Podcasts about Hollow Moon

Welcome, my friends, to Paranormal Heart podcast. I'm your host, Kat Ward. Thank you so much for tuning in.Paranormal Heart Podcast is for entertainment purposes only. All information shared in this podcast is NOT professional advice. The views and opinions expressed on Paranormal Heart Podcast are not necessarily those of the show host, network or producers. Paranormal Heart Podcast is always respectful and courteous to all involved.Folks, my guest tonight is a Canadian medium, and UPRN sister, Lorilei Potvin. Lorilei wears many hats in the paranormal world: Crystal Reiki Master/Medical intuitive/ Energy Healer, Akashic Records Practitioner, budding animal communicator and registered nurse and so much more. You've probably seen her on the Travel Channel's Paranormal Survivor tv show in season 4 episode 9 called Demonic Hauntings. She is also host of her own LIVE Monday Night Video Podcast on United Public Radio Network called the Angel Rock and co-hosts on Thursday night LIVE on Beneath the Hollow Moon with fellow UPRN show host Kerrilyn Shellhorn. On this segment, Lorilei will be discussing many aspects of the paranormal, that she's encountered.  Some may even be spooky encounters while working as a nurse.https://www.youtube.com/c/TheAngelRockWithLorileiPotvinhttps://www.facebook.com/TheAngelRockThank you to my special guest tonight and UPRN 107.7 New Orleans and 105.3 the Gulf Coast. Remember, if you enjoyed   the show, please support us by Liking, Subscribing, Sharing and Commenting. “Another way to help support the show is by grabbing some swag! If you'd like to pick up your very own Paranormal Heart Podcast mug, just drop me an email at paranormalheart13@gmail.com. Until next time, take care of each other. Much love to you all!”

Thurs May 29th/25 Welcome to “Beneath the Hollow Moon Podcast” where folklore burns slow and the strange never fades! Join Us LIVE TONIGHT on Beneath the Hollow Moon Podcast, cohosted by the fabulous Kerrilynn Shellhorn & Myself, Lorilei Potvin, every Thursday at 7pm EST on UFO Paranormal Radio Network & United Public Radio! We are discussing tonight The Chris Watts House: Paranormal Inquiry!! Got a story that gives you the chills - a strange encounter you can't explain?? WE WANT TO HEAR IT!!!! Send us your true tales of the weird and unexplainable, and YOUR STORY could be the one we share on air. Submit your story to kerrilynnsporch@gmail.com #BeneaththeHollowMoonPodcast #KerrilynnShellhorn #LorileiPotvin #podcast

Welcome, my friends, to Paranormal Heart podcast. Tonight's segment is pre-recorded streaming on United Public Radio Network, 107.7 New Orleans and 105.3 the Golf Coast I'm your host, Kat Ward. Thank you so much for tuning in. Paranormal Heart Podcast is for entertainment purposes only. All information shared in this podcast is NOT professional advice. The views and opinions expressed on Paranormal Heart Podcast are not necessarily those of the show host, network or producers. Paranormal Heart Podcast is always respectful and courteous to all involved. Folks, my guest tonight is a Canadian Medium, and UPRN sister, Lorilei Potvin. Lorilei wears many hats in the paranormal world: Crystal Reiki Master/Medical intuitive/ Energy Healer, Akashic Records Practitioner, budding animal communicator and registered nurse and so much more. You've probably seen her on the Travel Channel's Paranormal Survivor tv show in season 4 episode 9 called Demonic Hauntings. She is also host of her own LIVE Monday Night Video Podcast on United Public Radio Network called the Angel Rock and co-hosts on Thursday night LIVE on Beneath the Hollow Moon with fellow UPRN show host Kerrilyn Shellhorn. On this segment, Lorilei will be discussing many aspects of the paranormal, that she's encountered.  Some may even be spooky encounters while working as a nurse. https://www.youtube.com/c/TheAngelRockWithLorileiPotvin https://www.facebook.com/TheAngelRock   Thank you to my special guest tonight and UPRN 107.7 New Orleans and 105.3 the Gulf Coast. Remember, if you enjoyed   the show, please support us by Liking, Subscribing, Sharing and Commenting. “Another way to help support the show is by grabbing some swag! If you'd like to pick up your very own Paranormal Heart Podcast mug, just drop me an email at paranormalheart13@gmail.com. Until next time, take care of each other. Much love to you all!”  

During the Apollo missions to the moon, something strange happened. An experiment to send the lunar module crashing into the moon's surface, caused the moon to ring like a bell, leading to speculation that the moon is a hollow satellite. In this episode I dive into the hollow moon conspiracy and we discuss the other conspiracy theories about life on the moon. Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/theconspiratorspodcast YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@theconspiratorspodcast Notes: https://www.amazon.com/Dark-Mission-Secret-History-Nasa/dp/B0043ML7EE https://www.amazon.com/Our-Moon-Celestial-Companion-Transformed/dp/0593129725/ref=sr_1_10?crid=3LIJIYJG92DRZ&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.C7e-8YHOVlPOnP0_HWOQKvPorh0_kvKADyuUkFuGgbU2Xl3WvfvI6ScyC1cT0dt5lB9FVjKrbPMBDAk9F1TQqJKjd5SdFlG3riWDSq8HBM8-33TjHJObaDS42utcv_fxS0Pqas1FYbITJlW8krlwAgussT2FlYFx4pn9s5bLZSam_Jce6x_Sd3qjoRf4QuQwbdXVcV0kogZsbc8UOi2ekYqEqkSC8SAB4-7xm6nntcD1tiMqAVZYxVP9VNpb7W2h-bdj9KHYazf9JnfAr8HJd54b2jcK5FcmqZb8q3pvy2g.3bUPZQlaX8fEradzY5LbtNtSwFQ0_qzefG0CXKLQCao&dib_tag=se&keywords=moon+book&qid=1748095677&s=books&sprefix=moon+book%2Cstripbooks%2C152&sr=1-10 https://www.dazeddigital.com/life-culture/article/63142/1/moon-cave-hollow-moon-conspiracy-theory-nasa-space https://www.nasa.gov/missions/radar-points-to-moon-being-more-metallic-than-researchers-thought/https://www.popularmechanics.com/space/moon-mars/a41651560/hollow-moon-theory/ https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2021/10/moonfall-look-roland-emmerich-hollow-moon-conspiracy?srsltid=AfmBOooYT1PielyNZ-OOWeW-FZ5KxYxtkoUTw1PSsOXe54wX3ijpmksd Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Thur. May 22nd/25 The Wail In The Wind: Banshees & Death Omens….. Welcome to “Beneath the Hollow Moon Podcast” where folklore burns slow and the strange never fades! Join Us for episode 5, where we're discussing Omens of Death; such as Banshees and more! Beneath the Hollow Moon Podcast with me and the fabulous Kerrilynn Shellhorn, every Thursday at 7pm EST on UFO Paranormal Radio Network & United Public Radio! Got a story that gives you the chills - a strange encounter you can't explain?? WE WANT TO HEAR IT!!!! Send us your true tales of the weird and unexplainable, and YOUR STORY could be the one we share on air. Submit your story to kerrilynnsporch@gmail.com #BeneaththeHollowMoonPodcast #KerrilynnShellhorn #LorileiPotvin #podcast #folklore #highstrangeness #banshees #fullmoon #death #omens

Beneath The Hollow Moon with Kerrilynn Shellhorn & Lorilei Potvin by UFO Paranormal Radio

Beneath The Hollow Moon with Kerrilynn Shellhorn and Lorilei Potvin

Thurs. May 1st/25 Time Travel, Dimensions, The Mandela Effect & More….OH MY! Welcome to “Beneath the Hollow Moon Podcast” where folklore burns slow and the strange never fades! Join Us on “Beneath the Hollow Moon Podcast” with Lorilei Potvin and the fabulous Kerrilynn Shellhorn, EPISODE 2 LIVE, this Thursday, April 24th/25 at 7pm EST on UFO Paranormal Radio Network & United Public Radio! Got a story that gives you the chills - a strange encounter you can't explain?? WE WANT TO HEAR IT!!!! Send us your true tales of the weird and unexplainable, and YOUR STORY could be the one we share on air. Submit your story to kerrilynnsporch@gmail.com #BeneaththeHollowMoonPodcast #KerrilynnShellhorn #LorileiPotvin #DontFollowTheWhispers #podcast #folklore #highstrangeness #cryptids #fullmoon #MandelaEffect #TimeTravel

Thursday April 24th/25 ARE YOU READY FOR THIS??? Welcome to “Beneath the Hollow Moon Podcast” where folklore burns slow and the strange never fades! We are launching “Beneath the Hollow Moon Podcast” with Lorilei Potvin and the fabulous Kerrilynn Shellhorn, EPISODE 1 LIVE, this Thursday, April 24th/25 at 7pm EST on UFO Paranormal Radio Network & United Public Radio! Got a story that gives you the chills - a strange encounter you can't explain?? WE WANT TO HEAR IT!!!! Send us your true tales of the weird and unexplainable, and YOUR STORY could be the one we share on air. Submit your story to kerrilynnsporch@gmail.com #BeneaththeHollowMoonPodcast #KerrilynnShellhorn #LorileiPotvin #DontFollowTheWhispers #podcast #folklore #highstrangeness #cryptids #fullmoon

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On this episode of The Conspiracy Files, we investigate the Hollow Moon. Join us as we dive deep into the world of conspiracy theories. youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@TheConspiracyFilesPodcast tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@conspiracyfilespodcast instag: https://www.instagram.com/theconspiracyfilespodcast twitter: https://twitter.com/theconspiracyfp website: https://www.theconspiracyfilespodcast.com --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/theconspiracyfilespodcast/support

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Podcast guest 1176 is Rob Shelsky, investigative writer with a degree in science, who has written a large number of factual articles for the former AlienSkin Magazine and many others. Today he joins us to talk the about moon theory and more! For The Moon Is Hollow And Aliens Rule The Sky https://amzn.to/4ekp5QD CONTACT: Email: jeff@jeffmarapodcast.com WEBSITE www.jeffmarapodcast.com SOCIALS: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeffmarapodcast/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeffmarapodcast/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/jeffmaraP/ JeffMara does not endorse any of his guests' products or services. The opinions of the guests may or may not reflect the opinions of the host. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/jeffrey-s-reynolds/support

Join Ghosty, Beaker, and D-Vo in this out-of-this-world episode as they take you on an exhilarating journey through the cosmos!

