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This week Sam welcomes Psychoanalyst, Mental Health Counselor, & Author, *Charles Wininger*. *Charles Wininger, LP, LMHC* ( http://talkradionyc.msnd26.com/tracking/lc/9423e1c5-4054-45e9-84af-84a67835d081/4efa0589-7c23-4123-8393-cda47e9ee6af/0e7563bd-e990-41c8-9e2a-dd276d28e0f2/ ) , is a licensed psychoanalyst and mental health counselor specializing in relationships and communication skills. Recognized as “ *The Love Doctor* ” by the New York Times & Newsday , he's been treating couples and individuals in his Manhattan and Brooklyn offices for 30 years. He sits on the Board of Advisors of the Psychedelic Education and Continuing Care Program at the *Center for Optimal Living in New York*. We will be discussing his new book, *Listening to Ecstasy : The Transformative Power of MDMA* ( http://talkradionyc.msnd26.com/tracking/lc/9423e1c5-4054-45e9-84af-84a67835d081/5654a50a-5668-4d03-97eb-652186b2beec/0e7563bd-e990-41c8-9e2a-dd276d28e0f2/ ) Tune in for this enlightening conversation at *TalkRadio.nyc* ( http://talkradionyc.msnd26.com/tracking/lc/9423e1c5-4054-45e9-84af-84a67835d081/6028fdba-5354-48b9-b348-d29fa277f714/0e7563bd-e990-41c8-9e2a-dd276d28e0f2/ ) or watch the *Facebook Video by Going Here* ( https://fb.watch/4a7utfxp24/ ). *Show Blocks* ------------- *Segment 1* Sam starts with a quote from a book called Everyday Awakening about forgiving our mistakes and enjoying life rather than trying to reach a false ideal. Today's guest Charles Wininger explains how his interest in MDMA began, and why he decided to research its therapeutic application. Sam and Charles discuss the diverse ways that some psychedelics have been used and its potential, specifically in the treatment of PTSD. Both Charles and Sam are supporters of the Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies (MAPS). *Segment 2* At age 40 Charles realised that he wanted to be a therapist. Prior he was an executive recruiter and while he was successful he realised that it was not a career he wanted to continue for the rest of his life. In his practice Charles has noticed an alienation as well as a lack of communication between couples even prior to the pandemic. He attributes this to the amount of time we spend living behind a screen. When the psychedelic renaissance began, Charles and his wife decided to host potluck dinners in order to support the MAPS community. His book Listening to Ecstasy : The Transformative Power of MDMA, Charles talks about his experience with his wife as they navigated through the psychedelic community. Sam notes that within the psychedelic community there are two camps, one looks into lab created drugs while the other studies the natural ones. Charles is interested in MDMA specifically because of the impact it has had on his life and has respect for all medicines because of the benefits they share. *Segment 3* Charles believes that we are in the middle of an emotional crisis. He shares his own personal experience with MDMA and how it has acted as an “emotional glue” when resolving their conflicts. Sam asks if there were any past experiences that they have held onto and allowed to harm their present relationship. Charles shares their challenges with projection and self love. After taking MDMA or other substances, it is important to focus on integrating the lessons learned into your life. One of the ways that Charles has learned to integrate those experiences in meditation. It is because of these experiences that Charles wrote his book and guides others as they open up to the therapeutic benefits of MDMA. *Segment 4* Charles answers a question about the therapy. It is a temporary use, not long term. Often 2-4 sessions in between sober talk therapy is enough. He calls it a “gateway drug” because it is a gateway to the heart and it reveals some of your deepest and darkest thoughts. He believes that many of people's problems are ego focussed. With MDMA and your ego temporarily dissolved, you see the world in a radically different way. You can find Charles' book Living in Ecstasy on Amazon and Simon & Schuster. Also visit his website listeningtoecstasy.com ( http://www.listeningtoecstasy.com ). Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-conscious-consultant-hour8505/donations

Captain Hugh T Alkemi aka Trevahr Hughes hosts this our first show of January 2021. Charley and Trevahr talk with intention about how to enjoy Molly, E, Ecstacy or MDMA and his latest book Listening to Ecstasy. Other mentions: MAPS.orgRick DoblinMescalinePsilocybinMagic MushroomsShulginPsychotherapyTantraCouples therapyMarriage counselingDrug ReformRavesSocial Distancing on DrugsListeningtoEcstacy.comBio for our guest:Charley Wininger is a psychotherapist in private practice. Licensed as a Psychoanalyst as well as a Mental Health Counselor, he specializes in relationships and communication skills, and has been treating couples and individuals in his Manhattan and Brooklyn offices for over 30 years.He completed his post-graduate training at the Gestalt Associates for Psychotherapy in New York, and has continued his professional development the past twelve years at New York’s Soma-Psyche Institute, where he learns intuition and empathic attunement skills.He has often been featured in The New York Times and Newsday as “The Love Doctor”, and has appeared several times on tv.For the past 20 years, Charley has been a member of the Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies (www.maps.org), which funds research into the use of MDMA (Ecstasy) for treating PTSD, social anxiety and other ailments. He and his wife Shelley have been instrumental in building the local MAPS community in New York since 2004.Charley sits on the Board of Advisors of The Psychedelic Education and Continuing Care Program at the Center for Optimal Living in New York, and speaks there on the topic of “Psychedelics Across The Lifespan”.Although he doesn’t use MDMA in his therapy practice, he continues to benefit from personal experience with this medicine as it informs and improves his performance as a psychotherapist.

In this episode, PMP has the chance to speak with Charley Wininger, the author of Listening to Ecstasy: the Transformative Power of MDMA. Charlie has been a psychotherapist in private practice since 1989. He has been a member of MAPS for 20 years, and sits on the Board of Advisors of The Psychedelic Education and Continuing Care Program at the Center for Optimal Living in New York, and regularly speaks there on the topic of “Psychedelics Across The Lifespan."

In this Episode, Kyle sits down with Elizabeth Nielson and Ingmar Gorman, Co-founders of Fluence, Training in Psychedelic Integration. They are both therapists on the MAPS clinical trial for MDMA Assisted Psychotherapy for PTSD. 3 Key Points: Elizabeth and Ingmar are co-founders of Fluence, an online Psychedelic Integration Training program. If psychedelic treatments become available more widely, the fear is that therapists won't be as educated on how to handle their patient interactions based on the behavior of each psychedelic. Psychedelic Integration Therapy Training is so important. There are 3 phases to the MDMA for PTSD clinical trial. Phase 1 would be pre-clinical data about the chemistry of a drug, Phase 2 is where you begin to test your treatment in a patient population, and Phase 3 is where you get the data to demonstrate that the treatment is superior to a placebo and other treatments in general. Support the show Patreon Leave us a review on iTunes Share us with your friends – favorite podcast, etc Join our Facebook group - Psychedelics Today group – Find the others and create community. Navigating Psychedelics Show Notes About Ingmar Ingmar is a previous guest of the show He is a private Investigator for the MAPS MDMA trial He is a therapist and the Co-founder of Fluence About Elizabeth Elizabeth is a Clinical Psychologist She has a long history in working with clinical trials as a therapist She is part of the psychedelic education and continuing care program She does a lot of supervision and training for therapists The Trial The approval of expanded access by the FDA includes 50 people in total They are near the end of MAP 1 (out of MAP 1 and MAP 2) When they transition into MAP 2, it will be a little more refined MAP 2 is different participants than MAP 1 There are 3 phases Phase 1 would be pre-clinical data about chemistry of a drug and how it metabolises, if its poisonous, etc Phase 2 is where you begin to test your treatment in a patient population Phase 3 is where you get the data to demonstrate that the treatment is superior to a placebo and other treatments in general They are done as a double-blind trial, both the therapist and patient don't know if the patient is receiving the treatment or now Take-aways There is a lot of information that has to be shared effectively The therapists are very much in the lives of the participants on top of just the MDMA Instead of learning from the trials of what to do on a practical level, its about inspiring them to bring this as an actual treatment for people The multiple ways that PTSD can manifest and look like, and the may ways that MDMA can look like when administered, have some commonalities The deepening, the broadening, the way they communicate, can all be the same Ingmar holds the belief in the inner healing intelligence of all people One of the first things he does when he begins with a new patient, he says that this is something he really believes in, and his role as a therapist to help them in their own healing process and mechanism What Elizabeth wanted to learn, know and practice while she was going through school, isn't what she she thought it was until she found it She says this work really requires them to trust people's minds and experiences There is something that they tell their patients, “Don't get ahead of the medicine” - Elizabeth There is an interesting paradox between not knowing and following intuition, to having an actual method and following that There is a sweet spot between following a script to following your intuition as a therapist You want to trust that inner healer process of the patient, but also need to know when to intervene (usually from a safety standpoint) Fluence 3 days after Horizons, Elizabeth was at home with a cold, and talked to Ingmar that morning curious for a name for the project Fluence means, magical or mystical power or source of power It can also refer to the density of particles of energy They teach about harm reduction and integration with their patients in their practice They aren't teaching protocols in the workshops, they just think the harm reduction is important The last part of integration is mindfulness Ingmar’s biggest influence are his clients and patients, he is so inspired by them A large piece of the motivation for creating Fluence is from patients just looking for someone to talk about their experience with The Why A mother whose teenage daughter with depression, reached out to Ingmar with trouble trying to treat her depression The family decided it would be a good idea to use Ketamine therapy, which was successful She was doing so well, so well that she then went to a therapist to integrate it The therapist that she went to then instead of responding positively, decided to fire the teen for further therapy, and report the parents to child care services for providing ketamine therapy Ingmar says their position is not that everyone needs psychedelic integration therapy, its specifically for those that don't feel supported by family or community, and it gives them a professional service as an option "Psychedelics are not 10 years of change in one night, they are 10 years of insight in one night. integration is so important." - Elizabeth The goal is to support people in making a change that feels safe and right for them If the treatments become available more widely, the fear is that therapists won't be as educated on how to handle their patient interactions based on the behavior of each psychedelic Mental health practitioners can be a great source for working through those experiences Menla Training Menla Training They could really take their time with the process and training The trainings that they had gone to has made their own Fluence courses better In 2019 they had 5 of the trainings for clinicians, and the trainings will be better and better as they go Ketamine Infusion Therapy The experience is not dose dependent The purpose of the workshop is to educate both therapists and doctors about what can happen in psychotherapy Links Fluence Psychedelics 101 and 102 Workshop at ICPR 2020 About Elizabeth Dr. Elizabeth Nielson is a co-founder of Fluence and a psychologist with a focus on developing psychedelic medicines as empirically supported treatments for PTSD, substance use problems, and mood disorders. Dr. Nielson is a therapist on FDA approved clinical trials of psilocybin-assisted treatment of alcohol use disorder, MDMA-assisted treatment PTSD, and psilocybin-assisted treatment of treatment resistant depression. Through Fluence, she provides continuing education and training programs for therapists who wish to engage in integration of psychedelic experiences in clinical settings. Her program of research includes qualitative and mixed-methods projects designed to further understand the phenomenology and mechanisms of change in psychedelic-assisted therapy, including the experiences of trial participants and of the therapists themselves. Having completed an NIH postdoctoral fellowship at NYU, she has published and presented on topics of psychedelic therapist training, therapists’ personal experience with psychedelics, and including psychedelic integration in group and individual psychotherapy. About Ingmar Dr. Ingmar Gorman is a co-founder of Fluence and a psychologist who specializes in assisting populations who have a relationship with psychedelics. He is the site co-principal investigator and therapist on a Phase 3 clinical trial studying MDMA-assisted psychotherapy for post-traumatic stress disorder. Dr. Gorman is a board member of Horizons Media, Inc., a not for-profit educational charity and organizer of the Horizons Conference: Perspectives on Psychedelics. After completing his NIH postdoctoral fellowship at New York University, Dr. Gorman stepped down as director of the Psychedelic Education and Continuing Care Program to focus his efforts on Fluence and the training of future therapists. Get a 30 day free audible trial at audibletrial.com/psychedelicstoday

“The word psychedelic was coined by Humphry Osmond. Psyche comes from the Greek word for spirit or soul, and delic means manifesting. So psychedelic means manifesting the mind.” In this episode of the Mindspace podcast, Dr. Joe speaks with Elizabeth Nielson and Dr. Ingmar Gorman on the renaissance of psychedelics in western medicine and culture. Psychedelic-assisted psychotherapy has the potential to transform how a wide range of mental health problems are treated. Elizabeth and Ingmar are both at the forefront of this renaissance. Elizabeth is a clinical psychologist specializing in addictive and mood disorders. She is the Director of Education and Training for the Psychedelic Education and Continuing Care Program at the Center for Optimal Living. She is also involved as a researcher and therapist on studies of psilocybin and MDMA, most notably with Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies (MAPS) the Experimental Therapeutics Research Laboratory at NYU Langone School of Medicine. Ingmar is also a clinical psychologist. He works with populations who have had experiences with psychedelics and other psychoactive compounds. He is the Director of the Psychedelic Education and Continuing Care Program at the Centre for Optimal Living. He is the site co-principal Investigator and therapist on a MAPS Phase 3 clinical trial MDMA for post-traumatic stress disorder. And he is an NIH-funded fellow at NYU and a board member of Horizons Media. In this episode Joe, Elizabeth, and Ingmar discussed: - The history of psychedelics and how we arrived at the psychedelic renaissance - Current science and applications of psychedelics - The subjective experience of these compounds and their clinical action - The role of mindfulness in psychedelic-assisted therapy - Future directions in this field Mindspace will be hosting Ingmar and Elizabeth in Montreal on Friday, November 1st. They will be offering a brief presentation and Q&A for the public. And on Saturday and Sunday, they will be leading an introductory workshop on psychedelic-assisted psychotherapy for healthcare professionals.

Katherine MacLean is a research scientist, teacher and meditator. In her academic research, she studied how psychedelics and mindfulness meditation can promote beneficial, long-lasting changes in personality, well-being and brain function. Following her sister's untimely death from cancer, she left academia and co-founded the Psychedelic Education & Continuing Care Program in New York (www.psychedelicprogam.com), which focuses on increasing awareness and reducing risks of psychedelic use. WLRN's Thistle Pettersen was able to connect with her by phone to capture this interview in February 2019. Hear Ms. MacLean talk about her experiences in the male-dominated medical establishment before she left it and how she discovered that this male domination carried over into her experiences in the "alternative" psychedelic community. Ms. MacLean will be giving one of the keynote addresses at the third annual Mycelium Mysteries Women's Retreat in Almond, WI taking place the weekend of September 27-29, 2019. Learn more at www.midwestwomensherbal.com/mushrooms.

Susan and Rebecca founded One Integration to raise awareness around the mindful and safe use of psychedelics for personal growth and healing. They offer individual as well as group integration in NYC. Dr. Scharf is a Board Certified Internal Medicine Physician and has also received advanced trained in Functional Medicine and Mind-Body Medicine. She has completed the Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies (MAPS) therapist training and is the study physician for the phase 3 clinical trials for MDMA therapy for PTSD in New York. She has also trained with the Psychedelic Education and Continuing Care Program and the Integrative Harm Reduction Psychotherapy Program from the Center for Optimal Living. Rebecca Hendrix is a licensed marriage and family therapist. She completed her Master of Spiritual Psychology and her Master of Counseling Psychology from the University of Santa Monica She has a coaching degree from The Coaches Training Institute (CTI). She is a certified Imago Therapist and has advanced training in Emotionally Focused Therapy (EFT). She is trained in Energy Psychology by Henry Grayson. She has completed the Center for Optimal Living's Psychedelic Education Program's 101/102 workshops and is in a clinician group for harm reduction and psychedelic integration.   Shownotes http://www.soulspacepodcast.com/2019/07/07/episode24 (http://www.soulspacepodcast.com/?p=1887)   'Forgotten', Poem by Thal Mohammed Music by Hoiking Fung https://youtu.be/5fjc_SUlh8s (https://youtu.be/5fjc_SUlh8s)   Connect info@soulspacepodcast.com https://www.instagram.com/soulspacepod/ (https://www.instagram.com/soulspacepod/) https://www.facebook.com/soulspacepod (https://www.facebook.com/soulspacepod) https://twitter.com/soulspacepod (https://twitter.com/soulspacepod)   About Adrian Choo & Thal Mohammed explore modern spirituality and life's profound questions with fellow seekers. Through stories, lessons and practices, this show helps listeners deepen their inner work and move towards a more meaningful life. Music produced by Hoiking Fung.

Susan and Rebecca founded One Integration to raise awareness around the mindful and safe use of psychedelics for personal growth and healing. They offer individual as well as group integration in NYC. Dr. Scharf is a Board Certified Internal Medicine Physician and has also received advanced trained in Functional Medicine and Mind-Body Medicine. She has completed the Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies (MAPS) therapist training and is the study physician for the phase 3 clinical trials for MDMA therapy for PTSD in New York. She has also trained with the Psychedelic Education and Continuing Care Program and the Integrative Harm Reduction Psychotherapy Program from the Center for Optimal Living. Rebecca Hendrix is a licensed marriage and family therapist. She completed her Master of Spiritual Psychology and her Master of Counseling Psychology from the University of Santa Monica She has a coaching degree from The Coaches Training Institute (CTI). She is a certified Imago Therapist and has advanced training in Emotionally Focused Therapy (EFT). She is trained in Energy Psychology by Henry Grayson. She has completed the Center for Optimal Living's Psychedelic Education Program's 101/102 workshops and is in a clinician group for harm reduction and psychedelic integration.   Shownotes http://www.soulspacepodcast.com/2019/07/07/episode24   'Forgotten', Poem by Thal Mohammed Music by Hoiking Fung https://youtu.be/5fjc_SUlh8s   Connect info@soulspacepodcast.com https://www.instagram.com/soulspacepod/ https://www.facebook.com/soulspacepod https://twitter.com/soulspacepod   About Adrian Choo & Thal Mohammed explore modern spirituality and life's profound questions with fellow seekers. Through stories, lessons and practices, this show helps listeners deepen their inner work and move towards a more meaningful life. Music produced by Hoiking Fung.

Katherine MacLean is a research scientist with expertise in studying the effects of mindfulness meditation and psychedelics. At Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine, she conducted legal clinical trials of psilocybin, the primary chemical found in "magic mushrooms”. In 2015, she co-founded and was the first director of the Psychedelic Education and Continuing Care Program in New York (www.psychedelicprogram.com), where she led training workshops and monthly integration groups focused on increasing awareness and reducing risks of psychedelic use. She helped to bring medical and humanitarian aid to remote Himalayan villages, as well as create sanctuary spaces for psychedelic support at large outdoor festivals. Katherine's teaching and integration approach combines over a decade of training in rigorous academic and clinical research with practical intuition guided by personal experiences, including five silent meditation retreats, a 2-month pilgrimage in the Himalayan mountain range in Nepal, her 29-year old sister’s death journey through metastatic breast cancer, and natural homebirth. https://www.katherinemaclean.org eastforest.org

Psychedelic research scientist, Katherine MacLean, stops by Synchronicity to discuss the origins of modern psychedelic mushrooms, the mushroom industrial complex and a whole lore more. Katherine MacLean is a research scientist with expertise in studying the effects of mindfulness meditation and psychedelics. At Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine, she conducted legal clinical trials of psilocybin, the primary chemical found in "magic mushrooms”. In 2015, she co-founded and was the first director of the Psychedelic Education and Continuing Care Program in New York (www.psychedelicprogram.com), where she led training workshops and monthly integration groups focused on increasing awareness and reducing risks of psychedelic use. She's helped to bring medical and humanitarian aid to remote Himalayan villages, as well as create sanctuary spaces for psychedelic support at large outdoor festivals. FOUR SIGMATIC This episode is brought to you by Four Sigmatic. Check out their amazing mushroom products (how's that for a episodic tie-in?). For 15% off your order visit foursigmatic.com/sync and you're good to go. If you're looking for a recommendation I'm a big fan of their Mushroom Elixir.

Download In this episode, Kyle interviews Dr. Jenifer Talley, Clinical Psychologist and Assistant Director at the Center for Optimal Living that does harm reduction in psychotherapy. Topics include the current stigma of substance use and the benefits of using a harm reduction approach. 3 Key Points: Dr. Jenifer Talley is a Clinical Psychologist at the Center for Optimal Living who practices harm reduction with her psychotherapy clients. Substance abuse is typically a symptom of a bigger issue. Jenifer uses a model called the 7 Therapeutic Tasks that helps build a safe relationship with her clients in adjusting their substance abuse mindset. There is a stigma on substance use, and shifting away from the current model into a harm reduction framework could help users be more receptive to change and healing. Support the show Patreon Leave us a review on iTunes Share us with your friends – favorite podcast, etc Join our Facebook group - Psychedelics Today group – Find the others and create community. Navigating Psychedelics Show Notes About Dr. Jenifer Talley Jenifer grew up outside of DC and moved up to New York area for her internship and was working with female survivors of trauma and substance use at St. Luke's Hospital. Dr. Tatarsky has founded the Center for Optimal Living and she is the Assistant Director The Center for Optimal Living is known best for their work with substance use and harm reduction Substance Abuse Jenifer says that 'abstinence only' or 'abstinence first' approach doesn't really work It's all about determining the relationship the patients want to have with a substance People really struggle with vulnerability and trauma is a player as to why someone wants to use a substance “Substance use is a symptom of a bigger issue” - Jenifer It's unfair to ask someone to change without asking the whole system to change 7 Therapeutic Tasks The Therapeutic Alliance - Letting the client know they can trust them The Therapeutic Relationship Heals - Jenifer says they are sensitive about creating a safe therapeutic relationship with clients Enhancing Self Management Skills - How to better help with coping skills, shifting how people relate to cravings “What’s driving my urge to go for a drink right now?” Loneliness, boredom and sadness are reasons for craving Assessment as Treatment - What was the craving, how did they respond to that craving, how did they give into the craving, how did they feel afterward When Friday night rolls around, can the client picture the guilt and shame of Monday morning in that moment? Embracing Ambivalence - The client might have different parts of themselves, one part of them may want to really work on healing and change, and the other part of them might never want to change Goal Setting - helping clients think through bigger lifestyle changes they want to make, such as diet, self care activities, and specific substance use related goals Personalized Plan for Change - asking people to really evaluate their use Substance Use Stigma How do we not be judgmental about someone's substance use, and care about their safety? Jenifer says she feels very protective about people she works with, and is very sensitive to her clients because of the shame about their drug use Clients Under the Influence Jenifer asks herself “does this person need medical attention right now?” She had a client that came in intoxicated but they were able to have a conversation still But she didn't let him go home because the fact that he drank She gave him food and water and waited until he was able to get home safely She thought about it from a compassionate approach and thought “what is that telling us about his use?” and the next time the client came in they said their drinking was hardly manageable Harm Reduction Model There is a gap in training as clinicians as providers In the US specifically, the 12 step process and abstinence are used which are a part of the disease model There is a lot of stigma and shame in calling someone an addict The fear about the harm reduction model is that it is thought to lead to decriminalization The other issue is that the harm reduction model is thought to not include abstinence Jenifer says it does include abstinence, she just doesn't lead with the abstinence approach Kyle mentions that a common thought for clinicians is “How do I incorporate a hard reduction approach without condoning drug use?” Jenifer says the drug use is happening already The first step is noticing your own biases first, and then getting informed about the model Andrew Tatarsky’s Book Patt Denning and Jeannie Little - Over the Influence Shifting to the Harm Reduction Model Help clients build a life that they are happy with 3 day training coming up The training goes into the history and why there needs to be a paradigm shift in looking at addiction The second and third days really go into the 7 Therapeutic Tasks Because there is more funding, they are going to train the region of Florida to train the staff at the Department of Health The idea of harm reduction might be less appealing to parents, so they really focus on educating parents and teens on harm reduction versus strict abstinence Safety First  Robert Meyers Kyle mentions a statistic he read saying that the older generation’s vice is alcohol, and that young adults are using opioids and pills Psychedelic Education and Continuing Care Program is psychedelic harm reduction Final Thoughts A harm reduction approach is necessary to teach people how to test, it could possibly save lives Families for Sensible Drug Policy We need to re-humanize treatment for users Links JeniferTalley Center for Optimal Living Check out our online course, "Introduction to Psychedelics" About Dr. Jenifer Talley As the Assistant Director of The Center for Optimal Living, Jenifer coordinates clinical services and training activities along with providing individual psychotherapy.Together with Dr. Andrew Tatarsky, she started the first-ever Harm Reduction Psychotherapy Certificate Program. In her clinical work at The Center for Optimal Living, she provides individual psychotherapy using an integrative harm reduction framework where the focus is on developing a collaborative and compassionate relationship with my clients to promote positive change.

In the fourth episode of DMT we speak with Katherine Maclean. Katherine is a research scientist who conducted clinical trials of psilocybin at Johns Hopkins School of Medicine. She is the cofounder and director of the Psychedelic Education and Continuing Care Program in New York, where she leads training workshops and monthly integration groups focused on increasing awareness and reducing risks of psychedelic use. We call this episode "What is something happens?"

In this edition of the Psychedelic Parenting Podcast, Jonathan sits down with Dr. Katherine MacLean, PhD. Katherine is formerly of the Johns Hopkins University's Behavioral Pharmacology Research Unit (BPRU), the home of the well-known Johns Hopkins Psilocybin Studies, where she held space for healthy individuals while under the influence of synthetic psilocybin.  While at Hopkins, Katherine was the lead author on the paper "Mystical Experiences Occasioned by the Hallucinogen Psilocybin Lead to Increases in the Personality Domain of Openness", and was instrumental in creating the currently ongoing study looking at the effects of psilocybin on people with a long-term mediation practice. She is currently, with her husband, John, living and working at Happy Acres Farm in Sherman, CT, raising free-range chickens, grass-fed cattle, and a milk-fed infant. Katherine is also currently involved in a project building psychedelic community and support in New York City called the Psychedelic Education and Continuing Care Program with Ingmar Gorman at New York's New School. During our conversation, Katherine discusses her path to motherhood, though her medicine work, Buddhist meditation, and the loss of her sister from cancer. She discusses the question of whether we should let our infants "learn to self-soothe," or should we commit ourselves to holding space for them 100% in their early years. She discusses how motherhood is a contract to being open to sacrifice and suffering. Katherine and Jonathan also discuss the ways that our culture of "Protestant work ethic" contributes to disconnection from the self, how it minimizes the importance of being with, and caring for, ourselves and our loved ones in the moments of birth, death, and pain. They also re-imagine a new form of work that gives birth to future labs, offices, and kitchens where career and home life will be harmonized and balanced. TOPICS AND WEBSITES DISCUSSED IN THIS PODCAST: The Shamatha Project @ UC Davis "The Psychedelic Art of Dying" (Katherine's talk at Psymposia 2014) "The Moral Imperative to End 'Cry it Out'" Philly Voice Happy Acres Farm Johns Hopkins Psilocybin Studies "My Experience as a Guide in the Johns Hopkins Psilocybin Research Project" by Mary Cosimano (MAPS Bulletin, Winter 2014) "What it Means to 'Hold Space' for People, Plus 8 Tips on How to do it Well" by Heather Plett The Center for Mindful Learning Zen Center in Johnson, VT The Zendo Project The Nomads Clinic The Reinvention of Work by Matthew Fox Link to the book at Powell's Interview with Matthew Fox The Giving Tree by Shel Silverstein 1973 Film Version (narrated by the author) Link to the book at Powell's