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Marcos Canales is the pastor of La Fuente Ministries, a bilingual, intercultural congregation in Pasadena, California, and a PhD student at Fuller Theological Seminary. In this conversation, Markus Watson and Marcos talk about ministry in a community reeling from both the Eaton fire and ongoing ICE enforcement, why Marcos describes it as an enforcement of terror, what a robust theology of suffering looks like, and how churches removed from the front lines can stand in solidarity without centering themselves. THIS EPISODE'S HIGHLIGHTS INCLUDE: Why Marcos describes current immigration enforcement as an enforcement of terror, and how it echoes the violence many Latin American families fled. How the Eaton fire and ICE operations compounded trauma in Pasadena and Altadena within a single month. Bilingual ministry as a daily practice of rehumanization. Why theologies that rush people toward superficial hope end up wounding them more. Gustavo Gutiérrez's reading of Job and the call to keep talking to God in the midst of suffering. The risen Jesus who never hides his wounds, and what that means for wounded leaders. Grief stations, gratitude, and building a congregational culture where lament is a spiritual practice. Resistance and re-existence, from prayer vigils to letters for people detained at Adelanto. Four concrete steps for majority-white churches that want to stand with immigrant neighbors. Marcos closes the conversation by praying the Immigrant's Creed. RELEVANT RESOURCES AND LINKS: Marcos Canales: La Fuente Ministries More about La Fuente Ministries Giving opportunities for migrant solidarity: Clergy Community Coalition La Fuente Ministries Compassion Fund (choose "LFM Compasión-Compassion Fund") Books mentioned: On Job: God-Talk and the Suffering of the Innocent, by Gustavo Gutiérrez The New Jim Crow: Mass Incarceration in the Age of Colorblindness, by Michelle Alexander Other resources: The Immigrant's Creed / El Credo del Inmigrante, by Rev. José Luis Casal, director of Presbyterian World Mission RELATED EPISODES: Episode 143: How the Church Can Respond to Immigration, with Karen Gonzalez, author of Beyond Welcome Episode 268: Borderless Faith, with Seth Clark, lead pastor of The Border Church Episode 287: Leadership and Lament, a Quick Conversation with Tod Bolsinger and Markus Watson Send me a text! I'd love to know what you're thinking!Click HERE to get my FREE online course, BECOMING LEADERS OF SHALOM.
Justin welcomes back W. David O. Taylor, theologian, author, and professor at Fuller Theological Seminary, for a conversation about art, faith, and the vocation of the artist.They begin with David's own creative process and his somewhat unexpected path toward becoming a writer. David talks about learning to write in public, studying writers whose craft he admired, and discovering that while he loves writing, the classroom remains one of the places where he feels most alive.From there, the conversation widens into the theological questions at the heart of David's work: Why does art matter? What role does an artist play in the life of the church and the world? And why have Christian communities so often struggled to understand creative work that doesn't fit neatly into categories like worship, ministry, or evangelism?Justin and David explore the ways art can invite rather than dictate, how beauty can reach beyond preference, and why the familiar distinction between “sacred” and “secular” may be far less useful than we think.David ultimately offers artists a larger vision of calling: creative work can participate in God's love for the world without needing to become explicitly religious or justify itself through measurable outcomes.As David puts it near the end of the conversation: artists can get on with the thing they've been called to do, doing it well, humbly, and joyfully, trusting that over a lifetime, goodness will come from it. Links For Justin:Read Justin's SubstackOrder In The Low - NEW Book with Scott EricksonCoaching with JustinOrder In Rest - New Book of PoemsOrder Sacred StridesJustinMcRoberts.comSupport this podcastNEW Single - Let GoNEW Music - Sliver of HopeNEW Music - The Dood and The BirdThe Book - It Is What You Make itHearts and Minds Amazon Barnes and Noble
Today's Guests: Bruce Antkowiak - Professor of Law at Saint Vincent College and attorney W. David O. Taylor - Associate professor of Theology and Culture at Fuller Theological Seminary as well as writer, author, as producer of a short film Hannah Long - Writer and editorSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Today's Guests: Bruce Antkowiak - Professor of Law at Saint Vincent College and attorney W. David O. Taylor - Associate professor of Theology and Culture at Fuller Theological Seminary as well as writer, author, as producer of a short film Hannah Long - Writer and editorSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
In this special Youth Ministry Unscripted Series looking at the past 25 years of youth ministry and the future 25 years of youth ministry, Cameron and Danny sit down with Dr. Kara Powell, Executive Director of the Fuller Youth Institute and Professor of Youth and Family at Fuller Theological Seminary. They discuss Dr. Powell's assessment on the past and future of youth ministry, including Fuller Youth Institute's new research on Generation Alpha. Kara Powell, PhD, is the Executive Director of the Fuller Youth Institute (FYI), the founder of the TENx10 Collaboration, the Chief of Leadership Formation at Fuller Theological Seminary, and serves as a faculty member at Fuller Seminary. Prior to that, Kara was an Assistant Professor of Youth Ministry and Practical Theology at Azusa Pacific University. She completed her PhD in Practical Theology from Fuller Seminary with a focus on Pastoral Role Expectations in 2000, an MDiv from Bethel Theological Seminary in 1994, and a BA in human biology, graduating with Honors from Stanford University in 1991.Podcasts - Youth Ministry Through the Years Ask Rooted: How Do You Shift to Gospel-Centered Youth Ministry? The FYI on Gen Alpha: New Research and… | Fuller Youth Institute Follow the YMU podcast and download it wherever you find your podcastsRegister for the Rooted 2026 Conference in Nashville, Oct. 22nd to 24th. Hosted by: Danny Kwon, author of Teenagers and Mental Health; Becca Heck, M. Div. from Reformed Theological Seminary; Isaiah Marshall, Rooted's Director of Ministry Development; and Josh Hussung, M. Div. in Pastor Studies from the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary.
Gavin Ortlund defends the Protestant view that Christians should pray to God alone, examining the biblical, theological, Jewish, and historical evidence surrounding the practice of praying to the saints.Truth Unites (https://truthunites.org) exists to promote gospel assurance through theological depth. Gavin Ortlund (PhD, Fuller Theological Seminary) is President of Truth Unites, Visiting Professor of Historical Theology at Phoenix Seminary, and Theologian-in-Residence at Immanuel Nashville.SUPPORT:Tax Deductible Support: https://truthunites.org/donate/Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/truthunitesFOLLOW:Website: https://truthunites.org/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/truth.unites/X: https://x.com/gavinortlundFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/TruthUnitesPage/
Gavin Ortlund explores what the Bible teaches about spiritual gifts and how they help build up the church in unity, maturity, and gospel-centered love.Truth Unites (https://truthunites.org) exists to promote gospel assurance through theological depth. Gavin Ortlund (PhD, Fuller Theological Seminary) is President of Truth Unites, Visiting Professor of Historical Theology at Phoenix Seminary, and Theologian-in-Residence at Immanuel Nashville.SUPPORT:Tax Deductible Support: https://truthunites.org/donate/Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/truthunitesFOLLOW:Website: https://truthunites.org/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/truth.unites/X: https://x.com/gavinortlundFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/TruthUnitesPage/
Gavin Ortlund examines the Protestant case for praying to God alone, responding to biblical, historical, and practical arguments for asking the saints in heaven for their intercession.Truth Unites (https://truthunites.org) exists to promote gospel assurance through theological depth. Gavin Ortlund (PhD, Fuller Theological Seminary) is President of Truth Unites, Visiting Professor of Historical Theology at Phoenix Seminary, and Theologian-in-Residence at Immanuel Nashville.SUPPORT:Tax Deductible Support: https://truthunites.org/donate/Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/truthunitesFOLLOW:Website: https://truthunites.org/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/truth.unites/X: https://x.com/gavinortlundFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/TruthUnitesPage/