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In this episode, we explore the intriguing Hollow Moon Theory, dive into the speculation that Earth's satellite may be hollow. Introduction to the Theory: We introduce the concept and its implications. Lunar Anomalies: Discover unusual features on the moon's surface that fuel speculation. Cultural Influence: Explore how the theory has influenced mythology and modern culture. What to Expect: Prepare for a concise exploration of the Hollow Moon Theory, shedding light on its origins, evidence, and controversies. Subscribe, share, like, and ring that notification bell to stay up to date with our latest episodes! Spread the word among your fellow truth-seekers, friends, and family who crave thought-provoking content. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/qthelight/support

Welcome to another Wednesday, Queerdos! We've got a heaping helping of hijinks and happenings for you this week.  First, Kevin takes us on our inaugural voyage to CI's Rage Cage to infuriate us with the story of one of New York's “finest.” It turns out that there's a thin blue line between a business expense and wire fraud.  Next, Edie beams us back up to the Fun Zone to talk about the Moon. What's inside that thing, huh?  So keep your receipts,  break free from the prison of the five-sense reality,  and get ready for this week's show.  Let's dive in! True Crime starts at 00:10:25 Spoopy Tale starts at 00:58:16 EDIE'S ‘BE MINE (OR ELSE)' SPOTIFY PLAYLIST:

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If you enjoy this podcast, leave a review! Even a sentence can help. We want to hear your freaky-deaky voice. Go to www.ratethispodcast.com/openloopsNo guest on Open Loops can say definitively what's happening with UFOs, extraterrestrial contact, or even the freakin' moon.  Two episodes ago, we had someone telling us that the moon was essentially a directed energy weapon of the depths of hell that Neil Armstrong filmed a good TikTok on once.  We've heard it all on this show. We've never been there, it was a film set, the moon is a starship, it's not actually "Goodnight Moon," it's "Good Morning" but the old lady in the chair has been isolated for 14 years and has no tangible grasp on reality,  We've heard all the contradictions. We've heard all the crackpot theories. But now it's 2024....the year of true "Alien Disclosure" (supposedly).  ...so Greg's gung ho on going to go get himself even confused by whatever the #$#@! that thing is in the night sky.  On this episode, Greg welcomes prolific researcher and author Rob Shelsky to take on all things anomalous in outer space.  He guides us through the eerie terrains of enigmas like the Hollow Moon theory and the Mandela Effect. As we traverse these shadowy topics, we delve into Rob's own spine-chilling encounters from Down Under—experiences that ignited his quest for the truth amidst the world's most perplexing mysteries including:  The Alien Agenda and UFO EvidenceThe Moon UFO Cover-UpsTime Travel, Hoaxes, and Hidden Bases Unusual Claims About Extraterrestrial ActivityMoon Landings and Secret Space ProgramsShadow People and EvidenceSure, it's a list shorter than Jeffrey's, but it's still intriguing! Get ready for an episode that'll blow your mind into little moon rocks that you can probably get a few bucks for at a Tampa flea market. It's Open Loops. Find out more about Rob's work at new books at https://robshelsky.blogspot.com

Can you imagine the moon as a hollow entity echoing with a devilish face lurking in its reflection? Hold your breath as we unpack the stunning moon conspiracy theories, all while our hearts still reel from Matt Farbman's first base hit that we celebrate on this episode. The rhythm of our words sways us from Jamie Foxx's clone theory to the gripping plot of "They Clone Tyrone" and drops us right into Kevin's kitchen where he skillfully crafts sandwiches with the finest garlic-infused balsamic oil from Urb de Province. Did you ever fathom muffelados and Italian provisions playing a part alongside the art of baseball in a conversation? We love surprising you! One moment we're reliving the thrill of getting hit by pitches and the next, we're musing over our #1 fan Ben's eating habits. Amidst this, we spare a moment to update you on Thunderson's father in-law, Jackson Bjourne, who was first introduced to the world in our previous episode. Before we wrap it up, let's tread the path less traveled. Posing queries that may seem outlandish yet enticing, we question why we haven't been back to the moon? Is it a mere reflection of the earth? Could the Flat Earth model hold some truth? As you join us on this wild ride, don't forget to keep your imagination unwavering because on our show, the unexpected is always around the corner! So buckle up, lend us your ears and let's hit the road! https://www.podpage.com/TIDshow/

Sometimes, to believe in one conspiracy theory, you must give up another. That's the case today. Follow me down the rabbit hole to find out more about the moon.https://www.iris.edu/hq/inclass/fact-sheet/how_does_a_seismometer_work https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6bQh1EU5n0 https://anomalien.com/russian-scientists-in-the-70s-is-the-moon-the-creation-of-alien-intelligence/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hollow_Moon Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Welcome back to The Paranormal Rundown! Episode 2 is chock full of paranormal craziness, including Spells and Curses, the Evil Eye, Hollow Moon, Faked Moon Landing, Life on Mars, the Demon Azazel and the Kingdom of Hell, The Book of Job, Bamboo Chicken, Cyber Ghost Jokes, and even Jason the Horse!We also have our first guest, Father Michael Birdsong , the the pastor of St. Michael and All Angels Church in Thomaston, GA, a member of the Charismatic Episcopal Church. He also serves as the chair and president for the Crisis Pregnancy Center in Thomaston, as chaplain at the Upson County Regional Medical Center, and serves on the Bishop's Council of the Diocese of the Mid-South, where he also functions as an exorcist for the Diocese as needed. In addition to being in the ministry for over 30 years, Father Birdsong is a husband and father of two, and author of the book Becoming a House of Prayer. Additional information, including contact and social media links, can be found at www.becomingahouseofprayer.com.For questions, comments, or feedback, please email us at feedback@paranormalrundown.comEnjoy the show! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

We regularly give Patrons the opportunity to ask Jimmy Akin and Dom Bettinelli their mysterious questions and make them available exclusively to Patrons first and then later to the whole audience. This time the questions cover Angelic possession, Hollow Moon, Genesis flood, Younger Dryas, Philadelphia experiment, Ouija boards, King Arthur, Nation of islam, and more. The post Angelic Possession (And More Patrons’ Questions!) appeared first on StarQuest Media.

We regularly give Patrons the opportunity to ask Jimmy Akin and Dom Bettinelli their mysterious questions and make them available exclusively to Patrons first and then later to the whole audience. This time the questions cover Angelic possession, Hollow Moon, Genesis flood, Younger Dryas, Philadelphia experiment, Ouija boards, King Arthur, Nation of islam, and more.

We do our own research this episode and discuss the First Conspiracy Theory from 1863, and so very much more. Moon Landing! DIA! Paul is Dead! Dyatlov Pass! Others! All we can tell you through this unsecured channel is that this is a new episode of Debut Buddies... Or is it? Join the secret society as we talk Mouthgarf Report and I See What You Did There... Everybody's doing it. Have a First for us to discuss? Email us at debutbuddies@gmail.comListen to Kelly and Chelsea's awesome horror movie podcast, Never Show the Monster.Check out Kelly and Cabe on Thirteenth Depository.Get some sci-fi from Spaceboy Books.Get down with Michael J. O'Connor's music!Next time: First Female Serial Killer

Have you ever thought about how the moon was formed? Surprisingly, there is no concrete evidence. Instead there are multiple theories and people still argue between them. One theory is the moon is hallow and this changes everything we know about physics... But why do people think this could be true? Listen to uncover the mystery of the moon. Follow us on Instagram @barerootspod Tell us #whereisyourtinfoilhat

Adam welcomes his You Don't Even Like This Band co-host Travis Clark to defend his staunch belief that Earth's moon is actually a hollow spaceship.

Please be aware the stories, theories, re-enactments and language in this podcast are of an adult nature and can be considered disturbing, frightening and in some cases even offensive.  Listener Discretion is therefore advised.  Welcome heathens welcome to the world of the weird and unexplained.  I'm your host, Nicole Delacroix and together, we will be investigating stories about the things that go bump in the night, frighteningly imagined creatures, supernatural beings and even some unsolved mysteries and all sorts of weirdness.  So, sit back, grab your favorite drink, and prepare to be transported to today's dark Enigma....  And on today's Dark enigma well, it's a new year and a new listener suggestion!  So, with that said, we will still be playing our drinking game and as you know, the drinking game is only for those of us that are at home and have nowhere else to go tonight.  The choice of libation, as always my darlings, is yours, so choose your poison accordingly… Alright, now for the game part how about every time I say Earth that will be a single shot and every time I say Lunar, that will be a double shot.  Now that the business end is out of the way we can jump headfirst into today's dark enigma… so don… your best space suit as we dive deep into today's offering of Is The Moon Real – The Hollow Moon Theory? Have you ever considered the moon may not be exactly what it seems to be? Science tells us the moon was a result of the Earth colliding with another planet, causing a rocky mass to break free from the earth and be pulled into orbit by the force of gravity. But conspiracy theorists have considered the possibility the moon may be something more than just a rocky mass orbiting the earth. There's this fascinating theory floating about that our moon is actually hollow, obviously called the Hollow Moon Theory. This theory tries to prove that the moon may just be a cover or a protective layer around an alien's UFO. So which is right? That's what we'll be exploring in today's episode, so let's jump right on in. 

Wolf Takes A Bite is John Wolf and Devin Gray's show where they dive into all things: cryptic, conspiracy's, paranormal, aliens, and all ideas and stories that are out there. You never truly know what they will talk about it and which view they will be discussing each week...mostly because they do not know how it will go either.One thing is for sure though... there is always a ton of laughs along the way!So kick back and enjoy the ride right along with us!https://transistor.fm?via=wtb---Thank you for watching content from Grayman Media!Seriously, we love you guys!!We love what we do and are always so excited to release more videos for you all.If you all have any suggestions on topics or specimens we should dive into please feel free to leave a comment below or reach out to us on any of our platforms. (Links below)Website: https://www.graymanmediaco.com/wolfFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/wolftakesabitepodTwitter: https://twitter.com/Wolftakesabite1Instagram: https://instagram.com/grayman_mediaReddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/GraymanMedia/Don't forget to follow us if you want to see more later! ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

