Podcasts about Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary

Most Christians know what it is. Most Christians don't practice it. What is a biblical fast, and what's the point of it? On this episode of the FTC Podcast, Jared Wilson and Ronni Kurtz discuss the spiritual discipline of fasting.

*This episode was originally published on 4/22/2019. This week on Preaching and Preachers, Dr. Jeff Dodge joins me for a discussion on the pastor and college ministry. Jeff is a The post The Pastor and College Ministry appeared first on Preaching and Preachers Institute.

It's a helpful principle for sorting out unity and debate. But how exactly does theological triage work? In this episode of the FTC Podcast, Jared Wilson and Ronni Kurtz discuss the relative importance of first order, second order, and third order doctrines, and how the application of theological triage can help us with Christian charity and kindness.

In this episode, I’m joined by Pastor H. B. Charles Jr. to discuss “Conference Preaching.” H. B. is the Pastor-Teacher at the Shiloh Metropolitan Baptist Church of Jacksonville and Orange Park, Florida, The post Conference Preaching appeared first on Preaching and Preachers Institute.

Mailbag time! Jared Wilson and Ronni Kurtz answer listener-submitted questions and discuss listener-submitted topics. In this installment, the guys cover advice for first-time pastors, when associate pastors disagree with senior pastors' vision, dealing with criticism, how Baptist churches hold pastors accountable, how a new Christian can bear witness to the gospel among unbelieving friends and family, and what color is the FTC Mailbag anyway? As always, if you have questions or topics you'd like the guys to cover on a future Mailbag episode, you can email us at any time via mailbag@ftc.co

In this episode, Dr. Jared Bumpers gives a recent talk from a Midwestern Institute for Preaching and Preachers Workshop. Jared Bumpers is the Associate Professor of Preaching and Evangelism and The post Pastoral Ministry and Preaching appeared first on Preaching and Preachers Institute.

In this special Valentine's week episode of the FTC Podcast, Jared Wilson and Ronni Kurtz talk about love. We all want it. We all sometimes struggle to give it. But what is it? And how can we know we have it at all times?

From the 2026 EFCA Theology Conference, Dr. Geoff Chang—professor of historical theology at Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary—unpacks the doctrine of heaven and eternal blessedness by looking to the historical consensus of the Church.

From the 2026 EFCA Theology Conference Breakouts, Dr. Geoff Chang—professor of historical theology at Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary—leads a session on "Judgment and Rewards for Believers, Judgment and Degrees of Punishment for Unbelievers."

*This episode was originally published on 4/15/2019. This week on Preaching and Preachers, Dr. Philip Ryken joins me in a discussion on preaching Ecclesiastes. Dr. Ryken serves as President of Wheaton The post Preaching Ecclesiastes appeared first on Preaching and Preachers Institute.

It's a sad consequence of the fall and the brokenness of the world: suffering. In this episode of the FTC Podcast, Jared Wilson and Ronni Kurtz reflect on the problem -- and the promise -- of suffering in the Christian life.

In this episode of Preaching and Preachers, Dr. Jason K. Allen is joined by Dan Darling to discuss preaching in a polarized age, pastoral faithfulness in the public square, and the themes behind The post Christian Patriotism appeared first on Preaching and Preachers Institute.

It's the return of the Grab Bag! Jared Wilson and Ronni Kurtz come with surprise questions for each other. You never know what you'll hear when the guys are put on the spot.

Welcome back to Preaching and Preachers, the podcast where we come alongside pastors and proclaimers to think deeply about our calling, sharpen our craft, and renew our hearts for faithful ministry. The post Ministry in the 21st Century appeared first on Preaching and Preachers Institute.

Another cold take on a literally hot topic. Kirk Cameron recently announced he was moving away from the doctrine of eternal conscious torment and toward conditionalism or annihilationism. On this episode of the FTC Podcast, Jared Wilson and Ronni Kurtz discuss what's at stake in this doctrinal shift, the relevant passages that should inform our views, and why ETC is an important doctrine for gospel fidelity.

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In this week’s episode, Dr. Robert Smith Jr. and I discuss “Preaching through Personal Pain.” Robert Smith Jr. serves as Distinguished Professor of Divinity at Beeson Divinity School. Before Smith The post Preaching through Personal Pain appeared first on Preaching and Preachers Institute.

On this episode of the FTC Podcast, Jared Wilson and Ronni Kurtz discuss the challenge AI poses to the church. What are some beneficial uses of artificial intelligence? What are some uses Christians should avoid? And what is the spiritual impact of this encroaching technology on Christian culture?

This week, Dr. Juan Sánchez joins me on Preaching and Preachers as we discuss his most recent book, which he co-authored with his wife, Jeanine, titled Reaching Your Child’s Heart: A Practical Guide The post Faithful Parenting appeared first on Preaching and Preachers Institute.

It's a Mailbag episode! In this installment, Jared Wilson and Ronni Kurtz answer listener-submitted questions and topics, including: renewed interest by young men in the church, managing busy schedules, pastoral teams without a lead pastor, cultivating humility, holiday preaching, and favorite fiction reads of 2025. As always, if you have a question or topic to suggest for the Mailbag please email us at mailbag@ftc.co

*This episode was originally published on 10/13/2025. In this week's episode, Dean Inserra joins me in the podcast studio to discuss “Equipping College Students.” Dean Inserra is the founding and The post Equipping College Students appeared first on Preaching and Preachers Institute.

On this special New Year's episode, Jared Wilson and Ronni Kurtz discuss the teenage Jonathan Edwards's challenging resolutions. Why does he repeat himself so much? Was young Jonathan suffering from scrupulosity? What can we learn about the gospel and our own resolutions from his commitment to focus on Christ's glory?

*This episode was originally published on 8/25/2025. In this week’s episode, Dr. Robert Smith Jr. and H.B. Charles Jr. join me as we discuss “Preaching in the African-American Tradition.” Robert The post Preaching in the African-American Tradition appeared first on Preaching and Preachers Institute.

Recurring special guest Ronnie Martin is back for his annual visit to the FTC Podcast Christmas episode! In this year's installment, the friends discuss the ironies and paradoxes in the Christmas story and the Christian's experience of it.

*This episode was originally published on 9/22/2025. In this week’s episode, Dr. Jared Bumpers is joined by Dr. Don Whitney to discuss “The Spirituality of Martyn Lloyd-Jones.” Dr. Whitney is The post The Spirituality of Martyn Lloyd-Jones appeared first on Preaching and Preachers Institute.

The guys introduce a new feature for the podcast today -- FTC Film Club! In each installment, Jared and Ronni will discuss a movie with significant spiritual themes and artistic quality. In this first entry in the Film Club conversation, they talk about Terrence Malick's A Hidden Life.

*This episode was originally published on 9/9/2025. In this week's episode, Dr. Jared Bumpers is joined by Dr. Tom Schreiner discussing “New Creation Millennialism.” Dr. Schreiner is an Associate Dean The post New Creation Millennialism appeared first on Preaching and Preachers Institute.

By popular demand, Jared Wilson and Ronni Kurtz discuss the church office of deacon. What is it? Who should be one? And how should they operate in a local church?

Kyle Worley is joined by Samuel Bierig to answer the question, “What does Jesus have to do with Proverbs?”Questions Covered in This Episode:What does Jesus have to do with Proverbs?Is it too simplistic to tell a Christian to just go do the things Proverbs says?Guest Bio:Samuel Bierig serves as Vice President of Undergraduate Studies, Dean of Spurgeon College, and Associate Professor of Biblical and Systematic Theology at Spurgeon College at Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary. Sam serves as lead pastor at Gashland Baptist Church. Sam completed his Ph.D. in biblical theology at Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary, where he wrote his dissertation on hermeneutics and the interpretation of the book of Proverbs. He is happily married to Mallory, and they have four children: Abby, Levi, Owen, and Piper.Resources Mentioned in this Episode:Proverbs 7“Proverbs: Walking in the Way of Christ” by Samuel Bierig Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | WebsiteOur Sister Podcast:Tiny TheologiansSupport Training the Church and Become a Patron:patreon.com/trainingthechurchYou can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway's Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship.To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page.Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

In this episode, Matt Boswell talks about the importance and beauty of our worship. Matt Boswell is a pastor at the Trails Church in North Texas. He also serves as professor of worship ministries at Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary. He is an author and hymn writer, known for songs including  “His Mercy Is More” and “Come Behold the Wondrous Mystery.” He is also the author of 'What If I Don't Like My Church's Music?' from Crossway. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Read the full transcript of this episode.⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ❖ Listen to “Hymn Stories: 'His Mercy Is More'" with Matt Boswell & Matt Papa: ⁠⁠Apple⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠Spotify⁠ If you enjoyed this episode, be sure to leave us a review, which helps us spread the word about the show.

In this week’s episode, Kevin Ezell joins me for a special Q&A. Dr. Kevin Ezell serves as the President of the North American Mission Board, providing strategic vision, direction, and The post Special Q&A with Kevin Ezell appeared first on Preaching and Preachers Institute.

Kyle Worley is joined by Matt Boswell to have a conversation about worship and hymns in the local church.Questions Covered in This Episode:Why should we value the congregational voice of the church?What's the difference between a psalm? A hymn? And a spiritual song?Are hymns just old songs?What's your favorite hymn? Why?What do you tell the person who says, “I don't like the singing? Just give me some preaching.”How do you determine what songs you sing in your church?What's your opinion on songs that emerge from churches or ministries where you'd disagree with the teaching of that ministry's theology?Tell me about the Sing hymnal - why a new hymnal and why now?Guest Bio:Matt Boswell is a hymn-writer and pastor of The Trails Church in Celina, Texas. He also serves as Professor of Worship Ministries at Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary and leads Doxology & Theology, a ministry focused on corporate worship.Resources Mentioned in this Episode:Ephesians 5:19, Colossians 1:15-20, Philippians 2:6-11, John 13:35Hark the Herald Angels SingBe Thou my Vision“The Sing! Hymnal” by Keith Getty and Kristyn Getty Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | WebsiteOur Sister Podcast:Tiny TheologiansSupport Training the Church and Become a Patron:patreon.com/trainingthechurchYou can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway's Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship.To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page.Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

It's another installment in our occasional Bible book feature. This time around, Jared Wilson visits again with the Dean of Spurgeon College Dr. Sam Bierig about the book of Proverbs. Why is it deceptively complex? How do we end up reading the book wrongly? How should we read it, and how should pastors preach it? And where do we see Jesus in it?

Kyle Worley is joined by Geoff Chang to discuss how Charles Spurgeon would answer specific questions if he were alive today.Questions Covered in This Episode:What are your thoughts on artificial intelligence?What are your thoughts on gambling?What are your thoughts on recreational marijuana?Guest Bio:Geoff Chang serves as Associate Professor of Church History and Historical Theology and the Curator of the Spurgeon Library at Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary. He is a graduate of The University of Texas at Austin (B.B.A.), The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary (M.Div.), and Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary (Ph.D.), where he wrote his dissertation on Charles H. Spurgeon's ecclesiology. He also serves the Book Review Editor for History & Historical Theology at Themelios, the academic journal for The Gospel Coalition. He is the volume editor of The Lost Sermons of C.H. Spurgeon Volumes 5, 6, and 7 and the author of Spurgeon the Pastor: Recovering a Biblical and Theological Vision for Ministry. He is married to Stephanie, and they have three children. You can follow him on Facebook and Twitter.Resources Mentioned in this Episode:“Lectures to My Students” by C H Spurgeon“Spurgeon the Pastor” by Geoffrey Chang Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | WebsiteOur Sister Podcast:Tiny TheologiansSupport Training the Church and Become a Patron:patreon.com/trainingthechurchYou can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway's Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship.To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page.Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

*This episode was originally published on 4/8/2019. This week on Preaching and Preachers, Jonathan Leeman joins me in a discussion on God's love and the local church. Jonathan is the The post God’s Love and the Local Church appeared first on Preaching and Preachers Institute.

Jared welcomes his wife Becky to the podcast for this special Thanksgiving week episode. They talk about family traditions, tips and reminders for being a gracious host, and how to remain thankful even in the midst of anxious or uncomfortable Thanksgivings.

Kyle Worley is joined by Don Whitney to answer the question, “How important is the local church and the Christian community to the journey of becoming more like Christ?”Questions Covered in This Episode:How important is the local church and the Christian community to the journey of becoming more like Christ?Helpful Definitions:Spiritual Disciplines: Practices found in the Bible by which we experience God and grow in Christlikeness.Fellowship: Koinónia (κοινωνία)Guest Bio:Don Whitney is the Professor of Biblical Spirituality and the John H. Powell Professor of Pastoral Ministry at Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary. He holds a M.Div., Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary; a D.Min., Trinity Evangelical Divinity School; and a Ph.D. in Theology from the University of the Free State, South Africa. He has authored several books, including but not limited to: Spiritual Disciplines for the Christian Life and Praying the Bible. Dr. Whitney also serves as the founder and president of The Center for Biblical Spirituality. Don lives with his wife Caffy in Kansas City, Missouri. The Whitneys have a married daughter, Laurelen, and five grandchildren.Resources Mentioned in this Episode:Luke 4“Spiritual Disciplines for the Christian Life” by Donald S Whitney Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | WebsiteOur Sister Podcast:Tiny TheologiansSupport Training the Church and Become a Patron:patreon.com/trainingthechurchYou can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway's Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship.To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page.Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

*This episode was originally published on 3/25/2019.This week on Preaching and Preachers, Drew Dyck joins me in a discussion on the pastor and self-discipline. Drew is an acquisitions editor at The post The Pastor and Self-Discipline appeared first on Preaching and Preachers Institute.

What makes a theology biblical theology? Shouldn't all theology be a biblical theology? On this episode of the FTC Podcast, Jared Wilson welcomes guest Sam Bierig, Dean of Spurgeon College, to talk about the special category of biblical theology, how the average Christian can engage in it, and resources available to help us engage in it well.

Capitol Hill Baptist Church, located just blocks away from the center of American power, has a rich 150-year history. Its members have participated in significant world events, advocated for religious freedoms, and spoken out against the moral failings of the times. There's no doubt this church has had a unique impact on evangelicalism from a significant location. But these lively characters and their unique experiences only tell part of this engaging narrative. Through real-life stories, A Light on the Hill reveals how God works through church bodies and remains faithful during times of uncertainty. Exploring themes such as pastoral ministry, faithfulness, courage, racial reconciliation, church and politics, and more, this book will help readers see the long-term effects of faithful church ministries. Ultimately they will be encouraged to invest in a local church and preserve the gospel for the next generation. I'm delighted to have the book's author, Caleb Morell on the program today. Caleb Morell (MDiv, Southern Baptist Theological Seminary) is an assistant pastor at Capitol Hill Baptist Church and a doctoral student in historical theology at Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary. He lives with his wife and three children on Capitol Hill in Washington, DC. The producer for today's program is Jeff McIntosh. Until next time, may God bless you.

Kyle Worley is joined by Jared Bumpers to answer the question, “Why does theological formation happen best in the local church?Questions Covered in This Episode:Why does theological formation happen best in the church?What does this mean at Midwestern Seminary?Helpful Definitions:Theology: The study of God and all other things in relation to God. John WebsterGuest Bio:Jared Bumpers is the Associate Professor of Preaching and Evangelism and FTC Cohorts Faculty Coordinator at Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary. Jared holds a B.S. in pastoral ministry from Baptist Bible College; an M.Div. from Luther Rice Seminary; a Th.M. in biblical studies from Liberty Baptist Theological Seminary; and a Ph.D. in Christian preaching from The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary. His doctoral research focused on the hermeneutic and homiletic of John Albert Broadus. Jared is married to Kimberly, and they have four children: McCartnie, Rush, Maverick, and Jett.Resources Mentioned in this Episode:2 Corinthians 3:18For the Church Cohorts Midwestern Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | WebsiteOur Sister Podcast:Tiny TheologiansSupport Training the Church and Become a Patron:patreon.com/trainingthechurchYou can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway's Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship.To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page.Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

In this week’s episode, I am joined by Dr. Tom Schreiner to discuss “The Justice and Goodness of God.” Dr. Schreiner is an Associate Dean for the School of Theology The post The Justice and the Goodness of God appeared first on Preaching and Preachers Institute.

Originally aired on July 21, 2021 On this episode of the FTC Podcast, Jared Wilson and Ronni Kurtz break down the implications of gospel-centrality beyond the buzzword.

Kyle Worley is joined by Peter Gurr to answer the question, “Why trust the New Testament?”Questions Covered in This Episode:Why trust the New Testament?When you are talking about the resurrection, is it a spiritual reality or a historical event?Guest Bio:Dr. Peter Gurry is Associate Professor of New Testament at Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary. He is the author of several books, including but not limited to Scribes and Scriptures. He is the Co-director of the Text & Canon Institute. He holds a PhD from the University of Cambridge.Resources Mentioned in this Episode:Acts“Scribes and Scripture” by John D Meade and Peter J Gurry Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | WebsiteOur Sister Podcast:Tiny TheologiansSupport Training the Church and Become a Patron:patreon.com/trainingthechurchYou can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway's Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship.To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page.Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

In this week’s episode, Dr. Jamie Dew joins me and some Midwestern Seminary faculty to discuss “Why We Are Southern Baptist.” Dr. James “Jamie” K. Dew was elected New Orleans The post Why We Are Southern Baptist appeared first on Preaching and Preachers Institute.

Originally aired on February 3, 2021 The tongue is indeed a fire. In this episode of the FTC Podcast, Jared Wilson and Ronni Kurtz discuss the danger of church gossip.

Kyle Worley is joined by Dr. Travis Montgomery to discuss how technology impacts spiritual formation.Questions Covered in This Episode:What is one blessing and one burden that technology provides on the journey of spiritual formation?Guest Bio:Dr. Travis Montgomery is the Assistant Professor of Christian Studies and Assistant Dean of Global Campus at Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary. He holds a B.A from Ozark Christian College and an M.Div. and Ph.D. from Midwestern. He is husband to Lauren, and a dad of three boys—twins Ebenezer (Ben) and Hezekiah (Ki), and Boaz (Bo). Resources Mentioned in this Episode:Colossians 3, Genesis 1Deep Discipleship Program Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | WebsiteOur Sister Podcast:Tiny TheologiansSupport Training the Church and Become a Patron:patreon.com/trainingthechurchYou can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway's Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship.To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page.Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Our first mailbag installment with returning co-host Ronni Kurtz! On this installment of the FTC Mailbag, the guys discuss responsible introversion, membership covenants, preaching the gospel from the Sermon on the Mount, and fiction recommendations for ministry leaders. As always, if you have a question or topic you'd like to hear on a future installment of the FTC Mailbag, email us at mailbag@ftc.co

To be in fellowship is to open yourself up to disappointments. But how do we deal with it when someone we trusted or respected disappoints us deeply? How can we avoid "spiritualizing" our disappointments or holding grudges? On this episode of the FTC Podcast, Jared Wilson and Ronni Kurtz discuss ways to give grace to others even -- especially -- when they don't deserve it.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley are joined by Ronni Kurtz to discuss the impassability of God.Questions Covered in This Episode:Why this is problematic to say (if it is): God has an emotional life.Does God feel?Is impassability part of historic Christian doctrine?What is true and beautiful about this?Are passions and emotions the same thing?When we say God is simple, what are we saying?What if you don't feel God's love?What do we lose if we lose impassability?As an image bearer, am I supposed to try to be impassable?Why is the doctrine of accommodation important to this conversation?Helpful Definitions:Impassable: God is not subject to emotions.Passion: Undergoing something.Diviven Simplicity: God is not composed of parts.Anthropomorphism: God describing himself in creaturely-like parts.Anthropopathism: God reveals himself in human emotive language.Anthropocronism: God describes himself in human-like time.Guest Bio:Ronni Kurtz serves as Assistant Professor of Systematic Theology at Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary. Dr. Kurtz holds a PhD in Systematic Theology, a ThM in Pedagogy, and an MDiv from Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary. He also has a BA in Biblical Studies from Southwest Baptist University. Dr. Kurtz is the author of numerous books and academic articles, including but not limited to Fruitful Theology, Proclaiming the Triune God, and Light Unapproachable. Resources Mentioned in this Episode:1 Peter 2, Romans 6:12, 2 Timothy 2:22, 1 John 4:7, Acts 14, Hebrews 4-5, Philippians 2, Exodus 33, 1 Samuel 15, Exodus 20, Job 4, 1 Samuel 15, Deuteronomy 32, Genesis 6Deep Discipleship Program Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | WebsiteOur Sister Podcast:Tiny TheologiansSupport Training the Church and Become a Patron:patreon.com/trainingthechurchYou can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway's Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship.To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page.Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.