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Walk into any PR conference these days, and it's all but guaranteed that you'll see a session or two about how communicators can effect real business impact. Panelists and speakers talk about how we can earn a seat at the table (even though we often have one) and get taken more seriously as business partners by "aligning with the business strategy" and "bringing measurement discipline" to "demonstrate the ROI of Communications." But then you (some of you) go back to your office, and the very executives you're trying to partner with ask you to "make this sound better" or "add some positivity" or--even worse--"can you spin this?" Spin, the bane of PR and the root cause of so much distrust, still infects our profession. But if you're an ethical communicator with the right set of tools, you'll confidently stand firm when you decline to "spin" and instead communicate with integrity and transparency. In this episode of The Trending Communicator, host Dan Nestle sits down with agency CEO, prolific writer, in-demand speaker, and overall PR powerhouse Gini Dietrich. The author of Spin Sucks: Communication and Reputation Management in the Digital Age, founder of the Spin Sucks blog and community, and creator of the influential PESO Model, Gini has been a trailblazer in the communications profession and an advocate for transparent and ethical communication practices, and done more than most in steering the industry away from the damaging concept of "spin." Dan and Gini discuss the critical role of the PESO Model in strategic communications, breaking down its components—Paid, Earned, Shared, and Owned media—and how they integrate to create measurable, impactful results. Gini shares her insights on the importance of building trust and authority in a post-truth world, where misinformation and disinformation are rampant. They also dig into how AI will become even more central to the communications field. Gini reveals how AI tools are enhancing productivity, offering new ways to manage content creation, data analysis, and strategic planning. From leveraging AI for content development to using it as a virtual assistant, Gini provides practical examples of how technology is reshaping the way communicators work. Whether you're a seasoned PR professional or new to the field, this episode offers valuable lessons on ethical communication, the significance of the PESO Model, and the integration of AI into modern PR practices. Tune in to learn how you can navigate the challenges of today's media environment and build a more authentic and trustworthy communication strategy. Listen in and hear about... The damaging impact of "spin" on the PR industry's reputation and the push for ethical communications How the PESO Model integrates paid, earned, shared, and owned media for strategic communications How media relations is evolving (or devolving) in a world where traditional media trust is declining The importance of building owned content and community to maintain control over brand messaging AI's role in enhancing productivity and efficiency across all aspects of the PESO Modeal The shift towards earning attention rather than just media hits in today's fragmented media environment Notable Quotes On Navigating Post-Truth America: “It's funny you say that because I think we're in a world now where we live in what has been dubbed the post truth America, which sucks in and of itself. But as communicators, we have to kind of figure out how to navigate that. And part of that is you can't spin, you can't lie, you can't be unethical, you have to be extraordinarily transparent and authentic.” — Gini Dietrich [00:03:37 → 00:04:00] On Misinformation: “It's interesting how there's been such a upswell in discussions of misinformation, disinformation, mal information, information, any of the informations. So much so that, you know, I firmly believe that even the term misinformation is a kind of misinformation.” — Dan Nestle [00:04:38 → 00:04:55] On Crisis Communications: “But if there's an interpretation, then just, you know, there's gotta be some way. Look, label it as such. I know that's. That some people try. But, you know, sometimes what has been decried as misinformation is turned. Turns out to be totally true later. Or what is said to be true turns out to be, like, disinformation later. Like, it's just. It's just a mess. So we need to really be able to not only stand by what we say is misinformation or have rationale for it, but if it turns out that we were wrong, we have to come out and say we were wrong.” — Dan Nestle [00:05:55 → 00:06:31] On the PESO Model: “It's not a list of tactics. You can't just pull tactics from each media type and call it the Peso model. It's really about an integrated model that's measurable and it's measurable to the things that executives care about.” — Gini Dietrich [00:09:00 → 00:09:15] On Media Consumption: “Think about how you get your information. I mean, unless you're, unless you're 80 years old or older, you're not getting information or your news from TV anymore. You're just not.” — Gini Dietrich [00:25:29 → 00:25:44] On the Evolution of Media Relations: “We do a lot of work with universities and through our, through our certification. And one of the things that I've noticed in the last five years is that when you talk to college students about media relations or earned media, the first place they go is not traditional media ever.” — Gini Dietrich [00:24:02 → 00:24:20] On AI's Role in Content Creation: “AI is giving us time. It's giving us more time in our day. It's making us more productive. And so when we refresh the model in January, really, we Were only looking at AI from an owned media perspective. And I think that has massively changed this year.” — Gini Dietrich [00:42:44 → 00:43:00] Resources and Links Dan Nestle Inquisitive Communications | Website The Trending Communicator | Website Communications Trends from Trending Communicators | Dan Nestle's Substack Dan Nestle | LinkedIn Dan Nestle | Twitter/X Gini Dietrich The PESO Model | Website Spin Sucks | Website Spin Sucks: Communication and Reputation Management in the Digital Age | Amazon.com Gini Dietrich | LinkedIn Gini Dietrich | Twitter/X Timestamped key moments from this episode (as generated by Fireflies.ai)
Gini Dietrich is the founder of the influential Spin Sucks blog and author of "Spin Sucks: Communication and Reputation Management in the Digital Age." For the past 18 years, she has run and grown the Arment Dietrich agency, and currently hosts 3 podcasts, "Spin Sucks," "Inside PR," and "The Agency Leadership Podcast." Here, Gini shares how Spin Sucks went from a blog to a movement and explains why thought leaders must stand for something.Key Takeaways:- The Spin Sucks story- Why thought leaders should be bold- Why Gini loves AIEpisode Timeline:2:00 How to come up with podcast ideas3:20 Why is Taylor Swift a great marketer?5:00 How Spin Sucks grew from a blog to a movement7:00 Why ethics is the backbone of Spin Sucks9:15 How to define results with a client10:15 The PESO model13:15 The importance of creating authority and trust14:00 Gini on thought leadership17:00 Gini's thoughts on AIThis episode's guest:· Gini Dietrich· Spin Sucks.comSubscribe and leave a 5-star review: https://pod.link/1496390646Contact Us!• Join the conversation by leaving a comment!• Follow us on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, and LinkedIn!Thanks for listening! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
In this episode, I chat with Gini Dietrich who is the CEO of Arment Dietrich and author of the book, Spin Sucks – Communication and Reputation Management in the Digital Age Gini shares what it means to be a business leader when human things happen. She tells the story of how a major life change created unexpected challenges and how she rolled with the punches to keep her business on track and her clients happy. Find this episode insightful? Subscribe, rate, and share this podcast so we can produce more. Follow Adam @adamhelweh or visit www.secretsushi.com. | Music by mogillaguerrilla@gmail.com IG: @mogilla_guerrilla_beatz --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/marketingintheraw/message
Author Gini Dietrich returns to The Marketing Book Podcast for a special episode of "Authors in Quarantine Getting Cocktails." Previously on The Marketing Book Podcast to discuss her book, Spin Sucks: Communication and Reputation Management in the Digital Age, Gini Dietrich joins the (hopefully) limited time series, Authors in Quarantine Getting Cocktails to talk about being quarantined in Chicago, 100+ days in isolation with her husband and 7-year-old daughter, the outdated perception of public relations, the PESO model, and much more! Cheers! Click here for episode website page and links... https://www.salesartillery.com/authors-quarantine-cocktails/gini-dietrich
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PR, marketing and reputation expert, Gini Dietrich, joins host Deirdre Breakenridge on Women Worldwide. Gini is the Chief Executive Officer of Arment Dietrich, a Chicago-based integrated marketing communications firm and the author of two books, Spin Sucks: Communication and Reputation Management in the Digital Age and Marketing in the Round: How to Develop an Integrated Marketing Campaign in the Digital Era. On the show, Gini discusses how sex sells, analyzing the celebrity brand transformation of Miley Cyrus, who transitioned from wholesome, teen Disney star to sexy, twerking, wrecking ball music artist. With respect to companies, she shares the ways they can avoid the “spin” and hype and take a best practices approach to sharing good stories, "honestly, responsibly and authentically” to get their brands recognized. Gini also offers advice to listeners on the importance of building strong relationships and some tips for working with the media, knowing they may help you out when your reputation is on the line. A little more about Gini Dietrich … Gini is the lead blogger at Spin Sucks, the award-winning PR and marketing blog. Spin Sucks delivers the latest trends, hottest topics, and some controversial analysis on events from the worlds of PR, Digital Marketing and Communication. Gini is also the co-host of Inside PR, a weekly podcast about communications and social media. You can connect with Gini on LinkedIn and Twitter @GiniDietrich.
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In this episode of You University, I interview Gini Dietrich. Gini is the founder and CEO of Arment Dietrich, a Chicago-based integrated marketing communication firm. She also is the founder of the professional development site for PR and marketing pros, Spin Sucks Pro, author of Spin Sucks: Communication and Reputation Management in the Digital Age and co-author of Marketing In the Round. Ready to build your brand? Get your 15 Free Videos RIGHT NOW http://goo.gl/oDCqdL
Welcome to episode #013 of The Crisis Intelligence Podcast, with Melissa Agnes and Gini Dietrich Gini Dietrich is a passionate communications professional who has just launched a new book called “Spin Sucks: Communication and Reputation Management in the Digital Age”. Spin does suck and I had a blast discussing this and how to best manage [...] The post TCIP #013 – Spin Sucks with Gini Dietrich appeared first on The Crisis Intelligence Podcast.