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    Who Is Worthy To Open The Seals (Rev. 5:1-4), part 4/4

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 31, 2026 32:22 Transcription Available


    Send us Fan MailJohn's tears hit different when you realize what's at stake: if no one is worthy to open the scroll, then history stays sealed, hope stays locked, and we're left with self-salvation and self-worship. We sit in Revelation 5:5 and let the elder's words do their work: “Weep not” because the Lion of the tribe of Judah has prevailed.We slow down on two big claims that shape everything. First, Jesus alone opens all seven seals, not one seal here and another seal there. That detail isn't trivia; it guards the exclusivity of Christ and shuts the door on the idea of multiple spiritual authorities and multiple roads to salvation. Second, “prevailed” is not about theatrics or secret insight. We talk about the cross at Calvary, the suffering Servant, the resurrection, and how Christ's finished victory makes him worthy not only to reveal God's plan but to execute it.We also anchor the titles “Lion of Judah” and “Root of David” in the Old Testament (Genesis 49 and Isaiah 11), unpacking why Jesus can be both David's source and David's offspring. The result is not more speculation about Revelation, but more assurance: the sealed history of the world is administered by the crucified and risen King, and that is meant to comfort God's people. If you find this study helpful, subscribe, share it with a friend, and leave a review so more listeners can find it.Support the showBE PROVOKED AND BE PERSUADED!

    Who Is Worthy To Open The Seals (Rev. 5:1-4), part 3/4

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 31, 2026 32:22 Transcription Available


    Send us Fan MailA sealed scroll. A throne room blazing with majesty. A man weeping because it looks like no one can move history forward. Revelation 5 is not soft or sentimental, and our conversation treats it that way, with awe, tension, and a surprisingly practical focus on fear, suffering, and hope.We walk through the scene where John sees the scroll and feels the weight of it: God's plan of redemption, judgment, and victory. We talk about why John's tears make sense, why the church's assurance depends on the scroll being opened, and why Christ's worthiness is not a small detail but the center of worship. Along the way we challenge the modern habit of treating “revelation” as private, recreational spirituality, insisting that biblical revelation has a purpose: to authenticate God's message and to anchor God's people.Then we ask the question many believers whisper and many skeptics shout: if God is sovereign, why does He allow what's happening in the world? We explore how Revelation speaks directly to that question, and what fills the vacuum when people reject divine revelation. Luck, chance, fortune, empire worship, fear-driven conspiracy, and giving evil more credit than it deserves all rush in when God's voice is ignored. We close by pressing the personal application: if we are in the hands of an almighty God, what do we actually have to fear, and what kind of discernment comes only through the Holy Spirit and the new birth?If this helped you breathe again and think more clearly, subscribe for more, share it with a friend who's wrestling with fear, and leave a review so more listeners can find the series. What line from Revelation 5 challenges you the most right now?Support the showBE PROVOKED AND BE PERSUADED!

    Who Is Worthy To Open The Seals (Rev. 5:1-4), part 2/4

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 31, 2026 32:28 Transcription Available


    Send us Fan MailA strong angel shouts a question across heaven that still confronts us today: who is worthy to open the scroll? We dig into Revelation 5 and follow the logic all the way down. Strength does not make someone qualified, spiritual rank does not unlock God's counsel, and no created being, not the best saint, not the greatest prophet, not the highest angel, can unseal the plan that governs redemption and judgment.From there we connect worthiness to the Bible's diagnosis of humanity. Psalm 14 lands like a verdict, and the stories of Jeremiah and Moses show the right posture before God: not self-confidence, but dependence. God puts His word in the mouths of His servants, which means the messenger never becomes the source. That sets the stage for a deeper conversation about God's sovereignty, the hardest parts of providence, and why the language of God merely “allowing” what He did not ordain can quietly undermine trust in His promises.We also tackle the tension many people feel: if God orders all things, what do we do with evil, tragedy, and moral responsibility? We argue from Scripture that God's decree never creates a loophole for human guilt, and human choices never create a loophole in God's rule. Finally, we apply Revelation 5 to modern claims of continuing revelation, calling out systems built on visions, prophecies, and extra-biblical authority, and insisting that only Christ is worthy to reveal and to carry God's plan to completion.Subscribe for more Bible-rich conversations, share this with a friend who wrestles with sovereignty and suffering, and leave a review with your biggest question about Revelation 5.Support the showBE PROVOKED AND BE PERSUADED!

    Who Is Worthy To Open The Seals (Rev. 5:1-4), part 1/4

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 31, 2026 27:22 Transcription Available


    Send us Fan MailA sealed scroll sits in the right hand of the One on the throne, and John's vision in Revelation 5 forces a question most of us try to avoid: what if nothing in history is accidental. We take that image seriously and trace what it means for the way we read the news, process suffering, and handle the fear that spikes when the world feels unstable. If you've ever wondered whether God is reacting to events or actually ruling over them, this conversation aims straight at the nerve. We unpack why the scroll is written on both sides, why that detail points to completeness and certainty, and why the “right hand” language signals real authority and power. Along the way, we address the pushback people raise when they hear strong claims about God's sovereignty: if everything is decreed, why preach, why pray, and why act at all. Our answer is simple and demanding: God appoints means as well as ends, and obedience matters because God commands it, not because we are negotiating with him. Then we slow down at the seven seals and the strong angel's public challenge: who is worthy to open the book and loose the seals. Revelation 5 is not ultimately about human speculation, political insight, or secret knowledge. It is about worthiness, mediation, and the only One qualified to reveal and bring God's purposes to fruition, the Lamb of God, Jesus Christ. If you want a clearer, steadier view of providence, divine decree, Christian assurance, and why Revelation is meant to comfort the church, listen now, then subscribe, share the episode with a friend, and leave a review so more listeners can find it.Support the showBE PROVOKED AND BE PERSUADED!

    Daniel's 70 Weeks: Anointing of the Most Holy (Part 4/4)

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 30, 2026 32:23 Transcription Available


    Send us Fan MailIf you have ever heard someone say God saves people one way in the Old Testament, another way in the “church age,” and another way in a future tribulation, we push back hard and go straight to the text. We walk through why claims of multiple salvation methods are not a harmless difference in end times theology but a direct threat to the unity of the gospel and the finished work of Jesus Christ. A big focus is Daniel 9:24 and the “70th week of Daniel.” We talk through what it means to finish transgression, make reconciliation for iniquity, and bring in everlasting righteousness, then ask the question that keeps surfacing: if Christ fulfills these promises, what happens to a dispensational timeline that moves them thousands of years into the future? We also address common rapture frameworks, the logic of Christians being “gone” in Revelation-style scenarios, and the unavoidable follow-up question: if the Holy Spirit is absent later, how does salvation work then without creating another gospel? From there, we zoom out to the real-life impact. We talk about fear-based prophecy teaching, why “not appointed to wrath” points to freedom from condemnation, and why believers are equipped to endure tribulation rather than dodge it. We touch on the Israel and Church divide, the symbolic nature of Revelation, and why Scripture alone (sola scriptura) keeps us grounded when charts and speculation take over. If you care about biblical prophecy, dispensationalism, Daniel 9, the rapture, and what end times doctrine does to everyday Christian discipleship, this conversation is for you. If this helped you, subscribe, share it with a friend who loves prophecy charts, and leave a review so more listeners can find the show. What part of the Daniel 9 discussion do you most agree or disagree with?Support the showBE PROVOKED AND BE PERSUADED!

    Daniel's 70 Weeks: Anointing of the Most Holy (Part 3/4)

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 30, 2026 32:32 Transcription Available


    Send us Fan MailIf someone promised you a shortcut around suffering, would you notice the trap before it snapped shut? We wrestle with that question while taking on one of the biggest modern distractions in Christian eschatology: the push for a rebuilt temple in Jerusalem, revived animal sacrifices, and the constant “red heifer” prophecy buzz.We walk through why God's own testimony about Jesus matters so much, especially at the baptism where Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are seen together. From there we argue that Christ is the true temple, and that the old covenant system is not waiting in the wings for a comeback. Even if a new building goes up, we explain why it would not be a place where God dwells, and why returning to sacrifices would collide head-on with Hebrews and the finished work of Jesus.The conversation gets personal and pastoral as we talk pre-trib rapture expectations, the fear of tribulation, and how a comforting timeline can become a faith crisis when real trials arrive. We also dig into why sacrifices ceased, what the destruction of the temple in 70 AD means for Matthew 24, and why “worship in spirit and truth” cuts through the noise of location-based religion and prophetic scavenger hunts. Finally, we define dispensationalism in plain terms and name the point where it becomes spiritually dangerous: the claim that salvation changes across different “ages.”If this helped you think more clearly about the third temple, dispensationalism, Daniel 9, or end-times teaching, subscribe, share it with a friend, and leave a review with the biggest question you're still sorting out.Support the showBE PROVOKED AND BE PERSUADED!

