Kurt Vonnegut Radio with Gabe Hudson

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Welcome to episode #39 of Kurt Vonnegut Radio 

Today's guest, Mark Wynn, is the subject of a new documentary film called, This is Where I Learned Not to Sleep, made by award-winning filmmakers Anne de Mare and Kristen Kelly. So who is Mark Wynn? Well he's a former police officer in Nashville who – after listening carefully to the women of Nashville in a way that nobody else was – he started the largest domestic violence prevention unit in the country. Mark also a survivor of domestic violence, as was his mother, as were his siblings. And the essence of the story is that he had a stepfather who committed horrible violence against them all in the state of Texas. And on one occasion, this stepfather attacked Mark's mother. She grabbed a baseball bat, hit that man over the head and Mark's family fled back to Nashville. And in the course of this film, Mark returns to that very house in Texas and revisits that trauma bravely and courageously. The other narrative strand that extends through the film is that Mark has spent the last 30 plus years of his life devoted to trying to make the world a safer place for children and women. He has traveled to every state in America and other countries around the world. Speaking to various law enforcement agencies about the need to address interpersonal violence. I think you'll be mesmerized within minutes of hearing Mark Wynn tell his story and hear the humility, the compassion, the wisdom in his voice. I have never met anyone exactly like Mark Wynn. October is Domestic Violence Awareness Month view the doc This is Where I learned Not To Sleep visit the website for doc This is Where I Learned Not To Sleep Learn more abt The Mary Parrish Center (founded in honor of Mark's mother) Learn more about the filmmakers National Domestic Violence Hotline: 800-799-7233 Learn more about Mark Wynn For media related to film, contact Page One Media Other episodes of Kurt Vonnegut Radio for your enjoyment: Dave Eggers Jen Taub Maggie Smith Michael Estrin Merve Emre Rate/Review Kurt Vonnegut Radio Subscribe to the Kurt Vonnegut Newsletter Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jen Taub is an acclaimed author, legal scholar, and podcaster extraordinaire. Gabe talks to Jen about why she is putting her whole heart into her podcast Booked Up. This conversation contains many treasures, including the story of how Jen discovered who she was and what was most important to her. Jen Taub, choice quotes from convo On why she started her podcast "Ever since COVID and beyond, we've just been impoverished. And I wanted to rebuild that. I think I started this podcast. I wanted to do this for a while. Because I realized when my second book came out, there weren't that many opportunities to talk to people about it. And I thought I want to be that opportunity for people." On how being a podcast host requires certain level of improv "You just may have maybe listened to the Michael Lewis interview, but I didn't realize I was going to say to him, ‘Oh, so you write.' And like, he went with it." On the art of asking a question ( by not asking a question) "I don't typically ask a direct question. I'll say something about myself. I'll make a random comment. And the next thing, you know, someone's told me their life story. People really want to be seen and they want to be heard. And I really want to hear and see them." On her idea of heaven "Talking with the authors is heaven." Subscribe & listen to “Booked Up with Jen Taub” on Apple or Spotify Subscribe to Jennifer Taub's newsletter Money & Gossip Visit Jennifer's website and follow her on twitter & instagram Buy Jennifer's critically acclaimed book Big Dirty Money Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This is the 2nd and final part of Gabe's conversation with Dave Eggers Dave opens up and gets candid about his own artistic impulse to pivot with each writing project. He talks about his early days in art school, and what drew him to certain artists. He talks about Lorrie Moore, George Saunders, , and why he thinks Percival Everett is probably the rightful heir to the more radical writers of the 60's. For Gabe, this conversation was somewhat emotional (but in a good one). As Dave notes at the end of our convo, they've been friends now for 25 years. Also, at some point in here, the writer Michael Lewis comes up: and Gabe talks about how he heard Michael Lewis on the podcast Smartless, talking about in the aftermath of losing his daughter: his friend Dave Eggers showed up on his porch with food, and told Michael, “I'm going to be right there in that car in front of your house, for the next 24 hours.” And then Michael Lewis talked about he had never experienced grief and loss like that, and what he learned from Dave in that gesture is that that is the best and most compassionate thing you can do for someone. Anyway, if this episode has a theme it is definitely capital F friendship. Dave Eggers quotes On Lorrie Moore and her new book I've been reading Laurie Moore's new book. I'm only in the second chapter, but she's always been one of my favorite writers for the same reason. She's so funny. She writes beautiful sentences, but she was not afraid to throw in One liners every paragraph. And they're really one liners. They're really tightly written. They're very funny and they're not afraid to go for the laugh. She's a national treasure, one of our best writers, every bit as funny and important as Mark Twain was in his time. On Kurt Vonnegut I think that people should know that he was the guy that you'd want him to be. He was every bit as generous, and kind. And, we asked him to do the intro to the Best American Non Required Reading, which I used to edit. And he wrote a fax back. He used to fax and he wrote back, Dear Believer. Cause he got it mixed up , he's like, I wish I could do the intro. That would have been a gas or something like that. It sounded like he didn't either didn't sound like he 100 percent meant it, joking like boy, , what fun that would have been. But I'm, old and tired and I can't do it. Something like that. It was very him. And, we've kept and framed this fax by him and, but you know, he was exactly the guy that he was on the page and that's not that common. Buy Dave Eggers' new novel The Eyes and the Impossible (with wooden cover) from McSweeney's Buy Dave's new novel (without wooden cover) from Bookshop Visit the McSweeney's website Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Gabe and Dave Eggers have been friends for the last 25 years: since Dave first popped up on the national stage, with his memoir, A Heartbreaking Work of Staggering Genius. And his indie publishing juggernaut: McSweeney's.  This interview is, in part, to support Dave's new novel, The Eyes and the Impossible. A novel that's for all ages. And for the ages. This book is written in the first person, from the perspective of a dog named Johannes. (Go ahead, take a second to reread that last sentence.) This book is wondrous, beautiful, hilarious, and somewhat heartbreaking. It also has gorgeous illustrations. And some editions have a wooden cover. Dave Eggers quotes On having lunch with Kurt Vonnegut Gabe: Vonnegut was obsessed with the idea, and I know you know this because I have always known that you love him, too –Dave: I met him.Gabe: You met him? Well can you tell me about that?Dave: in New York. His wife, Jill Krementz, reached out and she was a photographer. So she did a photo thing of me in Central Park. And she said, Oh, you know, you've got to come over. And it was a lunch, I think, in their house in the twenties. And it was me. This was 2002. And it was me and Colson Whitehead and, I think John Leonard. And then there was a jazz writer. And then Vonnegut and Jill. And what was funny was… (click the above podcast device to hear the rest)On early McSweeney's event with David Byrne We did one “happening” in San Francisco at a place called Cell Space. Which is this cavernous sort of event hall slash living environment. It was like a pirate ship, with people living in the rafters and under the stage. It was really old timey San Francisco hippie space, but most of the people there were youngish. And we had an event there where David Byrne might have been out here for his book, The New Sins, that we published.We said it would be a panel. And it was Byrne and I on the panel. And then we got an FBI agent, who I don't know why or who he was. I can't remember how we found him. And then a local professor who was an expert on ancient Sumerian iconography, I think.And we planted a bunch of people in the audience, so that the Q&A – because I think we went straight to Q&A – was all directed to the Sumerian iconography experts. So that you have David Byrne sitting there, silent, for an hour. Because every last question was somebody like, “Well, in AD 540, the Sumerian, poet…” We had all of these questions written by the expert himself beforehand.And then the whole thing ended, we had booked, I think with David Byrne's knowledge, but maybe without. We had booked a band called the Extra Action Marching Band, which was a big sort of anarchic marching band with tattoos and piercings and weird clothes. But drums and a majorette and everything. And they broke into the place and then just shut the whole event down by playing in the crowd until it was over. So the event was crazy. Buy Dave Eggers' new novel The Eyes and the Impossible (with wooden cover) from McSweeney's Buy Dave's new novel (without wooden cover) from Bookshop Rate/review Kurt Vonnegut Radio on podcast platform of your choice Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Gabe interviews special guest author, Michael Estrin , who writes the beloved newsletter, Situation Normal . Around which a big community of fervent super-devoted readers has sprung up. Michael's comic stories from his life are big-hearted and sometimes weird. When you talk to him about the community of readers that gather around his words, his deep affection for them shines through. The other cool thing about Michael's writing endeavor is his creative partnership with his wife. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Merve is renowned critic, scholar, contributing writer at the The New Yorker, and Director of the Shapiro Center for Creative Writing and Criticism at Wesleyan University. Gabe and Merve discuss Merve's new piece “What is Mom Rage Actually?” in this week's The New Yorker. Read Merve Emre's new piece “What is Mom Rage, Actually?” in this week's The New Yorker Read Merve's interview with Diane Williams in The New Yorker Read Merve's recent piece on Italo Calvino in The New Yorker Buy Merve's book The Personality Brokers Buy Merve's book The Annotated Mrs. Dalloway Buy Merve's book The Ferrante Letters Visit Merve's website Attend Merve's guest Speaker series The Critic and Her Publics at Weslyan University (free & open to the public) Follow Merve's work as Director of the Shapiro Center for Creative Writing and Criticism at Weslyan University Rate/review Kurt Vonnegut Radio on podcast platform of your choice Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Maggie Smith is the New York Times bestselling author of You Could Make This Place Beautiful; the national bestsellers Goldenrod and Keep Moving: and author of the beloved, world famous poem, "Good Bones." Maggie Smith's memoir is truth-telling of the highest order. This book chronicles the peaks and valleys of her odyssey in recent years. How her poem, “Good Bones,” went super viral, and her marriage dissolved, and she found herself in frightening terrain. And how she stepped up and responded by writing two books, and through her artistry and creativity: she was able to insure that she and her kids would be OK and continue to live in their house. Show Notes Buy Maggie Smith's new memoir You Could Make This Place Beautiful Subscribe to Maggie's newsletter For Dear Life Buy Maggie's recent book Keep Moving Buy Maggie's poetry collection Good Bones Visit Maggie's website and follow her on twitter and instagram Rate/review Kurt Vonnegut Radio on podcast platform of your choice Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

A.M. Homes is author of 13 books including most recently a novel: The Unfolding.  Homes' 2013, May We Be Forgiven, won the Women's Prize for Fiction and her memoir, The Mistress's Daughter was published to international acclaim. Her work has been translated into 22 languages. Gabe talks to the iconic writer A.M. Homes about her new novel, The Unfolding, her renowned Barbie story, "A Real Doll," teaching at Princeton, and her position in the Writers Guild and the WGA strike. Quotes from the episode Why she wrote a Barbie story back in the day I wrote it while I was a graduate student at the University of Iowa, and I was really just interested in how, when I was growing up, my mother was like, Barbie's not an appropriate toy for girls to play with, you can't have a Barbie, she's too sexual. And so I wanted to write this theoretically innocent story about a boy who was dating a Barbie doll. How ppl responded to her Barbie when she was in U. of Iowa MFA I went and got one, and I put it on the mantle in my apartment in Iowa City. And everyone who came over started doing things to Barbie and the first thing every person did was they took off her clothes and I was like, weird, like you come into my house and you undress my Barbie? And then they would confess. They would tell me things that either they had done to their Barbie or that their sibling had done to Barbie. And so it immediately became a much more complicated and darker story about... Men and women, to sexuality, to all this kind of stuff that's just under the surface. On why her latest novel, The Unfolding, is a political novel set in 2008 I also am very interested, as one sees in The Unfolding, in the domestic. And so this was a chance in this book to write big and small. Large scale American political landscape, and also American familial landscape, and how that all evolves. Because the novel is really about how we got to now. And the choice to set it in this period between the election inauguration in 2008, I wanted to begin to illustrate how the racism and sexism that was always latent, obviously, and had never really gone away, but when Obama was elected, it also became Much brighter and louder. I think older white men got really scared. And so there absolutely is this sense of what is the underlying threat. Buy A.M. Homes' new novel The Unfolding Buy A.M. Homes' The Safety of Objects Read about A.M. Homes's fictional encounter between Andy Warhol and Mick Jagger Read about A.M. Homes' Embrace the Absurd public art project w Laurie Anderson Visit A.M.'s website and follow her on twitter A.M.'s book recs: Buy Randall Keenan's Black Folk Could Fly Buy Maria Popova's Figuring Buy Henry Hoke's Open Throat Rate/review Kurt Vonnegut Radio on podcast app of yr choice Enjoy more Kurt Vonnegut Radio episodes: Sam Lipsyte: Interview Mike Sowden: Interview Sari Botton: Interview Alex Dobrenko: Interview Andrew Leland: Interview On Sinead O'Connor On George Saunders ]On Kurt Vonnegut Follow Kurt Vonnegut Radio on podcast app of your choice Find me on Twitter and Instagram Contact me at gabehudsonpod(at)gmail.