Cultivating Second Chair Leaders

On this episode of “Cultivating Second Chair Leaders,” we hear part 2 of the full conversation of the KINDLE Founders, which took place in February 2025. Rev. Dean Nadasdy, a board member, facilitates a discussion with Bill Karpenko, Linda Olsen, Lyle Heggemeier, Sue Steege, Les Stroh and Steve Arnold where they discuss why they said yes, values of the organization, how KINDLE has changed in 25 years, hopes for the future and more! Go to www.kindleservantleaders.org  and to learn more about the organization and support our work!Share this episode with a friend and leave us a review.Connect with us! Instagram: @emilyphoenix or @kindle_social Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KINDLEServantLeaders If you have a question to ask or story to share about one of this season's topics, we would love to hear from you. Send an email to emily.phoenix@kindleservantsleaders.org and we will share it along the way! Download episode discussion guides at: https://www.kindleservantleaders.org/podcast/

On this episode of “Cultivating Second Chair Leaders,” we hear part 1 of the full conversation of the KINDLE Founders, which took place in February 2025. Rev. Dean Nadasdy, a board member, facilitates a discussion with Bill Karpenko, Linda Olsen, Lyle Heggemeier, Sue Steege, Les Stroh and Steve Arnold where they discuss why they said yes, values of the organization, how KINDLE has changed in 25 years, hopes for the future and more! Go to www.kindleservantleaders.org  and to learn more about the organization and support our work!Share this episode with a friend and leave us a review.Connect with us! Instagram: @emilyphoenix or @kindle_social Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KINDLEServantLeaders If you have a question to ask or story to share about one of this season's topics, we would love to hear from you. Send an email to emily.phoenix@kindleservantsleaders.org and we will share it along the way! Download episode discussion guides at: https://www.kindleservantleaders.org/podcast/

On this episode of “Cultivating Second Chair Leaders,” we chat with 2nd chair ministry leader, Hannah Lang about how she viewed leadership in her early years of ministry and what she has learned since about what it means to be a Christ-like servant leader. We also discuss tools and strategies on building community and preventing burnout in those first few years and the comfort we can find in knowing this is God's church. The Founders' moment from today's episode comes from Lyle Heggemeier, who lives in Des Moines, Iowa with his wife Debbie. In retirement, Lyle served KINDLE faithfully and also works at a local hardware store. Resources mentioned in today's episode:Messiah St. Charles kids podcast: https://normalgoesalongway.com/ The Chosen The Six Types of Working Genius The Hopeful Neighborhood Project KINDLE Strands Practices and OutcomesCheck out Season 2 Episode 2 Discussion Guide for a growth plan template. Go to www.kindleservantleaders.org  and to learn more about the organization and support our work!Share this episode with a friend and leave us a review.Connect with us! Instagram: @emilyphoenix or @kindle_social Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KINDLEServantLeaders If you have a question to ask or story to share about one of this season's topics, we would love to hear from you. Send an email to emily.phoenix@kindleservantsleaders.org and we will share it along the way! Download episode discussion guides at: https://www.kindleservantleaders.org/podcast/

On this episode of “Cultivating Second Chair Leaders,” we take a closer look at the role of a second chair ministry leader through the eyes of a first chair leader.  Our guest, Dean Nadasdy shares how first chair pastors are positively impacted by team ministry with second chair leaders. We also hear from pastors, Jim Haack and Leon Jameson, who share how their own experience in the second chair prepared them for ministry as pastors and in some cases, in the first chair now.  The Founders' moment from today's episode comes from Bill Karpenko. Bill lives in Bloomington, MN with his wife, Michelle, and in retirement continues to faithfully serve KINDLE as part of the board of directors.Resources mentioned in today's episode:A list of books written by Rev. Dr. Dean Nadasdy, found on GoodReadsGo to www.kindleservantleaders.org  and to learn more about the organization and support our work!Share this episode with a friend and leave us a review.Connect with us! Instagram: @emilyphoenix or @kindle_social Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KINDLEServantLeaders If you have a question to ask or story to share about one of this season's topics, we would love to hear from you. Send an email to emily.phoenix@kindleservantsleaders.org and we will share it along the way! Download episode discussion guides at: https://www.kindleservantleaders.org/podcast/

On this episode of “Cultivating Second Chair Leaders,” we listen in on a dialogue between KINDLE Next Callings initiative dean, Paul Wendt and Program and Communications director, Emily Phoenix, as they talk about how baptismal identity and calling are lifelong pursuits and that every individual has a purpose beyond retirement to expand God's Kingdom as a Christ-like servant leader. The Founders' moment from today's episode comes from Steve Arnold. Steve lives in Forest Lake, MN and currently serves as a chaplain.Resources mentioned in today's episode:Learn more about Next Callings and check out the slides in a video format of the Q&A.Go to www.kindleservantleaders.org  and to learn more about the organization and support our work!Share this episode with a friend and leave us a review. Connect with us! Instagram: @emilyphoenix or @kindle_social Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KINDLEServantLeaders If you have a question to ask or story to share about one of this season's topics, we would love to hear from you. Send an email to emily.phoenix@kindleservantsleaders.org and we will share it along the way! Download episode discussion guides at: https://www.kindleservantleaders.org/podcast/

On this episode of “Cultivating Second Chair Leaders,” we get an inside look at how multiplying disciples can play out in a relationship and congregation over several years. We sit down with 2nd chair ministry leaders (and friends) Jason Schleicher and Cameron Heiliger as they discuss their first encounter with KINDLE's Christ-like model of discipleship, what shaped their relationship and ministry, while they served together in a congregation, and how their callings have changed, but their purpose to disciple others, remains the same.The Founders' moment from today's episode comes from Sue Steege. Sue lives in Amherst, New York, and serves as Director of Transformation Ministries at First Trinity Lutheran Church in Tonawanda, NY.Resources mentioned in today's episode:“Good Lord! A Not So Shocking Look at the Goodness of God” by Jason Schleicher“Cultivating the Faith of Students” – KINDLE Resource for use with high schoolers. Go to www.kindleservantleaders.org  and to learn more about the organization and support our work!Share this episode with a friend and leave us a review.Connect with us! Instagram: @emilyphoenix or @kindle_social Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KINDLEServantLeaders If you have a question to ask or story to share about one of this season's topics, we would love to hear from you. Send an email to emily.phoenix@kindleservantsleaders.org and we will share it along the way! Download episode discussion guides at: https://www.kindleservantleaders.org/podcast/

On this episode of “Cultivating Second Chair Leaders,” we take a walk down memory lane, with the first class of KINDLE participants from 2002, We hear how their experience in developing as Christ-like servant leaders has continued to be a foundational part of their lives today. Our guests today include Cindy Twillman, Dave Rueter, Deb Hartje, Jill Hasstedt and Derek Broten. The Founders' moment from today's episode comes from Les Stroh.  Les and his wife, Deborah, are retired and live in Arizona. Les formerly served both on KINDLE's board of directors and as the Executive Director.   Resources mentioned in today's episode:  Learn more about mentioned Christ-like Servant Leaders, Alan Gunderman, Shar Kleinedler, and Linda Olsen who are all KINDLE Living Legacies.  Go to www.kindleservantleaders.org to learn more about the organization and support our work! Share this episode with a friend and leave us a review. Connect with us! Instagram: @emilyphoenix or @kindle_social Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KINDLEServantLeaders If you have a question to ask or story to share about one of this season's topics, we would love to hear from you. Send an email to emily.phoenix@kindleservantsleaders.org and we will share it along the way! Download episode discussion guides at: https://www.kindleservantleaders.org/podcast/

On this episode of “Cultivating Second Chair Leaders,” we will take a closer look at how celebrating baptismal identity through worship has shaped the KINDLE experience and its value when we are serving as Christ like servant leaders in our own settings. Our guest today is Joel Symmank, who has served for many years as KINDLE's chaplain in addition to his primary ministry call, serving in a congregation. The Founders' moments from today's episode come from Steve Arnold and Bill Karpenko. Steve lives in Forest Lake, MN and currently serves as a chaplain. Bill lives in Bloomington, MN with his wife, Michelle, and in retirement continues to faithfully serve KINDLE as part of the board of directors. Resources mentioned in today's episode:Clifton Strengths Assessment Emotionally Healthy Spirituality Day by Day: A 40 Day Journey with the Daily OfficeGo to www.kindleservantleaders.org to learn more about the organization and support our work!Share this episode with a friend and leave us a review. Connect with us! Instagram: @emilyphoenix or @kindle_social Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KINDLEServantLeaders If you have a question to ask or story to share about one of this season's topics, we would love to hear from you. Send an email to emily.phoenix@kindleservantsleaders.org and we will share it along the way! Download episode discussion guides at: https://www.kindleservantleaders.org/podcast/

In Season 5 of ‘Cultivating Second Chair Leaders,' we will celebrate the strengths of Christ-like servant leaders in the 2nd chair as we reflect on how baptismal identity, relationships, and learning in community have positively impacted God's call for us to help expand His kingdom.   As KINDLE celebrates 25 years, we also look back at the events and experiences that have cultivated, encouraged and spurred us, as an organization to take leaps of faith and steps forward to serve a wider audience of Christ-like servant leaders.   When we take the time to celebrate, we give glory to God for all his goodness and faithfulness and can keep are eyes on Him as we move forward into the next chapter of fostering and multiplying Christ-like servant leaders.  This is your time to connect in community, find direction, and find freedom to focus on your identity as a Christ-like servant leader in the second chair. Welcome to “Cultivating Second Chair Leaders” Season 5.Season 5 launches on Tuesday, April 22! We look forward to connecting with you then! Connect with us! Instagram: @emilyphoenix or @kindle_social Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KINDLEServantLeaders If you have a question to ask or story to share about one of this season's topics, we would love to hear from you. Send an email to emily.phoenix@kindleservantsleaders.org and we will share it along the way! Download episode discussion guides at: https://www.kindleservantleaders.org/podcast/

On this episode of “Cultivating Second Chair Leaders,” we take a look back at all of Season 4 episodes, guests and share reflections and learnings from the insight on 2nd chair leadership as well as the Cultivating group practices. Our guest, Katy Crawford (@katycraw11) helps us reflect on various quotes and responds to questions which help all of us to grow as Christ-like servant leaders. Listen until the end and learn how you will have the opportunity to enter to win a free journey guide! Resources mentioned in today's episode: “Life Together, The Classic Exploration of Christian Community” by Dietrich Bonhoeffer, 1954. Lutheran Family Service - https://lutheranfamilyservice.org/Learn more about Christ-like Servant Leader Journey GuidesGo to www.kindleservantleaders.org  and to learn more about the organization and support our work!Share this episode with a friend!  Leave us a review, contact Emily and get your free Christ-like Servant Leader Journey Guide! Connect with us! Instagram: @emilyphoenix or @kindle_social Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KINDLEServantLeaders If you have a question to ask or story to share about one of this season's topics, we would love to hear from you. Send an email to emily@kindleservantsleaders.org and we will share it along the way! Download episode discussion guides at: https://www.kindleservantleaders.org/podcast/

On this episode of “Cultivating Second Chair Leaders,” we look at the practice of Nurture Collaboration which is working together to achieve a group's mission and vision. Today our guest is Rev. Dr. Gerard Bolling, who provides important insight about what it means to be part of a team, the value of relationship between a first and second chair leader, and how his local congregation is working together to engage the community with a microschool. Resources mentioned in today's episode: The Impartial Church Podcast Bethlehem Microschool - CCLS Academy Go to www.kindleservantleaders.org  and to learn more about the organization and support our work!Share this episode with a friend and leave us a review. Connect with us! Instagram: @emilyphoenix or @kindle_social Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KINDLEServantLeaders If you have a question to ask or story to share about one of this season's topics, we would love to hear from you. Send an email to emily@kindleservantsleaders.org and we will share it along the way! Download episode discussion guides at: https://www.kindleservantleaders.org/podcast/

On this episode of “Cultivating Second Chair Leaders,” we look at the practice of Manage Anxiety and Conflict, which is defined as applying Biblical means to both maintain healthy relationships and restore broken ones. Our guest, Brian Amey shares how knowing the sources of conflict can help reduce anxiety and evaluate our priorities when it comes to supporting the bigger picture as a 2nd chair leader. Resources mentioned in today's episode: “Kindling the Heart of the Christ-like Servant Leader” by Susan Steege, 2016.“The Peacemaker” by Ken SandePeacemaker Ministries: https://www.peacemakerministries.org/ Go to www.kindleservantleaders.org  and to learn more about the organization and support our work! Learn more about the Classic KINDLE and Recent Grads initiatives, which begin cycles in Fall 2024. Share this episode with a friend and leave us a review. Connect with us! Instagram: @emilyphoenix or @kindle_social Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KINDLEServantLeaders If you have a question to ask or story to share about one of this season's topics, we would love to hear from you. Send an email to emily@kindleservantsleaders.org and we will share it along the way! Download episode discussion guides at: https://www.kindleservantleaders.org/podcast/

On this episode of “Cultivating Second Chair Leaders,” we look at the practice of Promote Communication. Today's episode is formatted a little differently as we hear a conversation between the leadership staff of First Trinity Lutheran Church (@firsttrinity) in Tonawanda, New York, including Jason Christ (@jasonthedce), Sue Steege (@suesteege) and Chuck Whited. We listen in as they discuss what it means to speak the truth in love, live out healthy communication patterns, and discuss specific tools that help them carry out the mission of their congregation. Resources mentioned in today's episode: “Life Together, The Classic Exploration of Christian Community” by Dietrich Bonhoeffer, 1954. “Kindling the Heart of the Christ-like Servant Leader” by Susan Steege, 2016.Go to www.kindleservantleaders.org  and to learn more about the organization and support our work! Click on ‘Podcast' on the main page to find the discussion guide and Communication Cascade referenced in today's episode. Share this episode with a friend and leave us a review. Connect with us! Instagram: @emilyphoenix or @kindle_social Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KINDLEServantLeaders If you have a question to ask or story to share about one of this season's topics, we would love to hear from you. Send an email to emily@kindleservantsleaders.org and we will share it along the way! Download episode discussion guides at: https://www.kindleservantleaders.org/podcast/

On this episode of “Cultivating Second Chair Leaders,” we look at the practice of  Identify Common Vision: Facilitate groups as they discover their common mission and vision. Our guest, Krista Young (@klyoung29), shares how regardless of cultural context, relationships and trust are the key elements to creating partnerships that move forward with a common vision. Resources mentioned in today's episode: “Life Together, The Classic Exploration of Christian Community” by Dietrich Bonhoeffer, 1954. “Kindling the Heart of the Christ-like Servant Leader” by Susan Steege, 2016.“When Helping Hurts: How to Alleviate Poverty Without Hurting the Poor . . . and Yourself” by Steve Corbett and Brian Fikkert, 2014“Toxic Charity, How Churches and Charities Hurt Those They Help, And How to Reverse It”  by Robert D. Lupton, 2012Go to www.kindleservantleaders.org  and to learn more about the organization and support our work!Share this episode with a friend and leave us a review on Apple Podcasts. Connect with us! Instagram: @emilyphoenix or @kindle_social Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KINDLEServantLeaders If you have a question to ask or story to share about one of this season's topics, we would love to hear from you. Send an email to emily@kindleservantsleaders.org and we will share it along the way! Download episode discussion guides at: https://www.kindleservantleaders.org/podcast/

On this episode of Cultivating Second Chair Leaders we will discuss the importance of grounding our identity as God's Child as the baseline for establishing Christian community. Our guest, Mary Stafford-Nunez (@marbearo528) shares the joys and challenges of what genuine community engagement looks like in both her local and international ministry contexts. Resources mentioned in today's episode: Leading from the Second Chair Serving Your Church, Fulfilling Your Role, and Realizing Your Dreams, by Mike Bonem and Roger Patterson, 2005. Kindling the Heart of the Christ-like Servant Leader by Susan Steege, 2016.The Chosen SeriesGo to www.kindleservantleaders.org  and to learn more about the organization and support our work!Share this episode with a friend and leave us a review. Connect with us! Instagram: @emilyphoenix or @kindle_social Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KINDLEServantLeaders If you have a question to ask or story to share about one of this season's topics, we would love to hear from you. Send an email to emily@kindleservantsleaders.org and we will share it along the way! Download episode discussion guides at: https://www.kindleservantleaders.org/podcast/

Welcome to Cultivating Second Chair Leaders: Conversations about living out servant leadership in the second chair! In Season 4, we will explore Spirit-led practices that unite people for service to Christ and the world. When we invest in building the community, identifying common vision, promoting communication, managing anxiety and conflict and nurturing collaboration, we flourish in Christian community as God intended.  This is your time to connect in community, find direction, and find freedom to focus on your identity as a Christ-like servant leader in the second chair. Karpenko Institute for Nurturing and Developing Leadership Excellence (KINDLE) provides a model for living out Christ-like servant leadership. For the 2nd chair leader, there is significant value in the ability to lead up, down and across in the building and nurturing of relationships. This podcast is made possible by KINDLE, an incarnational ministry that encourages, prepares, and supports a growing number of God's people as they live out their baptismal calling to be Christ-like servant leaders in their congregations, homes, workplaces, communities, and the world. To learn more about the organization and support our work go to kindleservantleaders.org. Connect with us! Instagram: @emilyphoenix or @kindle_social Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KINDLEServantLeaders If you have a question to ask or story to share about one of this season's topics, we would love to hear from you. Send an email to emily@kindleservantsleaders.org and we will share it along the way! Download episode discussion guides at: https://www.kindleservantleaders.org/podcast/

On this episode of “Cultivating Second Chair Leaders", we will share a Cultivating Faith and Health impact stories from members of our community, as they have spent the last few years diving deeper into these practices and their application in their lives and in their ministry settings! Connect with us! Instagram: @emilyphoenix or @kindle_social Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KINDLEServantLeaders If you have a question to ask or story to share about one of this season's topics, we would love to hear from you. Send an email to emily@kindleservantsleaders.org and we will share it along the way! Download episode discussion guides at: https://www.kindleservantleaders.org/podcast/

On this bonus episode of Cultivating Second Chair Leaders we listen to a webinar from March 2023,  “A Foot in Two Places: Engaging and Equipping the Coming Army of Volunteers.” This presentation provides the opportunity to rediscover your baptismal calling and help others to do the same in the next season of life. You will learn the importance of spending intentional time to reorder priorities; consider God's purpose for the years ahead, and serve your congregations, homes, and communities! Jill Hasstedt, KINDLE community member, leads this conversation. Resources mentioned in today's episode: A Foot in Two Places Webinar HandoutLearn more about KINDLE Next CallingsWant to view this webinar? Go to our website to request it. Go to www.kindleservantleaders.org  and to learn more about the organization and support our work!Share this episode with a friend and leave us a review. Connect with us! Instagram: @emilyphoenix or @kindle_social Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KINDLEServantLeaders If you have a question to ask or story to share about one of this season's topics, we would love to hear from you. Send an email to emily@kindleservantsleaders.org and we will share it along the way! Download episode discussion guides at: https://www.kindleservantleaders.org/podcast/

On this episode of “Cultivating Second Chair Leaders", we will share a handful of Cultivating Individual impact stories from members of our community, as they have spent the last few years diving deeper into these practices and their application in their lives and in their ministry settings! Resources mentioned in today's episode: Go to www.kindleservantleaders.org  and to learn more about the organization and support our work!Connect: Share this episode with a friend and leave us a review. Connect with us! Instagram: @emilyphoenix or @kindle_social Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KINDLEServantLeaders If you have a question to ask or story to share about one of this season's topics, we would love to hear from you. Send an email to emily@kindleservantsleaders.org and we will share it along the way! Download episode discussion guides at: https://www.kindleservantleaders.org/podcast/

On this episode of “Cultivating Second Chair Leaders,” we look at the practice of Encourage One Another, which includes the importance of positive recognition, celebrating the accomplishments of others and appreciating the impact of the practice itself. With guest Sara Wilson (@familyfaithrhythms), we will explore this topic from the perspective of a Christ-like servant leader in the home, especially in helping our children develop relationships with Jesus and encourage them to be leaders too. Resources mentioned in today's episode: Quotes from the book, “The 360 Leader: Developing Your Influence from Anywhere in the Organization'' by John Maxwell, 2005, 2011. Visual Faith® Ministry - Blog, Practices, Events, Shoppe (free resources)!Kindling the Heart: Nurturing Young Christ-like Servant Leaders, Family Edition, 2020. Learn more about Thrivent Action TeamsGo to www.kindleservantleaders.org  and to learn more about the organization and support our work!Connect: Instagram: @emilyphoenix or @kindle_social Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KINDLEServantLeaders Email: emily@kindleservantleaders.org and we may share your story in the future! Share this episode with a friend and leave us a review. Connect with us! Instagram: @emilyphoenix or @kindle_social Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KINDLEServantLeaders If you have a question to ask or story to share about one of this season's topics, we would love to hear from you. Send an email to emily@kindleservantsleaders.org and we will share it along the way! Download episode discussion guides at: https://www.kindleservantleaders.org/podcast/

On this episode of “Cultivating Second Chair Leaders", we talk about the value of cultivating high school students as individuals and challenging them to develop Christ-like servant leadership skills. Our guest, Tyler Tollefson (@ttollefson) shares about the importance of growing in our ability to communicate and have critical conversations, a skill set important to teach to younger generations as well. Resources mentioned in today's episode: Quotes from the book, “The 360 Leader: Developing Your Influence from Anywhere in the Organization'' by John Maxwell, 2005, 2011. “How to Lead When You're Not in Charge: Leveraging Influence When You Lack Authority” by Clay Scroggins Go to www.kindleservantleaders.org  and to learn more about the organization and support our work!Connect: Instagram: @emilyphoenix or @kindle_social Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KINDLEServantLeaders Email: emily@kindleservantleaders.org and we may share your story in the future! Share this episode with a friend and leave us a review. Connect with us! Instagram: @emilyphoenix or @kindle_social Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KINDLEServantLeaders If you have a question to ask or story to share about one of this season's topics, we would love to hear from you. Send an email to emily@kindleservantsleaders.org and we will share it along the way! Download episode discussion guides at: https://www.kindleservantleaders.org/podcast/

On this episode of “Cultivating Second Chair Leaders",  we explore the practice of Equip to multiply, which includes several intentional actions that lead to the development of well rounded Christ-like servant leaders. Today we will dive deeper into the coaching skill and why it's such a valuable tool in leadership development. KINDLE's Executive Director, Michelle Pavasars (@mpavasars) returns and has invited her friend and coaching connection, Cindy Scott (@bridgescoaching) to share her wisdom in this realm of leadership development. Resources mentioned in today's episode: Quotes from the book, “The 360 Leader: Developing Your Influence from Anywhere in the Organization'' by John Maxwell, 2005, 2011. Bridges Coaching: https://www.bridgescoaching.net/ Go to www.kindleservantleaders.org  and to learn more about the organization and support our work!Share this episode with a friend and leave us a review! Connect with us! Instagram: @emilyphoenix or @kindle_social Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KINDLEServantLeaders If you have a question to ask or story to share about one of this season's topics, we would love to hear from you. Send an email to emily@kindleservantsleaders.org and we will share it along the way! Download episode discussion guides at: https://www.kindleservantleaders.org/podcast/

On this episode of “Cultivating Second Chair Leaders", we explore what it means to go from "me" to"we" as leaders voice the vision, especially as it relates to the development of Jesus' followers as servant leaders.  Our guest, Peter Couser (@petercouser) shares his perspective serving both as a 2nd chair and now a 1st chair pastor and the challenges of voicing a vision for a mission plant (@newthing.live) in the middle of a pandemic. Resources mentioned in today's episode: Quotes from the book, “The 360 Leader: Developing Your Influence from Anywhere in the Organization'' by John Maxwell, 2005, 2011. “Leading When God is Moving” by Wayne Schmidt “Canoeing the Mountains” by Tod Bolsinger “The Practice of the Presence of God” by Brother Lawrence Go to www.kindleservantleaders.org  and to learn more about the organization and support our work!Share this episode with a friend and leave us a review. Connect with us! Instagram: @emilyphoenix or @kindle_social Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KINDLEServantLeaders If you have a question to ask or story to share about one of this season's topics, we would love to hear from you. Send an email to emily@kindleservantsleaders.org and we will share it along the way! Download episode discussion guides at: https://www.kindleservantleaders.org/podcast/

On this episode of “Cultivating Second Chair Leaders," we talk about what it truly means to set the example as a Christ-like servant leader, valuing the time to cultivate relationships. We discuss what it looks like to “Lead in a calm and reflective manner, acting with integrity and staying connected with others.”  Our guests Brian (@theaveragedisciple) & Victoria Weaver (@theaverage_mama) share insight on setting the example in marriage, as parents, and as leaders in their congregation.  Resources mentioned in today's episode: Quotes from the book, “The 360 Leader: Developing Your Influence from Anywhere in the Organization'' by John Maxwell, 2005, 2011. Learn more about the DISC assessment Check out Brian & Victoria's podcast and resources at: The Average Disciple Go to www.kindleservantleaders.org  and to learn more about the organization and support our work!Connect with us! Instagram: @emilyphoenix or @kindle_social Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KINDLEServantLeaders If you have a question to ask or story to share about one of this season's topics, we would love to hear from you. Send an email to emily@kindleservantsleaders.org and we will share it along the way! Download episode discussion guides at: https://www.kindleservantleaders.org/podcast/

On this first episode of “Cultivating Second Chair Leaders, season 3, we introduce the overall theme of leadership, starting with the example Jesus set during his earthly life for how to be a servant leader. We will explore what building and nurturing relationships looks like for the Christ-like servant leader in the second chair with our guest, Lisa Hellyer (@hellyer_lisa)  as she shares insight from her personal and professional experiences. Resources mentioned in today's episode: Quotes from the book, “The Leader 360: Developing Your Influence from Anywhere in the Organization'' by John Maxwell, 2005, 2011. Crucial Conversations: Tools for Talking When Stakes Are High by Joseph Grenny Lutheran Hour Ministries Mission - https://www.lhm.org/about/ Go to www.kindleservantleaders.org  and to learn more about the organization and support our work!Share this episode with a friend and leave us a review. Connect with us! Instagram: @emilyphoenix or @kindle_social Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KINDLEServantLeaders If you have a question to ask or story to share about one of this season's topics, we would love to hear from you. Send an email to emily@kindleservantsleaders.org and we will share it along the way!

Welcome to Cultivating Second Chair Leaders: Conversations about living out servant leadership in the second chair! In Season 3 of ‘Cultivating Second Chair Leaders,' we will explore the importance of investing in the processes of developing and equipping fellow Christ-like servant leaders including active listening, equipping and conversation along the way.  This is your time to connect in community, find direction, and find freedom to focus on your identity as a Christ-like servant leader in the second chair. Karpenko Institute for Nurturing and Developing Leadership Excellence (KINDLE) provides a model for living out Christ-like servant leadership. For the 2nd chair leader, there is significant value in the ability to lead up, down and across in the building and nurturing of relationships.  This podcast is made possible by KINDLE, an incarnational ministry that encourages, prepares, and supports a growing number of God's people as they live out their baptismal calling to be Christ-like servant leaders in their congregations, homes, workplaces, communities, and the world. To learn more about the organization and support our work go to kindleservantleaders.org. Connect with us! Instagram: @emilyphoenix or @kindle_social Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KINDLEServantLeaders If you have a question to ask or story to share about one of this season's topics, we would love to hear from you. Send an email to emily@kindleservantsleaders.org and we will share it along the way!

On this episode of Cultivating Second Chair Leaders, we have a bonus conversation with season 2 guest Heidi Goehmann about her new book, "Emotions and the Gospel," and how we can use processing tools for our emotions and enhance our ability to serve as Christ-like servant leaders in the second chair. Resources mentioned in today's episode: Order Heidi's newest book: “Emotions and the Gospel Created for Connection” Check out helpful articles, blog posts and podcast episodes created by our guest at  www.heidigoehmann.com.   Go to www.kindleservantleaders.org  to learn more about the organization, and support our work!Connect: Instagram: @emilyphoenix or @kindle_social Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KINDLEServantLeaders Email: emily@kindleservantleaders.org and we may share your story in the future! Share this episode with a friend and leave us a review. 

On this episode of Cultivating Second Chair Leaders, we will recap season 2 of the podcast, using episode discussion guides, which highlight quotes and questions on the topics of Cultivating Health. Joining our host, Emily Phoenix, who will take a turn in the guest chair are Season 1 guest, Daniel Baker (@bakerthrive) and listener Angela Erickson (@Squidget1248), two members of our KINDLE community! Resources mentioned in today's episode: Quote about Second Chair Leaders “Leading from the Second Chair Serving Your Church, Fulfilling Your Role, and Realizing Your Dreams '' by Mike Bonem and Roger Patterson, 2005. The Impartial Church podcast via Lutheran Hour Ministries‘The Color of Compromise' and ‘How to Fight Racism' by Jemar Tisby Learn about our Classic KINDLE training program Go to www.kindleservantleaders.org  to learn more about the organization, download an episode discussion guide and support our work!Connect: Instagram: @emilyphoenix or @kindle_social Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KINDLEServantLeaders Email: emily@kindleservantleaders.org and we may share your story in the future! Share this episode with a friend and leave us a review. 

On this episode of Cultivating Second Chair Leaders we will take a look at the big picture and overall impact of Cultivating Health as we pursue spirit filled practices as Christ like servant leaders. We will dig into the question: What does it mean to lead an abundant, integrated life as a second chair leader? Our guest, Jim Bradshaw, also a KINDLE board member, provides insight and wisdom on well being, from his years of experience in Kansas, serving second chair leaders in a variety of ways. Resources mentioned in today's episode: Quote about Second Chair Leaders “Leading from the Second Chair Serving Your Church, Fulfilling Your Role, and Realizing Your Dreams '' by Mike Bonem and Roger Patterson, 2005. Ordering Your Private World, by Gordon MacDonaldEmotionally Healthy Discipleship - Pete ScazzeroKansas District, LCMS, Church Worker Wellness (and many addt. resources) Concordia Plans (health insurance provider)Church Worker Self Assessment created by SED LCMSGo to KINDLE's website to meet our board, learn more about the organization, including our programs and download an episode discussion guide! Connect: Instagram: @emilyphoenix or @kindle_social Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KINDLEServantLeaders Email: emily@kindleservantleaders.org and we may share your story in the future! Share this episode with a friend and leave us a review. 

On this episode of Cultivating Second Chair Leaders, we discuss the importance of staying connected as it enhances our relationships and social health. "Finding Hope", a book, written by guest, Heidi Goehmann (@heidigoehmann), enhances our conversation as we better understand the dynamics and value of an authentic Christian community. Resources mentioned in today's episode: Quote about Second Chair Leaders “Leading from the Second Chair Serving Your Church, Fulfilling Your Role, and Realizing Your Dreams '' by Mike Bonem and Roger Patterson, 2005. “No Cure For Being Human” by Kate Bowler“Finding Hope” by Heidi Goehmann and other resources mentioned by our guest found at www.heidigoehmann.com   Pre-order Heidi's newest book: “Emotions and the Gospel Created for Connection” (we will discuss it in a bonus episode in October!)Go to www.kindleservantleaders.org  to learn more about the organization, download an episode discussion guide and support our work!Connect: Instagram: @emilyphoenix or @kindle_social Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KINDLEServantLeaders Email: emily@kindleservantleaders.org and we may share your story in the future! Share this episode with a friend and leave us a review. 

On this episode of Cultivating Second Chair Leaders we talk about pursuing behaviors which promote optimal use of God-given financial resources. With the help of guest Sarah Olson (@sarah_a_olson), we frame our conversation around defining generous giving and living and how each generation provides an important perspective that shapes how we serve God with our resources. Resources mentioned in today's episode: Quote about Second Chair Leaders “Leading from the Second Chair Serving Your Church, Fulfilling Your Role, and Realizing Your Dreams '' by Mike Bonem and Roger Patterson, 2005. Reference to leading up and down from The 360° Leader by John C. Maxwell IU School of Philanthropy: ​​https://philanthropy.iupui.edu/ 2021 Fidelity Research: https://www.fidelitycharitable.org/insights/2021-future-of-philanthropy.htmlGo to www.kindleservantleaders.org  to learn more about the organization, download an episode discussion guide and support our work!Connect: Instagram: @emilyphoenix or @kindle_social Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KINDLEServantLeaders Email: emily@kindleservantleaders.org and we may share your story in the future! Share this episode with a friend and leave us a review. 

On this episode of Cultivating Second Chair Leaders We discuss the importance of keeping our mind sharp with opportunities for continuing education, not just in an academic setting, but growing in wisdom as it shapes us to be more Christ-like as servant leaders in the second chair. Our guest, Kyle Blake (@khblake), also shares about his unique roles and experience as both a 1st and 2nd chair leader. Resources mentioned in today's episode: Quote about Second Chair Leaders “Leading from the Second Chair Serving Your Church, Fulfilling Your Role, and Realizing Your Dreams '' by Mike Bonem and Roger Patterson, 2005. Nonviolent Communication by Marshall B. Rosenberg: https://www.amazon.com/Nonviolent-Communication-Language-Life-Changing-Relationships/dp/189200528X Emotionally Health book series by Pete Scazzero: https://www.christianbook.com/page/christian-living/emotionally-healthy Go to www.kindleservantleaders.org/podcast to learn more about the organization, download an episode discussion guide (including the ARK Team Communication model referenced in the episode) and support our work!Connect: Instagram: @emilyphoenix or @kindle_social Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KINDLEServantLeaders Email: emily@kindleservantleaders.org and we may share your story in the future! Share this episode with a friend and leave us a review. 

On this episode of Cultivating Second Chair Leaders we discuss the pursuit of wellness and how taking care of our physical health has an impact on our leadership abilities. We talk with guest Jean Kempe (@taibeck) on how positive outcomes can influence a balanced lifestyle as a second chair leader. We will also talk about a resource KINDLE provides, called a growth plan, which is  available to download and use or share with a friend! Resources mentioned in today's episode: Quote about Second Chair Leaders “Leading from the Second Chair Serving Your Church, Fulfilling Your Role, and Realizing Your Dreams '' by Mike Bonem and Roger Patterson, 2005. The Five Love Languages by Gary Chapman: https://5lovelanguages.com/store Go to www.kindleservantleaders.org  to learn more about the organization, download a growth plan and episode discussion guide and support our work!Connect: Instagram: @emilyphoenix or @kindle_social Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KINDLEServantLeaders Email: emily@kindleservantleaders.org and we may share your story in the future! Share this episode with a friend and leave us a review. 

On this first episode of season 2 of Cultivating Second Chair Leaders we will talk with guest, Sue Steege (@susansteege) on how to engage to Recognize God's Call in our lives and how that impacts our emotional health as second chair leaders. We will also highlight KINDLE devotionals, authored by Sue, which are great for personal and professional use! Resources mentioned in today's episode: Quote about Second Chair Leaders “Leading from the Second Chair Serving Your Church, Fulfilling Your Role, and Realizing Your Dreams '' by Mike Bonem and Roger Patterson, 2005. Kindling the Heart Devotional http://www.kindleservantleaders.org/resources/kindling-the-heart-of-the-christ-like-servant-leader/ (links to Amazon for purchase) Kindling the Heart: Family Edition http://www.kindleservantleaders.org/resources/kindling-the-heart-family-edition/ (links to Amazon for purchase) Hero Maker by Dave Ferguson & Warren Bird http://www.heromakerbook.org/ Go to www.kindleservantleaders.org  and to learn more about the organization and support our work!Connect: Instagram: @emilyphoenix or @kindle_social Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KINDLEServantLeaders Email: emily@kindleservantleaders.org and we may share your story in the future! Share this episode with a friend and leave us a review. 

Welcome to Cultivating Second Chair Leaders: Conversations about living out servant leadership in the second chair! In Season 2 of ‘Cultivating Second Chair Leaders,' we will take a closer look at the importance of addressing specific leadership challenges through the lens of our emotional, physical, intellectual, financial and social health.If you have a question to ask or story to share about one of this season's topics, we would love to hear from you. Send an email to emily@kindleservantsleaders.org and we will include it in the final episode of the season! This is your time to connect in community, find direction, and find freedom to focus on your identity as a Christ-like servant leader in the second chair. Karpenko Institute for Nurturing and Developing Leadership Excellence (KINDLE) provides a model for living out Christ-like servant leadership. Throughout this season of the podcast we will focus on how we cultivate our faith through Christ-like practices including Sabbath living, Scripture, prayer, witness and service to others. This podcast is made possible by KINDLE, an incarnational ministry that encourages, prepares, and supports a growing number of God's people as they live out their baptismal calling to be Christ-like servant leaders in their congregations, homes, workplaces, communities, and the world. To learn more about the organization and support our work go to kindleservantleaders.org. 

On this bonus episode of “Cultivating Second Chair Leaders," we take a closer look at leader identity, first from the perspective of the world, and then where we need to begin, with Jesus. Michael Harvey joins us to answer the question:, “Am I a second chair leader?” as we unpack what it means to be a leader when you aren't at the top, and the value it adds as you serve in your home, church, community and the world.  Resources mentioned in today's episode: Servant Leadership Quote by Robert Greenleaf: https://www.greenleaf.org/what-is-servant-leadership/ Definition of Second Chair leader comes from the book, “Leading from the Second Chair Serving Your Church, Fulfilling Your Role, and Realizing Your Dreams '' by Mike Bonem and Roger Patterson, 2005. Go to www.kindleservantleaders.org/podcast  to learn more about the organization, download an episode discussion guide and support our work!Connect: Instagram: @emilyphoenix or @kindle_social Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KINDLEServantLeaders Email: emily@kindleservantleaders.org and we may share your story in the future! Share this episode with a friend and leave us a review. 

On this bonus episode of “Cultivating Second Chair Leaders” we talk with Cheri Selander, a 2nd chair leader in a church ministry setting, who has been trained through and coached others with KINDLE. We talk about a tool called a 'Christ-like Servant Leader Journey Guide' and she shares how she uses this resource  to helps others learn Cultivating Faith practices. Resources mentioned in today's episode: Definition of Second Chair leader comes from the book, “Leading from the Second Chair Serving Your Church, Fulfilling Your Role, and Realizing Your Dreams '' by Mike Bonem and Roger Patterson, 2005. Christ-like Servant Leader Journey Guides: ​​http://www.kindleservantleaders.org/resources/christ-like-servant-leader-journey-guides/ Kindling the Heart Devotional: http://www.kindleservantleaders.org/resources/kindling-the-heart-of-the-christ-like-servant-leader/ NADCE: www.nadce.wildapricot.org Go to www.kindleservantleaders.org  and to learn more about the organization and support our work!Connect: Instagram: @emilyphoenix or @kindle_social Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KINDLEServantLeaders Email: emily@kindleservantleaders.org and we may share your story in the future!Share this episode with a friend and leave us a review. 

On this episode of Cultivating Second Chair Leaders, we discuss highlights from this first season of the podcast with guest Audrey Duensing-Werner (@dceaudrey).  Audrey also shares some encouragement from her own personal experience of living out Cultivating Faith practices in her own life. You will also hear part two of an interview with Dr. Bill Karpenko (@billkarpenko) as he shares application of Christ-like practices in his life, along with several resources for continued growth. Resources mentioned in today's episode: Vantage Point by Brenda Jank: https://runhardrestwell.org/resource/vantage-point-book/ A Rest That Works Series: https://runhardrestwell.org/video-series/ Download KINDLE's Strands and Practices: http://www.kindleservantleaders.org/resources/strands-practices-outcomes-and-grace-filled-marks/ New Morning Mercies by Paul David TrippReliving the Passion by Walter Wangerin Jr. A Praying Life by Paul Miller Epic by John Eldredge The Circle Maker by Mark Batterson The Deeply Formed Life, by Rich VallodasAnxious for Nothing by Max Lucado    National Association of Directors of Christian Education (NADCE) - https://nadce.wildapricot.org/  Go to www.kindleservantleaders.org  and to learn more about the organization and support our work!Connect: Instagram: @emilyphoenix or @kindle_social Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KINDLEServantLeaders Email: emily@kindleservantleaders.org and we may share your story in the future! Share this episode with a friend and leave us a review. Share feedback about Season 1!

On this episode of Cultivating Second Chair Leaders we will discuss what ‘Serve Others' looks like specifically for Megan Mantey (@megan_mantey) as a long term missionary along with her husband, in Uganda. We discuss the relevance of context, culture and community in how we serve.  Also on the show, we will highlight LCMS International Mission (@lcmsinternationalmission) and talk with Anne Gonzalez (@dceanne) about how you can learn more and serve in physical and digital ways! Resources mentioned in today's episode: Definition of Second Chair leader comes from the book, “Leading from the Second Chair Serving Your Church, Fulfilling Your Role, and Realizing Your Dreams '' by Mike Bonem and Roger Patterson, 2005. Learn more about Megan & Mark Mantey's work in Uganda: https://www.lcms.org/mantey Ambassadors of Reconciliation: https://www.aorhope.org/ LCMS International Mission Info & Serving: https://international.lcms.org/   https://servenow.lcms.org/ Go to www.kindleservantleaders.org  and to learn more about the organization and support our work!Connect: Instagram: @emilyphoenix or @kindle_social Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KINDLEServantLeaders Email: emily@kindleservantleaders.org and we may share your story in the future! Share this episode with a friend and leave us a review. 

On this episode of Cultivating Second Chair Leaders we will discuss the topic of Witness WIllingly  with Tina Jasion (@tinajasion), who came to know God and join the church in her adult life. We will discuss how her life experiences have shaped the way she follows Jesus. Also on the show, we will highlight Faithful Innovation Coaching (@faithfulinnovation), an organization founded by our guest, Tina (tina@faithfulinnovation.com).  Resources mentioned in today's episode: Definition of Second Chair leader comes from the book, “Leading from the Second Chair Serving Your Church, Fulfilling Your Role, and Realizing Your Dreams '' by Mike Bonem and Roger Patterson, 2005. LWML Pledge: https://www.lwml.org/the-league-pledge-and-songs Faith & Work Enterprises: https://faithandworkenterprises.org/Faithful Innovation: https://faithfulinnovation.com/ Auxano: https://www.willmancini.com/auxano-ministry-consulting-firm Go to www.kindleservantleaders.org  and to learn more about the organization and support our work!Connect: Instagram: @emilyphoenix or @kindle_social Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KINDLEServantLeaders Email: emily@kindleservantleaders.org and we may share your story in the future! Share this episode with a friend and leave us a review. 

On this episode of Cultivating Second Chair Leaders we will discuss the topic ‘Pray Unceasingly' and how Daniel Baker's (@bakerthrive) prayer rhythms changed in a challenging season of life. We will also highlight Lutherhaven Ministries (@lutherhaven) located in Idaho, a mission closely connected to shaping Daniel as a Christ-like servant leader. Resources mentioned in today's episode: Definition of Second Chair leader comes from the book, “Leading from the Second Chair Serving Your Church, Fulfilling Your Role, and Realizing Your Dreams '' by Mike Bonem and Roger Patterson, 2005. Harrison Assessment https://www.harrisonassessments.com/leadership-development-assessments.html Lutherhaven Idaho Servant Adventures https://www.lutherhaven.com/idaho-servant-adventures/The National Lutheran Outdoors Ministry Association (@nlomacamps) https://nloma.org/ (to find a Lutheran camp ministry in your area) Go to www.kindleservantleaders.org  and to learn more about the organization and support our work!Connect: Instagram: @emilyphoenix or @kindle_social Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KINDLEServantLeaders Email: emily@kindleservantleaders.org and we may share your story in the future! Share this episode with a friend and leave us a review. 

On this episode of Cultivating Second Chair Leaders we will discuss the topic of Learn and Live Scripture and what that looks like for Jennifer Hills (@jenhills), a ministry professional who started a missional community in her neighborhood. She learned about this concept from our second guest, Greg Finke (@gregfinke), the author of “Joining Jesus on His Mission” and founder of Dwelling 114 (@dwelling114).  Resources mentioned in today's episode: www.bibleproject.com www.dwelling114.org Definition of Second Chair leader comes from the book, “Leading from the Second Chair Serving Your Church, Fulfilling Your Role, and Realizing Your Dreams '' by Mike Bonem and Roger Patterson, 2005. Go to www.kindleservantleaders.org  and to learn more about the organization and support our work!Connect: Instagram: @emilyphoenix or @kindle_social Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KINDLEServantLeaders Email: emily@kindleservantleaders.org and we may share your story in the future! Share this episode with a friend and leave us a review. 

On this episode of Cultivating Second Chair Leaders we will discuss the topic of Embrace Sabbath Living and what that looks like for Rebekah Freed (@bekahfreed) in her daily rhythms as she currently serves in campus ministry. We will also highlight Run Hard, Rest Well (@runhardrestwell), an organization founded by Brenda Jank (brenda@runhardrestwell.org), which promotes Sabbath rest for teams and groups of all types and ages. Resources mentioned in today's episode: Definition of Second Chair leader comes from the book, “Leading from the Second Chair Serving Your Church, Fulfilling Your Role, and Realizing Your Dreams '' by Mike Bonem and Roger Patterson, 2005. The Rest of God by Mark BuchananKeeping the Sabbath Wholly by Marva DawnRun Hard Rest Well -https://runhardrestwell.org/resources/ Camp Lutherhaven Personal Retreat Ministry - https://lutherhaven.org/program/retreats/personal/ Go to www.kindleservantleaders.org  and to learn more about the organization and support our work!Connect: Instagram: @emilyphoenix or @kindle_social Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KINDLEServantLeaders Email: emily@kindleservantleaders.org and we may share your story in the future! Share this episode with a friend and leave us a review. 

On this episode of Cultivating Second Chair Leaders we will learn about the term “second chair leader” as we converse with KINDLE founding member, Bill Karpenko (@billkarpenko). This podcast plans to highlight organizations that support living out servant leadership in the second chair and in this first episode we start with KINDLE as we talk to executive director, Michelle Pavasars (@mpavasars; michelle@kindleservantleaders.org). Resources mentioned in today's episode: Lutheran Educators Association - www.lea.orgWeRaise (formerly Wheatridge Ministries) https://weraise.org/wheatridge/ Thrivent - www.thrivent.com National Association of Directors of Christian Education (NADCE) - https://nadce.wildapricot.org/ Definition of Second Chair leader comes from the book, “Leading from the Second Chair Serving Your Church, Fulfilling Your Role, and Realizing Your Dreams '' by Mike Bonem and Roger Patterson, 2005. Go to www.kindleservantleaders.org  and to learn more about the organization and support our work! Go to the Resources page to find links to the Servant Leader Journey Guides and Devotionals. Connect: Instagram: @emilyphoenix or @kindle_social Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KINDLEServantLeaders Email: emily@kindleservantleaders.org and we may share your story in the future! Share this episode with a friend and leave us a review.

Welcome to Cultivating Second Chair Leaders: Conversations about living out servant leadership in the second chairThis is your time to connect in community, find direction, and find freedom to focus on your identity as a Christ-like servant leader in the second chair. Karpenko Institute for Nurturing and Developing Leadership Excellence (KINDLE) provides a model for living out Christ-like servant leadership. Throughout this season of the podcast we will focus on how we cultivate our faith through Christ-like practices including Sabbath living, Scripture, prayer, witness and service to others. This podcast is made possible by KINDLE, an incarnational ministry that encourages, prepares, and supports a growing number of God's people as they live out their baptismal calling to be Christ-like servant leaders in their congregations, homes, workplaces, communities, and the world. To learn more about the organization and support our work go to kindleservantleaders.org. Season 1 launches January 19, 2022!