    Daniel's 70 Weeks: Anointing of the Most Holy (Part 2/4)

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 30, 2026 32:57 Transcription Available


    Send us Fan MailDaniel 9:24 includes a phrase that has launched a thousand prophecy charts: “to anoint the most holy.” We argue that the text doesn't point to a distant future event, but straight to Jesus Christ and the completed work of his first coming. That claim has big implications, so we walk it slowly and back it with Scripture, not vibes, connecting the “acceptable year of the Lord” to the kingdom reality believers live in right now. We also tie the anointing theme to the Holy Spirit and Pentecost. Using temple language from the Old Testament, we explain why the Spirit's indwelling is the New Covenant sign of God's presence, and why being “in Christ” means the glory of God dwells in his people. Along the way, we talk about spiritual order, the difference between maturity and spiritual showmanship, and why prayer, fellowship, serving the needy, and growing in the Word matter more than chasing the spectacular. Then we put key passages on the table: Mark 14:8 on Jesus being anointed “to the burying,” Luke 4:18 on the Spirit anointing Christ to preach and heal, Acts 10:38 on God anointing Jesus with the Holy Ghost and power, and Hebrews 1 on the forever throne and “scepter of righteousness.” We close by linking Psalm 2 with Acts 4 and pressing a simple point: “Messiah” and “Christ” literally mean Anointed One, so what does that do to a future seven-year tribulation timeline? If this sharpened your view of Daniel's seventy weeks, subscribe, share the episode with a friend who loves end-times debates, and leave a review. What verse most challenges your current view of prophecy?Support the showBE PROVOKED AND BE PERSUADED!

    Daniel's 70 Weeks: Anointing of the Most Holy (Part 1/4)

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 30, 2026 33:06 Transcription Available


    Send us Fan MailDaniel 9:24 is one of those passages people quote to build entire end times systems, but what if its real purpose is far simpler and far more confrontational: to spotlight Jesus Christ and what his cross actually accomplished? We take the “seventy weeks” prophecy seriously on its own terms, starting where the text starts, with “thy people” and “thy holy city.” Then we trace the six promised outcomes one by one and ask a single question that changes everything: do these realities belong to Calvary or to a future tribulation story?We make the case that “finish the transgression,” “make an end of sins,” and “make reconciliation for iniquity” are not dangling promises waiting for a later era. They land on the gospel: Christ crucified, Christ risen, and sinners counted righteous through his work. That leads straight into “everlasting righteousness” as present assurance for believers, not a delayed benefit. From there, we tackle the harder debates, including what it means to “seal up vision and prophecy” and why modern claims of new prophetic words collapse if they won't be treated as God's infallible Word.Finally, we walk through “anoint the most holy” and argue that the most holy is not a future building project but Jesus himself, the true temple raised in three days. Along the way we push back on tribulation-driven interpretations that can turn Christianity into speculation, and we end with a sober reminder: enduring faith in suffering may be the clearest evidence of the Spirit's work. If this helped you think clearer about Daniel's seventy weeks, share it with a friend, subscribe, and leave a review with your biggest takeaway.Support the showBE PROVOKED AND BE PERSUADED!

    ESSENTIAL BAPTISM - part 4/4

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 30, 2026 35:10 Transcription Available


    Send us Fan Mail“Baptism now saves you” can land like a mic drop or a problem, depending on what you think the rest of the New Testament teaches. We sit down for an honest, Scripture-heavy conversation about Christian baptism, salvation by grace through faith, and what 1 Peter 3:21 is actually saying when it links baptism to a “good conscience toward God.” Is water baptism the cause of salvation, or the response that naturally follows a heart already changed by Christ?A turning point comes when Lisa shares her testimony: raised Catholic, not taught to read the Bible, then born again in 2020 with a dramatic change she can't explain away. She was baptized as a baby and later felt the Holy Spirit pressing her to be baptized as a believer two years after she knew she was saved. Her question is the one many Christians quietly carry: if baptism came later, was the conversion real? We respond by walking through the Great Commission in Matthew 28, patterns in Acts, and what obedience looks like after faith.We also open Romans 6, Titus 3:5, and the language of washing, regeneration, and circumcision of the heart. Along the way, we challenge sloppy slogans, talk about why “saved” doesn't always mean the same thing in every verse, and keep returning to the core: Jesus' blood is the basis for remission of sins, and baptism is a commanded, meaningful, public act of discipleship that believers should desire. If you care about biblical baptism, assurance of salvation, and how to read hard verses in context, this one will stretch you. Subscribe, share with a friend who's wrestling with baptism, and leave a review with your take: is baptism required for salvation, or required because we're saved?Support the showBE PROVOKED AND BE PERSUADED!

    ESSENTIAL BAPTISM - part 3/4

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 30, 2026 35:25 Transcription Available


    Send us Fan MailIf you've ever heard “baptism saves” and felt your stomach drop, we get it and we slow the whole conversation down to the text. We start with a commitment we wish every Bible teacher would make: don't say anything from God's Word you can't defend, and still leave room to admit you might be wrong. That's the tone we're aiming for, even when the topic is a flashpoint for churches and families.We work through key passages that shape the debate around water baptism and salvation by grace through faith: Acts 16 and the jailer's question, Acts 2:38 and “the gift of the Holy Spirit,” Acts 8 and apostolic laying on of hands, and 1 Corinthians 12:13 on being baptized into one body. Along the way we address the modern baggage people bring to “baptism of the Holy Spirit,” including Pentecostal and charismatic claims about tongues, being “slain in the Spirit,” and treating a dramatic experience as proof that someone is truly saved.Then we camp out in 1 Peter 3:18–21 and Noah's flood, where the Bible itself forces us to ask what kind of “saving” is in view, and why Peter immediately redirects us from outward washing to the inward reality of a clean conscience through the resurrection of Jesus Christ. There's even a tense moment that gets resolved with a direct apology, because how we speak to each other is part of our witness too.If you care about baptism, the Holy Spirit, and reading the book of Acts responsibly without turning disagreement into division, press play. Subscribe, share this with a friend who loves Scripture, and leave a review with the verse that most shapes your view.Support the showBE PROVOKED AND BE PERSUADED!

    ESSENTIAL BAPTISM - part 2/4

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 30, 2026 35:22 Transcription Available


    Send us Fan MailOne sentence can flip baptism from a joyful act of obedience into a gate you have to pass to be saved, and we felt the weight of that difference in real time. We start with shared ground: baptism and communion matter, Christians should be baptized, and nobody should treat this like a petty argument. Then we push into the hard question people actually ask in church hallways and comment sections: does water baptism save you, or does it show that you've already been saved by grace through faith?From Pentecost in Acts 2 to the Ethiopian eunuch in Acts 8, we trace the order of events the Bible presents: conviction, repentance, belief, confession, baptism, and being added to the church. Along the way we challenge assumptions about what it means to be “pricked in the heart,” whether every convicted person has a changed heart, and why the text says, “If you believe with all your heart, you may.” We also wrestle with Jesus' baptism in Matthew 3, asking why the sinless Christ chooses baptism “to fulfill all righteousness,” and what baptism means if its core idea is identification.The conversation turns sharper when we address verses people lean on most, including Colossians 2 and Acts 22:16, and when we confront a modern flashpoint: baptism “in Jesus' name” versus “in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.” Can a wording formula become a salvation test, and what happens when Christians make baptism the dividing line instead of Christ Himself?Subscribe for more Scripture-first conversations, share this with a friend who's stuck on the baptism question, and leave a review with your answer: is baptism essential for salvation or essential because of salvation?Support the showBE PROVOKED AND BE PERSUADED!

    ESSENTIAL BAPTISM - part 1/4

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 30, 2026 35:32 Transcription Available


    Send us Fan MailA single question can expose what we really believe about grace: if someone trusts Jesus Christ but never reaches the baptismal water, are they saved? We go straight at that tension and refuse to hide behind slogans. What starts as a clash over “essential baptism” turns into a deeper conversation about salvation by faith, biblical language, and why Christians must be careful not to confuse a sign with the Savior.We unpack what baptism means through the lens of identification and walk through multiple baptisms shown in Scripture: John's water baptism of repentance, Jesus' baptism with its unique purpose, and the baptism of the Holy Spirit promised in Acts. From there we open it up to the panel and ask the blunt question many churches avoid: is water baptism required for salvation? The answers split, and the disagreement gets real as we pressure test both views with hard, human scenarios like disability, lack of access, and deathbed faith.Along the way, we also address a wider issue in the modern church: how bold personalities can sound convincing while teaching serious error about the deity of Christ, and why attachment to a preacher is never a substitute for attachment to the Word of God. We close by clarifying how traditions talk about baptism and communion as sacraments or ordinances and what those categories do to your theology of salvation.If you care about Christian baptism, Acts 1:5, Acts 2:38, the Holy Spirit, and the line between gospel clarity and church tradition, this one is for you. Subscribe, share this with a friend who's debating baptism, and leave a review with your answer: is water baptism essential for salvation, and why?Support the showBE PROVOKED AND BE PERSUADED!

