Time To Talk TFMR

Hello and welcome to our final episode of season 10.We're talking with Claire about her experience of multiple (3) TFMRs, two for a rare genetic condition that both Claire and her husband carry recessed genes for, and one for Spina Bifida.Claire talks us through what happened and how it has impacted and changed her.This is a really lovely episode about resilience and learning how to live with the uncertainty of life.We really hope you enjoy this episode, that it gives you hope for the future, whatever may come.You know we love to hear from you, so please get in touch and let us know what you think.Social media: Instagram @TimeToTalkTFMR.Email is TalkTFMR@yahoo.comThis episode is supported by Antenatal Results and Choices. For more information on how they support women and couples click here or call them on 0207 713 7486.

Hello, and welcome to this episode with fertility dietician Anita Beckwith.Anita has been a dietician for over 20 years, having worked in the NHS and private practise. She and her husband have experienced infertility struggles and early miscarriages, and then in 2022, Anita had a TFMR.We talk about what 'good' nutrition means, how to think about nutrition when trying to maximise your fertility and support your body in a having a health pregnancy, and lastly how pregnancy loss may impact our eating behaviour. Anita mentions Beat, an eating disorder charity, you can find more information here.And Anita can be reached @fertility.hormone.dietitian on Instagram, or visit her website here.You know we love to hear from you, so please get in touch and let us know what you think of this episode.Social media: Instagram and Facebook @TimeToTalkTFMR.Email is TalkTFMR@yahoo.comThis episode is supported by Antenatal Results and Choices. For more information on how they support women and couples click here or call them on 0207 713 7486.

Hello and welcome to today's episode with Jessica in the US talking about her TFMR story.Please note, we recorded this episode before the outcome of the US election.Jessica had her TFMR for her first pregnancy in March this year and shares her experience of what it has been like for her within this first 6 months. Navigating baby showers, friendships, support groups, etc. She also talks us through the experience of learning her son had a neural tube deficiency and speaking with the medical team about what options were available to her son. We talk about Jessica's thinking around trying to conceive again, her hopes and fears.You know we love to hear from you, so please get in touch and let us know what you think of this episode.Social media: Instagram and Facebook @TimeToTalkTFMR.Email is TalkTFMR@yahoo.comThis episode is supported by Antenatal Results and Choices. For more information on how they support women and couples click here or call them on 0207 713 7486.

Hello, and welcome to today's episode about T21.This is a panel episode, with three different guest, all of whom have experienced TFMR due to a T21 diagnosis.All three women share their stories of processing the impact of a T21 diagnosis, how they thought about what this meant for themselves, their babies and their whole family and how they feel about it now.Becky is a midwife and she talks about how the process was for her, then and now, as a medical professional working with pregnancy and birth. Loren found out one of the twins she was carrying had T21, she went through a selective termination at 32 weeks. Reeya discovered she was pregnant in her third trimester, it was a delightful surprise that quickly turned into a traumatic nightmare.You know we love to hear from you, so please get in touch and let us know what you think of this episode.Social media: Instagram and Facebook @TimeToTalkTFMR.Email is TalkTFMR@yahoo.comThis episode is supported by Antenatal Results and Choices. For more information on how they support women and couples click here or call them on 0207 713 7486.

Hello, and welcome to today's episode.We're speaking with Kaitlyn and Erika from the US, and Claire from Ireland, about advocacy for TFMR (and abortion).Unless you have been on the moon (!) for the last 12 months, there's a US election about to be decided on the 5th November, and women's reproductive rights is a key issue.Kaitlyn and Erika tell us about their experiences with advocacy within the US. How and why they are doing it and how they are holding up. We hear from Claire about the formation of TFMR Ireland, their key part in winning the right to a referendum on Ireland's restrictive abortion laws, and then going on and winning that referendum, changing Ireland's laws on abortion.These are three brilliant women, who out of trauma and grief are using their pain as power. As always, listen to your gut on choosing to listen to this episode. If you know us, you know we don't shy away from hard truths and direct language.You know we love to hear from you, so please get in touch and let us know what you think of this episode.Social media: Instagram and Facebook @TimeToTalkTFMR.Email is TalkTFMR@yahoo.comThis episode is supported by Antenatal Results and Choices. For more information on how they support women and couples click here or call them on 0207 713 7486.

Hello and welcome back to season 10!In this episode I am speaking with Jane fisher, Director of Antenatal Results and Choices about TFMR and abortion within the political sphere.Many do not realise how much ARC keeps up with the abortion debate within the UK and how they insure that politicians are informed and educated about TFMR. Unfortunately, we always need to be on our toes for those politicians seeking to lower the gestation age for abortion (24 weeks in the UK) and/or trying to ban women from being able to have a TFMR for certain conditions, like T21.We discuss what happened just before the UK election this summer and how ARC quietly works in the background on these issues.We hope you enjoy listening. Get in touch and let us know what you think. Social media: Instagram and Facebook @TimeToTalkTFMR.Email is TalkTFMR@yahoo.comThis episode is supported by Antenatal Results and Choices. For more information on how they support women and couples click here or call them on 0207 713 7486.

Hello and welcome to today's episode. This will be our final episode for season 9, but we'll be back in the Autumn with season 10.Today, Kris joins me as we talk about his and his wife's experience of TFMR, men's grief and mental health and how golf has helped him in his grief story so far. You can find Kris's Golf Yourself Healthy website, blog and podcast details hereWe hope you enjoy listening. Get in touch and let us know what you think. Social media: Instagram and Facebook @TimeToTalkTFMR.Email is TalkTFMR@yahoo.comThis episode is supported by Antenatal Results and Choices. For more information on how they support women and couples click here or call them on 0207 713 7486.

In this episode I speak with Sara and Angela about their experience of TFMR last year for a T21 diagnosis. I really appreciate their candour about their decision making process and how they navigated this very difficult time as a couple.We hope you enjoy listening. Get in touch and let us know what you think. Social media: Instagram and Facebook @TimeToTalkTFMR.Email is TalkTFMR@yahoo.comThis episode is supported by Antenatal Results and Choices. For more information on how they support women and couples click here or call them on 0207 713 7486.

