Podcast appearances and mentions of Aminatou Sow

Being a pop culture fan naturally comes with a lot of opinions. You've got your favorites and you're ready to defend your picks at a moment's notice. But who's right, and who's just plain wrong? That's what Pop Culture Debate Club is here to decide. Each week, two notable mega-fans square off, ready to convince host Ronald Young Jr. that their opinion on TV, movies, music, and more is the only one that matters. And after carefully considering all the arguments, Ronald picks a winner. Will you agree with him?  This week, we're debating which political TV show is better: Veep or The West Wing? Two familiar voices square off this week, with former host Aminatou Sow returning to argue on behalf of Veep and previous guest Hrishikesh Hirway taking the side of The West Wing. This is not going to be an easy decision for host Ronald Young Jr. to make! Aminatou says that recent political headlines prove that Veep is a realistic portrayal of American politics, warts and all, while The West Wing is a liberal fantasy. Hrishi contends that The West Wing wasn't meant to be realistic and was rather an incredibly entertaining TV show, and that Veep's satire became too biting to be enjoyable. Which show will Ronald cast his vote for? If you want to hear more episodes, search for Pop Culture Debate Club wherever you get your podcasts or click the link in the show notes. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Being a pop culture fan naturally comes with a lot of opinions. You've got your favorites and you're ready to defend your picks at a moment's notice. But who's right, and who's just plain wrong? That's what Pop Culture Debate Club is here to decide. Each week, two notable mega-fans square off, ready to convince host Ronald Young Jr. that their opinion on TV, movies, music, and more is the only one that matters. And after carefully considering all the arguments, Ronald picks a winner. Will you agree with him?  This week, we're debating which political TV show is better: Veep or The West Wing? Two familiar voices square off this week, with former host Aminatou Sow returning to argue on behalf of Veep and previous guest Hrishikesh Hirway taking the side of The West Wing. This is not going to be an easy decision for host Ronald Young Jr. to make! Aminatou says that recent political headlines prove that Veep is a realistic portrayal of American politics, warts and all, while The West Wing is a liberal fantasy. Hrishi contends that The West Wing wasn't meant to be realistic and was rather an incredibly entertaining TV show, and that Veep's satire became too biting to be enjoyable. Which show will Ronald cast his vote for? If you want to hear more episodes, search for Pop Culture Debate Club wherever you get your podcasts or click here: https://lemonadamedia.com/show/pop-culture-debate-club-with-ronald-young-jr/ For a list of current sponsors and discount codes for this and every other Lemonada show, go to lemonadamedia.com/sponsors. Joining Lemonada Premium is a great way to support our show and get bonus content. Subscribe today at bit.ly/lemonadapremium.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

On this episode, Susanna Chapman, an illustrator who loves picture books, discusses her career in books, her love for an audiobook mausoleum, and why she loves the beginning of a book. We also destigmatize her concern around her main reading format and she tricks me into answering one of my own questions.    The Fastest Drummer: Clap Your Hands for Viola Smith  Pre-Order Dragonflies of Glass: the True Story of Clara Driscoll and the Tiffany Girls    Books mentioned in this episode:    What Betsy's reading:  The Ministry of Time by Kaliane Bradley  The City and It's Uncertain Walls by Haruki Murakami  How to Sell a Haunted House by Grady Hendrix    Books Highlighted by Susanna: Dim Sum Palace by X. Fang Twenty Questions by Mac Barnett & Christian Robinson This One Summer by Mariko Tamaki & Jillian Tamaki  Charlotte's Web by E.B. White Priestdaddy by Patricia Lockwood Alexander and the Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad Day by Judith Viorst & Ray Cruz The Four Agreements by Don Miguel Ruiz The Bear & The Moon by Matthew Burgess & Catia Chien I Talk Like a River by Jordan Scott & Sydney Smith Fish is Fish by Leo Lionni Daughters & Rebels by Jessica Mitford Goodnight Moon by Margaret Wise Brown Where Butterflies Fill the Sky: A Story of Immigration, Family, and Finding Home by Zahra Marwan It Came From the Trees by Ally Russel This Book is Anti-Racist: 20 Lessons on How to Wake Up, Take Action, and Do the Work by Tiffany Jewel & Aurelia Durand Life's Too Short to Pretend You're Not Religious by David Dark Exvangelical & Beyond: How American Christianity Went Radical and the Movement That's Fighting Back by Blake Chastain  How to Be An Anti-Racist by Ibram X. Kendi  The People's Plaza: Sixty-Two Days of Nonviolent Resistance by Justin Jones  Velveteen Rabbit by Margery Williams & William Nicholson  After the Fall by Dan Santat  Roaming by Jillian Tamaki & Mariko Tamaki    All books available on my Bookshop.org episode page.   Other books mentioned in this episode: Pride and Prejudice by Jane Austen Snail and Worm: Three Stories about Two Friends by Tina Kügler  The Crossover by Kwame Alexander & Dawud Anyabwile  Miss Rumphius by Barbara Cooney  Winnie-The-Pooh by A.A. Milne  The Snowy Day by Ezra Jack Keats  Seeing, Saying, Doing, Playing by Taro Gomi  Somebody's Daughter by Ashley C. Ford  Spinning by Tillie Walden  On Earth We're Briefly Gorgeous by Ocean Vuong  The Napping House by Audrey Wood & Don Wood  Jane Eyre by Charlotte Brontë East of Eden by John Steinbeck  The Grapes of Wrath by John Steinbeck  Big Friendship: How We Keep Each Other Close by Aminatou Sow & Ann Friedman  The Woman in Me by Britney Spears  I Was Their American Dream: A Graphic Memoir by Malaka Gharib It Won't Always Be Like This: A Graphic Memoir by Malaka Gharib My Year of Rest and Relaxation by Ottessa Moshefgh  The Left Hand of Darkness by Ursula K. Le Guin  The Comfort of Crows: A Backyard Year by Margaret Renkl  Late Migrations: A Natural History of Love and Loss by Margaret Renkl  Last Stop on Market Street by Matt de la Peña & Christian Robinson  Milo Imagines the World by Matt de la Peña & Christian Robinson  The Giving Tree by Shel Silverstein  Ulysses by James Joyce  The Phantom Tollbooth by Norton Juster & Jules Feiffer

