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In this episode, we welcome Katy Faust to the show. She is a Children's Rights Advocate and the Founder and President of “Them Before Us”, a global movement defending children's right to their mother and father. She is also the author of several books including “Them Before Us: Why We Need a Global Children's Rights Movement”. In this interview, we discuss what made her start an anonymous blog, how being outed by a gay blogger led to her public advocacy for children's rights, why all children deserve a mother and a father, the difference between natural rights and legal rights, the impact fatherlessness is having on society at large, why gay adoption and surrogacy is wrong, the moral problems with IVF, why divorce should be avoided at all costs, and much more. Let's get into it… Episode notes and links HERE. Donate to support our mission of equipping men to push back darkness. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In episode 99 of The Road to Wisdom Podcast, Chloe and Keshia speak with Katy Faust — author, speaker, and founder of Them Before Us, a global movement advocating for the rights of children in family structures. She is the author of Them Before Us: Why We Need a Global Children's Rights Movement and co-author of Raising Conservative Kids in a Woke City. In this conversation, Chloe, Keshia and Katy Faust delve into the complexities of family dynamics, particularly focusing on the impact of divorce and the rights of children. They discuss the importance of prioritizing children's needs over adult desires, the risks associated with blended families, and the concept of mother deprivation. Katy emphasizes that while adults may seek happiness, it is the stability and presence of both parents that truly contribute to a child's well-being. The discussion also touches on the Cinderella effect, highlighting the dangers of unrelated adults in children's lives, and the societal narratives that often overlook the emotional needs of children in favor of adult satisfaction. Katy Faust discusses the irreplaceable role of mothers in child development, emphasizing the need for a mother's love and genetic connection. The dialogue explores modern parenting norms, the importance of marriage for child stability, and the justice owed to children in family structures. The speakers reflect on the societal challenges surrounding parenting, the impact of divorce on future generations, and the necessity of prioritizing children's needs over adult desires. Loved what you heard in this episode? Your support means the world. Make sure to hit that subscribe button, spread the word with your pals, and drop us a review. By doing so, you're not just tuning in – you're fueling our community's growth and paving the way for more incredible guests to grace our show. As the week rolls by, we're already cooking up more tantalizing content for your hungry ears. Keen to stay in the loop with the latest episode releases? Follow our journey on Instagram at @theroadtowisdom.podcast and catch behind-the-scenes action on our YouTube channel @theroadtowisdompodcast. Don't miss out on a thing – also, snag the freshest updates straight to your inbox by subscribing to our newsletter over at ⁠⁠https://www.theroadtowisdompodcast.com/⁠⁠. It's your VIP ticket to all things The Road To Wisdom

In episode 99 of The Road to Wisdom Podcast, Chloe and Keshia speak with Katy Faust — author, speaker, and founder of Them Before Us, a global movement advocating for the rights of children in family structures. She is the author of Them Before Us: Why We Need a Global Children's Rights Movement and co-author of Raising Conservative Kids in a Woke City. In this conversation, Chloe, Keshia and Katy Faust delve into the complexities of family dynamics, particularly focusing on the impact of divorce and the rights of children. They discuss the importance of prioritizing children's needs over adult desires, the risks associated with blended families, and the concept of mother deprivation. Katy emphasizes that while adults may seek happiness, it is the stability and presence of both parents that truly contribute to a child's well-being. The discussion also touches on the Cinderella effect, highlighting the dangers of unrelated adults in children's lives, and the societal narratives that often overlook the emotional needs of children in favor of adult satisfaction. Katy Faust discusses the irreplaceable role of mothers in child development, emphasizing the need for a mother's love and genetic connection. The dialogue explores modern parenting norms, the importance of marriage for child stability, and the justice owed to children in family structures. The speakers reflect on the societal challenges surrounding parenting, the impact of divorce on future generations, and the necessity of prioritizing children's needs over adult desires. Loved what you heard in this episode? Your support means the world. Make sure to hit that subscribe button, spread the word with your pals, and drop us a review. By doing so, you're not just tuning in – you're fueling our community's growth and paving the way for more incredible guests to grace our show. As the week rolls by, we're already cooking up more tantalizing content for your hungry ears. Keen to stay in the loop with the latest episode releases? Follow our journey on Instagram at @theroadtowisdom.podcast and catch behind-the-scenes action on our YouTube channel @theroadtowisdompodcast. Don't miss out on a thing – also, snag the freshest updates straight to your inbox by subscribing to our newsletter over at ⁠⁠https://www.theroadtowisdompodcast.com/⁠⁠. It's your VIP ticket to all things The Road To Wisdom