This week we're exploring the fascinating and controversial topic of flat earth theory....again. This ancient belief, once relegated to the fringes of society, has seen a resurgence in recent years thanks to the power of the internet and social media. On this episode, we'll take a deep dive into the history of the flat earth movement and examine the arguments made by its supporters.  We'll explore the evidence (or lack thereof) supporting the idea that the earth is not a globe, but rather a flat, disc-shaped plane. Whether you're a believer or a skeptic, you won't want to miss this revisit. Join us as we challenge our assumptions about the world around us and explore the flat earth phenomenon. Did we change our minds? *Intro sound clip features comedian Dan Cummins If you have any questions or topics you'd like to see the society cover, please reach out at Contact@hushhushsociety.com   You can find all our audio, blogs and drop sweet ratings at www.hushhushsociety.com Find our Video Content on our Rokfin Leave us a review on Apple, our website, Podchaser or GoodPods You can grab Hush Hush merch and help support the show on Patreon Link up with the society on social media:   Facebook   Instagram   Twitter    Join our Discord and chat with us   TRANSCRIPT Flat Earth 2   [00:01:00]  Dave: Greetings, Hushlings. Welcome back to the Hush Hush Society Conspiracy Hour. Mike: Where we journey into the world of conspiratorial mysteries and dark truths Dave: I'm Declassified Dave Mike: and I'm Mystery Mike and as though is we're joined by our fellow globetard Slick Fronk Sanders. Fronk: The Earth is probably round how you doing? Dave: it's going. Are things going around today? Mike: Quick question flat Earthers. How do boomerangs work on your flat plane? Fronk: Boomerangs are flat.  Dave: that got him. If you didn't notice today, we returned to the great debate in this episode. Is the Earth round? Is the Earth flat? Fronk: Hushling's, uh, in case you weren't [00:02:00] aware, we visited this topic in season three and completely shat all over the flat plane and we believe we should revisit this mother of all modern conspiracies, seeing as though it's such a big part of conspiracy culture. Dave: it's getting even bigger, even though you guys probably most definitely are gonna take a second dumping in this one. Mike: not as bad as the first. Dave: Not  Fronk: Yeah. We'll see. We'll see. Mike: we've discussed how there are different phases to being a flat earther. I'm guess I'm still in stage zero and we were in stage one in May of 2021. let's go up around to stage two But before we search for the horizon and fall off the flat plane and search for God in the sky under the spotlight sun, you can always find us on our social medias, Facebook, [00:03:00] Instagram, and Twitter Dave: You can also find everything hush hush society on our website, www.hushhushsociety.com. From episodes to links to merchandise, and the ability to drop a review or leave us a voicemail. We hope we get some after this episode. Mike: Hmm. Please do. Dave: Yeah. Fronk: And we keep mentioning that we are now also a video podcast. You can not only. To us, but you can watch us, you can see our faces. You can get that expressional action that you might not get from just an audio recording. And to find those episodes, you just gotta go to Rock Fin. It's, it's very simple. Rock fin.com. There's even an app. And in the search bar you just put in Hush Hush Society. You'll find us nice and easy. And there you can find all of our videos. you hit the notification button. You get notifications when our videos come out. Check it out. Mike: And just one last thing before we move on to the flat plane, we just [00:04:00] want to give a quick shout out to our newest patron, Gabrielle May. Thank you so much. We appreciate you. Fronk: Just in case you're new to this, we're gonna do a quick little recap for you on what Flat Earth theory is, and essentially, in a nutshell, the earth is flat rather than round. Pretty self explanatory, although it's made its appearance throughout history. The theory gained popularity around 2009 and has continued to grow ever since. Dave: It is regarded as one of the most controversial conspiracy theories in existence. Why claim that our earth is flat and not a globe easy? That's because it looks flat and feels flat and is surrounded by 200 feet of ice blocking us from traversing across an infinite plane or falling off the edge. Sounds correct, right? Fronk: I mean, yeah, that's what I've been made to believe. That's that's what it seems like Mike: Yeah. Riding on the back of a turtle through the cosmos, but the cosmos [00:05:00] doesn't exist, so where's the turtle going? Anyways,  according to believers, NASA and the ruling elite protect the ice walls from people attempting to climb over and fall from the disc. Can't make it up. They also believe that earth's gravity is an illusion, and that objects are driven up by a mysterious force called dark energy, rather than spinning and being stuck to a surface, Fronk: But on the other hand, there are countless photographs, videos, and images from astronauts and the International Space Station that kind of seem like evidence to show that the Earth is round. But these are not considered real evidence and are allegedly faked by the government or the ruling elites Dave: Now before we move on, flat, earthers already pissed off at our description in the beginning, Fronk: probably. Dave: we wanted to pull you in, but we'll make it as [00:06:00] fair as possible with some of the talking points that we're going to go over.  Now, Hushlings, there is the flat Earth Society as well as thousands of others from around the globe in groups. In addition to independent researchers, even though there is evidence to contradict some of these arguments, they are dismissed as fabrications of around earth conspiracy, along with stars, planets, galaxies, space, and gravity, all being a part of the facade of where we live. Mike: That is my biggest thing when it comes down to a debate between a flat earth and someone who believes that we live on a globe, is that it always results. In a flat earth are saying, well, that's what you've been told. You've been lied to. You're believing a lie that's being told to you, which is the old faithful of all conspiracy theorists, is that you're being lied to. That's all well and good, but at what point do you turn around and say, the [00:07:00] science is being lied to you. Nasa, we know lies to us. We know they fabricate images. We know what they do. But again, that's more of an argument that NASA is filled with bunch of liars. But at what point do you look at it maybe there is evidence that it's a globe or maybe there is evidence that it's a flat plane. There has to be a certain cutoff point where you stop saying, well, you're being lied to. That's what they want you to believe. That's what they're fabricating the science. They're fabricating this. They're fabricating that. How, and this has always been my issue, how do you talk to a flat earth and say, what piece of evidence would it take for you to say that it's a globe Dave: Pictures. Mike: pictures? , but then you show them a picture of this is what our earth looks like. It's a globe. Or you show them video or you show them anything. Well, that's been fabricated. It's always like this deniability to go against what they believe in. Like you, you have to deny [00:08:00] it. You have to deny it because it shakes the entire foundation of what their belief system is, especially when it comes to a flat earth. But then they always revert back to, that's what the Bible says. That's what the Bible says. I'm sorry, we, we've been over the Bible many times. We all know that it's been changed a thousand times and it's a book.  Fronk: not only that, but that's what they're making the Bible say. That's what certain people are interpreting the bible to say, and you can make the Bible say a lot of different things depending on how you decide to interpret it as a person. And if you're interpreting it as, they're telling me about the flat earth and so be it, Dave: This episode is gonna focus a little bit more heavily on some of the things that Mike and Fronk just mentioned, talking about NASA and the why would they lie and why would they fake and indoctrinated us as kids to believe that it's a ball. , and these are major [00:09:00] talking points that I've learned over the last year and a half since we've done this, other than just the physical evidence. We have the physical evidence if you're going to go by the, mainstream. we'll go through a bunch of stuff. I think we'll talk about religion too. So Mike, save those nails, buddy. Mike: We'll look into some of what we just listed and more throughout this episode, and it strongly suggested you listen to our first crack at this crust to understand where some of the historical beliefs come from and a lot of other things about this theory, mainly the science. But let's give this another oscillation, shall we? We're gonna literally hit some of the proposed theories and then firmly spit some facts. be prepared to, uh, confirm or deny your belief. Fronk: Before we completely dive into the flat plane, we're gonna talk about the planet as we've been taught in a traditional sense. Our Native [00:10:00] Earth is a terrestrial rocky planet, correct? Yes or no? I mean, whether it's flat around truth,  It has a dynamic and active surface with mountains, valley, canyons, you name it. All the different geographical structures and a variety of other features. It has water covering 70% of its surface, as well as harboring thousands of life forms, and it has a unique orbiting satellite arm. Dave: it has a circumference. Remember this number Hushlings 24,901 miles. And it shares our solar system with eight, sorry, Pluto, eight other planets and is rotating at around thousand miles an hour while orbiting our home star. Now this is where flat Earthers start to deny our existence on a spinning ball. we're orbiting around our sun at 67,000 miles an hour, all while zipping around the center of the Milky Way, roughly at [00:11:00] around 490,000 miles an hour. And the biggest claim, you can't feel it.   Mike: Well, that's just what we're taught in school. Unfortunately, most of us didn't escape the clutches of the Rockefeller Education System. There's that name again. Yep. He created the General Education Board in 1902 at the cost of 129 million. It's a lot of money back in 1902. It's a lot of money today and provided major funding for schools across the nation and was very influential in shaping the school system. Also, he's quoted as saying, I don't want a nation of thinkers. I want a nation of workers. Sounds like my pause. Fronk: And that speaks some deep truth because school does indoctrinate the nation into the trap of society. Once you hit like 10th grade, you're already filling out college applications, colleges that you're gonna be in debt to for the rest of your life, that you're gonna have to work for the majority of [00:12:00] your life to pay off for that job that you'll be working for the rest of your life. And it's this endless cycle. So that's definitely perpetuated by some global elitist. I get that to an extent, maybe the indoctrination portion of it. Dave: Well, from the beginning. Which classroom have you ever been in that didn't have a globe?    Fronk: In 1928, John D Rockefeller Jr. Financed an expedition to the South Pole as a British secret service. Agent Rockefeller knew perfectly that no South Pole existed, but people were curious about the true shape of the world. From 1956 onward, Antarctica was completely controlled by the Pentagon. Hence the Antarctic Treaty. And anybody visiting this chunk of land without permission was shot on site. Admiral by who we've talked about extensively, died mysteriously in 1957 and perhaps had a timely demise before he could tell the truth about what the South Pole. Mike: When it comes to the[00:13:00] Antarctic treaty and being shot on sight, who is shooting these people on sight? Fronk: Snow snipers. Those drones from Star Wars that landed on Hoth Mike: , that's a lot of land to patrol in order to watch for people.  Dave: remember. Antarctica is 5.2 million square miles as well. Mike: That's what doesn't make sense to me. You're gonna be shot on sight and that's another part of the Antarctic treaty that I also don't understand. Who is physically stopping you from going there? The only thing that's physically stopping you from going to Antarctica is it costs a lot of money. To either charter a boat that would go there. most people don't go there. Most charter boats don't go there. You could do a flyover, but that's only partial. Who is physically stopping you besides your bank account? Dave: I did see a video recently of some guys on a boat that were stopped. I think they were stopped by the New Zealand Navy [00:14:00] or the Australian Navy, and they were turning him around and you can see like. Ice in the distance or something like that. And I don't know if there was just like an iceberg that was out there that they were near, but the allegations on TikTok was got turned around at the bottom of the world, cause I believe it's, there's some degree, and I'm gonna sound uneducated saying this, but I don't know the degree, I think, but there's some degree at the bottom of the world. That you can't go. But the Antarctic treaty, it contradicts itself because the Antarctic treaty was supposed to be a demilitarized zone. No military stuff. No commercial, nothing. It was supposed to be strictly for research. Fronk: So why is the Navy there? Of who? New Zealand? Dave: It was either New Zealand or Australia Fronk: So what is the New Zealand or Australian Navy doing there? Dave: Well, they're close to Antarctica Fronk: Yeah, but isn't a non-military zone. Dave: But there's only military scientists maybe not all military scientists. You got like, Noah [00:15:00] scientists and stuff, and I'm sure NASA is down there, the Nazis, they're all down there. You know, you  got everybody. Antarctica looks like a continent to me, and there's a lot of pictures of it. And are they fake? I am. I'm not on the plane, so I don't know. . Why would it matter and why would they lie? The largest argument of why these elites would lie to us is most likely there's more land, more resources, maybe even unlimited resource. And lands beyond the ice shelf or walls, as well as the suppression of how powerful of beings we are, which can kind of be a different argument that has nothing to do with flat earth as well. thoughts on that? Fronk: I could get behind both of those points to an extent in the shoes of a flat Earth, for example. Yes. If you told me that there was unlimited resources, we're talking oil, we're talking the purest water in the world. We're talking minerals that are used to power the world's [00:16:00] electronics, whatever, energy generating methods that we might have unlimited supply of that which would completely destroy not only the US dollar, but the world economy, which is what the alleged elites thrive off of. And if it's not money that they thrive off of it is leaching our fucking energy. And we've talked about that a lot. And if we were to unlock some sort of crazy. Secret about ourselves or humanity as a whole. That might be incredibly enlightening to a lot of people or disturbing. I could see it going either way, but if, if a bunch of people woke up and they were incredibly enlightened, that could be bad for the reptilian negative energy blood suckers. Dave: I don't think it would go well for anybody. I think we always do ask this question a lot when we talk about this as is, would it change our everyday lives? And we usually say no, but it would, because we [00:17:00] probably have a massive economic shutdown. religions would collapse. There'd probably be some type of total anarchy that would happen and then we'd have our own epiphanies of being like, not really upset that I was wrong, but shit I was lied to as well, part of the Doy group. And that would be a shitty day. would it end everything for me? No, it would change everything for sure. But I think the unlimited resources part, I could see somebody hiding that, , we did talk about Admiral Byrd and Admiral Byrd went through, supposedly into the hollow earth, could he have misinterpreted and gone through a crack and found more land. Who knows? In the writing The Iron Republic, written by EW Barrington and published also in 1902, another one of that year with the education system. It was published in Florida Magazine, and it said that an explorer went through a crack in the ice walls and found an advanced civilization after being lost for over a month at sea. So that [00:18:00] means he went through the ice walls and there was more ocean,  Mike: Have there ever been any, any pictures or video of the ice wall or beyond it? Fronk: Uh, people take pictures of. Ice shelves and try to say that they're the ice walls, but at the same time, those could very well just be ice shelves or very large icebergs Mike: Makes sense. Makes sense.  Dave: I wanna see a flight going around the whole whatever, 76,000 miles it's supposed to actually be. Just banking around the whole rim. But you can't go there because the military will shoot you down in a de militarized. Mike: I still think that there's plenty of ways to get there. And we talked, who do we talk with? That had went to Antarctica? Was it Mark Fronk: on a cruise with like their father. Yeah. Mark O'Connell. Yeah. Dave: Yep. Mike: O'Connell said that , he went to Antarctica with his family. Dave: San Diego Padre's pitcher's there right now.  Fronk: Yeah, but he, he also mentioned that it was like the only [00:19:00] part of Antarctica that they'll let a civilian on and it's like this tiny little peninsula and they've got the little, novelty pole.  Like you could go up and touch it and take a picture with it. Yeah. And they got little stuff, penguins and shit. Dave: could it just be a simple explanation why we don't bring people there? One, you'll die  Fronk: , yes, it's very extreme terrain, there's tons of extreme terrain that we're allowed to go to that you would probably die in if you weren't very well equipped. Mike: Yeah, it makes sense that the only reason that they would be stopping people from going there, besides the massive, endless amounts of resources that they're hoarding from us, would be that they just don't want people going out there and fucking dying.  This brings up another allegation that even the word extraterrestrial means extra terra or more land. Trying to hold some weight to the notion this has been taught to us. We see in the film The Next Level by David Weiss. [00:20:00] He meets with an older woman named Ruth. She's 102, God bless her, from Connecticut, who was in tears claiming that she was taught flat Earth in school, in Hamden, Connecticut, and now feels vindicated and better because of his truths. Dave: she was like, lost it. Mike: like real, real emotional about it. Dave: Yeah. Really emotional about it Mike: Okay. We just mentioned the Rockefeller education system and him saying that he doesn't want a nation of thinkers. He wants a nation of workers. , in the 1920s, if she was taught that the earth was flat, She would've been learning from that education system. Dave: True. Yeah, but I don't think that there's actually, I've looked and looked and looked and couldn't find any definitive evidence that was saying that they actually taught that in schools. Because even in 2022 curriculums across the country are not the same, even across the [00:21:00] same states, depending on the size of your state, they're not the same, especially when you get to advanced levels like college professors are teaching what they want within that curriculum, How in 1920 were they all taught the same thing when there was still tons and tons and tons, tons of schools. , that's the thing that gets me,  she's 102. Could she have just been like, yeah, I saw that once and she saw it on a cartoon in the seventies while she was in her sixties,  Fronk: nonetheless, I do find it difficult to wrap my head around because it was David Weiss who did that interview or whatever, and he brings up a lot of stuff about flat Earth. I listen to a bunch of his talks and shows that he went on to and whatnot, and he brings up all of these points and , he tells people to just, look into it. You gotta look into it yourself. You gotta do your research. , you go to do this research and obviously if you're looking into stuff like this, you're not going to [00:22:00] Google. You're not using Bing, like the go to search engine for anything that you can't find is duck, duck go. And he's been saying that Duck, duck go is starting to censor things of this nature. So, like Dave, I went looking for what the global education was like in the 1910s, the 1920s, and. Again, like you said, no definitive proof. Is it a censorship thing or is it the fact that it was just not taught as flat in the 1920s? Dave: There's also allegations that say that, it was the thirties and even in the sixties through certain education systems. , I almost bought David Weiss's app now. David had contacted us and let us know how he thought about us. I think in the next level, , it almost looks like somebody's trying to sell something and maybe this woman really did feel vindicated Ruth if she's still alive or not. but I don't know, check out the next level. It's an interesting take on flat earth and [00:23:00] there's a bunch of other proponents that I'd never even heard of that have some interesting talking points. Mike: my beef when it comes to David is he did reach out to us. He reached out to us a couple times, especially after our flat Earth episode. And essentially just berated us through email it's the usual argument that I, especially for some odd reason am on the receiving end of arguments with flat earthers is just yelling and anger and just being pissed off consistently. and he was not too happy, as Dave said with how we covered it in our talking points. He said, oh, it's the same talking points. Well, it's the same talking points with flat Earthers too. you talk about the Bible, you talk about nasa, you talk about, it's like, it's, it's the same talking points because we're talking about the same fucking topic.  