The Christian and the Atheist

We are back for season 4, the final season. We talk about why this is our final season and what is to come. To wrap up the episode we talk about spicy books and what Aubrie thinks of them now that she no longer feels guilty for listening to them.

This episode contains a **Trigger Warning*** Miscarriages are mentioned. Amanda Gleason, a childhood friend of Aubrie's, shares her journey of faith in the face of tragedy. After experiencing multiple miscarriages, Amanda found herself angry with God and questioning His goodness. However, through her struggles, she was able to overcome her loss and regain her faith. Press play to listen to Amanda's story of how she found peace and restoration in her faith.

Aubrie starts feeling major cold feet about moving to Illinois so her and her husband decided tequila shots at the Trump Hotel was a good idea. You also hear about the update on how the move is going and we finish up with advocating for our fellow ADHD gang.

Ah, a fresh new Morning Show. This episode was recorded 2-3 weeks from the posting date. Kathleen, her husband, and her close friends went to a Chicago rave, we talk about Reesa Teesa and gossiping, what it means to be "born in the covenant" as a Mormon, and a little update on Aubrie's move. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/thechristianandathiest/support

We know tragedy can be triggering, if you need support don't hesitate to reach out to the following: Rainbow Youth Project: 988 or call (317) 643-4888 (crisis line) Trans Lifeline: 877-5658860 (Staffed by transgender folks, for transgender folks; toll-free) The Trevor Project Hotline: 866-488-7386 (Available 24/7, with councilors trained in supporting LGBTQ youth) Many of you have heard about the tragic loss of Nex Benedict. Our hearts go out to Nex's parents and all those who were close to them. We stand in solidarity with our LGBTQIA+ friends and family. If you or anyone you know is struggling, please don't hesitate to reach out or utilize the resources provided above. Your well-being matters, and we are here to support you. In today's episode, Aubrie poses a question to Kathleen about her decision not to attend church. We delve into Kathleen's perspective on what church means to her, explore recent events, and emphasize the importance of choosing love over hate regardless of one's religious beliefs. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/thechristianandathiest/support

You ever find out one of your so called friends did something that caused a domino effect of really crappy things? Welcome to the c&A Podcast Tea Party where Aubrie spills tea about this exact thing happening. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/thechristianandathiest/support

It's the first time we were able to get together this year to record. We catch y'all up on our lives, the short version and we talk about the new Barbie nomination's and lack thereof. We also bring up what it was like for Aubrie to run into church peeps, they are everywhere, and it makes for a good story. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/thechristianandathiest/support

Have you ever wanted to know more about the Jewish culture and what is Judaism? Aubrie and Kathleen sit down with Rabbi Jasper and have a very relaxed conversation about the similarities and differences of Christianity and Judaism. We get to touch on what Judaism says about LGBTQ+ and how they combat antisemitism. This is a great episode that we enjoyed getting to create for our listeners. We can't thank Rabbi Jasper and Temple Israel in Tulsa, Oklahoma enough for allowing us to record this episode and opening their doors for us to experience Sabath with them. This recording was recorded before the bombings of Israel that happened in late 2023. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/thechristianandathiest/support

We did just change our name and the hype was big but so is this! Lot's of changes coming --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/thechristianandathiest/support

We missed you guys!!! Welcome to 2024's first episode where we reflect a little bit on 2023, throw out a teaser of things to come, and we talk about our word for the year for the podcast and for ourselves. Enjoy! --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/thechristianandathiest/support

Is this the finale of the No Longer Fit to Serve series? That's what we are thinking at the moment. This episode explains the name change. c & A Podcast will always be The Christian and the Atheist Podcast but less capital C Christian and more little c Christian. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/thechristianandathiest/support

If you've never heard of Kevin Garcia, do you live under a rock? For those who don't know, allow us to introduce you to this amazing individual. Kevin Garcia, the author of 'Bad Theology Kills,' is set to release their second book, 'What Makes You Bloom,' on January 9th. We had the chance to sit down with Kevin and explore why they felt compelled to share this book with the world and what we, as their audience, can gain from it. This engaging conversation delves into their journey from evangelical pastor to mystic, revealing their spiritual practices and some fun life experiences. Get comfy and listen in! Also, visit Thekevingarcia.com to pre-order their upcoming book and schedule a coaching session with them soon! --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/thechristianandathiest/support

This episode is jam packed with so many things we couldn't put it all in the title. Kathleen's wild experience at a pizza place where everyone was high as a kite is one we laughed way too hard at. Aubrie has an interesting interaction at a Jehovah Witness funeral with some of the church goers as well as having a run in with some past church friends at a kid's birthday party. She also took her first non-evangelical communion. We also talk about the tough decision Aubrie and her husband had to make when they walked away from sponsoring kids in a Christian mission project. We end the episode with a blooper of Kathleen's rant on Tom Cruise. Never ever mention his name around her. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/thechristianandathiest/support

Our guest, Professor Kristina Lee, leads an open dialog on the marginalization of atheists in the US, along with discussing the term "theistnormativity" that she coined, and it's significance. Aubrie, who leans more spiritually/Christian found the conversation intriguing and Kathleen, as the atheist, had amazing questions. Want some awesome TC&TA merch? Click here and check out what we've got: emeraldexpressions.bigcartel.com Here are some of the links that Kristina wrote and sent us that caught our attention: https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?tab=rm&ogbl#search/Kristina.Lee%40usd.edu/FMfcgzGsltTqksfGgPnMNhHcFbKxCSWL?projector=1&messagePartId=0.2https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_k3iX1q4WvQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTjXZZ1MnRQ https://mail-attachment.googleusercontent.com/attachment/u/0/?ui=2&ik=4bad723f92&attid=0.1&permmsgid=msg-f:1762975865894611740&th=187759359a3c2b1c&view=att&disp=inline&saddbat=ANGjdJ89rjmG8R0hDz--sG1MV84TwBQ1Hcf5yYJHID7cECm1N2ByMgxCQkBnI2ltYQnmndmpQbXM3YpgCnrkvr464TrYMfc2OwYnTF_R8UVkVHDDRiaMM-riprwZjUlIeVH9JkKbDXabqJV4BZsvNX_g9IcyNxw1bzpgNWeYiPQsn-rOtQUNgjZ38bWu1-L3LmsC6M0QF6Jn3bn-mJIaW71RuzrZRk7FMQLvq3X0bw2UpU_aU1sb5xNKhd96jGmifIcHePFW42RBOQIOGcCyKLpZMydRU1P02ySz-yOPaOOf9d8QjRGW-q-i_VW_PvdMVxBWJJE5NUqOTvP8bYCOINb26WA2wskvIcdMkysLLHIM_XvD4cN5AwYVFf2NsgT05Oc7dJYgdHQtVD_OPxqisWys-eWNZnzE_K1yrIIn9h4eujIA-Ebw7V_y30ydYSvI9KvrnkVwcMk6Yh-ZmMInaiEP8IggIt1Rs8CWaB_jOxYTb4gsCobOwqzglXPkeUqjwp0g1wLXbl4dc-2kVYm4iqrydjUVG4o1wE0_Q4pBFdA_RXOW7GtPTiWcYs2xoYGexU_xfohwpjb0uKPZJsL7zLCclht9BsT9Lk47PzpUgLIvcqEhpntcdZvVwkLJqtse4YD19-8fVYjVpgXLBHxFX_WaXkVhUea0-r10z_Xr09HK10kCct1_N4t1UwMZErnTRqWT-6zMOrdwuTn4t3bnngkJdIW9Wko62eqPfhaibSg9qkGZCIYRMJyJ__Z0YlqjMKCqTWOyHkH685tuzXE9olz5lYl_g3xDcijb7zvq5JjG-OH9iBZyILkTEPVsSgj7yMj-AXj6J7aYoRUA1mNFpOf0rmrhFIIaJule98WnqBaf-LfcL2xdiCVzJxjQc5CAw207mqadNrFIziawIxjRZi1R9JCgiEot5L_C1PgEUd7IldlD_FxNYBNlcu5vXZWhEl5St4ItNOo7QRxvCeWGLVwtXG4dp-nAL-8mSnzukQhttps://theconversation.com/why-it-matters-that-7-states-still-have-bans-on-atheists-holding-office-161069https://theconversation.com/70-years-ago-walter-plywaski-fought-for-atheists-right-to-become-citizens-heres-why-his-story-is-worth-remembering-164758 --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/thechristianandathiest/support

This is more chatter with Kathleen and Aubrie. Kathleen is going on a trip to Arizona soon which is where she was when she and her husband decided to stop going to church. She talks about the significance of that place and the excitement of going back for a visit. Aubrie recently traveled via the airport and found herself in a pickle after missing her flight. There was public crying and second guessing her outfit. We also brought up now that we are no longer in our 20's and broke we are finally at a place where financially things aren't freaking rough. We laugh at the things we bought that made us feel like we had officially become adults. We look forward to hearing your thoughts on this weeks episode. We hope everyone had an awesome turkey day. Interested in purchasing merch? Click this link to see what we got: emeraldexpressions.bigcartel.com --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/thechristianandathiest/support

Another great episode from the Exploring God series covering Buddhism. We get the opportunity to sit down with Buddhist Priest, Tom, who breaks down Buddhism for us and we learned so much. We got to do this with video inside the temple, so we hope you enjoy watching and listening to this new episode. As always, thank you for listening and don't forget to grab some merch at the merch shop emeraldexpressions.bigcartel.com --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/thechristianandathiest/support

If that title didn't have you running to the play button, are you even human? We kick off with Kathleen's unexpected run-in with a certain someone from the bar, the same person who once assaulted her. If you haven't heard the full story, it's in our previous episode, "I got in a bar fight for being an Atheist." We also delve into the surprising turn of events in Kat Von D's life, as she embraces being a born-again Christian, we didn't see that coming. And don't miss out on the hilarious tale of Aubrie's almost-crotch tattoo—it's a story you won't forget. Plus a few other things. Thank you for listening, love yall! --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/thechristianandathiest/support

Get ready for a pulse-pounding podcast adventure as we explore the mysteries of All Souls church, accompanied by our very own skeptic, Kathleen. With our guest Shannon Boston at our side, we dive deep into the haunting history of the indigenous land guarded by Chief Tuckabache, who passed away in the 1910s. Kathleen's skepticism provides a counterpoint to the spine-tingling narrative as we venture into the unknown. Armed with an ouija board and dowsing rods, we attempt to summon the spirit of Chief Tuckabache or any other spectral presence willing to communicate. Tune in to witness the supernatural unfold and see if Kathleen's skepticism will survive this eerie encounter. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/thechristianandathiest/support

An update on the latest since Aubrie left Life.Church. Looks like things are going good. We hope you enjoy --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/thechristianandathiest/support

Welcome to the Season 3 premiere of our Morning Show! In this episode, we delve into a range of intriguing topics. We'll explore a new fear that's been unlocked, discuss a new finding about science whiz Mark Rober, and even touch on the complexities of human thought, including those of the lesbian variety...kinda. But the laughs don't stop there - find out how meditation gets a twist when Kathleen's humor takes center stage of Aubrie's brain (bad timing), and discover which one of us might be experiencing Ouija Board cold feet. Tune in for an episode filled with humor, curiosity, and lively conversation! --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/thechristianandathiest/support