Jordan Peterson sits down with author, speaker, and founder and president of the children's rights organization Them Before Us, Katy Faust. They discuss the ethics of surrogate pregnancies, the importance of both the mother and father in the home, the purpose of marriage being for the child — not the adults, and the abysmal outcomes of no-fault divorce in our culture. Katy Faust is the founder and president of Them Before Us, a global movement defending children's right to their mother and father. She publishes, speaks, and testifies widely on why marriage and family are matters of justice for children. Her articles have appeared in Newsweek, USA Today, The Federalist, Public Discourse, WORLD Magazine, The Daily Signal, the Washington Examiner, the American Mind, and the American Conservative. She is on the advisory board for the Alliance for Responsible Citizenship. Katy helped design the teen edition of CanaVox, which studies sex, marriage, and relationships from a natural law perspective. Katy and co-author Stacy Manning detailed their philosophy of worldview transmission in their second book, “Raising Conservative Kids in a Woke City.” She and her pastor husband are raising their four children in Seattle. This episode was filmed on February 13th, 2025.  | Links | For Katy Faust: On X https://x.com/advo_katy?lang=en On Instagram https://www.instagram.com/katyfaustofficial/?hl=en Them Before Us website https://thembeforeus.com/ Them Before Us on X https://x.com/ThemBeforeUs?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor Read Katy's books on parenting: Them Before Us: Why We Need a Global Children's Rights Movement (2021) https://a.co/d/4l8WVET Raising Conservative Kids in a Woke City: Teaching Historical, Economic, and Biological Truth in a World of Lies (2023) https://a.co/d/8sN4Blb Pro-Child Politics: Why Every Cultural, Economic, and National Issue Is a Matter of Justice for Children (2024) https://a.co/d/7p0k6nL 

In today's episode, we're joined by Katy Faust, author and founder of the children's rights organization Them Before Us, for a compelling conversation about the world of IVF. We discuss Trump's recent executive order Expanding Access to In Vitro Fertilization, unpacking why it raises serious concerns for the well-being of children born through this technology. We talk about the evils of commercial surrogacy, and Katy sheds light on the deep, primal wound inflicted on infants when separated from the only mother they've ever known and placed in the arms of a stranger. We also explore a shocking case in Georgia, where a woman is suing an IVF clinic after giving birth to someone else's child after the clinic implanted the wrong embryo. From overseas human egg farms to Elon Musk's many children, we examine the harms of the booming commercial fertility industry and its impact on families and children alike. Share the Arrows 2025 is on October 11 in Dallas, Texas! Go to sharethearrows.com for tickets starting Friday, February 28. Buy Katy's book, "Them Before Us: Why We Need a Global Children's Rights Movement": https://a.co/d/3MDxKGq Buy Allie's new book, "Toxic Empathy: How Progressives Exploit Christian Compassion": https://a.co/d/4COtBxy --- Timecodes: (02:36) Katy Faust intro (03:00) Trump IVF Executive Order (07:23) IVF genetic screening (14:15) Executive Order opens door to fertility fraud (16:29) Existential questions created by IVF  (21:30) Primal wound in adoption vs. IVF  (28:16) Georgia woman sues IVF clinic after delivering wrong baby (35:19) Children need a father and a mother (39:32) Elon Musk's many children (51:24) Risks to children from unrelated adults (56:50) Overseas female egg farm  (01:00:38) Ukrainian surrogates give birth to abandoned children (01:04:57) OpenAI CEO Sam Altman has an IVF baby (01:09:45) Solutions for infertility besides IVF  ---   Links: Them Before Us https://thembeforeus.com/ The cost of conservative hypocrisy https://wng.org/opinions/the-cost-of-conservative-hypocrisy-1739940814 Women kept as slaves on HUMAN egg farm https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14372569/Women-slaves-human-egg-farm-gangsters.html --- Today's Sponsors: Masa Chips — Go to MasaChips.com and use promo code ALLIEB for a discount on your first time order of seed oil free tortilla chips! Good Ranchers — Go to GoodRanchers.com and use code ALLIE at checkout to claim $25 off, free express shipping, and your choice of FREE ground beef, chicken, or salmon in every order for an entire year. America's Christian Credit Union — Switch to America's Christian Credit Union today for faith-aligned banking with exceptional rates and nationwide access. Visit https://www.americaschristiancu.com/allie to get started! My Patriot Supply — Prepare yourself for anything with long-term emergency food storage. Get a $250 discount off your Emergency Food Kit at https://PrepareWithAllie.com. --- Related Episodes: Ep 876 | How LGBTQ Activists Are Redefining Infertility | Guest: Katy Faust (Part One) https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-876-how-lgbtq-activists-are-redefining-infertility/id1359249098?i=1000628613840 Ep 919 | No Good Surrogacies: A Surrogacy Baby Speaks Out | Guest: Olivia Maurel https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-919-no-good-surrogacies-a-surrogacy-baby-speaks/id1359249098?i=1000637866783 Ep 836 | Surrogacy Horror: Gay ‘Dads' Demand Abortion | Guest: Brittney Pearson https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-836-surrogacy-horror-gay-dads-demand-abortion-guest/id1359249098?i=1000620814003 ---   Buy Allie's book, You're Not Enough (& That's Okay): Escaping the Toxic Culture of Self-Love: https://alliebethstuckey.com/book Relatable merchandise – use promo code 'ALLIE10' for a discount: https://shop.blazemedia.com/collections/allie-stuckey Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Katy Faust, author of Them Before Us - Why We Need a Global Children's Rights Movement, joins Chloe and Mattingly to discuss the importance of a cohesive family unit.

