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    Thirty years of dance for Black Grace

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 31, 2025 24:47


    As this unique Kiwi group celebrates a big anniversary, it's balancing its creative vision with a tight budget and an agile approach - on and off stageGo to this episode on rnz.co.nz for more details

    Rugby's big gamble in the US

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 30, 2025 21:37


    The US isn't known for its rugby prowess, or interest - so when the All Blacks take on Ireland this weekend, they're playing to sell a vision The All Blacks take on Ireland in Chicago on Sunday morning in what will be a test run for America's Rugby World Cup dreamGuest:Jamie Wall - RNZ Sports Reporter Find The Detail on Newsroom or RNZ Go to this episode on rnz.co.nz for more details

    A spotlight on aging

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 29, 2025 21:23


    The aged care sector has had enough of reports describing all its many problems - and hopes a new Ministerial Advisory Group will provide some solutionsIt's hoped a Ministerial Advisory Group on aged care can get all the players in the same room to thrash out an answer on how to best deal with a tsunami of aging peopleGuest: Tracey Martin - New Zealand Aged Care Association chief executiveLearn more:Read the government's press released on aged care hereFind The Detail on Newsroom or RNZ Go to this episode on rnz.co.nz for more details

    Border patrols for child predators

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 28, 2025 21:54


    The amount of child sexual abuse material entering New Zealand is increasing and getting 'more violent' - and the Customs team managing it can't keep upThe Child Exploitation Operations Team is on the front lines, finding and catching those in the trade of child sexual abuse material. The Detail gets an inside look at the growing issue and what's being done to tackle it.Guest: Simon Peterson - Chief Customs Officer, Child Exploitation Operations TeamLearn more:Watch Unmasking Monsters - TVNZ documentary about the COET team - hereFind The Detail on Newsroom or RNZ Go to this episode on rnz.co.nz for more details

    Taking the political temperature, a year from the vote

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 27, 2025 23:53


    With just twelve months until the next election, the mood of the nation is "one of disillusionment", and that's reflected in the pollsWith a year to go until the next election, the government is under polling pressure with whispers the Prime Minister could be rolled, and the opposition still finding its voiceGuest:Guyon Espiner - RNZ Investigative JournalistFind The Detail on Newsroom or RNZ Go to this episode on rnz.co.nz for more details

    Auckland museum checks the locks

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 24, 2025 23:00


    When there's a successful jewel heist such as the Louvre break-in, museum directors around the world take another look at their own patches. Auckland is no exception. Auckland War Memorial Museum might not be dripping in stunning jewellery, but it still contains priceless artifacts that need protectingGuest: David Reeves - Auckland War Memorial Museum Chief Executive The film clips used in this podcast were from Entrapment (1999) Ocean's 11 (2001) Mission: Impossible (1996) The Thomas Crown Affair (1999).Find The Detail on Newsroom or RNZ Go to this episode on rnz.co.nz for more details

    Bothered, buggered and burnt out

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 23, 2025 23:36


    A combination of job insecurity, tight economic times and a pressure to always be on the clock is resulting in a burnt out workforceBurnout is increasingly becoming the norm, with a multitude of factors pushing New Zealanders across the country to breaking point. But one expert says the tide is changing with a new generation entering the workforce.Guest:Dougal Sutherland - Principal psychologist at Umbrella wellbeingGeorgi Toma - Founder of Heart and Brain WorksLearn more:Read Massey University's press release about their study on workplace burnout hereFind The Detail on Newsroom or RNZ Go to this episode on rnz.co.nz for more details

    Iconic Kiwi brands with a French flavour

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 22, 2025 22:59


    Fonterra is concentrating on its core business, and that means executing one of the biggest business transactions this country has ever seen - to the benefit of its farming shareholdersNZ First isn't happy about Fonterra's consumer goods - including some iconic Kiwi brands - becoming the property of a French company, but farmers want the windfallGuest:Riley Kennedy - Business Desk senior reporterFind The Detail on Newsroom or RNZ Go to this episode on rnz.co.nz for more details

