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The Ohio State Buckeyes just added a new quarterback to their 2025 roster, bringing former Houston Christian QB Eli Brickhandler to Columbus. Brickhandler has previous starting experience, so what kind of impact could he have on this year's Buckeye football team as he joins Lincoln Kienholz, Julian Sayin, and Tavien St. Clair in the OSU quarterback room?Tony Gerdeman of BuckeyeHuddle.com joins host Tom Orr to discuss that and more on this episode of the Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning podcast.
On the latest edition of Buckeye Banter, Seth Shaner is joined by former all-Big Ten point guard Jamar Butler.The two talk about Butler being a bridge from being recruited by Jim O'Brien to playing for Thad Matta, and also the 2006 Big Ten title team to the 2007 NCAA runner up team.Check out BuckeyeHuddle.com to get all of the best Ohio State Buckeyes coverage.Our team of contributors will have you up-to-the-minute with recruiting, team coverage and so much more.Join the fastest growing community in all of BuckeyeNation at BuckeyeHuddle.com Join Now: https://buckeyehuddle.com/community/a...**Please Support our Great Sponsors**Grateful Griddle Food Truck and Catering - https://gratefulgriddleoh.com/Jeff Ruby's Columbus Steakhouse - https://www.jeffruby.com/columbus
When you talk about Ohio State recruiting coverage, you have to talk about the Southern Swing, the big annual trip across the south that Marc Givler and Kevin Noon of BuckeyeHuddle.com make every year. The fellas just returned home after this year's trip, which spanned more than 5,000 miles and included interviews with some of the nation's absolute best high school football players. Kevin joins host Tom Orr to discuss some of his biggest takeaways from the trip, including which player on each side of the ball was most impressive, which is most likely to end up playing his college football for the Buckeyes, the most impressive player away from the field, and much more. You'll hear about 5-star OT Felix Ojo, 5-star LB Tyler Atkinson, 4-star DE PJ Dean, and many more.
The Sunshine State of Florida has provided Ohio State with some of its most talented football players for decades, and there are no signs that trend is slowing down. Marc Givler and Kevin Noon of BuckeyeHuddle.com are in the middle of their Southern Swing trip to see some of the nation's top high school football prospects. In this special bonus episode, they check in with some of their biggest takeaways from their time in Florida.
Early Signing Day for the 2026 recruiting class is less than seven months away, and right now Ohio State does not seem to be particularly close to landing a commitment from a quarterback. What's taking so long, and is this a cause for concern?Andrew Ellis of BuckeyeHuddle.com joins host Tom Orr to break down the Buckeyes' chase for a quarterback, including a look at some other years where the quarterback position got filled late, whether any high-profile commits at other schools could be targets for a potential flip, if any in-state prospects might earn offers, and more.
The Big Ten is part of some of the biggest nonconference games on the 2025 college football schedule, including one that opens the season in Columbus. In this episode of the Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning podcast, Tony Gerdeman of BuckeyeHuddle.com joins host Tom Orr to discuss the five biggest nonconference games involving Big Ten teams, along with one where a top team from the conference could be on upset alert against an FCS opponent. Texas at Ohio StateMichigan at OklahomaIowa at Iowa StateWisconsin at AlabamaUSC at Notre DamePlus, why the Oregon Ducks could have a tougher test than expected when FCS Montana State comes to Autzen Stadium.
Tim Walton just keeps rolling on the recruiting trail, landing a commitment from 4-star cornerback Jordan Thomas from New Jersey powerhouse Bergen Catholic. In this special bonus episode, Marc Givler and Kevin Noon break down the impact of the commitment on the Skull Session Recruiting Podcast.
The battle for the starting quarterback job for the 2025 Ohio State football team is going to drag on into fall camp, after things were too close to call between Julian Sayin and Lincoln Kienholz coming out of spring ball. So how will that ongoing battle impact the team? Tony Gerdeman of BuckeyeHuddle.com joins host Tom Orr to discuss three ways that uncertainty could change things, and one way it likely won't.
The Ohio State Buckeyes face a challenging schedule this fall as they attempt to defend their 2024 national championship. That schedule starts with a top-5 showdown with Texas, in a rematch of last year's College Football Playoff semifinal in the Cotton Bowl, a matchup with likely Big Ten favorite Penn State in the Horseshoe, and four challenging conference road games, including the regular season finale against archrival Michigan. So which of those games are the biggest? Tony Gerdeman of BuckeyeHuddle.com joins host Tom Orr to debate that in this episode of the Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning podcast.
Ohio State has pulled a number of elite defensive players out of the state of Georgia over the years, including defensive lineman Cameron Heyward, linebacker Raekwon McMillan, cornerback Jordan Hancock, and safety Vonn Bell. Now, the Buckeyes could be on the verge of landing another elite talent from the state, 5-star linebacker Tyler Atkinson. In this special bonus episode of the Skull Session Recruiting Podcast, Marc Givler and Kevin Noon of BuckeyeHuddle.com discuss that and several other key takeaways from their time in Georgia on this year's edition of the Southern Swing recruiting trip.
On this episode of Buckeye Banter, Seth Shaner sits down with former Ohio State wide receiver Dane Sanzenbacher to talk about his life in football and his time at Ohio State.How did he earn his scholarship offer to play for Jim Tressel? What was it like to catch the Buckeyes' first touchdown pass of the 2007 season?If you enjoy this special bonus episode, make sure to subscribe to the Buckeye Banter podcast wherever you get Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning.
With spring football and the spring portal window now (mostly) in the rear-view mirror, there is plenty of time for fans across the nation to start to worry about where their teams might have question marks heading into the 2025 college football season. So what are the biggest questions that have Ohio State fans nervous at the moment?Andrew Ellis of BuckeyeHuddle.com joins host Tom Orr to discuss that, plus the latest developments in the Connor Stalions sign stealing scandal, including an unusual suspension that was just handed down to Michigan head coach Sherrone Moore.
Brian Hartline has done it again. The Buckeyes have landed super Mater Dei (CA) wide receiver Kayden Dixon-Wyatt. Marc Givler and Kevin Noon breakdown what it means for the Buckeyes.
Ohio State head coach Ryan Day met with the media this week to discuss the spring transfer portal window, how former Buckeyes ended up in the NFL Draft, the latest on the battle for the starting quarterback job, and more. In this special extended episode of the Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning podcast, you'll hear Day discuss that and much more. BuckeyeHuddle.com just added some 5-star talent on Thursday, with Jeremy Birmingham joining the staff as the Director of Recruiting, and Andrew Ellis and Justin Whitlatch joining the team as well. Want access to the best insider content in Ohio State media? Join Now: https://buckeyehuddle.com/community/account/upgrades/
In this special bonus episode of the Skull Session Recruiting Podcast, after a stop in the Richmond, Virginia area, Marc Givler and Kevin Noon break down their first day on Southern Swing 2025.
Ohio State spring practice ended two weeks ago, but there was new information on Tuesday about the race for the Buckeyes' starting quarterback job. Tony Gerdeman of BuckeyeHuddle.com joins host Tom Orr to discuss what they learned from OSU head coach Ryan Day during a press conference. The coach provided far more detail on the race for the starting position, and how it played out during spring ball. Plus, updates on Ohio State's biggest transfer portal addition, and more.
An annual tradition in Ohio State recruiting coverage is about to kick off all across the southern half of the United States. Marc Givler and Kevin Noon of BuckeyeHuddle.com are about to start their annual Southern Swing trip to see some of Ohio State's top recruiting targets for 2026, 2027, 2028, and beyond in person. In previous years, they've met with players like Jeremiah Smith, Nick Bosa, Jeff Okudah, Devin Sanchez, Baron Browning, and others. Kevin joins host Tom Orr to preview this year's trip and what you can expect over the next few weeks.
So far, things are going pretty well in 2025 for Ohio State head football coach Ryan Day and his program. Of course, the Buckeyes won the national championship in January, and now with spring football over and the spring transfer portal window closed, Day is celebrating some more good news. Tony Gerdeman of BuckeyeHuddle.com joins host Tom Orr to discuss that, as well as the two additions Ohio State has already made in the spring portal.
Welcome to Buckeyes Tomorrow Morning for Friday, April 25th with your hosts Tony Gerdeman and Kevin Noon. The show kicks off with a countdown to the Texas and Michigan games before diving into a preview of the first round of the NFL draft happening tonight. Tony and Kevin discuss potential first-round picks from the Ohio State Buckeyes, including Emeka Egbuka, Josh Simmons, and TreVeyon Henderson. They also share their personal NFL team favorites and their pick desires. The conversation then shifts to predicting potential first-rounders for 2026, analyzing players like Caleb Downs, Carnell Tate, and Sonny Styles. Don't forget to like, subscribe, and join the discussion on BuckeyeHuddle.com's message board presented by Jeff Ruby's Columbus. 00:00 Introduction and Upcoming Events00:31 NFL Draft Preview01:04 Team-Specific Draft Needs03:49 Potential First Round Picks07:51 Future Draft Prospects20:12 Conclusion and Viewer Engagement
Exploring College Football's Disputed National Champions with Mark RogersWelcome to Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning! In this episode, host Tony Gerdeman dives into a conversation with special guest Mark Rogers from youtube.com/MarkRogersTV. They discuss Mark's new book 'Disputed National Champions: College Football's Historical 1990s Reset,' exploring the controversies and debates surrounding the national champions of the 1990s. They touch on the unique nature of college football rankings, the significance of the 1990s in football history, and how modern playoff systems might have altered past outcomes. Mark shares insights into seasons like 1996, 1997, and Ohio State's near-misses, offering fans a fascinating look into what could have been. Tune in for an engaging discussion filled with college football history, controversies, and what-ifs!00:00 Introduction and Upcoming Events00:31 Special Guest: Mark Rogers01:05 Disputed National Champions: The Book02:11 1990s College Football: A Decade of Change05:29 Ohio State's Near Misses in the 90s13:17 Hypothetical Playoffs and What-If Scenarios17:59 Conclusion and Where to Find the Book
In this episode of Buckeyes Tomorrow Morning, host Tony Gerdeman discusses Ohio State's latest moves in the transfer portal, focusing on the defensive line and offensive line needs. Featuring insights from Buckeye Huddle's Marc Givler, they cover key names like David Stone, Beau Atkinson, Maraad Watson, and more. They also analyze the challenges Ohio State faces with NIL deals and competition from other schools. Tune in to get the latest updates on Buckeye recruiting and potential new additions! (Note: This episode was recorded immediately before Maraad Watson committed to Texas.)00:00 Introduction and Upcoming Games 00:31 Transfer Portal Overview 00:51 David Stone's Brief Portal Entry 02:40 Beau Atkinson's Potential Move 05:24 Defensive Tackle Concerns 12:42 Offensive Line Prospects 19:31 Spring Transfer Portal Dynamics 23:58 Conclusion and Sign-Off
In this bonus episode of Buckeyes Tomorrow Morning, we check in with Kevin Noon of the Big Me Kickoff show to get the latest on the upcoming NFL Draft. More than a dozen players are ready to hear their names called, but there still seems to be a lot of disagreement on when that will take place for the former Ohio State players. He takes a look at what some of the mock drafts are saying and makes his own picks.
Last week, on the night before Ohio State's visit to the White House, Kevin Noon and Tom Orr from BuckeyeHuddle.com were guests at a special event held by the Washington, DC chapter of the Ohio State Alumni Association.The event was nearly two hours of stories from the national championship season, about what it's like to cover the team, as well as a lengthy Q&A section. This is a recording of the first hour or so of that event, focused mainly on the stories from the season.
The Ohio State Buckeyes have lost two players to the Transfer Portal since it opened up on Wednesday. What kind of impact could that have on this fall's team?Tony Gerdeman of Buckeye Huddle.com joins host Tom Orr to discuss that, plus a look at some of the new rule changes coming to college football this fall, including one that could have made a big difference in one of Ohio State's biggest games in 2024.
Brian Hartline just added another wide receiver to the Buckeyes' 2026 recruiting class with the flip of former TCU commit Brock Boyd. Marc Givler and Kevin Noon of BuckeyeHuddle.com break it all down in this special bonus presentation of the Skull Session Recruiting Podcast.
This is a special bonus episode of the Around The Big Ten podcast with Marc Givler and Chip Minnich, another great show on the Buckeye Huddle podcast network.On this episode, the guys give their thoughts on Minnesota star safety Koi Perich also playing offense as well as the Ohio State spring game.If you enjoy this, you can subscribe to the Around The Big Ten podcast wherever you find Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning.
The 2024 college football national champion Ohio State Buckeyes were honored Monday afternoon at the White House. The ceremony was just part of a busy day for the team in Washington, DC, including a stop at the Lincoln Memorial and a private dinner with the Vice President for some members of the team. Kevin Noon of BuckeyeHuddle.com was at the Lincoln Memorial and the White House with the Buckeyes. He joins host Tom Orr to discuss the biggest moments of the day, as well as what it's like to be behind the scenes at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.
The Ohio State Buckeyes will make the traditional championship visit to the White House on Monday to be honored for their run to a title through the first-ever 14-team College Football Playoff. What else will they do while they're in Washington, DC, and what can you expect from the ceremony honoring Ryan Day and his team? Kevin Noon of BuckeyeHuddle.com is a veteran of these White House trips, having covered the one 10 years ago following the 2014 national championship season. He joins host Tom Orr to discuss that and more on this episode of the Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning podcast.
The Ohio State Buckeyes wrapped up their spring football schedule on Saturday with the annual spring game inside Ohio Stadium.There was a lot for Ohio State fans to like, including an impressive performance by the the Buckeye passing game, but are there other areas for concern?Kevin Noon of BuckeyeHuddle.com joins host Tom Orr to discuss that and break down what they learned during this episode of the Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning podcast.
The Ohio State Buckeyes will wrap up their spring football season on Saturday with the annual Spring Game, but there has already been a lot to talk about this spring, as the Buckeyes look to replace more than a dozen key starters from the national championship team.. Tony Gerdeman and Tom Orr of BuckeyeHuddle.com got to watch all of Ohio State's practice on Friday, and have a lot to talk about, including:How the race for the starting quarterback position between Lincoln Kienholz, Julian Sayin, and Tavien St. Clair may have taken a turnThe freshman running back who was impressive againThe young wide receiver who could be on the verge of a breakoutWhat the offensive line could look like for the Texas gameThe defensive backs who are quietly - and loudly having very good springsAnd much more
The Ohio State Buckeyes have just two practices left this spring, and the team from BuckeyeHuddle.com will be there for both of them.First is Friday morning inside Ohio Stadium, and then the annual Spring Game will kick off Saturday, also inside the Horseshoe. So what is new Ohio State defensive coordinator Matt Patricia going to be watching for on Saturday? In this episode of the Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning podcast, you'll hear directly from Patricia about that and much more including: How much he's already planning to do with Caleb Downs this seasonHow the battle for the starting safety spot opposite Downs is goingWhat the ideal base defense for this year's team might beAnd much more
On this edition of Buckeye Banter, Seth Shaner sits down with former Ohio State All-American offensive lineman Jeff Uhlenhake.Jeff brings a lot to the table, including playing for both Earle Bruce and John Cooper - and taking credit for the idea to wear the "EARLE" headbands!He also played with Dan Marino, had a role in the Jim Carrey film Ace Ventura: Pet Detective, worked for Jim Tressel and Mark Dantonio, and was an assistant strength coach under Urban Meyer!
In his first season with Ohio State, Jeremiah Smith completely rewrote the Buckeyes' freshman record book and led OSU to a national championship. So what can he possibly do for an encore this fall?In this episode of the Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning podcast, Tony Gerdeman of BuckeyeHuddle.com joins host Tom Orr to discuss that and much more following Ohio State's 12th practice of the spring. Which receiver other than Smith is not getting talked about enough? Who are the best trash-talkers on the team? And much more.
Quincy Porter became the first true freshman to lose his black stripe this season, following an impressive performance in front of the media and thousands of fans at the Student Appreciation Practice on Saturday. So what did Porter do to earn that honor? Ohio State head coach Ryan Day discussed that and much more on Monday following practice. In this episode of the Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning podcast, you'll hear from Day about that and much more including:The latest on the race for the starting quarterback job between Julian Sayin and Lincoln KienholzHow Jeremiah Smith could take another step forward this yearHow Payton Pierce is making a push for a bigger role at linebacker this fallWhether Austin Siereveld could be the answer to the open job at right tackleIs the depth at defensive tackle still a big concern?And much more
The Ohio State men's basketball team saw its 2024-25 season come to a disappointing end with two straight losses, and a 2-5 record in their final seven games to narrowly miss the NCAA Tournament. Now, Jake Diebler is working to not only keep the core of his team together, with Bruce Thornton, John Mobley, and Devin Royal all planning to return, and Christoph Tilly and Gabe Cupps added in the Transfer Portal, what else do the Buckeyes need to do in order to get back to the Big Dance next season?Tony Gerdeman of BuckeyeHuddle.com joins host Tom Orr to discuss that and more on this episode of the Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning podcast.
The 2025 Ohio State Spring Game is now less than a week away, and a handful of young Buckeyes are starting to make a big impression during practice. Tony Gerdeman of BuckeyeHuddle.com joins host Tom Orr to discuss four true freshmen who really stood out during the Student Appreciation Practice inside the Woody Hayes Athletic Center on Saturday, including QB Tavien St. Clair, RB Bo Jackson, WR Quincy Porter, CB Devin Sanchez, and more.
The Ohio State offensive line will have a new look this year, with both five players with starting experience no longer with the team, a pair of talented transfers now on the roster, as well as a group of promising freshmen, plus an entirely new coaching staff.In this episode of the Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning podcast, you'll hear from one of those transfers, former Rice tackle Ethan Onianwa, and one of those talented freshmen, left tackle Carter Lowe.
For the second time this week, the Ohio State Buckeyes added a top talent to their 2026 recruiting class on the defensive side of the ball. This time it's Simeon Caldwell, and while his position at the college level might be an open question, his talent is not. Kevin Noon of BuckeyeHuddle.com joins host Tom Orr to break down the impact of Caldwell's commitment.
Ohio State fans are still celebrating the Buckeyes' 2024 national championship season, but the team itself has moved on and is turning the page to 2025. In fact, some of the signage celebrating that title has already come down inside the walls of the Woody Hayes Athletic Center. So why did one Buckeye star ask for that to happen?In this episode of the Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning podcast, you'll hear the answer to that and much more directly from junior safety Caleb Downs. He discusses why he's taking it slow this spring, taking on a bigger role as a team leader, and more. Plus, hear from freshman CB Devin Sanchez, who arrived in Columbus with big expectations, and who is working to earn a role on the field this fall.
The Ohio State Buckeyes are replacing a lot of talent on their defense in 2025, and the cornerback room is no exception. Denzel Burke and Jordan Hancock are gone, Davison Igbinosun, Jermaine Mathews, and Lorenzo Styles, Jr. are back, and a talented group of young corners like Aaron Scott, Bryce West, Devin Sanchez, and Miles Lockhart are working to win bigger roles this spring.Sanchez has been a big topic this spring, as he pushes to earn an early role in a crowded and talented position group. In this episode of the Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning podcast, Tony Gerdeman of BuckeyeHuddle.com joins host Tom Orr to discuss Sanchez and the rest of the Buckeyes in the secondary as OSU moves into the penultimate week of spring football.
The Buckeyes pulled off a bit of a stunner on Monday morning with the verbal commitment of Baton Rouge (La.) safety Blaine Bradford. The class of 2026 star is a 247 composite five-star and a rare pull out of the state of Louisiana.Bradford checks in at 6-foot-1, 207 pounds and truly was a national prospect with more than 30 offers and that number surely would have swelled if the recruitment carried on through the summer.Kevin Noon of BuckeyeHuddle.com joins host Tom Orr to break down the impact of Bradford's commitment, and what it could mean for Ohio State's 2026 recruiting class.
In this special bonus episode you'll hear a great conversation between Seth Shaner and former Ohio State linebacker Curtis Grant. The two discuss Curtis's decision to come to Ohio State, the trials he faced in his first few seasons and the storybook 2014 campaign that ended in a national championship. Grant currently runs Pure Greens High Street in Columbus with his wife.
New Ohio State defensive coordinator Matt Patricia has a lot of experience coaching with teams coming off of championship seasons. He was the defensive coordinator for three New England Patriots teams that won the Super Bowl, and knows the challenges that come with trying to defend a title. That's why he had such an interesting answer when he was asked about that earlier this week. In this episode of the Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning podcast, you'll hear that and much more from Patricia, including updates on recruiting, why he was so intrigued by CJ Hicks, and much more.
Coming off of a national championship season, and with star wide receivers like Jeremiah Smith and Carnell Tate returning, the Ohio State offense was already on track to have a solid 2025 season. And that was before the Buckeyes added Max Klare, the top available tight end, in the transfer portal. How could Klare impact the Ohio State offense this fall, and is this the deepest tight end room in program history?In this episode of the Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning podcast, you'll hear from OSU tight ends coach Keenan Bailey, and TE Max Klare about that and much more.
For the second time this week, new Ohio State offensive line coach Tyler Bowen has added a commit to his 2026 recruiting class. This time it's Tucker Smith, a 3-star prospect out of Glendale, Arizona. In this episode, you'll hear Marc Givler and Kevin Noon of BuckeyeHuddle.com breaking down the impact of Smith's commitment on Ohio State's 2026 recruiting class.
The Ohio State football program held its annual Pro Day on Wednesday, allowing former players to showcase their 40-yard dash times, bench press reps, and more. So which Buckeyes had the best days to boost their stock for the NFL Draft?We'll take a run through some of the most impressive numbers, and let you hear from OSU head coach Ryan Day, OL Donovan Jackson and Seth McLaughlin, and DE Jack Sawyer about that. Plus some big news in the transfer portal as Buckeye basketball adds a men's player from another Big Ten team, and loses a star off the women's team. All of that on today's episode of the Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning podcast.
The Ohio State Buckeyes lost their entire starting defensive line following their 2024 national championship season. Now, legendary coach Larry Johnson is working hard to find replacements. In this episode of the Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning podcast, Tony Gerdeman of BuckeyeHuddle.com joins host Tom Orr to discuss what they learned talking to Johnson, as well as standouts like Kenyatta Jackson, Caden Curry, Eddrick Houston, and more. Plus, how are new additions like CJ Hicks and Logan George adapting to life in the Ohio State defensive line room?
The Ohio State Buckeyes just wrapped up their fourth practice of the 2025 spring football schedule. After practice, Tony Gerdeman and Tom Orr from BuckeyeHuddle.com discussed what they learned while talking to OSU head coach Ryan Day, offensive coordinator Brian Hartline, and defensive coordinator Matt Patricia, including updates on what will happen during the Buckeyes' spring showcase and when the national champions will make their traditional visit to the White House.
CJ Donaldson transferred to Ohio State from West Virginia, and has already seen some major changes that should turn him into a more explosive running back this fall. In this episode of the Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning podcast, you'll hear from Donaldson and Ohio State running backs coach Carlos Locklyn about Donaldso's physical transformation, and how it could change his game on the field.
On this special bonus edition of Buckeye Banter, Seth Shaner sits down with former Ohio State basketball player Jason Singleton.The two talk about Singleton's path from that state up north to Ohio State, his first three years in the program, being part of a coaching change and ending on a high note with a trip to the Final Four in 1999.Check out BuckeyeHuddle.com to get all of the best Ohio State Buckeyes coverage.Our team of contributors will have you up-to-the-minute with recruiting, team coverage and so much more.Join the fastest growing community in all of BuckeyeNation at BuckeyeHuddle.comJoin Now: https://buckeyehuddle.com/community/account/upgrades/***Please Support our Great Sponsors***Grateful Griddle Food Truck and Catering - https://gratefulgriddleoh.com/ Jeff Ruby's Columbus Steakhouse - https://www.jeffruby.com/columbus
Should NIL change Ohio State fans' recruiting expectations? That's just one of many listener questions that Marc Givler and Kevin Noon tackle on this episode of the Skull Session Recruiting Podcast.