We often think about the right that all children have- the right to life. But what about a child's right to his or her biological parents- both mother and father? Katy Faust, author of Them Before Us, joins us this week to discuss the life issues that surround children, marriage, and families.Katy Faust is the Founder and President of Them Before Us, a global movement defending children's right to their mother and father. She publishes, speaks, and testifies widely on why marriage and family are matters of justice for children. Her articles have appeared in Newsweek, USA Today, The Federalist, Public Discourse, WORLD Magazine, The Daily Signal, the Washington Examiner, the American Mind, and the American Conservative. She is on the advisory board for the Alliance for Responsible Citizenship. Katy helped design the teen edition of CanaVox which studies sex, marriage and relationships from a natural law perspective. She detailed her philosophy of worldview transmission in her book, Raising Conservative Kids in a Woke City. She and her pastor husband are raising their four children in Seattle.Find Katy's book Them Before Us: Why We Need a Global Children's Rights Movement  here.Learn more about being a Gospel-motivated voice 4 LIFE at Y4Life.org.

Katy Faust, President of Them Before Us and author of Them Before Us: Why We Need a Global Children's Rights Movement joins Samantha to discuss the tragic ways in which adult designs are made to reign supreme, no matter the cost to the children those decisions effect. Mentioned in this episode: Them Before Us organizationThem Before Us bookChildren of divorce article at The Federalist…Now on YouTube! www.youtube.com/@stephensonbioethicsFor exclusive updates or to support the podcast, sign up for the newsletter at www.faithandbioethics.com.Now available: Reclaiming Motherhood from a Culture Gone MadConnect: Instagram | Facebook | Twitter

In this episode, Jenn and Katy discuss the chapter "Adoption" from Them Before Us: Why We Need a Global Children's Rights Movement. If parents have a right to their biological mother and father, isn't TBU against adoption? The case is made that adoption is a good for society when it is properly understood and done with the rights and needs of the child in mind; Adoption treats the child as the client. It is strongly contrasted with the third-party reproduction industry, which makes children the products for adults.

Jenn and Katy continue their discussion of each chapter in Them Before Us Why We Need a Global Children's Rights Movement. This week, they tackle the ethical questions surrounding surrogacy: is it an altruistic pursuit that helps women unable to conceive or who, for whatever reason, cannot bring a pregnancy to fruition? Or is surrogacy an ethical violation that commodifies women and children?

Jenn and Katy discuss why “Biology Matters” the second chapter of her book, Them Before Us - Why We Need a Global Children's Rights Movement. They explore the importance of the relationship between a child's biological mother and father and the social-emotional nourishment a child derives from being raised in a home with married parents who love one another, living under the same roof. Also up for discussion is the difference between step-parents, mom's boyfriend, and adoptive parents; and finally they share some inspiring stories about non-related adults who are putting them (the children) before us (the adults).

