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Beyond the Skyline is a podcast from Finance & Commerce newspaper about economic development, commercial real estate and construction in Minnesota. Above all, it’s a show about what’s next, creativity and the innovation in technology that are changing how we work and shaping the future of business throughout Minnesota.

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    • Jun 20, 2025 LATEST EPISODE
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    • 24m AVG DURATION
    • 281 EPISODES


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    Interview: Devon Dvorak, associate vice president, Colliers

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 20, 2025 17:00


    Devon Dvorak, an associate vice president at Colliers, talks to F&C reporter Dan Netter. Dvorak talks about his first year at Colliers, what the exurban market looks like and gives some advice for people looking to break into the industry.

    Interview: Heidi Addo, vice president, Michel Commercial Real Estate

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 13, 2025 26:09


    Heidi Addo, vice president at Michel Commercial Real Estate, talks to F&C reporter Dan Netter. Addo talk about her career, the commercial real estate market and what it's like to work in the family business.

    Interview: Tina Hoye, retired president, NTH

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 6, 2025 16:48


    Tina Hoye, recently retired president of NTH, talks to F&C reporter Brian Johnson. Hoye talks about her commercial real estate journey, her decision to retire, and efforts to attract more women to the industry, among other topics.

    Interview: Thomas Hertzog, principal, Good Neighbor Homes

    Play Episode Listen Later May 30, 2025 16:21


    Thomas Hertzog, founder and principal of Good Neighbor Homes, talks to F&C reporter Brian Johnson. Hertzog talks about his company's condo project in the Linden Hills neighborhood of Minneapolis and the impacts of tariffs and other macroeconomic forces on the local residential construction market.

    Interview: Maureen Michalski, regional senior vice president of development, Ryan Cos. US Inc.

    Play Episode Listen Later May 23, 2025 20:05


    Maureen Michalski, Ryan Cos. new regional senior vice president of development, talks to F&C reporter Dan Netter. Michalski talks about her career, promotion, tariffs and the recent relaxation of rent control in St. Paul.

    Interview: Audra Williams, general counsel, Kraus-Anderson

    Play Episode Listen Later May 15, 2025 12:57


    Audra Williams, the new general counsel at Kraus-Anderson, talks to F&C reporter Brian Johnson. Williams discusses current construction legal challenges such as tariff-induced price escalation, independent contractor classification changes, and crisis communication policies.

    Interview: Madi Goodrich, principal and director of interior design, DJR

    Play Episode Listen Later May 8, 2025 22:48


    Madi Goodrich, principal and director of interior design at DJR talks to F&C reporter Dan Netter. Goodrich discusses the intersection of interior design and architecture and talks through some of her favorite recent projects.

    Interview: Stephen Todd, owner, The Energy Guy

    Play Episode Listen Later May 2, 2025 28:58


    Stephen Todd, owner of The Energy Guy energy consulting firm, talks to F&C reporter Brian Johnson. Todd shares insights related to energy benchmarking.

    Interview: Dan Collison, senior director, Sherman Associates

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 28, 2025 29:04


    Dan Collison, senior director of business development and public affairs at Sherman Associates talks to F&C reporter Dan Netter. Collison discusses his career before coming to Sherman Associates, his beliefs about human flourishing and his job responsibilities.

    Interview: David Grandstaff, president of Midwest and Southwest, Adolfson & Peterson

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 17, 2025 19:30


    David Grandstaff, president of Midwest and Southwest for Adolfson & Peterson, talks to F&C reporter Brian Johnson. Grandstaff talks about his new role with AP, opportunities and challenges in the construction economy as a whole and more.

    Interview: Luke Grundman, litigation director, Mid-Minnesota Legal Aid

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 11, 2025 30:45


    Luke Grundman, litigation director at Mid-Minnesota Legal Aid, talks to F&C reporter Dan Netter. Grundman talks about Legal Aid's work on fair housing and the current uncertainty surrounding Housing and Urban Development grants.

    Interview: Taylor Boileau, co-founder, The Blueprint for Change

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 4, 2025 18:51


    Taylor Boileau, co-founder of The Blueprint for Change, talks to F&C reporter Brian Johnson about her organization's dedication to making construction jobsites safe, respectful and harassment-free for all workers.

    Interview: Trevor Martinez, Midwest market lead, DevCo

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 28, 2025 16:13


    Trevor Martinez, Midwest market lead for DevCo, talks to F&C reporter Dan Netter. Martinez discusses DevCo, his move back into affordable housing development and talks about his side gig as a teacher.

    Interview: Colette Holt, founder, Colette Holt & Associates

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 21, 2025 27:13


    Colette Holt, founder of Colette Holt & Associates, which provides legal counsel and consulting services, talks to F&C reporter Brian Johnson. Holt discusses the future of DBE programs in Minnesota and how under-represented businesses can protect their interests.

    Interview: Tyler Schipper, associate professor of economics, University of St. Thomas

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 17, 2025 24:14


    Tyler Schipper, an associate professor of economics at the University of St. Thomas, talks to F&C reporter Dan Netter. Schipper talks about the economic impact of tariffs on the construction industry and the broader economy.

    Interview: Jonathan Curry, executive director, ACEC/MN

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 7, 2025 19:14


    Jonathan Curry, executive director of the American Council of Engineering Companies of Minnesota, talks to F&C reporter Brian Johnson. Curry talks about attracting and retaining works as well as inspiring future generations of engineers.

    Interview: Zak Yudhishthu, ‘Penciling Out'

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 28, 2025 21:16


    Zak Yudhishthu, the writer of the ‘Penciling Out' newsletter, talks to F&C reporter Dan Netter about land use and housing policy in the Twin Cities.

    Interview: Gwe Gasco, program coordinator, 8th Fire Solar

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 21, 2025 13:53


    Gwe Gasco, program coordinator at 8th Fire Solar, talks to F&C reporter Brian Johnson. Gasco talks about his company, the marriage of solar thermal and hempcrete on a recent Lower Sioux project and his outlook for energy-friendly projects in 2025.

    Interview: Jon Ruzicka, first vice president, Marcus & Millichap

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 14, 2025 19:14


    Jon Ruzicka, a first vice president at Marcus & Millichap, talks to F&C reporter Dan Netter. Ruzicka talks about how selling hotels is really like selling a business and what advice he has for people looking to switch careers into brokerage.

    Interview: Drew Johnson, senior vice president of development, Oppidan Investment Co.

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 7, 2025 20:19


    Drew Johnson, Oppidan Investment Co.'s senior vice president of development in the Midwest Region, talks to F&C reporter Brian Johnson. Drew Johnson talks about data center development in the Twin Cities and beyond.

    Interview: Lisa Christianson, senior vice president, Colliers

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 3, 2025 16:20


    Lisa Christianson, a senior vice president at Colliers, talks to F&C reporter Dan Netter about the transition from owning her own firm to joining Colliers, what advice she has for people looking to start their own business, and some predictions for where she thinks the market is going in 2025.

    Interview: Nick Erickson, senior director of housing policy, Housing First Minnesota

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 24, 2025 20:55


    Nick Erickson, senior director of housing policy at Housing First Minnesota, talks to F&C reporter Brian Johnson. Erickson talks about Housing First Minnesota's legislative agenda and how he got into the homebuilder advocacy business.

    Interview: State Rep. Esther Agbaje, DFL-Minneapolis

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 14, 2025 16:41


    State Rep. Esther Agbaje talks to F&C reporter Dan Netter about housing policy and the Minnesota Legislature.

    Interview: Tim Worke, CEO, Associated General Contractors of Minnesota

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 10, 2025 25:20


    Tim Worke, CEO of the Associated General Contractors of Minnesota, talks to F&C reporter Brian Johnson. Worke discusses opportunities and challenges in the construction industry and previews the 2025 Minnesota Construction Summit.

    Interview: Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 30, 2024 26:41


    Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey talks to F&C reporter Dan Netter about the mayor's plan for downtown Minneapolis, how it works in tandem with other plans put forward by groups and talks about his favorite Bob Dylan songs.

    Interview: Dan Lindh, retiring CEO, Presbyterian Homes & Services

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 27, 2024 20:10


    Dan Lindh, CEO of Presbyterian Homes & Services, talks to F&C reporter Brian Johnson. Lindh talks about his long career with Presbyterian Homes & Services, the changes he has seen in the senior housing industry, his retirement plans and more.

    Interview: Tina Gassman, president, Greater St. Paul BOMA

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 20, 2024 19:36


    Tina Gassman, president of Greater St. Paul BOMA talks to F&C reporter Dan Netter. Gassman discusses the concerns of building owners in the capital city and breathing life into its downtown.

    Interview: Julie Sjordal, CEO, St. David's Center

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 13, 2024 29:04


    St. David's Center CEO Julie Sjordal talks to F&C reporter Brian Johnson. Sjordal talks about the downtown Minneapolis YWCA acquisition and remodel, how the sale came together and why it was more complicated than a typical real estate transaction.

    Interview: Chris LaTondresse, CEO, Beacon Interfaith Housing Collaborative

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 6, 2024 23:20


    Chris LaTondresse, CEO of Beacon Interfaith Housing Collaborative, talks to F&C reporter Dan Netter. LaTondresse discusses his first year on the job, his aims for the future of Beacon and how he thinks more affordable housing can be built.

    Interview: Julie Sommese, managing director, PACE Equity

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 2, 2024 19:20


    Julie Sommese of PACE Equity talks to F&C reporter Brian Johnson. Sommese discusses the growth of C-PACE lending in Minnesota and some of the projects she has assisted in the Twin Cities and beyond.

    Interview: Rick Martagon, executive director, Building Strong Communities

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 22, 2024 27:07


    Interview: Rick Martagon, executive director, Building Strong Communities by Finance & Commerce

    Interview: Shaun Hainey, Northspan

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 15, 2024 26:37


    Shaun Hainey, the program manager for Northland Connection at Northspan, talks to F&C reporter Dan Netter. Hainey talks about community and business development, his previous career and what he finds compelling about his work.

    Interview: Ann Duginske Cibulka, vice president for real estate development in health care, Ryan Cos.

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 7, 2024 22:20


    Ann Duginske Cibulka, Ryan Company's vice president for real estate development in health care, talks to Finance & Commerce reporter Dan Netter. Duginske Cibulka talks about her work at Ryan, how health care development does and does not obey the whims of the market and highlights why she thinks health care systems might want to start thinking differently about where they provide outpatient services.

    Interview: Michael Grage and Troy Malmstrom, GBBN

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 1, 2024 27:10


    Michael Grage, associate principal, and Troy Malmstrom, associate principal and director of computational design & fabrication, at architecture firm GBBN talk to F&C reporter Brian Johnson. Grage and Malmstrom talk about how their company is using augmented reality to break down communication barriers with clients and end users, among other topics.

    Interview: Lev Buslovich, president, Apadana Energy

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 25, 2024 30:04


    Apadana Energy President Lev Buslovich talks to F&C reporter Brian Johnson. Buslovich talks in depth about Apadana Energy and some of its projects, ranging from electric vehicle charging stations for apartment buildings to a complex solar PV installation on a Minneapolis parking ramp next to Target Field.

    Interview: David Nguyen and Sara Riegle, Minnesota Assistance Council for Veterans

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 17, 2024 23:16


    David Nguyen and Sara Riegle of the Minnesota Assistance Council for Veterans talk to Finance & Commerce reporter Dan Netter about the importance of housing developments, the work of ending veteran homelessness and what cities can do to be more friendly to the much-needed development in their areas.

    Interview: Abdi Warsame, executive director, Minneapolis Public Housing Authority

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 11, 2024 21:03


    Minneapolis Public Housing Authority Executive Director Abdi Warsame talks to F&C reporter Dan Netter. Warsame was recently recognized nationally by the National Association of Housing and Redevelopment Officials as one of its two Outstanding Professionals of the Year.

    Interview: Scott Stallman, president, Dunwoody College of Technology

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 3, 2024 22:07


    Dunwoody College of Technology President Scott Stallman talks to F&C reporter Brian Johnson. Stallman discusses Dunwoody's history and future, efforts to improve diversity in the construction trades, the ongoing need for skilled labor, and other topics.

    Interview: Daniel Suitor, housing attorney, HOME Line

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 26, 2024 21:19


    Home Line housing attorney Daniel Suitor talks to F&C reporter Dan Netter. Suitor discusses how he found himself working in the tenants' rights space, doing policy work and rent payment methods.

    Interview: Doug Jaeger, president and CEO, Ulteig

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 19, 2024 23:47


    Ulteig President and CEO Doug Jaeger talks to F&C reporter Brian Johnson. Jaeger talks about the growing demand for clean energy, the evolution of electric utility systems and efforts to streamline the process for reviewing and approving clean energy projects.

    Interview: Ben Johnson, director, Minneapolis Arts and Cultural Affairs Department

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 13, 2024 25:44


    Ben Johnson, the director of the Minneapolis Arts and Cultural Affairs Department, talks to F&C reporter Dan Netter. Johnson discusses the Arts and Culture Vibrant Store Front Initiative, an idea meant to invest in Minneapolis artists so they can have studio space to work and hold events in.

    Interview: Cecil Smith, president and CEO, Minnesota Multi Housing Association

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 6, 2024 24:01


    Cecil Smith, president and CEO of the Minnesota Multi Housing Association, talks to F&C reporter Brian Johnson. Smith talks about opportunities and challenges in multifamily development and operations.

    Interview: Mikeya Griffin, executive director, Rondo Community Land Trust

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 30, 2024 18:22


    Mikeya Griffin, executive director of the Rondo Community Land Trust, talks to F&C reporter Dan Netter. Griffin talks about the land trust's mission and its relationship with the city of St. Paul.

    Interview: David Wood, founder, Ancoats Construction

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 22, 2024 19:28


    David Wood, founder and president of Ancoats Construction, talks to F&C reporter Brian Johnson. Wood discusses following in his father's footsteps, his reason for starting Ancoats and the labor challenges in the construction sector.

    Interview: Emily Nicoll, managing director, Transwestern

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 16, 2024 15:04


    In this episode, Emily Nicoll, managing director and city leader for Transwestern's Minneapolis office talks to F&C reporter Dan Netter. Nicoll discusses her move to Transwestern, servant leadership and connecting with other women in commercial real estate.

    Interview: Dale Wills, owner and founder, Centra Companies

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 9, 2024 19:46


    In this episode, Centra Companies founder Dale Wills talks to F&C reporter Brian Johnson. Wills talks about his homebuilding journey and his latest venture, Centra Capital Partners.

    Interview: Aarica L. Coleman, CEO, Land Bank Twin Cities

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 1, 2024 22:32


    In this episode, Aarica L. Coleman, new CEO of Land Bank Twin Cities, talks to F&C reporter Dan Netter. Coleman discusses her work and what her hopes are for the Land Bank.

    Interview: Mary Stoick, senior vice president/director of tax credit lending, Sunrise Banks

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 26, 2024 25:30


    In this episode, Mary Stoick, the senior vice president and director of tax credit lending at Sunrise Banks, talks to F&C reporter Brian Johnson. Stoick discusses the rewards and challenges of financing projects like the Coliseum restoration in Minneapolis.

    Interview: Sumair Sheikh, executive director, LISC Duluth

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 19, 2024 18:53


    In this episode, Sumair Sheikh, executive director of LISC Duluth, talks to F&C reporter Dan Netter. Sheikh talks about his work at LISC, how the implementation of the Duluth Housing Trust Fund has worked and gave his thoughts on the recovery of Duluth's downtown.

    Interview: Gloria Wong, owner, Heritage Home Health Care and Lifestyle Adult Day Center

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 11, 2024 34:37


    In this episode, Gloria Wong, owner of Heritage Home Health Care and Lifestyle Adult Day Center, talks to F&C reporter Brian Johnson. Wong shares her story of emigrating to the U.S. as a child and building business success in Minnesota.

    Interview: Laura Dykema, director of planning and development, Minneapolis Public Housing Authority

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 3, 2024 22:26


    In this episode, Laura Dykema, director of planning and development at the Minneapolis Public Housing Authority, talks to F&C reporter Dan Netter. Dykema discusses MPHA programs and what she's learned during her time with the authority.

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