    Two ordinary women

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 21, 2025 23:59


    Fifteen years after the explosions at Pike River mine killed 29 men, a new feature film brings the families' ongoing fight for justice back into focusThe Pike River mine disaster killed 29 men, and sparked a fifteen-year fight for justice. A new film brings that fight to the big screensGuest:Rob Sarkies - director Rebecca Macfie - journalist and author of Tragedy at Pike River mine: how and why 29 men diedLearn more:Read the Royal Commission's report on the Pike River Coal Mine tragedy hereWatch the Pike River movie trailer hereFind Rebecca's book about Pike River hereFind The Detail on Newsroom or RNZ Go to this episode on rnz.co.nz for more details

    The great rugby heist

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 20, 2025 23:09


    R360 is making a bold play for Kiwi stars, but there's much debate over whether the rebel competition is set to be a rugby revolution, or a career-ender The new rebel rugby competition is said to be targetting top-tier players by dangling huge salaries, but there are big hurdles in its plan to steal the gameGuest:Elliott Smith - Rugby Commentator and Deputy Sports News Editor - Newstalk ZBFind The Detail on Newsroom or RNZ Go to this episode on rnz.co.nz for more details

    Christchurch - city of colour, capital of cool

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 19, 2025 23:38


    Our second biggest city is experiencing the type of revival that should make the rest of New Zealand enviousIn the last 14 years Christchurch has been to hell and back - now it's finally emerging from the rubble as the country's most vibrant place to beGuests: Phil Mauger - Christchurch mayorAnthon Matthews - Hustler Group directorLearn More:Paddy Gower raves about ChristchurchTV3's Juliet Speedy takes a peek into the Te Kaha stadium, set to open on time and within its $683 million budgetFind The Detail on Newsroom or RNZ Go to this episode on rnz.co.nz for more details

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    Voice acting royalty at epic Armageddon

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 17, 2025 25:12


    You could walk past these prolific actors and not even notice you're among stars - until they open their mouths You could walk past these prolific actors and not even notice you're among stars - until they open their mouthsGuests:Nolan NorthVeronica TaylorDavid SobolovLearn More:Find out more about the Armageddon Expo hereFind The Detail on Newsroom or RNZ Go to this episode on rnz.co.nz for more details

    Helping the helpers in hard times

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 16, 2025 23:06


    Charities in crisis: how government cuts and rising costs are stretching New Zealand's social safety netPhilanthropists split too many ways and tears in the boardroom as charity funders are overwhelmed with increased calls for help, along with a decrease in donationsGuests: Kisten Kilian-Taylor - Head of Philanthropy at the Perpetual GuardianSusan Edmunds - RNZ Money CorrespondentLearn More:Red the Perpetual Guardian hereFind The Detail on Newsroom or RNZ Go to this episode on rnz.co.nz for more details

    New Zealand on strike, again

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 15, 2025 23:38


    Our workforce has had enough and will down tools on October 23 for a "mega strike", involving more than 100,000 workers New Zealand used to be the poster child of industrial relations, but strikes have become woven into our culture in the last century - and next week's walkouts are set to be some of the largest in modern historyGuests: Grant Morris - Associate Professor, Victoria University Faculty of Law Anna Whyte - Senior Political Journalist, The Post Learn More:Read Anna Whyte's reporting here Find The Detail on Newsroom or RNZ Go to this episode on rnz.co.nz for more details

    The pig welfare reforms that roll back pig welfare

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 14, 2025 23:45


    Changes announced by animal welfare minister Andrew Hoggard turn out not to be what they appeared on the labelThe government announcement looked like a good news story on pig welfare - but closer examination reveals a winding back of plans to ban farrowing crates and mating stallsGuests: Monique Steel - RNZ rural reporter Marcela Rodriguez Ferrere - Auckland University Faculty of Law Find The Detail on Newsroom or RNZ Go to this episode on rnz.co.nz for more details

