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Dr. Eric S. Weaver is nationally recognized for his work in primary care transformation and value-based care. He is the Executive Director of the Accountable Care Learning Collaborative, a nonprofit organization established by former HHS Secretary Mike Leavitt and former CMS Administrator Dr. Mark McClellan to accelerate the value-based care readiness of healthcare organizations. Eric has an extensive executive leadership track record with physician-led ACOs and risk-bearing entities. He previously held the role of corporate vice president for Innovista Health Solutions, a population health management services organization, and oversaw enterprise capital investment strategy and technology adoption. Eric was also the President, and CEO of Austin, Texas-based Integrated ACO – one of the most successful physician-led Accountable Care Organizations in the Medicare Shared Savings Program before its acquisition by Evolent Health. Eric is a committed health care executive with Fellow designations from the American College of Healthcare Executives, the Medical Group Management Association and the Health Information and Management Systems Society. He received his Master of Healthcare Administration degree from Texas State University and his Doctor of Healthcare Administration degree from the Medical University of South Carolina. He was the recipient of the ACHE Robert S. Hudgens Award for Young Healthcare Executive of the Year and the Modern Healthcare “Up & Comers” Award in 2016. In addition, he was named to Becker's Hospital Review list of “Rising Stars: 25 Healthcare Leaders Under 40” in 2015, and awarded the Young Alumni Rising Award from Texas State University. In addition to his work as a healthcare executive, Eric serves on various Boards such as the Texas State Development Foundation, the Dell Medical School Society for Health & Business, and the Half Helen Foundation. In his free time, he enjoys spending time outdoors and traveling with his wife and daughter. Here in Episode #110 Eric starts our show with a leadership mindset that centers us around fostering strong relationships. Eric walks us through his career path going from the administration, and into blazing a path for value-based care. He also gives us a current state report of the state of value-based care. Eric shares a dark moment story around using leadership setbacks to gain career focus. He tells us why taking smart career risks will pay-off over time. He also highlights how to use your WHY, to build great teams. Eric shares how the ACLC continues to build strong partners throughout the pandemic. He gives us his personal AHA connected with improvement opportunities for healthcare. He shares thoughts on how quality people will drive healthcare transformations. He ties in connections between innovation, entrepreneurship, and value-based care. And gives us his best career advice. • Connect with Dr. Eric on LinkedIn • Learn more about the ACLC • Check out Eric's Podcast • Access the Healthcare QualityCast LinkedIn Group • Leaves Us a Rating • Earn Your Lean Six Sigma for Healthcare Certification • Request a Corporate Demo of our online QI Academy
Look, bottom line, value-based care has to be the future of health care delivery in this country. That’s just inarguable at this point. Nobody disagrees except for health care industry stakeholders trying to reap as much reward as possible while the going is good. And they’ve been really successful with their reaping thus far. Here’s the thing, though: There’s speculation that health insurance premiums may go up, like, 4% to 40% next year if the status quo remains the status quo. Is this the moment when we all start to get real about value-based care? Not because it would be a nice thing to get up and running, but because we have to. Health care costs are already too high in this country. You can’t just add 40% and think that somebody’s gonna find that kind of change in the bottom of their pocket, which has already been turned inside out. But also because on the provider side of the equation, it’s less risky. Here’s what I mean by less risky: All of those health systems struggling right now because of the decrease in elective procedures—if they had all had a significant portion of their revenue derived from value-based agreements where they were contracted to take care of populations, they’d all still be getting paid their global/capitated payments right now and actually able to take care of patients who need care instead of sitting on the sidelines watching their bank accounts dwindle. In this