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Alex Dobrenko is a writer, comedian, and actor. He writes humorous and vulnerable personal essays on his hugely popular Substack, Both Are True. Alex writes about his life as a new father and being a sorta hopeful Millennial in a dying empire. His work is hilarious, but it's also shot through with real grace and vulnerability. He's like a millennial David Sedaris, or Larry David. Gabe talks to Alex about how he uses techniques from improv, stand-up comedy, and acting to write his beloved Substack. Subscribe to Alex Dobrenko`'s Substack Both Are True Read Alex's i think my son hates me Read Alex's Beautiful Disasters Read Alex's First to die Follow Alex on Twitter and Instagram Rate/review Kurt Vonnegut Radio on podcast app of yr choice (this is huge help, ty) Enjoy more Kurt Vonnegut Radio episodes: Sari Botton: Interview Sam Lipsyte: Interview On Sinead O'Connor Andrew Leland: Interview On George Saunders On Kurt Vonnegut Follow Kurt Vonnegut Radio on podcast app of your choice Find Gabe on Twitter and Instagram Contact Gabe at gabehudsonpod(at)gmail.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Gabe Hudson talks about how as someone whose official job title in Marine Corps was "rifleman," he believes we should ban AR-15's now. He explains how if it's harder to get ahold of an assault rifle in Marine Corps than in regular society, then America has lost its mind. He talks about the white supremacist who killed 3 Black people this weekend. And how the myth of the "lone wolf" is a complete lie. And how all the white supremacists are in conversation with each other, in their online screeds "manifestos" and with their AR-15's. Also includes commentary on wanna-be-fascist Ron DeSantis and this is all part of his plan. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Gabe reads one of George Saunders' early stories out loud and explains some of George's ingenious writing techniques. For anyone who writers stories, or who is in the storytelling trade, what you learn on thisd podcast episode might turn out to be the most important thing you know in your life. It will probably change your life. Because it completely changed Gabe's life. Gabe also explains how by using the technique that George Saunders taught him a couple decades ago, a writer can set their characters free. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Gabe Hudson talks about what Sinead O'Connor's truth-telling remains contagious. He talks about the recent documentary about her life, Nothing Compares to You. Referred to in episode: Sinead singing This is to Mother You Sinead O'Connor documentary Find Gabe on Twitter and Instagram Rate/Review Kurt Vonnegut Radio Subscribe to Kurt Vonnegut Radio's Substack Other episodes for you to enjoy: 1st Sinead O'Connor episode Kurt Vonnegut Sam Lipsyte George Saunders Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Akhil Sharma is the author of Family Life and A Life of Adventure and Delight. He's a regular contributor to The New Yorker, and has won a bunch of awards including the PEN/Hemingway Award, Guggenheim, and International Dublin Literary Award. He's also a professor at Duke University. Buy Akhil Sharma's novel Family Life Buy Akhil's story collection A Life of Adventure and Delight Read Akhil's Why I hate My Best Short Story in The New Yorker Read Akhil's short story We Didn't Like Him in The New Yorker Listen to convo with Akhil & Fiction Editor Deborah Treisman on TNYer Podcast Rate/review Kurt Vonnegut Radio (this is how you help our show live) More episodes of KVR: Sinead O'Connor Sari Botton Sam Lipsyte Andrew Leland George Saunders Kurt Vonnegut Follow Kurt Vonnegut Radio on podcast app of your choice Find Gabe on Twitter and Instagram Contact Gabe at gabehudsonpod(at)gmail.com Jude Brewer was executive producer and editor for this episode Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Sari Botton is the author of memoir, And You May Find Yourself: Confessions of a Late-Blooming Gen X Weirdo. Sari is the editor-in-chief of the beloved publication, Oldster Magazine, which publishes such luminaries as Cheryl Strayed, Deesha Philyaw, Maggie Smith, and Lauri Stone. Sari and Gabe compare Gen X notes about growing up as feral children in the 70's. They discuss the challenges Sari overcame in writing her memoir. They chat about Sari's lifelong sense of being a misfit and how through writing and telling the truth she found her people. They discuss her fascination with aging and and why she feels that who she is today is the realest version of herself. They also discuss her editorial vision and what the word “oldster” means to her. Follow Sari Botton on Twitter and Instagram Buy Sari's memoir Read Sari's magazines Oldster and Memoir Land and Adventures in Journalism Read an excerpt from Sari's memoir in LitHub Read Sari's Hurricane Tim story that we discuss in this episode Take Sari's Skillshare class on writing memoir Visit Sari's website Jude Brewer was executive producer and editor for this episode Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Sam Lipsyte is the author of many beloved books, a regular contributor to The New Yorker, and faculty member at Columbia University's MFA program. Gabe and Sam dig into his recent non-fiction piece in The New Yorker which is, in part, about the classes he took from the legendary editor Gordon Lish.* They also discuss Sam's recent novel, No One Left To Come Looking for You, which is a Gen X masterpiece. Gabe and Sam also talk about Public Enemy, his father's relationship with Muhammad Ali, and Sam's love of the word Antwerp. *Gordon Lish, as editor, is responsible for helping launch many of your favorite writers, including: Amy Hempel, Barry Hannah, Diane Williams, Ben Marcus, Garielle Lutz, Raymond Carver, Christine Schutt, Will Eno, and Brian Evenson. Jude Brewer was executive producer and editor for this episode Buy Sam Lipsyte's recent novel No One Left to Come Looking For You Buy Sam's recent novella Friend of the Pod Read Sam's recent nf piece in The New Yorker, “A Lesson for the Sub” Listen to Sam's noise-punk band Dungbeetle from early 90's Read Sam's By the Book interview in NYT Read Sam's essay about his father, the legendary sportswriter Rate/review Kurt Vonnegut Radio (this is how you help our show live) Find Gabe on Twitter and Instagram and email More episodes: Sinead O'Connor George Saunders Kurt Vonnegut Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Gabe Hudson talks about what Sinead O'Connor's songs and activism meant to him. And how she changed Generation X. He talks about her ripping up the Pope's picture on Saturday Night Live. Her performance at the Bob Dylan Benefit concert at Madison Square Garden. And why she sang covers of Bob Marley's song War. Gabe also talks about what he is doing with his grief about Sinead's passing. Youtube clips referred to in episode: Sinead on SNL Sinead at Bob Dylan Benefit concert Find Gabe on Twitter and Instagram Rate/Review Kurt Vonnegut Radio Subscribe to Kurt Vonnegut Radio's Substack Other episodes for you to enjoy: Kurt Vonnegut George Saunders Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Andrew Leland is author of the new memoir, The Country of the Blind: a Memoir at the End of Sight and he is an editor at The Believer. His work has appeared in The New Yorker, The New York Times Magazine, and 99 Percent Invisible, and he was host and producer of the podcast, The Organist. Gabe and Andrew have a fun and open-hearted conversation about Andrew's experiences in blind communities across America, his recent Radiolab piece where he joined a crew of disabled people in a training program for astronauts, the meaning of the word “disability,” how to be an ally to blind people, writing journalism for The New Yorker, and what it's like to be the grandson of the playwright Neil Simon. Follow Andrew Leland on Twitter and Instagram and visit his website Buy Andrew's new memoir The Country of the Blind: A Memoir at the End of Sight Find Gabe on Twitter and Instagram Rate/Review Kurt Vonnegut Radio Subscribe to Kurt Vonnegut Radio's Substack Jude Brewer was Executive Producer and Editor for this episode Other episodes for you to enjoy: Kurt Vonnegut George Saunders Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Host Gabe Hudson talks about how George Saunders gave him some writing advice that changed his life. Find Gabe on Twitter and Instagram Rate/Review Kurt Vonnegut Radio Subscribe to Kurt Vonnegut Radio's Substack Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Host Gabe Hudson gets personal and talks about what Kurt Vonnegut's writing has meant to him. Find Gabe on Twitter and Instagram Rate/Review Kurt Vonnegut Radio Subscribe to Kurt Vonnegut Radio's Substack Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Tressie McMillan Cottom is the author of Thick and Other Essays, a columnist for the New York Times, a professor at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, and a 2020 McArthur Fellow. Tressie talks to Gabe about the kind of freedom she wants for all Black women. And how her mother was a member of the Black Panther Party in Winston Salem, NC. We learn about Tressie's 18 stages of essay writing. And why are white audiences more comfortable thinking about Black people in a historical context? Visit Tressie McMillan Cottom's website and follow her on Twitter and Instagram Read Tressie's column in New York Times Buy Tressie's nonfiction book Thick and Other Essays Watch Tressie on The Daily Show More episode resources and links Email Gabe Hudson: gabehudsonsays@gmail.com Follow Gabe on Twitter and Instagram Other episodes you may enjoy: Merve Emre (contributing writer at The New Yorker) Charles Yu (National Book Award Winner) Diksha Basu (author of Destination Wedding) Qian Julie Wang (NYT's bestselling author of Beautiful Country) About the Host: Gabe Hudson is the author of 2 books published from Knopf. His honors include being named one of Granta's “Best of Young American Novelists,” PEN/Hemingway Award Finalist, the Hodder Fellowship from Princeton University, the John Hawkes Prize in Fiction from Brown University, a fellowship from Humanities War & Peace Initiative at Columbia University, and Sue Kaufman Prize from the American Academy of Arts and Letters. His writing has appeared in Granta, The New Yorker, The Believer, McSweeney's, and The New York Times Magazine. He was Editor-at-Large for McSweeney's for 10+ years. He served in the Marine Corps. He teaches at Columbia University.   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Qian Julie Wang is the New York Times Bestselling author of Beautiful Country and a Yale-educated litigator. Qian Julie has one of the most incredible life stories you have ever heard. But Qian Julie's personal philosophy and inspired worldview may well be the most extraordinary thing about her. Qian Julie tells Gabe what it was like for her and her family to give up everything in China and move to Brooklyn when she was seven years old. Visit Qian Julie Wang's website and follow her on Twitter and Instagram Buy Julie's memoir Beautiful Country Read Qian Julie in New York Times Watch Qian Julie on YouTube More episode resources and links Email Gabe Hudson: gabehudsonsays@gmail.com Follow Gabe on Twitter and Instagram Other episodes you may enjoy: Stephanie Land (NYT's bestselling author of Maid) Tressie McMillan Cottom (NYT's columnist) Merve Emre (contributing writer at The New Yorker) Charles Yu (National Book Award Winner) About the Host: Gabe Hudson is the author of 2 books published from Knopf. His honors include being named one of Granta's “Best of Young American Novelists,” PEN/Hemingway Award Finalist, the Hodder Fellowship from Princeton University, the John Hawkes Prize in Fiction from Brown University, a fellowship from Humanities War & Peace Initiative at Columbia University, and Sue Kaufman Prize from the American Academy of Arts and Letters. His writing has appeared in Granta, The New Yorker, The Believer, McSweeney's, and The New York Times Magazine. He was Editor-at-Large for McSweeney's for 10+ years. He served in the Marine Corps. He teaches at Columbia University.   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Rebecca Makkai is the author of 3 novels and her newest novel, I Have Some Questions for You, will be published in February. Rebecca's last novel The Great Believers, a novel set in Chicago at the height of the American AIDS epidemic, was a finalist for the Pulitzer Prize and the National Book Award. Rebecca and Gabe talk about having ADHD, and the challenges of having a brain that's like Times Square. But also the ways in which ADHD can be a creative superpower. Rebecca talks about her impossibly glamorous grandmother who wrote 30 novels in Hungary. Visit Rebecca Makkai's website and follow her on Twitter and Instagram Buy Rebecca's novel I Have Some Questions for You Watch Rebecca on PBS Books Read about Rebecca in New York Times More episode resources and links Email Gabe Hudson: gabehudsonsays@gmail.com Follow Gabe on Twitter and Instagram Other episodes you may enjoy: Tressie McMillan Cottom (NYT's columnist) Merve Emre (contributing writer at The New Yorker) Charles Yu (National Book Award Winner) Nana Kwame Adjei-Brenyah (NYT's bestselling author of Friday Black) Joe Hagan (author of Sticky Fingers: the Life and Times of Jann Wenner and Rolling Stone) Diksha Basu (author of Destination Wedding) Qian Julie Wang (NYT's bestselling author of Beautiful Country) Tod Goldberg (NYT's bestselling author of Gangster Nation) Gabe Hudson is the award-winning author of 2 books published from Knopf. His honors include being named one of Granta's “Best of Young American Novelists,” PEN/Hemingway Award Finalist, the Hodder Fellowship from Princeton University, the John Hawkes Prize in Fiction from Brown University, a fellowship from Humanities War & Peace Initiative at Columbia University, and Sue Kaufman Prize from the American Academy of Arts and Letters. His writing has appeared in Granta, The New Yorker, The Believer, McSweeney's, and The New York Times Magazine. He was Editor-at-Large for McSweeney's for 10+ years. He served in the Marine Corps. He taught at Princeton University, and currently teaches at Columbia University.   