Glynnis MacNicol is the author of three books including I'm Mostly Here to Enjoy Myself: One Woman's Pursuit of Pleasure and No One Tells You This. She wrote, produced, and hosted WILDER: A Reckoning with the Legacy of Laura Ingalls Wilder, and she writes the weekly newsletter Good Decisions. On today's show, Annmarie and Glynnis talk about seeking friendship and pleasure in Paris, the joys of middle age, and how to ask for what you want– and get it.    Episode Sponsors: Mostly Books – An independent bookstore in Tucson, Arizona, for readers of all ages. We offer a carefully curated selection of New & Used Books, Greeting Cards, T-shirts, and Gifts. Stop by our store in Tucson or buy books and Libro.fm audiobooks on our website: mostlybooksaz.com. Books Are Magic – A family-owned independent bookstore in Brooklyn, committed to being a welcoming, friendly, and inclusive space for all people. We believe that books are indeed magic and that literature is one of the best ways to create empathy, transportation, and transformation. Stop by or shop online at booksaremagic.net Books by Glynnis MacNicol I'm Mostly Here to Enjoy Myself No One Tells You This Becoming a Baker The 10 Habits of Highly Successful Women, co-authored with Rachel Sklar Other Authors and Titles Mentioned in This Episode: Big Friendship: How We Keep Each Other Close, by Aminatou Sow and Ann Friedman The Other Significant Others: Reimagining Life with Friendship at the Center, by Rhaina Cohen Here are the trailers for two Katharine Hepburn movies, Adam's Rib and Desk Set. Follow Glynnis MacNicol: Instagram: @noonetellsyouthis glynnismacnicol.com **Writing Workshops and Wish Fulfillment:  If you know you've been looking for the kind of female friendship Glynnis talks about in this interview and in her book, consider joining Annmarie and her co-leader, Phyllis Biffle Elmore, for a writing retreat in France! Learn more here.  You can travel to a beautiful place, meet other wise women, and write your own stories. We'd love to help you make that wish come true.  As of this moment, we only have 3 spots left, but you can click this link for $900 off.  The password is RetreatWriteRepeat  and the coupon code is 25AK In 2025, Annmarie is teaching online Tuesday nights for Writing Workshops. Learn more and register HERE. For her folks interested in an online Saturday morning writing class, message Annmarie to learn more.  Photo credit: Jamie Magnifico Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Which political TV show is better: Veep or The West Wing? Two familiar voices square off this week, with former host Aminatou Sow returning to argue on behalf of Veep and previous guest Hrishikesh Hirway taking the side of The West Wing. This is not going to be an easy decision for new host Ronald Young Jr. to make! Aminatou says that recent political headlines prove that Veep is a realistic portrayal of American politics, warts and all, while The West Wing is a liberal fantasy. Hrishi contends that The West Wing wasn't meant to be realistic and was rather an incredibly entertaining TV show, and that Veep's satire became too biting to be enjoyable. Which show will Ronald cast his vote for?   Follow Aminatou @aminatou on Instagram and X and Hrishi @hrishihirway on X and Instagram.   Keep up with Ronald Young Jr. @OhitsBIGRON on X and Instagram. And stay up to date with us @LemonadaMedia on X, Facebook, and Instagram.   For a list of current sponsors and discount codes for this and every other Lemonada show, go to lemonadamedia.com/sponsors.   Joining Lemonada Premium is a great way to support our show and get bonus content. Subscribe today at bit.ly/lemonadapremium.  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Which Love Island franchise is the best: the original UK or the upstart USA? British podcast host Will Njobvu and American magazine editor Nikki Ogunnaike are here to represent their homelands and do their best to sway Aminatou Sow to pick their show. Will says Love Island UK is real, raw, and vintage reality TV and finds the American version “a bit corny.” Nikki says that Season 6 of Love Island USA overtook the original with a diverse cast of people who had popular culture around the world in a stranglehold this summer. Which franchise will Aminatou declare the winner? Stick around to find out, and also catch some news about the show!   Follow Will @will_njo on X and Instagram and Nikki @nikkiogun on X and Instagram.   Keep up with Aminatou Sow @aminatou on Instagram and X. And stay up to date with us @LemonadaMedia on X, Facebook, and Instagram.   For a list of current sponsors and discount codes for this and every other Lemonada show, go to lemonadamedia.com/sponsors.   Joining Lemonada Premium is a great way to support our show and get bonus content. Subscribe today at bit.ly/lemonadapremium.  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Who is the truest New Yorker on Sex and the City? The hosts of 2 Black Girls, 1 Rose are here to make Aminatou Sow choose between Carrie Bradshaw and Samantha Jones. Justine Kay is Team Samantha – a sex-obsessed PR executive who lives in the Meatpacking District and whose girlboss ways Justine argues scream New York. Natasha Scott-Reichel comes representing Team Carrie – a fashion-loving sex columnist living on the Upper East Side who Natasha says embodies a NYC "It Girl." Whom will Aminatou declare the truest New Yorker on Sex and the City?   Follow Nastasha and Justine @2blackgirls1rose on Instagram.   Keep up with Aminatou Sow @aminatou on Instagram and X. And stay up to date with us @LemonadaMedia on X, Facebook, and Instagram.   For a list of current sponsors and discount codes for this and every other Lemonada show, go to lemonadamedia.com/sponsors.   Joining Lemonada Premium is a great way to support our show and get bonus content. Subscribe today at bit.ly/lemonadapremium.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Who is the worst fictional American abroad in pop culture? Two comedians square off this week and try to convince Aminatou Sow that their pick should be barred from international travel. Solomon Georgio wants to ban Indiana Jones from leaving America while David Gborie thinks it's Deuce Bigalow who needs to stay Stateside. Solomon says Indy steals antiquities and didn't stop Nazis when he had multiple chances. David isn't a fan of Deuce's homophobic language and use of racial stereotypes. Ultimately, Aminatou Sow must revoke one passport and declare the worst fictional American abroad.    Follow Solomon @solomongeorgio and David @coolguyjokes87on Instagram.   Keep up with Aminatou Sow @aminatou on Instagram and X. And stay up to date with us @LemonadaMedia on X, Facebook, and Instagram.   For a list of current sponsors and discount codes for this and every other Lemonada show, go to lemonadamedia.com/sponsors.   Joining Lemonada Premium is a great way to support our show and get bonus content. Subscribe today at bit.ly/lemonadapremium.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