My conversation with writer, activist, and overall powerhouse Katy Faust on what we owe our children and the future. I speak with Katy about her upbringing in a lesbian household, the problems with same-sex marriage and how redefining marriage has redefined parenthood, the implications of surrogacy on the child, IVF, divorce and step-parents, the issues with adoption and what the rights of the child should be. Katy Faust is the founder and director of the children's rights organization, Them Before Us, and the author of “Them Before Us: Why We Need a Global Children's Rights Movement.” You can also find her work on Twitter @Advo_Katy. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/aksubversive/message

Is divorce good or bad for children? There's tons of confusion around that question. In this episode, speaker and author Katy Faust offers answers with clarity and tons of research. She also touches on:How does divorce affect the children?Is divorce really worse than the death of a parent? What do children need that marriage provides?How do you navigate speaking about your parents in a respectful yet honest way?What's your advice to parents considering divorce?Buy Katy's book: Them Before Us: Why We Need a Global Children's Rights MovementTake the assessmentShownotes 

Do kids have a natural right to their mom and dad? Katy Faust argues that the answer is yes, and that we need a new campaign to protect the rights of children today. Katy is the author of the timely and provocative book Them Before Us, in which she argues that we need to put kids' rights before the desires of adults. This bonus episode was recorded on Sean's YouTube channel, which is in partnership with the Talbot Apologetics program.Katy Faust is the founder of Them Before Us, which aims to advance the rights of children. She is the author of Them Before Us: Why We Need a Global Children's Rights Movement.==========Think Biblically: Conversations on Faith and Culture is a podcast from Talbot School of Theology at Biola University, which offers degrees both online and on campus in Southern California.   Read a transcript of this episode at: https://www.biola.edu/blogs/think-biblically/2023/bonus-why-kids-have-a-right-to-mom-and-dad.   Find all episodes of Think Biblically at: https://www.biola.edu/think-biblically   Watch video episodes at: https://bit.ly/think-biblically-video   

Them Before Us Founder & President, Katy Faust joins the Womansplaining podcast to discuss the rights of children to a mother and father and our responsibility as adults to put their rights before our desires. Katy is one of the most courageous voices I know fighting for the rights of children. Them Before Us | Children's Needs Before Adults' DesiresGet the book: Them Before Us: Why We Need a Global Children's Rights Movement: Faust, Katy, Manning, Stacy, George, Robert: 9798888450116: Amazon.com: BooksFollow Katy on Twitter: (2) Katy Faust (@Advo_Katy) / TwitterKaty's "This is a Child" speech at NatCon: Katy Faust | This is a Child | NatCon 3 Miami - YouTubeConnect with me: info@juliebarrett.usjuliebarrett.us(2) Julie Barrett (@juliecbarrett) / TwitterJulie Barrett Womansplaining | FacebookSupport the show

The Christian Outlook – October 29, 2022 Don Kroah and Mat Staver, of the Liberty Counsel, talk about the CDC placing the Covid vaccine on the federal schedule of vaccines for children. Bill Bunkley talks with Justin Hart, author of “Gone Viral: How COVID Drove the World Insane,” about the CDC vote to mandate COVID shots in order for children to attend public school.  Georgene Rice talks with Brandon Showalter, columnist, and senior investigative reporter for the Christian Post about the article: “Medically ‘transing' children is a media-backed scandal, doctors warn.”    Dr. Albert Mohler and Katy Faust talk about her book, “Them Before Us: Why We Need a Global Children's Rights Movement.”See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

On this week's episode of The Van Maren Show, Jonathon sits down with Katy Faust, pro-family activist and author of Them Before Us: Why We Need a Global Children's Rights Movement, for a discussion on the natural right of all children to be raised by their biological mother and father, as well as why every other family arrangement risks negatively affecting the child's mental, physical, and emotional health. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

On this episode of The Federalist Radio Hour, Katy Faust, founder and director of Them Before Us, joins Federalist Culture Editor Emily Jashinsky to discuss the ethics of in vitro fertilization, surrogacy, and third-party reproduction and how those practices affect children's natural rights.You can find Faust's book "Them Before Us: Why We Need a Global Children's Rights Movement" here: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Them-Before-Us/Katy-Faust/9781642935967

On this episode of The Federalist Radio Hour, Katy Faust, founder and director of Them Before Us, joins Federalist Culture Editor Emily Jashinsky to discuss the ethics of in vitro fertilization, surrogacy, and third-party reproduction and how those practices affect children’s natural rights. You can find Faust’s book “Them Before Us: Why We Need a […]

This talk was delivered live for Live Life, a subsidiary of Live Christ Share Christ (LCSC). Live Life Facebook Page -- https://web.facebook.com/LCSCLiveLife References mentioned in the episode: Them Before Us: Why We Need a Global Children's Rights Movement -- https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08SCHJCTT/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1 Fatherless Generation Foundation (Stats of fatherless children) -- https://tfgf.org/about-us/ The Taxpayer Costs of Divorce and Unwed Childbearing -- https://www.healthymarriageinfo.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/The-Taxpayer-Costs-of-Divorce.pdf Smart Stepfamilies (Stats of children living on stepfamilies, out of wedlock and cohabitation) -- https://www.smartstepfamilies.com/smart-help/marriage-family-stepfamily-statistics Father absence linked to earlier puberty among certain girls -- https://news.berkeley.edu/2010/09/17/puberty/ Father Involvement, Dating Violence, and Sexual Risk Behaviors Among a National Sample of Adolescent Females -- https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5007216/ Cohabitation and the Abuse of America's Children -- https://www.thepublicdiscourse.com/2011/04/3181/ Fourth National Incidence Study of Child Abuse and Neglect (NIS-4) -- http://cap.law.harvard.edu/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/sedlaknis.pdf Pew Research Center (A Portrait of Stepfamilies) -- https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2011/01/13/a-portrait-of-stepfamilies/ Mothers and Others: Who Invests in Children's Health? -- https://www.nber.org/digest/sep00/mothers-and-others-who-invests-childrens-health A Generation at Risk: Growing Up in an Era of Family Upheaval -- https://www.amazon.com/Generation-Risk-Growing-Family-Upheaval/dp/0674003985 A Child of Divorce Speaks Out on the Importance of a Family -- https://www.ncregister.com/blog/a-child-of-divorce-speaks-out-on-the-importance-of-a-family Laura – I grew up in a world where marriage didn't mean anything, and nobody stuck around for very long -- https://thembeforeus.com/laura-i-grew-up-in-a-world-where-marriage-didnt-mean-anything-and-nobody-stuck-around-for-very-long/ Marripedia (Effects of Divorce on Family Relationships) -- http://marripedia.org/effects_of_divorce_on_family_relationships After my parents divorced, my childhood was no longer mine. It belonged to them -- https://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/facts-and-arguments/after-my-parents-divorced-my-childhood-was-no-longer-mine-it-belonged-to-them/article12358944/ God Heals a Child of Divorce -- https://borntodothis.org/2019/01/04/god-heals-a-child-of-divorce/?fbclid=IwAR1uu5vl7usbksLFGmlmJyin6g_EMzpyFMv_7d0EIpGkR9AjRNIyFn-5dq8​ Long-term Psychosocial effects of parental divorce -- https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs00406-006-0641-y Parental separation in childhood as a risk factor for depression in adulthood: a community-based study of adolescents screened for depression and followed up after 15 years -- https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5370459/ Kids Of Divorce And Suicide: New Study Shows Link -- https://www.huffpost.com/entry/divorce-and-suicidal-idea_n_812456 Childhood Trauma Leads To Lifelong Chronic Illness -- So Why Isn't The Medical Community Helping Patients? -- https://www.huffpost.com/entry/childhood-trauma-leads-to_b_11154082 Divorce 'damages children's GCSEs' -- https://www.bbc.com/news/education-30177051 Does Divorce Make People Happy? -- https://www.researchgate.net/publication/237233376_Does_Divorce_Make_People_Happy_Findings_From_a_Study_of_Unhappy_Marriages Marriage Foundation (Couples on the Brink) -- https://marriagefoundation.org.uk/research/couples-on-the-brink/ What Is Your Risk Of Dying From Covid-19? -- https://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2020/10/06/what-is-your-risk-of-dying-from-covid-19/?sh=53eb02496159 --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/thejayarugashow/message

Most of us would agree that children in a society should be protected and should have rights. But what should those rights be?In this episode of the Limitless Spirit Podcast, our host Helen Todd speaks with Katy Faust, the founder and director of the children's rights organization, “Them Before Us”. Katy's parents divorced when she was ten years old, and her father went on to remarry while her mother entered a same-sex relationship. She is now a mom of 4 children, she has worked at the largest Chinese adoption agency in the world, and she has 20 years of experience in youth ministry.  In this episode, you'll hear how Katy's professional experience as well as her parents' divorce shaped her strong view on the importance of putting the needs of children before the desires of adults. She will highlight the current trends that have the most devastating effect on children, and how we can help protect our kids from the indoctrination they face in culture. 3:52 - Katy Faust's story7:35 - Katy's inspiration to start the “Them Before Us” movement9:40 - The effect on a child of being deprived of a parent12:20 - Different threats to the emotional wellbeing of children in our culture16:50 - Katy talks about what surrogacy really is25:00 - How can we protect our kids from being harmed by today's culture?29:30 - How you can help the Them Before Us movement  You can read Katy Faust and Stacy Manning's book “Them Before Us: Why We Need a Global Children's Rights Movement” on Amazon:https://www.amazon.com/Them-Before-Us-Childrens-Movement/dp/1642935964 Learn more about Them Before Us at their website:https://thembeforeus.com/After you listen to this episode, go to our host website: www.rfwma.org and find out how World Missions Alliance can help you connect to your greater purpose. If you are interested in becoming a sponsor of the Limitless Spirit Podcast, click below:Support the show (https://rfwma.org/give)            Email us your questions and comments at podcast@rfwma.orgWMA is 501(c)(3), donations are tax deductibleSupport the show (https://rfwma.org/give)

Katy Faust is a children's rights advocate, she is the founder and director of Them Before Us, an organization that equips adults to defend the rights of all children. In this episode, Katy talked about her roots from growing up in a non-traditional family setup to being a children's rights advocate, her book "Them Before Us: Why We Need a Global Children's Rights Movement" and subjects that sprung from her book, like the daily "Nutrients" every child needs, why the biological parents are the best adults to take care of the child, and of course, since it's a hot topic in the country now, we talked about divorce, specifically the dangers of its No-Fault variant. You can help support this podcast when using these links for your online shopping! Lazada -> podlink.co/rgs Shopee -> podlink.co/ufj Amazon -> podlink.co/1sd Sign up for The Jay Aruga Show Newsletter where you will have direct access to behind the scenes stuff, more detailed stories about an episode, and where we can write to each other as well. -> https://sendfox.com/thejayarugashow Episode Music: 'Vaikuntha' by Spacebar --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/thejayarugashow/message