Of course we're gonna have our sides to it and of, and flat earthers are gonna have their sides to it. It's just the way that it is. That's how you have constructive. [00:24:00] Conversations that go back and forth with conflicting beliefs. Dave: I feel like it's a lot of frustration that , you're just not getting it. Fronk: I feel like he rails Coke and like smashes Globes in his free time, like buys globes from Goodwill and just fucking destroys them in the parking lot and then drives home  Dave: beats them with Louisville slugs. Just smack. Smack.  Mike: I can't wait for our next email correspondence after this one. Fronk: dude. It's not gonna be an email. It's gonna be a voice message and he is gonna be all fucking jacked up out of his mind.    Dave: Before we move on to like the major talking points we gotta talk about what Mike mentioned earlier where a lot of the stuff that is talked about goes back to biblical cosmology and creationism.  Mike: Yeah. And that's always been my biggest talking point with discussions with flat Earthers is explain it to me I will give you my counterpoints and you'll give me your points and we can go [00:25:00] back and forth, but complete your, persuasion of trying to make me see that it's a flat plane. Complete your argument without using the Bible. Every single fucking time. Every single time it ends in, well, it says this in the Bible and it says this, it always ends up being that let's put it this way. I've never met a flat earth that wasn't also at the same time a Bible thumper. Dave: I've met two types. I feel like there are conflicting points to, flat earthers even they step on each other's toes a little bit. They might not, not get along, but I think there are some folks that definitely don't believe in the biblical cosmology and it's just a physical thing. But every time you go back to, if it's a physical thing, that's a structure that's not a planet. It brings me to the question, even a non-religious person. It brings me to the question, well then we're talking about who created it, [00:26:00] not just the science of planets and, gas and particles coming together for, from a accretion. We're talking a whole different thing. Now. We're talking about, well, if it's a structure , and this is not what we think it is and this is not what I think it is, then it had to have been manufactured structure. We build structures. using that type of verbiage, brings even me to being like, , now we're in the religious realm or the faith realm. Fronk: You want me to blow your mind right now? you know what's easier than creating a whole universe writing fucking lines of code. Bam, bam.  Mike: Yeah, there it is. There it is. We should just bring all arguments of flat earth back to simulation theory. Fronk: That's where I, that, yeah. Prove to me that it's even physical and then maybe I'll consider whether, the shape is round or flat. Dave: Let's talk about curves. Fronk: Right. All right. Let's talk about the voluminous crevices and curves that our mother Earth provides. Right. The idea of a flat [00:27:00] earth stems from a number of viewpoints, and the most fundamental is to rely on one's own sense, to determine the true nature of one's surroundings. The world appears flat. Clouds, bottoms look like they're flat. Water looks like it's flat, and the sun moves. The stars are always the same positioned exactly how they always were, and all of these sensory cues indicate that we do, in fact, live on a flat. Dave: I'm not an astrophysicist and I'm not a  Fronk: Are you  sure?  Dave: Maybe, maybe, maybe in my other existence, the 500 of 'em. I'm a failed astrophysicist, but I do have a telescope and I've had it for quite some time and I'm pretty good with it. And it's Fronk: the fuck? Dave: eh, the stars not moving. I know that there's a difference between absolute, uh, motion. A difference between [00:28:00] relative motion, and I'm pretty sure that the way that the stars move, but their whole argument is, is that since everything's spinning at astronomical speeds every night, we would see different stars because we're just whipping around and seeing different things. So why are the stars the same? And it does get you thinking, well, why are the stars the same? Well, I'm not a professional astronomer, so I can't really explain that. But I would say it has something to do with relative motion where everything's moving in conjunction instead of just this vortex of insane speeds..  Fronk: In my peanut globetard brain, I'm more so thinking the speed of light and how long it actually takes for the light from the stars that we're seeing to travel here. I mean, yeah, we've been seeing the same stars for thousands and thousands and thousands of years, but at what point were those stars emitting that light? How long have those stars been dead for, and how long is it gonna take for us to see new stars again? [00:29:00] I can't answer any of those questions for you, but I'm pretty sure that's. Dave: Valid point. Mike: Also in the grand scheme of time, humanity has been around a fucking blink in universal time. again to Fronk's point here, we're seeing the same stars because we're living 80 years and that's it. As opposed to the billions and billions and billions of years that the universe has existed and that that light has traveled and those stars have either been born, exploded, died, and disappeared. , we're seeing nothing, nothing. Dave: Well, that goes back to you being an insignificant being and that being suppressed. There's that argument. We'll have that later. We'll fight about it. Mike: there, there won't be an argument. We are insignificant beings.  Even if you took it back to a creationist argument, we are fucking insignificant. We are insignificant, we're [00:30:00] nothing. If we were something we would still commune with Gods, we would still commune with universal spirits. We would be. Something more than fucking meat sacks traveling through the world going, oh, I wonder what job I'm gonna have next, that I'm gonna work fucking 40 hours a week at and pull in a menial salary and take care of my 5.2 fucking kids, and then eventually retire at the ripe old age of 70 years old. And that's my life. How special am I Dave: Well, that's the system that you're locked in. Mike: system or not? Even if I had no job, even if I was just wandering, enjoying my life, going to these wonderful, exotic places, just doing everything that I wanted to do. At the end of it all 70 to 80 years, that's what I get. That's fucking it. in those 70 to 80 years, when am I seeing God? When am I [00:31:00] seeing a hint of any extraterrestrial, any, any extra dimensional, any religious, fucking spiritual guide? Anything. Anything.  when I'm not, fucked up on drugs, Dave: psychedelics. Fronk: God tier moment. Mike goes, have you ever given an ant food? Throw that bitch in there.  Dave: A lot of people see that as negative, and I don't really see it as negative that we're that insignificant. It's kind of the same argument that I make about the flight paths, which we'll quickly touch on is, well, the, the plane has to keep dipping down to keep going. Have you seen how small a plane is to how big the earth is? Mike: That's one thing that they don't understand is fucking perspective. You don't understand  perspective.  Dave: I'm glad you brought that up because what Frankie said a couple minutes ago about viewpoints perspective, seeing, if the clouds appear flat, water is flat, that's called using an empirical approach or an approach that relies on information [00:32:00] on your senses.  What's your feeble little human garbage eyes can see? And if you can't see the curve, then it doesn't exist. They use mathematics. I am. Stupid with math. The math is if the earth is round, there should be a degree of curvature, eight inches per mile squared. one mile would be eight inches, two miles, 32 inches, three miles, 72 inches, four miles, 128, and so on.  128 inches is about 10 feet of curvature. So that would be, four miles away now? 10 feet. A considerable amount when you're looking at a boat on. Water the water line to the top, say, let's say an aircraft carrier is probably 60 to 90 feet. You'd have to be at least around 20 miles to not just see the flight deck of that ship going over the horizon.  Then you got the whole, you got the bridge, you got everything else. You got all the radar you're probably looking at 120 feet at least to the top of, all of the structures on that ship. How many miles is that? . That's the thing. Another thing with the insignificance is [00:33:00] that we're tiny as fuck. Like how can we see anything? If you're five foot 10 and you're looking at something how far are you actually gonna see Mike: but what about the Zoom, Dave? What about the Zoom? Some of those cameras, they can zoom way, way, way, way in. They take those cameras and they zoom, zoom, zoom, and they go, well, that city is 150 miles away. There's no way that I should see it because of this curvature. And this camera is picking it up perfectly. So how do they work? Dave: I think they use the Chicago skyline for example. And I didn't do the experiment and look on Google Maps , and see the different distances, but you gotta remember the Sears Tower, whatever the fuck it's called now, it's like well over a thousand feet tall. and they're like, well, you can see the whole thing you. In those pictures that are shown as examples, you cannot see the entire Sears Tower. There is hundreds of feet of displacement in Chicago. Like New York has a [00:34:00] very tall fucking skyline. But you could still see those buildings and they're there, and on top of it, you're getting atmospheric disturbance. You're getting a layer of almost a mirage layer.  Mike: Dave was just going over the math of the entire situation, it's 67 feet per 10 miles. Now, before we move on, we have to mention that there are ball earthers or globes or globe tards that do argue that this equation is misused by flat earthers. And is the equation of calculating a parabola, not a full sphere. Dave: The guy who said that this is Misused was something that was found on the Michael Stata podcast and apparently himself and another guy that were on there, one was like an F 18 pilot, and then he's got certain hundreds and hundreds amount of hours as being a pilot. he had mentioned that the equation was misused and used the parabola as an example, that you're talking [00:35:00] about something like this instead of something that's a full circle even if you're talking about it on the curve, , it's still a parabola, even on that surface. Even though the equations are right and the math is right to calculate the curvature of the earth with its circumference that's known.  Might not be accurate. And uh, who did that? Aristophenes did that. And I know Flat Earthers is gonna say that guy didn't even fucking exist. which maybe he did, maybe he didn't. That was 2000 years ago. Who knows? Fronk: just to be fair to the flat earthers, right? We can't nitpick what false history we believe and don't, we do tend to say that history could have been falsified many times. If history has been erased at any point in time there is the possibility that this dude was made. Mike: using this model, a person standing on a spherical surface with eyes five feet, 11 inches above the ground, can [00:36:00] hypothetically see the ground up to about three miles away, but a person at the top of the Eiffel Tower at 896 feet can see the ground up to 36.6 miles away. Dave: Well, they're higher in altitude, Mike: Mm-hmm. . Mm-hmm. . Mm-hmm.  Dave: but the argument is that you can't see using the calculation, you wouldn't be able to see because it's dipping. I think the argument is wrong, and I'm not a mathematician and I'm not good at math, but from what my I see is that almost like some of these people are seeing it smaller than what it is. I don't think they're really getting how big this thing is and how small we are. So even at a 900 feet, Yes, you can see almost 10 times as much in distance, but you're also almost a thousand feet in the air,  Mike: Again,  perspective.   Fronk: If the degree of the [00:37:00] curvature is found to be the same everywhere on earth's surface, and the surface is in fact large enough, the constant curvature demonstrates that the earth is a. Now what about water? James Underdown, executive Director for the Center for Inquiry, Los Angeles worked with the Independent Investigations Group, a nonprofit dedicated to investigating exceptional claims using scientific methods. A boat based target with horizontal stripes was used in one of these tests. Dave: He's quoted as saying we sent a boat out on the water, and the farther it goes, the more the stripes disappear. That was supposed to demonstrate the curvature of the planet, but most flat earthers disagreed generating considerable debate. The biggest reason for these arguments with flat earth, obviously it comes from flat Earth, Dave(David Weiss), and it's all about perspective, as we said. The ground would never obscure distant objects on a flat earth. It should be possible to see all the way to the edge of the [00:38:00] world, right? That is the question that we would be asking. The answer we get is the atmosphere is opaque. Now, using the vernacular atmosphere is almost a conundrum in itself, and you ask, well, why did you use that? Well, we don't have another word for it.  Mike: Why not just make up a word like you fucking make up your own beliefs?  Just fucking do it. Just do it. . Make up a new word. It's very easy. It's done every day.   [00:39:00] Ad break [00:40:00]    Mike: Let's move on to another major fight in this, the position of the sun, sunrise and sunset. In case you were wondering, the sun is always above the Earth's surface in both models, Yet in the flat model, it travels in circles around the Earth's north pole, which is also, its. The seasons are caused by the expansion [00:41:00] and contraction of these circles. What about latitude?  Dave: What about latitude? I mean,  that would  Mike: about latitude  Dave: right? Mike: Hmm. Dave: The largest circumference of latitude on this planet would be the equator. Correct?  Mike: Yep. Dave: And then you have the tropic cancer and the tropic of Capricorn. The midpoints. I don't know that seems pretty, easy to explain. Maybe I'm just stupid. Could  be,  Mike: Globetard Dave: yeah. Fronk: Fucking idiot. Do some research Mike: Look into it. Fronk: where, show me where, show me where I could read about this that isn't on the app.  Mike: In the Bible, Fronk: Oh, yeah. Okay. Okay. All right. Here we go with the fucking Bible again. Mike: and books from the  17 hundreds  Fronk: They considered the sun to be much closer than 93 million miles and possibly even as far as 3000 miles or as close as 300 miles and moves in a circle or a helix pattern because the earth is supposedly accelerating upward, obviously toward the sun [00:42:00] at 9.8 meters per second because they don't believe in gravity, and that explains gravity away. with that being said, the sun must also be accelerating in the same direction as this hypothetical earth vortex. Make sense? You guys got that? Dave: instead of us spinning with things spinning around us and us spinning around something else and then that spinning around something else, which is relative there's a really big graphic that's always shown on every documentary, every video, and it's like the sun being shot out of a. With everything else just like around it, it looks like a DNA strand, most globe tards, know that that's not how motion works with celestial bodies. that one got me and always gets me, is every time that's shown. I'm like, oh God.  Fronk: other astronomical bodies moving in such a pattern? We have like really high powered telescopes Mike: Because space is not real.  Fronk: [00:43:00] Oh, shit. I forgot. I'm, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. You got me.  Okay. All right. All right. Right. All right. Dave: no space. No space. We have to remember that throughout this whole episode, there's no space. Fronk: Yes. Yes. Mike: if you take space out of the equation, introduce God in the Bible, and just ignore all known fucking science for the past like 300 years, you can be a flat earther. Fronk: wait is it no space or it's just the sun and the moon and the earth, or , is it None of that and it's just plain earth with our spinning moon, sun clock sort of thing happening, Which one is it? Do flat earthers believe either the barrel bore theory or the plate theory? Dave: Everything's contained in a system. Fronk: It's one in the same Dave: and everything above us is, I guess, the abyss, because there's a lot of arguments that, like with this Artemis program, whether it's fake or not, we'll talk about NASA in a little bit, but whether it's fake or not, Rockets [00:44:00] don't work in a vacuum apparently. but they're actually using, their own inertia to move in a vacuum. But I guess things don't work that way according to some. That brings us to sunrise and sunset. I don't want to get too far into this cuz this can take hours and hours and hours to argue about, let's talk about sunrise and sunset real quick.  Fronk: Unlike a bunch of these other points, the day and night cycles are actually kind of easily explained on a flat plane. The sun theoretically would move in circles above the North Pole. Or around the North Pole, and when it's over your head, it's day, and when it's not, it's nighttime. The light of the sun is then confined to a limited area on the earth, right? Because it's right above you. This claim never held any weight for me in particular because it can be debunked with science.  On top of this, all of the planets and stars aren't actually what they appear to be like [00:45:00] big rock balls in space or giant balls of gas, but they're actually luminaries. Yet. We also hear a lot of people say, well, we don't know what they. Dave: Stars and planets are one of the biggest things that cannot be explained yet. We can explain them with telescopes. We've been talking a lot about movement. We have to talk about heliocentric model, which is the one that we supposedly live in and not the geocentric model, which is the one that flat earthers live in. When we are confronted with the question of how the earth is able to orbit the sun, and it's not a sphere it's pretty simple. The earth actually doesn't orbit the sun, as we've been saying. This is so, because instead of the sun being the center of our solar system, our planet is actually the center of our solar system or controlled environment. Mike: In reality, we have Helio Centrism, also known as the Heliocentric Model. It's the astronomical model in which the earth and planets revolve around the sun at the center historically, [00:46:00] Helio Centrism was opposed to geo centrism, which placed the earth at the center. now we've hit the firmament. Fronk: In the cosmology of the flat earth. The disc shaped planet is covered by a dome whose edges stopped just beyond the roughly 145 foot high ice wall of Antarctica. And these stars are fixed on this dome while the sun and moon, which are only about 31 miles in diameter, revolve about a 3,100 miles above the earth. Dave: Now, as we said before in biblical cosmology, the firmament is a vast, solid dome or semi solid dome created by God during his creation in the first six days To divide the primal sea into upper and lower portions so that the dry land could appear, which surrounds the earth or frozen water, I've heard this a lot with the biblical cosmology stuff, is that it's explained during day one, day two, day three, and they even say in the Bible, God created the firmament. I [00:47:00] believe it's on ver bran's headstone, as we've mentioned previously. I think it's a lot of wordplay and interpretation,  Mike: We also mentioned back in Hollow Moon, if you've listened to that episode about the Zulu tribe, where the firmament or atmosphere rained down to earth.  Our flat earthers saying that the sky is liquid possibly. Clearly, we know that the Earth's atmosphere is 78% nitrogen, 21% oxygen, 0.9% argon and 0.1% of other gases. Dave: Now, quickly, recently, I've heard a lot of arguments in quite a few different shows and videos not just one proponent, but multiple proponents on this theory. And a lot of 'em will say, well, the atmosphere itself is just a different version of water as it is up in space, a whole different version of water. Because they use the example of if you go to the deep oceans or certain lakes, there's different [00:48:00] salinities of water. You'll have heavier water on the bottom, different pockets of water. the atmosphere works the same way and they say, because it has the same elements in it. Now, if our atmosphere is made up of 78% nitrogen, 21% oxygen, yes, there's hydrogen in that, because if we need water, we need H two O, which does happen in the atmosphere, Fronk: shit. That's why they sent U-boats to space it's water. Dave: oh. Fronk: Oh, Dave: That's it.  