We're excited to drop in your feed today to tell you about the Pop Culture Debate Club, a show from Lemonada Media and the BBC. Being a pop culture fan naturally comes with a lot of opinions. You've got your favorites and you're ready to defend your picks at a moment's notice. That's what Pop Culture Debate Club is all about. Each week, two notable mega-fans square off, ready to convince host Aminatou Sow that their opinion on TV, movies, and music is the only one that matters. And then Aminatou picks a winner. But we're all friends, so even though someone wins, no one loses.  You're about to hear an episode from Pop Culture Debate Club featuring our very own Deep Dive hosts, Jessica St. Clair and June Diane Raphael, as they debate which made-for-TV movie on the Lifetime Network is the best of all time. Jessica St. Clair chose Jackie's Back! (1999) and June Diane Raphael picked the 2016 remake of Mother, May I Sleep with Danger? But, how do you compare a shockingly star-studded mockumentary with a sexy vampire thriller? That's Aminatou Sow's challenge this week! She does her best to weigh the pros and cons of each pick and also puts June and Jess's love of Lifetime movies to the test in a lightning round where they have to suss out real movie plots from made-up ones – all in order to decide which Lifetime original movie is the best ever. If you like this episode, head to Pop Culture Debate Club wherever you get your podcasts to hear more.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Which is the better franchise: the original Bachelor/Bachelorette or the spin-off, Bachelor in Paradise? Podcast host Traci Thomas loves the original franchise while radio host Mariah Smith prefers the spin-off, and they're both here today to convince Aminatou Sow that their pick should win. Traci loves the drama and romance of the Bachelor/Bachelorette and thinks that Bachelor in Paradise always fizzles toward the end of the season. Mariah argues that Bachelor in Paradise has had more successful couples come from it and says people only go on The Bachelor/Bachelorette to end up on Paradise anyway. Ultimately, Aminatou must decide which show will receive her final rose. Follow Traci @biTRACIal on X and Mariah @mRiah on X and @mariahmariahmariah on Instagram. Keep up with Aminatou Sow @aminatou on Instagram and X. And stay up to date with us @LemonadaMedia on X, Facebook, and Instagram. For a list of current sponsors and discount codes for this and every other Lemonada show, go to lemonadamedia.com/sponsors. Joining Lemonada Premium is a great way to support our show and get bonus content. Subscribe today at bit.ly/lemonadapremium.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

It's our first literary – and marital – debate! Which is the best way to consume books: audiobooks or paper books? Essayist and critic Maris Kreizman prefers to listen to her books while comedian Josh Gondelman wants to physically hold what he's reading. And their job today is to convince Aminatou Sow to pick their preferred format. Maris loves that audiobooks allow her to multitask and thinks the reading experience can be enhanced when an author reads their own work aloud. Josh loves being forced to only focus on the words when he's reading a book and wants to interpret the works for himself without someone else's performance influencing him. Aminatou must consider the arguments on both sides and declare a winner in the battle between audiobooks and paper books.   Follow Maris @mariskreizman on X and Instagram and Josh @joshgondelman on X and Instagram.   Keep up with Aminatou Sow @aminatou on Instagram and X. And stay up to date with us @LemonadaMedia on X, Facebook, and Instagram.   For a list of current sponsors and discount codes for this and every other Lemonada show, go to lemonadamedia.com/sponsors.   Joining Lemonada Premium is a great way to support our show and get bonus content. Subscribe today at bit.ly/lemonadapremium.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Who is the worst lawyer on TV? Author and TV writer Samantha Irby says it's Will Gardner from The Good Wife and writer and podcast host Josie Duffy Rice picks Rusty Sabich from Presumed Innocent. One's a prosecutor, the other a defense attorney. One's accused of murder, the other bribing a judge. And they both make questionable romantic decisions. Aminatou Sow must render her verdict and declare which of the two is the worst lawyer on television.   Follow Sam @bitchesgottaeat on Instagram and Josie @jduffyrice on X and Instagram.   Keep up with Aminatou Sow @aminatou on Instagram and X. And stay up to date with us @LemonadaMedia on X, Facebook, and Instagram.   For a list of current sponsors and discount codes for this and every other Lemonada show, go to lemonadamedia.com/sponsors.   Joining Lemonada Premium is a great way to support our show and get bonus content. Subscribe today at bit.ly/lemonadapremium.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

What is the best on-screen depiction of motherhood? Parenting columnist Amil Niazi picks the TV show Better Things and journalist Jane Marie chooses the 1958 movie Auntie Mame, leaving Aminatou Sow with the unenviable task of selecting a winner. Which of the two better captures the highs and lows of motherhood? How do you compare someone who chose to be a mom with someone who had motherhood thrust upon them? And how will Amil's baby attending the recording affect Aminatou's choice? As ever, it's up to her to decide as she determines which TV show or movie best portrays motherhood.   Follow Amil @amil on X and Jane @SeeJaneMarie on X and Instagram.   Keep up with Aminatou Sow @aminatou on Instagram and X. And stay up to date with us @LemonadaMedia on X, Facebook, and Instagram.   For a list of current sponsors and discount codes for this and every other Lemonada show, go to lemonadamedia.com/sponsors.   Joining Lemonada Premium is a great way to support our show and get bonus content. Subscribe today at bit.ly/lemonadapremium.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Which made-for-TV movie on the Lifetime Network is the best of all time? The co-hosts of The Deep Dive take sides, with Jessica St. Clair choosing Jackie's Back! (1999) and June Diane Raphael picking the 2016 remake of Mother, May I Sleep with Danger? But, how do you compare a shockingly star-studded mockumentary with a sexy vampire thriller? That's Aminatou Sow's challenge this week! She does her best to weigh the pros and cons of each pick and also puts June and Jess's love of Lifetime movies to the test in a lightning round where they have to suss out real movie plots from made-up ones – all in order to decide which Lifetime original movie is the best ever.   Follow June @MsJuneDiane on X and @junediane Instagram and Jess @Jessica_StClair on X and @stclairjessica on Instagram.   Keep up with Aminatou Sow @aminatou on Instagram and X. And stay up to date with us @LemonadaMedia on X, Facebook, and Instagram.   For a list of current sponsors and discount codes for this and every other Lemonada show, go to lemonadamedia.com/sponsors.   Joining Lemonada Premium is a great way to support our show and get bonus content. Subscribe today at bit.ly/lemonadapremium.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Which Real Housewives franchise is the best of all time: New York or Beverly Hills? The Watch What Crappens podcast co-hosts square off – Ben Mandelker is team RHONY while Ronnie Karam is repping Beverly Hills – to try and get Aminatou Sow to select their respective installment as the winner. Who's the bigger villain, Ramona Singer or Camille Grammer? How does Yolanda Foster's “almond mom” moment compare to Bethenny Frankel's Skinnygirl empire? And what do we even do with the RHONY reboot? Aminatou considers all of these questions and more on her way to declaring the best Real Housewives franchise ever.   Follow Ben @benmandelker on X and Instagram and Ronnie @ronniekaram on X and Instagram.   Keep up with Aminatou Sow @aminatou on Instagram and X. And stay up to date with us @LemonadaMedia on X, Facebook, and Instagram.   For a list of current sponsors and discount codes for this and every other Lemonada show, go to lemonadamedia.com/sponsors.   Joining Lemonada Premium is a great way to support our show and get bonus content. Subscribe today at bit.ly/lemonadapremium.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

