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Every week on “Big Tobacco Messed with the Wrong Moms”, hosts Meredith Berkman and Dorian Fuhrman, two of PAVe’s co-founders, will discuss the youth vaping epidemic, sharing important information about everything from serious health risks to quitting resources. Moderating important conversations with top public-health experts, these MOMvocates will speak directly to parents and other key stakeholders across the country, empowering them to join the fight to keep our kids from becoming an entire generation of nicotine addicts.

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    Episode 033: Sara's Story: A PAVe pediatrician shares her struggle with her own child's nicotine addiction

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 11, 2022 21:14


    This week's episode highlights Sara, a New York State pediatrician who has been fighting the tobacco industry's targeting of teens on multiple fronts: as a doctor seeking to protect her patients; as a PAVe volunteer warning other parents; and, most importantly, as a mom desperate to help her college-age son quit vaping. 

    Episode 032: The Evil Genius behind menthol addiction

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 5, 2021 13:16


    Decades ago, tobacco Industry research  revealed that menthol amplifies nicotine addiction, especially in African Americans; the more melanin in a smoker's skin,  the greater menthol's impact. Armed with this knowledge, Big Tobacco methodically marketed menthol combustible cigarettes to African Americans; the more melanin in a smoker's skin, the greater menthol's impact.(In 2009, when the federal government banned flavored cigarettes, menthol was the blatant exemption.)Last April, after years of inexplicable delay, a federal lawsuit brought by plaintiffs including the African American Tobacco Control Leadership Council forced FDA to finally announce it would “begin the rule-making process” to end the sale of menthol cigarettes-but that could take years.That's why the Center for Black Health and Equity is fighting deadly menthol tobacco products in real time at community levels across the country. In this week's episode we interview the Center's Greg Bolden about the No Menthol Movement in Atlanta; local partner D'Jillisser Kelly of the H.E.A.R.T coalition will discuss on-the-ground efforts including the Great American Smokeout on November 18th.

    Episode 031: Back to school, not back to J---L

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 3, 2021 20:53


    This is the last chance for parents to make our voices heard before FDA rules on JUUL!Between now and September 9th the agency must decide whether or not to approve Juul and any flavored e-cigarette. Over the last several weeks, over two thousand parents have signed our letter urging FDA to deny all applications for these dangerous products. In this week's podcast episode, part of our “Back to school, not back to Juul” campaign, we interview Dr. Rachel Boykan, Clinical Professor, of Pediatrics at the Renaissance School of Medicine at Stony Brook University who explains why she believes FDA must act NOW against flavored e-cigarettes that have already caused enormous harm to millions of kids. 

    Episode 030: Writing “The Devil's Playbook”: Author Lauren Etter on her behind-the-scenes look at JUUL

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 9, 2021 25:37


    On today's episode, Bloomberg News investigative reporter Lauren Etter discusses “The Devil's Playbook: Big Tobacco, Juul, and the Addiction of a New Generation”. With FDA poised to rule on JUUL's applications for its menthol and tobacco flavored products, Etter's new book provides a deep dive into how the collision of Silicon Valley values and the industry's predatory behavior created an adolescent public-health crisis that could impact our kids for years to come. Says Etter, a mom of three young children, “If a (JUUL) representative had come into my kids' school, I'd be pissed.”FDA could formally approve a menthol JUUL at any moment. The time to make our voices heard is NOW.Our message to FDA must be loud and clear: Don't let JUUL get away with it.Menthol is not only preferred by nearly 40% of youth who vape, but it also makes it easier to get addicted and harder to quit. If we're going to protect kids from flavored e-cigarettes, menthol is no exception.Add your name to send letter: www.parentsagainstvaping.org/fda-menthol

    Big Tobacco Episode 029: Paula’s story: Losing a child to vaping

    Play Episode Listen Later May 10, 2021 23:33


    In 2016, Paula’s son Walter had just started high school in Delaware when a friend offered him a cool-looking flavored e-cigarette that had just come on the market: a JUUL. Walter, a twin, and one of Paula’s four children, was almost immediately addicted, often vaping multiple mango or menthol JUUL pods every day.  Walter’s asthma, largely under control since childhood, returned with a vengeance:  the more Walter vaped, the more severe his asthma attacks.  The final attack led to Walter’s death in September 2020, just a few days before his 20th birthday.Tune in to this week’s episode to hear why Paula believes that publicly sharing her family’s tragedy will protect others--and is the most powerful way to fight back against an industry preying on teens.

