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The 21st century may be the Pacific Century, and China appears poised to become America’s greatest rival for global power and influence. Hosts John Yoo and Michael Auslin broadly address developments in China and Asia. They discuss the latest politics, economics, law, and cultural news, with a focus on US policy in the region.

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    Full Steam Ahead with the First Sea Lord | Michael Auslin | Hoover Institution

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 8, 2023 58:32


    Admiral Sir Ben Key, First Sea Lord, talks about his life on the sea, the Royal Navy around the globe, and its growing role in the Indo-Pacific.

    Larry Summers Lays Down the Law | Michael Auslin | Hoover Institution

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 23, 2023 44:53


    Larry Summers discusses why America is committed to economic interdependence with China and how to protect US interests going forward.

    The Coast Guard Jumps into the Pacific Ocean | Michael Auslin | Hoover Institution

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 26, 2023 57:14


    Admiral Linda Fagan, Commandant of the US Coast Guard talks about what Coasties do in the Asia-Pacific and around the world, their new cutters, and about leading the service.

    Mao's Party Never Ends | Michael Auslin | Hoover Institution

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 13, 2022 48:59


    Misha is joined by his Hoover colleague, historian Frank Dikotter, to talk about Frank's new book, China After Mao, how the West misunderstands the Party's nature, and why the idea of a liberalizing China has always been a chimera. 

    Spies and Lies: China Subverts the World | Michael Auslin | Hoover Institution

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 30, 2022 58:54


    Misha is joined by Alex Joske, author of Spies and Lies, to talk about China's covert foreign interference and influence campaigns, run by the Ministry of State Security.

    Xi's the One | Michael Auslin | Hoover Institution

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 27, 2022 60:44


    Misha is joined by occasional co-host Cindy Yu and veteran Sinologists Rana Mitter and Jude Blanchette, to take apart the 20th Party Congress, Xi's “running the table,” the Hu Jintao shocker, and the Party's new era. 

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    Sir Lawrence Freedman on Nuclear Strategy | Michael Auslin | Hoover Institution

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 19, 2022 46:08


    Hoover Institution fellow Michael Auslin is joined by eminent strategist Sir Lawrence Freedman to talk about whether Putin will use nuclear weapons in Ukraine, how China is expanding its nuclear arsenal, the relationship between political and military leadership, and Freedman's favorite nuclear-themed movie.

    Chinese Spies: Is America helpless against PRC espionage?

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 6, 2022 49:21


    Misha is joined by former Anna Puglisi, former National Counterintelligence Officer for China, and Matt Brazil, author of Chinese Communist Espionage, to discuss just how widely and successfully Chinese spies have penetrated American business, government, and academia.

    From Shangri-La to the Great Game in Southeast Asia

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 21, 2022 54:38


    Misha is joined by Cindy Yu, of the Spectator, to talk with James Crabtree of IISS on how Southeast Asia is the cockpit of geopolitical competition among China, the US, and India

    Why Chinese—Thanks to Confucius—Don't Want Freedom

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 6, 2022 46:58


    Misha talks with Habi Zhang, of Purdue University, about her contention that Chinese want security, not freedom.  Habi talks about how Confucianism shaped Chinese views of politics.  They also discuss CCP theorist Wang Huning and how the West misunderstood China.

    The Taiwan Crisis: Reaching Critical? A View from Taipei

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 16, 2022 48:49


    A special mid-summer Pacific Century as Misha talks to the Financial Times' Kathrin Hille about the Taiwan crisis, the “new normal” in cross-Strait tension, how China is trying to pressure Taiwan, and if Nancy Pelosi just made war more likely.

    Japan's Power Play in Asia Counters China

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 16, 2022 53:19


    Misha talks to the Wilson Center's Shihoko Goto and the Stimson Center's Yuki Tatsumi about Japan's ambitious new foreign policy, the legacy of the Abe era, current Prime Minister Kishida's agenda, and relations with Biden, Korea's new president, and China, among other topics.

    The World According to India

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 3, 2022 45:46


    Misha talks to AEI senior fellow and WSJ columnist Sad Dhume about Indian foreign policy, New Delhi's support for Russia, what India gets out of the Quad, tensions with China, and ties with America and Japan.

    Joel Kotkin on America's Neo-Feudalism

    Play Episode Listen Later May 27, 2022 52:22


    Misha talks to Joel Kotkin, uber-geographer, about the coming neo-feudalism and “zaibatsuization” of America's economy, how Chinese and American economic models are converging, and how to preserve liberty in an age of oligarchic tech dominance

    Dan Kritenbrink Raps About Asia

    Play Episode Listen Later May 19, 2022 52:08


    Misha talks to Amb. Dan Kritenbrink, Assistant Secretary of State, about new leaders in the Philippines, South Korea, and Australia; as well as about Taiwan and the upcoming Quad meeting.  Finally, they talk about Vietnam and Amb. Kritenbrink's famous Tet rap.

    Bridge Colby Denies China Taiwan

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 27, 2022 56:20


    Misha talks to Bridge Colby, former deputy assistant secretary of defense, about how to prevent China from taking over Taiwan, whether the Biden Administration is maintaining the Trump defense strategy, and why Taiwan is vital to US interests”

    Japan: Ignore It At Your Peril

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 11, 2022 56:31


    Misha talks to The Economist's Tokyo bureau chief, Noah Sneider, about the Japanese successes we miss, why Japan is a ‘harbinger state' on economic, demographics, security, and how it is a frontline state against China.

    South Korea's New President Shifts Right

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 1, 2022 46:42


    Misha talks to Kathleen Stevens, former US ambassador to South Korea, and Stanford's Gi-Wook Shin, about South Korea's presidential election and Seoul's future relations with Washington, Tokyo, and Beijing, as well as with North Korea

    The Final Frontier: Gen. John Raymond, on Space Force

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 25, 2022 57:24


    Misha is joined by his colleague, Jackie Schneider, to talk with General John Raymond, Chief of Space Operations, about the threats to US space assets from China, how the US operates in space, and how space and cyber are connected.

    Tip of the Spear: Gen. Richard Clark, Commander of US Special Operations Command Talks Asia

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 10, 2022 59:48


    Misha talks with General Richard Clark, Commander of US Special Operations Command, about the history of special operations, SOCOM today, and its role in the Indo-Pacific.

    Trapped in Ukraine with Peter Van Praagh

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 2, 2022 55:57


    Misha talks with Peter Van Praagh, president of the Halifax International Security Forum, who was trapped in Kiev when Russia invaded. Peter talks about what he saw, his escape, how the Ukrainians are fighting back, and what the war means for democracy in Europe and Asia.

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    Untangling the Chinese Party-State

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 18, 2022 54:54


    Misha is joined by The Spectator's Cindy Yu as co-host this week, and they talk with Holly Snape of the University of Glasgow.  Holly describes how Xi Jinping's CCP has reasserted control over the Chinese government, and how that influences civil society. She also talks about her time working in the Party's translation department (spoiler: it wasn't a party).

    Spies, Lies, and Abacuses?

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 7, 2022 45:58


    Misha talks with Hoover Institution fellow Amy Zegart about her new book on the history of US intelligence, Spies, Lies, and Algorithms. They discuss the challenge of defending against China's pervasive spying, US counter-intelligence failures against China, and how open source intelligence is changing espionage.

    John Pomfret's Chinese Lessons

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 21, 2022 48:17


    Misha talks with John Pomfret, author of The Beautiful Country and the Middle Kingdom, about living with China since 1980, how Americans misunderstood Beijing's worldview, and where US-China relations go from here.

    What's In Store for Asia in 2022?

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 6, 2022 56:22


    Misha is joined by Amb. Derek Mitchell, of the National Democratic Institute, and Dr. Dan Twining, of the International Republican Institute, to talk about democracy in Asia, the China challenge, and predictions for 2022.

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    Wang Huning: The World‘s Most Dangerous Thinker?

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 13, 2021 52:54


    Misha talks with David Ownby and Matt Johnson, of "Reading the China Dream" on the Chinese Republic of Letters, modern Chinese thinkers, and the influence of Wang Huning, lead ideologist and intellectual of the CCP.

    John Mearsheimer on the Inevitable US-China Rivalry

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 1, 2021 51:08


    Misha talks with Professor John Mearsheimer about the inevitable clash between America and China, and why engagement with China was the biggest strategic blunder in recent history.

    Talking China with the Commandant of the Marines

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 18, 2021 32:34


    Misha talks with General David Berger, Commandant of the US Marines Corps on how the Marines are preparing to face China, working with allies, and what the Corps will look like in the future to maintain its edge in the Pacific.

    Is China Playing Defense?

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 12, 2021 41:21


    Misha and John talk with Columbia professor Andrew Nathan on the domestic drivers of China's foreign policy, Xi Jinping's leadership, Taiwan, human rights, and CCP politics.

    Decoding China's Global Strategy with Bonnie Glaser

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 2, 2021 40:36


    Misha talks with Bonnie Glaser, head of the Asia Program at the German Marshall Fund about how Beijing uses its foreign and security policy to displace the US, weaken Taiwan, and undermine global institutions.

    Alexander Downer Gives the View From Down Under

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 25, 2021 32:11


    Misha and John are joined by Alexander Downer, Australia's longest serving foreign minister and former high commissioner to Great Britain, to discuss Beijing's economic war against Australia, the new AUKUS agreement, how AUKUS differs from the Quad, why Australia has some of the world's most stringent COVID policies, and more.

    From Mao to Now: David Shambaugh on China‘s Leaders

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 15, 2021 55:05


    Misha and John talk with George Washington University's David Shambaugh, about his new book From Mao to Now, a history of each of China's leaders. He ranks them in terms of effectiveness, and also ranks the US presidents who dealt with them.  In between, he talks about the role of the Chinese Communist Party and the Leninist party-state.

    Adrian Wooldridge on the Aristocracy of Talent

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 4, 2021 38:33


    Misha talks with Adrian Wooldridge, political editor of The Economist, about his new book, The Aristocracy of Talent.  They discuss the history of meritocracy in China, and look at how meritocracy works and doesn't work today, in China, Singapore, Japan, and the West. Plus, he names his favorite “meritocracy movie”!

    Japan‘s New Leader and New Role in the Pacific with Senator Bill Hagerty

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 30, 2021 27:36


    Misha talks with Sen. Bill Hagerty (R-TN), former US Ambassador to Japan, about Japan's new leader, the US-Japan alliance, China, Taiwan, whether the US should rejoin the Trans-Pacific Partnership, and what the Biden Administrations needs to do to keep peace in the Pacific.  And, he reveals his favorite Japanese restaurant!

    Around the Horn with Ken Juster

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 3, 2021 34:40


    Misha and John are joined by Kenneth Juster, US ambassador to India from 2017-2021. Juster explains how Scottie Pippen refused to play him in horse after he showed off his basketball skills on the grounds of the US Embassy in New Delhi.  Ken then discusses the effect of the US withdrawal from Afghanistan on India and the region, the foundations for a stronger US-India relationship, and meeting with India's leaders and people.

    Show Us the Money

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 24, 2021 47:28


    Misha and John are joined by Vinnie Aggarwal, professor of political science and senior faculty fellow at the University of California, Berkeley. Vinnie shares his expertise on the US-China rivalry, and the prospects in the Indo-Pacific region in the areas of international trade, finance, and industrial policy.

    Tanner on Taiwan (and China)

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 12, 2021 55:15


    Misha and John are joined by essayist and blogger Tanner Greer of the Scholar's Stage to discuss whether Taiwan can actually defend itself and what Americans get wrong about China.

    Considering Kim's Korea: Kim Jong-un and Biden

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 29, 2021 41:19


    Is Kim Jong-un dying?  Why has he allowed the naming of a deputy?  Will the Biden administration ignore the Korean peninsula?  What role is Xi Jinping playing?  Misha and John are joined by eminent North Korea expert Andrei Lankov, of Seoul's Kookmin University.

    The Business of China, Plus Wuhan Wooziness

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 4, 2021 50:53


    Long-time China investor Dan Rosen joins John and Misha to talk about the prospects for the Chinese economy, the prospects for economic reform, the real threat to China’s economic future, and the question of whether the West was right to invest politically and economically in China. 

    World to China: It’s Not Us, It’s You

    Play Episode Listen Later May 19, 2021 37:07


    Critics of the US say that Washington is forcing a new Cold War with the PRC.  But liberal nations around the world are pushing back on Beijing’s aggressive actions, separately from the US.  From the UK to Japan, Australia, and India, democratic states are deciding that the PRC threatens their interests.  John and Misha talk about what it’s not about (Washington, London, or Tokyo), but about Beijing.

    Beijing Diary

    Play Episode Listen Later May 5, 2021 35:18


    Misha and John are joined by Eunice Yoon, the Beijing bureau chief for CNBC.  They discuss China’s view of Biden and the US, whether the Chinese economy is as strong as touted, Xi Jinping, Belt and Road, and the AI race.  Eunice also talks about how she wound up in Beijing, whether she’s surveilled by the police, and why she’s such a fan of cars.

    Tip of the Spear: The View from Indo-Pacific Command

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 28, 2021 51:40


    Misha and John are joined by Admiral Phil Davidson, Commander of US Indo-Pacific Command, for his last public interview before retiring from the Navy.  Adm. Davidson discusses what it’s like to run the world’s largest military command, the weapons systems he’d like to have, China’s growing challenge, the threat of Chinese and North Korean nuclear weapons, and working with allies.

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