What does it look like to lead the way Jesus did — through the cross, not around it? Host Joy Fea welcomes Rev. Dr. Nicole Massie Martin, President and CEO of Christianity Today, to talk about her book Nailing It: Why Successful Leadership Demands Suffering and Surrender. Together, they explore what people really need from a leader, why perfectionism isn't the same as excellence, how power works for women with and without a title, and why loyalty can quietly become an idol. Nicole also shares what “cruciform leadership” looks like on an ordinary Tuesday, and what she'd tell her twentysomething self about ambition, insecurity, and calling.WHAT YOU WILL LEARNWhy transparency — not just confidence — is what makes a leader trustworthy, and how naming the “turbulence” ahead of time actually builds a team's confidence rather than undermining it.What Nicole's book title actually means: leadership “suffering” isn't suffering for its own sake — it's dying to ego, control, and ambition so that something greater can be resurrected through you.How to recognize when perfectionism, not excellence, is driving your leadership (and your parenting) — and why anything involving other people can never be perfect.The difference between operating with excellence and operating to prove your worth — and why God's approval, not your output, is the more stable foundation.A framework for understanding power beyond your job title: legitimate, expert, informational, referential, and reward power, and how to identify and use whatever power you actually have.How to tell the difference between healthy, Christ-centered loyalty and loyalty that has quietly become an idol — and why toxic leaders are usually surrounded by loyal followers who are afraid to speak up.What women uniquely bring to leadership when they're free to lead from who God made them to be, rather than compensating for who they're told they aren't.What “cruciform leadership” looks like in practice — a daily, repeated act of surrendering your schedule, your meetings, and your outcomes to God rather than white-knuckling your way through them.How Nicole leads a 70-year-old media ministry without becoming captive to its legacy — maintaining Christianity Today's founding mission while letting its expression evolve.Nicole's advice to young leaders on discerning calling: focus on your strengths rather than fixing your weaknesses, and hold your context loosely — your calling is bigger than any one role.ABOUT OUR GUEST Reverend Doctor Nicole Massie Martin was born and educated in Baltimore, Maryland. She graduated magna cum laude from Vanderbilt University with a triple major in Human and Organizational Development, Educational Studies, and French. Dr. Martin received her Master of Divinity from Princeton Theological Seminary and earned a Doctor of Ministry from Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary.Dr. Martin is the founder and Executive Director of Soulfire International Ministries, which accelerates thriving for pastors, churches, and younger leaders. She has decades of executive leadership experience in the church and Christian non-profits and is currently serving as the President and Chief Executive Officer of Christianity Today. She is also active in her local congregation, Kingdom Fellowship AME Church, in Maryland.Prior to her role at Christianity Today, Dr. Martin has served in a variety of leadership and executive capacities, including as the Senior Vice President of Ministry Impact at the American Bible Society, as Executive Minister at The Park Church, and Assistant Professor of Ministry and Leadership Development at Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary in Charlotte, NC.Dr. Martin is a gifted writer and author of numerous articles and three books: Made to Lead: Empowering Women for Ministry, Leaning In, Letting Go: A Lenten Devotional, and Nailing It: Why Successful Leadership Demands Suffering and Surrender. She serves on the executive council of the National Association of Evangelicals, the Board of Trustees at Fuller Theological Seminary, and on the National Advisory Council for the Salvation Army. She is a founding board member of the Center for Christianity and Public Life and has been inducted into the esteemed Board of Preachers at Morehouse College.Dr. Martin is married to her best friend, Dr. Mark Martin, and they have two amazing daughters, Addison and Josephine.Send us Fan MailCONNECT WITH USSubscribe to The UpWords Podcast wherever you listen to podcasts and visit slbf.org/studio to learn more about our work at the intersection of faith, the academy, and the marketplace.This episode was created by the SLBF STUDIO at Upper House.Produced by Daniel Johnson and Dave ConourEdited by Dave Conour
In this episode, Regent grad and artist-pastor-theologian David Taylor shares insights on the relationship between art, theology, and vocation, drawn from over thirty years of theological reflection and ministry with artists. Beginning with his reflections on how Regent College influenced his understanding of art and theology, David then discusses core aspects of the book: the importance of belovedness in vocation, who gets to call themselves an artist, and the historical shift from artisans to artists and creative entrepreneurs. He also reflects theologically on the role of the Holy Spirit in artistic creation, and the limitations and constraints placed on creative work modelled in the life of Jesus. David also shares the formational aspects of being an artist, including practices for combating creative stagnation and the importance of doing art in community. Finally, he shares the missional purpose of art-making in a world on fire: home-making, which points us to the truer story in which we are living.David's BioW. David O. Taylor is Associate Professor of Theology and Culture at Fuller Theological Seminary, an Anglican priest, and an internationally recognized scholar of theology, worship, and the arts. He has written books including Open and Unafraid, Glimpses of the New Creation, and Prayers for the Pilgrimage. His newest book, To Set the World Aflame: How Artists Bear Witness to the Fullness of God's Creation, draws on more than three decades of pastoral ministry, theological scholarship, and collaboration with artists around the world. Previous Podcast AppearancesOn the Arts and Worship (September 2017)The Formative Power of the Arts (November 2019)Broken Raging Hearts Before God (February 2021)Regent College PodcastThanks for listening. Please like, rate and review us on your podcast platform of choice and share this episode with a friend. Follow Us on Social MediaFacebookInstagramYoutubeKeep in TouchRegent CollegeThe Regent VineSummer ProgramsRegent College NewsletterSupport UsGive Back
In February 2026, Jeanelle Austin filed for Minnesota Senate District 62. She started canvassing her district during a polar vortex, and persisted through triple-digit summer heat. And in August she lost in the Democratic Primary. In this episode, she sits down with Mark Labberton to reflect on what this experience has taught her about power, democracy, and what citizenship and neighbor-love means in the South Minneapolis neighborhood where she grew up. The executive director of Rise & Remember—the nonprofit that preserves the memorial at George Floyd Square—Austin followed a conviction, that if running for office meant she could save just one person's life, she would do it. She reflects on what it means to "run for something rather than against someone," the win-win campaign she designed by first answering what she would do with power if she lost, and the democratic machinery most voters never see: caucuses, delegates, conventions, endorsements, and party mailers that carry only the endorsed name. She reveals the shadow side of running against an incumbent in her own party: friends who could not endorse her, the party regular who said challengers to progressive incumbents should be punished, the front-porch conversations, the youth-built platform she carried to a rural Republican youth group, and the value a campaign loss is still worth when first-time voters turn out. Episode Highlights "I remember telling myself I would run for office if it meant that I could save somebody's life." "My dearest friends advised me to not run against someone, but to run for something … this was the first moment where I felt like I would be running for something, and something that really mattered." "I also understood that my power did not come from this seat. My power came from my community, my family, my cultural identity." "This is my home. This is where I grew up. This is my neighborhood. These are my people." "Is it not our responsibility to lift up our best leaders and choose from among them? We are oftentimes choosing between the lesser of two evils." "What are you willing to give up if you say that you love us as your neighbor?" "We have the power as people to make this democracy what we need it to be. But we first have to believe in ourselves." About Jeanelle Austin Jeanelle Austin is executive director and co-founder of Rise & Remember, the Minneapolis nonprofit that preserves thousands of offerings left at George Floyd Square, where she also serves as lead memorial caretaker. She founded Racial Agency Initiative, a racial justice leadership coaching practice, in 2019. She holds a BA in Christian ministries from Messiah College and an MDiv in ethics and an MA in intercultural studies from Fuller Theological Seminary. In 2026 she ran in the DFL primary for Minnesota Senate District 62. The fourth of seven children, she grew up in Minneapolis's Bryant neighborhood, just blocks from the site of George Floyd's killing at 38th and Chicago Avenue. Helpful Links and Resources Jeanelle For The People, Austin's 2026 campaign site: https://jeanelleforthepeople.com/ Rise & Remember, the nonprofit Austin directs: https://riseandremember.org/about/ A timeline of Operation Metro Surge, Minnesota Reformer: https://minnesotareformer.com/2026/02/20/a-chronology-of-operation-metro-surge/ Show Notes Jeanelle's pilgrimage in Palestine with a Black religious scholars delegation; meeting a father in the West Bank whose fifteen-year-old son was imprisoned for throwing rocks "Run for something, not against someone." What it means to a run a "win-win campaign," designed after being advised to decide what she would do with power if she lost How power is located in community, family, and cultural identity rather than in a state senate seat What it was like to challenge a beloved incumbent inside your own party Caucusing for the first time, room to room, learning the process in real time Jeanelle's campaign backdrop: Operation Metro Surge, polar vortex, No Kings protests Her journey from caucus to delegate to convention to endorsement to party resources Pre-recruited delegates and the structural advantage of incumbency; party mailers that carry only the endorsed candidate's name Section 8 notice periods and the gap that produces homelessness Youth-built priorities carried an hour west to a Republican youth group Gun safety, neighbor-love, rural versus urban gun culture Food shelves versus food stamps, and the question of dignity Primary night at the People's Way, turn out for first-time local voters Giving power back by teaching neighbors how to run for political office #JeanelleAustin #GeorgeFloydSquare #Minneapolis #RunForOffice #Democracy #CivicEngagement #FaithAndPolitics #Conversing Production Credits Conversing is produced and distributed in partnership with Comment Magazine and Fuller Seminary.