Children have the right to be raised by both their mother and father. That used to be a noncontroversial idea. But no longer. In their eye-opening 2021 book, Them Before Us: Why We Need a Global Children's Rights Movement (Post Hill Press, 2021), Katy Faust and Stacy Manning examine how children have been damaged by such developments as no-fault divorce, marriage equality, and the largely unregulated fields of surrogacy and in-vitro-fertilization. They argue that in the quest for the satisfaction of the desires of adults (the “Us” of the title), children (the “Them” of the title) have been treated as afterthoughts and made into tiny cheerleaders for lifestyles that have deprived the child of either a father or a mother by design. The authors quote extensively from a broad range of now adult children of same-sex couples, surrogacy and children of “donors” of sperm or eggs—which are not usually donated but bought and paid for. These personal testimonies are heartbreaking and expose the cost to the children of these arrangements and technologies. One example from a woman conceived via egg donation: It bothers me that I cost money, that the one woman I want most in this life is a stranger yet 50 percent of me. Sometimes I wish I weren't born. I didn't ask for this, and I never would have consented to it. The child of a male same-sex couple says: My five-year-old brain could not understand why I didn't have the mom that I suddenly desperately wanted. I felt the loss. I felt the hole. As I grew, I tried to fill that hole with aunts, my dads' lesbian friends, and teachers. I remember asking my first-grade teacher if I could call her Mom. I asked that question of any woman who showed me any amount of love and affection. It was instinctive. I craved a mother's love even though I was well loved by my two gay dads. This is an invaluable, gripping record in their own words of the trauma inflicted on children of this brave new world. They are moving documents that show the dark side of social and scientific changes that are often lauded as utterly desirable and unproblematic. Faust and Manning detail the repercussions of three categories of intentional parental loss: children who experienced divorce and abandonment, children with LGBT parents, and children born of surrogacy and via sperm and/or egg donation. They point out, for example, the startling contrast between adoption (heavily regulated) and surrogacy (basically, shockingly unregulated). This is an expose of historic importance. It should be read by anyone interested in the fields of bioethics, sociology, psychology, child development, law, public policy, gender studies and concerned about the fate of children born of reproductive technologies or raised intentionally without a mother or a father. The ramifications of these vast and sudden changes have not been addressed sufficiently or candidly outside of conservative scholarly circles. A crucial readership for this book is that of would-be parents considering having children outside of a traditional marriage or producing children via sperm or egg donation. Read what the children of such arrangements say of their lifelong pain and feelings of loss before you rush into a parenthood that cannot take place without intentional biological parent deprivation. We'll talk today with Katy Faust, the founder and director of Them Before Us and the co-author of this important book about the rights of children. Give a listen. Hope J. Leman is a grants researcher. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Children have the right to be raised by both their mother and father. That used to be a noncontroversial idea. But no longer. In their eye-opening 2021 book, Them Before Us: Why We Need a Global Children's Rights Movement (Post Hill Press, 2021), Katy Faust and Stacy Manning examine how children have been damaged by such developments as no-fault divorce, marriage equality, and the largely unregulated fields of surrogacy and in-vitro-fertilization. They argue that in the quest for the satisfaction of the desires of adults (the “Us” of the title), children (the “Them” of the title) have been treated as afterthoughts and made into tiny cheerleaders for lifestyles that have deprived the child of either a father or a mother by design. The authors quote extensively from a broad range of now adult children of same-sex couples, surrogacy and children of “donors” of sperm or eggs—which are not usually donated but bought and paid for. These personal testimonies are heartbreaking and expose the cost to the children of these arrangements and technologies. One example from a woman conceived via egg donation: It bothers me that I cost money, that the one woman I want most in this life is a stranger yet 50 percent of me. Sometimes I wish I weren't born. I didn't ask for this, and I never would have consented to it. The child of a male same-sex couple says: My five-year-old brain could not understand why I didn't have the mom that I suddenly desperately wanted. I felt the loss. I felt the hole. As I grew, I tried to fill that hole with aunts, my dads' lesbian friends, and teachers. I remember asking my first-grade teacher if I could call her Mom. I asked that question of any woman who showed me any amount of love and affection. It was instinctive. I craved a mother's love even though I was well loved by my two gay dads. This is an invaluable, gripping record in their own words of the trauma inflicted on children of this brave new world. They are moving documents that show the dark side of social and scientific changes that are often lauded as utterly desirable and unproblematic. Faust and Manning detail the repercussions of three categories of intentional parental loss: children who experienced divorce and abandonment, children with LGBT parents, and children born of surrogacy and via sperm and/or egg donation. They point out, for example, the startling contrast between adoption (heavily regulated) and surrogacy (basically, shockingly unregulated). This is an expose of historic importance. It should be read by anyone interested in the fields of bioethics, sociology, psychology, child development, law, public policy, gender studies and concerned about the fate of children born of reproductive technologies or raised intentionally without a mother or a father. The ramifications of these vast and sudden changes have not been addressed sufficiently or candidly outside of conservative scholarly circles. A crucial readership for this book is that of would-be parents considering having children outside of a traditional marriage or producing children via sperm or egg donation. Read what the children of such arrangements say of their lifelong pain and feelings of loss before you rush into a parenthood that cannot take place without intentional biological parent deprivation. We'll talk today with Katy Faust, the founder and director of Them Before Us and the co-author of this important book about the rights of children. Give a listen. Hope J. Leman is a grants researcher. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://newbooksnetwork.supportingcast.fm/law

Children have the right to be raised by both their mother and father. That used to be a noncontroversial idea. But no longer. In their eye-opening 2021 book, Them Before Us: Why We Need a Global Children's Rights Movement (Post Hill Press, 2021), Katy Faust and Stacy Manning examine how children have been damaged by such developments as no-fault divorce, marriage equality, and the largely unregulated fields of surrogacy and in-vitro-fertilization. They argue that in the quest for the satisfaction of the desires of adults (the “Us” of the title), children (the “Them” of the title) have been treated as afterthoughts and made into tiny cheerleaders for lifestyles that have deprived the child of either a father or a mother by design. The authors quote extensively from a broad range of now adult children of same-sex couples, surrogacy and children of “donors” of sperm or eggs—which are not usually donated but bought and paid for. These personal testimonies are heartbreaking and expose the cost to the children of these arrangements and technologies. One example from a woman conceived via egg donation: It bothers me that I cost money, that the one woman I want most in this life is a stranger yet 50 percent of me. Sometimes I wish I weren't born. I didn't ask for this, and I never would have consented to it. The child of a male same-sex couple says: My five-year-old brain could not understand why I didn't have the mom that I suddenly desperately wanted. I felt the loss. I felt the hole. As I grew, I tried to fill that hole with aunts, my dads' lesbian friends, and teachers. I remember asking my first-grade teacher if I could call her Mom. I asked that question of any woman who showed me any amount of love and affection. It was instinctive. I craved a mother's love even though I was well loved by my two gay dads. This is an invaluable, gripping record in their own words of the trauma inflicted on children of this brave new world. They are moving documents that show the dark side of social and scientific changes that are often lauded as utterly desirable and unproblematic. Faust and Manning detail the repercussions of three categories of intentional parental loss: children who experienced divorce and abandonment, children with LGBT parents, and children born of surrogacy and via sperm and/or egg donation. They point out, for example, the startling contrast between adoption (heavily regulated) and surrogacy (basically, shockingly unregulated). This is an expose of historic importance. It should be read by anyone interested in the fields of bioethics, sociology, psychology, child development, law, public policy, gender studies and concerned about the fate of children born of reproductive technologies or raised intentionally without a mother or a father. The ramifications of these vast and sudden changes have not been addressed sufficiently or candidly outside of conservative scholarly circles. A crucial readership for this book is that of would-be parents considering having children outside of a traditional marriage or producing children via sperm or egg donation. Read what the children of such arrangements say of their lifelong pain and feelings of loss before you rush into a parenthood that cannot take place without intentional biological parent deprivation. We'll talk today with Katy Faust, the founder and director of Them Before Us and the co-author of this important book about the rights of children. Give a listen. Hope J. Leman is a grants researcher. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://newbooksnetwork.supportingcast.fm/new-books-network

As the Supreme Court sided with a Catholic adoption agency this week, Dr. Grazie Christie talks to Katy Faust about her book, Them Before Us: Why We Need a Global Children's Rights Movement, discussing how adult desires have shifted the focus from what is most important--our children and their emotional well-being and safety. As the USCCB is meeting this week for their Spring meeting discussing Eucharistic coherence, we also chat with Brian Burch of Catholic Vote about a new poll commissioned exploring what Mass-going Catholics believe on the issue. Father Roger Landry also offers an inspiring homily. especially for dads, this Father's Day weekend! Catch the show every Saturday at 7amET/5pmET on EWTN radio!

Katy Faust is the Founder and Director of Them Before Us, which exists to advance social policies that encourage adults to actively respect the rights of children rather than expecting children to sacrifice their fundamental rights for the sake of adult desires. Katy’s new book Them Before Us: Why We Need a Global Children’s Rights Movement has flipped the script on adult-centric attitudes toward marriage, parenthood, and reproductive technologies by framing these issue around a child’s right to be raised by both their mother and father. Follow: Them Before Us Follow: Katy Faust Date: 06/03/21 To help UnAborted create more pro-life content and take our content to the streets, become a Patron of the show at https://www.patreon.com/unaborted To help Seth reach more high school and college students through pro-life presentations around the country, become a monthly supporter at https://prolifetraining.com/donate/

Description: Conversations about polyamory, same-sex parenting, and other alternative family arrangements have received increased national attention in recent years. But so often, these discussions focus primarily on the interests and desires of adults and pay very little attention to the wellbeing of children. What factors should serve as the impetus for change in policy and culture around child welfare? How should we balance the desires of adults with the needs of children when making decisions about the type of family a child will be raised in? In this episode, Naomi and Ian are joined by https://twitter.com/Advo_Katy?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor (Katy Faust), author of “https://www.amazon.com/Them-Before-Us-Childrens-Movement/dp/1662077505 (Them Before Us: Why We Need a Global Children's Rights Movement),” and founder of an advocacy organization with the same title. Katy discusses why her organization is advancing a child-centered approach to parenting, adoption, and child welfare. She outlines her conclusions from quantitative research and the stories of children and adults looking back on their childhood about the type of family arrangement that is best suited to help kids flourish, and the implications that has for public policy.  Show notes: 01:15 | The child-centered approach to child welfare and adoption Katy Faust is advocating 05:50 | What does it mean for children to have natural rights, independent of the desires and interests of adults? 10:20 | Why, in the world of children's rights, adults must do hard things 12:40 | The importance of storytelling in the fight for children's rights 14:05 | The data show that any family structure other than a child living with their two biological parents leads to worse outcomes for children 21:50 | Why “Them Before Us” seeks to change both hearts and laws

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