The Limit Does Not Exist

It's our Season 3 finale! If you've been listening for awhile, you already know that we're fans of seasons. We think they're a great opportunity to take stock, find new inspiration, make some changes, and come up with a catchy name. Press play to hear a few of the changes we're making, how we're staying inspired, and what we've named our summers. And yes, there is a Lightning Round.  Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

As we continue to navigate the changing landscape of this challenging time, we're joined by Richard Nash, a coach who specializes in helping creatives become more entrepreneurial, business folks become more creative, and all types of professionals become more comfortable with transitions. No stranger to career zigs and zags, Richard brings his range of theater, publishing, and entrepreneurial experience to our conversation. We discuss doing versus being, why it's smart to ask stupid questions, and how to rediscover the joy of discovery. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Since a lot of us are going through transitions right now, we've rounded up some of the best TLDNE advice for fresh starts, restarts, changes in direction, or entirely different roadmaps. Tune in to hear Stephanie Pereira, Tyler Thrasher, Dr. Sabriya Stukes, and Jen Gotch share mindsets, strategies, and perspectives that will help you take your next step. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This week, Natalie Settles invites us on her pilgrimage through art and science and shares many insights along the way. Natalie is an award-winning artist and scientist whose work recasts the interdisciplinary relationship between evolutionary biology and Victorian design. Her ability to move between disciplines and make art in limited spaces has given Natalie a unique lens on the creative process, the health crisis, and transitions of all kinds. So pack your headphones, bring along your curiosity, and join us on this inspiring journey. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

How do you explain who you are and what you do in a way that makes sense to others — and more importantly, to you? We're here to help you present your myriad strengths as the highly valuable package that they are, by identifying your personal brand, translatable skills, and even what the heck to put on your website. So whether you're gearing up to change careers, move into a new industry, or you just want to feel comfortable and confident about all of the pieces of your story, you've come to the right office. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Power duo alert! This week, we're talking with Andrea Beaty, author of the children's book series The Questioneers (which includes Rosie Revere, Engineer and Iggy Peck, Architect) and Lauren Gunderson, America's most produced playwright and Andrea's collaborator in taking Rosie and friends from the page to the stage. Andrea tells us how a multidisciplinary kid from the Midwest became a famous author by being “gifted with obliviousness,” and Lauren lets us in on her prolific process and shares why theater and science are such a perfect pair. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Ever wish you had a friend who understood the ins and outs of your multidisciplinary life and also spoke finance fluently? Consider Claire Van Holland your new BFF. Claire tells us how she moved from corporate media to furniture and home goods, and then to the CV Ledger, her accountancy firm for creatives — all while dancing along the way. Listen in for business real talk without jargon or judgement, and guidance on how to build a financial foundation with the same gusto as you approach your chosen work. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

As we navigate this continually changing landscape, we're back with another C&C episode. This week, we're sharing updates from our lives as we do our best to find balance and a little bit of breathing room amidst the chaos — and even create some positive change in the ways we know how. Also: making a care budget, redefining Slacktivism, and staying sane on social media. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Is it really possible to follow all of your curiosities for a living? Say hello to Tyler Thrasher. He's made a career out of exploring caves, hybridizing plants, and growing crystals on insects, and he's here to tell us how. It starts with a major pivot away from computer animation and a return to his love of the natural world, hacking his fascinations and building a business model to support his life as a full-time (and self-taught!) artist and scientist. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

We might be isolated, but we're here. In this special C&C episode, we're sharing some resources, ideas, feelings, and encouragement that we hope will help during this challenging and uncertain time of COVID-19. While we don't know what tomorrow or even the next hour looks like, we do know we can get through it together. If anyone can, it's this community of Human Venn Diagrams. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Can dreams really change? Does a creative life have to be all or nothing? Should you give up or keep going? If you've ever asked yourself questions like these, this episode is a must-listen. Our guest is Rachel Friedman, author of And Then We Grew Up: On Creativity, Potential, and the Imperfect Art of Adulthood. We discuss how to customize your creativity in a way that's truly aligned with who you are, as Rachel shares the through-lines, surprises, and patterns of success and fulfillment. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