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Stephanie Land didn't take the traditional path to writing a New York Times Bestselling memoir (MAID: Hard Work, Low Pay, and a Mother's Will to Survive). And she didn't take the traditional path to having her memoir be adapted into a Netflix Emmy-nominated series (MAID). Stephanie and Gabe talk about her struggles as a single mother living in public housing with two children and her determination to become a writer. Produced by Lit Hub Visit Stephanie Land's website and follow her on Twitter and Instagram Buy Stephanie's nonfiction book Maid: Hard Work, Low Pay, and a Mother's Will to Survive Read about Stephanie in New York Times Watch Stephanie on YouTube More episode resources and links Subscribe to Twitter Verse Rate/Review Twitter Verse Email Gabe Hudson: gabehudsonsays@gmail.com Follow Gabe on Twitter and Instagram Other episodes you may enjoy: Merve Emre (contributing writer at The New Yorker) Tressie McMillan Cottom (NYT's columnist) Charles Yu (National Book Award Winner) Nana Kwame Adjei-Brenyah (NYT's bestselling author of Friday Black) Joe Hagan (author of Sticky Fingers: the Life and Times of Jann Wenner and Rolling Stone) About the Host: Gabe Hudson is the author of 2 books published from Knopf. His honors include being named one of Granta's “Best of Young American Novelists,” PEN/Hemingway Award Finalist, the Hodder Fellowship from Princeton University, the John Hawkes Prize in Fiction from Brown University, a fellowship from Humanities War & Peace Initiative at Columbia University, and Sue Kaufman Prize from the American Academy of Arts and Letters. His writing has appeared in Granta, The New Yorker, The Believer, McSweeney's, and The New York Times Magazine. He was Editor-at-Large for McSweeney's for 10+ years. He served in the Marine Corps. He teaches at Columbia University.   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Charles Yu is an author who has won the National Book Award. He's also a screenwriter who has written for Westworld. Charles gets real about the surge in hate crimes against Asian Americans in recent years and the psychic toll these attacks have had. Charles explains why it feels like something in our society is either broken or it was always there and has just been recently revealed. And how is the adaptation of Charles' novel Interior Chinatown (for Hulu) coming along? Visit Charles Yu's website and follow him on Twitter Buy Charle's novel Interior Chinatown Read about Charles in New York Times Watch Charles on The Daily Show More episode resources and links Email Gabe Hudson: gabehudsonsays@gmail.com Follow Gabe on Twitter and Instagram Other episodes you may enjoy: Tressie McMillan Cottom (NYT's columnist) Merve Emre (contributing writer at The New Yorker) Nana Kwame Adjei-Brenyah (NYT's bestselling author of Friday Black) Stephanie Land (NYT's bestselling author of Maid) Qian Julie Wang (NYT's bestselling author of Beautiful Country) Rebecca Makkai (author of The Great Believers) About the Host Gabe Hudson: Gabe Hudson is the award-winning author of 2 books published from Knopf. His honors include being named one of Granta's “Best of Young American Novelists,” PEN/Hemingway Award Finalist, the Hodder Fellowship from Princeton University, the John Hawkes Prize in Fiction from Brown University, a fellowship from Humanities War & Peace Initiative at Columbia University, and Sue Kaufman Prize from the American Academy of Arts and Letters. His writing has appeared in Granta, The New Yorker, The Believer, McSweeney's, and The New York Times Magazine. He was Editor-at-Large for McSweeney's for 10+ years. He served in the Marine Corps. He teaches at Columbia University.   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Bethanne Patrick is a renowned book critic, host of the podcast Missing Pages, and author of the forthcoming memoir Life B: Overcoming Double Depression. Her work appears frequently in the Los Angeles Times, The Washington Post, NPR Books, and she sits on the board of the PEN/Faulkner Foundation. Bethanne talks about overcoming her lifelong struggle with "double depression" and her dog Molly Bloom's "resting schnauzer face." Bethanne also tells Gabe what she loves about the writing community on Twitter. Visit Bethanne Patrick's website and follow her on Twitter and Instagram Buy Bethanne's memoir Plan B: Overcoming Double Depression Listen to Bethanne on Missing Pages Read Bethanne in Washington Post Watch Bethanne on YouTube Email Gabe Hudson: gabehudsonsays@gmail.com Follow Gabe on Twitter and Instagram Other episodes you may enjoy: Tressie McMillan Cottom (NYT's columnist) Merve Emre (contributing writer at The New Yorker) Charles Yu (National Book Award Winner) Rebecca Makkai (author of The Great Believers) About the Host: Gabe Hudson is the author of 2 books published from Knopf. His honors include being named one of Granta's “Best of Young American Novelists,” PEN/Hemingway Award Finalist, the Hodder Fellowship from Princeton University, the John Hawkes Prize in Fiction from Brown University, a fellowship from Humanities War & Peace Initiative at Columbia University, and Sue Kaufman Prize from the American Academy of Arts and Letters. His writing has appeared in Granta, The New Yorker, The Believer, McSweeney's, and The New York Times Magazine. He was Editor-at-Large for McSweeney's for 10+ years. He served in the Marine Corps. He teaches at Columbia University.   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Rafia Zakaria is the Pakistani-American author of Against White Feminism, a columnist for The Baffler, and a human rights lawyer. She's also a former Director of Amnesty International. Rafia explains what happened when she wrote a column in The Baffler about how the New York Time's podcast Caliphate was filled with lies. Rafia and Gabe also talk about Angelina Jolie's activist posts on Instagram. Visit Rafia Zakaria's website and follow her on Twitter and Instagram Buy Rafia's nonfiction book Against White Feminism Read Rafia at The Baffler Read about Rafia in New York Times Watch Rafia on Democracy Now More episode resources and links Email Gabe Hudson: gabehudsonsays@gmail.com Follow Gabe on Twitter and Instagram Other episodes you may enjoy: Elizabeth McCracken (author of The Hero of This Book) Tressie McMillan Cottom (NYT's columnist) Merve Emre (contributing writer at The New Yorker) Charles Yu (National Book Award Winner) About the Host: Gabe Hudson is the author of 2 books published from Knopf. His honors include being named one of Granta's “Best of Young American Novelists,” PEN/Hemingway Award Finalist, the Hodder Fellowship from Princeton University, the John Hawkes Prize in Fiction from Brown University, a fellowship from Humanities War & Peace Initiative at Columbia University, and Sue Kaufman Prize from the American Academy of Arts and Letters. His writing has appeared in Granta, The New Yorker, The Believer, McSweeney's, and The New York Times Magazine. He was Editor-at-Large for McSweeney's for 10+ years. He served in the Marine Corps. He teaches at Columbia University.   