Take a walk down memory lane with us as we talk about our top 5 favorite episodes and some not so favorite and possibly unhinged episodes. Here is a link to the ones we mentioned: Rebel Mormon with Alyssa Hulme: https://open.spotify.com/episode/7gk2Uo67nlw2OWwMETkZfe?si=ixwOsYsFRGazSwS1YnQGDg Staying Mormon with Daisy: https://open.spotify.com/episode/4lYswMv9nz09aYTuDXlW8g?si=lrpX58FWStat-Vn07UOy-g Book Club: Permission Granted with Dr Jennifer Bird: https://open.spotify.com/episode/1kQmHOEZKthuUkIaekf9nL?si=X9ZWyV4kQrKtgbN0WhKc4w Book Club: Unbelieve with Marla Taviono: https://open.spotify.com/episode/6mt9jvZGlSFSe0243Ddvsg?si=5aWNj_-jRBqdJurAnej4wQ Britney's episode talking about going on a Mormon Mission: https://open.spotify.com/episode/5WGD9FxAMsofIPanklPKKE?si=gUWw_zKwSCqGNYsRDhekPA Dating Nightmares: https://open.spotify.com/episode/32oLmweU13Zyevg5gzsclK?si=RLbRmMvRTDi7L1m-qZ-w9g Halloween episode 2021 Is There Anyone Out There: https://open.spotify.com/episode/4Cs3MHbdruqVrlPCCVk8xI?si=8Iew4Z82T72iMe9ZwAefAw Halloween episode 2022 Give Us a Sign: https://open.spotify.com/episode/3jmz2d5W9TDZzTKkdsMlAc?si=0S_fBp5lQEuApLsz4Q1Qgw Is This Guy For Real: https://open.spotify.com/episode/1Xg2mtSiMsgpcit0g05Omn?si=ZI_N24j6RnOr95LGQ2lz5A Aubrie's Journey with the Church: https://open.spotify.com/episode/4wvGdbRT7mU4CsMhzaAIJr?si=6YyMmzAvT6i_X5UItp3G3w --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/thechristianandathiest/support

Happy 2 years to us! We get to celebrate by doing a give away! Go to the comments on Facebook or Instagram and let us know you want "Christianity Made Me Talk Like An Idiot" by Seth Andrews and we will pick a winner next Wednesday. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/thechristianandathiest/support

This episode serves best if you are watching. If you are anything like Aubrie, she likes to know what she's getting herself into when walking into a new place. We had the idea to show you, our audience, what it looks like when you walk into All Souls Church. This is the main part of the church that you would see and experience if/when you attend on a Sunday. The church as a whole is WAY bigger. Thanks again to All Souls for allowing us to learn more about Unitarian Universalism and showing us their church. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/thechristianandathiest/support

We get the great honor to sit with Reverend Marlin Lavanhar of All Souls Unitarian Universalist (UU) Church in Tulsa, Oklahoma. This was a real treat because Aubrie and her family just became members this summer shortly after we recorded this episode. We can't wait for you to hear about what a UU is and find a new perspective on how to explore God the UU way. As always, thank you for listening and don't forget to grab some merch at the merch shop emeraldexpressions.bigcartel.com --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/thechristianandathiest/support

You heard us talk about these guys standing outside the Mormon temple with signs saying "sacredorsecret.com" when we visited the Mormon temple last episode. We got to interview one of the men named Eric Johnson. He is part of the Mormonism Research Ministry for over 30 years. They visit Mormon temples and pass out a new letter they publish stating why Mormonism and Christianity are different. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/thechristianandathiest/support

You know the drill, here is an update on the happenings of Aubrie after leaving Life.Church after being asked to step down from leadership. She talks about what her new church is like and the exciting new steps she's taken in being part of All Souls. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/thechristianandathiest/support

It's been almost a decade since Kathleen had been at the Mormon Temple. Get our hot take on what we thought about the new temple in Bentonville, Arkansas. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/thechristianandathiest/support