Gavin Ortlund explores five major trends reshaping Christian apologetics today and considers how Christians can respond faithfully and effectively in a rapidly changing cultural landscape.Truth Unites (https://truthunites.org) exists to promote gospel assurance through theological depth. Gavin Ortlund (PhD, Fuller Theological Seminary) is President of Truth Unites, Visiting Professor of Historical Theology at Phoenix Seminary, and Theologian-in-Residence at Immanuel Nashville.SUPPORT:Tax Deductible Support: https://truthunites.org/donate/Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/truthunitesFOLLOW:Website: https://truthunites.org/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/truth.unites/X: https://x.com/gavinortlundFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/TruthUnitesPage/
In this episode, W. David O. Taylor joins me to talk about To Set the World Aflame and the artist's calling to bear witness to the fullness of God's creation. Artists work with the sensory, the imaginative, the emotional, the metaphorical, the material stuff of the world, and in doing so they help the rest of us see what's actually there. We talk about what an artist really is, why belovedness comes before output, and how the calling has shifted across centuries without losing its center. We linger on abundance: seven thousand kinds of apples, more wine than anyone could drink, a God who delights in more than enough.W. David O. Taylor is Associate Professor of Theology & Culture at Fuller Theological Seminary and the author of ten books, including For the Beauty of the Church: Casting a Vision for the Arts and To Set the World Aflame: How Artists Bear Witness to the Fullness of God's Creation. An Anglican priest, he has written for The Washington Post, The Gospel Coalition, Religion News Service, and Christianity Today, among others, and has contributed scholarly essays to the T&T Clark Companion to Theology and the Arts, Theology, Modernity and the Visual Arts, and Contemporary Art and the Church. He served on the board of Christians in the Visual Arts and is part of a three-year scholarly project, "Theology and the Visual Arts," hosted by King's College London. He lives on twenty-one acres of land east of Austin with his artist wife (Phaedra) and children. He posts about art and faith on Substack (@wdavidotaylor) and Instagram (@davidtaylor_theologian).David's Book:To Set the World AflameConnect with Joshua: jjohnson@shiftingculturepodcast.comGo to www.shiftingculturepodcast.com to interact and donate. Every donation helps to produce more podcasts for you to enjoy.Follow on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, Threads, Bluesky or YouTubeSupport the podcast and the ministry that my wife and I do around the world. Just click on the support the show link below Support the show
Send us Fan MailUta Schmidt — leadership researcher, professor at Fuller Theological Seminary, and author of Dream Chasers — talks about what separates leaders who fulfill their ultimate vision from those who fall short. Drawing on interviews with Desmond Tutu, Les Brown, Andrew White, and six other high-profile leaders, Schmidt explores the "preparation process" behind every great achievement: the storms, betrayals, and valleys that 80% of visionaries never learn to navigate. Come Home to Yourself Where healing becomes a holistic, embodied way of being via reflection, ritual and releaseListen on: Apple Podcasts SpotifySupport the show
Gavin Ortlund examines John Calvin's role in the execution of Michael Servetus and considers what this dark episode in church history can teach us about religious coercion, humility, and the Christian call to respond to error with witness rather than violence.Truth Unites (https://truthunites.org) exists to promote gospel assurance through theological depth. Gavin Ortlund (PhD, Fuller Theological Seminary) is President of Truth Unites, Visiting Professor of Historical Theology at Phoenix Seminary, and Theologian-in-Residence at Immanuel Nashville.SUPPORT:Tax Deductible Support: https://truthunites.org/donate/Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/truthunitesFOLLOW:Website: https://truthunites.org/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/truth.unites/X: https://x.com/gavinortlundFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/TruthUnitesPage/
Gavin Ortlund examines the ten worst arguments against Protestantism and highlights three of the strongest challenges Protestants should take seriously, including the canon, fragmentation, and appeals to antiquity and ecclesial authority.Truth Unites (https://truthunites.org) exists to promote gospel assurance through theological depth. Gavin Ortlund (PhD, Fuller Theological Seminary) is President of Truth Unites, Visiting Professor of Historical Theology at Phoenix Seminary, and Theologian-in-Residence at Immanuel Nashville.SUPPORT:Tax Deductible Support: https://truthunites.org/donate/Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/truthunitesFOLLOW:Website: https://truthunites.org/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/truth.unites/X: https://x.com/gavinortlundFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/TruthUnitesPage/
Gavin Ortlund compares Lutheran and Reformed views of Chalcedonian Christology, examining how each tradition understands the relationship between Christ's divine and human natures and the question of whether divine attributes like omnipresence can be communicated to Christ's humanity.Truth Unites (https://truthunites.org) exists to promote gospel assurance through theological depth. Gavin Ortlund (PhD, Fuller Theological Seminary) is President of Truth Unites, Visiting Professor of Historical Theology at Phoenix Seminary, and Theologian-in-Residence at Immanuel Nashville.SUPPORT:Tax Deductible Support: https://truthunites.org/donate/Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/truthunitesFOLLOW:Website: https://truthunites.org/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/truth.unites/X: https://x.com/gavinortlundFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/TruthUnitesPage/
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Gavin Ortlund explores whether the Song of Songs is about human sexuality, God's love, or both, showing how this often-misunderstood biblical book points to the beauty of marriage and ultimately to Christ.Truth Unites (https://truthunites.org) exists to promote gospel assurance through theological depth. Gavin Ortlund (PhD, Fuller Theological Seminary) is President of Truth Unites, Visiting Professor of Historical Theology at Phoenix Seminary, and Theologian-in-Residence at Immanuel Nashville.SUPPORT:Tax Deductible Support: https://truthunites.org/donate/Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/truthunitesFOLLOW:Website: https://truthunites.org/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/truth.unites/X: https://x.com/gavinortlundFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/TruthUnitesPage/
Today's Guests: Richard Mouw - Professor of Faith and Public Life, past President at Fuller Theological Seminary, and author Lauren Lintner - "What to Watch" Paul McNulty - Previously an attorney in public service/private practice, Deputy of Attorney General, and President at Grove City College Dean Weaver - Stated Clerk of the Evangelical Presbyterian Church and co-founder/former president of EduNations ("Week in Review" special guest)See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Gavin Ortlund asks whether evangelicalism can be repaired and presents five pathways for moving forward, including a renewed focus on the gospel, deeper Christian worship, healthier pastoral culture, stronger community, and partnerships across denominational lines.Truth Unites (https://truthunites.org) exists to promote gospel assurance through theological depth. Gavin Ortlund (PhD, Fuller Theological Seminary) is President of Truth Unites, Visiting Professor of Historical Theology at Phoenix Seminary, and Theologian-in-Residence at Immanuel Nashville.SUPPORT:Tax Deductible Support: https://truthunites.org/donate/Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/truthunitesFOLLOW:Website: https://truthunites.org/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/truth.unites/X: https://x.com/gavinortlundFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/TruthUnitesPage/
For millions of people across the world, Sarah Kelly Young was the author of their favorite devotional series: Jesus Calling. Millions were encouraged and inspired by her words, and many continue to discover her work to this day. The impact she made on the world, and continues to make, is very personal to Timothy. He had the rare privilege of walking closely with his sister Sarah across every era of her life, and now, he wants to honor her legacy with the truth behind the scenes. Sarah Young's Journey to Jesus Bruce T Davis Tim Kelly TIMOTHY (TIM) KELLY earned an MA in theology and pastoral counseling from Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary and a PhD in clinical psychology from Vanderbilt University. His career calling has included faculty appointments, senior governmental positions, and psychological care for those in need. Timothy has served on the faculty of several universities, including as Associate Professor of Clinical Psychology and Director of Clinical Training at Fuller Theological Seminary in Pasadena, CA. He has published opinion editorials in the Washington Post and has been interviewed on NPR radio. Timothy is happily married to a very successful professional musician and is himself a guitarist and singer. They make their home in Franklin, Tennessee—not far from where Timothy's sister Sarah Young is buried. Tim's WebsiteWhitaker HouseSarah Young Website
Gavin Ortlund discusses Bart Ehrman's agreement with Wes Huff on the remarkable stability of the textual transmission of the book of Isaiah, and argues for a more fair and charitable approach to evaluating Christian apologetics, scholarship, and counter-apologetics.Truth Unites (https://truthunites.org) exists to promote gospel assurance through theological depth. Gavin Ortlund (PhD, Fuller Theological Seminary) is President of Truth Unites, Visiting Professor of Historical Theology at Phoenix Seminary, and Theologian-in-Residence at Immanuel Nashville.SUPPORT:Tax Deductible Support: https://truthunites.org/donate/Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/truthunitesFOLLOW:Website: https://truthunites.org/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/truth.unites/X: https://x.com/gavinortlundFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/TruthUnitesPage/
Can the church learn to follow the Spirit into places it hasn't been looking? In this episode of Thinking Christian, Dr. James Spencer and Dr. Ashish Varma sit down with Dr. Oscar Garcia-Johnson — Professor of Theology and Decolonial Studies at Fuller Theological Seminary and author of Spirit Outside the Gate: Decolonial Pneumatologies of the American Global South — for a conversation that will stretch your theological imagination in the best possible way. Oscar unpacks why the Holy Spirit resists every attempt at domestication, why Pentecost was never about cosmetic diversity, and why genuine Christian maturity looks less like doctrinal confidence and more like humble, attentive discernment. Drawing from scripture, church history, and his own journey as a pastor-scholar moving between the church, the academy, and the city, Oscar challenges the "canonical imagination of the West" — not to reject Christian theology, but to reroute it toward a more faithful, Spirit-led witness in a global, pluralistic world. If you've ever felt the tension between theological certainty and genuine openness to what God is doing in surprising places, this episode is for you. Key Takeaways: Why pneumatology (the study of the Holy Spirit) naturally resists the same gating mechanisms that Christology can fall prey to The difference between relativism and Spirit-led discernment — and why Oscar is firmly not a relativist How the Tower of Babel and Pentecost represent two competing logics still at work in the church today What "terminal knowledge" is and how the Spirit is actively healing it in marginalized communities Why true Christian maturity is relational and active — not self-referential How to ask "Where is God?" instead of only "Where is the devil?" when encountering other cultures and traditions The connection between Acts 7, the Jerusalem Council, and Spirit-led openness to the Gentiles Oscar's new book Decolonial Love in Times of Hatred: 40 Ways to Follow Jesus Today Get early access and a bonus with a Patreon membership. Subscribe to our YouTube channel To read James's article on this topic, check out his author page on Christianity.com.