    Episode 028: Kathy’s Story: A Connecticut Mom’s Fight to Save her Son

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 15, 2021 21:23


    On this week’s episode, we hear the story of a Connecticut mom struggling to save her son from his nicotine addiction as a result of flavored e-cigarette products. Kathy from Connecticut’s story shows us that we are not alone and when we stand up and fight back against Big Tobacco, just how powerful we can all be.

    Big Tobacco Episode 027: A CongressMOM Fights Back

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 1, 2021 17:37


    On this week’s episode, Congresswoman Lisa Blunt Rochester of Delaware, author of the Quit Because of COVID-19 Act to expand Medicaid coverage for tobacco-cessation during the pandemic, explains that her passion on this issue is personal. A Former CEO of the Urban League and mother of two, Blunt Rochester blames the industry’s glamorizing of smoking--the Virginia Slims ads and Newport KOOL concerts she recalls from when she was young--for leading family members to a lifetime of nicotine addiction. Now she sees similar tactics being deployed to hook a new generation through flavored nicotine products.

    Episode 026 : A Native American Mom’s Fight to Protect Her Community

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 8, 2021 22:50


    On this week’s episode, Rae O’Leary, a member of the Turtle Mountain Band of Chippewa, describes how JUUL representatives offered hundreds of thousands of dollars and free products to hook her tribe on what they falsely described as “smoking cessation” products. In 2019, O’Leary, who leads public-health initiatives for Missouri Breaks in Eagle Butte, South Dakota on the Cheyenne River Sioux Reservation, testified about this meeting at the Congressional hearing investigating JUUL’s marketing to teens. (In fact, that’s where we “wrong moms” met.) Hear, this tobacco-control educator and advocate--whose leadership led her tribal council to pass one of the strongest smoke-free air policies in Indian country--share her community’s historic struggle to fight Big Tobacco’s predatory behavior, especially towards Native American teens.

    Episode 025 : The Truth about getting your kid to quit

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 26, 2021 29:42


    On this week’s episode, Truth Initiative CEO and President Robin Koval explains why our kids tune us out but listen to a total stranger--as long as it’s a fellow teen. Truth has mastered the essential art of peer-to-peer messaging, and that’s why the new #quitwithus social-media campaign is going viral. Learn how you can access important resources like “This is Quitting”, a texting tool written in an authentic teen voice, and a “cool” school curriculum that can inspire your kid to kick the e-cig habit.

    Episode 024 : Get Your Head Out of the Clouds

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 21, 2020 17:36


    In this week’s episode, American Lung Association National President and CEO Harold Wimmer and Chief Marketing Officer Julia Fitzgerald introduce the organization’s parent-focused initiative encouraging adults to discuss the dangers of vaping with younger children. We love the “Get Your Head Out of the Clouds” campaign (talkaboutvaping.org) --created in partnership with the Ad Council--gently spoofing parents’ misinformation about e-cigarettes and the all-too-familiar reluctance to believe that their own kids might be vaping.

    Episode 023: Bloomberg’s Next Chapter in the Battle Against Big Tobacco

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 30, 2020 15:50


    In this week’s episode, Dr. Kelly Henning, public-health lead of Bloomberg Philanthropies, explains why Mayor Michael Bloomberg, a tobacco-control pioneer, views banning flavored e-cigarettes--and protecting kids from a lifetime of nicotine addiction--as essential to the ongoing campaign to end the industry’s predatory behavior.

    Episode 022: Unexpected ally - A small business owner stands up to Big Tobacco

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 16, 2020 12:54


    On this week’s episode, we interview a small-business owner taking on Big Tobacco. Mitch Bradley of Heebs East Main Grocery in Bozeman, Montana has stopped selling tobacco products in order to fight the industry’s predatory behavior toward teens-even though he feared his decision could hurt his bottom line. (We’re pleased to report it did not.) Inspired by his father’s health battles after a lifetime of tobacco use, Bradley has also become a volunteer advocate in the legislative fight to ban flavored tobacco products in his home state. We hope that hearing this story will inspire other retailers to follow Mitch’s bold lead!