health care podcast, I speak with Eric Weaver, who is the newly minted executive director of the Accountable Care Learning Collaborative based in Utah. We talk about how life could have been a lot different for PCPs and also specialists, by the way, and health systems had we lived in a value-based world instead of an FFS (fee-for-service) one. Considering that this pandemic might consist of waves that extend for months if not years, this might be a call to action for providers to get meetings set up with payers, like, right now to switch up payment terms into value. But it’s also a call to action for purchasers of health care like employers and commercial carriers. When I was talking to Guy Culpepper, a PCP, in episode 272, he really wants value-based contracts; but he can’t get them alone. Purchasers and payers have to be willing to come to the table and offer them. So come on, everybody! Let’s belly up to the conference room table—or your little Zoom Brady Bunch box, as the case may be. Now’s the time to really flip the switch to payment models that work for patients and enable physicians at the same time to provide the kind of care that’s in alignment with their values. One acronym heads-up in this conversation that I have with Eric Weaver coming up: APM stands for advanced payment model, which is, at its simplest level, a kind of value-based payment model. You can learn more at accountablecarelc.org. You can also connect with Eric on Twitter at @Eric_S_Weaver or on LinkedIn. Eric Weaver, DHA, MHA, is nationally recognized for his work in payment and delivery transformation. He is the recently appointed executive director of the Accountable Care Learning Collaborative (ACLC), a nonprofit organization founded by former Secretary of Health and Human Services Mike Leavitt and former Administrator of the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services Dr. Mark McClellan. With a mission to accelerate the readiness of health care organizations transitioning to value-based payment, the ACLC has defined the standards for high-value organizations and the workforce skills and competencies needed to advance value-based care. Dr. Weaver has been recognized for his contribution to the health care industry by receiving the ACHE Robert S. Hudgens Award for Young Healthcare Executive of the Year and the Modern Healthcare “Up & Comers” Award in 2016. Prior to assuming his new leadership role with the ACLC earlier this month, Dr. Weaver was a senior vice president for Innovista Health Solutions, a population health MSO, and was the president and CEO of Austin, Texas–based Integrated ACO—one of the more successful physician-led accountable care organizations in the country. For more information on Dr. Weaver and his vision for the future of the ACLC, you may access this video. If you are a provider organization looking to succeed in value-based care, you can obtain a free membership to the ACLC at accountablecarelc.org/join-us. 03:23 Is this pandemic an inflection point for value-based care? 04:10 “If United Kingdom built their National Health System post-World War II, why can’t we rebuild ours?” 04:40 “If it’s ever gonna happen, it’s gonna happen now. I just think we need to wake up.” 05:04 Do volume decreases equal payment decreases? 06:10 Where value-based care plays into specialty care vs primary care. 06:21 “There just hasn’t been a value on cognitive services as there has been on procedural volume-based care.” 06:55 “I really think that independents have to be in the driver’s seat here.” 06:59 The possible silver lining in this pandemic. 08:07 Why it’s mostly about economic incentive … with a couple of caveats. 12:21 More or less hospitals when this shakes out? 14:01 “There has to be some standard of measurement for quality, and we all know that.” 17:00 Where the patient experience plays into the value-based care equation. 21:54 “We have to be thinking about the consumer and the patient.” 22:25 Where employers land in this equation. 25:14 What happens to the value-based care measures that were in place and aren’t anymore? 27:20 How carriers buying providers impacts value-based care. 29:54 “I really think we’re … [looking at] a new normal.” 