What is it that actually forms our inner reality? Our values, our perspective, our judgment, our understanding of wisdom about the issues that really matter? What difference does that make in Christian character formation? The American church consistently produces fruit that many of its own leaders either don't recognize, don't want, or disapprove of. Under- and malformed Christian people reflect a grounding in the surrounding culture rather than the character and love and gospel of Jesus Christ. In this episode, author, professor, and consultant Tod Bolsinger argues that culture is the thing that forms you before you ever realize it, let alone consent to it. He suggests that the soil of community and belonging—rooted in attachment, vulnerability, trust, and joy—is what makes sense of exemplary models of Christian formation. "If you wanna grow good fruit—abundant harvests of good fruit—you don't focus on the fruit, you focus on the soil." With Mark Labberton, Tod reflects on the agricultural model of spiritual formation; regenerative farming and the impact of soil health on the quality of the fruit; the example of Andre Trocme and the French Huguenots of Le Chambon-sur-Lignon, village whose radical hospitality saved thousands of Jews during the Holocaust; trust, pain, and care The intentionally formative community: joyful belonging, shared values, vulnerable self-reflection, care that isn't comfort. Episode Highlights "There are no dysfunctional systems. They all produce." "These people just lived out their faith." "The precognitive and the unconscious realities of our life are stronger than our words." "Nothing is as formative as the organizational culture you're in." About Tod Bolsinger Tod Bolsinger is co-founder and principal of AE Sloan Leadership, a coaching and consulting firm working with churches, nonprofits, universities, and businesses in seasons of change. He is associate professor of leadership formation at Fuller Theological Seminary, where he earned an MDiv and PhD and served six years as a vice president. His books include "Canoeing the Mountains," "Tempered Resilience," "It Takes a Church to Raise a Christian," and the four-volume Practicing Change Series. He was a Presbyterian pastor for 27 years, most recently in San Clemente, California. Helpful Links and Resources Tod's current project, Good Soil, Holy Ground: Preparing Your People for Facing Change https://www.aesloanleadership.com/good-soil-holy-ground AE Sloan Leadership, Tod Bolsinger's coaching and consulting firm: https://www.aesloanleadership.com/ Canoeing the Mountains, Bolsinger's best-known book: https://www.ivpress.com/canoeing-the-mountains Tempered Resilience: How Leaders Are Formed in the Crucible of Change: https://www.ivpress.com/tempered-resilience The Practicing Change Series, Bolsinger's four most recent books: https://www.ivpress.com/practicing-change-serie The Biggest Little Farm: https://www.apricotlanefarms.com/biggest-little-farm/ Weapons of the Spirit, Pierre Sauvage's documentary on Le Chambon-sur-Lignon (from the Chambon Foundation): https://www.chambon.org/weapons_en.htm The Patient Ferment of the Early Church by Alan Kreider: https://bakerpublishinggroup.com/books/the-patient-ferment-of-the-early-church/339350 An Everyone Culture by Robert Kegan and Lisa Laskow Lahey, on deliberately developmental organizations: https://store.hbr.org/product/an-everyone-culture-becoming-a-deliberately-developmental-organization/14259 Show Notes Dallas Willard's worry: that spiritual formation would become commoditized—"a cottage industry instead of rooted deeply in the life of the church" "We take on the terroir of the soil, like the way a grape does for wine." "The Biggest Little Farm" documentary: how regenerative agriculture transformed a soil-depleted farm north of Los Angeles "If you wanna grow good fruit—abundant harvests of good fruit—you don't focus on the fruit, you focus on the soil" Rereading the parable of the sower "Jesus literally says that more powerful than his preaching is the soil that the word falls into." Systems perfectly designed for the results they get: "There are no dysfunctional systems. they all produce." No church ever started a program in Christian nationalism, no associate pastor, no strategic plan. "It just came up out of the soil." "Weapons of the Spirit" documentary: Le Chambon-sur-Lignon: How French pastor Andre Trocme led a small village of Huguenots to save thousands of Jewish refugees during the Holocaust. The pastors daughter, at age 93, on being told her parents were heroes: "You're very romantic about this. These people just lived out their faith." Counter-cultural cultivation Examples of radical communal formation: Amish forgiveness, Mother Emanuel AME Cultural competency vs. cultural humility Hospitality as the village economy Mother Teresa and entering East Beirut to save children because of (not in spite of) the bombing Brain scientists reaching for a word: "It is to be in a room with people who are happy to see you." "God, please make me the kind of person my dog thinks I am" The intentionally formative community, which "begins in joy, it ends in death" "Trust, pain, and care": Kegan and Lahey's deliberately developmental organizations, and the three words in the word cloud Are university theology faculty equipped to provide pastoral care to hurting, traumatized students? #SpiritualFormation #Discipleship #ChristianLeadership #LeChambon #AdaptiveLeadership #ChurchLeadership #ChristianNationalism #Fuller Production Credits Conversing is produced and distributed in partnership with Comment Magazine and Fuller Seminary.
Host Andrew Camp welcomes back psychologist and author Richard Beck to discuss Beck's recent book on reading the Bible through a hermeneutic of love amid conservative and progressive polarization. Beck describes his journey from a Churches of Christ fundamentalist background through deconstruction and reconstruction, arguing both left and right need better strategies that resist confirmation bias. He frames love as a tension between particular obligations (family, place, patriotism) and universal duties (hospitality to strangers), noting social media intensifies a “digital universal” that can distract from local needs. Beck draws on attachment theory, contending “you can't read the Bible scared” and that secure attachment requires confidence that God is unconditionally for us and distinct from harm done by church or family. He emphasizes moral self-criticism via the prophets, defines love Christologically as sacrificial, transgressive kindness, and grounds hope in God and eschatology, ending with a prison story of an inmate praying for his victim as a model of bringing moral blind spots into view.Richard Beck is a Professor in the Department of Psychology at Abilene Christian University and is the Senior Fellow of the Saunders Center for Joy and Human Flourishing. Richard also teaches in the Doctor of Ministry programs at Fuller Theological Seminary and Abilene Christian University. He is the author of a number of books, most recently The Book of Love, and The Shape of Joy. Richard serves as a prison chaplain at the maximum-security French Robertson unit and has written and spoken extensively about his experiences working among the incarcerated.Follow Richard Beck on Substack: @richardbeckListen to my previous conversation with Richard Beck on The Biggest TableFollow Andrew CampFacebook: andrew.camp.9Instagram: @andrewcamp80Substack: @thebiggesttableThis episode of the Biggest Table is brought to you in part by Wild Goose Coffee. Since 2008, Wild Goose has sought to build better communities through coffee. For our listeners, Wild Goose is offering a special promotion of 20% off a one time order using the code TABLE at checkout. To learn more and to order coffee, please visit wildgoosecoffee.com. (00:00) - Reading Scripture as Love (06:45) - Particular vs Universal Love (13:35) - Secure Attachment and Grace (33:13) - Loving the Awkward Enemy (36:28) - Charitable Listening Across Politics (48:05) - Hope and the Narrow Way
Faith Ventures introduces something new: a roundtable format. Dr. Norman Horn is joined by Jacqueline Isaacs — long-time LCI collaborator, communications and content strategist, and DMin student at Fuller Theological Seminary in their faith, work, and marketplace ministry program. Jacqueline spent years doing content work for the Institute for Faith, Work & Economics (IFWE), founded by the late Hugh Welchel, and has been embedded in the faith and work movement long enough to know where its best ideas are and where the gaps remain.The Faith Ventures Podcast is part of the Christians For Liberty Network, a project of the Libertarian Christian Institute. Audio cleaned up with the Podsworth App!https://podsworth.comUse code LCI50 for 50% off your first order at Podsworth.com to clean up your voice recordings and also support LCI!
Gavin Ortlund explores the doctrine of divine aseity, God's self-existence and absolute independence, showing why it is foundational to the Christian understanding of God, deeply rooted in Scripture, and essential for understanding creation, the Trinity, and our relationship with God.Truth Unites (https://truthunites.org) exists to promote gospel assurance through theological depth. Gavin Ortlund (PhD, Fuller Theological Seminary) is President of Truth Unites, Visiting Professor of Historical Theology at Phoenix Seminary, and Theologian-in-Residence at Immanuel Nashville.SUPPORT:Tax Deductible Support: https://truthunites.org/donate/Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/truthunitesFOLLOW:Website: https://truthunites.org/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/truth.unites/X: https://x.com/gavinortlundFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/TruthUnitesPage/
Send us Fan MailWhat if God's calling isn't something we discover in one dramatic moment, but something we live out every day?In this episode of Summer Series 2026, Tim Stewart sits down with Dr. Susan Maros—professor at Fuller Theological Seminary, author, and leadership scholar—to unpack some of the most common misconceptions about calling, purpose, and vocation.Together they explore how our families, churches, cultures, and life experiences shape our understanding of God's invitation. They discuss agency, leadership, women in ministry, burnout, discernment, and why faithfulness—not extraordinary achievement—is often the truest measure of a life well lived.Whether you're discerning your next step, questioning your purpose, or simply longing to live more intentionally, this conversation offers practical wisdom and deep encouragement for every season of life.In this episode: Understanding God's call in everyday life Why faithfulness matters more than extraordinary success Recognizing recurring patterns of purpose Agency, leadership, and human flourishing Women and leadership in the Church Discernment through life's changing seasons Becoming the person God is forming you to be Featured Resources
Gavin Ortlund examines the claim that Protestantism caused modern secularism, offering five historical reasons to question that narrative while highlighting ways the Reformation has positively shaped the world.Truth Unites (https://truthunites.org) exists to promote gospel assurance through theological depth. Gavin Ortlund (PhD, Fuller Theological Seminary) is President of Truth Unites, Visiting Professor of Historical Theology at Phoenix Seminary, and Theologian-in-Residence at Immanuel Nashville.SUPPORT:Tax Deductible Support: https://truthunites.org/donate/Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/truthunitesFOLLOW:Website: https://truthunites.org/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/truth.unites/X: https://x.com/gavinortlundFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/TruthUnitesPage/
Parenting has never come with more advice, more experts, or more pressure. But what if becoming a healthier parent has less to do with finding the perfect strategy and more to do with becoming a more grounded person? In this episode, Trisha Taylor is joined by Dr. Michael DeRuyter and Dr. Jenny Brown, the author of The Parenting Paradox, to discuss the book and explore what family systems theory teaches about raising resilient children. Together they unpack the tension between caring deeply for our children while resisting the urge to over-function, over-protect, or define our success by our children's choices. Whether you're parenting young children, adult children, grandchildren, or simply navigating important relationships, this conversation offers a refreshing perspective on leading with clarity, connection, and thoughtful conviction. Dr. Jenny Brown is a highly respected family therapist, educator and founder of the Parent Hope Project, a social enterprise dedicated to improving children's wellbeing by strengthening parents. Drawing on decades of clinical practice with the Family Systems Institute, Jenny supports parents, educators and clinicians to understand family dynamics and make meaningful, lasting change. She is the author of The Parenting Paradox and Growing Yourself Up about adult development and relationships. She is also the host of the Parent Hope podcast. Dr. Michael DeRuyter is a pastor, coach and consultant with The Leader's Journey. He has completed four years of postgraduate study at the Bowen Center for the Study of the Family, served as a research fellow studying family systems, and earned a certificate in systems thinking from Cornell University. Mike holds a Doctor of Ministry from Fuller Theological Seminary and has spent more than 15 years helping leaders, parents, and organizations apply Bowen Family Systems Theory to foster greater spiritual, emotional, and relational maturity. Conversation Overview -Parenting Begins with Your Own Growth -Define Your Job Description -Resist Anxiety, Not Connection -Parenting and Technology -Parenting in an Age of Endless Advice -Preparing Children for Life Beyond You Resources Parent Hope Project The Parenting Paradox: Loving Our Children by Giving Them Space to Grow - Jenny Brown Growing Yourself Up, 2nd Edition: How to bring your best to all of life's relationships - Jenny Brown Bowen family systems theory in Christian ministry: Grappling with Theory and its Application Through a Biblical Lens - Jenny Brown, Lauren Errington The Anxious Generation - Jonathan Haidt
Gavin Ortlund explains what a church service in the year 150 A.D. was like.Special thanks to Ryan Roark for the animation. Truth Unites (https://truthunites.org) exists to promote gospel assurance through theological depth. Gavin Ortlund (PhD, Fuller Theological Seminary) is President of Truth Unites, Visiting Professor of Historical Theology at Phoenix Seminary, and Theologian-in-Residence at Immanuel Nashville.SUPPORT:Tax Deductible Support: https://truthunites.org/donate/Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/truthunitesFOLLOW:Website: https://truthunites.org/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/truth.unites/X: https://x.com/gavinortlundFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/TruthUnitesPage/MY ACADEMIC WORK:https://truthunites.org/mypublications/PODCAST: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/truth-unitesDISCORD SERVER ON PROTESTANTISMStriving Side By Side: https://discord.gg/MdTt6d5PVsCHECK OUT SOME BOOKS:https://www.amazon.com/Why-Christianity-Makes-Sense-Mysteries/dp/0310182204/truthunitesbo-20https://www.amazon.com/What-Means-Be-Protestant-Always-Reforming/dp/B0CNFFP6LK/truthunitesbo-20https://www.amazon.com/Makes-Sense-World-That-Doesnt/dp/1540964094/truthunitesbo-20https://www.amazon.com/Theological-Retrieval-Evangelicals-Need-Future/dp/1433565269/truthunitesbo-20https://www.amazon.com/Finding-Right-Hills-Die-Theological/dp/1433567423/truthunitesbo-20https://www.amazon.com/Retrieving-Augustines-Doctrine-Creation-Controversy/dp/0830853243/truthunitesbo-20
Caleb Campbell joins Bob and David to discuss some of the content in his book, Disarming Leviathan: Loving Your Christian Nationalist Neighbor (InterVarsity Press, 2024). Caleb believes that while it's possible to be both a Christian and hold Christian nationalist ideas, Christian nationalism itself is an unchristian worldview, rooted in the desire for power that is irreconcilable with the Christian faith.We recorded the first part of this interview on August 29, 2025. This was before the assassination of one of the leading voices of Christian American Nationalism, Charlie Kirk. In light of that devastating event, we thought we'd table the episode and then revisit with Caleb and get his thoughts. So the first part of this interview is from last year, and the second part is from this year.* Caleb shares his personal story of how people in his congregation became more strident about political issues and how he suffered relational fallout because of it.* What is Leviathan? And why does Caleb think that American Christian Nationalism is “Leviathan”?* Many feel that the actual Leviathan that has gripped the country is liberal progressivism. Is Caleb equally concerned about what's happening with the secularist Left?* Politics seems to always revolve around anxiety and rage. But Christians should know better. We follow Jesus, who constantly told us, “Do not be afraid.” How do we help people move away from being so anxious and angry?* How do we engage with people who have become even more strident in light of the awful assassination of Charlie Kirk?* How is AI imagery creating iconography that creates a heretical syncretism of Christianity and Americana?* In the book, Caleb offers a “Field Guide for Responding to American Christian Nationalists.” The loose structure of our conversations looks like this:1. Clarifying Questions2. Possible Shared Values3. Shibboleths (vs Red Flags)4. Good things to honor, and then5. “Humble Subversion” with the gospel of Jesus Christ.* We reflect on Galatians 6:1-2, “If anyone is caught in any transgression, you who are spiritual should restore him in a spirit of gentleness. Keep watch on yourself, lest you too be tempted. Bear one another's burdens, and so fulfill the law of Christ.”Scroll down to learn more about Caleb Campbell.Thanks for listening!If you enjoyed this podcast, please share it with your friends!Your hosts are Dr. Bob Robinson and David Loughney. For further resources on reintegrating all of life with God's mission, go to re-integrate.org.Caleb CampbellCaleb Campbell is Lead Pastor at Desert Springs Bible Church in Phoenix. Check out Caleb Campbell's Substack, also called Disarming Leviathan.In the early 2000s, Caleb was invited to play the drums with one of the bands at the church. He met Jesus through a friendship with someone from at the church. In 2006, he joined staff. In 2015, he was called to serve as Lead Pastor. Caleb is the Director of the J29 Coalition, which seeks to equip pastors to “recapture the evangelical political imagination.” He also serves on the board of United Pastors of Arizona and as the statewide regional director of the Surge Network. Caleb has a Masters Degree in Ministry from Phoenix Seminary and a Doctor of Ministry from Fuller Theological Seminary. On two previous episodes, we had historian John Fea on to discuss his books, Was America Founded as a Christian Nation? and Believe Me: The Evangelical Road to Donald Trump. These are well worth a listen to be educated on all the nuances of these issues.Where to purchase Caleb's book: Support independent booksellers! Purchase any of the books mentioned above from Byron and Beth Borger at Hearts & Minds Bookstore. They are eager to serve God's people with great books. Order online through their secure server or call 717-246-3333. Ask for 20% OFF by mentioning that you heard about these books on the Reintegrate Podcast! Get full access to Bob Robinson's Substack at bobrobinsonre.substack.com/subscribe
This week, we are reconnecting with Dr. Susan Phillips, who has been a long-standing presence at Regent Summer School. This year, she will be back teaching Contemplative Listening: The Foundation of Spiritual Friendship and Direction from July 20-31. Susan has many years of experience as a spiritual director, researcher and teacher. In this conversation, she shares with us about listening as vocation and sanctuary. She also shares helpful perspectives on the transformative power of listening, why it's so hard to listen, how we slowly build trust in listening relationships, and balance empathy and self-care. As you listen, we hope you receive an invitation to slow down and notice the kind voice of God in your life.Susan's BioA spiritual director and professor of sociology and Christian spirituality, Susan S. Phillips earned a PhD in sociology at the University of California, Berkeley, and served as the Executive Director of New College Berkeley, an affiliate of the Graduate Theological Union, from 1994 to 2022. In addition to teaching in a number of institutions within the Graduate Theological Union, Berkeley, and serving on its doctoral faculty, Susan has taught for many years at Fuller Theological Seminary, Regent College, and San Francisco Theological Seminary. Her books, like her teaching, explore the intersection of Christian spirituality and social science, and include the award-winning Crisis of Care: Affirming and Restoring Caring Practices in the Helping Profession (Georgetown University Press, 1995), Candlelight: Illuminating the Art of Spiritual Direction (Morehouse, 2008), and The Cultivated Life: From Ceaseless Striving to Receiving Joy (IVP, 2015). Susan loves listening to people as they pray and seek the Holy in spiritual direction, retreats, and everyday life. Related ContentPrevious Podcast AppearancesOn Spiritual Practice (Nov 2017)Spiritual Direction, with John Lunn (June 2018)Spiritual Practices in Community (Nov 2021)Regent Vine ArticleAdvent: God Forges a Path (Dec 5, 2025)Regent College PodcastThanks for listening. Please like, rate and review us on your podcast platform of choice and share this episode with a friend. Follow Us on Social MediaFacebookInstagramYoutubeKeep in TouchRegent CollegeThe Regent VineSummer ProgramsRegent College NewsletterSupport UsGive Back
JR Woodward is the National Director of the V3 Movement, a faculty member in the Doctor of Global Leadership cohort at Fuller Theological Seminary, and the author of The Scandal of Leadership: Unmasking the Powers of Domination in the Church. In this conversation, JR and Markus explore what it looks like to lead communities that bring the Kingdom of God to life in the places where we live.THIS EPISODE'S HIGHLIGHTS INCLUDE:What it means that Jesus's primary message was the kingdom of God, and how that shapes everything a church doesShalom as a holistic picture of human flourishing: restored relationships with God, others, creation, and ourselvesThe NEAR framework for understanding a neighborhood: Narrative, Ethics, Associations, RitualsThe four spaces of belonging and how Jesus inhabited all four: intimate (3–4), personal (5–12), social (20–50), public (70+)Why closed discipleship groups differ from open missional spaces, and why you can't build depth if the door is always openHow people often belong before they believe, and how behavior changes before beliefs doHow our desires are shaped by whoever we look up to, and how this creates rivalry and division in churchesHow conflict in a congregation can escalate until one person becomes the targetWhat Philippians 2 teaches about giving up honor and titles as a path to healthier leadershipHow love of image, institutional self-preservation, and ideology become corrupting forces in church lifeOscar Romero as a real-world example of the downward path of leadershipV3 Movement's interdenominational church planting trainingThe Doctor of Global Leadership cohort at Fuller SeminaryRELEVANT RESOURCES AND LINKS:The Scandal of Leadership, by JR WoodwardV3 MovementFuller Doctor of Global Leadership ProgramRELATED EPISODES:288. Leadership That Smells Like the Gospel, with Jason Jensen272. Beyond Church Revitalization, with Josh Hayden247. The Kingdom of God as Present RealitySend me a text! I'd love to know what you're thinking!Click HERE to get my FREE online course, BECOMING LEADERS OF SHALOM.
Gavin Ortlund examines the claim that Jesus was a false prophet and argues that a closer look at his predictions actually strengthens the case for Christianity.Truth Unites (https://truthunites.org) exists to promote gospel assurance through theological depth. Gavin Ortlund (PhD, Fuller Theological Seminary) is President of Truth Unites, Visiting Professor of Historical Theology at Phoenix Seminary, and Theologian-in-Residence at Immanuel Nashville.SUPPORT:Tax Deductible Support: https://truthunites.org/donate/Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/truthunitesFOLLOW:Website: https://truthunites.org/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/truth.unites/X: https://x.com/gavinortlundFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/TruthUnitesPage/
Episode 247 of The Hitstreak, a podcast where we talk about anything and everything!This week we are joined by pastor, author, speaker, ministry strategist & founder of Network Ministries International, Bruce Bugbee!Episode in a Glance:In this episode of The Hitstreak, I get to sit down with Bruce Bugbee, and explore freedom in Christ, the journey of personal and leadership development, and the significance of understanding your unique purpose and spiritual gifts. We discuss the dynamics of church life, the necessity of community, and how personal struggles shape growth. Bruce emphasizes gratitude, self-discovery, and the influence our actions have on others, encouraging listeners to own their faith journey and recognize their unique role in the body of Christ. From there we get into accountability, freedom, and the role of digital media in modern ministry. Bruce makes the case for recalibrating the metrics we use to measure church growth, and reminds us that true leadership is rooted in servanthood and followership — lessons drawn from five decades in ministry and a shift in perspective on what effective leadership and growth really look like.Key Points:- Most Christians want to be good, but Jesus died to make us free.- Most people fear freedom because it implies responsibility.- Leadership is about equipping others, not just giving orders.- Finding your unique purpose is essential for fulfillment.- Spiritual gifts are crucial for understanding God's will for our lives.- Church dynamics can create challenges in personal faith.- Community and relationships are vital for personal growth.- Struggles often lead to significant personal development.- Gratitude can transform our perspective on adversity.- We often underestimate the impact we have on others.- Owning our faith is key to spiritual growth.- The church needs to focus on making disciples, not just starting churches.- Digital media is a powerful tool for reaching people.- Metrics in church growth should focus on engagement, not just attendance.- Leadership is about serving others and understanding their needs.- Effective leaders must first learn to follow.- Every individual has the potential to grow in the right environment.- Rock bottom can be a launching point for new beginnings.- Authenticity in leadership comes from admitting when you don't have all the answers.About our guest:Bruce Bugbee is a pastor, author, speaker, and ministry strategist who has spent more than five decades helping churches and Christian organizations discover, develop, and deploy leaders. Founder of Network Ministries International, Bruce is best known for co-creating the award-winning Network discipleship and leadership development system, which has helped nearly two million believers in thousands of churches across 17 languages identify their spiritual gifts, passions, and calling. He has personally guided more than 50,000 pastors, staff members, and volunteers through the process.As the founder of Network Ministries International, Bruce is a graduate of Westmont College and Fuller Theological Seminary. He has served in youth ministry, denominational leadership, and at Willow Creek Community Church, where he helped more than 10,000 people discover their ministry fit. He is the author of What You Do Best, Discover Your Spiritual Gifts the Network Way, and co-author of Experiencing Leadershift. Through Network Ministries and Network MISSIONS International, Bruce continues to equip leaders around the world while living near Nashville, Tennessee with his family.Follow and contact:Instagram: @brucebugbee7brucebugbee.comSubscribe to Nick's top-rated podcast The Hitstreak on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/NickHiterFollow and Rate us on Spotify: https://spotify.com/NickHiterFollow and Rate us on Apple Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/NickHiterFollow and Rate us on iHeartRadio: https://www.iheart.com/NickHiter
The Bible didn't drop out of the sky. It was written by real people, in real places, surrounded by some of the most powerful civilizations the ancient world ever produced. Egypt. Babylon. Assyria. Their literature, their laws, their prayers, their creation stories. All of it was in the air when the authors of the Hebrew Bible sat down to write. And they weren't ignoring it.Dr. Christopher Hays is the D. Wilson Moore Professor of Old Testament and Ancient Near Eastern Studies at Fuller Theological Seminary. He holds a PhD from Emory, an MA in Egyptology from UCLA, reads six ancient languages, and is the author of Hidden Riches, the leading textbook on comparative study between the Old Testament and the Ancient Near East. In this conversation, he walks us through what happens when you place the Bible side by side with the texts of Israel's neighbors. From Mesopotamian prayers that sound like the Psalms to Egyptian wisdom literature that mirrors Proverbs to Assyrian propaganda that Isaiah turned on its head, this episode will reshape how you understand the origins of Scripture.In this episode you will learn:- Why the Old Testament is an Ancient Near Eastern text and what that means for how we read it- How Mesopotamian prayers called Dinger Shah Dibba incantations parallel the language of the Psalms- What the Enuma Elish and the Memphite Theology reveal about what Genesis 1 is actually doing- Why Egyptian influence on the Bible has been massively overlooked and what it teaches us- The striking connection between the Instruction of Amenemope and the book of Proverbs- How the Code of Hammurabi and ANE treaty forms reshape our understanding of the Mosaic Covenant- Why God functioning as the lawgiver in the Torah is a radical departure from ANE norms- How Isaiah used Assyrian imperial propaganda against the empire itself- Why Isaiah 24 through 27 is not apocalyptic and what it actually describes- How new archaeological evidence ties Isaiah 24-27 to the fall of the Neo-Assyrian Empire under Josiah- What it means that Scripture "breathes in" the surrounding culture and "breathes it back out" in a new formGet Dr Hayes Book:Hidden Riches: A Sourcebook for the Comparative Study of the Hebrew Bible and the Ancient Near East- https://a.co/d/0cBF0ZNK Fuller Faculty Page: https://fuller.edu/faculty/christopher-hays/Stay Connected with Dig InWebsite: https://johnnyova.comSubscribe on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@thejohnnyovaGet Johnny's latest book- The Revelation Reset: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DSHTP16Q
Pam King is back, and this conversation moved at the pace it wanted to. She runs the Thrive Center at Fuller Theological Seminary, and the framework she has built there is the most useful integration of psychological science and Christian theology I have come across — six facets that spell THRIVE, with a telos she calls the reciprocating self. We started with Stanford and seminary and ended with how the church is asking nine-year-olds to defend their interpretation of Torah when what they actually need is a fifth adult who knows their name. In between: the difference between flourishing and thriving, the Altadena fires Pam watched from her office window, how Winnicott's good enough mother maps onto how children come to relate to God, what Mark Labberton's seminary depression taught him about liturgy, why I rebuilt our confirmation class around questions instead of doctrines, and the prayer I have been praying with my daughter Khora since she was an infant. You can check out her previous visit on the podcast here. Books we touched on: The Reciprocating Self: Human Development in Theological Perspective, with Jack O. Balswick and Kevin S. Reimer. Her foundational telos book. Thriving with Stone Age Minds: Evolutionary Psychology, Christian Faith, and the Quest for Human Flourishing, with Justin L. Barrett. The Handbook of Spiritual Development in Childhood and Adolescence. Join our online class – THE FUTURE OF RELIGION Tripp and Ilia Delio are teaming up for a brand-new four-week online class, The Future of Religion — for everyone who's read the books, asked the questions, and realized the faith they inherited doesn't quite fit anymore. Together they'll trace religion's evolutionary arc and map what's emerging on the other side. Includes 4 video lectures, 4 live Q&As (replays available), and a community of fellow travelers. Donation-based, pay what you're able (including $0). Live sessions start this month — register at www.thefutureofreligion.com This podcast is a Homebrewed Christianity production. Follow the Homebrewed Christianity, Theology Nerd Throwdown, & The Rise of Bonhoeffer podcasts for more theological goodness for your earbuds. Join over 75,000 other people by joining our Substack - Process This! Get instant access to over 50 classes at www.TheologyClass.com Follow the podcast, drop a review, send feedback/questions or become a member of the HBC Community. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Gavin Ortlund and Dr. Marcus Ross discuss differing interpretations of the Genesis 1, the age of the earth, the historicity of Adam and Eve, and how to have healthy conversations around creation.Truth Unites (https://truthunites.org) exists to promote gospel assurance through theological depth. Gavin Ortlund (PhD, Fuller Theological Seminary) is President of Truth Unites, Visiting Professor of Historical Theology at Phoenix Seminary, and Theologian-in-Residence at Immanuel Nashville.SUPPORT:Tax Deductible Support: https://truthunites.org/donate/Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/truthunitesFOLLOW:Website: https://truthunites.org/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/truth.unites/X: https://x.com/gavinortlundFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/TruthUnitesPage/
Today, we are reprising one of our most popular conversations of the past year with Dr. David C. Wang. David will be with us again at Regent this summer, from June 29 to July 3, teaching Trauma & Spiritual Formation: Principles & Practices for Leadership. In this conversation, he touches on many themes that will be discussed in the class, including types of trauma, adverse childhood experiences and ministry leaders, caring for oneself and others in the aftermath of trauma, and what we can learn from those who have experienced trauma in our church communities. Consider joining us in the classroom or online if you want to be part of this important conversation.David's BioDr. David C. Wang is Cliff and Joyce Penner Chair for the Formation of Emotionally Healthy Leaders and Professor of Psychology and Spiritual Formation at Fuller Theological Seminary. He is also Pastor of Spiritual Formation at One Life City Church in Fullerton, California, and a licensed psychologist. He oversees research grants on the human and spiritual formation of global and ecumenical Christian leaders (www.globalformationproject.com) and mobilizing diverse local congregations to meet the spiritual and mental health needs of trauma survivors.Related ContentThe Scars of the Resurrected Christ: What They Teach Us About Trauma, the Christian Life, and Vocation (Regent Vine Article, Sept 2025)Regent College PodcastThanks for listening. Please like, rate and review us on your podcast platform of choice and share this episode with a friend. Follow Us on Social MediaFacebookInstagramYoutubeKeep in TouchRegent CollegeSummer ProgramsRegent College Newsletter
Gavin Ortlund and Fr. Stephen De Young discuss Eastern Orthodox exclusivity, the boundaries of the church, and what it means to be a Christian.Truth Unites (https://truthunites.org) exists to promote gospel assurance through theological depth. Gavin Ortlund (PhD, Fuller Theological Seminary) is President of Truth Unites, Visiting Professor of Historical Theology at Phoenix Seminary, and Theologian-in-Residence at Immanuel Nashville.SUPPORT:Tax Deductible Support: https://truthunites.org/donate/Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/truthunitesFOLLOW:Website: https://truthunites.org/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/truth.unites/X: https://x.com/gavinortlundFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/TruthUnitesPage/
On the Flyover Conservatives Show, David and Stacy Whited sit down with Dr. Laura Sanger to uncover the hidden spiritual battle over sound, music, worship, and frequency. Dr. Sanger connects Genesis 6, the Nephilim, the seed war, Babylonian programming, and modern music to reveal how sound has been used to shape minds, influence culture, and wage war in the unseen realm. This conversation dives into controversial topics like 440Hz tuning, 528Hz frequencies, healing sound, worship as warfare, and the power of what comes through your speakers. Dr. Sanger also explains how worship in spirit and truth can break bondage, shift atmospheres, and release the sound of heaven into your home. If you've ever wondered why music is so powerful, what the Bible says about sound, or whether there is a hidden war behind what we hear every day, this episode is for you.TO WATCH ALL FLYOVER CONTENT: www.theflyoverapp.com Follow and Subscribe on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TheFlyoverConservativesShow To Schedule A Time To Talk To Dr. Dr. Kirk Elliott Go To ▶ https://flyovergold.comOr Call 720-605-3900 ► Receive your FREE 52 Date Night Ideas Playbook to make date night more exciting, go to www.prosperousmarriage.comLaura SangerWEBSITE: https://nolongerenslaved.com/YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCcbPNOcBFUZVcsuJ_SSHs1A INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/laurasanger444hz/ BOOKS: https://www.amazon.com/stores/Laura-Sanger-Ph.D./author/B08R44HV8X?ref=sr_ntt_srch_lnk_1&qid=1753368528&sr=8-1&isDramIntegrated=true&shoppingPortalEnabled=true&ccs_id=8caef8ee-ffbc-40a5-8bdf-961be0053a79 Dr. Laura Sanger is a wife, mother, author, speaker, and retired Clinical Psychologist with a Ph.D. in Clinical Psychology and an M.A. in Theology from Fuller Theological Seminary. As the founder of No Longer Enslaved, she equips believers to break free from spiritual and societal systems of bondage. Her books, The Roots of the Federal Reserve and Generation Hoodwinked, expose hidden agendas and offer pathways to freedom, both spiritually and mentally. With over 20 years in church leadership and prophetic intercession, Laura is passionate about seeing people fully awakened to their God-given identity. She and her husband Tom have been joyfully married since 1992 and live in Utah with their three children.
Today's guest is Myal Greene, president and CEO of World Relief, one of the world's largest Christian humanitarian organizations. Serving in nearly 20 countries and across the United States, World Relief works at the intersection of disaster response, refugee resettlement, economic development, and church-based ministry, partnering with local congregations to serve vulnerable communities around the globe. Myal has a bachelor's degree in finance from Lehigh University, and a master's degree from Fuller Theological Seminary. Before becoming president in 2021, Myal had already spent fourteen years at World Relief, much of it in leadership positions, helping guide the organization's international programs and strategy. He has worked extensively in some of the world's most challenging environments, focusing on issues such as poverty alleviation, forced migration, community resilience, and the role of local churches in sustainable development. The producer for today's program is Jeff McIntosh. I'm your host Warren Smith. Until next time, may God bless you.
Gavin Ortlund examines one of the Bible's most difficult passages, Deuteronomy 21's law concerning a rebellious son, and explores its historical context, purpose, and what it reveals about justice, mercy, and the character of God.Truth Unites (https://truthunites.org) exists to promote gospel assurance through theological depth. Gavin Ortlund (PhD, Fuller Theological Seminary) is President of Truth Unites, Visiting Professor of Historical Theology at Phoenix Seminary, and Theologian-in-Residence at Immanuel Nashville.SUPPORT:Tax Deductible Support: https://truthunites.org/donate/Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/truthunitesFOLLOW:Website: https://truthunites.org/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/truth.unites/X: https://x.com/gavinortlundFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/TruthUnitesPage/
Gavin Ortlund and Jonathan Pageau discuss the nature Orthodox exclusivity, the synod of Jerusalem, and the definition of salvation. Truth Unites (https://truthunites.org) exists to promote gospel assurance through theological depth. Gavin Ortlund (PhD, Fuller Theological Seminary) is President of Truth Unites, Visiting Professor of Historical Theology at Phoenix Seminary, and Theologian-in-Residence at Immanuel Nashville.SUPPORT:Tax Deductible Support: https://truthunites.org/donate/Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/truthunitesFOLLOW:Website: https://truthunites.org/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/truth.unites/X: https://x.com/gavinortlundFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/TruthUnitesPage/
Gavin Ortlund and John Lennox discuss AI, transhumanism, loneliness and the book of Revelation.Truth Unites (https://truthunites.org) exists to promote gospel assurance through theological depth. Gavin Ortlund (PhD, Fuller Theological Seminary) is President of Truth Unites, Visiting Professor of Historical Theology at Phoenix Seminary, and Theologian-in-Residence at Immanuel Nashville.SUPPORT:Tax Deductible Support: https://truthunites.org/donate/Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/truthunitesFOLLOW:Website: https://truthunites.org/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/truth.unites/X: https://x.com/gavinortlundFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/TruthUnitesPage/
Gavin Ortlund and Fr. Gregory Pine discuss sins of speech, social media, protestant-catholic differences, and apologetics in the modern age.Fr. Gregory Pine's new book: Training the Tongue and Growing Beyond Sins of Speech: https://www.amazon.com/Training-Tongue-Growing-Beyond-Speech/dp/1645855171/truthunitesbo-20Truth Unites (https://truthunites.org) exists to promote gospel assurance through theological depth. Gavin Ortlund (PhD, Fuller Theological Seminary) is President of Truth Unites, Visiting Professor of Historical Theology at Phoenix Seminary, and Theologian-in-Residence at Immanuel Nashville.SUPPORT:Tax Deductible Support: https://truthunites.org/donate/Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/truthunitesFOLLOW:Website: https://truthunites.org/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/truth.unites/X: https://x.com/gavinortlundFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/TruthUnitesPage/
Order your free copy of When Faith is Forbidden: www.vom.org/titr Dr. Gavin Ortlund is a pastor, author, speaker, and apologist for the Christian faith. He serves as President of Truth Unites, Theologian-in-Residence at Immanuel Nashville, and Visiting Professor of Historical Theology at Phoenix Seminary. Gavin has a Ph.D. from Fuller Theological Seminary in historical theology, and an M.Div from Covenant Theological Seminary. He is the author of nine books, including his forthcoming book: Why Christianity Makes Sense: A Book About Jesus, the Mysteries of the World, and the Longings in Your Heart.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
Most believers never reach the place where their calling, gifts, and assignment converge — and according to research out of Fuller Theological Seminary, 80% of full-time ministers don't either. Lance Wallnau breaks open the hidden pattern that pulls faithful Christians out of their destiny right before they cross the finish line. It's not a lack of passion. It's not a lack of anointing. It's something far closer to home — and almost no one is talking about it. So how do you know if you're actually walking in what God called you to do? In this episode, Lance unpacks the "Convergence Zone" — the place where your gifts, talents, and divine assignment finally line up — and reveals why most Christians never get there. Are you running your race, or are you running someone else's? In this episode: The Bobby Clinton research that exposed why 80% of pastors never reach convergence Why the "Mountain of Me" stops more callings than spiritual warfare ever does The hidden reason gifted preachers crash off-camera and behind closed doors How the Wheel of Life either sustains your destiny or quietly sabotages it What Paul understood about finishing strong that most believers miss completely The difference between the anointing that accelerates you and the fruit of the Spirit that sustains you The questions every spouse, parent, and leader must answer before chasing the call Why your private life ultimately decides whether your public calling holds up If you've ever sensed God has more for you but felt the resistance hit harder than the breakthrough, this is the blueprint you've been waiting for. Podcast Episode 2111: How to Know If You're Actually Doing What God Called You To | don't miss this! Listen to more episodes of the Lance Wallnau Show at lancewallnau.com/podcast