We're excited to drop in your feed today to tell you about a new series from Lemonada Media and the BBC: Pop Culture Debate Club with Aminatou Sow. Being a pop culture fan naturally comes with a lot of opinions. You've got your favorites and you're ready to defend your picks at a moment's notice. That's what Pop Culture Debate Club is all about. Each week, two notable mega-fans square off, ready to convince host Aminatou Sow that their opinion on TV, movies, and music is the only one that matters. And then Aminatou picks a winner. But we're all friends, so even though someone wins, no one loses. You're about to hear a the first episode of Pop Culture Debate Club, where Aminatou Sow must pick between actor Carl Tart's choice of the original Space Jam and TV writer Lamar Woods's selection of D2: The Mighty Ducks for the best sports film of all time.  To hear more of Pop Culture Debate Club, head to: https://lemonada.lnk.to/7JiEmtfdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Which feast from a film would you most want to eat? Podcaster Hrishikesh Hirway would like to slurp up the noodles from In the Mood for Love (2000) while podcaster and cookbook author Dan Pashman craves the cheeseburger from The Menu (2022). And their task in today's episode is to do their best to convince Aminatou Sow that their dish should reign supreme. Which is more compelling, the comfort of the noodles or the creative spark of the cheeseburger? Which food plays a more pivotal role in its respective movie? And perhaps a surprising consideration, which dish is accompanied by the better music? Aminatou weighs these factors and more when deciding which movie feast she'd order for herself.   Follow Hrishikesh @hrishihirway on X and Instagram and Dan @thesporkful on X and Instagram.   Keep up with Aminatou Sow @aminatou on Instagram and X. And stay up to date with us @LemonadaMedia on X, Facebook, and Instagram.   For a list of current sponsors and discount codes for this and every other Lemonada show, go to lemonadamedia.com/sponsors.   Joining Lemonada Premium is a great way to support our show and get bonus content. Subscribe today at bit.ly/lemonadapremium.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

What is the most important hip hop movie of all time? Journalist Bomani Jones says it's House Party (1990), while rapper Fat Tony picks CB4 (1993). After hearing from both sides, Aminatou Sow must choose one as the winner, and it's not an easy pick! How does CB4's look at the fetishization of gangsta rappers by the music industry compare to House Party's subtle examination of class and Blackness in American society? Which is more damning, the early-90s-era homophobia in CB4 or the old actors playing high school kids in House Party? And since we're talking about hip hop, which movie has the better music? There's so much for Aminatou to think about before crowning the most important hip hop film of all time.   Follow Bomani Jones @bomani_jones on X and Instagram and Fat Tony @fattonyrap on X and Instagram.   Keep up with Aminatou Sow @aminatou on Instagram and X. And stay up to date with us @LemonadaMedia on X, Facebook, and Instagram.   For a list of current sponsors and discount codes for this and every other Lemonada show, go to lemonadamedia.com/sponsors.   Joining Lemonada Premium is a great way to support our show and get bonus content. Subscribe today at bit.ly/lemonadapremium.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

We're excited to drop in your feed today to tell you about a new series from Lemonada Media and the BBC: Pop Culture Debate Club with Aminatou Sow. Being a pop culture fan naturally comes with a lot of opinions. You've got your favorites and you're ready to defend your picks at a moment's notice. That's what Pop Culture Debate Club is all about. Each week, two notable mega-fans square off, ready to convince host Aminatou Sow that their opinion on TV, movies, and music is the only one that matters. And then Aminatou picks a winner. But we're all friends, so even though someone wins, no one loses.   You're about to hear the first episode of Pop Culture Debate Club, where Aminatou Sow must pick between actor Carl Tart's choice of the original Space Jam and TV writer Lamar Woods's selection of D2: The Mighty Ducks for the best sports film of all time.    To hear more of Pop Culture Debate Club, head to: https://lemonada.lnk.to/7JiEmtfdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

We're excited to drop in your feed today to tell you about a new series from Lemonada Media and the BBC: Pop Culture Debate Club with Aminatou Sow. Being a pop culture fan naturally comes with a lot of opinions. You've got your favorites and you're ready to defend your picks at a moment's notice. That's what Pop Culture Debate Club is all about. Each week, two notable mega-fans square off, ready to convince host Aminatou Sow that their opinion on TV, movies, and music is the only one that matters. And then Aminatou picks a winner. But we're all friends, so even though someone wins, no one loses.   You're about to hear the first episode of Pop Culture Debate Club, where Aminatou Sow must pick between actor Carl Tart's choice of the original Space Jam and TV writer Lamar Woods's selection of D2: The Mighty Ducks for the best sports film of all time.    To hear more of Pop Culture Debate Club, head to: https://lemonada.lnk.to/7JiEmtfdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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We're excited to drop in your feed today to tell you about a new series from Lemonada Media and the BBC: Pop Culture Debate Club with Aminatou Sow. Being a pop culture fan naturally comes with a lot of opinions. You've got your favorites and you're ready to defend your picks at a moment's notice. That's what Pop Culture Debate Club is all about. Each week, two notable mega-fans square off, ready to convince host Aminatou Sow that their opinion on TV, movies, and music is the only one that matters. And then Aminatou picks a winner. But we're all friends, so even though someone wins, no one loses. You're about to hear a preview of the first episode of Pop Culture Debate Club, where Aminatou Sow must pick between actor Carl Tart's choice of the original Space Jam and TV writer Lamar Woods's selection of D2: The Mighty Ducks for the best sports film of all time.  To hear more of Pop Culture Debate Club, head to: https://lemonada.lnk.to/7JiEmtfdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