Y'all remember that crazy documentary on Netflix "Tiger King" with Joe Exotic? Yeah, talk about a wild addition to the year 2020 and then they came out with a freaking sequel a few years later. Well Kathleen tells us an intriguing story about the time she got to meet Joe Exotic and toured the zoo. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/thechristianandathiest/support

Kathleen and her husband went to the local watering hole in town and found themselves in company with someone who turned out to be a problematic human being. Listen to the craziest story about what happened and what they did about it. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/thechristianandathiest/support

Aubrie entertains new prospects in if continuing to be Christian is the way she wants to go. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/thechristianandathiest/support

By now you've heard what happened. This episode covers Aubrie's journal entries from 2 weeks after the situation to July 29th. You get to hear intimate details of how she is coping and what other big ties she had to cut to continue to move forward. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/thechristianandathiest/support

What is Aubrie looking for in a church? Does she even plan on being a part of a church? She tried out a new style of "church" that is Unitarian Universalist and here is her take on it. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/thechristianandathiest/support

You heard part one (if you haven't go listen to that one first) and now we have part two. This is the more detailed and more involved episode of what happened the day of the “dethroning” and the days following. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/thechristianandathiest/support

This is the softer version of the story. Aubrie was recently asked to step down from Life.Church leadership. Here is a reading of the post and what happened after the post dropped. The next episode will be part 2 which will be a lot more details of the situation. Do you think the pastor's were right in taking her off leadership? --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/thechristianandathiest/support

In this intimate podcast episode, join us for a heartfelt sit-down interview with Kathleen's 14-year-old daughter, Portia. As she shares her perspective, we explore her memories of growing up in the Mormon church and the impact of her parents' departure from the faith. Join us as we navigate the ups and downs of her journey as an atheist, shedding light on a unique perspective within a deeply religious community. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/thechristianandathiest/support

We can't even believe that this will be our final Morning Show recorded for season 2! In this episode we talk about the docu-series Shiny Happy People, our finale episode coming out next week, and what we have in store for next season. There is adult content in this episode...you're welcome. If you would like to purchase our merch head over to emeraldexpressions.bigcartel.com If you would like to email us topic ideas or anything you think we should talk on go to christianandatheistpodcast@gmail.com Thank you for being the best audience and enjoying the content we've been able to bring you. xoxo --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/thechristianandathiest/support

Happy Pride ya'll! To kick off Pride month, we sat down with some very special guests, John and Janelle Wyatt, of Tiktok fame! We discuss John's exit from Mormonism, how they handled their son's coming out and their road to becoming allies, and the viral Tiktok video that took the world by storm! To check out John's Tiktok, visit https://www.tiktok.com/@wyattearptulsa2 --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/thechristianandathiest/support

Join us in this corky episode as we dive into the latest hit from Post Malone, "Chemical," and wonder if he smells bad or smells good. We also bring up the gripping narrative of the Netflix show "Sins of the Mother" that is based on a Mormon woman who does some sketchy sh*t in the name of Jesus. Brace yourself for a wild ride as we share jaw-dropping texts about Kathleen and finally we and delve into the captivating story behind the first Mormon temple. Get ready to be entertained, informed, and inspired in this episode that covers music, television, personal stories, and historical intrigue. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/thechristianandathiest/support

Welcome to another amazing episode! We sat down with the wonderful Hillary, who is not only a fan of the show, but also has an amazing story! We talked about her Southern Baptist upbringing, her deconstruction journey, and her views on life and spirituality now. Thanks so much Hillary for taking the time to share her story with us, and thanks to you all for listing! --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/thechristianandathiest/support

Who doesn't love the idea of taking over the world if it wasn't frowned upon? We have a fun episode of discussion about how being tested by God and being tempted by Satan are two different things...or are they? Kathleen used to suffer from vivid nightmares and we talk about if we think it's from the fear organized religion brought on or something else. We conclude with the Mormon topic of receiving a new name during the endowment ceremony and what that means. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/thechristianandathiest/support

Today's guest, Ms. Heauxly (pronounced holy), from the Heauxly Coitus Podcast does not hold back on what it is to be living out her "hoe" phase and we aren't mad. We get the honor of hearing her story of growing up evangelical, staying a virgin until 32, leaving religion, and living out her "hoe" phase. She talks about negative impacts of purity culture, navigating a multi-partner sex life, creating boundaries with partners, talking in tongues while doing the deed, and micro "eggplants". That's just a portion of what this episode encompasses. We are pretty confident that even if you don't choose the lifestyle for yourself that you will enjoy this all-in girl talk. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/thechristianandathiest/support

Another hot Mormon topic we didn't know we needed to know. Kathleen gives us a great explanation of why it is important to Mormons to baptize their ancestors and loved ones who have died. We go into detail of who does the baptisms, where it's done, and how it is done. This is a short and sweet episode so sit back and enjoy. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/thechristianandathiest/support

Who likes a fun time talking about sex with the girls? This is just that with sex coach, Lauren Samantha, of OhYeahCoaching. We cover topics like teaching our kids about their bodies and age appropriate education on sex and bodies, what sex coaching is, why it's important, who it benefits, and what to expect during a coaching session. This episode is not intended for children. Resources from Lauren: Laurens instagram: Lauren | Sexual Emperment Coach | (@ohyeahcoaching) | Instagram Lauren's website: Oh Yeah Coaching links to parental resources on age appropriate information: Sex Education Resources For Parents & Kids - Birds & Bees & Kids (birdsandbeesandkids.com) Sexuality: What children should learn and when (aboutkidshealth.ca) Book: ⁠Come As You Are: Revised and Updated: The Surprising New Science That Will Transform Your Sex Life: Nagoski, Emily: 9781982165314: Amazon.com: Books⁠ --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/thechristianandathiest/support

This is a fun one, everyone! We sat down with Reverand Sarah Thornhill, a United Methodist pastor, and it was a blast! Fun fact: we actually first met Sarah at a Pride festival, so that gives you an idea of the kind of pastor she is! We discuss her religious journey, her affirming attitude, and some of the reactions she's received as a progressive female pastor in the Bible belt. You don't want to miss it! --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/thechristianandathiest/support

Bless it, we have yet another interesting Mormon topic. IDK if all our listeners are like Aubrie where every time we come together to learn something new we have a moment of "wtf" or what but this one is less intense but for sure a "wtf" moment. Temple Marriages and Sealing Ceremonies are described by Kathleen as the desert course: sweet, in theory. We do talk for 17 minutes about current events in our lives so if you are sensitive to our Mormon topics section of our show do know that we have some good stuff before and if you don't feel comfortable listening to the rest you can turn it off. We mean no disrespect to those who practice Mormonism unless, you're a jerkface. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/thechristianandathiest/support

Welcome back to Book Club! This week, we sat down with Marla Taviano again, to talk about her newest book, Jaded! If you liked Unbelieve, then you'll love Jaded, the second book in Marla's series of poems about her life, faith, and deconstruction process. She delves deeper into her feelings about Christianity, racism, ableism, and even abortion! You don't want to miss it! Follow Marla on Instagram @marlataviano and visit https://www.lakedrivebooks.com/ to learn how to purchase Marla's books! --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/thechristianandathiest/support

Ever wonder what goes on at the temple? There is a thing called an Endowment Ceremony that Kathleen walks us through the different concepts of what that means. Before we dive into that fun we hear from Aubrie about the women's conference she attended and how that went. Kathleen had some feelings about how that works and we ended up putting a whole 10 minutes of that at the end of the episode for those of you that want to hear it. It's a literal riot, we talk about Stacy Eldridge's Captivating Core retreat, being romanced by God, and going on a date with God. The whole time Kathleen is expressing her feelings about it, and we found ourselves laughing way too hard. Enjoy --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/thechristianandathiest/support

Seth freaking Andrews! We get the honor talk with Seth about the title of his latest book, Christianity Made Me Talk Like an Idiot, as well as how hesitant Aubrie was to have him on the show. There was a rough first impression/conflict between Aubrie and Seth. Hear how it went down and how Seth reacts. We want to thank Seth Andrews for taking time to come to our studio and spend time with us to create this really wonderful episode. Seth Andrews is a former evangelical and Christian broadcaster who now hosts The Thinking Atheist…one of the most popular podcasts and online atheist communities in the world. The Thinking Atheist is not a person. It is an icon encouraging all to reject faith and pursue reason and evidence. Seth has authored five books, including his latest offering, “Christianity Made Me Talk Like an Idiot.” He also hosts a second podcast, "True Stories with Seth Andrews." With a mix of humor and heart, Seth Andrews has spoken for audiences large and small in the U.S, Canada, Europe, and Australia about his former faith, the promotion of science and skepticism, the importance of Humanism in this often crazy world, and why we should all pursue a personal relationship with reality. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/thechristianandathiest/support

Ok, you know when you hear about something and the person who is telling it is trustworthy and wouldn't lie about what they are talking about but the thing they are talking about is so wacky you have to pull in another source who knows just as much about it to confirm the insanity you just heard? That is what this episode is! Kathleen's husband sits in the room with us to help give insight to the topic of Mormon tithing and the breaking headline. You don't get to hear his voice but he's like an advisor throughout the episode. It's super interesting for those of us that don't know much about Mormonism to hear how the LDS do tithing and how they have handled the tithing. We hope you find today's episode informative. If you are part of the LDS and find yourself defensive when people talk against the Mormon Church then we encourage you to listen but if that's too much for you feel free to check out our other episodes. We mean well and don't want to cause harsh feelings to be stirred up. Next week we will be posting another Book Club with the words largest Atheist Podcast host, Seth Andrews. He was an absolute joy to have on the show and we are so excited to finally drop the episode. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/thechristianandathiest/support

Welcome to the second episode in our Book Club series! A few months ago, we sat down with Marla Taviano, the author of a wonderful book of poetry called Unbelieve. We learn about her upbringing as an evangelical Christian, her deconversion process, and what she believes now, all through the lense of a series of incredibly touching and sometimes hilarious poems.  Marla Taviano is into books, love, justice, globes, anti-racism, blue, gray, rainbows, and poems. She reads and writes for a living, wears her heart on her t-shirts, and is on a mission/quest/journey to live wholefarted (not a typo). She's the author of unbelieve: poems on the journey to becoming a heretic and jaded: a poetic reckoning with white evangelical christian indoctrination, and lives in South Carolina with her four freaking awesome kids. Find out more at marlataviano.com. To purchase Unbelieve, along with the next book in Marla's series, visit her on Amazon at https://www.amazon.com/stores/Marla-Taviano/author/B001IQX7OG?ref=ap_rdr&store_ref=ap_rdr&isDramIntegrated=true&shoppingPortalEnabled=true --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/thechristianandathiest/support

This episode, as Kathleen points out, is a little unhinged. We start with how fun it was to find out Rihanna is pregnant via the halftime show. Then, Aubrie brings up a topic that is giving her anxiety and she wonders if Kathleen ever finds herself feeling similar or if she deals with things differently. Finally, we go into the rabbit hole of how Mormons view afterlife. It's full of information and opinions from an ex-Mormon so if you find yourself particularly sensitive to hearing potentially negative things pointed towards the Mormon belief system then we advise you to skip the topic. We will be going into Book Club: Unbelieve by Marla Taviono so if you want to read the book of poems in preparation of next week's episode you can find it on Amazon or you can get a signed copy from Marla herself, just look her up on Facebook and shoot her a message. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/thechristianandathiest/support