    Zeal for God Without Knowledge (Rom. 10:1-3), part 3/3

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 29, 2026 46:11 Transcription Available


    Send us Fan MailDispensationalism isn't just an “end times preference” when it rewires how you read the whole Bible. We dig into why the Israel versus church split collapses the unity of Scripture, how prophecy gets shoved into a manufactured future, and why that move often pulls attention away from the one fulfillment that actually matters: Jesus Christ and his finished gospel.We also talk about the real-world fallout, from constant Antichrist speculation to fear-based teaching on the mark of the beast and a rapture escape plan. Then we get practical and controversial: study Bibles and reference notes. When a publisher drops man-made commentary right alongside God's Word, many readers absorb opinions as if they're Scripture, and generations can be discipled by footnotes instead of the text.From there we return to Romans 10 and slow down on Paul's point: zeal has to be governed by knowledge. Trying to establish our own righteousness is the oldest trap in religion, and the law was never meant to be a ladder into God's favor, but a mirror that drives us to faith alone in Christ alone. If you want a Christ-centered way to read the Bible that stays coherent from Genesis to Revelation, press play, then subscribe, share this with a friend, and leave a review with your biggest takeaway.Support the showBE PROVOKED AND BE PERSUADED!

    Zeal for God Without Knowledge (Rom. 10:1-3), part 2/3

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 29, 2026 46:12 Transcription Available


    Send us Fan MailA lot of Christians can quote prophecy, argue about the Antichrist, and still miss what the Bible is actually doing: pointing everything to Jesus. We start by tackling dispensationalism and why we believe it fractures the story of Scripture by forcing a separation between Israel and the church, then pushing fulfilled promises into an imagined future. When that happens, the spotlight drifts from Christ's finished work to timelines, political theories, and endless speculation, and the gospel gets treated like a prologue instead of the center.We dig into why prophecy fulfillment belongs to Christ, not to modern nation-states or headline-driven end times charts. Along the way we talk about how passages like Daniel 9 get reinterpreted, why reducing “Antichrist” to one future figure can blind us to antichrist systems at work right now, and how fear-based teaching about tribulation and the mark of the beast can leave believers unprepared for real-world pressure on faithfulness. The goal isn't to win a label fight, but to guard the honor of Jesus and keep our doctrine anchored to what he has already accomplished.Then we return to Romans 10 and the practical heart of it all: zeal must be joined to spiritual knowledge, and righteousness is not something we build through effort, tradition, or sincerity. God's righteousness is provided in Christ and received by faith alone. We also challenge the hidden influence of study Bibles and reference notes that can train you to read a system into the text rather than letting Scripture interpret Scripture. If this helped you think more clearly about dispensationalism, covenant theology, and a Christ-centered reading of the Bible, subscribe, share this with a friend, and leave a review so more people can find the show.Support the showBE PROVOKED AND BE PERSUADED!

    Zeal for God Without Knowledge (Rom. 10:1-3), part 1/3

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 29, 2026 43:58 Transcription Available


    Send us Fan MailPaul's words in Romans 10 feel uncomfortably current: “They have a zeal for God, but not according to knowledge.” We sit with Romans 10:1-4 and trace how Paul can teach hard truths about God's purposes while still aching for real people to be saved. That mix of conviction and compassion is something many of us lose, especially when we confuse religious identity, family tradition, or church activity with the new birth. We talk through why zeal, sincerity, and moral effort can look impressive and still leave someone alienated from God. Paul's charge is not that Israel had too little religion, but that their religious energy aimed at the wrong target. The conversation keeps coming back to the core gospel message: the righteousness that saves is not something we manufacture. It is the righteousness God provides in Christ, received by faith. That is what it means that Christ is “the end of the law for righteousness” to everyone who believes. From there, we get practical about discernment. We challenge the habit of treating knowledge as a threat to spirituality, and we push back on the idea that passion can substitute for truth. Ben also asks for clarity on dispensationalism, and we define it, explain why it separates the church and Israel, and why we believe it distorts the way Christians read prophecy and fulfillment. If you care about Romans 10, salvation by faith, the righteousness of God, and how to spot misplaced zeal before it hardens into pride, press play. Subscribe, share this with a friend who loves Scripture, and leave a review with your biggest takeaway.Support the showBE PROVOKED AND BE PERSUADED!

    Does ANYONE Have the RIGHT to Exist? (Rom. 9:24-33), part 4/4

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 28, 2026 29:41 Transcription Available


    Send us Fan MailJesus doesn't just inspire people, He divides them. Romans 9:33 calls Him a stumbling stone and a rock of offense, and we lean into why that's still true today even among people who call themselves Christians. If the idea that Christ does it all, fully and finally, feels offensive to our pride, that reaction may reveal exactly what the gospel confronts: our need to be rescued, not consulted.We walk slowly through the promise that “whosoever believes on him shall not be ashamed,” connecting it to substitutionary atonement and imputed righteousness. The conversation gets practical as we ask whether a believer can lose salvation and what that claim implies about what Jesus did on the cross. We keep coming back to Scripture's internal logic: if Christ truly took our sin and truly gives His righteousness, then faith in Him cannot end in disappointment. This is assurance of salvation meant to steady real people, not a talking point meant to score points.Then we turn the mirror toward ourselves. Does Christ embarrass you, do you stay quiet when you should speak, do you treat faith like a secret? The panel shares personal reflections and passages from across the Bible, celebrating the continuity of God's plan and the humility of depending on Him. We close by gathering around Cody in prayer, asking God for strength in the valley and endurance for tomorrow, and we look ahead to continuing our Romans Bible study in chapter 10.If this helped you rest more firmly on Christ, subscribe, share it with a friend who needs assurance, and leave a review so more people can find the conversation.Support the showBE PROVOKED AND BE PERSUADED!

    Does ANYONE Have the RIGHT to Exist? (Rom. 9:24-33), part 3/4

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 28, 2026 29:52 Transcription Available


    Send us Fan MailThe word “Israel” gets thrown around like it is self-explanatory, but Romans 9 refuses to let us keep it vague. We take Paul's argument seriously: national Israel functions as a type, and God's saving purpose is realized in what he calls his true people, defined not by bloodline but by mercy and faith. That is why we keep coming back to the same uncomfortable theme Paul quotes from Isaiah, that only a remnant is saved, and that it was never going to be otherwise.We walk through Romans 9:27–29 and the prophetic logic behind the remnant, then ask the question head-on: who is Israel? Pulling from Romans 2, Galatians 6:16, and 1 Peter 2, we talk about inward identity, heart circumcision, and the church as God's holy nation. Along the way, we clarify “Lord of Sabaoth” as the Lord of hosts, highlighting that the remnant exists because God intervenes, not because any people group earns special standing.Then we pivot to Romans 9:30–33, where the rubber meets the road: Gentiles attain righteousness by faith, while Israel stumbles because righteousness is pursued by works. We connect that to modern debates about losing salvation and the temptation to mix covenants, insisting that grace and works cannot be blended without gutting the gospel. If you want a clearer view of sovereign grace, assurance, and why Christ becomes a stumbling stone to religious effort, press play, then subscribe, share, and leave a review with your biggest takeaway.Support the showBE PROVOKED AND BE PERSUADED!

    Does ANYONE Have the RIGHT to Exist? (Rom. 9:24-33), part 2/4

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 28, 2026 29:46 Transcription Available


    Send us Fan MailThe hardest parts of Romans 9 aren't the vocabulary, they're the implications. When Paul looks at Israel's unbelief and still says God's word has not failed, he's not dodging reality, he's explaining it. We walk line by line through the logic: Jew and Gentile stand on equal ground, God's saving plan doesn't wobble with human resistance, and “vessels of mercy” are called from both groups into one family in Christ. If you've ever wondered how election, predestination, and grace fit with the Old Testament story, this conversation is built to help you think clearly.We also follow Paul's method, because he doesn't make bold claims without Scripture. Romans 9:25-26 pulls from Hosea to show that the “not my people” would be named God's people, and the “not beloved” would be called beloved. That divine calling doesn't just rename an old identity, it creates a new one. We talk about new birth, the reversal of status, and why being called “children of the living God” leaves no room for spiritual class systems based on ancestry or background.From there we bring in Philippians and Paul's warning about Judaizers, then we let Isaiah speak: Israel may be as the sand of the sea, yet only a remnant is saved. We close by connecting that remnant theme to Old Testament fulfillment texts in Joshua and by challenging modern dispensational assumptions with a covenant-focused reading that centers Christ and his church. If this sharpened your thinking, subscribe, share the episode, and leave a review, then tell us what passage you want us to tackle next.Support the showBE PROVOKED AND BE PERSUADED!

    Does ANYONE Have the RIGHT to Exist? (Rom. 9:24-33), part 1/4

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 28, 2026 24:12 Transcription Available


    Send us Fan MailRomans 9:24 sounds simple until you slow down and let it hit: God calls “even us,” and that “us” includes Jews and Gentiles on the same footing. We walk through Paul's argument step by step, starting with the potter and the clay and then zeroing in on what it means to be a “vessel of mercy” prepared beforehand for glory. The focus is not human potential or religious advantage, but the way God makes known the riches of his glory through sovereign mercy.We also draw a bright line between an outward invitation to hear the gospel and the inward, effectual calling that actually brings sinners to Christ and produces faith. That distinction matters because it explains why the “called” can only point to God, not to personal merit, willpower, family history, or moral achievement. It is meant to humble us, steady our assurance, and keep grace at the center where Paul keeps putting it.From there, we tackle the tension Paul anticipates: if many ethnic Israelites reject the Messiah, has God's word failed? We follow Romans 9:6 and the claim that “not all Israel is Israel,” clarifying the difference between physical descent and the Israel of promise. We close by previewing the transition into Romans 9:25–29 and tying the theme to John 3:16 as God's love for the world without distinction or partiality.If this sharpened your thinking, subscribe for more, share it with a friend who loves Romans, and leave a review with your take: how do you understand God's calling in Romans 9:24?Support the showBE PROVOKED AND BE PERSUADED!

    Lump of Clay: Vessels of Mercy, Vessels of Wrath (Rom. 9:21-23), part 4/4

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 27, 2026 37:49 Transcription Available


    Send us Fan MailYou can spend a lifetime trying to find the one thing that makes you “worthy” of God's mercy, and Romans 9 cuts that search off at the root. We talk through the stunning claim that we are vessels of mercy not because of foreseen merit, not because God looked ahead and saw we would believe first, and not because our will is somehow better than someone else's. We are made from the same lump, and the only reason any of us stands is sovereign grace.From there, we wrestle with what Paul is doing across Romans 9 through 11: stripping away boasting in outward privilege and putting the spotlight where it belongs. Salvation becomes a theater where the riches of God's glory are displayed as guilty sinners are pardoned, justified, adopted, sanctified, preserved, and ultimately glorified. That isn't abstract Reformed theology for debate points; it's meant to bring comfort to the soul and produce a grateful, humble walk.We also tackle assurance of salvation head-on. If God “prepared beforehand unto glory,” what does that say about losing salvation? We connect the logic of predestination, calling, justification, and glorification to the keeping power of God and the finished work of Christ. We close with a practical discernment filter for confusing doctrines: does the teaching lead you to the Creator or the creation, and does it land on Christ as the answer?If this encouraged you, subscribe, share it with a friend who needs rest, and leave a review so more people can find the conversation.Support the showBE PROVOKED AND BE PERSUADED!

    Lump of Clay: Vessels of Mercy, Vessels of Wrath (Rom. 9:21-23), part 3/4

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 27, 2026 37:41 Transcription Available


    Send us Fan MailGod could end evil in an instant, so why doesn't He? We start with Israel watching the Red Sea open, then doubting almost immediately, and we follow that same human pattern into one of the hardest themes in Christian theology: God's long suffering. We talk about why divine patience should never be mistaken for approval, weakness, or indifference, and why the delay of judgment is part of a deliberate purpose that's unfolding across history. From Pharaoh and the plagues to Romans 9, we explore how God patiently endures rebellion while still directing outcomes, and how that patience leaves the final judgment unmistakably just. Then we tackle the “same lump of clay” argument head-on by bringing Judas into the picture: we're not saved because we're better, and the lost aren't condemned because they're made from different material. The difference is mercy and grace, not superior clay. We also debate whether God's sovereignty and human responsibility run like parallel train tracks or whether they truly intersect, using Proverbs, God's decree, and the idea of God employing real human desires as real means. Along the way, we touch on election language from Romans 11 and keep returning to the central thread: God's glory. Salvation isn't only rescue; it's God making known the riches of His glory on vessels of mercy prepared beforehand for glory. If you've ever wondered how patience, justice, sovereignty, and human accountability fit together, this conversation will stretch you in the best way. Subscribe, share this with a friend who loves deep Bible study, and leave a review. Where do you land on the “parallel vs intersecting” question?Support the showBE PROVOKED AND BE PERSUADED!

    Lump of Clay: Vessels of Mercy, Vessels of Wrath (Rom. 9:21-23), part 2/4

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 27, 2026 37:45 Transcription Available


    Send us Fan MailPredestination gets treated like a math problem, but Romans treats it like a window into God's mercy and our humility. We argue for a clear distinction many people miss: God mercifully intervenes to save, while judgment happens as God does not intervene to stop rebels from pursuing what they already want. That's why we call “double predestination” a false symmetry, and why Romans 8:29 matters so much when it says predestination has a purpose: conformity to the image of Christ. From there, we lean hard into Romans 9 and the potter and clay. If all humanity is the same fallen “lump,” then nobody negotiates their way into the kingdom and nobody gets to boast. We talk openly about how modern religion often denies the fall, turns salvation into a personal deal-making process, and resists the idea that God has the right to do what he wills with what belongs to him. Along the way, we also address end-times assumptions tied to dispensationalism and rapture teaching that divides Jew and Gentile, and we explain why that clashes with the “same lump” reality. We also unpack one of the most debated phrases in the chapter: “vessels of wrath fitted to destruction” versus “vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared for glory.” We connect that wording to divine hardening, God's long-suffering, and Pharaoh's role in displaying God's power to his people, with a forward look to the justice-and-worship themes echoed in Revelation. If you want biblical clarity without flattery, press play, then subscribe, share the episode, and leave a review with your biggest question or pushback.Support the showBE PROVOKED AND BE PERSUADED!

    Lump of Clay: Vessels of Mercy, Vessels of Wrath (Rom. 9:21-23), part 1/4

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 27, 2026 34:31 Transcription Available


    Send us Fan MailRomans 9 doesn't leave room for religious pride, and it doesn't let us soften the sharp edges with word games. We pick up at Romans 9:21 and walk straight into the potter and clay picture, where Paul insists there is “the same lump” of fallen humanity and God has the right to form vessels for honor and for dishonor. That single phrase knocks out the assumption that anyone has a better starting point with God because of heritage, culture, or any other external advantage.We also tackle the pushback Paul expects: “Why does he still find fault?” If God is sovereign, is that injustice? We argue no, because mercy is never owed, and judgment is righteous because of real sin. We make a careful distinction between how God saves and how God judges: grace is God's active rescue that creates a new heart with new desires, while condemnation is God withholding mercy he is not obligated to give, leaving sinners in the state they already chose.Along the way, we challenge the habit of calling parts of God's Word “secondary,” and we point out how the gospel runs from the Old Testament prophets to Christ without changing. If you've wrestled with predestination, sovereign election, free will, or the fairness question, this is a thoughtful place to sit with the text and let it speak. Subscribe, share this with a friend who loves Romans, and leave a review with the question you still can't shake.Support the showBE PROVOKED AND BE PERSUADED!

    Abigail and David, part 3/3

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 27, 2026 39:13 Transcription Available


    Send us Fan MailPeace with God isn't a vibe. It's a position. We start with a simple but unsettling claim: you are either at peace with God or you are at war with Him, and “indifference” isn't one of the options. From there, we talk honestly about fear of the Lord, the point of judgment language in Scripture, and why we'll take whatever God uses to bring someone to Christ, fear or love, as long as it ends in repentance and faith.Then we walk through 1 Samuel 25 and the collision between David, Nabal, and Abigail. One of Nabal's own servants testifies that David's men were “very good” and a protective wall day and night, which pushes us to ask a hard question: how often do we live inside God's grace and act like it's nothing? We talk about the meaning of Nabal's name, why details like names and repeated phrases matter, and how the story exposes what spiritual foolishness looks like in real life.The biggest spotlight lands on Abigail's urgency. The text keeps repeating that she “made haste,” and we treat that repetition like a neon sign for discipleship: don't delay obedience, don't hide behind excuses, and don't wait until disaster is already moving downhill. We also dig into “behold” moments in the Bible, and we end by exploring typology of Christ, including how this story can point to the gospel and even hint at end-times themes we plan to unpack next, including a critique of pre-tribulation rapture teaching.If this challenged you, share it with a friend, subscribe for the next live Bible study, and leave a review so more people can find it. What part of the story felt like it was written straight at you?Support the showBE PROVOKED AND BE PERSUADED!

    Abigail and David, part 2/3

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 27, 2026 39:39 Transcription Available


    Send us Fan MailPeace is not weakness, and the Bible makes that painfully clear in 1 Samuel 25. We sit with the story of David, Nabal, and Abigail and watch how David approaches a wealthy, hostile man: he sends emissaries first, he blesses, he clarifies his intent, and he offers peace. That single move reframes how we think about Christian evangelism, gospel witness, and what it looks like to represent a King who does not need to bully anyone to prove His authority.From there, we dig into the details that are easy to miss. David tells Nabal to ask the men from his own household who have been with David, because testimony and lived character matter when trust is thin. We talk about why so many believers are afraid to speak openly about Jesus Christ, and how God often uses “insiders” to soften a hardened heart. We also focus on a sharp line for every Christian communicator: the messengers speak according to the master's words and then they cease. No freelancing, no twisting, no escalating just to win.Then the conflict turns. Nabal's rejection sounds modern: who is David, why should I listen, and haven't lots of “servants” broken away with their own messages? We connect that posture to false gospels, the many-versions excuse, and the deeper reality that rejecting the Son also rejects the Father. And we end where the text ends: if peace with God is refused, what is left to ask for?Subscribe for more Bible study that connects Scripture to real life, share this with a friend who needs courage to witness, and leave a review telling us what part of 1 Samuel 25 challenged you most.Support the showBE PROVOKED AND BE PERSUADED!

    Abigail and David, part 1/3

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 27, 2026 39:46 Transcription Available


    Send us Fan MailA single insult almost turns into a massacre, and the only thing standing between rage and ruin is discernment. We walk through 1 Samuel 25 line by line, watching Nabal reject a reasonable request, seeing David strap on a sword, and then meeting Abigail at the exact moment wisdom has to move fast. Her gifts, her words, and her posture are not just “nice,” they are strategically peacemaking, and they expose how dangerous self-avenging can be even for someone with a strong calling.As we talk, we keep pulling the camera back to the bigger question: how does this story connect to salvation? We ask where Christ is visible in the Old Testament, why the Bible keeps returning to the need for a mediator, and how peace is offered before judgment arrives. One phrase becomes a centerpiece for the whole episode: “Greet him in my name.” We explore representation, authority, and what it means to be sent as ambassadors with a message of peace, including how people can look “prosperous” while still missing the peace that only God gives.We also challenge the modern habit of treating the Old Testament as optional reading. The patterns are the same across generations: invitations are sent, warnings are given, hearts reveal themselves, and God restrains wrongdoing while advancing his purposes. If you want a Bible study that connects Nabal, Abigail, and David to the gospel, repentance, and preparing the way like John the Baptist, you'll find plenty to chew on here. Subscribe, share this with a friend who loves Scripture, and leave a review telling us: who do you most relate to in 1 Samuel 25?Support the showBE PROVOKED AND BE PERSUADED!

    Nay But, Oh Man, Who are You That Replies Against God, (Rom. 9:19), p 3/3

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 26, 2026 37:08 Transcription Available


    Send us Fan MailYou can ask God hard questions without putting Him on the stand. That's the line we keep coming back to as we work through Romans and the uncomfortable moment where the creature wants to argue with the Creator. If you've ever read about election, predestination, or mercy and felt the urge to say, “That can't be right,” this conversation slows down and insists on a better starting point: God is righteous, and we are not the judge. We dig into the potter and the clay, why “replying against God” is different from seeking understanding, and why it's actually more honest to say, “I don't know,” than to dismiss what Scripture says. Then we go to Romans 8:29 to get specific: predestination has a purpose, being conformed to the image of Christ. That clarity reshapes common arguments, including the way people talk about “double predestination,” and it anchors the doctrine in transformation rather than speculation. Along the way, we talk mercy that is free rather than owed, condemnation tied to real guilt, and how God's sovereignty can bring rest instead of fear. A vivid pottery-class story makes the point concrete: shaping, pressure, fire, and final purpose, all under the hands of the maker. If you want a Bible study that treats God's sovereignty with reverence while still taking human responsibility seriously, press play. Subscribe, share this with a friend who loves Romans, and leave a review with your biggest question about sovereignty and free will.Support the showBE PROVOKED AND BE PERSUADED!

    Nay But, Oh Man, Who are You That Replies Against God, (Rom. 9:19), p 2/3

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 26, 2026 37:05 Transcription Available


    Send us Fan MailIf you have ever heard “God is sovereign” and immediately thought, “Then how am I responsible?” you are hearing the exact tension Romans 9 expects you to feel. We walk straight into that question and refuse the easy outs. We talk about divine sovereignty and human accountability as two truths Scripture holds together, not a puzzle to solve by weakening God's rule or excusing human sin. Along the way we clarify a key distinction: God's decreed will cannot finally be resisted, while his revealed commands are resisted every day by people who resist willingly. Then we tackle the word that lights up arguments fast: fairness. We explore why treating grace as something God must give equally turns mercy into a debt, and why that quietly shifts glory from God to man. We also answer common pushbacks like “That would make us robots” and “God just cherry-picks,” showing how Paul's response confronts our assumption that the Creator must answer to the creature's standards. This conversation stays rooted in biblical theology, salvation by grace, election, justice and mercy, and the humility the gospel demands. Listener questions take us into everyday implications: Can our relationship with Jesus become transactional? Why do believers still sin if God truly saves? What does sanctification look like in real life? We tie in Scripture examples like Lazarus being raised, Noah's ark, Pharaoh, and Lydia to highlight God's initiative in giving life and opening hearts, while keeping human responsibility intact. If you want a Romans 9 conversation that is direct, biblical, and unafraid, listen now, then subscribe, share the episode with a friend, and leave a review with your biggest takeaway.Support the showBE PROVOKED AND BE PERSUADED!

    Nay But, Oh Man, Who are You That Replies Against God, (Rom. 9:19), p 1/3

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 26, 2026 32:29 Transcription Available


    Send us Fan MailThe question sounds reasonable until you realize what it smuggles in: “If God chooses, why does He still find fault?” Romans 9:19 is the protest people raise when they hear Paul say God has mercy on whom He will and hardens whom He will. We take that objection seriously, slow down, and follow Paul's logic instead of trying to rescue God with our own idea of fairness.We talk about divine sovereignty, election, and predestination using the very examples Paul uses: Jacob and Esau, Moses, and Pharaoh. Then we tackle the tension that trips up so many Christians: God's purpose cannot be resisted, yet humans remain real moral agents who sin willingly and are accountable for it. That means God's mercy does not cancel responsibility, and His hardening does not require Him to create evil in an innocent person.A major theme is the definition of mercy itself. Mercy presupposes guilt and carries no obligation. If God “owes” mercy, it stops being mercy and becomes a debt. From there, we draw a clean line between justice and mercy, not justice and injustice, and we use practical analogies to show why selective mercy is not unfair when no one has a rightful claim to it.If Romans 9 has ever made you uncomfortable, you're not alone. Listen, share it with a friend who loves theological honesty, and leave a review. What do you think Paul is protecting in Romans 9:19: God's justice, God's freedom, or both?Support the showBE PROVOKED AND BE PERSUADED!

    COME UP HITHER (Revelation 4), part 4/4

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 24, 2026 34:50 Transcription Available


    Send us Fan MailIf you have ever been told God has to step back so your free will can be the deciding factor in salvation, we want to challenge that assumption head-on. We start with the tension it creates in Christian fellowship, then we name the deeper issue: a man-centered gospel quietly trains us to thank ourselves for what only grace can do. From there, everything turns when we open Revelation 4, because John's first sight is not a debate, a timeline, or a theory. It is a throne. We walk slowly through the throne room scene and why it matters that God is seated, not scrambling, while thunder and lightning declare His authority. We talk about what it means for God to decree rather than merely foresee, and why worship is the right response when you realize the Creator governs history. We also address how end-times conversations can drift into “How do I escape?” thinking, and why the Bible keeps pulling us back to the glory of Christ and the beauty of holiness. Then we camp out on one of the most striking pictures in Revelation: the twenty-four elders falling down and casting their crowns before God. We unpack what those crowns represent, why the redeemed refuse to boast, and how “for Your pleasure” reframes creation, sanctification, and assurance of salvation. If Revelation has ever felt only scary or confusing, we argue it is also designed to give comfort and calm to the church before the hard chapters arrive. If this helped you see God's sovereignty and Revelation 4 with fresh eyes, subscribe, share the episode with a friend, and leave a review so more people can find the show. What part of the throne room vision brings you the most peace?Support the showBE PROVOKED AND BE PERSUADED!

    COME UP HITHER (Revelation 4), part 3/4

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 24, 2026 34:41 Transcription Available


    Send us Fan MailThunder that rattles your chest. Lightning that splits the sky. An earthquake that makes you feel like you might die. We take those moments seriously, not as random chaos, but as prompts to remember who rules the world. Then we step into Revelation 4 and let the Bible give us language for what we cannot see yet: God's throne, God's order, and worship that never runs out. We walk through the “seven spirits” and what that says about the Holy Spirit's complete work to illumine, purify, search, and empower. From there, we slow down at the sea of glass like crystal and talk about why it signals calm, purity, and total control before the throne. We also explore the four living creatures full of eyes, what their watchfulness means, and why the lion, ox, man, and eagle imagery has fueled rich discussion across Scripture, including connections people make to the four Gospels and to how Jesus is revealed as King, Servant, Son of Man, and Son of God. The center of gravity is worship: “Holy, holy, holy, Lord God Almighty, which was and is and is to come.” We wrestle with what it means that praise does not stop, and we bring it down to street level with uncomfortable, necessary questions about our own lives: Do we actually give God glory, honor, and thanks, especially in hardship, or do we settle for religious words without a grateful heart? If you care about Bible study, Revelation, God's holiness, and Christian worship that feels real, press play. Subscribe, share the episode with a friend, and leave a review with your biggest takeaway.Support the showBE PROVOKED AND BE PERSUADED!

    COME UP HITHER (Revelation 4), part 2/4

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 24, 2026 34:40 Transcription Available


    Send us Fan MailRevelation 4:1 gets quoted all the time as “proof” of a pre-tribulation rapture, but when we slow down and read the verse carefully, a problem shows up fast: the text names John, not the church. We put that claim under a bright light, not to win an argument, but to model honest Bible study and simple accountability. If a doctrine needs you to squeeze meaning out of silence, we think it deserves a hard second look.From there, we move into what Revelation 4 is actually doing. John's throne room vision is packed with biblical symbolism: precious stones that communicate God's unapproachable beauty and purity, a rainbow that calls back covenant mercy after the flood, and a throne that is not passive but active. We talk about how lightning, thunder, and voices echo Sinai and remind us that God's power is not abstract. The point is reverence, clarity, and courage for believers who need to remember who truly reigns.We also unpack the twenty-four elders, their white garments, and their crowns, and why this scene portrays the complete people of God in priestly and royal dignity. That changes how we see the church: not just struggling on earth, but seated with Christ, sharing in his rule, and called to speak and live with his authority. We end by touching the “seven spirits of God” as a picture of the Holy Spirit's fullness at work in all God's purposes.If you care about Revelation, the rapture, dispensationalism, or just learning how to interpret Scripture without hype, listen through and then test everything against the text. Subscribe, share with a friend who loves end-times debates, and leave a review with your biggest question after hearing our take.Support the showBE PROVOKED AND BE PERSUADED!

    COME UP HITHER (Revelation 4), part 1/4

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 24, 2026 29:28 Transcription Available


    Send us Fan MailRevelation 4 opens with a simple image that changes the whole book: a door standing open in heaven. That moment is not a shortcut to end-times panic, and it is not a coded reference to a secret rapture. It is a shift in perspective. We go from the ground-level view of the seven churches to the throne-room view, where God shows John what earthly events look like from heaven and why believers can read Revelation with steadiness instead of fear.We take a careful look at Revelation 4:1, including the “trumpet-like” voice and the command “come up here,” and we ask a basic but often ignored question: where does the text mention the rapture, the church disappearing, or a tribulation schedule? It doesn't. We also talk about how dispensationalism, especially through names like Darby and Scofield, helped popularize interpretations that many Christians assume are simply “what Revelation says,” even when the passage itself stays silent.Then we lean into the heart of the chapter: John is “in the Spirit,” and the first thing he sees is a throne. Before seals, beasts, judgments, or headlines, Revelation centers God's sovereign rule. History is not chaos, not fate, and not ultimately controlled by earthly leaders. That truth is meant to comfort the church through trials and keep our faith anchored when life feels out of control.If this helped you read Revelation with clearer eyes, subscribe, share this with a friend who's curious about end-times teaching, and leave a review so more listeners can find the show.Support the showBE PROVOKED AND BE PERSUADED!

    Introduction: Daniel's 70 Weeks (Dan. 9:24,25), part 5/5

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 24, 2026 32:26 Transcription Available


    Send us Fan MailDaniel 9 has been turned into a fear factory for a lot of Christians, but we're convinced it was never meant to do that. We sit down for a Scripture-first conversation that keeps pulling the lens back to the same place: Jesus Christ, His blood, and the finished work of the cross. If your prophecy chart requires skipping over the Messiah to get to a future seven-year tribulation, we think it's worth asking a hard question: who does that interpretation actually magnify?We walk through the “seventy weeks” timeline and why the popular “gap theory” feels forced when you read Daniel's words carefully. Along the way, we talk about why Daniel 9:24's six purposes matter for everyday faith: making an end of sin, making reconciliation for iniquity, and bringing in everlasting righteousness. This isn't abstract theology. If Christ has already reconciled us to God, and if His righteousness is credited to believers, then we don't live on spiritual layaway waiting for some future event to make the gospel true.We also address a modern distraction that keeps showing up in Christian spaces: self-appointed prophets, apostles, seers, and “God told me” claims treated like unquestionable authority. We argue God has given His Word, calls us to study it, and invites accountability in fellowship rather than spiritual celebrity.We close with a focused question from Daniel 9 itself: what does it mean to “anoint the most holy”? Our answer is simple and Christ-centered. If you want prophecy that produces peace instead of panic, press play, then subscribe, share this with a friend, and leave a review with your biggest takeaway.Support the showBE PROVOKED AND BE PERSUADED!

    Introduction: Daniel's 70 Weeks (Dan. 9:24,25), part 4/5

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 24, 2026 32:32 Transcription Available


    Send us Fan MailIf Daniel's “70 weeks” has a countdown, why do so many teachings treat it like a pause button? We dig into Daniel 9:24–27 with one driving question: what does it actually mean “to finish the transgression,” and can anything be more wicked than what happened at the cross?We start by slowing down and getting specific. “Sin” is true, but it can be vague, so we trace the argument that the prophecy points to a climactic transgression: the moment humanity, after generations of rebellion, lays hands on the innocent Son of God and crucifies him. That isn't just history for “them” to own; we talk about Christian humility and how our sin is bound up in why Jesus went to the cross at all. If Christ truly said “It is finished,” then Daniel's first goal can't be waiting on a future event.Then we pressure-test the popular dispensational framework, especially the claim of a future seven-year tribulation tied to Daniel 9:27. We walk through the logic problems, including the odd idea of calling it “seven years of tribulation” while also claiming the first three and a half years are “peace.” We compare that with the Prince of Peace preaching the gospel of peace, and we track the “midst of the week” to Jesus' ministry from roughly age 30 to his crucifixion around 33. Finally, we unpack the covenant language as the new covenant in Christ's blood, the end of sacrifice and oblation, and the movement from law to grace, ending with a striking Genesis picture of fig leaves versus God's covering.Subscribe for more Bible study conversations, share this with a friend who loves prophecy, and leave a review. What do you think “finish the transgression” means in Daniel 9?Support the showBE PROVOKED AND BE PERSUADED!

    Introduction: Daniel's 70 Weeks (Dan. 9:24,25), part 3/5

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 24, 2026 32:35 Transcription Available


    Send us Fan MailA rebuilt temple in Jerusalem gets treated like the ultimate end-times sign, but we think that storyline misses what Jesus actually pointed to. We start in John 2 with Jesus' startling words about destroying “this temple” and raising it in three days, then we ask the question many prophecy charts avoid: if Christ is greater than the temple, why are so many Christians waiting for another one?From there, we take on dispensationalism and the fear-driven cycle it can create, where headlines and speculation replace gospel confidence. We talk about why any future temple project would not automatically be “holy,” why idol worship is a real concern, and why the New Covenant repeatedly locates God's dwelling with Christ and his people. That leads into a deeper thread: the Bible's teaching that believers are the temple, and how that reframes talk about “desolation,” antichrist claims, and spiritual deception inside the visible church.We close by going straight to Daniel 9:24, where the “seventy weeks” prophecy gives six specific outcomes: finishing transgression, ending sins, reconciling iniquity, bringing everlasting righteousness, sealing up vision and prophecy, and anointing the most holy. We put those promises on the table and ask whether they're fulfilled at the cross or postponed into a future seven-year tribulation. If you care about biblical prophecy, Christian eschatology, and reading the Old Testament through Jesus, this conversation will sharpen your lens and your courage.Subscribe for more Bible-centered conversations, share this with a friend who loves prophecy charts, and leave a review with the biggest question this raised for you.Support the showBE PROVOKED AND BE PERSUADED!

    Introduction: Daniel's 70 Weeks (Dan. 9:24,25), part 2/5

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 24, 2026 32:28 Transcription Available


    Send us Fan MailA lot of Bible prophecy talk starts with charts and ends with confusion, so we go the opposite direction: we start with the question that controls everything. Do the Old Testament's prophetic promises point beyond Jesus, or do they converge on Him? Once you answer that, Daniel's famous “70 weeks” prophecy stops being a playground for endless speculation and becomes a Christ-centered timeline with real, readable claims. We work through a spirited panel conversation that ranges from the gospel going to the whole world to a blunt dispute over the deity of Christ and why clarity matters when you step into theological debates. From there, we introduce a new series on Daniel 9:24–27, read the text out loud, and explain the simple math behind the seventy “sevens” as 490 years. We also connect Daniel's framework to Jeremiah's 70-year Babylonian captivity prophecy, showing why Daniel likely expects consecutive fulfillment rather than gaps you have to invent. Then we slow down and focus on Daniel 9:24 itself, where the prophecy lists six outcomes like ending sin, reconciliation for iniquity, and sealing up vision and prophecy. We also put a popular end times assumption under the microscope: if people insist Daniel 9 teaches a seven-year tribulation, where is that word or idea actually stated? If you care about Bible prophecy, end times interpretation, Daniel's 70 weeks, and reading Scripture with precision, this conversation is for you. Subscribe, share this with a friend who loves prophecy debates, and leave a review telling us what you think Daniel 9 is really saying.Support the showBE PROVOKED AND BE PERSUADED!

    Introduction: Daniel's 70 Weeks (Dan. 9:24,25), part 1/5

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 24, 2026 32:28 Transcription Available


    Send us Fan MailDaniel 9 has become a crossroads text for modern Christian eschatology. When people talk about the 70 weeks prophecy, it often brings a whole set of assumptions with it: a pre-tribulation rapture, a future seven-year tribulation, detailed end-times calendars, and the idea that certain events must happen before Jesus can return. We slow that down and ask what those interpretations actually imply about the gospel, the church, and the confidence we should have in Christ's finished work.We also put dispensationalism under a simple stress test: did God ever provide more than one way of salvation? If salvation changes from dispensation to dispensation, then the Bible becomes a story of shifting rescue plans. But when we press the panel with direct questions, the conversation keeps landing in the same place: saved by grace through faith, justified by faith, with Hebrews 11 standing as a clear witness that Old Testament believers are not saved by a different method. The nuance is real, but it is not a new gospel. It is the difference between trusting the Messiah promised and trusting the Messiah who has come.From there, we turn to the return of Christ and the word “imminent.” If a system requires a chain of future events like a rapture, tribulation, 144,000, and a literal millennium, can we still say Jesus could return tonight? We also talk about God gathering his elect and the idea of the final sheep being brought into the fold, and how that shapes our patience, urgency, and hope.If you care about Daniel 9, biblical prophecy, dispensationalism, salvation by grace through faith, and the doctrine of Christ's imminent return, listen through and weigh the arguments with us. Subscribe, share this with a friend who loves end-times charts, and leave a review, then tell us: what do you think “imminent” should mean?Support the showBE PROVOKED AND BE PERSUADED!

    WHY WE REJECT FREE WILL (Rom 9:16), part 4/4

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 21, 2026 38:45 Transcription Available


    Send us Fan MailRomans 9 doesn't let any of us stay comfortable, and that's exactly why we went there. We start with a simple but weighty claim from Romans 10: faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the Word of God. If God is the one who gives a new heart, then preaching isn't background noise, it's one of the main ways God brings dead sinners to life and continues to sanctify His people.From Psalm 110 and Ezekiel's promise of a heart of flesh, we talk about what it means to be “made willing in the day of His power.” We push back on the idea that sovereignty equals force. Instead, we argue that God's power creates real willingness, real desire, and real coming to Christ. That leads us into the hard questions: when someone says “free will,” free from what, and free to do what? Are we choosing from a neutral place, or choosing according to our nature?Then we walk straight through Romans 9, connect it to Philippians 2:13, and land in John 6:37 where Jesus holds sovereign grace and human coming together in one promise: all the Father gives will come, and whoever comes will never be cast out. Along the way we talk assurance, why grace produces change, and why trendy theological labels can distract from what the text actually says. If you want a clearer, more biblical view of salvation, regeneration, and God's kingdom rule in the heart, press play, then subscribe, share this with a friend, and leave a review with your biggest takeaway.Support the showBE PROVOKED AND BE PERSUADED!

    WHY WE REJECT FREE WILL (Rom 9:16), part 3/4

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 21, 2026 38:53 Transcription Available


    Send us Fan MailThe fastest way to expose shaky theology is to ask one uncomfortable question: where do your choices actually come from? We start with raw honesty about tears, conviction, and that “refiner's fire” season many believers know, then we anchor it in Acts 17 and the idea that God orders our lives so we will seek Him, even when it feels like groping in the dark.From there, we take on the free will debate with Scripture in hand. Matthew 12:34 forces the issue: if the heart is evil, how can it speak good? We follow that trail into Romans 9, where mercy is not a reward and not a right. Mercy assumes wrath is deserved, and God's sovereignty offends our instincts about fairness. The vineyard workers parable lands like a mirror: God is not unjust because He is generous, and He does not owe anyone the same deal.We also work through common flashpoints like 2 Peter 3:9 and the question of whether God intends to save everyone, plus the often-misused line “the kingdom of God is within you” from Luke 17:21. We close with the heart of the matter: regeneration. Ezekiel 36 isn't about God upgrading your old self; it's about God giving a new heart, new desires, and a new direction that makes real repentance and real faith possible.If this challenged you or comforted you, subscribe, share it with a friend who loves theology, and leave a review. What verse most shapes how you think about human will and God's mercy?Support the showBE PROVOKED AND BE PERSUADED!

    WHY WE REJECT FREE WILL (Rom 9:16), part 2/4

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 21, 2026 38:45 Transcription Available


    Send us Fan MailFree will gets praised as the cornerstone of love and moral responsibility, but we put it under the bright light of Scripture and it starts to collapse. We talk candidly about why “moral neutrality” is a fantasy, why autonomous self-sovereignty doesn't even work as a concept, and why the Bible consistently presents God as the only sovereign. Along the way, we ask a provocative question: if Jesus is the most perfect person to walk the earth and could not sin, what does that say about the popular definition of freedom?We open John 6:44 and John 5:40 side by side and let Jesus speak plainly: no one can come unless the Father draws, and sinners will not come that they might have life. From there we move into Romans 8:7 and Romans 9 to explain moral inability, regeneration, and why salvation by grace leaves no room for boasting. We also address the common claim that “true love requires free will,” arguing that heaven's sinless love proves the opposite.You'll hear vivid analogies like the goldfish bowl, practical interpretive tools like reading unclear texts through didactic passages, and personal testimony about conviction and real change. If you've wrestled with God's sovereignty, human choice, election, or what it means to be “free indeed,” this conversation will give you categories, Scriptures, and honest language for the struggle. Subscribe, share this with a friend who debates free will, and leave a review with your toughest question from the episode.Support the showBE PROVOKED AND BE PERSUADED!

    WHY WE REJECT FREE WILL (Rom 9:16), part 1/4

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 21, 2026 35:06 Transcription Available


    Send us Fan MailRomans 9:16 forces a question most of us avoid until life gets hard: is salvation ultimately driven by what I decide and how hard I try, or by God who shows mercy. We take Paul's argument seriously, especially his insistence that lineage, heritage, and religious identity never make God a debtor. When mercy is the source, boasting dies fast and assurance finally has someplace solid to stand.We also tackle a claim that shows up everywhere in modern Christian talk, that “free will” is a gift from God that brings us to Christ. We ask for the receipts in Scripture, clarify what the Bible actually does and does not say, and explain why “free will” in the Old Testament is connected to the free will offering, not a doctrine of morally neutral human autonomy. Along the way we talk about why misunderstanding words can create entire systems of belief that feel right but do not match the biblical narrative.Then we go deeper than slogans: yes, people make real choices, but what determines what we want. We draw a clear distinction between having a will and being morally free from the dominion of sin, and we connect that to humility, repentance, and a steadier confidence in grace through faith. If this conversation challenges you, share it with someone who loves Romans, theology, or honest Bible study, and subscribe, leave a review, and tell us what point you disagree with most.Support the showBE PROVOKED AND BE PERSUADED!

    It is NOT of Him that WILLS, nor of Him who RUNS, part 3/3

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 20, 2026 36:09 Transcription Available


    Send us Fan MailSalvation talk gets weird fast when we start with ourselves: my choice, my sincerity, my effort, my “decision.” So we slow down and let Romans 9 speak for itself. The claim is uncomfortable and strangely comforting at the same time: the deepest reason anyone is saved isn't human will or human striving, but God who shows mercy. That flips where praise goes and where assurance lives, because confidence no longer rests on how steady our grip is but on how steady God's compassion is.We also tackle the passage many people want to sidestep: Pharaoh. Romans 9 says God raised Pharaoh up so His power would be displayed and His name declared. We talk about what that means and what it does not mean, including the difference between God creating evil and God judging sin by giving someone over to the hardness they already want. That leads straight into the hard pairing in Romans 9:18: mercy and hardening. If you've ever wondered why God's sovereignty can feel offensive to some but like oxygen to others, this part gets to the nerve of it.From there we bring it back to Jesus. Without Christ, mercy stays an abstract word. With Christ, mercy becomes resurrection for the spiritually dead. Lazarus is the picture: Christ speaks, and the dead come forth. We connect that new birth to the hope of a final bodily resurrection, and we end with practical encouragement to use what God puts in our hands to spread truth rather than spiral in fear.If this conversation challenged you or strengthened you, subscribe, share it with a friend, and leave a review so more people can find it. What part of Romans 9 do you wrestle with most right now?Support the showBE PROVOKED AND BE PERSUADED!

    It is NOT of Him that WILLS, nor of Him who RUNS, part 2/3

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 20, 2026 36:11 Transcription Available


    Send us Fan MailIf Romans 9:16 is true, it ends a lot of religious swagger: “So then it is not of him that wills, nor of him that runs, but of God that shows mercy.” We dig into why that single line detonates the idea that the human will is the deciding cause of salvation, and why turning grace into something God must give “equally” turns mercy into a debt. When mercy becomes payment, God gets pushed off the throne and man quietly takes the credit.We connect Paul's argument back to God's words to Moses in Exodus and the image of being hidden in the cleft of the rock as God's glory passes by. That picture isn't just poetic, it's theological: God protects whom He protects, and He shows compassion because of His own nature and purpose. From there, we walk verse by verse through Romans 9:15–16, clarifying the difference between what causes salvation and what follows salvation. Believing, striving, obedience, and perseverance matter, but they are the fruit of God's prior work, not the engine that starts the whole thing.Then we press the practical implications. If salvation depends on your will, your endurance, or your ability to keep the law to “stay saved,” the gospel quietly changes and assurance evaporates. We also address common attempts to dodge the force of the text, including corporate election claims and the idea that “Christ is the only elect,” and we ask the questions those views struggle to answer. If you want a clear, Scripture-forward conversation on God's sovereignty, election, predestination, and salvation by grace, this one will sharpen you.Subscribe for more, share this with a friend who wrestles with the free will debate, and leave a review with your biggest takeaway.Support the showBE PROVOKED AND BE PERSUADED!

    It is NOT of Him that WILLS, nor of Him who RUNS, part 1/3

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 20, 2026 32:02 Transcription Available


    Send us Fan Mail“Is there unrighteousness with God?” That single question in Romans 9:14 is where a lot of theology gets real, fast. We slow down and work through Romans 9:14-18 line by line, because Paul doesn't treat God's sovereignty like a problem to apologize for. He treats it like a truth that exposes our assumptions about fairness, control, and what we think God “should” do.Before we even reach the passage, we clear up a debate that popped up about Rebekah and whether she can be called an Israelite. The point isn't trivia. It's about how easily people miss the larger argument Scripture is making about the line of promise, God's covenant purpose, and why salvation is never secured by human pedigree or human effort. From Jacob and Esau to God's words to Moses, we trace Paul's logic: mercy is God's to give, compassion is God's to show, and God is not measured by a standard outside Himself.We also deal with the real-life friction this doctrine creates. We talk about suffering, death, and the discomfort people feel when God's control extends beyond what we can explain. Then we challenge the modern “free will” slogan with one simple question: what happens when your choice conflicts with God's choice? If you want a clearer, more biblical frame for election, mercy, foreknowledge, and God's righteousness, listen through to the end.If this challenged you or helped you, subscribe, share it with a friend, and leave a review so more people can find the conversation.Support the showBE PROVOKED AND BE PERSUADED!

    Daniel's 70 Weeks: Transgression to Reconciliation, part 3/3

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 20, 2026 30:53 Transcription Available


    Send us Fan MailIf Daniel 9:24 really says what it says, it forces a decision: are we reading fulfilled prophecy or postponing it into the future? We open with the daily reality of indwelling sin, David's honest repentance, and why walking after the Spirit is the only way to fight temptation without denial or despair. That sets the stage for a deeper question about the cross and our confidence before God.Then we tackle a statement that sparks debate fast: Christ's death wasn't “fair.” We carefully separate fair from just, looking at the crucifixion from a human standpoint (innocent, condemned by wicked hands) and from God's standpoint (love on display through the giving of the Son). Along the way, we wrestle with how love, suffering, and nonintervention can collide, and why the cross is not an accident but a deliberate act of redemption.Hebrews 1 becomes our anchor: Jesus purged sins and sat down, a picture of completed work. From there we go straight into Daniel's seventy weeks, focusing on “make an end of sins” and “make reconciliation for iniquity,” and we back it with Scripture from Romans and 2 Corinthians 5. Finally, we explain why this reading challenges a popular dispensationalism framework that inserts a gap before the 70th week, and we close with practical final words on grace, holiness, assurance, and being ready for Christ's return. If this helped you, subscribe, share it with a friend, and leave a review, then tell us: do you see Daniel 9 as fulfilled or still future?Support the showBE PROVOKED AND BE PERSUADED!

    Daniel's 70 Weeks: Transgression to Reconciliation, part 2/3

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 20, 2026 31:21 Transcription Available


    Send us Fan MailIf you've ever shared the gospel and felt like it hit a wall, this conversation will reset how you measure “success.” We dig into the claim God makes about his own Word: it does not return void. The same message can soften a heart into repentance or harden a heart into judgment, and either outcome still accomplishes God's purpose. That's not a tidy idea, but it's a deeply biblical one, and we take it seriously.Then we step right into the argument people whisper and sometimes shout: “That isn't fair.” Using Romans 9 as our anchor, we talk about why the fairness objection keeps coming up, what we usually mean by it, and how quickly we slip into putting ourselves over God as the moral referee. We also ask a tough question: if God operated by our demand for “absolute fairness,” what would pure justice actually do to sinners like us if grace were removed?From there we recover something missing in a lot of Christian talk today: God's holiness. That lens shapes everything, including how we read Daniel 9 and its promise “to make an end of sins.” We connect prophecy to the cross, atonement, and substitutionary sacrifice, and we address the pushback: people still sin, so how can sin be “ended”? We close by focusing on what makes Christ's crucifixion unique and how Christians can confess ongoing sin without turning the gospel into a never-ending repayment plan.If this sharpened your view of God's justice and grace, subscribe for more, share this with a friend who loves Bible study, and leave a review so more people can find the show.Support the showBE PROVOKED AND BE PERSUADED!

    Daniel's 70 Weeks: Transgression to Reconciliation, part 1/3

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 20, 2026 31:28 Transcription Available


    Send us Fan MailDaniel's “70 weeks” prophecy gets quoted constantly, but rarely slowed down enough to ask a simple question: did Daniel 9:24 already happen, or is it still waiting on the future? We start by reading the text, then connect it to Jeremiah's very concrete “seventy years” Babylonian captivity. From there, we track Daniel's “seventy times seven” timeline as a consecutive rollout tied to Jerusalem, restoration, and the arrival of Messiah the Prince.Then we put real weight on the six stated outcomes: finish the transgression, end sins, reconcile iniquity, bring everlasting righteousness, seal up vision and prophecy, and anoint the most holy. Our panel responds plainly on whether these are fulfilled, and we dig into why that answer matters for modern end-times teaching. If those six are already completed in Christ's first coming, the popular claim of a future seven-year tribulation built on “one week left” needs more than assumption. We ask for the verse that actually says it.We spend the back half drilling into “finish the transgression” with a chain of scriptures: Matthew 23's “fill up the measure” language, Zechariah's “look on me whom they pierced,” Paul's warning about “filling up sins,” and “they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.” We also widen the lens to personal application: the cross doesn't only accuse first-century leaders; it exposes all of us, and Hebrews 9 and Isaiah 53 point to Jesus's once-for-all sacrifice that truly puts away sin.If this helped you rethink Daniel 9, share it with a friend who loves prophecy charts, subscribe for more Bible-first conversations, and leave a review so more listeners can find the show.Support the showBE PROVOKED AND BE PERSUADED!

    They are NOT All Israel, which are OF Israel, (Rom. 9:6-13), part 4/4

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 19, 2026 33:15 Transcription Available


    Send us Fan Mail“Corporate election” can sound scholarly while quietly emptying Romans 9 of its punch. We slow down and ask the question that clears the fog fast: what do you mean by corporate, who is in that group, and how do they get there? As we work through Romans 9–11 and connect it to Ephesians 1, we keep bumping into stubbornly personal language like “us,” “whom,” “they,” and “them” and we refuse to treat it like a placeholder for a nameless plan with open enrollment.Along the way, Pat, Mariah, Vanessa, Lisa, Meg, and I challenge common shortcuts we hear in Arminianism and dispensationalism, especially arguments built on “it implies” instead of clear teaching. We talk about Matthew 1:21 and God's single plan of salvation for Jews and Gentiles, the “Israel of God,” and why the replacement theology label often functions like a distraction instead of an explanation. The recurring practice is simple and sharp: ask people to show the text, define their terms, and let Scripture set the categories.We also read Malachi 1 to frame “Jacob I loved, Esau I hated” as covenantal choice and rejection rather than emotional mood swings. If election is real, it's meant to humble us, comfort us, and move the weight off our shoulders and onto the sovereignty of God. If this strengthened your confidence in the Bible's clarity, subscribe, share it with a friend who loves Romans, and leave a review with the question you still want answered.Support the showBE PROVOKED AND BE PERSUADED!

    They are NOT All Israel, which are OF Israel, (Rom. 9:6-13), part 3/4

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 19, 2026 33:27 Transcription Available


    Send us Fan MailRomans 9 does not let us hide behind personality, pedigree, or a polished religious story. We press into Paul's argument that God's purpose according to election stands completely independent of human will and human works, and we use Jacob and Esau as the unavoidable case study: chosen before birth, before any good or evil, so that salvation can only be credited to God's sovereign grace.From there, we slow down on the phrase “not of works but of Him who calls” and talk about calling in a way that gets practical fast. We wrestle with the difference between hearing the gospel outwardly and receiving the kind of effective call that actually brings repentance and faith. If salvation is of the Lord, then God is not reacting to our future decisions, and He is not dependent on creation to accomplish redemption.We also bring the doctrine down to street level with questions that expose our real spiritual condition: Who do people say you are? Who do you say Christ is? We talk about conversion moments, the way faith shows up in public life, and why serving Christ means we do not bow to any rival master, whether that is money, status, or a system that re-centers the flesh.If you care about Reformed theology, predestination, sovereign election, and what Romans 9 actually teaches about salvation, this is a focused and honest listen. Subscribe, share this with a friend who debates free will, and leave a review with your toughest question from the passage.Support the showBE PROVOKED AND BE PERSUADED!

    They are NOT All Israel, which are OF Israel, (Rom. 9:6-13), part 2/4

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 19, 2026 33:31 Transcription Available


    Send us Fan MailIf you've ever wondered whether “God's people” is a family tree or a faith reality, Romans 9 refuses to let you stay vague. We sit with Paul's hard line in Romans 9:8: natural descent does not make someone a child of God, but the children of the promise are counted as the seed. That word counted takes us straight into salvation by faith, imputed righteousness, and why confidence belongs in Christ rather than in heritage, nation, or religious pedigree.We connect Paul's argument back to Genesis through Isaac. God names Isaac before he is born, and his name means laughter. The laughter isn't a punchline. It becomes a living reminder that God fulfills His promises by His power, not through our schemes. Abraham and Sarah's attempt to manufacture the promise through Hagar highlights a timeless temptation: trying to force God's timeline and call it “faith.” Paul uses the promised birth to show that God's covenant purposes run on His word, not on human ability.From there we challenge dispensationalism, especially any framework that implies different ways of salvation in different ages or creates a wedge between Israel and the church that Paul's logic won't allow. We also talk about assurance, and how backwards it gets when people trust ethnic security more than they trust Christ to keep His own. Paul's next example, Rebekah's twins, presses the point further: God's purpose according to election stands before works, before merit, before performance.If this stretches you, good. Listen closely, share it with someone who loves Romans, and then leave a review so more people can find the conversation. What do you think Paul is saying “counts” someone as God's people?Support the showBE PROVOKED AND BE PERSUADED!

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