We're excited to drop in your feed today to tell you about a new series from Lemonada Media and the BBC: Pop Culture Debate Club with Aminatou Sow. Being a pop culture fan naturally comes with a lot of opinions. You've got your favorites and you're ready to defend your picks at a moment's notice. That's what Pop Culture Debate Club is all about. Each week, two notable mega-fans square off, ready to convince host Aminatou Sow that their opinion on TV, movies, and music is the only one that matters. And then Aminatou picks a winner. But we're all friends, so even though someone wins, no one loses. You're about to hear a preview of the first episode of Pop Culture Debate Club, where Aminatou Sow must pick between actor Carl Tart's choice of the original Space Jam and TV writer Lamar Woods's selection of D2: The Mighty Ducks for the best sports film of all time.  To hear more of Pop Culture Debate Club, head to: https://lemonada.lnk.to/7JiEmtfdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

We're excited to drop in your feed today to tell you about a new series from Lemonada Media and the BBC: Pop Culture Debate Club with Aminatou Sow. Being a pop culture fan naturally comes with a lot of opinions. You've got your favorites and you're ready to defend your picks at a moment's notice. That's what Pop Culture Debate Club is all about. Each week, two notable mega-fans square off, ready to convince host Aminatou Sow that their opinion on TV, movies, and music is the only one that matters. And then Aminatou picks a winner. But we're all friends, so even though someone wins, no one loses. You're about to hear a preview of the first episode of Pop Culture Debate Club, where Aminatou Sow must pick between actor Carl Tart's choice of the original Space Jam and TV writer Lamar Woods's selection of D2: The Mighty Ducks for the best sports film of all time.  To hear more of Pop Culture Debate Club, head to: https://lemonada.lnk.to/7JiEmtfdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

We're excited to drop in your feed today to tell you about a new series from Lemonada Media and the BBC: Pop Culture Debate Club with Aminatou Sow. Being a pop culture fan naturally comes with a lot of opinions. You've got your favorites and you're ready to defend your picks at a moment's notice. That's what Pop Culture Debate Club is all about. Each week, two notable mega-fans square off, ready to convince host Aminatou Sow that their opinion on TV, movies, and music is the only one that matters. And then Aminatou picks a winner. But we're all friends, so even though someone wins, no one loses. You're about to hear a preview of the first episode of Pop Culture Debate Club, where Aminatou Sow must pick between actor Carl Tart's choice of the original Space Jam and TV writer Lamar Woods's selection of D2: The Mighty Ducks for the best sports film of all time.  To hear more of Pop Culture Debate Club, head to: https://lemonada.lnk.to/7JiEmtfdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

We're excited to drop in your feed today to tell you about a new series from Lemonada Media and the BBC: Pop Culture Debate Club with Aminatou Sow. Being a pop culture fan naturally comes with a lot of opinions. You've got your favorites and you're ready to defend your picks at a moment's notice. That's what Pop Culture Debate Club is all about. Each week, two notable mega-fans square off, ready to convince host Aminatou Sow that their opinion on TV, movies, and music is the only one that matters. And then Aminatou picks a winner. But we're all friends, so even though someone wins, no one loses. You're about to hear a preview of the first episode of Pop Culture Debate Club, where Aminatou Sow must pick between actor Carl Tart's choice of the original Space Jam and TV writer Lamar Woods's selection of D2: The Mighty Ducks for the best sports film of all time.  To hear more of Pop Culture Debate Club, head to: https://lemonada.lnk.to/7JiEmtfdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

We're excited to drop in your feed today to tell you about a new series from Lemonada Media and the BBC: Pop Culture Debate Club with Aminatou Sow. Being a pop culture fan naturally comes with a lot of opinions. You've got your favorites and you're ready to defend your picks at a moment's notice. That's what Pop Culture Debate Club is all about. Each week, two notable mega-fans square off, ready to convince host Aminatou Sow that their opinion on TV, movies, and music is the only one that matters. And then Aminatou picks a winner. But we're all friends, so even though someone wins, no one loses. You're about to hear a preview of the first episode of Pop Culture Debate Club, where Aminatou Sow must pick between actor Carl Tart's choice of the original Space Jam and TV writer Lamar Woods's selection of D2: The Mighty Ducks for the best sports film of all time.  To hear more of Pop Culture Debate Club, head to: https://lemonada.lnk.to/7JiEmtfdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

We're excited to drop in your feed today to tell you about a new series from Lemonada Media and the BBC: Pop Culture Debate Club with Aminatou Sow. Being a pop culture fan naturally comes with a lot of opinions. You've got your favorites and you're ready to defend your picks at a moment's notice. That's what Pop Culture Debate Club is all about. Each week, two notable mega-fans square off, ready to convince host Aminatou Sow that their opinion on TV, movies, and music is the only one that matters. And then Aminatou picks a winner. But we're all friends, so even though someone wins, no one loses. You're about to hear a preview of the first episode of Pop Culture Debate Club, where Aminatou Sow must pick between actor Carl Tart's choice of the original Space Jam and TV writer Lamar Woods's selection of D2: The Mighty Ducks for the best sports film of all time.  To hear more of Pop Culture Debate Club, head to: https://lemonada.lnk.to/7JiEmtfdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

We're excited to drop in your feed today to tell you about a new series from Lemonada Media and the BBC: Pop Culture Debate Club with Aminatou Sow. Being a pop culture fan naturally comes with a lot of opinions. You've got your favorites and you're ready to defend your picks at a moment's notice. That's what Pop Culture Debate Club is all about. Each week, two notable mega-fans square off, ready to convince host Aminatou Sow that their opinion on TV, movies, and music is the only one that matters. And then Aminatou picks a winner. But we're all friends, so even though someone wins, no one loses. You're about to hear a preview of the first episode of Pop Culture Debate Club, where Aminatou Sow must pick between actor Carl Tart's choice of the original Space Jam and TV writer Lamar Woods's selection of D2: The Mighty Ducks for the best sports film of all time.  To hear more of Pop Culture Debate Club, head to: https://lemonada.lnk.to/7JiEmtfdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

We're excited to drop in your feed today to tell you about a new series from Lemonada Media and the BBC: Pop Culture Debate Club with Aminatou Sow. Being a pop culture fan naturally comes with a lot of opinions. You've got your favorites and you're ready to defend your picks at a moment's notice. That's what Pop Culture Debate Club is all about. Each week, two notable mega-fans square off, ready to convince host Aminatou Sow that their opinion on TV, movies, and music is the only one that matters. And then Aminatou picks a winner. But we're all friends, so even though someone wins, no one loses. You're about to hear a preview of the first episode of Pop Culture Debate Club, where Aminatou Sow must pick between actor Carl Tart's choice of the original Space Jam and TV writer Lamar Woods's selection of D2: The Mighty Ducks for the best sports film of all time.  To hear more of Pop Culture Debate Club, head to: https://lemonada.lnk.to/7JiEmtfdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

We're excited to drop in your feed today to tell you about a new series from Lemonada Media and the BBC: Pop Culture Debate Club with Aminatou Sow. Being a pop culture fan naturally comes with a lot of opinions. You've got your favorites and you're ready to defend your picks at a moment's notice. That's what Pop Culture Debate Club is all about. Each week, two notable mega-fans square off, ready to convince host Aminatou Sow that their opinion on TV, movies, and music is the only one that matters. And then Aminatou picks a winner. But we're all friends, so even though someone wins, no one loses. You're about to hear a preview of the first episode of Pop Culture Debate Club, where Aminatou Sow must pick between actor Carl Tart's choice of the original Space Jam and TV writer Lamar Woods's selection of D2: The Mighty Ducks for the best sports film of all time.  To hear more of Pop Culture Debate Club, head to: https://lemonada.lnk.to/7JiEmtfdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

We're excited to drop in your feed today to tell you about a new series from Lemonada Media and the BBC: Pop Culture Debate Club with Aminatou Sow. Being a pop culture fan naturally comes with a lot of opinions. You've got your favorites and you're ready to defend your picks at a moment's notice. That's what Pop Culture Debate Club is all about. Each week, two notable mega-fans square off, ready to convince host Aminatou Sow that their opinion on TV, movies, and music is the only one that matters. And then Aminatou picks a winner. But we're all friends, so even though someone wins, no one loses. You're about to hear a preview of the first episode of Pop Culture Debate Club, where Aminatou Sow must pick between actor Carl Tart's choice of the original Space Jam and TV writer Lamar Woods's selection of D2: The Mighty Ducks for the best sports film of all time.  To hear more of Pop Culture Debate Club, head to: https://lemonada.lnk.to/7JiEmtfdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

We're excited to drop in your feed today to tell you about a new series from Lemonada Media and the BBC: Pop Culture Debate Club with Aminatou Sow. Being a pop culture fan naturally comes with a lot of opinions. You've got your favorites and you're ready to defend your picks at a moment's notice. That's what Pop Culture Debate Club is all about. Each week, two notable mega-fans square off, ready to convince host Aminatou Sow that their opinion on TV, movies, and music is the only one that matters. And then Aminatou picks a winner. But we're all friends, so even though someone wins, no one loses. You're about to hear a preview of the first episode of Pop Culture Debate Club, where Aminatou Sow must pick between actor Carl Tart's choice of the original Space Jam and TV writer Lamar Woods's selection of D2: The Mighty Ducks for the best sports film of all time.  To hear more of Pop Culture Debate Club, head to: https://lemonada.lnk.to/7JiEmtfdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

We're excited to drop in your feed today to tell you about a new series from Lemonada Media and the BBC: Pop Culture Debate Club with Aminatou Sow. Being a pop culture fan naturally comes with a lot of opinions. You've got your favorites and you're ready to defend your picks at a moment's notice. That's what Pop Culture Debate Club is all about. Each week, two notable mega-fans square off, ready to convince host Aminatou Sow that their opinion on TV, movies, and music is the only one that matters. And then Aminatou picks a winner. But we're all friends, so even though someone wins, no one loses. You're about to hear a preview of the first episode of Pop Culture Debate Club, where Aminatou Sow must pick between actor Carl Tart's choice of the original Space Jam and TV writer Lamar Woods's selection of D2: The Mighty Ducks for the best sports film of all time.  To hear more of Pop Culture Debate Club, head to: https://lemonada.lnk.to/7JiEmtfdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

We're excited to drop in your feed today to tell you about a new series from Lemonada Media and the BBC: Pop Culture Debate Club with Aminatou Sow. Being a pop culture fan naturally comes with a lot of opinions. You've got your favorites and you're ready to defend your picks at a moment's notice. That's what Pop Culture Debate Club is all about. Each week, two notable mega-fans square off, ready to convince host Aminatou Sow that their opinion on TV, movies, and music is the only one that matters. And then Aminatou picks a winner. But we're all friends, so even though someone wins, no one loses. You're about to hear a preview of the first episode of Pop Culture Debate Club, where Aminatou Sow must pick between actor Carl Tart's choice of the original Space Jam and TV writer Lamar Woods's selection of D2: The Mighty Ducks for the best sports film of all time.  To hear more of Pop Culture Debate Club, head to: https://lemonada.lnk.to/7JiEmtfdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

We're excited to drop in your feed today to tell you about a new series from Lemonada Media and the BBC: Pop Culture Debate Club with Aminatou Sow. Being a pop culture fan naturally comes with a lot of opinions. You've got your favorites and you're ready to defend your picks at a moment's notice. That's what Pop Culture Debate Club is all about. Each week, two notable mega-fans square off, ready to convince host Aminatou Sow that their opinion on TV, movies, and music is the only one that matters. And then Aminatou picks a winner. But we're all friends, so even though someone wins, no one loses. You're about to hear a preview of the first episode of Pop Culture Debate Club, where Aminatou Sow must pick between actor Carl Tart's choice of the original Space Jam and TV writer Lamar Woods's selection of D2: The Mighty Ducks for the best sports film of all time.  To hear more of Pop Culture Debate Club, head to: https://lemonada.lnk.to/7JiEmtfdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

We're excited to drop in your feed today to tell you about a new series from Lemonada Media and the BBC: Pop Culture Debate Club with Aminatou Sow. Being a pop culture fan naturally comes with a lot of opinions. You've got your favorites and you're ready to defend your picks at a moment's notice. That's what Pop Culture Debate Club is all about. Each week, two notable mega-fans square off, ready to convince host Aminatou Sow that their opinion on TV, movies, and music is the only one that matters. And then Aminatou picks a winner. But we're all friends, so even though someone wins, no one loses. You're about to hear a preview of the first episode of Pop Culture Debate Club, where Aminatou Sow must pick between actor Carl Tart's choice of the original Space Jam and TV writer Lamar Woods's selection of D2: The Mighty Ducks for the best sports film of all time.  To hear more of Pop Culture Debate Club, head to: https://lemonada.lnk.to/7JiEmtfdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

We're excited to drop in your feed today to tell you about a new series from Lemonada Media and the BBC: Pop Culture Debate Club with Aminatou Sow. Being a pop culture fan naturally comes with a lot of opinions. You've got your favorites and you're ready to defend your picks at a moment's notice. That's what Pop Culture Debate Club is all about. Each week, two notable mega-fans square off, ready to convince host Aminatou Sow that their opinion on TV, movies, and music is the only one that matters. And then Aminatou picks a winner. But we're all friends, so even though someone wins, no one loses. You're about to hear a preview of the first episode of Pop Culture Debate Club, where Aminatou Sow must pick between actor Carl Tart's choice of the original Space Jam and TV writer Lamar Woods's selection of D2: The Mighty Ducks for the best sports film of all time.  To hear more of Pop Culture Debate Club, head to: https://lemonada.lnk.to/7JiEmtfdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

We're excited to drop in your feed today to tell you about a new series from Lemonada Media and the BBC: Pop Culture Debate Club with Aminatou Sow. Being a pop culture fan naturally comes with a lot of opinions. You've got your favorites and you're ready to defend your picks at a moment's notice. That's what Pop Culture Debate Club is all about. Each week, two notable mega-fans square off, ready to convince host Aminatou Sow that their opinion on TV, movies, and music is the only one that matters. And then Aminatou picks a winner. But we're all friends, so even though someone wins, no one loses. You're about to hear a preview of the first episode of Pop Culture Debate Club, where Aminatou Sow must pick between actor Carl Tart's choice of the original Space Jam and TV writer Lamar Woods's selection of D2: The Mighty Ducks for the best sports film of all time.  To hear more of Pop Culture Debate Club, head to: https://lemonada.lnk.to/7JiEmtfdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

We're excited to drop in your feed today to tell you about a new series from Lemonada Media and the BBC: Pop Culture Debate Club with Aminatou Sow. Being a pop culture fan naturally comes with a lot of opinions. You've got your favorites and you're ready to defend your picks at a moment's notice. That's what Pop Culture Debate Club is all about. Each week, two notable mega-fans square off, ready to convince host Aminatou Sow that their opinion on TV, movies, and music is the only one that matters. And then Aminatou picks a winner. But we're all friends, so even though someone wins, no one loses. You're about to hear a preview of the first episode of Pop Culture Debate Club, where Aminatou Sow must pick between actor Carl Tart's choice of the original Space Jam and TV writer Lamar Woods's selection of D2: The Mighty Ducks for the best sports film of all time.  To hear more of Pop Culture Debate Club, head to: https://lemonada.lnk.to/7JiEmtfdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

We're excited to drop in your feed today to tell you about a new series from Lemonada Media and the BBC: Pop Culture Debate Club with Aminatou Sow. Being a pop culture fan naturally comes with a lot of opinions. You've got your favorites and you're ready to defend your picks at a moment's notice. That's what Pop Culture Debate Club is all about. Each week, two notable mega-fans square off, ready to convince host Aminatou Sow that their opinion on TV, movies, and music is the only one that matters. And then Aminatou picks a winner. But we're all friends, so even though someone wins, no one loses. You're about to hear a preview of the first episode of Pop Culture Debate Club, where Aminatou Sow must pick between actor Carl Tart's choice of the original Space Jam and TV writer Lamar Woods's selection of D2: The Mighty Ducks for the best sports film of all time.  To hear more of Pop Culture Debate Club, head to: https://lemonada.lnk.to/7JiEmtfdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Aminatou Sow must pick between actor Carl Tart's choice of the original Space Jam and TV writer Lamar Woods's selection of D2: The Mighty Ducks. Which is a more fearsome opponent, aliens or Iceland? Who is a better coach, Michael Jordan or Gordon Bombay? How realistic is the sports action in each film? Which one better stands up to the test of time? Aminatou asks these questions and more in order to crown the best sports film of all time.   Follow Carl Tart @dammitcarl and Lamar Woods @prophmatic on Instagram.   Keep up with Aminatou Sow @aminatou on Instagram and X. And stay up to date with us @LemonadaMedia on X, Facebook, and Instagram.   For a list of current sponsors and discount codes for this and every other Lemonada show, go to lemonadamedia.com/sponsors.   Joining Lemonada Premium is a great way to support our show and get bonus content. Subscribe today at bit.ly/lemonadapremium.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Which TV ensemble would make for a better hang: journalist Candice Lim's choice of New Girl or audio producer Ronald Young Jr.'s pick of Community? That's up to Aminatou Sow to decide! Would you rather spend time with a crew who are all at the prime TV cool age (aka late 20s/early 30s), or with people of all ages and backgrounds? Which show had the better guest stars … and the better hijinks? And how does Jess's quirkiness compare with Pierce's problematic ways? Aminatou weighs the answers to these questions and more to decide which cast would be more fun to add to her social circle.   Follow Candice Lim @thecandicelim on X and Ronald Young Jr @OhitsBIGRON on X and Instagram.   Keep up with Aminatou Sow @aminatou on Instagram and X. And stay up to date with us @LemonadaMedia on X, Facebook, and Instagram.   For a list of current sponsors and discount codes for this and every other Lemonada show, go to lemonadamedia.com/sponsors.   Joining Lemonada Premium is a great way to support our show and get bonus content. Subscribe today at bit.ly/lemonadapremium.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Get ready for some pop culture hot takes! Each week, two notable pop culture aficionados do their best to convince host Aminatou Sow that their pick should win in a variety of creative face-offs between unlikely adversaries. Which TV cast would you most want to hang out with? What's the best sports movie ever made? Who's the best mother in media? And what fictional film feast is the one you most want to eat? Who will prevail? Find out starting on June 27.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Aminatou Sow discusses her extraordinary journey that took her from Africa to Texas, from a job in a toy store to Google to co-host of one of today's most brilliant podcasts, Call Your Girlfriend.

Hannah and Laura chat about being millenials, the Marvel Cinematic Universe, and movies about baboons and hearts and baboon hearts. Then they cover the last third of Legendborn by Tracy Deonn. Buckle up, because things really pick up in this last section of the plot!*Apologies for sound issues on Hannah's end. Her microphone broke 2 seconds before recording, so she might not sound the clearest this week.*SPOILERS FOR LEGENDBORN BEGIN AT 44min 25sec. DO NOT LISTEN PAST THIS POINT IF YOU HAVE NOT READ LEGENDBORN. Or skip the beginning and go straight to the plot section if that's what you're here for. :)TW for the plot section: Sexual Assault; Rape; Slavery; Violence; Racism; Death Media Mentions:Legendborn by Tracy DeonnFBoL podcastThe Girl Friday series by Emily EdwardsGirl, Wash Your Face by Rachel Hollis99% Invisible podcastHercule Poirot's Christmas by Agatha ChristieAnd Then There Were None by Agatha ChristieHeartstopper Vol. 5 by Alice OsemanHeartstopper---NetflixMs. Marvel---Disney+Loki---Disney+Echo---Disney+Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings---Disney+Black Panther: Wakanda Forever---Disney+What If?---Disney+Daredevil---Disney+Jessica Jones---Disney+The Punisher---Disney+The Defenders---Disney+Luke Cage---Disney+The Iron Fist---Disney+The Falcon and the Winter Soldier---Disney+The Incredible Hulk---Disney+Iron Man---Disney+Iron Man 2---Disney+Thor---Disney+Thor: The Dark World---Disney+She-Hulk---Disney+Guardians of the Galaxy 2---Disney+Secret Invasion---Disney+Daughter of Flood and Fury by Levi JacobsMy Best Friend's Wedding---NetflixReturn to Me---Amazon Prime VideoLeap Year---PeacockAnastasia---Disney+The Adventures of Tintin---Paramount+Big Friendship by Aminatou Sow and Ann FriedmanThe Wheel of Time by Robert Jordan and Brandon SandersonParks & Recreation---PeacockBarbie---HBOmaxBe sure to follow OWWR Pod!www.owwrpod.com Twitter: @OwwrPodBlueSky: @OwwrPodTikTok: @OwwrPodInstagram: @owwrpodThreads: @OwwrPodHive: @owwrpodSend us an email at: owwrpod@gmail.comCheck out OWWR Patreon: patreon.com/owwrpodOr join OWWR Discord! We'd love to chat with you!You can follow Hannah at:Instagram: @brews.and.booksThreads: @brews.and.booksTikTok: @brews.and.booksYou can follow Laura at:Instagram: @goodbooksgreatgoatsTwitter: @myyypodBlueSky: @myyypodHive: @myyypod

Happy holidays! As our team takes some time away for a break, we're re-sharing another part of our "Future of" miniseries that originally aired in March 2022. From the original description: BFF connections have transformed rapidly during the COVID-19 pandemic. FaceTime calls, Zoom happy hours, voice memos, group chats and virtual game nights, in many cases, have reworked our in-person interactions of the past. What does the future of friendship look like? Ann Friedman and Aminatou Sow have been friends for over a decade, twelve years to be exact. Living on opposite coasts for years now, they had a head start on managing a long-distance friendship. Ann, a journalist, essayist and media entrepreneur and Aminatou, a writer, interviewer and cultural commentator, co-wrote “Big Friendship,” a book all about maintaining their close bond. They join for an inspiring conversation about the future of friendship and what it takes to stay connected for the long haul.

Coming through with some thoughts on the intersection of friendship and ambition, covered wagon core (not to be confused with cottagecore!), and ~summer movies~.Following up on our Wilder conversation, we'd like to discuss covered wagon core. See Kim K.'s CR Fashion Book spread “The Pioneer Woman,” Rudy Jude, Salter House, and making jam. Re: actual covered wagons, Conestoga does a luxe wagon and a bar wagon, both, and Pioneer Woman has a roundup of campgrounds with covered wagons.Rainesford Stauffer's “We Should Be Ambitious About Our Friendships” for Elle sparked our convo about friendship ambition—she's also the author of An Ordinary Age: Finding Your Way in a World That Expects Exceptional and the new All the Gold Stars: Reimagining Ambition and the Ways We Strive. We love this tweet about friendship discussion agendas. As for books, this topic calls to mind Courtney Martin's The New Better Off, Kayleen Schaefer's Text Me When You Get Home, Aminatou Sow and Ann Friedman's Big Friendship, and Hua Hsu's Stay True. On our TBR list: Sheila Liming's Hanging Out: The Radical Power of Killing Time. (In the meantime: “The Case for Hanging Out” by Dan Kois for Slate and The Ezra Klein Show episode "The ‘Quiet Catastrophe' Brewing in Our Social Lives.") Bring on the summer movies! Obsessed with Past Lives, itching to see Theater Camp, Joy Ride, Problemista (see also: I Want to Be a Vase by Julio Torres), Red, White, & Royal Blue, Challengers, and, of course, Barbie (all the prophecies, including Margot Robbie in Vogue and Greta Gerwig in Gentlewoman, whet the appetite).Do you have easy, low-pressure ways to keep up with friends? Let us know at 833-632-5463, podcast@athingortwohq.com, or @athingortwohq—or join our Geneva! And for more recommendations, try out a Secret Menu membership. This episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct, or indirect financial interest in products, or services referred to in this episode.Turn to Shopify for all your ecomm needs and get a free 14-day trial with our link.Find more weeknight dinner recipes at Pillsbury.com. Take advantage of the Partner to Empower program for entrepreneurs of color from Brookfield Properties—apply by August 11.YAY.Produced by Dear MediaSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Aminatou Sow is the New York Times–bestselling author of Big Friendship, which she co-wrote with her best friend Ann Friedman. In today's conversation with Cleo Wade, Sow reflects on how going to therapy with Friedman helped them emerge as different but deeper friends. Sow also talks through friendship endings, and she shares her advice for creating new friendships and celebrating our bonds together. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In January 2020, we released an episode with our listeners' stories about when race became a flashpoint in their friendships. Today, we're holding a reunion of sorts – checking back in with those same listeners about the way race, identity, and racism have impacted their friendships since. Antoinette told us she would have handled an interaction with a white coworker much differently today. “It's kind of like with kids… when they're upset with each other, you want them to talk it out and then hug it out and then everything's okay,” she said. “And I think I'm making more peace with the fact that everything might not be okay."”  Since 2020, Matt has met other people who share his background as a Korean adoptee, and a new diverse group of work friends has also made him feel more comfortable. Chrishana and Sarah have grown even closer, despite changes in their personal lives that could have pulled them apart. And Devan, like Antoinette, told us he's more quick to disengage with people who don't share his values. Check out Matt's photo series of other Korean adoptees, Where are you really from?. And Chrishana and Sarah talked about reading Big Friendship, Aminatou Sow and Ann Friedman's book – we recorded an episode with them in the summer of 2020. Plus, the Pandemic Toolkit we mentioned, full of activities and coping mechanisms for stress and isolation, still lives here.