    Episode 021: Donna’s Story: A Mom’s Struggle to Save Her Son

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 26, 2020 23:06


    In this week’s episode, PAVe Maryland mom Donna speaks with remarkable candor about the painful discovery that her teenage son Jacob--an honor student and star athlete--had become dependent on flavored e-cigarettes and was severely addicted to nicotine. As her son’s grades plummeted and he developed respiratory problems, Donna pledged to help Jacob fight his addiction, mobilizing support from Jacob’s school, her family’s church, and even Jacob’s friends. As a PAVe advocate, Donna has joined a supportive community of parents using their powerful voices to push for banning flavored e-cigarettes in cities and states across the country--and fighting to keep Big Tobacco away from our kids.

    Episode 020: #Vapes Are Trash!

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 7, 2020 20:58


    In this week’s episode, named for our new #Vapes are Trash campaign, we discuss the environmental harms potentially caused by hazardous e-cigarette waste. Morgan, an 11th grade student, provides details about this Instagram competition developed with our youth initiative Students Against Vaping e-Cigarettes (SAVe) and explains why this issue should resonate with her peers. Share Morgan’s segment with your kids! Our second guest is Dr. Jeremiah Mock, Associate Professor at the University of California, San Francisco, a leading expert on the environmental impact of tobacco products. Dr. Mock explains the dangers posed by rapidly proliferating vaping waste; why companies including Juul, Stig, and Puff Bar should clean up the mess; and what role FDA could have in making sure they do it!

    Episode 019: The Ongoing Youth Vaping Epidemic: Understanding the 2020 National Youth Tobacco Survey (NYTS)

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 15, 2020 15:54


    The Centers for Disease Control (CDC) just released the latest figures about the youth vaping epidemic, the 2020 National Youth Tobacco Survey (NYTS). On today’s episode, Meredith and Dorian discuss how this important federal report contains some promising news: a decline in the number of teens regularly vaping, from 5.4 million to 3.6 million. However, these numbers, a return to 2018 figures, remain at “epidemic” levels, the term used then by FDA and the Surgeon General. The difference now is that these teens report more frequent use, possibly a sign of greater nicotine addiction. We’re also alarmed by a1000% increase in the use of disposable e-cigarettes and a rise in use of menthol-flavored products. That includes menthol JUUL, a flavor for which the company has filed for FDA approval, despite claiming it has abandoned flavors to discourage youth use.

    Episode 018: How to Fight Vaping on Multiple Fronts

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 31, 2020 16:44


    On today’s episode we interview Dr. Eduardo Sanchez, Chief Medical Officer for Prevention at the American Heart Association, about the public health lessons learned from the fight against smoking that can help solve the youth vaping epidemic. Sanchez, a former Texas Health Commissioner and father of four, explains why a multi-pronged approach that simultaneously focuses on identifying treatments for teen nicotine addiction, researching short and long term harms of vaping, and pushing for regulations at the state and federal levels must be the way forward.

    Episode 017: Moms Opposing Menthol

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 23, 2020 19:38


    Dr. Valerie Yerger and Carol McGruder, co-founders of the African American Tobacco Control Leadership Council (savingblacklives.org) have spent years fighting to protect African American kids from menthol cigarettes and the predatory behavior of Big Tobacco. A 2009 federal ban on flavored cigarettes exempted menthol, allowing the industry to continue its decades-long targeting of African American communities with menthol-flavored tobacco products. On today’s episode we have a candid conversation with these courageous moms about the racialized public-health issue of banning menthol-flavored tobacco products, why they joined this fight, the catastrophic consequences these products have had on African American families, and they must be banned immediately.

    Episode 016: BREAKING NEWS - New study first to confirm link between vaping and increased risk of COVID in teens

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 12, 2020 14:12


    We have breaking news about the first confirmed link between vaping and COVID in teens. According to a study published yesterday in the Journal of Adolescent Health by PAVe advisory board member Dr. Bonnie Halpern-Felsher, Professor of Pediatrics at Stanford Medical School, teens who vape are five to seven times more likely to contract COVID. Could this research explain why so many young people have been infected with COVID, in some cases suffering from severe symptoms, a trend that has surprised public-health experts? Should it factor into back-to-school discussions? Please tune in to hear our interview with Dr. Halpern-Felsher and, most importantly, share this crucial information with your kids!

    Episode 015: Big Tobacco Messed with the Wrong U.S. Senator

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 10, 2020 14:23


    Senator Dick Durbin of Illinois, whose father died of lung cancer when Durbin was in high school, has battled Big Tobacco for decades. Twenty-five years ago, after a fateful flight from Phoenix to Chicago, he fought to ban smoking on airplanes, a public-health victory that revolutionized air travel and helped change public perceptions of smoking. Today, Senator Durbin’s battling Big Tobacco’s use of flavored e-cigarettes to addict a new generation to nicotine. In September, after years of delay, FDA will finally begin reviewing thousands of these products that have been allowed to remain on the market illegally. Durbin explains why FDA should ban all flavors, why the agency's regulatory process should be public, and why parents voices matter now more than ever in the ongoing fight to protect our kids from the predatory behavior of Big Tobacco.

    Episode 014: How three moms defeated JUUL in their hometown

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 31, 2020 23:19


    How did three moms defeat JUUL in their hometown in California?On today’s episode we hear the inspiring story of PAVe partners Jannell, Kristie and Paula, the women behind Flavors Addict Kids Livermore. In 2018, as the youth vaping epidemic exploded, these passionate moms-of-teens, furious that local vape shops were selling to minors, took action on the local level, calling for a ban on the sale of all vape devices in Livermore. Then JUUL came to town to take them on. What happened next is a playbook for parents across the country who want to keep Big Tobacco away from our kids!

    Episode 013: Helping schools reclaim their bathrooms

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 24, 2020 12:42


    Have you ever heard your kids refer to the “JUUL room”? While we don’t yet know if and when schools will fully reopen this year, we do know that 1-in-4 high-school kids are vaping, and that the school bathroom has unfortunately become a vaping clubhouse. What are administrators doing to keep kids from using flavored e-cigarettes inside their buildings? On this week’s episode, we learn about vape detectors, innovative devices that schools across the country are installing to take back the bathrooms. In a conversation with Derek Peterson, CEO of Soter Technologies and creator of Fly Sense, we learn how these products work; how early on JUUL sought access to Peterson’s patented technology; and why for this father-of-two the fight against the youth vaping epidemic is personal.

    Episode 012: Why the fight against menthol matters

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 17, 2020 12:32


    On this week’s episode, we interview Dr. Philip Gardner, Co-Chair of the African American Tobacco Control Leadership Council (AATCLC) about Big Tobacco’s historic targeting of African-Americans, his group’s recent landmark lawsuit against FDA, and how parents can join the fight to ban menthol cigarettes.

    Episode 011: When parents lead the charge

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 10, 2020 10:43


    We can win the fight to protect our kids against Big Tobacco when parents lead the charge. On today’s episode we interview Duncan Van Dusen, CEO of CATCH Global Foundation, whose “Catch My Breath” anti-vaping curriculum has reached over one million kids in thousands of schools across the country. Van Dusen explains how parents can advocate for better health and vaping prevention education in our kids’ schools.

    Episode 010: A mother’s worst nightmare

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 3, 2020 21:01


    In August 2019, mom-of-seven Ruby Johnson was driving her eldest child from their home outside Chicago to Colorado, where her daughter Piper would begin her freshman year of college. Suddenly, Piper wasn’t feeling well and started coughing. Within 24 hours, Piper was in the intensive-care unit of a Colorado hospital with a mysterious lung illness.Now PAVe Illinois Advocate Ruby Johnson is on a mission to ensure that no mother has to experience her family’s terrifying medical ordeal. Hear Ruby’s story and how she is fighting back on today’s episode.

    Episode 009: Meet the elected official who kicked JUUL’s butts out of San Francisco

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 26, 2020 18:09


    On today’s episode we meet the elected official who kicked JUUL’s butt out of San Francisco. SF City Attorney Dennis Herrera made clear that if the Federal Government would not act to stop JUUL from addicting a generation of kids, he would. We hear his story and discuss why cities and states must take leadership in the absence of federal guidelines and how parents can make a difference. We CAN win the fight to protect our kids.

    Episode 008: A tobacco-free generation

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 22, 2020 19:16


    On today’s episode we talk about the power of parents as advocates with Matt Myers, President of the Campaign for Tobacco-Free Kids (TFK).Under Myers’ leadership, TFK helped beat back Big Tobacco when the industry used combustible cigarettes to hook kids on nicotine. Now they are using flavored e-cigarettes to addict a new generation. Myers, a leading figure in tobacco control, explains how the current fight to ban flavored products at the state levels may be at a national inflection point and why he believes that parents’ voices speaking out about the youth vaping epidemic could make all the difference.

    Episode 007: How flavors hook our kids

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 12, 2020 15:53


    On today’s episode, we learn more about the science behind e-cigarette dependence and nicotine addiction with Dr. Nora Volkow, M.D., Director of the National Institute on Drug Abuse (NIDA) at the National Institutes of Health. Dr. Volkow, a leading expert on drug use, addiction, and the human brain, explains how and why flavors have been and continue to be a key component in hooking millions of our kids on vaping.

    Episode 006: Nicotine addiction through the eyes of a teen

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 6, 2020 16:08


    On today’s show we interview Luka Kinard, an inspiring 17 year old, and his mother Kelly Kinard from High Point North Carolina, about their struggle with his addiction and how he hopes to help other kids from making the same mistakes he did. Luka got hooked as a freshman in high school. His addiction quickly escalated and led to extreme health consequences and family turmoil. Today, he is no longer using these products thanks to Kelly’s very difficult decision to send him to rehab. Now, Luka travels around the country speaking to other kids about his own personal story.

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    Episode 005: Big Tobacco Messed with the Wrong Congressman

    Play Episode Listen Later May 29, 2020 12:38


    On today’s show, PAVe moms Meredith Berkman and Dorian Fuhrman interview Congressman Raja Krishnamoorthi of Illinois, a leader in the fight against the youth vaping epidemic. As chairman of the House Oversight Subcommittee on Economics and Consumer Policy, Krishnamoorthi has held multiple hearings about JUUL (and other e-cigarette companies), holding them publicly accountable for preying on minors and breaking FDA regulations. Krishnamoorthi, who has called on FDA to remove all e-cigarettes from the market during the pandemic, is now going after Puff Bar, the new JUUL.

    Episode 004: Big Tobacco’s Playbook / Is Puff Bar the new JUUL?

    Play Episode Listen Later May 22, 2020 13:53


    On today’s show, PAVe moms Meredith Berkman and Dorian Fuhrman discuss with Stanford’s Dr. Robert Jackler, an expert in tobacco advertising and its social impact, how JUUL repurposed Big Tobacco’s marketing playbook for the social-media generation. We also learn how Puff Bar--among the most popular of the disposable flavored e-cigarettes that are the new teen favorites--has taken JUUL’s playbook and changed the game.

    Episode 003: How should you talk to your kids about risky behavior which leads to nicotine addiction?

    Play Episode Listen Later May 15, 2020 14:09


    How should you talk to your kids about risky behavior which leads to nicotine addiction? Tune into today’s show for information every parent can use.On this week’s episode, PAVe moms Meredith Berkman and Dorian Fuhrman learn tips from Dr. Jonathan Avery, Director of Addiction Psychiatry and an Associate Professor of Clinical Psychiatry at Weill Cornell Medical College and New York-Presbyterian Hospital.We discuss the best ways for parents to broach the topic, the brain science behind teen nicotine addiction, and why flavored e-cigarettes like JUUL and others were able to get our kids so hooked so fast.

    Episode 002: How did JUUL use flavors to hook our kids?

    Play Episode Listen Later May 8, 2020 14:43


    How did JUUL use flavors hook to our kids? On today’s show, PAVe moms Meredith Berkman and Dorian Fuhrman discuss the origins of the youth vaping epidemic with Dr. Bonnie Halpern-Felsher of Stanford University. A leading expert in the field of tobacco-control and a fierce anti-vaping advocate, Halpern-Felsher was among the first to publish research about JUUL’s use of flavors to attract teens. She is also the executive director and author of Stanford’s Tobacco Prevention Toolkit, a free online curriculum that has been used by thousands of schools across the country.

    Episode 001 - Big Tobacco Messed with the Wrong Moms

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 29, 2020 13:49


    Founded in 2018 by three moms, Parents Against Vaping e-cigarettes (PAVe) is a national grassroots organization powered by parent volunteers fighting to protect kids from the dangers of flavored e-cigarettes and the predatory practices of Big Tobacco. Every week on “Big Tobacco Messed with the Wrong Moms”, hosts Meredith Berkman and Dorian Fuhrman, two of PAVe’s co-founders, will discuss the youth vaping epidemic, sharing important information about everything from serious health risks to quitting resources. Moderating important conversations with top public-health experts, these MOMvocates will speak directly to parents and other key stakeholders across the country, empowering them to join the fight to keep our kids from becoming an entire generation of nicotine addicts.

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