The Back Pew

In this episode, Colton share's his struggles with mental health in the years after losing his father-in-law to suicide. They cover how to deal with anxiety, depression and helping friends in the midst of their "dark night of the soul."

Do you fight with your friends? If so, is it a death sentence for the relationship or is friction a sign of doing intentional life together? Dan & Colton discuss their differing experiences with friendships won and lost through conflict. 

Dan & Colton discuss their spiritual journey since starting The Back Pew five years ago. They discuss what beliefs they've kept, lost, or altered over the years especially in regards to their exodus from the mainstream evangelical culture. 

Is money the biggest divider between friendship circles? We discuss what it's like to be broke friends and what it's like when one friend is much better off financially. 

Would you ever end a friendship with someone you've known for years? What would it take? We talk about our experience drawing a hard line with people we love, but can't be friends with anymore. We also share what keeps a friend in our circle through even the toughest of times.

We had the chance to hide away in a cabin in the mountains for a couple days, and while we were there, we had a few very intimate “Fireside Chats” (not a sex joke). Obviously, due to current events (

Shalom Backsliders! This week, the boys kick it old school and get a lesson in their biblical roots with good friend and hilarious Jewish practitioner, Sean Thibault! Sean and the Gentiles talk about the importance of interpretation, what to make of our dude JC, and the possibility God may be asking to be ignored! Has Colton become too open-minded? Is Dan going straight to Hell?! This week, every topic is kosher, on The Back Pew! 

As-salāmu ʿalaykum, Back-Sliders! This week, the guys sit down for a great chat with Sarah, a bright, curious, educated young woman, who sounds like  your ordinary Southern California 20-year-old. Except for the fact she's about to run away from her Syrian, Muslim parents and their tight knit religious community. They discuss growing up in the faith, the links between culture and religion, and the taboo of asking hard questions. What do we mean when we say, “God is love?” Can belief evolve with a young person as they grow? Can the guys recover when Sarah is too young to remember one of the greatest boy bands of all time? This week, more unites than divides, on The Back Pew!

Pastor Jeffrey Draine is back at it again! Trying to the land the plane as best he can, Pastor Draine hits some turbulence on the way down in this bumpy conclusion to the big Christmas Eve sermon. How do you make enough contemporary references to let people know they're always welcome here? The answer - Kenny G. Let's wrap up this season three intermission with some closing thoughts parishioners!

Season three of The Back Pew breaks for intermission as Worship Leader Jeffrey Draine leads us through his first attempt at spontaneous worship. #WWJD #SoulDraine #PraiseBe

The fellas sit down for a heart-to-heart with a devoted and inspiring man of faith, Ryan Ditty. They discuss the realities of fighting stage 4 pancreatic cancer, the perils of a bad HMO, accepting miraculous generosity, and other "ethereal" topics like true love & eternity.  Is there scientific proof that faith can heal our bodies? How should one update social media in the face of the worst? And does your geography really determine your destiny? The guys are honored to have a deep talk about running on faith when luck runs out, this week on The Back Pew.

The Fellas welcome magician, writer, and benevolent non-believer Travis Sentell to The Back Pew! They discuss being a gracious atheist, respecting faiths you don't hold, and the cold, hard psychology behind catching the Holy Ghost! Will Dan determine his spiritual life has just been a result of his neurobiology?  Will Colton get Travis to reveal magic secrets?  Black swans, brain science, and the observable world in between, all in this week's epsidoe of the Back Pew!

The dudes welcome up-and-coming musician (and Matthew McConaughy collaborator), Davie to the congregation! They discuss shared Pentecostal roots, the pressures of being a preacher's son, and whether or not the prosperity gospel is as harmful as you may have heard. Can Colton and Dan be prophets?  Can pop music save souls? Why does Davie like Chris Stapleton so much? Grab a seat and a paper fan, because we're going to Church!

Dan & Colton welcome Grace Baldridge, host of Refinery29's "State of Grace" docuseries, to the podcast in their premiere episode of season three. This interview is a follow-up to State of Grace's episode on megachurch transparency, in which Mosaic Church in Hollywood, CA became a central focus of their story after Grace discovered an overwhelming community of ex-Mosaic attendees who say LGBTQ members are not fully affirmed at Mosaic despite their public message of universal acceptance. You can find the original story on Refinery29's YouTube channel, or by clicking the link here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLuB7fvMlhc&t=544s

Colton Simmons briefly introduces the new Enneagram series by addressing some of the common misconceptions about the Enneagram, the power of personalities, and a few disclaimers about how the Enneagram should & will be utilized by us at The Back Pew. 

Danielle Bennett returns to The Back Pew to explain the origins of the Enneagram, how it's shape informs it's function, and the deeper purpose behind learning these nine personality types.    Enneagram references from: The Wisdom of the Enneagram and The Enneagram Institute all created by Riso & Hudson. 

Audrey Smith breaks down the Enneagram Type 2: "The Helper" and shares her personal experience as a 2.  Enneagram references from: The Wisdom of the Enneagram and The Enneagram Institute all created by Riso & Hudson. 

Danielle Bennett breaks down the Enneagram Type 3: "The Achiever" and shares her personal experience as a 3.  Enneagram references from: The Wisdom of the Enneagram and The Enneagram Institute all created by Riso & Hudson. 

Dan Prevette breaks down the Enneagram Type 4: "The Individualst" and shares his personal experience as a 4.  Enneagram references from: The Wisdom of the Enneagram and The Enneagram Institute all created by Riso & Hudson. 

Robin Lommori breaks down the Enneagram Type 5: "The Investigator" and shares her personal experience as a 5.  Enneagram references from: The Wisdom of the Enneagram and The Enneagram Institute all created by Riso & Hudson.     

Erica de los Reyes breaks down the Enneagram Type 6: "The Loyalist" and shares her personal experience as a 6.  Enneagram references from: The Wisdom of the Enneagram and The Enneagram Institute all created by Riso & Hudson.     

Jake Viramontez and Travis Lutz tag team a break down of the Enneagram Type 7: "The Enthusiast" and share their personal experience as 7s.  Enneagram references from: The Wisdom of the Enneagram and The Enneagram Institute all created by Riso & Hudson.

Jacob Patrick breaks down the Enneagram Type 8: "The Challenger" and shares his personal experience as an 8.  Enneagram references from: The Wisdom of the Enneagram and The Enneagram Institute all created by Riso & Hudson.     

Jess Ream breaks down the Enneagram Type 9: "The Peacemaker" and shares her personal experience as a 9.  Enneagram references from: The Wisdom of the Enneagram and The Enneagram Institute all created by Riso & Hudson.     

Colton Simmons breaks down the Enneagram Type 1: "The Reformer" and shares his personal experience as a 1.  Enneagram references from: The Wisdom of the Enneagram and The Enneagram Institute all created by Riso & Hudson.     

Dr. Kutter Callaway, Danielle Bennett, Dan Prevette, and Colton Simmons tackle the idolatry of marriage in the Christian Church, bad dating advice, and much more at The Back Pew's first ever LIVE show! Special thanks to our host David Magidoff and the Backyard Hang crew. If you're in the Los Angeles area and would like to attend future live events like this one, email backyardhangs@gmail.com to get on the mailing list.  Dr. Kutter Callaway's book Breaking the Marriage Idol can be purchased today on Amazon.com and Danielle Bennett's poetry can be found on www.missdaniellebennett.com 

The fellas talk misogyny, fragile masculinity, and Mars Attacks! with professional radio personality Alex Gervasi.    

Danielle Bennett is a poet, educator, and true sage of a woman who has journeyed through a diverse collection of both pulpits and pews.  She drops wisdom on everything from transcending the racial divide in America, to women in leadership, to leaving then cultivating spiritual communities.  You can see all things related to Danielle's performances and book her to speak at your next event at missdaniellebennett.com

The fellas sit down with Rev. Gideon Mbui to hear about his experiences navigating American culture, figure out who in the world is leading the way - spiritualy speaking, and get a rural African's perspective on what Church is & should be. 

The fellas get deep into the future and foibles of modern day religious movements around the world with a member of the mafia turned international missionary, aka Dan's dad aka Dr. Prevette aka Oxford Seminary Professor and Back Pew Lifetime Acheivement Award Winner.

Staley Jophiel Munroe is a front pew kind of Christian with a back pew kind of story. She's a gorgeous transgender woman who has experienced being on the fringe of both religious and LGBTQ communities. In this episode, the fellas take some bullets for the “cisnormative community” as they stumble through the complex yet wonderful process of embracing their transgender brothers & sisters. Breakdowns include an eloquent vocabulary lesson from Dan & an exploration of how the book of Genesis can be used to understand God's intention for human nature by Colton. Enjoy!

  Sex. Everybody has a story about their first time, or lack there of.  In this episode, the fellas get real intimate about the way purity culture has shaped their lives for the good or the bad with special guest Johan Khalilian, who shares the story of his transition away from being the abstinance-advocating, youth motivatational speaker and into a life filled with far more questions about how, why and IF one should continue to wait for sex after losing their virginity. 

The dudes talk to transformational life coach Janet Wood about jumping in, flailing around, and learning the hard way that sometimes the love we need the most is our own. Key Topics: Christian Marriages, Affairs, Divorce, Life Coaching, Healing, and True Vulnerability.  

The guys get raw and real about the modern millennial church, why feelings aren't everything, and why be Christians at all. Barry Taylor found his faith on The Highway To Hell working as the sound engineer for AC/DC. Since then, his journey through Christian culture has led him to Fuller Theological Seminary where he earned his PhD and currently teaches several courses on the arts, pop-culture, and how people in the Church can remain relevant to the rest of the world. His perspective is as far outside the mainstream as it gets, and his ability to synthesize a diverse set of seemingly contradictory worldviews is unparalleled. Barry coauthored A Matrix of Meanings: Finding God in Pop Culture and A Heretic's Guide to Eternity. His latest book, Entertainment Theology: New Edge Spirituality in a Digital Democracy, was published in 2008.

We bring Dei & Tawanna back for PART II to talk about the complex differences between seemingly parallel civil rights movements rooted in race, gender, religion and sexuality. We also take a deep dive into what the Bible says about homosexuality and examine the historical persecution of the LGBTQ community. 

In PART I of our time with Dei Thompson & Tawanna Benbow, we sit down for cocktails to discuss racial tension between black & white people, the Christian faith within an African American context, and how earnest white folks should respond to the current civil rights movement.   In PART II [coming soon] we will discuss homosexuality & gender as it relates to both black & white religious communities.

Comedian, podcaster, and transcendental question asker Joe Quint sits down with us to discuss Zen Buddhism, hallucinogenics, and why any of us need Jesus at all.   Mysticism Matcha & Social Activism rooted in spiritual practices are also of primary concern in this episode.    Enjoy!

We sit down with musician, husband, and former worship leader David Greco to discuss church leadership, crisis of faith, and just what the hell three white, male Americans have to be so darn bummed out about.