30:49 “We have to go all in.” You can learn more at accountablecarelc.org. You can also connect with Eric on Twitter at @Eric_S_Weaver or on LinkedIn. Check out our newest #healthcarepodcast with @Eric_S_Weaver of @The_ACLC as he discusses transitioning from #feeforservice to #valuebasedcare during #covid19. #healthcare #podcast #digitalhealth #ffs Is this pandemic an inflection point for value-based care? @Eric_S_Weaver of @The_ACLC discusses transitioning from #feeforservice to #valuebasedcare during #covid19. #healthcare #podcast #digitalhealth #ffs “If United Kingdom built their National Health System post-World War II, why can’t we rebuild ours?” @Eric_S_Weaver of @The_ACLC discusses transitioning from #feeforservice to #valuebasedcare during #covid19. #healthcare #podcast #digitalhealth #ffs “If it’s ever gonna happen, it’s gonna happen now. I just think we need to wake up.” @Eric_S_Weaver of @The_ACLC discusses transitioning from #feeforservice to #valuebasedcare during #covid19. #healthcare #podcast #digitalhealth #ffs Do volume decreases equal payment decreases? @Eric_S_Weaver of @The_ACLC discusses transitioning from #feeforservice to #valuebasedcare during #covid19. #healthcare #podcast #digitalhealth #ffs Where value-based care plays into specialty care vs primary care. @Eric_S_Weaver of @The_ACLC discusses transitioning from #feeforservice to #valuebasedcare during #covid19. #healthcare #podcast #digitalhealth #ffs “There just hasn’t been a value on cognitive services as there has been on procedural volume-based care.” @Eric_S_Weaver of @The_ACLC discusses transitioning from #feeforservice to #valuebasedcare during #covid19. #healthcare #podcast #digitalhealth #ffs “I really think that independents have to be in the driver’s seat here.” @Eric_S_Weaver of @The_ACLC discusses transitioning from #feeforservice to #valuebasedcare during #covid19. #healthcare #podcast #digitalhealth #ffs Why it’s mostly about economic incentive … with a couple of caveats. @Eric_S_Weaver of @The_ACLC discusses transitioning from #feeforservice to #valuebasedcare during #covid19. #healthcare #podcast #digitalhealth #ffs “There has to be some standard of measurement for quality, and we all know that.” @Eric_S_Weaver of @The_ACLC discusses transitioning from #feeforservice to #valuebasedcare during #covid19. #healthcare #podcast #digitalhealth #ffs Where the patient experience plays into the value-based care equation. @Eric_S_Weaver of @The_ACLC discusses transitioning from #feeforservice to #valuebasedcare during #covid19. #healthcare #podcast #digitalhealth #ffs “We have to be thinking about the consumer and the patient.” @Eric_S_Weaver of @The_ACLC discusses transitioning from #feeforservice to #valuebasedcare during #covid19. #healthcare #podcast #digitalhealth #ffs Where do #employers land in this equation? @Eric_S_Weaver of @The_ACLC discusses transitioning from #feeforservice to #valuebasedcare during #covid19. #healthcare #podcast #digitalhealth #ffs “I really think we’re … [looking at] a new normal.” @Eric_S_Weaver of @The_ACLC discusses transitioning from #feeforservice to #valuebasedcare during #covid19. #healthcare #podcast #digitalhealth #ffs “We have to go all in.” @Eric_S_Weaver of @The_ACLC discusses transitioning from #feeforservice to #valuebasedcare during #covid19. #healthcare #podcast #digitalhealth #ffs
In this health care podcast, seven thought leaders talk about the areas of promise they see in health care in 2020. Seven thought leaders include: Kimberly Noel, MD, from Stony Brook Medicine Eric Weaver, from Innovista Health Solutions Suzanne Delbanco, from Catalyst for Payment Reform Sue Schade, from StarBridge Advisors Naomi Fried, from Health Innovation Strategies Joe Grundy, from Grundy Consulting Adrian Rubstein, from Merck Just a couple of comments up front here. I don’t want to further my reputation for dropping major spoilers, however, so I’ll keep this short. Many of the thought leaders today talk about AI in various contexts. Are you rolling your eyes right now? If so, let me remind everyone about the Gartner Hype Cycle. The first step is wild-eyed enthusiasm. The next step in the hype cycle is anger, the old trough of disillusionment. I’d suggest that as far as AI is concerned, we are coming out of that trough and AI—be it artificial intelligence or augmented intelligence or machine learning or deep learning or whatever you choose to call it—it is being used, for reals, for various applications. Other corroborations among our thought leaders include the importance of exalting primary care, in the form of what some may call direct primary care and Zeev Neuwirth calls complex-condition care or condition-specific care—a relationship model, if you will. Another idea that comes up in various ways is the idea of breaking down silos and getting everyone with a stake in patient health to the table and focused on achieving better patient outcomes using all the technology and wherewithal available to us in 2020. By all the stakeholders, I mean going beyond the usual suspects of providers and insurance carriers—meaning employers. Also meaning Pharma, in the sense of Pharma taking the opportunity to collaborate more deeply toward outcomes their medications can potentially confer … IRL with RWE. Today’s episode features the following guests: Kimberly Noel, MD, MPH, is a board-certified, preventive medicine physician. She serves as the telehealth director and deputy chief medical information officer of Stony Brook Medicine, where she provides leadership to all telehealth activities of the health system. Dr. Noel is also the chief quality officer of the patient-centered medical home (PCMH) for the family medicine department, working on quality improvement and population health management for National Committee for Quality Assurance (NCQA) designation. She practices occupational medicine clinically and provides digital solutions for employee wellness programs. She is an appointee the New York State Department of Health Regulatory Modernization Initiative Telehealth Advisory Committee and has won many service and innovation awards for health care. In academia, her research areas are in machine learning, risk models, and remote patient monitoring. Dr. Noel has developed several educational curriculums, including a 40-hour telehealth curriculum for the School of Medicine, as well as interprofessional educational curriculums with the School of Health Technology and Management, Nursing, Dentistry, and Social Work. Dr. Noel is a graduate of Duke, George Washington, and Johns Hopkins Universities. She is a proud graduate of the Stony Brook Preventive Medicine program, whereby she is now working collaboratively with the residency program leadership on development of a telehealth preventive medicine service. Eric Weaver, DHA, MHA, is nationally recognized for his work in primary care transformation and value-based care. As a corporate vice president for Innovista Health Solutions, he oversees enterprise strategy and technology adoption for a fast-growing population health management services organization. Dr. Weaver has been recognized for his contribution to the health care industry by receiving the ACHE Robert S. Hudgens Award for Young Healthcare Executive of the Year and the Modern Healthcare “Up & Comers” Award in 2016. Prior to joining the Innovista leadership team in 2015, he was the president and CEO of Austin, Texas–based Integrated ACO—one of the more successful physician-led accountable care organizations in the country. Suzanne Delbanco, PhD, is the executive director of Catalyst for Payment Reform (CPR), an independent, nonprofit corporation working to catalyze employers, public purchasers, and others to implement strategies that produce higher-value health care and improve the functioning of the health care marketplace. In addition to her duties at CPR, Suzanne serves on the advisory board of The Source on Healthcare Price & Competition at the University of California–Hastings and the Blue Cross Blue Shield Institute. Previously, she was the founding CEO of The Leapfrog Group. Suzanne holds a PhD in public policy from the Goldman School of Public Policy and an MPH from the School of Public Health at the University of California–Berkeley. Sue Schade, MBA, is a nationally recognized health IT leader and Principal at StarBridge Advisors providing consulting, coaching, and interim management services. She recently served as the interim chief information officer (CIO) at Stony Brook Medicine in New York. She was a founding advisor at Next Wave Health Advisors and in 2016 served as the interim CIO at University Hospitals in Cleveland, Ohio. Sue previously served as CIO for the University of Michigan Hospitals and Health Centers and, prior to that, as CIO for Brigham and Women’s Hospital in Boston. Her previous experience includes leadership roles at Advocate Health Care in Chicago, Ernst & Young, and a software/outsourcing vendor. Naomi Fried, PhD, is an innovative and digital health thought leader and founder and CEO of the boutique advisory firm, Health Innovation Strategies, which focuses on innovation program design and digital health strategy. Naomi was the first vice president of innovation and external partnerships at Biogen, the first chief innovation officer at Boston Children’s Hospital, and vice president of innovation and advanced technology at Kaiser Permanente. She served on the board of directors of the American Telemedicine Association and the Governor of Massachusetts’ Innovation Council. Joe Grundy has firsthand experience with nearly every aspect of primary care transformation. He has led policy and product development for the American Academy of Family Physicians, led in-the-trenches transformation of a primary care group, and served as national faculty for Medicare’s Comprehensive Primary Care Plus transformation project. He cofounded Grundy Consulting to work with stakeholders across the industry in order to accelerate the rate of effective transformation in primary care. Adrian Rubstein is a medical adviser and innovation manager at Merck KGaA, where he works to bring cutting-edge technologies to improve patients’ lives. He also helps new biotech companies in strategy development, investment, and business analysis. 