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Elizabeth McCracken is the James A. Michener chaired professor in creative writing at the University of Texas at Austin and the award-winning author of 8 books. Her most recent novel The Hero of This Book was just named one of the 10 Best Books of 2022 by Time Magazine and People Magazine. Elizabeth tells the story of how the dedication page for her most recent novel just showed up in the mail one day. She talks about the time she flew from Provincetown to Austin with a salami in her pocket and the role that Twitter plays in her life. Visit Elizabeth McCracken's website and follow her on Twitter and Instagram  But Elizabeth's novel The Hero of This Book Watch Elizabeth on PBS NewsHour Read about Elizabeth in New York Times More episodes resources and links Email Gabe Hudson: gabehudsonsays@gmail.com Follow Gabe on Twitter and Instagram Other episodes you may enjoy: Tressie McMillan Cottom (NYT's columnist) Merve Emre (contributing writer at The New Yorker) Charles Yu (National Book Award Winner) Stephanie Land (NYT's bestselling author of Maid) About the Host: Gabe Hudson is the author of 2 books published from Knopf. His honors include being named one of Granta's “Best of Young American Novelists,” PEN/Hemingway Award Finalist, the Hodder Fellowship from Princeton University, the John Hawkes Prize in Fiction from Brown University, a fellowship from Humanities War & Peace Initiative at Columbia University, and Sue Kaufman Prize from the American Academy of Arts and Letters. His writing has appeared in Granta, The New Yorker, The Believer, McSweeney's, and The New York Times Magazine. He was Editor-at-Large for McSweeney's for 10+ years. He served in the Marine Corps. He teaches at Columbia University.   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Keri Blakinger is the author of Corrections in Ink and an award-winning journalist at The Marshall Project. As a student at Cornell University in 2010, Keri was arrested in Ithaca for possession of heroin. She was sentenced to two and a half years in prison, after which she became an award-winning journalist who covers death row in the Texas prison system. Keri describes what it felt like to see her book on the shelf at The Harvard Coop Bookstore, where as an unhoused person she used to steal books in order to fund her heroin addiction. Visit Keri Blakinger's website and follow her on Twitter and Instagram But Keri's memoir Corrections in Ink Watch Keri on YouTube Read Keri in New York Times Read Keri in Los Angeles Times More episode resources and links Email Gabe Hudson: gabehudsonsays@gmail.com Follow Gabe on Twitter and Instagram Other episodes you may enjoy: Tressie McMillan Cottom (NYT's columnist) Merve Emre (contributing writer at The New Yorker) Charles Yu (National Book Award Winner) Stephanie Land (NYT's bestselling author of Maid) About the Host: Gabe Hudson is the author of 2 books published from Knopf. His honors include being named one of Granta's “Best of Young American Novelists,” PEN/Hemingway Award Finalist, the Hodder Fellowship from Princeton University, the John Hawkes Prize in Fiction from Brown University, a fellowship from Humanities War & Peace Initiative at Columbia University, and Sue Kaufman Prize from the American Academy of Arts and Letters. His writing has appeared in Granta, The New Yorker, The Believer, McSweeney's, and The New York Times Magazine. He was Editor-at-Large for McSweeney's for 10+ years. He served in the Marine Corps. He teaches at Columbia University.   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Melissa Lozada-Oliva is a young Latina superstar novelist and poet whose debut novel recently appeared on a billboard in Times Square. Melissa and Gabe talk about why West Side Story is so relatable for lonely Latinas who obsess over mediocre white guys. Melissa explains why every single woman writer need a big yellow couch. And what happened when Melissa ordered a yellow couch from the internet? Visit Melissa Lozada-Oliva's website and follow her on Twitter and Instagram Buy Melissa's book Dreaming of You Listen to Melissa on Say More Watch Melissa on YouTube More episode resources and links Email Gabe Hudson: gabehudsonsays@gmail.com Follow Gabe on Twitter and Instagram Other episodes you may enjoy: Tressie McMillan Cottom (NYT's columnist) Merve Emre (contributing writer at The New Yorker) Charles Yu (National Book Award Winner) Nana Kwame Adjei-Brenyah (NYT's bestselling author of Friday Black) About the Host: Gabe Hudson is the author of 2 books published from Knopf. His honors include being named one of Granta's “Best of Young American Novelists,” PEN/Hemingway Award Finalist, the Hodder Fellowship from Princeton University, the John Hawkes Prize in Fiction from Brown University, a fellowship from Humanities War & Peace Initiative at Columbia University, and Sue Kaufman Prize from the American Academy of Arts and Letters. His writing has appeared in Granta, The New Yorker, The Believer, McSweeney's, and The New York Times Magazine. He was Editor-at-Large for McSweeney's for 10+ years. He served in the Marine Corps. He teaches at Columbia University.   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Tod Goldberg is the New York Times Bestselling author of over a dozen books and a beloved citizen of Literary Twitter. He is also the Director of the MFA program at the University of California, Riverside. Tod tells Gabe about what his grandfather, who just barely survived the pogroms in Ukraine, taught him about being Jewish. This interview is a portrait of the writer as a wild big-hearted force of nature. Visit Tod's website and follow him on Twitter and Instagram Buy Tod's novel Gangster Nation Read Tod Goldberg in Los Angeles Times Watch Tod on YouTube More episode resources and links Email Gabe Hudson: gabehudsonsays@gmail.com Follow Gabe on Twitter and Instagram Other episodes you may enjoy: Rebecca Makkai (author of The Great Believers) Tressie McMillan Cottom (NYT's columnist) Merve Emre (contributing writer at The New Yorker) Charles Yu (National Book Award Winner) About the Host: Gabe Hudson is the author of 2 books published from Knopf. His honors include being named one of Granta's “Best of Young American Novelists,” PEN/Hemingway Award Finalist, the Hodder Fellowship from Princeton University, the John Hawkes Prize in Fiction from Brown University, a fellowship from Humanities War & Peace Initiative at Columbia University, and Sue Kaufman Prize from the American Academy of Arts and Letters. His writing has appeared in Granta, The New Yorker, The Believer, McSweeney's, and The New York Times Magazine. He was Editor-at-Large for McSweeney's for 10+ years. He served in the Marine Corps. He teaches at Columbia University.   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Soraya Nadia McDonald is the senior cultural critic for Andscape (formerly known as The Undefeated). She won the George Jean Nathan Prize for dramatic criticism, was a finalist for the Pulitzer Prize in criticism. Soraya tells Gabe about her decision to go public with her cancer diagnosis and the bond she formed with her Twitter followers who are cancer survivors. Soraya also talks about Aretha Franklin's powerful artistry and how Aretha went from feeling like a revered celebrity to a family member. Read Soraya Nadia McDonald on Andscape Visit Soraya's website and follow her on Twitter and Instagram Watch Soraya on YouTube More episode resources and links Email Gabe Hudson: gabehudsonsays@gmail.com Follow Gabe on Twitter and Instagram Other episodes you may enjoy: Tressie McMillan Cottom (NYT's columnist) Merve Emre (contributing writer at The New Yorker) Charles Yu (National Book Award Winner) Nana Kwame Adjei-Brenyah (NYT's bestselling author of Friday Black) Stephanie Land (NYT's bestselling author of Maid) About the Host: Gabe Hudson is the author of 2 books published from Knopf. His honors include being named one of Granta's “Best of Young American Novelists,” PEN/Hemingway Award Finalist, the Hodder Fellowship from Princeton University, the John Hawkes Prize in Fiction from Brown University, a fellowship from Humanities War & Peace Initiative at Columbia University, and Sue Kaufman Prize from the American Academy of Arts and Letters. His writing has appeared in Granta, The New Yorker, The Believer, McSweeney's, and The New York Times Magazine. He was Editor-at-Large for McSweeney's for 10+ years. He served in the Marine Corps. He teaches at Columbia University.   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Diksha Basu is an award-winning novelist and journalist. Diksha generously cracks open her heart open so that she and Gabe can carefully examine the contents therein. And what they find is her fabulous grandmother as well as her squad of powerful and hilarious aunts: these women in Delhi have not just shaped who Diksha is but have armed her with invaluable tools to contend with the messiness of life. Read Diksha Basu in New York Times Follow Diksha on Twitter and Instagram Buy Diksha's novel Destination Wedding Watch Diksha on YouTube More episode resources and links Email Gabe Hudson: gabehudsonsays@gmail.com Follow Gabe on Twitter and Instagram Other episodes you may enjoy: Charles Yu (National Book Award Winner) Tressie McMillan Cottom (NYT's columnist) Merve Emre (contributing writer at The New Yorker) Elizabeth McCracken (author of The Hero of This Book) About the Host: Gabe Hudson is the author of 2 books published from Knopf. His honors include being named one of Granta's “Best of Young American Novelists,” PEN/Hemingway Award Finalist, the Hodder Fellowship from Princeton University, the John Hawkes Prize in Fiction from Brown University, a fellowship from Humanities War & Peace Initiative at Columbia University, and Sue Kaufman Prize from the American Academy of Arts and Letters. His writing has appeared in Granta, The New Yorker, The Believer, McSweeney's, and The New York Times Magazine. He was Editor-at-Large for McSweeney's for 10+ years. He served in the Marine Corps. He teaches at Columbia University.   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Joe Hagan is cohost of Vanity Fair's podcast Inside the Hive the author of the culture defining book Sticky Fingers: The Life and Times of Jann Wenner and Rolling Stone. Joe is a special correspondent for Vanity Fair. He has written in depth about some of the most significant figures of our time, including Beto O'Rourke, Hillary Clinton, the Bush family, Karl Rove, Henry Kissinger, and Dan Rather. This episode has big Gen X energy like you wouldn't believe. Read Joe Hagan at Vanity Fair Listen to Joe on Inside the Hive Visit Joe Hagan's website and follow him on Twitter and Instagram Buy Joe Hagan's nonfiction book Sticky Fingers: the Life and Times of Jann Wenner and Rolling Stone Magazine Watch Joe on CBS Mornings More episode resources and links Email Gabe Hudson: gabehudsonsays@gmail.com Follow Gabe on Twitter and Instagram Other episodes you may enjoy: Rebecca Makkai (author of The Great Believers) Tressie McMillan Cottom (NYT's columnist) Merve Emre (contributing writer at The New Yorker) Charles Yu (National Book Award Winner) About the Host: Gabe Hudson is the author of 2 books published from Knopf. His honors include being named one of Granta's “Best of Young American Novelists,” PEN/Hemingway Award Finalist, the Hodder Fellowship from Princeton University, the John Hawkes Prize in Fiction from Brown University, a fellowship from Humanities War & Peace Initiative at Columbia University, and Sue Kaufman Prize from the American Academy of Arts and Letters. His writing has appeared in Granta, The New Yorker, The Believer, McSweeney's, and The New York Times Magazine. He was Editor-at-Large for McSweeney's for 10+ years. He served in the Marine Corps. He teaches at Columbia University.   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Stephanie Land didn't take the traditional path to writing a New York Times Bestselling memoir MAID: Hard Work, Low Pay, and a Mother's Will to Survive. And she didn't take the traditional path to having her memoir be adapted into a Netflix Emmy-nominated series MAID. Stephanie and Gabe talk about her struggles as a single mother living in public housing with two children and her determination to become a writer. Visit Stephanie Land's website and follow her on Twitter and Instagram Buy Stephanie's nonfiction book Maid: Hard Work, Low Pay, and a Mother's Will to Survive Read about Stephanie in New York Times Watch Stephanie on YouTube More episode resources and links Email Gabe Hudson: gabehudsonsays@gmail.com Follow Gabe on Twitter and Instagram Other episodes you may enjoy: Merve Emre (contributing writer at The New Yorker) Tressie McMillan Cottom (NYT's columnist) Charles Yu (National Book Award Winner) Nana Kwame Adjei-Brenyah (NYT's bestselling author of Friday Black) Rebecca Makkai (author of The Great Believers) About the Host: Gabe Hudson is the award-winning author of 2 books published from Knopf. His honors include being named one of Granta's “Best of Young American Novelists,” PEN/Hemingway Award Finalist, the Hodder Fellowship from Princeton University, the John Hawkes Prize in Fiction from Brown University, a fellowship from Humanities War & Peace Initiative at Columbia University, and Sue Kaufman Prize from the American Academy of Arts and Letters. His writing has appeared in Granta, The New Yorker, The Believer, McSweeney's, and The New York Times Magazine. He was Editor-at-Large for McSweeney's for 10+ years. He served in the Marine Corps. He taught at Princeton University, and currently teaches at Columbia University.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Nana Kwame Adjei-Brenyah is the young New York Times Bestselling author of the story collection Friday Black and Chain Gang All Stars. But what experiences have shaped the brilliant mind behind this cutting edge work of fiction? Nana and Gabe discuss what it was like for him to grow up Ghanian-American with his family in Spring Valley, Rockland County, NY. Nana & Gabe talk about his rapping, including his song Nabokov, which he does on the show and even breaks down his lyrics. Visit Nana Kwame Adjei-Brenyah's website and follow him on Twitter and Instagram Buy Nana's story collection Friday Black Read about Nana in New York Times Watch Nana on YouTube More episode resources and links Email Gabe Hudson: gabehudsonsays@gmail.com Follow Gabe on Twitter and Instagram Other episodes you may enjoy: Elizabeth McCracken (author of The Hero of This Book) Rafia Zakaria (author of Against White Feminism) Rebecca Makkai (author of The Great Believers) Tressie McMillan Cottom (NYT's columnist) Merve Emre (contributing writer at The New Yorker) Charles Yu (National Book Award Winner) About the Host: Gabe Hudson is the award-winning author of 2 books published from Knopf. His honors include being named one of Granta's “Best of Young American Novelists,” PEN/Hemingway Award Finalist, the Hodder Fellowship from Princeton University, the John Hawkes Prize in Fiction from Brown University, a fellowship from Humanities War & Peace Initiative at Columbia University, and Sue Kaufman Prize from the American Academy of Arts and Letters. His writing has appeared in Granta, The New Yorker, The Believer, McSweeney's, and The New York Times Magazine. He was Editor-at-Large for McSweeney's for 10+ years. He served in the Marine Corps. He teaches at Columbia University.   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Merve Emre is a contributing writer to The New Yorker, the author of many award-winning books, and a professor at the University of Oxford. Merve and Gabe chop it up about Merve's journey from Turkey to Brooklyn as a young child. What was it like for her family to live in Park Slope in the early 90's? How did she break her arm that one time as a kid, and how does that event inform who she is today? Read Merve Emre at The New Yorker Visit Merve's website and follow her on Twitter Buy Merve's nonfiction book The Personality Brokers Watch Merve on YouTube Read about Merve at The New York Review of Books More episode sources and links Email Gabe Hudson: gabehudsonsays@gmail.com Follow Gabe on Twitter and Instagram Other episodes you may enjoy: Charles Yu (National Book Award Winner) Nana Kwame Adjei-Brenyah (NYT's bestselling author of Friday Black) Stephanie Land (NYT's bestselling author of Maid) Joe Hagan (author of Sticky Fingers: the Life and Times of Jann Wenner and Rolling Stone) Tressie McMillan Cottom (NYT's columnist) About the Host Gabe Hudson: Gabe Hudson is the author of 2 books published from Knopf. His honors include being named one of Granta's “Best of Young American Novelists,” PEN/Hemingway Award Finalist, the Hodder Fellowship from Princeton University, the John Hawkes Prize in Fiction from Brown University, a fellowship from Humanities War & Peace Initiative at Columbia University, and Sue Kaufman Prize from the American Academy of Arts and Letters. His writing has appeared in Granta, The New Yorker, The Believer, McSweeney's, and The New York Times Magazine. He was Editor-at-Large for McSweeney's for 10+ years. He served in the Marine Corps. He teaches at Columbia University.   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Tressie McMillan Cottom is the author of Thick and Other Essays, a columnist for the New York Times, a professor at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, and a 2020 McArthur Fellow. Tressie talks to Gabe about the kind of freedom she wants for all Black women. And how her mother was a member of the Black Panther Party. We learn about Tressie's 18 stages of essay writing. And why are white audiences more comfortable thinking about Black people in a historical context? Visit Tressie McMillan Cottom's website and follow her on Twitter and Instagram Read Tressie's column in New York Times Buy Tressie's nonfiction book Thick and Other Essays Watch Tressie on The Daily Show More episode resources and links Email Gabe Hudson: gabehudsonsays@gmail.com Follow Gabe on Twitter and Instagram Other episodes you may enjoy: Merve Emre (contributing writer at The New Yorker) Charles Yu (National Book Award Winner) Nana Kwame Adjei-Brenyah (NYT's bestselling author of Friday Black) Stephanie Land (NYT's bestselling author of Maid) Rebecca Makkai (author of The Great Believers) About the Host: Gabe Hudson is the award-winning author of 2 books published from Knopf. His honors include being named one of Granta's “Best of Young American Novelists,” PEN/Hemingway Award Finalist, the Hodder Fellowship from Princeton University, the John Hawkes Prize in Fiction from Brown University, a fellowship from Humanities War & Peace Initiative at Columbia University, and Sue Kaufman Prize from the American Academy of Arts and Letters. His writing has appeared in Granta, The New Yorker, The Believer, McSweeney's, and The New York Times Magazine. He was Editor-at-Large for McSweeney's for 10+ years. He served in the Marine Corps. He teaches at Columbia University.   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Molly Jong-Fast is a correspondent for Vanity Fair and host of the podcast Fast Politics. Molly sits down with Gabe to tell him what it felt like to do battle with Elon Musk out on the timeline. Molly explains why she loves Twitter and how she used it to sting Bill Maher. She gets into why a Tucker Carlson presidency is the ultimate doomsday scenario. And why does Molly think that Jon Stewart might be the only one who can stop Tucker Carlson? Read Molly Jong-Fast at Vanity Fair Listen to Molly's podcast Fast Politics Follow Molly on Twitter and Instagram Watch Molly on MSNBC Read about Molly in New York Times More episode sources and links Email Gabe Hudson: gabehudsonsays@gmail.com Follow Gabe on Twitter and Instagram Other episodes you may enjoy: Tressie McMillan Cottom (NYT's columnist) Merve Emre (contributing writer at The New Yorker) Charles Yu (National Book Award Winner) Elizabeth McCracken (author of The Hero of This Book) About the Host Gabe Hudson: Gabe Hudson is the award-winning author of 2 books published from Knopf. His honors include being named one of Granta's “Best of Young American Novelists,” PEN/Hemingway Award Finalist, the Hodder Fellowship from Princeton University, the John Hawkes Prize in Fiction from Brown University, a fellowship from Humanities War & Peace Initiative at Columbia University, and Sue Kaufman Prize from the American Academy of Arts and Letters. His writing has appeared in Granta, The New Yorker, The Believer, McSweeney's, and The New York Times Magazine. He was Editor-at-Large for McSweeney's for 10+ years. He served in the Marine Corps. He teaches at Columbia University.   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices