Getting Real with Jon & Beth

Nashville music mogul Joe Kelly joins the podcast for an insightful conversation about his journey to becoming President of CDX Nashville and CDX Records.  Joe has been in the music business for 40 years and has changed his strategies to coincide with the changes in the times of the ever-changing music industry.  He discusses why he chose not to meet his musical hero, Merle Haggard, and the struggles he overcame in becoming one of music's most successful music distributors and radio chart publishers. Hear how a turkey pot pie encouraged him to never give up and why he loves the phrase “Good is the enemy of GREAT!" Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Real World Los Angeles's legendary roommate, David Edwards, joins Beth Stolarczyk and Jon Brennan to hash out the “Real World Homecoming” and why he left the show for the second time. He talks about being a Pawpaw and how he feels blessed, including being part of a dysfunctional reality cast. He tells behind-the-scenes events we didn't know about and what it is like nowadays when he sees Tami Roman. This is the episode we have all been waiting for! David continues to perform comedy in Los Angeles and Las Vegas. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Phillip Solomon from “Deal or No Deal Island” season 2 joins Beth Stolarczyk and Jon Brennan will discuss how he got cast on the show, the crash course swimming lessons to prepare, and outfit planning.  He gives us details on the daily shooting schedule, the living conditions, and behind-the-scenes comments about how Dr. Will ended up on the island. Phillip discusses the importance and responsibility of representing people like him and overcoming the challenges and apprehensions of being on a major network television show. He also relives and recites his now-famous and shocking Harriet Tubman quote. You can find Phillip on Instagram and TikTok at @psolomon12 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The band “Herrick” joins Jon Brennan and Beth Stolarczyk with a live podcast recording from Rock N Pod Expo 2025 in Music City, Nashville, TN!  The band members discuss their new single release, “Underneath That Old Cowboy Hat” and why they describe their sound as “Country Soul On The Rocks”.   Hear the backstory from one of Nashville's hottest new bands! Visit herricklive.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

A Road Ruler and 3 Real Worlders collaborate for this ultimate podcast mashup.  "Brain Candy" and "Getting Real With Jon & Beth" podcasts have a joint round table to discuss old school reality origins and backstories you never knew.  Sarah Rice (MTV's “The Real World: Brooklyn”, “The Challenge”), Susie Meister (MTV's “Road Rules: Down Under”, “The Challenge), Beth Stolarczyk (MTV's “The Real World: Los Angeles, “The Challenge”) and Jon Brennan (MTV's “The Real World: Los Angeles”, “The Challenge”) mix it up about their experiences and take on the current shows.   These 4 OG's get “real” about what they really think about the show, strategy, production, other reality stars, other reality shows, and it gets very intriguing.  THIS is the true story of four reality stars who started it all.  THIS is what happens when you combine two awesome podcasts for one incredible episode. These legends discuss Road Rules, The Real World Homecoming, The Challenge, and All Stars!  Enjoy behind-the-scenes tea, which yields a Reality TV lover's dream podcast episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Lori Regen: “The Real World: Back To New York” Lori Regen, roommate and cast member of MTV's “The Real World: Back To New York”  is our guest on the podcast episode this week.  She shares with Beth Stolarczyk and Jon Brennan share their experiences living with Coral, Mike “The Miz”, Malik, and the rest of her cast on the pioneer reality show as well as “The Challenge”.   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Content creator, Lauren-Blair Donovan sits in on the podcast with Jon Brennan and Beth Stolarczyk to discuss her posts on social media regarding “The Challenge” and “All Stars”.  Blair discusses her desire to have been on The Real World and her thoughts on the Homecoming shows. Beth reveals her conversations with Coral on The Gauntlet 3 and Blair tells us which reality star she would ever swap lives with.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Katie Cooley joins Beth Stolarczyk and Jon Brennan to discuss her latest stint on The Challenge All Stars 5: Rivals! The Road Rules OG talks about her relationship with Veronica and how to keep your cool during a reality show competition. She gets specific about strategies, regrets, fears and victories. Beth realizes that Veronica was not out to get her on this season and Katie reveals that she was sure to watch all of The Real World Homecoming seasons. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Nicole Zanatta: “Fighting Fire With Fire" Jon Brennan & Beth Stolarczyk's guest is Nicole Zanatta of MTV's The Real World, MTV's The Challenge, and MTV's The Challenge All Stars 5. Nicole spills the tea on how she navigates her way through a reality competition show. We discuss Melissa Reeves, Amber Borzotra, Frank Sweeney Fox, and many others.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Faysal Shafaat, known as Fessy, chops it up with Beth Stolarczyk and Jon Brennan about his initial audition for Survivor, only to be cast onto Big Brother and become an icon of The Challenge! He talks about strategy, training, and diet before being surprised by a special, unannounced guest during the conversation here on this podcast episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Devin Walker details how he went from MTV's “Are You The One?” to being a mainstay on “The Challenge”. Devin shares the skinny with Jon Brennan and Beth Stolarczyk about Leroy's character and Dario's breath. He is an expert in strategy on competition games and has proven so by becoming a Challenge Champion in a past season. This episode dissects “The Challenge All Stars 5: Rivals,” which is currently airing on MTV each Wednesday evening Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Frank Sweeney Fox shares with Beth Stolarczyk and Jon Brennan the strategy he has learned from studying Traitors and being a student of the Housewives and how he is now applying that while competing on “The Challenge All Stars 5: Rivals,” which is currently airing each Wednesday on MTV. Frank is confident and has been accused of being a snake with his tactics this season as he pairs up with his “rival” and former “Real World: San Diego” housemate, Sam McGinn. Jon has to point out several times that Beth is gushing and blushing over Frank, finding him extremely handsome and charming. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Sam McGinn returns to the Getting Real With Jon & Beth podcast to tell Beth Stolarczyk and Jon Brennan about her early awaited return back to MTV's “The Challenge All Stars 5: Rivals”. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Adam Larson returns to Getting Real With Jon & Beth to discuss his return to The Challenge All Stars 5: Rivals! He describes Beth Stolarczyk's puppy cry as they competed on a platform 55 stories high in the first daily challenge. Jon Brennan deems him the new GOAT on the scene and a “True Story” OG of The Challenge franchise. Now that Beth and Jonna have been eliminated we look forward each week to seeing Adam compete with his rival partner Steve to see how long they can last. You can tune in each Wednesday night at 8pm Eastern / 7pm Central on MTV. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

MTV's The Challenge All Stars 5 cast member Amber Borzotra is "Getting Real" with Jon Brennan and Beth Stolarczyk. She shares her reasons for her game moves and how she ended up on CBS' "Big Brother" show.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

"Getting Real" podcast hosts Beth Stolarczyk and Jon Brennan discuss episode 1 of The Challenge All-Stars 5: Rivals. They discuss the cast, the rival pairs, and the first competition. Jon compliments Beth's willingness to apologize on camera to Jonna face to face for the past and Beth explains the complications of being partnered with someone who severely dislikes you. This season is heating up and we are here for all the drama and “mudslinging"! Also Beth's witch laugh is featured on episode one and also in this podcast episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Tori Gwinn from MTV's Road Rules: Viewers Revenge, The Gauntlet 3, The Duel 2, and The Challenge Cutthroat is our OG guest. We discuss her wins, experiences, and coming full circle in life outside of the show. Is she interested in being on The Challenge again? Beth Stolarczyk and Jon Brennan love having true pioneers on the podcast! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

As “The Challenge All Stars” returns to the MTV Network, Beth Stolarczyk and Jon Brennan give a run down on each competitor as they break down the cast. Beth wonders who she might be matched up with as a rival and Jon reminds her that she has “so many to choose from.”  The Challenge All Stars 5: RIVALS premieres Wednesday, January 29, 2025, on MTV Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Reality pioneers Beth Stolarczyk and Jon Brennan discuss the tragic wildfires in Los Angeles, California. Los Angeles is's current hometown for Beth and the location where she and Jon were part of the groundbreaking cast on season two of MTV's “The Real World”. Beth describes what living in LA County is like as the Santa Ana winds blow wildfire all over the region and shares stories that her family and friends have experienced during this horrible week. Jon talks about how fragile and unpredictable life can be. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Wellness and Recovery specialist, YouTube vlogger and motivational speaker Marc Agboka joins cohosts Jon Brennan and Beth Stolarczyk for an honest podcast discussion. They talk mental health and fitness and how it applies to all of us in life, even reality stars. Beth chimes in and exposes that Wes and Bananas' feud is fabricated just for social media traction which leads to Jon expressing views of fake rivalries just to get cast. Marc discusses what his opinions are before and after meeting certain “The Challenge” stars in person. Follow Marc Agboka in social media here: @musicandmentalhealth @MindfulRealiTea   youtube.com/@musicandmentalhealth Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Kevin Lee is an Executive Producer of reality shows such as The Real Housewives of Orange County, The Simple Life, The Summit, The Challenge, Road Rules, The Real World, The Real World Homecoming (New York, Los Angeles, and New Orleans), and many more! Kevin shares with Beth Stolarczyk and Jon Brennan who his favorite reality stars are, stories about shooting The Real World Homecomings, and tons of insights about logistics and how reality television production has changed over the years. It is also revealed which show holds the closest place in his heart and why. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jason Cornwell of Cornwell Casting and old school cast member from MTV's “The Real World: Boston” and early season of “The Challenge” joins Beth Stolarczyk and Jon Brennan for a candid conversation about the early days of reality television. He shares his tactic for avoiding conflict…" I'm Paul and that's between y'all”. Jason shares as a casting agent why Beth is a great cast and how he was responsible for putting Teck and Ruthie on the Hawaii season of The Real World. He announces Fox's renewal for a new season of “The Farmer Wants A Wife” which he worked on casting and reveals some of the other TV shows he has helped cast. Beth asks Jason what direction he thinks reality TV is trending to these days.  Check out cornwellcasting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

TV personality and Interior designer to the stars is spilling tea to Beth Stolarczyk and Jon Brennan about his favorite clients and his love for Kathy Hilton and her fabulous parties. We also discuss his time on The Anna Nicole show as well as Lisa Vanderpump. Which Real Housewife of Beverly Hills owes him 15k? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Irene Suttner is welcomed back to the “Getting Real With Jon And Beth” podcast for a great visit where old roommates catch up. They talk about the pros and cons of “The Real World Homecoming” and discuss places they may all be traveling to together in the future. You can find more information on Irene's endeavors at: realworldtravelswithirene.com irenesuttner.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Beth Stolarczyk and Jon Brennan discuss holiday food until Syrus drops in.  The friends catch up and talk about footsie on The Challenge, Tenderoni, and Real World cast members in Presidential Cabinet roles. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Fatemeh Gholtoghian joins reality stars Beth Stolarczyk and Jon Brennan for a packed conversation about what it is like behind the scenes as a talent producer on MTV's The Challenge, The Challenge All Stars, The Simple Life, Vanderpump Villa, and The Shahs of Sunset. We discuss the Kardashians and Fatemehs' preconceived apprehensions and notions about Beth and which ones are true and untrue. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Temporary roommates Ruthie Alcaide of “The Real World Hawaii” and Sam McGinn from “The Real World San Diego” join Beth Stolarczyk and Jon Brennan for the ultimate Real World season crossover! This conversation gets intriguing as these OG legends discuss how members from different seasons become friends and why Ruthie is crashing at Sam's place for a week. Is Ruthie leaving the country for an adventure? Find out on this podcast episode of "Getting Real With Jon And Beth”.  Here is how you can join in on Ruthie's Leap of Faith: A Journey of Music and Global Impact: https://www.gofundme.com/f/ruthies-leap-of-faith-a-journey-of-music-and-global-impact Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Sam McGinn of MTV's The Real World San Diego and MTV's The Challenge catches up with Jon Brennan and Beth Stolarczyk. She shares her reality tv story and what she thinks about doing another Challenge or The Challenge All Stars in the future. True Story! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Lacey Hanmer discusses her thoughts about reality TV stardom and whether she would say yes to a Real World Homecoming show or The Challenge All-Stars. She is getting real with Jon Brennan and Beth Stolarczyk. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Video Creator Mark Christie, aka Mark Chrispy (@mark_chrispy), joins Beth Stolarczyk and Jon Brennan for a chat about social media and how how he began watching “The Challenge” and “The Real World” in reverse order! Mark is a big fan of hosts Beth and Jon and he is able to give them pointers as to how he accumulated over 1.5 million followers on YouTube, Ticktok. He gives ideas to his methods of creating great video content. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jon Brennan and Beth Stolarczyk mash it up with Adam Rank, "NFL Fantasy Live" and "Good Morning Football" as well as host of " The Sick Podcast". We chat about The Challenge 40 stars, CT, Jordan Wiseley, Aneesa Ferreira, Cory Wharton, Johnny Bananas, Wes Bergmann, and more as Adam Rank gives us his list of Fantasy Challenge All-Stars. Adam “Ranks” your favorite people on MTV's "The Challenge”. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Pierre Bacall is the sidekick co-host of the Zach Nichols Podcast that breaks down MTV / Paramount+'s “The Challenge”. Pierre joins Jon Brennan and Beth Stolarczyk for a great podcast episode about how The Challenge started and evolved. He also discusses if he would ever want to participate or if he is just satisfied with podcasting about it. It's a great conversation among cast members and viewers and the conversation is full of insight and tea you wanna hear if you are a reality television fan! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Julius Maddox is known worldwide as a powerlifter who is the world record holder in the bench press. Actually, he is the 4X world record holder having broken his own record 4 times! Julius Maddox discusses with Jon Brennan and Beth Stolarczyk his experiences growing up as a troubled young man battling mental health issues, and toxic masculinity, and his journey is finding purpose in life. His story and character are inspiring and touching. Follow him on Instagram @irregular_strength and visit irregularstrength.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Wanna get cast on Peacock's original 'LOVE ISLANDUSA' but don't know how to get on the show? Jodi Thomas, The Casting Director for LOVE ISLAND USA, shares casting secrets on how to get cast on the show and discusses what they are looking for in future cast members. We also discuss Olivia Ann Kaiser, Nurys Mateo, and MTV's The Challenge 40. Jon Brennan and Beth Stolarczyk get up close and personal with Jodi Thomas. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Montana gets candid with Jon Brennan and Beth Stolarczyk about her reality TV experience and shares what she is doing now and who she keeps in touch with. This OG is one of the best!  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Country music hitmaker Neal McCoy joins Beth Stolarczyk and Jon Brennan for an entertaining visit where they discuss his numerous hit radio singles and the random times Jon ran into him out on tour. For eight years Neal McCoy has been broadcasting live on Facebook his “Pledge Allegiance To The Flag” and you can join him daily on his official Facebook page. Beth has terrific similarities in taste with Neal on his early musical influences with pop icons and Neal fills us in on how he is making a huge difference in East Texas with his upcoming charity foundation and concert, The Angel Network. Follow Neal McCoy on Facebook and more information on his tour and music can be found at nealmccoy.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jon Brennan and Beth Stolarczyk gets major Tea about cast members from The Real World Paris. CT, Adam, Ace, Mallory, Christina, and Simon. Leah opens up about MTV's The Challenge, Bravo and The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, The Real Housewives of Orange County, and what's going on with Kyle Richards. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Aviv Melmed is MTV's Fresh Meat Challenge Champion with Darrell Taylor. She's representing Era 2 on The Challenge 40. Aviv is getting real with her thoughts about her experience and what it takes to be a Champion on The Challenge. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Johnny Donovan shares about his love for working with reality TV stars from The Real Housewives, MTV's The Challenge, Teen Mom, and The Jersey Shore shows. He gets real about what it takes to make it in this business and also what it takes to get cast on a reality TV show. Jon Brennan and Beth Stolarczyk are getting real with this socialite extraordinaire. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Dom is Getting Real with Jon Brennan & Beth Stolarczyk speaking for the first time in over 30 years about his MTV 90s days, why he didn't participate in The Real World Homecoming Los Angeles with Paramount Plus, and his love for music and Manchester United. Would he ever consider being in front of the camera in the future?  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

How do you get cast on American Idol? Producers from American Idol give you all the tips you need to master your Audition. Jon Brennan and Beth Stolarczyk welcome Patrick Lynn, American Idol Supervising Producer, and Lynly Ehrlich, American Idol Casting Producer. We talk about Clay Aiken and Beth pitches a new show idea. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jodi Weatherton, MTV's The Challenge 40 is our guest. We chat about her history on The Challenge and Road Rules Extreme, Mark Long, Johnny Bananas, Jenny West, Cara Maria Sorbello, and her favorite music. Jodi gets real about how she really feels about Beth Stolarczyk from the early Challenge days on The Gauntlet 2/ Inferno 2, and The Duel. Jon Brennan and Jodi talk about her favorite music and her thoughts on other challenge cast members. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Emilee Fitzpatrick (@iwantmyemtv) from MTV's The Real World Cancun is GETTING REAL WITH JON & BETH. We discuss her MTV roots, alternate life in THE CHALLENGE and THE CHALLENGE ALL STARS, her BFF friends, her love for Beth's Eyelusion Lashes Beverly Hills, and what inspired her to try out for a reality show. Jon Brennan and Beth Stolarczyk get up close and personal with this MTV reality TV star who continues to shine bright. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The host of the new podcast “Talking Chocolates”, Vince Lanni, joins Beth Stolarczyk & Jon Brennan for a conversation about leadership in the hospitality industry, his charity efforts, and the honky-tonk nightlife in Nashville. Vince is a huge fan of “The Challenge” and gives Beth some great advice from a fan's perspective!  Jon thinks Beth has chosen the wrong key as she sings her potential walk-out song if she was a professional wrestler. This alone is worth tuning in for. True Story. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Trishelle Canatella from The Real World: Las Vegas, The Challenge, The Surreal Life, Fear Factor, Below Deck, and Traitors joins Beth Stolarcyzk and Jon Brennan for a very candid conversation about all of reality television.  She discusses why she is not on The Challenge 40, why Beth would be perfect for Traitors, and what her best and worst experiences are on all of her reality journeys.  Trishelle gets very REAL about the differences in how different networks and production companies treat the talent on various shows.  Truly this gal knows the ropes and has the expertise to give insight regarding decades of the development of reality shows. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

From “Jake's Take” podcast, Jacob Elyachar joins Beth Stolarczyk and Jon Brennan to celebrate his 300th podcast episode milestone!  Jacob has an unmatched knowledge of reality shows such as “Survivor”, “American Idol”, “Dancing With The Stars”, “The Masked Singer”, “America's Got Talent” and “The Challenge”!!! He knows all the old-school personalities and is basically a “reality expert!”  Growing up his parents would not allow him to watch “The Real World”, however.  You can check out all of his podcast episodes at jakes-take.com and also on his official YouTube channel! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Beth Stolarczyk and Jon Brenan are thrilled to have this exclusive and long-awaited return of “PUCK” featured on their podcast, “Getting Real With Jon And Beth” on the Pantheon Network.  The most notorious and infamous reality televsion star ever  talks about appearing in 1994 on “The Real World: San Francisco” (season 3 of The Real World) and whether or not he would ever reunite with his cast.  He visits his character “Weird Beard” from the 1995 reunion, his time in a mental hospital, why the police in Flagstaff, Arizona call him the “Roadside Superhero” The conversation moves to Puck speaking at Congress with his roommate Rachel Campos Duffy and her husband and then Congressman, Sean Duffy who are also Real World alumni.  Puck was the very first “host” of The Challenge franchise as Mr. Big of “Road Rules All-Stars” which is dubbed as the first season of The Challenge which is now on its 40th season.  They get into the David Edwards “spitting incident” and Beth asks Puck who his all-time dream cast would be. Jon reminds Puck that he was victorious over him in MTV's claymation series “Celebrity Death Match”.  Puck recalls being on MTV's “Cribs” and MTV's “Beach House”.   Beth decides who is better looking between Eric Nies, CT, Horacio and Puck.  Puck also gives thoughts to non Real World / Road Rules cast members being cast on today's version of the show and celebrates 158 days of sobriety!!  And much more…!! This is the episode and update you have been waiting decades for. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Arissa Hill from “The Real World: Los Vegas”, “Battle of The Sexes 2” and “The Challenge All-Stars 1” joins legendary reality stars Beth Stolarczyk and Jon Brennan to discuss how she entered reality TV, what she is up to now and where she is living and her philosophy on life.  They discuss her infamous elimination exit against Beth in The Challenge All-Stars on Paramount+ and why she felt so betrayed by her cast mates.  Jon asks Arissa why she offered to box Beth rather than compete in the planned competition and how she felt about the host TJ Lavin saying, “Don't take care, hope to see you never”.  Arissa is an explosive guest and you won't want to miss this episode as she gives Beth some pointers on how to be more liked on reality competition shows.  They discuss why Beth would be terrific on Peacock's “Traitors”.  You may be shocked to learn what music she is jamming to lately.  These 3 unlikely friends have a jam-packed episode! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Syrus Yarbrough from MTV's “The Real World: Boston” and “The Challenge All-Stars” returns to the “Getting Real With Jon And Beth” podcast with old friends Beth Stolarczyk and Jon Brennan.  Syrus gives the hosts a lesson on Drake's music and they discuss light and dark skin tones in African and African American cultures.  He goes on to describe his extended vacation with his wife after filming “The Challenge” in South Africa as an alternate and the process in being called up into the game!  These three reality OGs talk about “The Real World” and “Road Rules” competitors being a different breed than the other reality crossover contestants. Syrus also reveals to us why he is the luckiest man in the world!  Welcome back, Syrus, TV's 1st Black Reality Star! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

From the original MTV “Real World vs Road Rules Challenge”, “Road Rules: Down Under” and “Challenge All-Stars 4”, Kefla Hare joins Beth Stolarczyk and Jon Brennan for a very enlightening and positive discussion about his experience on the last Challenge, teaching in school, and his approach to negative influences in life!   Kefla is described by Jon as “Salt of the Earth” and Beth reminisces about her time many years ago competing against Kefla on the first Challenge ever! This is a TRUE STORY about 3 undeniable OG's talking about then…and now. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Brandon Nelson from MTV's “The Challenge: Fresh Meat” and “Challenge All-Stars 2” & “Challenge All-Stars 4” joins Jon Brennan and Beth Stolarcyzk for some very interesting details about AS4.  Beth and Jon have never met Brandon but his discussion get's very, very good! He discusses Ayanna's drama, including things that did not get aired, and reads a test message from his phone from Ace. Then Brandon flips the script on the hosts and asks Beth two VERY dynamic questions that everyone has been wanting to ask her and say to her! Beth gives very thorough answers and clears the air once and for all with ALL the background info! This is the “Tea” you want! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices