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This conversation hit different. JR Butler went from Division I hockey at Holy Cross to building a company that got acquired by IBM for $2 billion. But the path wasn't straight. And it definitely wasn't easy. JR's story starts in a bar after a men's league hockey game. He was planning to go to law school. Study for the LSAT. Take the traditional route. Then he met a guy who owned a VAR who told him technology was the future. Guaranteed him he could make a quarter million in three years. JR said screw it. Decided to try tech sales instead of studying for the LSAT. By his third day he knew this was what he wanted to do for the rest of his life. But here's where it gets real. JR grew up as the oldest of three boys. All three played Division I hockey. One of his brothers was an Olympic athlete who played in the NHL. When JR asked his dad when he knew his brother Bobby would make the NHL his dad said he knew when Bobby was seven. That creates a dynamic. The naturally gifted kid gets the attention. The oldest learns to fend for himself. JR had to find his own lane. He wasn't the most talented hockey player. But he was accountable. Self-reliant. He learned to bet on himself. That translated perfectly to sales where you eat what you kill and it's 100% on you. Extreme ownership became his foundation. This episode is about finding your lane when you're not the most naturally gifted. About learning from failure. About transferring skills from one arena to another. And about building something meaningful from your own struggle.We Meet:Connect:Connect with Rick: https://linktr.ee/mrrickjordanConnect with JR: https://www.shiftgroup.io/ Subscribe & Review to ALL IN with Rick Jordan on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/RickJordanALLINAbout JR: JR Butler is the Founder and CEO of Shift Group, a sales recruiting and training firm that specializes in helping college, professional, and Olympic athletes transition into the world of Technology Sales. Prior to starting Shift Group, JR was Chief Revenue Officer at Pillir, a fast growth low code software company out of Arizona. Prior to becoming a CRO, JR built and ran multiple sales teams at Turbonomic, helping the company go from a Series A start up to a $2B acquisition by IBM. JR grew up playing multiple sports but went on to play Division 1 hockey at Holy Cross in central Massachusetts where he grew up. He was a sophomore on the 2006 team that beat Minnesota in the biggest upset in College hockey history. JR comes from a hockey family, with two brothers that played at the college level, with one going on to play in the NHL and the Olympics and a father whose in the Massachusetts Hockey coaches hall of fame.
Undergraduate work makes you a better applicant, but your GPA and LSAT are what get you in the door. Read more on our website. Email daily@lsatdemon.com with questions or comments. Watch this episode on YouTube!
Dual degree programs seem especially enticing to many law school candidates. Because - surely - if one postgraduate degree would lead to fame and riches then - obviously - two postgraduate degrees would lead to even more. But the reality is bit more complex! When does it make sense to pursue a dual JD/MBA program and when would it be best to just do one or the other?How does the admissions and financial aid processes work?Is it harder to be admitted to a dual degree program or does it make you a more competitive applicant?Diving into all of that with us is Gina Cecchetti, a 7Sage admissions consultant and a real life MBA admissions officer. And don't forget that for help with all things related to LSAT prep and law school admissions, you can check us out at 7Sage.com.
Josh and Nate explain how to destroy LSAT arguments. Read more on our website. Email daily@lsatdemon.com with questions or comments. Watch this episode on YouTube!
A 3.73 GPA isn't the same as a 3.2—schools care about more than medians, and every point counts in the index. The solution for below-median GPAs? Crush the LSAT.Read more on our website. Email daily@lsatdemon.com with questions or comments. Watch this episode on YouTube!
Debbie is devastated after scoring 163 again on her second official LSAT, despite PTing in the 170s. Josh and Nate urge her to stop chasing a perfect score, register for every upcoming test, and focus on just getting "base hits".Read more on our website. Email daily@lsatdemon.com with questions or comments. Watch this episode on YouTube!
This week, Josh and Nate tackle the misconception that the Demon isn't built for beginners—a belief that emerges from the absence of an introduction to LSAT “theory”. They explain that a bloated curriculum, disconnected from questions, often confuses students and can even reduce scores. The Demon advocates jumping right into questions and letting the test, paired with our explanations, be your teacher. Study with our Free PlanDownload our iOS appWatch Episode 513 on YouTube0:33 – AnnouncementsRegistration deadlines are coming up. You know you're ready to sign up when your practice tests match your goal score. Registration DeadlinesRegister for Ben's Free Class6:07 – Logical Reasoning MindsetNate and Josh explore the mindset required for success in Logical Reasoning, emphasizing that each question has one objectively correct answer. Rather than starting with abstract theory, they advocate an intuitive, hands-on approach: dive into real questions, make mistakes, and learn from them. The Demon is built for beginners. By focusing on solving problems and reviewing mistakes, students can build a strong foundation for sustained success. 18:50 – Candidate Referral ServiceJosh and Nate revisit the candidate referral service and consider whether it's worth signing up. Several Demon team members share how they used the service and received CAS fee waivers to apply early and widely. Still, be cautious—don't let school marketing sway you. Stay skeptical of marketing gimmicks from these schools and be a savvy applicant. LSAT Demon Scholarship Converter26:54 – Tale of Two CareersJacob is thinking about a pivot to law from a very successful accounting career. Josh and Nate recognize there is a meaningful career opportunity, but caution him not to go to law school just because he has great reasoning skills. Instead, meet tax attorneys and decide if that is a job that you want. 36:41 – Studying with a BuddyDemon Student Alex asks how to study with a buddy. Josh and Nate encourage him to practice teaching questions to each other. Josh encourages Alex to utilize the LSAT Demon Discord to find a study buddy. LSAT Demon Discord44:46 – Studying for One Hour Alexis doesn't feel like she is making progress with only one hour per day during her lunch break. The guys encourage her to continue her slow and steady approach to studying, but encourage her to improve the quality of her hour. Your LSAT hour needs to be your best hour of the day: interruption-free, focused, and energized.57:23 – Full Practice Test FailsPaige's scores plummet when she takes full practice tests instead of timed sections. Josh suggests that the score is distracting her from giving the test 100% of her mental effort. The guys then suggest that Paige must not be applying her normal process to practice tests. Nate concludes: You should have a growth mindset when it comes to practice tests. Ask yourself how you can learn from this test, not what score you will get. 1:04:43 – Comparative RCGavin struggles with comparative passages. Josh and Nate encourage him to start explicitly focusing on comparing and contrasting as he's reading. 1:12:11 - Word of the Week - SpeciousThe difference between “literary” and “genre” fiction is a specious distinction. Get caught up with our Word of the Week library.
Zoe shares her LSAT journey from a 157 diagnostic to a 170 official score, then a 169 while teaching at the Demon. She reflects on slowing down, mastering review, and resisting outside pressures to follow a rigid K-JD path.Read more on our website. Email daily@lsatdemon.com with questions or comments. Watch this episode on YouTube!
Carl worries that coming from a family of lawyers might make him seem entitled, but Nathan and Josh reassure him it's actually a major asset. As long as he brings strong grades, a solid LSAT, and a professional application, his background boosts his employability and appeal.Read more on our website. Email daily@lsatdemon.com with questions or comments. Watch this episode on YouTube!
You don't need to memorize question types to succeed on the LSAT. Focus on careful reading and understanding what each question is actually asking before worrying about labels.Read more on our website. Email daily@lsatdemon.com with questions or comments. Watch this episode on YouTube!
Sarah worries she's hit an LSAT ceiling and lacks the intuition to break into the 170s. Josh and Nathan urge her to master the easy questions and explain that speed comes from careful, accurate reading.Read more on our website. Email daily@lsatdemon.com with questions or comments. Watch this episode on YouTube!
Elisa improved her LSAT score from 145 to 176 by slowing down, focusing on understanding, and letting go of bad advice. She took an extra year to apply, studied one hour a day, and proved that patience pays off.Read more on our website. Email daily@lsatdemon.com with questions or comments. Watch this episode on YouTube!
After an influx of GPA addenda questions, Nathan and Josh address several examples in a rapid-fire segment. Their main point: you probably shouldn't write one at all. Addenda highlight weaknesses and provide information that admissions committees may hold against you. Skip the sob stories and focus on showing why you'll succeed in law school.Study with our Free PlanDownload our iOS appWatch Episode 5150:42 – Big Beautiful BillNathan and Josh discuss provisions of the Big Beautiful Bill that cap law school loans at $50,000 per year. They argue it's not the crisis some students fear, noting that borrowing six figures for law school is unwise and the cap protects less informed applicants. They see the bill as targeting predatory schools, not students. Check out our Scholarship Estimator.2025 AccessLex Data Report23:52 – Rapid Fire AddendaThe guys advise students to avoid addenda. Addenda draw attention to the weakest parts of your application and must be concise and strategic if used. An effective addendum highlights positive traits and avoids overexplaining. The goal is to shift focus away from negatives and give admissions officers something strong to latch onto.38:46 – Role QuestionsNathan and Josh explain how to approach role questions, which ask about the function of specific sentences in an argument. They remind listeners that sentences are usually in one of two key categories: premises and conclusions. While answers are phrased abstractly, you succeed by reading answer choices with the same care and engagement used on the passage itself. 50:18 – Accuracy Up but Speed StalledNathan urges students not to chase speed at the expense of comprehension. Every missed question indicates another question you got correct, but didn't understand. Rereading whole passages is a red flag for poor initial reading. Meaningful engagement with the passage allows students to trust their comprehension in the face of flawed arguments.1:04:05 – Broken QuestionsJosh and Nathan refute the idea of “broken” LSAT questions. While some answer choices may be stronger than others, all correct answers are defensible. Blaming the test forfeits a chance to improve. When struggling, walk away and revisit the question with fresh eyes—some days you'll simply perform better than others.1:11:14 – Personal Statement Gong ShowHannah sends in her submission for the Personal Statement Gong Show. Josh and Nathan read the personal statements and hit the gong when something goes wrong. The standing record to beat is 21 lines, held by Danielle.1:27:07 - Word of the Week - Effect Pollination of fruit tree flowers, a necessary step in fruit production, is effected only by certain insects. Get caught up with our Word of the Week library.
With the first big law fair of the season about to happen—the Washington, D.C. LSAC Forum—we know there are jitters out there. What questions should you ask?What question should you totally NOT ask? It it ok to wear comfortable shoes?We cover all this and more with Maggie Slater, the Assistant Dean for Enrollment Management at the West Virginia College of Law.You can find out more about LSAC's law forums here.And don't forget that for help with all things related to LSAT prep and law school admissions, you can check us out at 7Sage.com.
Josh and Nate reassure Erik, who wants to take a gap year, that his scores are good for up to at least three years, and most schools accept scores up to five years old. Read more on our website. Email daily@lsatdemon.com with questions or comments. Watch this episode on YouTube!
Ben and Nathan tackle Parallel Reasoning questions, a question type that some students prefer to skip. They assure listeners that these questions work just like any other LSAT question. Gimmicks—like reading the question first or diagramming—don't help and only distract from the core task. Focus instead on reading for comprehension and understanding the argument. The key is to identify the reasoning and treat everything else as secondary.Study with our Free PlanDownload our iOS appWatch Episode 514 on YouTube0:30 – How Cheating Spreads in Law SchoolBen and Nathan discuss a Wall Street Journal article on extended-time accommodations at Pepperdine Law, where 30% of students reportedly receive them. They argue that accommodations should level the playing field, not give an advantage. They question the value of timed essay exams and compare law school to gaining entry into an ABA-approved guild, suggesting that gaming the system might seem rational, ethics aside.LSAT Demon Scholarship Estimator27:25 – WashU Law Pre-Application TrapA listener is contacted for an interview by WashU Law before even applying. Ben and Nathan caution that this is a sales tactic: the school is trying to extract information and create perceived interest to reduce scholarship offers. They revisit their advice about the Candidate Referral Service, suggesting it might be time to reconsider what students share with schools early in the process.36:12 – Parallel Reasoning ClarityThe guys break down Parallel Reasoning questions on the LSAT. They emphasize that matching language or subject matter is secondary—what matters is aligning the logical structure of arguments. To succeed, students must first understand the core argument before worrying about technical parallels. A big-picture approach is key.53:20 – Tips from a Departing DemonA departing Demon, Vox, shares his advice for other students: keep your study streak alive. Even a single question can turn into an hour of productive study. Consistency compounds.54:56 – Zyns on the LSATRedditors wonder if nicotine pouches like Zyn are allowed during the LSAT. Ben and Nathan suggest that they aren't explicitly banned, but advise playing it safe and contacting LSAC directly. Better to assume they're off-limits.1:03:22 – Why Are Others Wrong?Listener Andrew is thinking about writing an LSAT addendum. Ben and Nathan advise him to focus on improving his score with his two remaining attempts. They argue that law school deans who encourage addenda are trying to get applicants to expose weaknesses. Schools are more interested in reporting the highest LSAT scores, driving denial numbers up, and collecting full tuition. Admissions advice is often self-serving.1:18:21 – Personal Statement Gong ShowDanielle sends in their submission for the Personal Statement Gong Show, the show where Ben and Nathan read personal statements and hit the gong when something goes wrong. The standing record to beat is ten lines, held by Greta.1:32:38 - What's the Deal With… Jacksonville University? Ben and Nate take a look at Jacksonville University, the newest school to receive ABA accreditation. While there are reasons why this may be a good fit, you shouldn't pay to be the school's guinea pigs. Catch up on all of our What's the Deal With… segments!1:42:50 - Word of the Week - Legerdemain “Commenting on the county counsel exception, the court termed it a 'legerdemain giving birth to a solution of dubious validity.'”Howitt v. Superior Court, 5 Cal. Rptr. 2d 196, 202 (App. 1992).Get caught up with our Word of the Week library.