02:41 Dr. Kimberly Noel and her thoughts on areas of promise. 02:53 Advocacy for inclusive innovation. 04:01 Why inclusive innovation is an area of promise in the advent of artificial intelligence (AI). 04:52 “Who is most likely to be disadvantaged?” 05:27 Eric Weaver’s thoughts on areas of promise. 05:42 Relationship-driven, team-based primary care. 07:14 What investors are focused on right now. 07:34 Where the tipping point is in value-based care. 08:03 AI as another trend that will help improve health care. 08:48 Incorporating social determinants into primary care and the transformative potential of AI. 11:07 Suzanne Delbanco of Catalyst for Payment Reform and her thoughts on areas of promise. 11:26 Employers making the health care space work better for them as an area of promise. 11:52 Employers seeking out high-value health care in nontraditional ways. 13:10 Where to look to seek high-value health care. 14:37 Employers bringing in really good data. 16:15 Sue Schade’s thoughts on areas of promise. 16:32 How leveraging electronic health records is an area of promise. 16:58 Why eliminating clinician burnout is also part of this area of promise. 17:26 Patient engagement and the patient journey as another area of promise. 18:08 “You have to approach all of these from a partnership between digital, IT, and operations.” 18:30 Enterprise resource planning (ERP) as a third area of focus/promise. 19:01 AI as an area of promise and an area of hype. 19:48 Naomi Fried’s thoughts on areas of promise in health care. 20:02 Digital health developments from the pharma perspective. 22:15 The digital health start-up world as another area of interest and promise. 22:37 The importance of data and the importance of validating those data for digital health solutions. 23:02 Personalized medicine and digital health. 24:32 More jobs in digital health within clinical-grade solutions. 25:01 Joe Grundy’s thoughts on areas of promise in health care. 25:06 The direct primary care model as an area of promise. 26:08 “Questioning the very validity of our understanding of ‘quality’ in health care.” 28:01 Adrian Rubstein’s thoughts on areas of promise in health care. 28:08 AI in emergency medicine as an area of promise. 28:53 CRISPR gene editing as an area of promise. 29:59 Virtual reality/augmented reality as another area of promise in health care. Check out our newest #healthcarepodcast where @SuzanneDelbanco of @CPR4healthcare, @adrianrubstein, @DrKimNoel, @NaomiFried, @Eric_S_Weaver, and @sgschade of @StarBridgeHIT give their thoughts on #areasofpromise in #healthcare. #podcast #digitalhealth #healthtech #healthIT #AI Why #inclusiveinnovation is an #areaofpromise in the advent of #artificialintelligence? @DrKimNoel explains on our #healthcarepodcast this week. #healthcare #podcast #digitalhealth #healthtech #AI “Who is most likely to be disadvantaged?” @DrKimNoel discusses on our #healthcarepodcast this week. #healthcare #podcast #digitalhealth #healthtech #AI #inclusiveinnovation Why does @Eric_S_Weaver believe relationship-driven, team-based #primarycare is an upcoming #areaofpromise in #healthcare? Listen to our #healthcarepodcast to find out! #podcast #digitalhealth #healthtech #AI Where’s the tipping point in #valuebasedcare? @Eric_S_Weaver discusses on our #healthcarepodcast. #healthcare #podcast #digitalhealth #healthtech #AI What’s the transformative potential of #AI in #healthcare? @Eric_S_Weaver discusses on our #healthcarepodcast. #podcast #digitalhealth #healthtech #AI Why is #employers seeking out #highvaluehealthcare in nontraditional ways an #areaofpromise in #healthcare to @SuzanneDelbanco of @CPR4healthcare? Find out on our #healthcarepodcast. #digitalhealth #healthtech #AI Where should #employers be looking to seek out #highvaluehealthcare? @SuzanneDelbanco of @CPR4healthcare discusses on our #healthcarepodcast. #healthcare #podcast #digitalhealth #healthtech How can leveraging #EHRs be an #areaofpromise? @sgschade of @StarBridgeHIT discusses on our #healthcarepodcast. #healthcare #digitalhealth #healthtech #AI How does eliminating #clinicianburnout also play into #areasofpromise in #healthcare? @sgschade of @StarBridgeHIT discusses on our #healthcarepodcast. #healthtech #digitalhealth #AI #podcast “You have to approach all of these from a partnership between digital, IT, and operations.” @sgschade of @StarBridgeHIT discusses on our #healthcarepodcast. #healthcare #podcast #healthtech #digitalhealth #AI Where do #areasofpromise in #healthcare play into #digitalhealth developments from the #pharma perspective? @NaomiFried explains on our #healthcarepodcast. #podcast #healthtech #AI Why is the #digitalhealth start-up world an #areaofpromise in #healthcare? @NaomiFried explains on our #healthcarepodcast. #podcast #healthtech #AI “Questioning the very validity of our understanding of ‘quality’ in health care.” Joe Grundy discusses on our #healthcarepodcast. #healthcare #podcast #digitalhealth #healthtech #AI Why is #AI in #emergencymedicine an #areaofpromise in #healthcare to @adrianrubstein? Find out on our #healthcarepodcast. #healthcare #podcast #digitalhealth #healthtech #GeneEditing and #VR/#AR as #areasofpromise in #healthcare. @adrianrubstein discusses on our #healthcarepodcast. #podcast #digitalhealth #healthtech #AI
On this episode of ACHE’s Healthcare Executive Podcast, Alan Keesee, FACHE, recipient of the 2019 Robert S. Hudgens Memorial Award for Young Healthcare Executive of the Year, talks to Chris Coraggio about his experience as the administrator on call at Sunrise Hospital and Medical Center in Las Vegas, the night the country experienced the largest mass shooting in U.S. history. Keesee, currently the CEO of Capital Regional Medical Center in Tallahassee, Fla., also offers advice to young leaders on soliciting performance feedback regularly as they aspire to the C-suite.
Eric Weaver, DHA, MHA, is nationally recognized for his work in primary care transformation and value-based care. As a corporate vice president for Innovista Health Solutions, he oversees enterprise strategy and technology adoption for a fast-growing population health management services organization. Dr. Weaver has been recognized for his contribution to the health care industry by receiving the ACHE Robert S. Hudgens Award for Young Healthcare Executive of the Year and the Modern Healthcare “Up & Comers” Award in 2016. Prior to joining the Innovista leadership team in 2015, he was the president and CEO of Austin, Texas–based Integrated ACO—one of the more successful physician-led accountable care organizations in the country. 01:41 Why investors are or are not leaving hospitals. 02:51 Why Eric believes the times are changing. 02:58 How hospitals are going to have to rethink their business model. 03:42 “Consolidating definitely creates leverage.”—Stacey 04:16 Physician-led ACOs vs hospital-led ACOs, and which are performing better. 05:34 How physician-led ACOs actually have an advantage. 06:33 Physicians playing a large role in the transition to value-based care. 07:23 Will physician-led ACOs come out on top? 09:38 Bundled payments for specialists? 10:05 The new wave of delivering care. 11:44 “Ultimately, what you want to march towards ... is having delegated capabilities.” 13:37 Getting all three: high quality, lower costs, and better patient experiences. 15:10 “You’re gonna have to take risks with this.” 19:31 Creating enablement across the risk continuum. 19:54 Incremental things you can do to be more patient-centered. 20:38 The need to pick a partner in this new transition. 21:59 Understanding how key physician partnership is. 23:16 Supporting the average doctor. 23:45 “We have to know that they can overcome the barriers.” 24:37 “Take the steps to start doing something.” 24:54 Creating disruptive innovations toward patient-centered care. 27:09 Deconstructing the model of the "team."
Eric Weaver is president of Innovista Health Solutions, overseeing the central Texas market for the firm that manages over 30 accountable care organizations in Illinois and Texas. As a nationally-recognized healthcare executive with leadership experience in value-based/population health management and managed care settings, Eric has successfully developed collaborative approaches in healthcare delivery with physicians and payers, and has been instrumental in bridging the gap between technical and non-technical groups. He is an American College of Healthcare Executives award winner for Young Healthcare Executive of the Year, and a Modern Healthcare 2016 Up & Comer. Connect with Eric