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In this episode, Tim sits down with Jason Tolleson (Senior Director of Government Affairs, HPBA) to break down the latest developments in federal regulations and legislative battles affecting the industry. From surprise meetings with EPA Administrator Zeldin to the evolving timeline for new NSPS regulations, Jason reveals how small moments of advocacy can create massive opportunities for the entire industry. In this episode, Tim and Jason cover: • The narrowing target list for the National Fuel Choice Bill and why retailers should prepare for urgent calls to action • Why the current five-year certificate renewal system might be an unnecessary burden as EPA faces budget cuts and staff reductions • How a chance encounter at a New York event led to a direct conversation with the EPA Administrator—and encouragement for upcoming NSPS negotiations Don't miss Jason's reminder that every conversation matters in government affairs—from airport encounters with senators to collaborative meetings that exceed all expectations, the hearth industry's future depends on showing up and using our collective voice. —— Links from this episode: HPBA Codes & Standards Update Webinar - Thursday, May 28 | 12 PM ET —— This episode is a production of The Hearth, Patio & Barbecue Association and The Fire Time Network. You can learn more about the HPBA—and get involved—by visiting https://www.hpba.org Get free access to The Fire Time Magazine every month by going to https://www.itsfiretime.com/subscribe

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The Government Affairs Update Podcast - Where we unpack what's going on in our industry from a retailer's perspective. In this episode, Tim recaps the month with Jason Tolleson (Senior Director of Government Affairs, HPBA) to dive into the busiest season for hearth industry advocacy. From state legislatures in full swing to federal agencies working against tight deadlines, this conversation reveals the high-stakes policy battles shaping the industry's future. In this episode, Tim and Jason cover: • How the new Government Affairs Leadership Academy class will hit Capitol Hill in June for real-world advocacy experience—armed with homework on the Energy Choice Act committee report • Why EPA's New Source Performance Standards deadline of December 2027 means manufacturers and retailers need to pay attention now, not later • The messy reality of tariff refunds and why finding out who actually paid duties could determine whether your business gets money back Don't miss Jason's insights on building relationships with newly appointed EPA officials and how the industry's past regulatory experiences are informing today's strategic conversations—plus details on the upcoming retailer policy update that could impact your business directly. --- This episode is a production of The Hearth, Patio & Barbecue Association and The Fire Time Network. You can learn more about the HPBA—and get involved—by visiting https://www.hpba.org Get free access to The Fire Time Magazine every month by going to https://www.itsfiretime.com/subscribe

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The Government Affairs Update Podcast - Where we unpack what's going on in our industry from a retailer's perspective. Tim and Jason Tolleson from HPBA sit down to recap the month. In this episode, Tim and Jason cover the overturn of tariffs and the impact on the industry, the status of the fuel choice bill going to the floor in the House of Representatives, plus work that members and affiliates are doing to advocate for the industry at the local level. Tim and Jason discuss: The Supreme Court decision regarding striking town tariffs made under IEEPA and the implications of additional tariffs under other provisions. The national fuel choice bill moving from the report by the House Energy and Commerce Committee to the House Rules Committee - expect a full call to action from the HPBA when the bill reaches the floor. The Home Appliance Protection Affordability Act and Homeowner Energy Freedom Act passing the House and moving to the Senate. Lobby days with Midwest HPBA, Pacific HPBA in Sacramento, and Northeast HPBA in Boston. The HPBA Expo in New Orleans, the first meeting of the 2026-27 Class of the Government Affairs Leadership Academy, and a session for retailers, reps, & distributers taught by Jason himself, about how policy decisions impact your showroom floor. --- This episode is a production of The Hearth, Patio & Barbecue Association and The Fire Time Network. You can learn more about the HPBA—and get involved—by visiting https://www.hpba.org Get free access to The Fire Time Magazine every month by going to https://www.itsfiretime.com/subscribe

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The Government Affairs Update Podcast - Where we unpack what's going on in our industry from a retailer's perspective. Tim and Jason Tolleson from the HPBA are joined by Karen Arpino, Executive Director of the NEHPBA, CNHPBA, and SCHPBA to talk about recent grassroots efforts that are making an impact with legislators in her areas. Jason also provides an update on the national fuel choice bill. In this episode, Tim, Jason, and Karen discuss: "The President's Perspective" article from the January 2026 episode of the Fire Time Magazine and how Karen is rallying dealers to advocate for the industry. Recent HEHPBA events for legislators and what affiliates can learn from these example in order to rally people together from across the industry to serve a common goal. Jason's "Government Affairs Lite" event to equip attendees with the tools to talk to legislators and provide a compressed training based on the year-long Government Affairs Leadership Academy. The value of testimony, initiative, and human connection when championing your cause, regardless of other's committee or political affiliation. The national fuel choice bill as it sits between the House Energy and Commerce Committee and the full House, including hurdles to overcome in the Senate. --- This episode is a production of The Hearth, Patio & Barbecue Association and The Fire Time Network. You can learn more about the HPBA—and get involved—by visiting https://www.hpba.org Get free access to The Fire Time Magazine every month by going to https://www.itsfiretime.com/subscribe

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The Government Affairs Update Podcast - Where we unpack what's going on in our industry from a retailer's perspective. Tim and Jason Tolleson from the HPBA kick off 2026! They check in on the status of the national fuel choice bill and discuss the legislative process, dive into HBPA call-to-action preparation, and chat about the upcoming Jan 9th application deadline for the Government Affairs Leadership Academy. In this episode, Tim and Jason discuss: The status of the National Fuel Choice Bill on its way towards the House bill floor with 140 cosponsors and other state-level fuel choice bills to have on your radar. Being prepared for a HBPA call-to-action for retailers, distributers, and manufacturers to send an email or make a phone call to advocate for the industry. Applications for the Government Affairs Leadership Academy 2026-2027 are open with a hybrid program and kick-off session on Wednesday March 18 at the 2026 HPBA Expo. From gaining tools and information to understanding and engaging in the legislative process, check out the Government Affairs Leadership Academy: https://hpba.org/government-affairs-leadership-academy/ --- This episode is a production of The Hearth, Patio & Barbecue Association and The Fire Time Network. You can learn more about the HPBA—and get involved—by visiting https://www.hpba.org Get free access to The Fire Time Magazine every month by going to https://www.itsfiretime.com/subscribe

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The Government Affairs Update Podcast - Where we unpack what's going on in our industry from a retailer's perspective. Tim and Jason Tolleson from the HPBA sit down to recap the month and finish out the year. They cover the status of the national fuel choice bill as it moves though the House of Representatives, the latest status of tariffs, the conclusion of the biomass tax credit, and the upcoming class for the Government Affairs Leadership Academy. In this episode, Tim and Jason discuss: Updates since the government opening after a shutdown. The status of the Fuel Choice Bill and exploring the process forward with its current 125 cosponsors, and approval by the House Subcommittee on Energy. The Supreme Court hearing arguments on November 5th regarding tariffs from the government and opposing positions. The end of the biomass tax credit, the current demand for wood and pellet products, and how it is impacting manufacturers. Applications for the Government Affairs Leadership Academy 2026-2027 are open with a hybrid program and kick-off session on Wednesday March 18 at the 2026 HPBA Expo. --- This episode is a production of The Hearth, Patio & Barbecue Association and The Fire Time Network. You can learn more about the HPBA—and get involved—by visiting https://www.hpba.org Get free access to The Fire Time Magazine every month by going to https://www.itsfiretime.com/subscribe

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