Hello and welcome to this special episode with a live audience and panel of great expert guests, recorded at Camden Arts Centre in London.It was a really fantastic opportunity to meet some of you, our wonderful listeners, hear your stories and connect over (copious!) olives. As well, of course, as hearing from a expert guest panel answering all your TFMR questions:Dr Brenda Kelly, Matrernal and Fetal Medicine ConsultantDagmar Tapon, Genetic CounsellorJane Fisher, Director of Antenatal Results and ChoicesA special thank you to ARC for organising and supporting the event.We hope you enjoy listening. Get in touch and let us know what you think. Social media: Instagram and Facebook @TimeToTalkTFMR.Email is TalkTFMR@yahoo.comThis episode is supported by Antenatal Results and Choices. For more information on how they support women and couples click here or call them on 0207 713 7486.

In today's episode, Hayley is speaking with Keren Ludski CEO of Red Nose Australia and Amanda Tipping, General Manager of Pink Elephant Support Network. Our first Australian episode!Keren and Amanda talk about how their organisations support women and couples who have terminated a wanted pregnancy. They also share a little about their personal experiences with pregnancy and baby loss.More information about both organisations can be found here:Pink Elephants Support NetworkRed Nose AustraliaWe hope you enjoy listening. Get in touch and let us know what you think. Social media: Instagram and Facebook @TimeToTalkTFMR.Email is TalkTFMR@yahoo.comThis episode is supported by Antenatal Results and Choices. For more information on how they support women and couples click here or call them on 0207 713 7486.

Hello and welcome to this episode talking to four women and their experiences of TFMR just before and after the fall of Roe vs. Wade.Roe vs. Wade was the five-decade old supreme court decision to uphold a woman's right to obtain an abortion. In June 2022, the supreme court overturned this decision, sending abortion rights and access across the United States into a crisis.We hope you enjoy listening. Get in touch and let us know what you think. Social media: Instagram and Facebook @TimeToTalkTFMR.Email is TalkTFMR@yahoo.comThis episode is supported by Antenatal Results and Choices. For more information on how they support women and couples click here or call them on 0207 713 7486.

Hello, and welcome to the start of Season 9!We're kicking it off with an epsiode about exercise. It's something that a few of you have asked for over the years, and to be honest, I've always felt mixed about. In a society that tells mothers to 'bounce back' after full-term, live births - the pressure for bereaved mothers can be crushing.Thankfully, we have Casey to talk to us about healthy re-engagement with fitness and how to look after your post-partum body. Casey is passionate about core and pelvic floor health, any exercise you do should consider these aspects of your physiology.Some terms used:Diastasis - When the muscles of the abdomen separate during or after pregnancy.Pelvic Floor - Several muscle, ligaments and fascia attached to your pelvis. Damaged/weakened pelvic floor muscles can lead to incontinence (leaking wee or poo).Prolapse - Pelvic organ prolapse is when 1 or more of the organs in the pelvis slip down from their normal position and bulge into the vagina. It can be the womb (uterus), bowel, bladder or top of the vagina.We hope you enjoy this episode and get some good advice and support in how to go about healthy fitness.You can find Casey on Instagram @twopeaswellness and her website can be found here.Happy listening!

Hello, and Happy New Year!In today's episode I am speaking with Dr Rachel Foggin from BPAS (British Pregnancy Advisory Service) about surgical termination. Many of you wrote in with your questions about surgical termination and we tried to get as many of these answered as we could. This is a very open, honest and frank conversation about what surgical termination in the U.K., and we are very grateful to Rachel for sharing her expertise with us.I hope you enjoy listening. Get in touch and let us know what you think. Social media: Instagram and Facebook @TimeToTalkTFMR and Twitter @TalkTFMREmail is TalkTFMR@yahoo.comThis episode is supported by Antenatal Results and Choices. For more information on how they support women and couples click here or call them on 0207 713 7486.

 Thank you for joining us today. In this episode, Nick Embleton (consultant neonatologist) joins me as co-host for this episode talking to a group of Fathers about men's grief after TFMR. The Fathers joining us are Brian, Kenneth, Justin. They are all joining us from the USA and Canada and all have experienced TFMR due to foetal anomaly. RTZ Hope is spoken about in this episode and they can be found here: https://rtzhope.org/This is the third and final episode in our series talking to father's about their grief and experiences.If you liked this, you may also want to listen to:Episode 45: https://www.buzzsprout.com/2082264/12845792-tfmr-fathers-uk.mp3?download=trueEpisode 48: https://www.buzzsprout.com/2082264/13777297-tfmr-fathers-maternal-health.mp3?download=true  Episode 31: https://www.buzzsprout.com/2082264/11678036-tfmr-a-father-s-grief-with-rasmus-ilso.mp3?download=trueI hope you enjoy listening. Get in touch and let us know what you think. Social media: Instagram and Facebook @TimeToTalkTFMR and Twitter @TalkTFMREmail is TalkTFMR@yahoo.comThis episode is supported by Antenatal Results and Choices. For more information on how they support women and couples click here or call them on 0207 713 7486.

In today's episode, I'm speaking with Jane Fisher, the Director of Antenatal Results and Choices (ARC). It's ARC's 35th anniversary this year and we thought it's be a good idea to hear from Jane about ARC's history, why it was created, how and by whom. I also wanted to hear about what has been most present for ARC in our most recent times and where they are headed for the future.Jane is a very dynamic charity Director. I don't think there are many that happily (eagerly) man the helplines! And this is what makes ARC so special to us TFMR mothers and fathers. It is having a dedicated charity organisation that has the ability to not only understand the nuanced complexities of what this devasting experience of pregnancy/baby loss is like for parents, but also how to communicate this to the wider public in a compassionate and truthful way.This is a special charity, doing much good, not just for parents, but in also providing training and information for healthcare professionals too. We also talk a bit about how ARC supports HCPs and is at the forefront of research into various aspects of TFMR.We hope this gives you a good overview of ARC and how it is there to support you. Even those outside of the U.K. are able to access their specialist support.We hope you enjoy listening. Get in touch and let us know what you think. Social media: Instagram and Facebook @TimeToTalkTFMREmail is TalkTFMR@yahoo.comThis episode is supported by Antenatal Results and Choices. For more information on how they support women and couples click here or call them on 0207 713 7486.

Today joining me to talk about pregnancy after loss is Natasha Williams. Natasha is a highly experienced CBT and EMDR trained Psychotherapist, who has over 20 years' experience of working with women and their partners. She specialises in working with women who have experienced fertility issues and pregnancy loss, and she is a member of the Parenthood in Mind team.I asked Natasha your questions about the difficulties of pregnancy after loss for TFMR, and she shares her knowledge of anxiety and trauma with us.If you liked this episode, why not have a listen to have a listen to Natasha's colleague and founder of Parenthood in Mind, psychotherapist Julianne Boutaleb talking about trying to conceive in episode 44, or episode 38 where I discuss genetic counselling with Dagmar Tapon and ARC's Jane Fisher.We hope you enjoy listening. Get in touch and let us know what you think. Social media: Instagram and Facebook @TimeToTalkTFMR and Twitter @TalkTFMREmail is TalkTFMR@yahoo.comThis episode is supported by Antenatal Results and Choices. For more information on how they support women and couples click here or call them on 0207 713 7486.

In today's episode, I'm talking with two dad's who have gone through the experience of TFMR due to their partner's health. Avi from Western Canada and Jack from the UK join me, and my visiting co-host, Consultant Neonatologist, Nick Embleton, discussing what it has been like for them trying to support their wives while also grieving at the same time.This is the second in our series talking to father's about their grief and experiences. Episode 45 is the first in this series with my co-host Nick, speaking to four dad's from the UK about. We also have Episode 31 with Rasmus, who gives a raw and heartfelt account of his experience.We hope you enjoy listening. Get in touch and let us know what you think. Social media: Instagram and Facebook @TimeToTalkTFMR and Twitter @TalkTFMREmail is TalkTFMR@yahoo.comThis episode is supported by Antenatal Results and Choices. For more information on how they support women and couples click here or call them on 0207 713 7486.

Alannah Ross, from We Seek Care, joins me in today's episode talking about returning to work after having a TFMR. Alannah had an abortion nine years ago and found she struggled both physically, mentally and emotionally afterwards. Feeling unsupported in her own recovery, she set about setting up We Seek Care, a platform focussed on aftercare. Originally, Alannah thought Seek would support individual women and partners, but she soon found she had businesses knocking on her door. We discuss what women need from their employers after a TFMR, how to approach your manager and what you can do if you feel you can't speak with your employer.Alannah offers a free 15min phone call to help you work out what you may need and how you can speak with your employer. Seek offers aftercare plans and 1:1 coaching that you can access, even if your employer doesn't have a pregnancy loss policy in place. We hope you enjoy listening. Get in touch and let us know what you think. Social media: Instagram and Facebook @TimeToTalkTFMR and Twitter @TalkTFMREmail is TalkTFMR@yahoo.comThis episode is supported by Antenatal Results and Choices. For more information on how they support women and couples click here or call them on 0207 713 7486.

Welcome to today's episode: TFMR for a T21 (Down Syndrome) diagnosis with Emma Parsons. Emma had her TFMR in 2009. After having her 20 week anatomy scan,  she was informed there was a high chance her son, Isaac, had T21. This was later confirmed by further genetic testing. Emma talks to us about her decision making process, how she felt quite lonely, the effect on her mental health and how her grief has evolved over time.She is very open and honest, and we know that many mums out there who have been dealt this particular TFMR card will resonate with much of what Emma has to say about her experience.We hope you enjoy listening. Get in touch and let us know what you think. Social media: Instagram and Facebook @TimeToTalkTFMR and Twitter @TalkTFMREmail is TalkTFMR@yahoo.comThis episode is supported by Antenatal Results and Choices. For more information on how they support women and couples click here or call them on 0207 713 7486.

Welcome to today's episode: TFMR Fathers.I'm so grateful that four dads were willing to come and speak with us. I also had an awesome guest co-host this episode, consultant neonatologist Nick Embleton.Our four dads are:Alex, Ethan, Sam and JohnAll are base here in the UK and all went through termination due to foetal anomaly. They were all amazingly open and honest about their experiences, how they were impacted, what support they received and what they felt was needed, not just for them, but for their partners as well.I hope you enjoy listening. Get in touch and let us know what you think. Social media: Instagram and Facebook @TimeToTalkTFMR and Twitter @TalkTFMREmail is TalkTFMR@yahoo.comThis episode is supported by Antenatal Results and Choices. For more information on how they support women and couples click here or call them on 0207 713 7486.

Hello, and welcome to today's episode.I'm joined by Julianne Boutaleb of Parenthood in Mind. Julianne is a Chartered perinatal psychologist, with over 20 years in the NHS and private practise. We're discussing trying to conceive after TFMR – but also stopping TTC after TFMR.This is a really good follow on episode from our Sex and Intimacy after TFMR that was released a few weeks ago.Julianne mentions a few places to get extra support from, including:Tommy Pregnancy HubMaternal OCD Org.and of course you can find more information at Parenthood in Mind.I hope you enjoy listening. Get in touch and let us know what you think. Social media: Instagram and Facebook @TimeToTalkTFMR and Twitter @TalkTFMREmail is TalkTFMR@yahoo.comThis episode is supported by Antenatal Results and Choices. For more information on how they support women and couples click here or call them on 0207 713 7486.

Hello and welcome!In today's episode I'm speaking with Suzie Heaney. Suzie is a midwife and holds a Phd from Queen's University Belfast. She carried out research (called The Bluebell Study) looking into the healthcare needs of women and families going through TFMR (specifically termination for fetal anomaly) in Northern Ireland and Ireland. We know that the laws surrounding terminations/abortions have changed in both of these countries recently, to allow access to essential healthcare. But how have these changes impacted women going through terminations for fetal anomalies?  Suzie is also ARC's coordinator in NI.Suzie shares the results of her research, both for parents and for healthcare professional. You can email Suzie at s.heaney@qub.ac.uk for more information about her study, or future work in this area. You can also contact her about ARC's support in NI.I hope you enjoy listening. Get in touch and let us know what you think. Social media: Instagram and Facebook @TimeToTalkTFMR and Twitter @TalkTFMREmail is TalkTFMR@yahoo.comThis episode is supported by Antenatal Results and Choices. For more information on how they support women and couples click here or call them on 0207 713 7486.

In today's episode, I'm speaking with Karen Burgess from Petal's Baby Loss Counselling Charity and Sally Kelly, a specialist midwife in bereavement care, about returning to sex and/or intimacy after a TFMR.It's such an important topic...and we just don't talk about it - me included!We talk about how to connect with each other again - because the trauma and grief explodes the relationship in many ways, for many people. Communication is key, being honest with each other, which can feel very very difficult when you are already at your most vulnerable. Thank you to Karen and Sally for tackling this subject with me, and thank you to all you listeners who sent in a comment or question for this episode.I hope you enjoy listening. Get in touch and let us know what you think. Social media: Instagram and Facebook @TimeToTalkTFMR and Twitter @TalkTFMREmail is TalkTFMR@yahoo.comThis episode is supported by Antenatal Results and Choices. For more information on how they support women and couples click here or call them on 0207 713 7486.

Hello, and welcome to the start of season 7!Today I'm speaking with Tracy Gilmore-Nimoy. Tracy is a psychotherapist based in California, USA. She had her own 3rd trimester TFMR three years ago. The difficult labour ended up seeing Tracy haemorrhage, the resulting physical trauma of interventions to save her life has meant she's been left with Asherman's Syndrome (scarring of the uterus). Tracy has unfortunately had a further miscarriage from a spontaneous pregnancy, and then a further miscarriage after trying IVF.She shares a bit about her experiences and how she's dealing and coping with secondary infertility.You can find her on Instagram @TGNtherapy and her website can be found here.I hope you enjoy listening. Get in touch and let us know what you think. Social media: Instagram and Facebook @TimeToTalkTFMR and Twitter @TalkTFMREmail is TalkTFMR@yahoo.comThis episode is supported by Antenatal Results and Choices. For more information on how they support women and couples click here or call them on 0207 713 7486.

Hello and welcome to our last episode of 2022.I'm speaking with Suzie Jay Goldsmith, photographer, mentor, author and mum. Suzie had two TFMRs , and after her second one, she decided to write a book exploring how creativity can help us navigate our grieving process and ease trauma. The Rallying Cry is part autobiography, part research and part workbook.Christmas is a difficult time of year for anyone who's grieving. Really, this episode could be listened to for any time there's a big cultural celebration that brings families, friends and communities together, as it's at these times that we are made keenly aware of who isn't here.TFMR is baby loss and a traumatic loss. Often, especially in the early stages of our grief, trauma is present in the form of high-anxiety and/or PTSD. Research shows that creativity in any form helps to regulate our central nervous system. As does acts of kindness, practising gratitude (not to be confused with 'positive thinking') and being in nature.This episode is packed full of ideas on how to help ease your pain, from ideas for acts of kindness to including your baby in your Christmas traditions; to incorporating creativity and setting boundaries to give yourself the space you need.You can find the link to Aching Arms (mentioned in the episode) here. And if you're interested in learning more about Suzie's iPhone Magic course, find it here.I really enjoyed this chat with Suzie, I hope you enjoy listening. Get in touch and let us know what you think. Social media: Instagram and Facebook @TimeToTalkTFMR and Twitter @TalkTFMREmail is TalkTFMR@yahoo.comThis episode is supported by Antenatal Results and Choices. For more information on how they support women and couples click here or call them on 0207 713 7486.

In today's episode I'm talking with two women, Rachel and Georgia, about their TFMRs for maternal health reasons.Rachel had a TFMR due to preeclampsia and HELLP syndrome and Georgia experienced an 'eccentric' pregnancy and Asherman's Syndrome which put her at serious risk of uterine abruption.This year, we featured TFMR for maternal health reasons during baby loss awareness. I learnt from speaking to many of you that it can feel that your experience isn't valued in the same way, or that you aren't included within the TFMR community in the same way. Let me say right now, you belong here. We all have individual experiences, and no path is easy, they are just different. My hope with this podcast is that we can shed light on these different paths within the TFMR community and show each other empathy, compassion and support.Get in touch and let us know what you think. Social media: Instagram and Facebook @TimeToTalkTFMR and Twitter @TalkTFMREmail is TalkTFMR@yahoo.comThis episode is supported by Antenatal Results and Choices. For more information on how they support women and couples click here or call them on 0207 713 7486.

Hello! In today's episode, we're talking with Dagmar Tapon, a genetic counsellor and Jane Fisher, Director of Antenatal Results and Choices, about genetic counselling.We talk about the technical stuff, like the difference between genes and chromosomes, the limits to testing, options for future pregnancies, the emotional and mental load that both testing and coping can bring...and much more.Dagmar mentions the HFEA as a resource for statics about IVF in the UK:Human Fertilisation and Embryology Authority gives  impartial, accurate information about IVF, clinics and other fertility treatments from the UK government fertility regulator:https://www.hfea.gov.uk/Get in touch and let us know what you think. Social media: Instagram and Facebook @TimeToTalkTFMR and Twitter @TalkTFMREmail is TalkTFMR@yahoo.comThis episode is supported by Antenatal Results and Choices. For more information on how they support women and couples click here or call them on 0207 713 7486.

Hello, and welcome to today's episode. Our guest is Mara Clarke. Mara is an abortion activist, mum and disabled woman. She founded Abortion Support Network which supports those who need to travel for an abortion from across Europe. We discuss Channel 4's documentary titled Disability and Abortion: The Hardest Choice, aired at the end of the summer. Does ending a pregnancy due to detected fetal abnormality amount to disability discrimination? No, of course not. Once again, this is a case of trying to simplify a complex and nuanced situation. Mara and I then get into deeper conversations about abortion, what it means to be pro-choice, how TFMR intersects with all of this, etc, etc. It's a rich and fast moving conversation, hold on to your seats folks! And I will say, listen to your instincts about whether to listen to this episode or not. I am very aware of what the word abortion can bring up for TFMR parents, and we use it a lot in this episode.  You can find Mara on Instagram @mara.k.clarke and Abortion Support Network @abortionsupportnetwork If you do listen, get in touch and let us know what you think. Social media: Instagram and Facebook @TimeToTalkTFMR and Twitter @TalkTFMR Email is TalkTFMR@yahoo.com This episode is supported by Antenatal Results and Choices. For more information on how they support women and couples click here or call them on 0207 713 7486. We've added a Patron account to the podcast. We'd be so grateful if you'd consider supporting the podcast with a monthly donation. Pledges start at only $1 per month. Head to our Podbean page and click on the 'Become a Patron' button at the top right to learn more.

Hello! And welcome to Season 6! Today's episode is all about how our friends can support us through TFMR and beyond. We're really grateful to Jess and Atiya for coming on and discussing their experience so openly.  This is a really moving episode about how friendship can be such a powerful support for those facing this terrible loss. Get in touch and let us know what you think. Social media: Instagram and Facebook @TimeToTalkTFMR and Twitter @TalkTFMR Email is TalkTFMR@yahoo.com This episode is supported by Antenatal Results and Choices. For more information on how they support women and couples click here or call them on 0207 713 7486. We've added a Patron account to the podcast. We'd be so grateful if you'd consider supporting the podcast with a monthly donation. Pledges start at only $1 per month. Head to our Podbean page and click on the 'Become a Patron' button at the top right to learn more.  

Today we're speaking with Lucy Livesey again, all about well-being, including mindfulness meditation, for those going through baby loss. Lucy is a mental health nurse, hypnobirthing instructor, mindfulness teacher. She and her husband Rick lost their daughter, Ellie, in a TFMR a few years ago. After her experience, she went on to develop the Ellie's Gift App as a resource for others to help them through the birth of a baby they know has died, or will die. The app has been developed in conjunction with the NHS. It has just had a new launch with more features. Lucy is dedicated to making sure this app keeps on being updated and added to.  You can find the app from Apple and Android now. Lucy also runs a specific mindfulness and grief courses, all free to use. She also runs baby loss sharing circles - again free.  She tells us about all the different resources she's offering, from the app to her sharing circles. What they are, how they work and why they can help. And the Japanese art form of repairing broken pottery with liquid gold is called...Kintsugi (you'll just have to listen to the episode to find out why we're talking about this!). Get in touch and let us know what you think. Social media: Instagram and Facebook @TimeToTalkTFMR and Twitter @TalkTFMR Email is TalkTFMR@yahoo.com This episode is supported by Antenatal Results and Choices. For more information on how they support women and couples click here or call them on 0207 713 7486. We've added a Patron account to the podcast. We'd be so grateful if you'd consider supporting the podcast with a monthly donation. Pledges start at only $1 per month. Head to our Podbean page and click on the 'Become a Patron' button at the top right to learn more.

In today's episode we hear from Janelle Ramsey. Janelle is a befriender for SANDS Leeds and runs a support group for parents who, for them, their baby who died is there last child.  This could either be because a decision has been made to stop trying for children (or more living children), or the decision has been made for them due to medical negligence, for example.  Janelle is a TFMR parent herself and while she was seeking support after her loss, she thought of the idea of setting up a group for those that find themselves not going on to have a subsequent live pregnancy. The conversations around trying to conceive and pregnancy after loss are important, but it can leave those who aren't heading down these paths feeling isolated and lonely.  For more information and to join their group, contact Janelle at support.leeds@sands.org Get in touch and let us know what you think. Social media: Instagram and Facebook @TimeToTalkTFMR and Twitter @TalkTFMR Email is TalkTFMR@yahoo.com This episode is supported by Antenatal Results and Choices. For more information on how they support women and couples click here or call them on 0207 713 7486. We've added a Patron account to the podcast. We'd be so grateful if you'd consider supporting the podcast with a monthly donation. Pledges start at only $1 per month. Head to our Podbean page and click on the 'Become a Patron' button at the top right to learn more.

Welcome, hello and thank you for listening. We've brought this episode together very quickly and I'm grateful to all of our guests for jumping on to this with me at short notice. My guests are: Jane Armstrong @TFMRsocialworker (Instagram) based in Texas Melanie Zamenhof @mzamenhof (Instagram) based in New York Claire Cullen @TFMR_Ireland based in Ireland We are talking about our stories, how we feel about the overturning of Roe vs Wade, what impact this has for TFMR parents and what we can do about it. If you are in one of the states with trigger laws, here are some abortion funds/providers that can help you (all handles are for Instagram): Arkansas: Arkansas Abortion Support Network @arkansas_abortion_support Idaho: Northwest Abortion Access Fund @nwaafund Kentucky: Kentucky Health Justice Network @kyhealthjustice Louisiana: New Orleans Abortion Fund @neworleansabortionfund Mississippi: Mississippi Reproduction Freedom Fund @mrff_funds_abortions Missouri: Missouri Abortion Fund @moabortionfund North Dakota: ND WIN Abortion Access Fund @ndwinfund Oklahoma: Roe Fund @roefund South Dakota: Justice Through Empowerment Network @jenetwork605 Tennessee: Abortion Care for Tennessee @abortioncaretn Texas: Lilith Fund @lilithfund Utah: Utah Abortion Fund @utabortionfund Wyoming: Chelsea's Fund @chelseafund Nati Network of Abortion Funds @abortionfunds For TFMR specific support: UK: Antenatal Results and Choice USA: Ending a Wanted Pregnancy The other podcast I mention about 'Moral Certitude', which I would highly recommend we all listen to - is called Hidden Brain and the episode is called 'Moral Combat', find it here Lastly, I hope this episode brings some focus for the rage and despair that is being felt out there right now. I hope this inspires you to tell you full stories, honestly and openly. The more that we can honestly talk about abortion, in all it's nuances, the better in my opinion.

Hello! And welcome to today's episode. I'm speaking with Buff about her TFMR last year. We open the episode with Buff reading one of her poems that she wrote after Forest died. Creative writing, journal writing, spoken word and poetry are all ways that Buff has used to support herself through this. Our last episode, we spoke to Rasmus, Buff's husband. Here, we hear Buff's perspective. We can hear how they processed their grief differently. Their differences of how they made meaning of what was happening. They are based in Portugal. Buff is British, Rasmus is Danish and so we also talk a little about the isolation and cultural differences too. Buff mentions her doula, who helped her with figuring out what she needed/wanted in her last few days with Forest and for his birth. The organisation is called Towards Tomorrow Together. They are UK based, but supported Buff from afar. If you're interested in learning more about their eco-retreats, you can find more information here: Gaia Retreat Get in touch and let us know what you think. Social media: Instagram and Facebook @TimeToTalkTFMR and Twitter @TalkTFMR Email is TalkTFMR@yahoo.com This episode is supported by Antenatal Results and Choices. For more information on how they support women and couples click here or call them on 0207 713 7486. We've added a Patron account to the podcast. We'd be so grateful if you'd consider supporting the podcast with a monthly donation. Pledges start at only $1 per month. Head to our Podbean page and click on the 'Become a Patron' button at the top right to learn more.    

Hello, and welcome to today's episode! I'm speaking with Rasmus about his experience of TFMR as a dad. Father's are often neglected in the TFMR conversations, and the wider baby loss topics, so I am so grateful to Rasmus for coming to chat with me. Rasmus speaks with so much eloquence and emotion about his son, Forest. He is honest and raw, and I am sure many of you, like me, will appreciate his vulnerability. Hopefully, our dad listeners out there will hear something that resonates with their grief in Rasmus's words.  Get in touch and let us know what you think. Social media: Instagram and Facebook @TimeToTalkTFMR and Twitter @TalkTFMR Email is TalkTFMR@yahoo.com This episode is supported by Antenatal Results and Choices. For more information on how they support women and couples click here or call them on 0207 713 7486. We've added a Patron account to the podcast. We'd be so grateful if you'd consider supporting the podcast with a monthly donation. Pledges start at only $1 per month. Head to our Podbean page and click on the 'Become a Patron' button at the top right to learn more.  

Well this is exciting! Welcome to our first ever podcast recording with a live audience! This even was brought to you in conjunction with Antenatal Results and Choices. And what a fantastic event it was! We loved meeting some of our listeners in real life and getting to know some of them a little better. Our panel of experts, Dr Brenda Kelly Consultant Obstetrician, Jane Fisher Director of ARC and Sally Kelly Specialist Bereavement Midwife, answered all our audiences TFMR questions. These ranged from the place for more scans in later pregnancy to maternal mental health impacts. We hope you enjoy this engaging conversation! This episode is supported by Antenatal Results and Choices. For more information on how they support women and couples click here or call them on 0207 713 7486. We've added a Patron account to the podcast. We'd be so grateful if you'd consider supporting the podcast with a monthly donation. Pledges start at only $1 per month. Head to our Podbean page and click on the 'Become a Patron' button at the top right to learn more. Let us know what you think of this episode. Get in touch on social media; Instagram and Facebook @TimeToTalkTFMR and Twitter @TalkTFMR Email is TalkTFMR@yahoo.com  

Hello and welcome to our final episode of Season Four! That went fast! Don't worry though, we'll be back soon with Season Five before you know it and we have some great episodes planned for you. Today's episode is about how TFMR impacts someone's religious faith. Chelsey was raised with Catholicism taking a central focus in her life and most of her family are active members of the church. After her TFMR, everything change. This has left Chelsey with a secondary loss, the loss of her faith. Still a very spiritual person however, she's learning how to direct this part of herself in a different way. It's a confusing place for Chelsey to hold and she openly discusses the ambiguity she is trying to work through for herself, while grieving and remembering her son, Percy. This episode is supported by Antenatal Results and Choices. For more information on how they support women and couples click here or call them on 0207 713 7486. We've added a Patron account to the podcast. We'd be so grateful if you'd consider supporting the podcast with a monthly donation. Pledges start at only $1 per month. Head to our Podbean page and click on the 'Become a Patron' button at the top right to learn more. Let us know what you think of this episode. Get in touch on social media; Instagram and Facebook @TimeToTalkTFMR and Twitter @TalkTFMR Email is TalkTFMR@yahoo.com

In today's episode we hear from Ja'Nai Wilkes describe her journey with hyperemesis gravidarum. Often described as severe sickness, HG can be a debilitating illness. Ja'Nai has been effected by HG in all of her pregnancies. She managed to make it through her first two pregnancies and give birth to two healthy babies, but when she got pregnant for a 3rd time, she knew things were going to be much, much worse. Ja'Nai went on the end three of her pregnancies due to HG. Her babies Dahlia, DeWayne and Rose are forever loved and missed. TFMR for maternal health reasons is often less spoken about and so we are grateful to Ja'Nai for sharing with us so openly. She has gone on to create support groups for other HG sufferers and you can find the various support mentioned in the episode here: Ja'Nai's own website with links to various support offerings: Hyperemesis Gravidarum Loss Support for UK listeners: Pregnancy Sickness Support This episode is supported by Antenatal Results and Choices. For more information on how they support women and couples click here or call them on 0207 713 7486. We've added a Patron account to the podcast. We'd be so grateful if you'd consider supporting the podcast with a monthly donation. Pledges start at only $1 per month. Head to our Podbean page and click on the 'Become a Patron' button at the top right to learn more. Let us know what you think of this episode. Get in touch on social media; Instagram and Facebook @TimeToTalkTFMR and Twitter @TalkTFMR Email is TalkTFMR@yahoo.com

Today, we're chatting with both Jane Fisher from Antenatal Results and Choices and Professor Caroline Lafarge from the University of West London. Caroline is a Professor of Psychology with an interest in maternal health. After going through her own termination, Caroline decided to focus her masters and Phd in psychology in this area of research. She has undertaken many research projects to look into how women cope with a termination for fetal abnormality and the way coping relates to women's post-termination psychological changes. ARC has funded some of Caroline's findings, most notably in the importance of choice of method of termination (medical or surgical). We talk about what research sets out to do, how it can help bring about change and what both Jane and Caroline have learnt from the research carried out so far. You can find a link to a list of Caroline's publications here. This episode is supported by Antenatal Results and Choices. For more information on how they support women and couples click here or call them on 0207 713 7486. We've added a Patron account to the podcast. We'd be so grateful if you'd consider supporting the podcast with a monthly donation. Pledges start at only $1 per month. Head to our Podbean page and click on the 'Become a Patron' button at the top right to learn more. Let us know what you think of this episode. Get in touch on social media; Instagram and Facebook @TimeToTalkTFMR and Twitter @TalkTFMR Email is TalkTFMR@yahoo.com

Hello! Welcome to today's episode. It is Pregnancy After Loss Awareness month and so we are pleased to bring you Susan's story. Susan tells us about her experiences of a third trimester TFMR and pregnancy after loss. These are two subjects we know many of you have been waiting to hear more about. Most TFMRs happen in the second trimester, usually after the anomaly scan at approximately 20 weeks gestation. However, when what is picked up isn't clear and further tests are needed, this can take women into the third trimester. Or, there are times, as in Susan's case, a problem is detected much later in pregnancy during what is meant to be a routine scan. At 36 weeks pregnant, Susan was told that their second daughter had a severe skeletal disorder. Susan has since gone on to have another daughter, and she speaks about the impact of her TFMR on her subsequent pregnancy. This episode is supported by Antenatal Results and Choices. For more information on how they support women and couples click here or call them on 0207 713 7486. We've added a Patron account to the podcast. We'd be so grateful if you'd consider supporting the podcast with a monthly donation. Pledges start at only $1 per month. Head to our Podbean page and click on the 'Become a Patron' button at the top right to learn more. Let us know what you think of this episode. Get in touch on social media; Instagram and Facebook @TimeToTalkTFMR and Twitter @TalkTFMR Email is TalkTFMR@yahoo.com  

This episode is supported by Antenatal Results and Choices. For more information on how they support women and couples click here or call them on 0207 713 7486. We've added a Patron account to the podcast. We'd be so grateful if you'd consider supporting the podcast with a monthly donation. Pledges start at only $1 per month. Head to our Podbean page and click on the 'Become a Patron' button at the top right to learn more. In today's episode Hayley's chatting with Kelsey. Kelsey and her husband are both carriers for 3C Syndrome. They only discovered this after their daughter, Blake, was born and went through several years of tests in order to get to the bottom of her rare condition. IVF wasn't an option for them and so this meant that in order to grow their family, they would need to risk a future baby being diagnosed with the same condition and then needing to make a decision to end the pregnancy. They have gone through 3 subsequent TFMR's, all for 3C Syndrome.  We talk about the difficult choices they've had to make and how they've navigated these. We also talk about the debate surrounding disability and abortion. Kelsey is so eloquent and passionate, we could have kept talking about this for hours. Let us know what you think of this episode. Get in touch on social media; Instagram and Facebook @TimeToTalkTFMR and Twitter @TalkTFMR Email is TalkTFMR@yahoo.com  

Welcome back! We're excited to announce that Antenatal Results & Choices is now a proud supporter of the Time To Talk TFMR podcast! ARC is the only UK, nationwide charity, offering non-directive, individualised information and support to parents who are making decisions around antenatal screening and diagnostic testing. They also provide specialized bereavement care for those who experience termination for medical reasons. For more information or support, please call ARC on 020 7713 7486 In today's episode, we are speaking with Amy and Rachel. Rachel carried and birthed a healthy baby boy for the couple in 2018. In 2020, Amy suffered a miscarriage and then a TFMR in 2021. They speak to us about how they have coped individually and as a couple through their TFMR process, what supported and helped them. Again, as with our other couples, they are very open and honest with us and we thank them for this - it's so useful to hear from both partners in TFMR, as it effects each person differently. We discuss little about the IVF process for them and how they are planning to move forward in trying to build their family. We hope you enjoy this episode. Let us know by either rating and reviewing us on Apple or Spotify, or you can email us at TalkTFMR@yahoo.com Don't forget to subscribe to the podcast, and follow us on social media. Instagram and Facebook @TimeToTalkTFMR and Twitter @TalkTFMR  

Here it is, season 3 finale! And it's a great episode.  Dr Julie Bindeman joins us from Maryland, USA. She is the co-founder of Integrative Therapy of Greater Washington and she specialises in reproductive and maternal mental health. Julie has had two TFMRs herself and she is especially interested in the phenomenon of Post Traumatic Growth. In order to talk about PTG, we had to talk about trauma and grief, and Julie gives us some really great insight into both of these human experiences and how they can play out in TFMR. Whether you are new in your TFMR journey or several years down the road, we think this episode will be a source of useful information and hope. You can find more about Julie's TFMR story here. Let us know what you think. You can email us at TalkTFMR@yahoo.com or please rate and review us on Apple Podcasts. You can follow us on social media. Instagram and Facebook: @TimeToTalkTFMR and Twitter: @TalkTFMR

Lucy Livesey is joining us today to talk about Mindfulness meditation and well-being during and after loss. Lucy is a mental health nurse and well-being practitioner and set up Relax with Lucy & Co. in 2017 after experiencing the death of her daughter Ellie in a TFMR. Just a little heads up, Hayley goes off on one and lets loose a couple of F-bombs - sorry about that! She was pretty pissed to hear how some people refuse to accept that ANYONE can be effected by baby loss (of any kind) and has a right to be well supported with compassionate care. We talk about how meditation, and specifically how mindfulness meditation, can help us through our grieving process and look after our mental well-being by teaching us to befriend even those very difficult emotions like fear and anger. Lucy tells us how her app, Ellie's Gift, helps to prepare expectant parents when they are facing the death of their baby to remain calm and relaxed through the birthing process. You can follow Lucy on Instagram @mindfulness_relaxwithlucyandco and @elliesgiftproject Follow us on Instagram and Facebook @TimeToTalkTFMR and Twitter @TalkTFMR Email us at TalkTFMR@yahoo.com And rate and review us on Apple Podcasts!  

Hello! We have another episode with a couple for our guests. This time it's with Mark and Angela Deeks. You hear from both of them about how the loss of their daughter, Laurie, to a TFMR effected them individually and as a couple. One of the things they speak so clearly about is how different their responses were to the news that Laurie was very poorly and that they would need to make a decision about whether or not to continue with the pregnancy. Angela seemed to accept, or understand better, the options available to them more easily than Mark. He struggled to understand what decisions they needed to make and why. This may speak to the fact that the care in these instances is heavily focused on mum and baby, rightly so, however, men, partners, can get lost in the maelstrom that unexpected and catastrophic news can bring. They may possibly be processing different emotions to those of their partners and need different types of information. Mark really noticed the lack of male voices in baby loss in general, but especially in TFMR. He decided he needed to do something about this and has been doing his bit to speak openly about what they've been through and how it's effected their lives. Follow them both on Instragram @markdeeksmusic and @angiemags We hope you enjoy hearing from another couple. Let us know. You can rate and review this podcast on Apple Podcasts, or send us a message via our social media channels. Facebook and Instagram is @TimeToTalkTFMR and Twitter is @TalkTFMR You can also email us at TalkTFMR@yahoo.com

In this special episode for Baby Loss Awareness Week, we're focussing once again on surgical termination. We're speaking with Jane Fisher from Antenatal Results & Choices (ARC) and Dr Patricia Lohr, Medical Director for the British Pregnancy Advisory Service (BPAS)  Also joining us are Sabrina Fletcher @thetfmrdoula, Emma Belle from @tfmrmamas and Paige Wissam @paigewissam. All three women have experienced a surgical termination. Jane and Patricia tell us about how BPAS took on the task of creating a TFMR pathway for those wanting/needing to access a ST and how there are more specialist hubs coming online within hospitals. These units will care for those women with medical conditions, meaning they can't be served by the independent sector. However, the hope/plan is that this will also serve those needing a TFMR as well. This means there will eventually be more doctors who can preform ST within the NHS, ensuring continuity of care for women and birthing people. They also bust the myths surrounding the debates around which is better for psychological well-being: surgical or medical termination. We'll leave it to you to listen to what they had to say about this...all we'll say is, it got passionate! As always, let us know your thoughts on what you hear. Email us at TalkTFMR@yahoo.com Follow us on Instagram and Facebook @TimeToTalkTFMR and Twitter @TalkTFMR And if you're feeling extra inspired, why not rate and review us on Apple Podcasts?  

Pregnancies with multiples are automatically classed as ‘high-risk'. It's important to highlight the heartbreak that these parents go through. There can be problems found with one or more babies, or the mothers health is at risk and they may be told to 'reduce the pregnancy', which is a TFMR. Priya joins us to talk about her and her husband, Ricky's, experience of finding out that they were expecting triplets - an exciting and joyous thing - to then finding out that the pregnancy was at risk and that they could lose all babies if they didn't make a decision to end the pregnancy for at least one of their babies. Priya openly talks to us about all her babies, Adhira, Adhiya and Ariya and we're so grateful to her for speaking with us. You can follow her on Instagram @our_one_of_three and read more about their story on her blog Our One of Three Let us know what you think of this episode. You can rate and review us on Apple Podcasts an email us at TalkTFMR@yahoo.com You can follow us on Instagram and Facebook @TimeToTalkTFMR and Twitter @TalkTFMR    

Hello! Thank you for joining us again. Today's episode is all about the immediate aftermath of TFMR. The emotional, physical and mental challenges. We're joined by Jane Fisher from Antenatal Results and Choices (Instagram @arcantenatal) and our resident specialist midwife, Sally Kelly AND several listeners of the podcast to ask their questions to the experts. Questions range from genetic testing to regrets surrounding surgical termination. This is the first time we've done an episode with so many voices and we think it works really well. It's great to open this up to be able to hear from more of you. Thank you to our listener guests: Jeannine Lucy Neal (Instagram @thegoldtoucan) Melanie Zamenhof (Instagram @mzamenhof) Cally Warren (Instagram @callywarren21) Thank you also to all of you who sent in your questions. Follow us on socials: Instagram and Facebook @TimeToTalkTFMR and Twitter @TalkTFMR. You can email us at TalkTFMR@yahoo.com Let us know what you think of this episode, we love to hear from you! And don't forget to rate and review us on Apple Podcasts too.  

In today's episode we're talking about trying to conceive (TTC) after TFMR with Dr Erica Rozmid. Erica is a clinical psychologist and uses cognitive behavioural and dialectical behavioural therapies (CBT & DBT) to help her clients with a range of mental health issues. Erica lost her daughter, Shayla to TFMR a few months ago and so has begun to use the techniques she teaches others on herself to help her through her TTC journey. This episode is full of laughing and a bit of swearing. Not because the subject is funny (it isn't, we know, we've been there too) - but we realised what crazy people we became when TTC after TFMR. Hopefully you will find this episode a bit like taking a big deep, cleansing breath and realise you are not alone in the craziness. Erica has some great tips for helping you through the anxiety and uncertainty. You can also find her on Instagram @TFMRpsychologist Let us know! Find us on Facebook and Instagram @TimeToTalkTFMR and Twitter @TalkTFMR. Or email us at TalkTFMR@yahoo.com. Don't forget to rate and review us on Apple podcast too!

Welcome back! In our opening episode for season three we speak with Emma & Gareth about their experience of a TFMR in October 2020. Many of you may already know Emma from her work through the @tfmrmamas Instagram page and website she created. We hear how Emma and Gareth have each dealt differently with their anxieties around having an IVF pregnancy, finding out that something was serious wrong with their baby, Willow and their subsequent grief in losing her. Gareth describes everything from his utter devastation, feelings of helplessness, through to his guilt at 'not being as upset as Emma'. They describe what many of us have experienced, the feeling of 'misalignment' in grief. But Emma's expression, 'Stay in your own lane' really helps to describe how to allow space for your own feelings and that of your partner. Emma also speaks with openness and honesty about her previous elective terminations in her late teens. She tells us how this impacted her thoughts and feelings around her TFMR and the work she had to do to accept all the buried feelings she had around these previous terminations. Get in touch by email talkTFMR@yahoo.com or social media, Instagram/Facebook @TimeToTalkTFMR or Twitter @TalkTFMR. Rate and review us on Apple Podcasts, we love to hear from you.        

In this special episode we're joined by Jane Fisher from Antenatal Results and Choices (ARC) to talk about the High-Court case heard last week (August 6, 2021) brought by three people against the UK government. They want a change in the abortion law to restrict access in post 24 week terminations for those fetus's/babies found to have a non-fatal disorder and specifically, those found to have Down syndrome (DS). We talk about the emotional impact seeing and hearing these views in the media and how a balanced view is often missing from these reports. We speak about why DS is used as the disorder of choice by the anti-choice side, where that came from and why. We also talk about abortion/termination more widely. Are we, inadvertently, creating a grief hierarchy within the termination community by stressing how much we wanted our babies, but that they were ill and so we decided to to end our pregnancy? What about those (healthy) women had healthy babies, but for whatever reason, they too decided to end their pregnancy? Are they allowed to feel grief? Are we allowed to feel relief? This is a lively and challenging discussion, and it won't be our last. If you have been affected by the reporting of the court case and need someone to talk (vent!) to, ARC is always there for you and so are we: Website: https://www.arc-uk.org/about-arc Telephone: 0207 713 7486 Email: info@arc-uk.org  

In today's episode we're talking with Dr Jessica Zucker. Jessica is a psychologist, writer and author specialising in reproductive and maternal mental health. She started the I Had A Miscarriage campaign in 2014 on Instagram after having her own second trimester miscarriage in 2012. She has just published a memoir of the same name. We talk to Jessica about her work with TFMR parents, how she feels about those who question her unwavering support and inclusion of TFMR as baby loss and why the wider baby loss community needs to include TFMR. Jessica tells us about her own baby loss experience and we talk about the 'what ifs' in her situation. This is a powerful episode and we hope you will feel empowered and validated by Jessica's words of support for TFMR parents.  You can follow Jessica on Instagram @ihadamiscarriage and you can find her book on Amazon US or Amazon UK Get in touch and let us know what you though of this episode. You can email us at talktfmr@yahoo.com or follow us on Instagram and Facebook @TimeToTalkTFMR or Twitter @TalkTFMR Don't forget to subscribe to the podcast and rate and review us on Apple!