You got me.  Mike: done. We're done.    Final thoughts, boys? Fronk: Thank you Hushlings. Dave: Yeah, that's it. Mike: Okay, so we're talking about the firmament currently. Now I just want everyone to know the actual definition of a firmament. So the firmament is the vault or arch of the sky. The firmament isn't necessarily something that is physical. It is something that is viewed. the [00:49:00] arch from one horizon to the other is the sky. That is the firmament. So when everybody's saying, oh, firmament, they're talking about the firmament, they're talking about something that's physically there. No, that's a viewpoint. The firmament refers to horizon. To horizon. The arch of the sky as you see it from one end of your viewpoint to the other Dave: Makes sense. There's a lot of that too, where it said that you're, uh, you have a personal viewing bubble and I think that's misinterpreted as what you're actually, what you can see you go up a 1500 foot mountain, you look around, you can see 360 degrees.  Mike: that's your firmament. Dave: that's your firmament. Fronk: One bar from Suicide Boy's last album. One of them goes Dome. So good. I think she think the earth is flat mouth like the fucking firmament. She got my eyes rolling back. There you go.  Mike: it says it all. Fronk: [00:50:00] It says it all, it says it all your, your mouth has a firmament. Mike: Show me what that firmament do. Fronk: land ho. We have hit the ice walls and the absence of the poles along the edge of our local area exists a massive 150 foot ice wall. This ice wall is on the coast of Antarctica, and The wall is absolutely gargantuan, made up of solid water, ice that surrounds our world and holds our world's oceans in.   And the South Pole does not exist, whereas the North Pole is just a giant mountain called a hyperly that you can't visit. Dave: The ice walls were discovered by Sir James Clark, who was a British naval officer and polar explorer who was amongst the first adventure to Antarctica in an attempt to determine the position of the south magnetic pole between 1768 and 1779. [00:51:00] Upon confronting the massive vertical front of ice heat famously remarked. Mike: "It was an obstruction of such character as to leave no doubt in my mind as to our future proceedings for we might as well sail through the Cliffs of Dover as to penetrate such a mass. That's what she said. It would be impossible to conceive a more solid looking mass of ice. Not the smallest appearance of any rent or fisher. Could we discover throughout the whole of its extent and the intensely bright sky beyond it, but too plainly indicated. The great distance to which it wreaths, southward " Dave: apparently it took him three years or so to do one of the journeys and he circumnavigated the globe at 77,000 miles. what if he did it three times and did [00:52:00] 77,000 miles? That's the one thing that I've always thought is that, was it one trip  Fronk: And he just didn't know Mike: But again, in the 18 hundreds, let's say that this guy goes and he encounters an ice shelf, would he not think that was an ice wall? Dave: yeah, Fronk: like, oh shit. Well this is the edge of the world I suppose. Mike: there's no going past this. My ship can't go through that. Dave: I mean, yeah, that would be logical. Mike: I think this is what we said in the first one, a lot of these arguments for a flat earth revert back to like this 18 hundreds knowledge. Let's look at this book from the 18 hundreds. Look, they mentioned the firmament. Let's look at this. they talk about ice stones and blah, blah, blah. Fronk: The future is a lie. . The truth lies in the 18 hundreds. Reject modernity, Now all of this would of course, imply that Antarctica isn't at all what they say. And we've [00:53:00] mentioned this quite a bit about the Antarctic treaty already and the Antarctic bases and all of the secrets that they hide and you can't go there. You're not allowed There. Only scientists. Yeah. That's where they're hiding the edge of the.  Dave: Let's board a plane real quick and try to go to Antarctica. I know we say we can get there by ship, but two major arguments about airplanes with the flat earth theory is one, there's no round trip flights to Antarctica. And I think we covered this briefly in our first one where we had said, Antarctica fucking sucks. And that's probably why there's no round trip flights and how a lot of the Southern Hemisphere flights cannot be explained. And I believe we went over that a lot in our first episode. And I still stick by all of what I thought about that. Now, the other question that comes up with this theory  one, can you see curve in a commercial aircraft? And two, the aircraft always has to be pitching nose down after a [00:54:00] certain amount of time. Those two arguments come up major in this theory. So I wanna get your thoughts on do planes always have to tip downward as you're flying? Cuz you've all been on flights before, Fronk: No, the plane isn't nose diving or it doesn't feel like it anyway. It doesn't seem like it's nose diving by any means. Dave: but you would feel it. You can feel drop in altitude when you're starting to descend and you feel that, whew, almost that weird weightlessness when they drop a couple hundred feet or a thousand feet pretty quickly. You can feel turbulence, obviously. , I don't think that it necessarily pitches downward after a certain distance because I think, like I said earlier, planes are tiny and the earth is huge. So I don't think there's that much effect of a plane having to move when it's floating on top of a surface of air. Fronk: If a plane pitched downwards while at like max [00:55:00] altitude, wouldn't it just start losing altitude? Wouldn't you just be going towards the ground or am I being peanut brained? Dave: If planes were going in the straight path following the Earth's curve, then they would fly off into space. That's what they say. And I think it's simpler than that. Planes fly in a certain area from 35,000 to 50,000 feet, especially commercial aircraft in a certain layer of air that's thinnest. Which is why they can move as fast as they can, but I don't believe that they're pitching because they're so tiny that everything is going to appear flat at 35,000 feet cuz the earth is so big. Mike: , they're maintaining a certain altitude from the ground, so they're not pitching anything. They're just going with the natural atmosphere of the earth. Dave: Gravity.  Mike: Yeah.    Dave: The plane thing never, never made too much sense to me, especially with the flying off into space. If you didn't compensate for curvature, it's because the Plains Center [00:56:00] mass is always perpendicular with the ground and the plane is so insignificantly small. That you will not notice those changes. You notice left and right banks on planes, , you take a direction moving towards another city, you see it, you feel the whole plane go and you're looking towards the ground. If you're ascending, you feel that inertia you're getting pulled up into the air, especially on takeoffs. Or if you're descending, you feel that, oh, the pilot goes, we're gonna be descending in a couple minutes, and all of a sudden you feel that that drop, you feel that motion left, right, and vertical but you don't feel those nudges that they say that they're doing. So I don't think that that happens. I just think the center mass of that plane is fighting against gravity to keep it up. It's a boat in the sky. Mike: even if they did, that's a continuous compensation. So it's not like they're flying a certain distance and then going, oh, well I'm eight inches above where I was before. I need to adjust. Even if that was the truth, they would just make manual [00:57:00] adjustments as they went. So over that period of time, a half inch, a quarter inch, whatever you wouldn't even be able to tell in the first place if that was the case. Fronk: And that would only be if you were flying like across the world. I'm sure it's even less so if you're flying from somewhere on the east coast down to like Minnesota or something, it's gonna be even less noticeable if you're traveling somewhere that local. Dave: You're only traveling a couple hundred miles. Fronk: Yeah, exactly. Mike: I'm sure the figures are out there, but how many flat earthers are from America versus from the rest of the world? Dave: Good question. Mike: just wondering. Dave: I don't know the answer to that. I would say there's a lot in America. America is a very conspiracy driven country at the moment, and flat earth boils down to every other conspiracy. If you believe wholeheartedly in this, you believe everything else, the lies, everything is fake. Your entire [00:58:00] existence is fake. that's from what I get Fronk: That sucks. And then, and then from that point where do they go with that? They yell at other people about it or We're gonna briefly go over the eclipse aspect of flat earth theory. Now, we all obviously know what eclipses are. That's when the moon aligns with the sun and the earth and blocks out the sun. You know the deal. and remember that the moon is 400 times smaller than the sun. It's also about 400 times closer to the earth than the sun is. Is that coincidence that this astronomical phenomenon happens? Uh, Dave: Well, I can tell you from the flat earth side that that is almost impossible.  Mike: It's pretty impossible either way. Like it's pretty coincidental. I will give it to them that when you're talking about the sun and the moon being these like perfect distances and these perfect sizes and these per that's intriguing to say the least. I will give them. Dave: Which we did go over[00:59:00] Hollow moon theory if the moon was placed here, it was placed here on purpose, but then that would give weight to some type of, maybe not creationism, but some type of external control or external observation, which I think all of us are on the fence with that.  That could be, it could not be, Mike: Again, prove to me that any of this is real Dave: So there's two types of eclipses. There's solar and lunar eclipses. Now, the way solar eclipses work is that the moon orbits in between the sun and the earth. And when that occurs, obviously the moon blocks out the sunlight. You see the corona bought a bing. You have a solar eclipse, and the moon also casts a shadow on the earth. Now, a lot of the times it's told that the moon can't cast this little tiny pin prick shadow that goes across the earth. But if the moon is relatively 200,000 miles away, why couldn't it?  Mike: According to flat Earth theorists, this astronomical phenomenon is [01:00:00] actually a glimpse of a mysterious shadow object that orbits the sun and occasionally passes in front of the moon. From our point of view, could it be planet X Nibiru? No. This object is known as the anti moon. That's new Dave: another random object in our solar system. We could go on and on about eclipses, but we have to talk about one of the biggest fallacies of our education system. Gravity, Mike: not real. Dave: not real. Now, one of the most well agreed upon theories is general relativity. And it is the theory of gravitation developed by our boy Albert Einstein, who was apparently a conman according to flat earthers. And between 1907 and 1915, he figured all this out. The theory of general relativity says that an observe gravitational effect between masses results from their warping of space time. Gravity is still just a theory to us. I guess we can all be on the fence [01:01:00] on it cause we really don't get it. And I think scientists have , admitted that they don't get it,  Mike: Well, didn't recently they say that they had to like rework that entire thought process for some discovery that they had found that the theory of relativity had to be, had to be rethought or it was not necessarily wrong entirely, but partially, I guess., it had to do with the way that a black hole was working, where for the first time they saw a star coming out of a black hole. Fronk: Yeah, I saw that it was being regurgitated. They saw light coming out of a black hole. That's right. Mike: Things are happening, man. Whether you believe in space or not, it's. Pretty wild. Fronk: Newton's love gravitation states every point Mass attracts every single other point mass by a force acting along the line intersecting both points. I don't know what that means. The force is proportional to the product of the two [01:02:00] masses and inversely proportional to the square of the distance between them. Exactly. That's what I've been saying this whole Mike: Sounds about right. Thanks boys. Well, what is gravity? According to this theory, it's stated that the earth isn't pulled into a sphere because the force known as gravity exists in a greatly diminished form compared to what is commonly taught, which is that we're being pulled down to the center of the earth while. The flat Earth is constantly accelerating up at a rate of 32 feet per second squared or 9.8 meters per second squared. As we had previously mentioned, this constant acceleration causes what you think of as gravity, but it's actually caused by a universal accelerator known as dark energy or Etheric wind. Never heard of Etheric wind. That's interesting, Fronk: time's that post Taco Bell shit's my etheric wind. Dave: [01:03:00] Furthermore with this we hear words like density and buoyancy a lot in these theories arguments, which is why things fall to the ground that are heavier and explains rockets, which are thought to actually be filled with helium and have a pyrotechnic show. that proves that all things fall at 9.8 meters squared.   Dave: All right boys, we're getting towards the end of our flat earth expedition here. But we have to go back in the sky. That brings us to rockets and satellites. As we just mentioned. Proponents of flat earth theory believe that satellites totally exist, but cannot be seen from the ground and are actually held in the atmosphere by helium balloons. Hence why NASA is the largest consumer of helium and they sometimes crash into the planet, which we call them weather balloons. And I guess that would explain the weather balloon phenomenon.  Fronk: Satellites in low earth orbit are constantly fighting gravity. According to science, some are geographically fixed and keep their [01:04:00] orbit by balancing two factors, their velocity, which is the speed required to travel in a straight line and their gravitational pull to the earth. To resist the stronger gravitational pole, a satellite orbiting closer to the earth requires more velocity. And of course, we're not going to get out of this debriefing without a little bit of NASA sprinkled in that bitch. Mike: Yes, good old nasa, our friends over there, professional cgi. It's widely assumed that humans have never left the Earth's atmosphere. In fact, we've never left earth and entered space because we lack the ability to do so in the first place unless you're a Nazi and a U-boat. Most of what society has been taught about space is completely made up or greatly exaggerated. By the government and or the elites. There's also the claim that humans have never landed on the moon. I'm with that, and that the infamous moon landings witnessed by the entire world in [01:05:00] 1969 were a sham. Fronk: Okay. I'll give them that. A major claim is that any pictures from the Apollo 11 mission that show that our planet as a sphere in the distance were fabricated by the government and nasa and NASA's mission is not to hide the shape of the earth or trick people into thinking it's round or anything else of the sort. Dave: Well, that's what NASA says, right?  We obviously know that there's some type of space travel conspiracy, whether it's more advanced or it doesn't exist. Possibly Nasa's mission is to create the illusion of space travel in order to, cover for the military, and their dominance in space. One thing we forgot to mention that I thought of real quick when you guys were talking is the quick notion on gravity. There's a lot of flat earthers that will say, well, can you jump, when you jump off the earth, you a hundred, 200 pound person jumping off the earth. Do you come back [01:06:00] down? And was it easy to jump? Then why is gravity so strong? Fronk: that's the whole argument of like, why does Gravity hold our planet's, oceans On  Dave: Yeah. Yeah. If it can  hold all this water and all this mass,  why can you jump off your roof and hit the ground? Mike: Because there is a different pull depending on the mass of the object.  Dave: Mike wins a gold star Fronk: gold sticker for you. Mike: boys, let's get into our final thoughts. Everything that was on Reddit, we've been through, we've done this whole thing. I wanna know the final thoughts as we get into stage two of becoming a flat earth. are we now believing that gravity is not real? The sun is a, lamp and uh, and we live on a flat plain, surrounded by an ice wall. Dave, are you a flat earther? Dave: No. sadly, I am not a flat earther. I think it's an [01:07:00] interesting theory that opens up a lot of more conspiracies and there are some valid questions, but I think a lot of it has to do with our lack of actually being able to see things because we are restricted beings. Uh, the one thing about flat earth theory that I find really fascinating is the suppression of information, the hidden things. And I think that's the conspiratorial part that really pulls me, believing that it is a different shape or an infinite plane or a snow globe, or, flatterers is gonna get so mad at me for saying that because we don't believe it's a snow globe. It doesn't look like a pancake. They all have different theories and a lot of it goes back to religion. A lot of it goes to creationism. A lot of it goes back to every other conspiracy you've ever heard of. So for me, still, I still think we live on a planet. the definition of planet is what we live on. Is it a perfect sphere? I think that's proven that it's not a perfect sphere.[01:08:00] I'm not a scientist, but I've done research and research and research and supposedly it takes up to two weeks or so to become a flat earth. I've been doing this research since like the end of July, and I'm still not convinced. wanted to give it a fair shake. Didn't wanna be a douche bag. Would invite any flat earth to come on and talk to us. We'd love to have you on, but You didn't get me yet. Mike: I will take my final thoughts, a complete left turn here. I don't care. I don't care whether it's a giant paella pan or if we live on a dodge ball. I, I don't care. I don't care. Maybe it's the blue pilled part of my brain that still exists. I don't give a shit. It doesn't change anything. I'm still gonna wake up in the morning and have to go to work, have to pay my taxes, and eventually I'm gonna fucking die. That's just the way that it is. I don't care if we live on a flat plane, I don't care if we live on a globe. It's just the way that [01:09:00] it is. but I don't think that we live on a fly plane. I'm just gonna say that I don't think that I, I do think that there is a lot of cover up of our former history. That much I believe is true. I do believe that NASA is filled with a bunch of liars and they do fabricate things including, setting up these videos where they're watching astronauts float around, but the water stays in a cup. That's an interesting one. , I do think that they do composite images together and they are a bunch of liars that I completely agree with. . I love you whether you're a flat earth or not, but no, it's a no for me. Fran, give us your final thoughts. Did you become a flat earther in this episode?   Fronk: No, I didn't. , I'm not gonna go off on a limb and say that I tried to give flat earth theory, the benefit of [01:10:00] the doubt, but I tried to stay open-ended, especially towards like the beginning of the episode. I was just trying to like see it from both sides and I still do to an extent. And you're right in saying that their best argument is the space shit and nasa, but, that can't be all you're going off of here, because that, lends to so much other shit besides just the shape of the planet.  And not only that, if you're like sold on the shape of the planet, then you've been deceived. You know what, I'm gonna pull a flirter and tell you what you've been taught on. The internet is wrong, and it's all code. You've been tricked into thinking that what we live on is physical and that it has shape. There is no shape. I've never even been out of the country. You can't even convince me that Australia's real, let alone the, the, the fucking shape of the  Mike: you're partial flat earther because they don't believe that Australia is real either. Fronk: [01:11:00] Oh, no. Australia's not real Mike: listen, if you're in Australia and you, uh, you live there full time, reach out to us. Send us an email. Even better a voicemail, because I just want to hear the accent. Send us a voicemail and say, Hey, yeah, I exist. I'm here. This is a real place. Dave: Clearly they exist. They're number three on our Spotify Mike: That's right. Thanks Australia. Fronk: No, I, I never tried to doubt Australia. It was a metaphor, but Dave: Our Hustralians down under, Mike: That's hilarious. Dave: , if we offended you we're sorry. Well, I partially am. Mike: I, I, listen, I tried this episode. I think that I was better than the first episode. I didn't sit there and say anybody was an idiot or any of that stuff. like I said, you believe what you wanna believe, but on, at the end of the day, I don't think that it really matters. Fronk: And if it makes you feel [01:12:00] special, by all means,