In honor of our podcast's official holiday, we're celebrating all things Pi and pie! Our special guest is Lauren Ko: an artist, self-taught baker, and the founder of the wildly popular Instagram account @lokokitchen. We get the dish from Lauren about how she creates her incredibly vibrant and intricate geometric pies, how she navigated a 180º career shift to go all-in on baking, and why it's perfectly ironic that she now reimagines a classic American dessert for a living. Prepare your palate for baking tips, inspiring creative advice, and a math treat at the end! Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

How do you make a real career out of your multiple interests? Including things like paid time-off, health insurance, and retirement savings? Today, we're sharing tons of resources and strategies to help you claim your worth, negotiate your rates, manage your taxes, and take ownership of your finances. Because you deserve it. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

In our ongoing takedown of the idea that the arts and sciences are polar opposites, we bring you Dr. Aomawa Shields and Amy Secunda: two actresses turned astronomers! They tell us exactly how they made the transition from studying scripts to stars and trusted what the universe was telling them. Plus, the ultimate selflessness of self-care, how to know when to focus or diversify, and why your 12-year-old self might not actually have known what's best for you.  Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

How do you make a real impact in the world? This week's guest Gabriele Almon is a former humanitarian staffer turned undercover Hollywood operative who's bringing the creative industry and the public sector together to do just that. She tells us how she's leveraging storytelling to create transformational change, and she's joined by her husband and former TLDNE guest Billy Almon, a designer and storyteller with a passion for nature, technology, and innovation. This power couple shares what makes their partnership thrive, including why it's important to know if you need a high five or a game plan.  Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

We think Valentine's Day is a day to celebrate and reflect on partnerships of all kinds, not just romantic ones. In this special C&C episode, we're taking you behind the scenes of our creative partnership and talking about why we work so well together. We've got lots of personal insights on how to build a partnership from the ground up, as well as tips from professionals. Whether you're looking for a new partner in creativity or want to love the one you're with, tune in! Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

What do you do when you find yourself in a major life transition with no apartment, no relationship, no job, and no idea what you want to do next? This week's guest Dr. Sabriya Stukes took a “radical sabbatical” to discover what she cared most about and how she wanted to make an impact in the world. Whether you've got a lot of change happening all at once or the desire to switch things up a bit, listen in. This episode is full of real talk about what to do you're not okay, when and how to ask for help, and why the biggest challenges can be the greatest guides. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

If you're struggling to find your place online, both creatively and as a human in general, listen up! Our guest is Maya Man, an artist and technologist based in New York City who's building experiments at the Google Creative Lab, dancing in studios and public spaces, and maintaining her love/hate relationship with the internet, which she describes as mostly love. We discuss how to disrupt your daily screen trance, turn a world of devices into your own digital playground, and stay inspired and real both on and offline. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Welcome to Office Hours, a new kind of episode in which we tackle your big questions and common Human Venn Diagram challenges! This week, we're talking about what to do when you feel overwhelmed — by decisions, work, feelings, social media, the news, or everything all at once. We discuss how to let overwhelm be a map instead of a roadblock, and share lots of strategies to help you choose your next project, begin it with confidence, and get it all done.   Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Have you ever felt like having a day job to pay the bills makes you somehow less of a creative? What if that day job turns you into a pioneer of a brand-new field? Mikhael Tara Garver is a living example of this — she's a director, experiential architect, founder of experiential entertainment studio 13Exp, and recently joined Category41 as Head of Experiential Entertainment. Mikhael shares how her theater background and love of spreadsheets led her to create experiences, and why her work is tailor-made for Human Venn Diagrams. Plus, we're sharing our best project management strategies and learning methods to help you stay at the forefront of whatever field you're in.  Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Wondering if you're on the right path — or if your path even exists yet? We've got you. Our guest is Keith Kirkland, a mechanical engineer, accessories designer, and industrial designer who's the cofounder of Wear Works, a wearable technology startup. Keith fills us in on what he's building at Wear Works, how it's the perfect destination of his zigzag path, and why following what feels authentic to us is the most generous thing we can do. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Who's in your community? If the idea of finding your people feels abstract, scary, or totally impossible, press play! Our guest is Stephanie Pereira, a community engagement expert and the Director of NEW INC, an incubator for creators working at the intersection of art, design and technology. Tune in for game-changing tips on how to build a real following and successfully launch your next great creative idea into the world. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Welcome to #TLDNE2020! We're back with concrete tools, real talk, and a whole lot of inspiration for you as you kick off your own fresh start and/or thrilling return. In this Cate & Christina episode, we'll discuss how to recession-proof your creative practice and why early-career setbacks can set you up for success. Plus, we'll help you connect your own personal dots with something we call Life Graph. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

When it comes to pursuing your passions, you shouldn't have to choose. The Limit Does Not Exist is a podcast for people who want to embrace the “and” instead of “or” in their careers — offering concrete tools, real talk, and conversations with inspiring guests who have crafted their own interdisciplinary careers across STEM and the arts. The Limit Does Not Exist is a podcast from iHeartRadio and co-hosts serial entrepreneur/storyteller Christina Wallace and actress/writer/director Cate Scott Campbell. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

In this very special Cate & Christina episode you'll hear why we're both naming our summers the Summer of Joy (Reprise)! We also discuss the magic of discovering and leaning into your superpower, the phase of exploration that's essential for any creative endeavor (and creative life in general), and we share some big news. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

It's our 100th episode, live from the Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, California! We're thrilled to be talking with five visual strategists from The Studio at JPL: David Delgado, David Levine, Liz de la Torre, Lois Kim, and Dan Goods, who founded the group. You'll hear how they partner with scientists and engineers to help them “think through their thinking,” as well as communicate both within NASA and with the public about the groundbreaking work at JPL. They'll also tell us how they got the coolest jobs ever, and fill us in on some of their awesome projects, like wearable tech for astronauts, visualizing live communications from NASA's Deep Space Network, and a whole lot more. It's a total blast! Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

If your dream job doesn't exist yet, how do you hustle your way forward? That's a perfect question for Amy Emmerich, the Chief Content Officer at Refinery29 and your newest career cheerleader. Amy started out behind the camera and is now driving content strategy across all platforms, constantly adapting to an ever-changing storytelling landscape. Amy discusses the key ingredients that have helped her succeed in a highly original career path—and she shares tons of inspiring takeaways for you as you journey along your own. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

When you think of a magician, do you think of a guy in a top hat? Or things like 3D printing and the Pythagorean Theorem? Meet Kayla Drescher, a professional magician who's also part scientist, part comedian, and part bartender. Kayla tells us what being a full-time magician actually looks like: from the entrepreneurial side, to developing her own unique voice, to studying science in order to defy it. You'll also hear how she's taking a lead in developing resources for women and girls who want to pursue magic without sporting that top hat you may have been thinking of. Prepare yourself now for lots of wow moments! Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

It's an extra special highlights episode! We've gathered together some of our favorite advice for new graduates, parents of graduates, and anyone taking a big leap or starting something new. You'll hear from visual artist Lia Halloran, MET Orchestra timpanist Jason Haaheim, Fractured Atlas founder Adam Huttler, and LEGO artist Adam Ward. Listen in as you prepare for your next big adventure! Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

It's Teacher Appreciation Week! To show our appreciation for teachers and their integral roles in our development as lifelong learners, we're sitting down with three listeners who are stellar math teachers and Human Venn Diagrams in their own right. You'll hear Tori Raddatz, Emily Dennett and Emily Hart talk authenticity, inspiration, self care and everything in between—and we guarantee you'll feel all the feelings for the teachers in your life. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Do you remember what you were doing last Tuesday? Cesar Kuriyama does. He's a director, animator, 3D VFX artist and the creator of the 1 Second Everyday app, which records—you guessed it—one second of every single day. You'll hear about Cesar's life-changing journey that began with a decision to quit his job in advertising and take a full year off. Plus, the power of memory triggers, why “creative human person” is Cesar's title of choice, and how it all traces back to Doogie Howser. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

If you want to know how 1218 drones made a flying snowboarder in the sky at this year's Winter Olympics, listen up! We're geeking out with Intel's General Manager of Drone Light Shows, Natalie Cheung, about pulling off epic spectacles at the Olympics, Lady Gaga's Super Bowl performance, Coachella and lots more. Natalie shares how she ended up with a job that didn't exist until recently and gives advice on jumping into a line of work that may require skills beyond your current resume. Plus, so much cool stuff about the art and science of drones! Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Ready, set, finish! We're talking about finish lines and how to get to them without burnout, worrying what will come next or not finishing at all. We also discuss how to make decisions and not second-guess them, why creative effort is never wasted, and the power of getting to an answer even if the answer is no. Plus, why we encourage you to cut yourself some slack. Hint: You're doing a great job! Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Can you picture Henry David Thoreau's Walden as a video game? After meeting Tracy Fullerton, a professor of interactive media and games at the USC School of Cinematic Arts and the director of USC Games Program, we promise you can. Tracy tells us how experimental game design intersects with art, science, politics, learning and more—and totally redefines our idea of gaming. Get ready to rethink the role that games can play in society and in your life. Game on! Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Raise your hand if you've seen OK Go's treadmill video! How about that insane Rube Goldberg machine? Or the zero gravity one? Lead singer and guitarist Damian Kulash joins us to talk about the inspiration and execution behind those jaw-dropping videos. He also discusses the importance of balancing creative risks with pragmatism, shares why he considers himself a committed generalist, and tells us about the band's new educational initiative, OK Go Sandbox. Get ready for your mind to bend upside down and inside out! Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

How do you turn a bunch of bananas into a piano? Or play Nintendo with a controller made out of Play-Doh? Jay Silver, creator of Makey Makey and founder and CEO of JoyLabz, is here to help make the world your own personal construction kit. Jay has a PhD from MIT Media Lab's Lifelong Kindergarten, he was the first-ever Maker Research Scientist at Intel and he's helped companies of all sizes smash electronics and everyday objects together. We discuss invention literacy, how to create more wildness in your work and the importance of unlearning. Plus, a Lightning Round mic drop! Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

We're coming to you live from the The Conference For Research On Choreographic Interfaces at Brown University (think: artistic entrepreneurship, robotics and dance)! You'll hear two conversations with badass interdisciplinary collaborators on tapping into your creative identity, finding the right space to do your thing, maximizing collaborative potential and much more. Plus, a special Q&A segment and an epic Lightning Round! Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

It's been 2 years of The Limit Does Not Exist—and it's Pi Week! To celebrate, we're recapping some of our favorite insights, aha! moments and recommendations from the last 87 episodes. Plus, show fave Emilie Wapnick's back on for special segment with books, tools and game-changing hacks for Human Venn Diagrams. Tune in and join this highly educational party! Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

What can nature teach us about innovation? According to Billy Almon, a dimensional designer and biomimicry aficionado, a whole lot. Tune in for parallels between ants and corporate organizational design, a discussion of biomimicry in Black Panther and more jaw-dropping insights. Plus, Billy shares his path from setting booby traps as a kid to designing immersive experiences, and shares advice on thriving and communicating well within multidisciplinary teams. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

It's an extra special highlights episode! We're celebrating theater kids of all ages and rediscovering how skills developed on or around the stage can translate to fascinating career moves. You'll hear from Dan Maccarone of Charming Robot, playwright Lauren Gunderson, educator and designer Bryan Cooperrider, and Janett Martinez of Loomia. Lights up on the adaptable power of a liberal arts education! Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Rebecca Poulson has what she calls a strange job. We'd call it a really cool one. Rebecca is the Technical Program Manager for Emerging Platforms at Northwestern University Knight Lab, where she gets to work on experiments designed to push journalism into new spaces. Rebecca takes us along her journey of writing plays to writing code and shares a surprising benefit of VR. Plus, career advice and the Olympics! Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

You could say that Kamal Sinclair is an art doula. She's the Director of the Sundance Institute's New Frontier Labs Program, a consultant to the Ford Foundation's JustFilms program, and was an artist and producer on the Question Bridge: Black Males transmedia art project. Kamal takes us on her journey from dancing Off-Broadway to fostering interdisciplinary work on a daily basis. She also shares why breaking rules and fumbling forward are both excellent strategies and weighs in on what's going on with VR. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Get ready for positive accountability, finding your tribe and… space trash? Yup! It's an all-new C&C episode with a special visit from Emilie Wapnick, founder of Puttylike and The Puttytribe! Emilie joins us to discuss what's going on with those 2018 goals and how to build in sustainable support systems. We also discuss corporate job hacks for freelancers, surviving adrenaline drops, productivity apps and a whole lot more. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Has anyone ever called you an amateur? Fractured Atlas Founder Adam Huttler has some thoughts on why that's a good thing. Adam tells us how he took a small theater production company and grew it into one of the premier arts services and nonprofit technology companies in the country. As he steps into his new role as Founder and Chief of Exponential Creativity Ventures, he shares his views on professional development, the benefits of creativity, defining your impact and more. Plus, why coding is an ideal day job for artists! Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Have you ever considered using Trello to compose your next symphony? Meet Kevin Clark, a philanthropy consultant, product manager, and composer working to help artists thrive. As a composer, Kevin experiments with business models and collaboration techniques (and yes, Trello!) as much as with pitches and rhythms. Kevin shares how being marginally competent and in the right place at the right time can have big payoff and how to know when you should ask users or collaborators or your boss for feedback on your projects. Plus, Kickstarter campaign tips and nonprofit arts business models! Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

It's our 80th episode, so you know it's a great one! We're talking with Kat Mustatea, who's a poet, playwright and technologist. Kat writes about the intersection of technology and the arts for Forbes, and she's currently interested in art in the age of machine intelligence. Kat takes us on her path from mathematics to sculpture to theater and beyond, and Christina shares an idea that Cate calls a “creative grenade.” Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Ready to jump down a rabbit hole of curiosity and creation? Join us as we talk with Casey REAS, an artist and educator whose interdisciplinary work has been shown around the world and most recently, in music videos for The National. Casey teaches in the Department of Design Media Arts at UCLA and is the cofounder of Processing, a programming language for artists. We discuss the power of emphasis over aptitude, finding the right balance between solo work and collaboration, getting your work seen and lots more. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

It's a brand new year, guys! We're addressing the trash fire that was 2017 and laying the groundwork for a bright new 2018. We dig into the science of stress, the need for real leisure time and why productivity hacks can just chill out already. Plus, an insightful food-poisoning metaphor and the best Twitter shade-throwing of last year! Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

It's our first-ever very special highlights episode! We're bringing you some of our favorite illuminating moments from four guests who all have at least one circle of their Human Venn Diagrams in the world of STEM communication. You'll hear Bobak Ferdowsi of NASA's JPL, Danielle Feinberg of Pixar, Emily Graslie of Chicago's Field Museum and The Brain Scoop and our favorite high school teacher Monsieur Le Nadj of Interlochen Arts Academy. It's our gift to you! Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

It's a special in-studio episode! Lia Halloran is the type of artist who knows no bounds, exploring everything from the depths of our solar system to her local skate park. Lia shares her keys to successful collaborations and why she seeks out learning new skills. Plus, advice on funding your ideas and why personal embarrassment can be a really good thing. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Do you ever imagine you're moving to a soundtrack inspired by your environment? Meet Ryan and Hays Holladay - two brothers who have created location-aware compositions in places like The National Mall and Central Park. Ryan and Hays tell us when they realized they didn't have to wait to be successful to make the work they wanted to make and share insights into their collaboration process, partnering with brands, and wading through the LA River. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.