    When social licence is revoked

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 13, 2025 22:59


    Big and profitable Kiwi companies hiking their prices during a cost of living crisis have been accused of losing their social licenceIt's very valuable but you can't buy it, and if you lose it there can be serious consequences. Why a social licence to operate is a must now for corporates.Guests: Andrew Bevin - Newsroom business reporterKevin Jenkins - business consultantShaun Truelock - OneFortyOne general managerLearn more:Read Laura Walters' analysis on Fonterra's social licence hereRead Andrew Bevin's story about the Tasmanian salmon farming industry hereRead some of Kevin's previous articles about social licences here and hereFind The Detail on Newsroom or RNZ Go to this episode on rnz.co.nz for more details

    The new online war against birth control

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 12, 2025 23:08


    The contraceptive pill is under fire on social media. Why birth control is being called "poison" online - and what doctors say.Fact vs Fear: Doctors are pushing back on the viral birth control myths and warnings over the contraceptive pill that are flooding social mediaGuests: Dr Beth Messenger - Sexual Wellbeing Aotearoa medical directorDr Megan Bugdon - La Trobe University lecturer Learn more:Read the La Trobe Univeristy study hereFind The Detail on Newsroom or RNZ Go to this episode on rnz.co.nz for more details

    Stormwater solutions lying in the soil

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 10, 2025 24:46


    An expert in water-sensitive design urges us to think harder about what lies beneath our feet Lost in Auckland's push for development has been the need to preserve the sort of sub-soil that absorbs water and encourages trees to growGuests: Sue Ira - director of Koru Environmental and Auckland University PhD candidateLearn more:Read Sue's article on Newsroom.That article came from a piece of research spearheaded by Auckland Council's Healthy Waters and Flood Resilience departments, funded by the Ministry for the Environment. That study is not yet publicly available. But another new report shows why this issue is so importantFind The Detail on Newsroom or RNZ Go to this episode on rnz.co.nz for more details

    The hidden heroes of child care

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 9, 2025 21:57


    Inside New Zealand's kinship care movement, and what's needed to repair the cracksFrom heartbreak to hope: how kinship carers are saving New Zealand's most vulnerable children, in spite of the cost to their bank balances and themselvesGuests: Dr Michelle Egan-Bitran - Family for Every Child programme advisor for New Zealand and the PacificLearn more:Read the Kinship report hereRead the report summary hereFind The Detail on Newsroom or RNZ Go to this episode on rnz.co.nz for more details

    The twists and turns of Māori politics

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 8, 2025 24:08


    Amid celebrations that their youngest MP made the cover of Time, ructions that threaten to blow Māori politics apartIt's reset day for Te Pāti Māori, after a series of dramas and accusations that have shone an unwanted spotlight on its politiciansGuests: Lloyd Burr - Stuff Explainer editorElla Stewart - RNZ Longform Journalist, Te Ao MāoriLillian Hanly - RNZ political reporterFind The Detail on Newsroom or RNZ Go to this episode on rnz.co.nz for more details

    What's missing from new earthquake plans

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 7, 2025 24:00


    One expert says the government's changes on earthquake-prone buildings are more about saving money than lives - but there's some sensible stuff in thereEarthquake-proofing heritage properties just got more doable for their owners, and the result could be a drop in the numbers of vacant and abandoned buildingsGuests: Olga Filippova - Auckland University Associate Professor, PropertyDi Maxwell - Left BankLearn more:MBIE's Earthquake-prone building system and seismic risk management reviewLocal government reacts to earthquake regulation changes in NewsroomFind The Detail on Newsroom or RNZ Go to this episode on rnz.co.nz for more details

    The nothing burger of a power plan

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 6, 2025 24:46


    The much anticipated government announcement of a solution to soaring power prices has fallen well short of fundamental reform The government's much-trumpted power plan to reform the electricity sector is more likely to result in dirtier, more expensive power, than a clean, cheap solution.Guests: Marc Daalder - Newsroom senior political reporter Learn more:Government's securing New Zealand's energy future press releaseFind The Detail on Newsroom or RNZ Go to this episode on rnz.co.nz for more details

    Not if but when - Taiwan waits for China to leap

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 5, 2025 25:01


    Taiwanese worry about living costs and their everyday lives while pushing the prospect of action from China to the back of their mindsTaiwanese people are used to air raid sirens and preparations for action ahead of any Chinese invasion, but life must be lived well in the mean timeGuests: Mark Hanson - journalist, publisher White FungusDr Ming-Shih Shen, Institute for National Defense and Security Research, TaiwanDr Jie Zhong - Institute for National Defense and Security Research, TaiwanKelly Sloan - Sloan & Associates, DenverYurii Poita - Ukraine scholar, specialist on Asia Pacific securityLearn more:Find The Detail on Newsroom or RNZ Go to this episode on rnz.co.nz for more details

    Digital IDs are coming

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 3, 2025 23:17


    If you want to live your life more seamlessly, you might have to swallow the dead rat of information seepageGo to this episode on rnz.co.nz for more details

    A royal pain for the House of Windsor

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 2, 2025 23:06


    With Fergie, Harry and Andrew in the headlines again, The Detail speaks to an insider about whether they can weather yet another storm From Fergie's letter to Epstein to Prince Harry's ongoing conflict with his family, the House of Windsor has had a tough runGuests: Dickie Arbiter - Royal CommentatorFind The Detail on Newsroom or RNZ Go to this episode on rnz.co.nz for more details

    NZ Football League caught in offshore betting storm

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 1, 2025 22:12


    A Kiwi amateur league has become a global betting goldmine, raising red flags about the risk of illegal on-field activityNew Zealand's time zone and poorly paid players make it vulnerable to match-fixing, opening the door for bad actors to manipulate matches - and athletesGuest:Dana Johannsen - In Depth sports correspondentDeclan Hill - Investigative JournalistLearn More:Read Dana's stories here, here, here, here and hereFind The Detail on Newsroom or RNZ Go to this episode on rnz.co.nz for more details

    Port of Auckland hails remarkable turnaround

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 30, 2025 24:16


    A new tripartite agreement for the Port of Auckland signals a turnaround for a workplace long dogged by controversy, including debt, delays and deathThe unexpected success story of the Port of Auckland includes an about-face on safety procedures, with the Maritime Union saying its work model needs to be replicated by ports around the countryGuest:Roger Gray - Port of Auckland CEO Carl Findlay - Maritime Union New Zealand national secretaryLearn More:Article on formal signing of Tripartite AccordArticle on the deaths at the PortArticle on Port financesFind The Detail on Newsroom or RNZ Go to this episode on rnz.co.nz for more details

    Changing the future for organised crime

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 29, 2025 23:40


    The final report from the Ministerial Advisory Group on Organised Crime is delivered today, and it makes for frightening reading It would give you chills - the chair of the Ministerial Advisory Group on Organised Crime lifts the lid on a scary future for New ZealandGuest:Steve Symon - Chair of the Ministerial Advisory Group on Transnational, Serious and Organised Crime and senior partner at Meredith ConnellLearn More:This page includes links to the group's monthly reports Find The Detail on Newsroom or RNZ Go to this episode on rnz.co.nz for more details

    The viral drift of misinformation

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 28, 2025 23:16


    You can roll your eyes all you want at the White House reckons on panadol, autism and vaccines, but the alarming truth is they are damaging and will turn up hereEven though he's been lambasted doctors around the world, Donald Trump's pronouncements on health issues none the less add to the less add to the mountain of misinformation in this areaGuests:Isabelle Montgomerie - post-doctoral fellow at the Malaghan Institute's Infection and Vaccinology GroupHelen Petousis-Harris - vaccinologist and co-director of the Global Vaccine Data NetworkLearn more:Helen's latest blog post on playing deadly politics with vaccinesSee the press conference at the White House via NBC on YouTubeFind The Detail on Newsroom or RNZ Go to this episode on rnz.co.nz for more details

    Turtles, the pet turned pest

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 26, 2025 21:53


    Turtles have a relaxed reputation, but in reality they're quick-moving and aggressive, and are wreaking havoc on our native wildlifeBreeds including red-eared sliders, cumberlands and snake-necks are becoming New Zealand's worst pests at a turtle's pace - which, as it turns out, is pretty fastGuests:Imogen Bassett - Auckland Council Head of Natural Environment Specialist ServicesDonna Moot - Turtle Rescue founderLearn more:More on the influx of turtles in the South IslandWhy Auckland introduced the ban on the sale of certain turtle breedsFind The Detail on Newsroom or RNZ Go to this episode on rnz.co.nz for more details

    Inside Taiwan's powerhouse semiconductor sector

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 25, 2025 24:40


    The Detail puts on a rabbit suit and gets special access to the incubators of Taiwan's semiconductor industryInside Taiwan's booming semiconductor sector, rabbit suits, sanitising air showers and transistors smaller than a speck of dustGuests:Brian Travers - CEO of Christchurch's Syft TechnologiesYuyi Chang - Electronic Engineering student Dr Sun-Zen Chen - Tsing Hua University researcher Zse-hong Tsai - Taiwan AI Centre for Excellence head Professor Yung-jen Hsu - Centre for Excellence chair Professor Tien-Wang Tsaur - EconomistLearn more by reading these two articles:The world's biggest chipmaker needs to move beyond TaiwanTaiwan Weaponizes Chip Sector to Deter China on World StageReferences:Space technology and Taiwan's strategic objectivesFind The Detail on Newsroom or RNZ Go to this episode on rnz.co.nz for more details

    Soft power, sneaky marketing

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 24, 2025 25:01


    How New Zealand manages to develop brand awareness without spending a fortune on advertising itselfNew Zealand ranks pretty highly in this year's Global Soft Power Index, but we've been better in the past, and some of our key images are aging outGuests:David Downs - New Zealand Story CEOAlice Peacock - Newsroom business reporterLearn more:NZ Story Market Pulse reportGlobal soft power report 2025 - David Downs' piece is on page 37Find The Detail on Newsroom or RNZ Go to this episode on rnz.co.nz for more details

    A race to change laws sees a sprint to the courts

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 23, 2025 23:59


    A spate of legal cases have put the Government up against industries and unions who say fast-tracked laws have been undemocraticFrom a ban on greyhound racing to dismantling the Māori Health Authority, this Government's hallmark is fast becoming its speed of lawmaking - and the industries and unions in the firing line aren't happy about itGuests:Laura Walters - Newsroom political editorLearn more:Read Laura's article on the High Court's decision regarding greyhound racing hereWatch Winston Peter's greyhound racing ban announcement hereFind The Detail on Newsroom or RNZ Go to this episode on rnz.co.nz for more details

    When AI in the workplace goes wrong

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 22, 2025 23:10


    A workplace performance expert warns that introducing artificial intelligence simply to replace people will backfire badly for companiesCompanies trying to use AI simply to reduce staff costs are being told they risk weakening morale, diminishing trust and stalling innovationGuests:Craig Steel - Transforming New Zealand's Productivity authorLearn more:Read Steel's paper on Transforming New Zealand's Productivity hereRNZ's coverage on New Zealand's latest GDP dataFind The Detail on Newsroom or RNZ Go to this episode on rnz.co.nz for more details

    Canned peaches, canned

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 21, 2025 20:05


    Hawkes Bay orchardists are pulling out their peach trees after Wattie's told them it's shrinking production of the canned fruitA gap in production in the wake of Cyclone Gabrielle allowed Chinese canned peaches to get a perch in the market - now they're undercutting the local offering and are here to stayGuests:Andrew Bevin - Newsroom business reporterGary Hamilton-Irvine - Hawke's Bay Today multi-media journalistLearn more:Discussion about peaches on RNZ's The PanelAndrew Bevin's story in NewsroomFind The Detail on Newsroom or RNZ Go to this episode on rnz.co.nz for more details

    Banter, beers and backstabbing at the Beehive

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 19, 2025 20:43


    Parliament isn't all fiery debate and smart comebacks, in fact MPs of all political colours get along. But only some are willing to admit it.Lawmakers spend their days arguing with their opposition over decisions that shape our nation, but behind-the-scenes there's a bit of room for collegiality Guests:Find a list of the current New Zealand MPs (including those interviewed in this episode) hereLearn more:How Parliament worksFind The Detail on Newsroom or RNZ Go to this episode on rnz.co.nz for more details

    Black Ferns battle injuries as they chase glory in England

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 18, 2025 23:12


    The Black Ferns are one win away from the finals, and the mood of the nation depends on a much-needed sporting victory."The Jonah Lomu of her time" will take on Canada this weekend in the Women's Rugby World Cup semi-final, with hopes of taking New Zealand to victory Guests:Suzanne McFadden - LockerRoom founding editorLearn more:Women's Rugby World Cup websiteThe Spinoff's article about the many complex truths in the lack of Black Ferns coverageFind The Detail on Newsroom or RNZ Go to this episode on rnz.co.nz for more details

    NZ urged to build new trade blocs

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 17, 2025 23:23


    BRICS is shifting the weight of global power, and one expert says it may be time New Zealand changed alliancesWith BRICS shaking up global politics and economics - and irking Donald Trump - would joining be smart diplomatic strategy for New Zealand, or just risk alienating an allyGuests: Chris Ogden - Associate professor in Global Studies at Auckland UniversitySam Sachdeva - Newsroom national affairs editor Learn More: See Professor Chris Ogden's story hereRead about Trump threatening tariffs on countries part of BRICS hereFind The Detail on Newsroom or RNZ Go to this episode on rnz.co.nz for more details

    A summer scandal on our shelves

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 16, 2025 23:25


    The sunscreens under investigation for their labelling claims in Australia, but still for sale hereSunscreen law dictates how SPFs are labelled, but when a product doesn't meet its claims, enforcement is a grey areaGuests: Belinda Castles: Researcher and Test Writer, Consumer NZLearn More: See Consumer NZ's sunscreen database hereSee Choice's recent test results hereSee Ultraviolette's statement on Lean ScreenRead ABC's reporting on other 'paused' productsSee the Suncreen (Product Safety Standard) Act 2022Find The Detail on Newsroom or RNZ Go to this episode on rnz.co.nz for more details

    Politics sink landfill-saving law

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 15, 2025 23:55


    It's still not clear exactly why the Greens' Right to Repair Bill faltered at select committee stage, after extensive cross-party collaboration on the details With the Greens' bill that would have encouraged more durable products gone, it's feared New Zealand may become the dumping ground for cheap, unrepairable goodsGuests: Marama Davidson - Green Party co-leaderMarc Daalder - Newsroom senior political reporterLearn More: RNZ's political reporter Anneke Smith's coverage on the issueConsumer NZ's Paul Smith on Why the Right to Repair is big newsFind The Detail on Newsroom or RNZ Go to this episode on rnz.co.nz for more details

    Leaked papers, low votes, huge stakes

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 14, 2025 24:31


    With local body elections less than a month away, The Detail looks at what's at stake Falling voter numbers, growing mistrust and leaked documents have local democracy under pressure, but the stakes for communities at local body elections are highGuests: Tim Murphy - co-editor of NewsroomScott Necklen - Local Government NZ interim CEOLearn More: See Tim Murphy's story hereSee the complete guide to the NZ local elections 2025 hereFind The Detail on Newsroom or RNZ Go to this episode on rnz.co.nz for more details

    Outdoor education up a creek without a paddle 

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 12, 2025 23:35


    An overhaul of the secondary education curriculum will likely see outdoor education become a vocational subject, and critics say the change risks loss to New Zealand's identity and industry  Changes to the secondary school curriculum will likely mean outdoor education becomes a vocational path, but feedback from across industries suggests the ministry can't see the woods for the treesGuests: Fiona McDonald - Education Outdoors New Zealand chief executiveClaire Amos - Albany Senior High School principalRob MacLean - ED nurse and former director of Outward BoundLearn More: Education Outdoors NZ petition to Stop the Government taking away Outdoor EducationRNZ's education correspondent John Gerritson's report on Tourism and outdoor education teachers opposing the NCEA subject changeFind The Detail on Newsroom or RNZ Go to this episode on rnz.co.nz for more details

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