ALIENS BUILT OUR MOON - HOLLOW MOON DOCUMENTARY The Hollow Moon hypothesis and the closely related Spaceship Moon hypothesis propose that Earth's Moon is either wholly hollow or otherwise contains a substantial interior space. No scientific evidence exists to support the idea; seismic observations and other data collected since spacecraft began to orbit or land on the Moon indicate that it has a thin crust, extensive mantle and small, dense core, although overall it is much less dense than Earth.The first publication to mention a hollow Moon was H. G. Wells' 1901 novel The First Men in the Moon. In 1970, two Soviet authors published a short piece in the popular press speculating that the Moon might be "the Creation of Alien Intelligence". Since the late 1970s, the hypothesis has been endorsed by conspiracy theorists like Jim Marrs and David Icke.he Hollow Moon hypothesis is the suggestion that the Moon is hollow, usually as a product of an alien civilization.[1][2] It is often called the Spaceship Moon hypothesis[1][2] and often corresponds with beliefs in UFOs or ancient astronauts.[2][3]The suggestion of a hollow moon first appeared in science fiction, when H. G. Wells wrote about a hollow moon in his 1901 book The First Men in the Moon.[1][4] The concept of hollow planets was not new; The first discussion of a Hollow Earth was by scientist Edmond Halley in 1692.[5][6] Wells borrowed from earlier fictional works that described a hollow Earth, such as the 1741 novel Niels Klim's Underground Travels by Ludvig Holberg.[7]In 1920, fringe author Marshall B. Gardner cited Wells's speculation of a Hollow Moon as support of the Hollow Earth theory.[8]Both Hollow Moon and Hollow Earth are now considered to be a fringe theories or conspiracy theories.[9][1][10][11] The concept of the Moon as a spaceship is often mentioned as one of David Icke's beliefs.[10][12][13]Claims and rebuttalsDensityThe fact that the Moon is less dense than the Earth is advanced as support for it to be hollow. The moon's mean density is 3.3 g/cm3, whereas the Earth's is 5.5 g/cm3.[14] One explanation of this discrepancy is that the moon may have been formed by a giant impact which ejected some of the early Earth's upper crust into its orbit.[4][15] The Earth's upper mantle and crust are less dense than its core.[16]The Moon rang like a bellBetween 1969 and 1977, seismometers installed on the Moon by the Apollo missions recorded moonquakes. The Moon was described as "ringing like a bell" during some of those quakes, specifically the shallow ones.[17] This phrase was brought to popular attention in March 1970[1] in an article in Popular Science.[18]On November 20, 1969, Apollo 12 deliberately crashed the Ascent Stage of its Lunar Module onto the Moon's surface; NASA reported that the Moon rang 'like a bell' for almost an hour, leading to arguments that it must be hollow like a bell.[1] Lunar seismology experiments since then have shown that the lunar body has shallow moonquakes that act differently from quakes on Earth, due to differences in texture, type and density of the planetary strata, but there is no evidence of any large empty space inside the body.[17]Vasin-Shcherbakov "spaceship" conjectureSpeculative cutaway model of a Spaceship MoonIn 1970, Michael Vasin and Alexander Shcherbakov, of the Soviet Academy of Sciences, advanced a hypothesis that the Moon is a spaceship created by unknown beings.[2] The article was entitled "Is the Moon the Creation of Alien Intelligence?" and was published in Sputnik,[10] the Soviet equivalent of Reader's Digest.[1][19] The Vasin-Shcerbakov hypothesis was reported in the West that same year.[20]Their hypothesis relies heavily on the suggestion that large lunar craters, generally assumed to be formed from meteor impact, are generally too shallow and have flat or even convex bottoms. They hypothesized that small meteors are making a cup-shaped depression in the rocky surface of the moon while the larger meteors are drilling through a rocky layer and hitting an armoured hull underneath.[14]The authors reference earlier speculation by astrophysicist Iosif Shklovsky, who suggested that the Martian moon Phobos was an artificial satellite and hollow; this has since been shown not to be the case. Sceptical author Jason Colavito points out that all of their evidence is circumstantial, and that, in the 1960s, the atheistic Soviet Union promoted the ancient astronaut concept in an attempt to undermine the West's faith in religion.[2]"Perfect" solar eclipsesIn 1965, author Isaac Asimov observed: "What makes a total eclipse so remarkable is the sheer astronomical accident that the Moon fits so snugly over the Sun. The Moon is just large enough to cover the Sun completely (at times) so that a temporary night falls and the stars spring out. [...] The Sun's greater distance makes up for its greater size and the result is that the Moon and the Sun appear to be equal in size. [...] There is no astronomical reason why Moon and Sun should fit so well. It is the sheerest of coincidence, and only the Earth among all the planets is blessed in this fashion."[21]Since the 1970s, conspiracy theorists have cited Asimov's observations on solar eclipses as evidence of the Moon's artificiality.[22][23] Mainstream astronomers reject this interpretation. They note that the angular diameters of Sun and Moon vary by several percent over time and do not actually "perfectly" match during eclipses.[24] Nor is Earth the only planet with such a satellite: Saturn's moon Prometheus has roughly the same angular diameter as the Sun when viewed from Saturn.[24]Modernly, some scholars have claimed that "the conditions required for perfect solar eclipses are the same conditions generally acknowledged to be necessary for intelligent life to emerge"; If so, the Moon's size and orbit might be best explained by the weak anthropic principle.[24][25][26]

