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Rob, Chris, and Mace trying to figure out what in the hell is going on. We discuss the joys and pains of growing up and living in a highly religious community. Joined by experts in depression, addiction, ancient scripture, Mormon history and much more. Th


    • Feb 17, 2022 LATEST EPISODE
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    #47 Former SLCPD Officer Eric Moutsos

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 17, 2022 89:46


    Towards the end of Eric Moutsos career as a police officer he became vocal about certian practices he disagreed with such as arrest quotas and inter-dept disgrimination. During the pandemic Eric formed a group which focused on helping small business and individual rights which he feels have been violated during the pandemic. For more about Eric text the word Liberty to 8882106260

    # 46 - BYU valedictorian, Matt Easton

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 16, 2021 81:49


    Rob and Mace interview 2019 valedictorian Matt Easton who cared out as gay in his commencement speech. Now, 2 years later many are outraged as he was called out by LDS apostle Elder Holland in his most recent address at BYU.

    #45 "Holy Shit We're Alive" with Doug Cartwright

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 11, 2021 68:52


    Rob and Chris sit down with returning guest Doug Cartwright to talk about his book titled "Holy Sh!t We're Alive" available on amazon. His book is all about shifting perspective on life and how that helped him gain more purpose.

    #44 - Sex Therapist and Marriage Coach Emil Harker

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 3, 2021 90:32


    Rob and Mace talk with author and sex therapist Emil Harker about the difficulties with sex and marriage with todays set of challenges and the impact upbringing can have on the chemistry within the marriage intro: the guys chat about Tiger Woods, trans athletes with women, and Coca Cola "be less white" Thanks for listening 

    #43 - The Mormon Wolf of Wall Street Shane Baldwin

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 30, 2021 112:21


    Rob, Mace, and Chris sit down with Shane Baldwin and talk about his experience and rise to success, getting through a  5 year prison sentence, what he's learned through it all and how he's now a better person because of it.

    #42 - The Direction of this Economy with Spencer Nelson

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 24, 2020 85:01


    Rob and Mace catch up and are joined by Spencer Nelson to discuss the direction of the U.S. economy during the COVID 19 outbreak. How long should social distancing last? When does the damage of shutting down businesses begin to outweigh the damage of the disease?   Spencer Nielsen got his undergrad degree in Accounting and Finance and an MBA from Utah State. He is currently a portfolio manager and director of financial planning at Iron Gate Global Advisors.

    #41 - WTF Coronavirus

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 12, 2020 34:25


    Fill up your gas cans, horde all the toilet paper, and fill your shopping carts with hand sanitizer because Corona is upon us!!!

    #40 - Navigating Faith Crisis concerns with Bishop Ward

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 4, 2020 119:03


    The boys sit down for a candid conversation with Bishop Joseph Ward. Bishop Ward has a reputation for addressing common LDS faith crisis issues with youth and members of his congregation so we decided to have him on the show to give us his take on navigating popular church history topics some find unsavory… Coronavirus, Decriminalization of Polygamy, Polyandry and more!

    #39 - Psychedelics and Spirituality Part 2

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 12, 2020 64:07


    Doug Cartwright returns to talk meditation, psychedelics, and his new app the Daily Shifts.

    #38 - Our call with "Derek"

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 27, 2020 82:23


    A mysterious listener uses an alias to address a few inaccurate claims surrounding recent church policy changes regarding same-sex couples children being baptized and the amendment three years later. Their opinion matters. You'll have to take our word for it.

    #37 - John Dehlin

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 16, 2020 90:10


    Rob interviews John Dehlin about Mormon Stories Podcast, why he started it, and his excommunication. They also discuss changes in society and religion on homosexual marriage.

    #36 - 100 Billion Dollars!!!

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 23, 2019 55:40


    A former investment manager alleges in a whistleblower complaint to the IRS that the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints has amassed about $100 billion in accounts intended for charitable purposes, but has yet to do so for over 2 decades. The confidential document, received by the IRS on Nov. 21, accuses church leaders of misleading members. Rob, Mace, and Chris talk through the issue and discuss whether or not there is any foul play at hand or if this whole uproar is a big nothing burger.

    #35 - Lessons from U.S. Navy SEAL Karl (Gus)

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 12, 2019 67:51


    Rob and Mace sit down with a Navy SEAL team member and talk about becoming a SEAL, principles he lives by, and how his religion plays a roll in his life. Gus also gives his take on "safe spaces" and the dangers of having a victim mentality.

    #34 - James Curran (James the Mormon)

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 27, 2019 67:52


    Rob, Mace, and Chris talk with James about his struggles and success as a local artist.  With the name of "James the Mormon" came a list of other issues James wasn't anticipating. James talks about the roll of his faith despite the naysayers within his own community.

    #33 - Rob and Mace talk shop

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 21, 2019 31:53


    Rob and Mace discuss a number of current events and forecast the coming episodes. Thursday night football scuffle, live tv politician fluff, Trump impeachment, Epstein...

    #32 - Michael Moreno vs Racist Professor

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 7, 2019 60:07


    Michael Moreno, a student a Weber State University shares his experience in a debate class where the professor openly teaches anti-white ideologies. Michael shocked by what he was hearing recorded everything his professor had been teaching. Buckle up.

    #31 - Halloween Special 2

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 31, 2019 96:12


    Rob, Mace and Jake get spooky. We read your stories from our DMs and talk on the phone with a Navajo man that grew up on an Indian reservation about Skin Walkers. 

    #30 - Nate Holzapfel

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 21, 2019 71:22


    Rob, Mace, and Chris sit down with entrepreneur, and co-founder of Mission Belt Co, Nate Holzapfel. Many know Nate from his appearance on ABC's Shark Tank. We talk about the success and story of his business from selling belts out of run-down car to growing it into a multi-million dollar company featured in Forbes, Business Insider, GQ, Good Morning America and others.

    #29 - Ted Bundy

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 1, 2019 65:13


    Rob and Mace talk about desperate guys on social media, the anti circumcision protest, and the life of Ted Bundy. They read some stories and talk with Helen Davis who was approached by Bundy while she was walking home from school.

    #28 - Faith & Evolution

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 19, 2019 97:54


    Rob, Mace, and Chris speak with Dr. Jamie Jensen, a professor in the Department of Biology at Brigham Young University. We discuss the dilemma some face when trying to reconcile science and faith. Dr. Jensen blows our minds and clears up popular misconceptions surrounding the theory of evolution and its reputation in the LDS and Christian community.

    #27 - Latter-day Testosterone

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 10, 2019 117:20


    In these Latter-days testosterone within men is on the decline. WHY? We talk with Wes Norwood, a physicians assistant at a men's health clinic to understand what testosterone is and why we should be ever watchful of our man juices.

    #26 - Charlie Bird, Cosmo the Cougar

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 10, 2019 85:38


    Charlie Bird was the man behind the mask of Cosmo The Cougar. The infamous BYU mascot. Charlie has since come out as gay. He remains an active member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints and openly discusses his faith and sexuality with us on the Norman Podcast.

    #25 - Summer Sales Stories

    Play Episode Listen Later May 28, 2019 66:28


    We sit down with Sam Taggart, founder of D2D con and host of D2D podcast. We listen to your voicemails, read some of your stories and tell a few of our own. 

    #24 - Addiction recovery story w/ Treyden Johnson

    Play Episode Listen Later May 14, 2019 107:26


    We sit down with our friend @treyden_thefrood and he talks about overcoming his substance addiction. He just returned from a 2 year recovery program where he worked on a ranch in Arizona.

    #23 - Honor Code Follow-Up

    Play Episode Listen Later May 2, 2019 38:17


    In this episode we talk with the girl behind the Instagram account @honorcodestories. She talks about why she started the account and what she's trying to accomplish.

    #22 - BYU Honor Code

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 18, 2019 91:21


    We listen to your stories about the Honor Code. Some of the questions we discuss are: Does the Honor Code change? We give a brief history - women weren't allowed to wear jeans on campus until 1981. Why do people report their friends and roommates to the honor code office? Are students disincentivized to talk to their bishop and repent while in school for fear of being kicked out?   In choosing to attend BYU, students agree to live the honor code. If they can't or don't want to they can go to a different school. BYU is a private institution that can make its own rules. However, the honor code may create unintentional adverse effects that should at least be discussed.

    #21 - Pro-Life vs. Pro-Choice discussion

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 8, 2019 93:17


    We try to understand late term abortion. Mary, a liberal and a feminist, calls in to explain her perspective. We also talk about the Jazz, surviving the apocalypse and much more.

    #20 - The Provo Bachelor (Provo's Most Eligible)

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 26, 2019 55:55


    Rob, Chris and Jake are joined by Colin and Remington - the guys behind The Provo Bachelor.  

    #19 - Psychedelics and Spirituality

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 19, 2019 126:23


    We are joined by Doug Cartwright. Doug shares his experience with psychedelics that changed his life. God works in mysterious ways. Is it possible that he could speak through psychedelic drugs? We explore the possibility. We also discuss the Bachelor of Provo, Abducted in Plain Sight and more.

    #18 - Mormon NFL Offensive Lineman

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 30, 2019 64:57


    We are joined by Jordan Devey. Jordan is an Offensive Lineman for the Kansas City Chiefs. He won the Super Bowl in 2014 when he was with the Patriots. He's from American Fork Utah. We talk about being a member of the church in the NFL, having a career that keeps him busy on Sundays, and members that record the Super Bowl and watch it on Monday so as to not break the Sabbath.

    #17 - Freemasons and the Temple

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 28, 2019 88:11


    We are joined by Greg Kearney. He is a contributor for FairMormon. As an active member of the church and a freemason he is the expert in questions around the temple endowment and freemasonry. He grew up in Maine in the Farmington Maine ward, one of the oldest wards in existence in the church. He is a political cartoonist by trade.

    #16 - Mormon Mission Stories

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 23, 2019 96:27


    From pooping your pants to seeing dismembered bodies and shooting, you experience some crazy things on a mission. We are joined by Chris's friend Landon who served in Chihuahua Mexico and had several run in's with the cartel. We go through your mission story submissions, listen to voicemails and talk about Trump's 'Wall'.

    #15 - Heidi Powell

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 21, 2019 59:21


    Heidi is a fitness and transformation expert. She hosted ABC's hit show, Extreme Weight Loss. She is a mother to four kids, a devoted wife, author, and entrepreneur building.

    #14 - Conspiracy Theories

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 15, 2019 151:07


    Moon landing and flat earth are the two main topics we explore in this episode. Rob and Jake are joined by Tanner Lyman.

    #13 - Relationships and Dating

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 4, 2019 109:41


    Dating apps, playing games and a phone call with @provoguysamiright. On this episode we brought in our friend Doug Kaufman. Doug has been married for 11 years and has 4 kids. We talk about how dating has changed with the emergence of social media and dating apps like Tinder and Mutual. We also talk on the phone with @provoguysamiright and listen to your voicemails. 

    #12 - The Word of Wisdom

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 12, 2018 74:42


    So black tea is bad because of the caffeine? But energy drinks are ok? What about kombucha?

    #11 - Missionaries coming home early

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 21, 2018 106:40


    Zander Jensen tells his story about coming home early from his mission. He was in the MTC for a short time before he had debilitating anxiety attacks and was ultimately sent home. We talk about the stigma around coming home early from your mission, how members treat you and the lasting effect.

    #10 - Mormons and Gambling

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 13, 2018 57:09


    Blackjack, counting cards, losing almost $40k in sports betting and more. Our friend Scott Gourley tells his story about gambling. He learned how to count cards in Blackjack and became obsessed / addicted. Eventually he ventured into sports betting where he lost tens of thousands of dollars without his wife knowing about it.

    #9 - @themanspot - Guns, America, Donald Trump, the word of wisdom and more.

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 9, 2018 126:18


    We are joined by @themanspot. He is an Instagram personality/influencer, an entrepreneur, gun lover and a patriot. He grew up in a strict mormon family in Idaho and somewhere along the way decided he wanted to live life on his own terms. He's now a mormon that has tattoos and enjoys an occasional strong beverage. We talk about faith, guns, the word of wisdom and much more.

    #8 - Karl the Kingston - A conversation with a real life polygamist.

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 1, 2018 112:41


    What is it like to grow up as a polygamist in Utah? We sit down with Karl, a 19 year old from the infamous Kingston Group aka The Order aka The Latter Day Church of Christ (LDCC) aka The Davis County Co-Op. We talked about dating in a polygamist community (or lack there of), beliefs we have in common, how they are treated by Mormons and much more.

    #7 - Halloween Special

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 30, 2018 97:27


    Is the old saying true? “Speak of the devil and he shall appear.” Our listeners sent in their scary stories. We listen and discuss.

    #6 - Lindsay Hansen Park - What does it mean to be Mormon? Plus polygamy and more.

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 23, 2018 101:11


    In this episode we sit down with Lindsay Hansen Park, the host of the Year of Polygamy Podcast. We explore ways to improve love and understanding between active and inactive Mormons. Why Exmormons are often full of resentment, and anger. Starting at 47:00 we talk polygamy. She gives some details around the LDS history of polygamy. We talk about modern day polygamists and learn that they are living amongst us. They are shopping at the distribution center, attending our temples and even eating at the Cafe Rio.

    #5 - Starting a startup - Entrepreneurship and more.

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 18, 2018 44:19


    Chris and Jake tell the VidSpace story. We built the app that we use to make memes for our Instagram account, @normonmemes. We worked on the app from 2012 to 2015. The app didn't take off but we learned a lot. We talk through our main lessons learned and give advice to anyone with an app idea. Jordan Peterson video referenced (minute 2:14:30): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USg3NR76XpQ&t=8214s

    #4 - The man behind Prop 2 in Utah - Legalization of medical marijuana with DJ Schanz

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 11, 2018 97:28


    DJ is the Director of the Utah Patients Coalition. He is leading the initiative to legalize medical marijuana in the state of Utah. He talks about Prop 2, what it was like to have the church publicly oppose him and he addresses concerns that the people of Utah may have with medical marijuana.

    #3 - Mormon dating stories

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 6, 2018 62:36


    Dating in a Mormon community can be strange. We go through your crazy dating story submissions. We also talk about rumors surrounding general conference announcements, singles wards bishops and more.

    #2 - Mormons and Donald Trump, politics and more - with Colby Johnson

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 29, 2018 101:01


    Rob, Chris and Jake sit down with Colby Johnson. He's our friend we go to with any questions about politics. He ran for the Utah State House of Representatives while attending BYU. The first half of the episode is mainly about politics. The second half is all over the place.

    #1 - Drew Manning Fit2fat2fit - Guilt, shame and the keto diet.

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 26, 2018 84:28


    In this episode Rob and Jake talk with Drew Manning. Drew is known online as the Fit2fat2fit guy. As a personal trainer he intentionally gained 75 lbs over 6 months then lost it again in 6 months. His journey went viral and led to his NYT Best Selling book called Fit2fat2fit and his own TV show on A&E called Fit2fat2fit. Drew is now a big proponent of the keto diet. During his journey, Drew silently struggled with a pornography addiction that led to his eventual affair and divorce. He publicly tells his story on his own podcast episode 100 — Life after porn, affairs and lies, which we would highly recommend you check out. We talk about how to deal with guilt and shame as it relates to the Church. Drew is a big fan of Brené Brown who said, "If we can share our story with someone who responds with empathy and understanding, shame can't survive." Skip ahead to 1:09:00 to hear talk about the Church. In the first half we talk about the keto diet, self esteem, mindset and fitness. Do yourself a favor and check out his podcast episode 100 enough for the full story. Instagram: @fit2fat2fit Website: http://www.fit2fat2fit.com/

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