The Goblins discuss the Hollow Moon Theory after learning about it from the critically-acclaimed film Moonfall. They also briefly discuss ghosts and movies watched in recent weeks. IG & TikTok: @DesertGoblinMC Email: DesertGoblinMC@gmail.com www.DesertGoblinMC.com

Psychics Melt a Celeb Chef's Brains, a OUIJA Attack, A Beatle Seance, Dead Alien Tomb Unearthed, NASA says we are most likely Alone in the Universe, The Colonel reviews Next Exit! The boys are back at it, Dave, Eric, Marty & Greg share some head scratchers and laughs, and Dave needs to know, "Whatcha gonna do when Daveamania Runs All Over You!?"All that PLUS the return of Paranormal Karen with insights on OUIJA, Crystals, and she wants to put the FUN back in Funerals!Visit Paranormal Karen here: https://www.karenrontowski.com/Follow her on TikTok: @RontowskiGo see Josh Gates Live in Minneapolis Nov 19:  https://bit.ly/3AopizMGo see Josh Gates Live in Appleton, WI Nov 20: https://bit.ly/3EDxXRrSee Dave January 13-15 in California at The Fear Faire : www.TheFearFaire.comThe Paranormal 60 News with Dave Schrader - Hollow Moon, Dead Aliens & Martian Warnings EditionSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Welcome back to The Freaky Deaky! Hollow Earth, Hollow Moon, we're starting to see a pattern here. Today's episode is an interesting look into the Hollow Moon Theory, and follow the breadcrumbs to an interesting ancient story about the potential origins of the moon itself. Sound strange? But wait, there's more! We hear some unexplainable facts about the Moon that might just lend some credibility to the theory itself. We also obviously touch on the theory of the moon being inhabited by space lizards, yeah you know the ones.  Shoutout to local Wasilla Alaska listener, Jeremy, for the suggestion of today's topic! If you're enjoying the show, please take a second to leave us a 5-Star Review. It's the single best way to help us move up the charts and beat those pesky algorithms.  -- Have You Ever Experienced Something Paranormal? We want to hear your story! Use the email below to submit paranormal experiences, episode suggestions, or general feedback on ways we can improve the quality of the show: thegang@thefreakydeaky.com Official TFD Merch: TFD Merch Subscribe to The Freaky Deaky on YouTube and Follow Us on Social Media For Photos, Video Shorts & Behind The Scenes Looks From Each Episode: YouTube: https://bit.ly/3goj7SP Instagram: https://bit.ly/2HOdleo Facebook: https://bit.ly/3ebSde6 TikTok: https://bit.ly/35lNOlu Website: The Freaky Deaky Podcast

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The moon. Is it hollow? Is it even REAL? Are there things living inside it? What connection does it have to President Biden? In our first case back we tackle the cosmic horror that is the Hollow Moon Conspiracy Theory. Warning: The information presented in the episode may cause permanent brain damage.

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Today's Song of the Day is "Hollow Moon" from Josh Rouse's album, Going Places, out July 29th.Josh Rouse will be performing at Colectivo Coffee in Milwaukee, WI on Thursday, September 8th.

Happy Friday! Nashville-based, singer-songwriter extraordinaire, Josh Rouse is my guest for episode 1175! His new album, Going Places drops on July 29th on Yep Roc Records and you can hear the singles, "Hollow Moon" and "Stick Around" wherever you stream or download your jams. He's heading out on tour of the Northeast next week. Go to joshrouse.com for all of your Josh Rouse needs. We have a great conversation about making Going Places in Spain and living there, moving back to Nashville, getting back on the road, his journey through major and indie labels, expensive chords, co-writing and much more! I had a great time getting to know Josh. I'm sure you will too. Let's get down! If you feel so inclined. Venmo: www.venmo.com/John-Goudie-1  Paypal: paypal.me/johnnygoudie

"The Hollow Moon" is a work of horror/sci-fi by the great Everil Worrell. First appearing in Weird Tales in May 1939, it was given the following synopsis: “A fascinating tale of a lunar vampire and strange icebergs in the Pacific Ocean.”

Neoborn and Andia feel almost alive now on-air via traditional radio waves as well; and these two Purple Rabbits do help with your grocery shopping! They are also still trying to protect Planet Earth and they do have some things to say to the over-consumers and hoarders just as well the self-entitled overlord with their careless misogyny. Is humanity doomed? Most of the soil has already lost its organic matter! Shall we move into the Hollow Moon? Shan't we stop mining on Earth immediately? And what happens to Julian Assange? How could the UK become the new "Mini-Me" of the USA? Isn't truth set all of us free and make equal? Plus, where and how Rowan Atkinson and Hugh Grant play The Doctor (for the listeners in the USA: Doctor Who series)? Send your ideas! In addition: how to be nice and decent with actual artists and each other? Later: what has Andia been carpentering? Then: live-reaction review.The artist in the live-reaction review: Ismaila Mbaye (with La Scelta): Every Human Needs a HumanAnd if you type "Neoborn And Andia Human Show" in any of Tom Hanks' vintage typewriters, we'll pop up on the paper immediately! Our GDPR privacy policy was updated on August 8, 2022. Visit acast.com/privacy for more information.

We're back with another grab bag episode of ancient astronaut theories featuring Mildred from Thought Slime and Scaredy Cats! Did the famed Baghdad Battery power ancient civilizations with electricity? What's with the weird bones archaeologists found hidden in Egypt? And most importantly, is our precious moon secretly hollow for some reason? Let's find out!Check out Thought Slime and also Scaredy Cats because they're great!Subscribe to It's Probably (not) Aliens for weekly episodes about cool ancient history! And give us a 5-star review if you have the time. It would really help us out!Suggest topics for us to tackle: http://ProbsNotAliens.comFollow the show on Twitter: https://twitter.com/ProbsNotAliensTristan Johnson: https://StepBackHistory.comScott Niswander: https://twitter.com/scottniswanderMusic by Rod Kim: https://RodKim.comCover art by Skutch: https://twitter.com/SkutchdrawsSOURCES:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baghdad_Battery https://skeptoid.com/episodes/4640 http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/2804257.stm http://www.badarchaeology.com/out-of-place-artefacts/anomalously-old-technology/the-‘batteries-of-babylon'/ https://lflank.wordpress.com/2015/05/17/the-baghdad-battery/ http://www.theironskeptic.com/articles/battery/battery.htm https://web.archive.org/web/20131109074955/http://sites.matrix.msu.edu/pseudoarchaeology/2010/10/12/the-baghdad-battery-and-ancient-electricity/ https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2015/02/10/1361589/-The-Baghdad-Battery-An-Update http://www.sciencefriday.com/segments/archaeologists-revisit-iraq/ https://www.skeptic.com/podcasts/monstertalk/11/07/27/transcript/See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Research begins at 31:52 Can we really trust the Moon? I mean seriously, what is the Moon's problem? For example, how do we know the Moon is NOT a giant alien spaceship? Can we really say that for certain? Well one thing is for certain, bunk funkers, this week's topic won't leave you feeling hollow because it's the whole enchilada on the Hollow Moon! In the first segment, Andy and Art are captured once again by the titular Mr. Bunker - how did he fool them this time? In the second segment, Andy and Art give you, the listeners, an uninterrupted presentation of their research into the Hollow Moon. Finally, Andy and Art discuss the origin of life, marinara trench, star wars planets, and so much more! Send us your thoughts to @MrBunkerPod and mrbunkerpod@gmail.com using the hashtag #Cheeseburger Music by Michael Martello Artwork by Hannah Ross Audio Editing by Arthur Stone Follow Us: Patreon Twitter Instagram Website Youtube Merch Links Mentioned: For a list of research links used please see our website. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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In this debriefing the boys take on a lesser known theory, that the moon could be hollow! Could our celestial sibling be a man made structure? Could it be alien technology? Could the moon be a type of overlord guard tower, keeping an eye over its Earthly prisoners? The science, the culture and the Reddit conspiracy theories are explored. If you have any questions or topics you'd like to see the society cover, please reach out at Contact@hushhushsociety.com You can find all our audio, blogs and drop sweet ratings at www.hushhushsociety.com Leave us a review on Apple, our website, Podchaser or GoodPods You can grab Hush Hush merch and help support the show on Patreon Link up with the society on social media: Facebook Instagram Twitter  Join our Discord and chat with us

Is the Moon hollow? Or is it an alien satellite? As crazy as it sounds, the Moon being hollow is a lot more believable than you would think.----------Special Thanks to Mr. Charles Elliott for allowing us to use his song for the intro. Check out his music here on Spotify https://open.spotify.com/album/79LJ4cbLYlMarMq5YydyrO----------Check out Matt Cooper and Joel Benner's podcast Iconoblast.You can find episodes on the Drinkin' Bros History channel on YouTube and the audio wherever you find your podcasts.—————Check out Adam Hesters Podcast: Skeleton Factory Podcast. You can find it here https://anchor.fm/skeletonfactory/—————Follow us:Instagram @Con_Men_PodcastLike our page on Facebook, just search Con Men PodcastTwitter @Conmenpodcast1We are also streaming on all podcast platformshttps://rss.com/podcasts/conmenpodcast/--------------New episodes are released on audio every Tuesday morning. Video episodes are released on Youtube and Rumble on Friday afternoons at 2 PM CST.Like and Subscribe to the Youtube channel! Tell your friends!

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My special guest tonight is author Rob Shelsky who's here to discuss theories about aliens occupying the moon. Get his book. Is there a “No Trespassing” sign on the Moon? Have we been warned away from there by an alien intelligence? Is the Moon hiding a hollow core, one with an alien civilization? Do aliens take to hollowed out worlds out of a very real fear? If anyone DID NOT BELIEVE our Moon might be hollow, it was UFO Investigator and Author, Rob Shelsky. However, after researching the facts, the author did something he rarely does. He made a complete about-face on his views regarding The Hollow Moon Theory!  Just why did he do this? For a good reason: because the evidence to support the idea of our Moon being hollow was far greater than he had ever suspected and comes from a wide variety of scientific disciplines and sources. The Author discovered there is also a veritable avalanche of evidence for the existence of aliens being on or in a hollow Moon. If you have ever wondered if the Moon might just be hollow, after reading this book, For The Moon Is Hollow And Aliens Rule The Sky, you will wonder no more. This book includes evidence for: -- Recorded historical evidence for our Moon not always having been in our skies. -- Discusses the truth of the Spaceship Moon Theory (Hollow Moon Theory). -- Names the five main theories of our Moon's origin and what's wrong with them. -- Shows evidence for not just one, but possibly two hollow moons! -- Develops a new theory, that of the Diaspora of alien civilizations to the stars. -- Bizarre physical oddities about our Moon. -- Strange evidence for alien structures on the Moon. -- Weird events show evidence for aliens in space, in our skies, and on the Moon. -- Convincing evidence and arguments as to just why the Moon is hollow. -- Documented account of aliens and our Enjoy the AD-FREE versions of our latest episodes and our archives right now from anywhere in the world. Seven - Our podcast for the jaded ones that need wicked stories in their lives! Follow us on Instagram @mysteriousradio Follow us on TikTok mysteriousradioTikTok Follow us on Twitter @mysteriousradio Follow us on Pinterest pinterest.com/mysteriousradio Like us on Facebook Facebook.com/mysteriousradio Visit our website: https://www.mysteriousradio.com Check Out Mysterious Radio! (copy the link to share with your friends and family via text) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices