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Former New York Times reporter John Markoff has been writing about Silicon Valley for almost a half century. In December 1993 the Pulitzer Prize winning journalist wrote one of the earliest articles about the World Wide Web, referring to it as a "map to the buried treasures of the Information Age." So where are we now in the history of tech, I asked Markoff. Is the AI boom just one more Silicon Valley cycle of irrational exuberance? And how do contemporary tech titans like Sam Altman and Elon Musk compare with Steve Jobs, who Markoff covered for many years.John Markoff is a Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist. He has reported on Silicon Valley for more than four decades and wrote for The New York Times' science and technology beat for 28 years, where he was widely regarded as the paper's star technology reporter. He is the author of five books about the technology industry including his upcoming book Whole Earth: The Many Lives of Stewart Brand (on sale in March 2022). For decades Markoff has chronicled how technology has shaped our society. In Whole Earth, he delivers the definitive biography of one the most influential visionaries to inspire the technological and cultural revolutions of the last six decades. While Stewart Brand is largely known as the creator of The Whole Earth Catalog that became a counterculture bible for a generation of young Americans during the 1960s, his life's work is much larger. Brand became a key influence in the ‘70s environmental movement and the computing world of the ‘80s. Steve Jobs adopted Brand's famous mantra “Stay Hungry, Stay Foolish” as his code to live by, and to this day Brand epitomizes what Markoff calls “that California state of mind.” Brand has always had “an eerie knack for showing up first at the onset of some social movement or technological inflection point,” Markoff writes, “and then moving on just when everyone else catches up.” Brand's uncanny ahead-of-the-curve-ness is what makes John Markoff his ideal biographer. Markoff's reporting has always been at the cutting edge of tech revolutions—he wrote the first account of the World Wide Web in 1993 and broke the story of Google's self-driving car in 2010. Stewart Brand gave Markoff carte blanche access in interviews for the book, so Markoff gets a clearer story than has ever been set down before, ranging across Brand's time with the Merry Pranksters to his fostering of the marriage of environmental consciousness with hacker capitalism and the rise of a new planetary culture. Markoff's other books are: The High Cost of High Tech (with Lennie Siegel); Cyberpunk: Outlaws and Hackers on the Computer Frontier (with Katie Hafner); Takedown: The Pursuit and Capture of America's Most Wanted Computer Outlaw (with Tsutomu Shimomura); What the Dormouse Said: How the Sixties Counterculture Shaped the Personal Computer Industry; and Machines of Loving Grace: The Quest for Common Ground Between Humans and Robots. He is a Fellow at Stanford University's Center for Advanced Study in the Behavioral Sciences. He has been a lecturer at the University of California at Berkeley School of Journalism, and an adjunct faculty member at the Stanford Graduate Program on Journalism. In 2013, Markoff was part of a Pulitzer Prize-winning team for Explanatory Reporting “for its penetrating look into business practices by Apple and other technology companies that illustrates the darker side of a changing global economy for workers and consumers.” He continues to work as a freelance journalist for The Times and other organizations. Markoff graduated from Whitman College with a B.A. in sociology, and an M.A. in sociology from the University of Oregon.Named as one of the "100 most connected men" by GQ magazine, Andrew Keen is amongst the world's best known broadcasters and commentators. In addition to presenting KEEN ON, he is the host of the long-running How To Fix Democracy show. He is also the author of four prescient books about digital technology: CULT OF THE AMATEUR, DIGITAL VERTIGO, THE INTERNET IS NOT THE ANSWER and HOW TO FIX THE FUTURE. Andrew lives in San Francisco, is married to Cassandra Knight, Google's VP of Litigation & Discovery, and has two grown children.Keen On is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit keenon.substack.com/subscribe

John Markoff is a journalist best known for his work covering technology at The New York Times for 28 years until his retirement in 2016 and a book and series of articles about the 1990s pursuit and capture of hacker Kevin Mitnick. John is the author of "What the Dormouse Said: How the Sixties Counterculture Shaped the Personal Computer Industry" about the culture and consciousness behind the first PCs—the culture being counter– and the consciousness expanded, sometimes chemically. It's a brilliant evocation of Stanford, California, in the 1960s and '70s, where a group of visionaries set out to turn computers into a means for freeing minds and information. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/out-of-the-blank/support

是谁在改变我们的世界？国家机构，大人物，还是一个又一个从主流文化的边缘冒出来的小社群？ 六十年代的美国硅谷，一群一心想要逃避世俗嬉皮士找到了计算机这个「比迷幻药更能带来极致愉悦的东西」，他们结成社群，创造出第一台个人电脑，为计算机确定了开放、共享的框架，也由此为此后的世界提供了不竭的思考养料。与此同时，另一群人正在优胜美地的 Camp 4 营地里思考着什么样的攀岩工具能够减少对自然环境的破坏，而前不久宣布将公司 Patagonia 捐赠给地球的 Yvon Chouinard 便是其中一员。 令人好奇的是：从计算机、人工智能到全新的攀岩方式，为什么伟大的创新总是出现在一小群人的「随机碰撞」当中？社群的结成对于我们而言有何意义？一个能够承载创意的「容器」又会具有哪些特质？回到现实，一个能够迸发创意的社群似乎总是与商业化相悖，创新者又怎样弥合理想与现实之间的差距？ 本期人物 徐涛，「声动活泼」联合创始人、「声东击西」主播 傅丰元Bob，灵感买家俱乐部发起人 主要话题 [01:57] 「Stay hungry, Stay foolish」其实最早来源于一本反主流文化杂志 [15:46] 60 年代的硅谷反主流文化为个人计算机的发展奠定了最初架构 [23:14] 一个脏乱差的攀岩营地为什么能成为变革与创意诞生的容器？ [41:24] 火人节：沙漠上的临时城市和个人主义精神的延续 [41:29] 回溯 Hacker 与人工智能的历史，创新往往根植于小社群内的启发与碰撞 [57:41] 一个社群运营者的悲观论调：创新者永远不是商业化的最终受益者 加入我们 声动活泼正在招聘「节目监制」，查看详细讯息请 点击链接 (https://sourl.cn/Q352mP) 。如果你正准备在内容领域发挥专长、贡献能量，请联系我们。 往期节目 - #241 登山、冒险和风险管理大师 (https://etw.fm/2035) - #184 把乔布斯纹在腿上 (https://etw.fm/184) - #64 你不了解的那段硅谷源头，藏在旧金山这家地标书店中 (https://etw.fm/citylights) 延伸阅读 - 约翰·马科夫 (John Markoff)：《睡鼠说》（What the Dormouse Said: How the Sixties Counter culture Shaped the Personal Computer Industry） - 弗雷德·特纳（Fred Turner）：《数字乌托邦》（From Counterculture to Cyberculture） - 斯图尔特·布兰德（Stewart Brand）：《全球概览》（The WHOLE EARTH CATALOG） - 乔布斯2005年在斯坦福大学的毕业演讲:(https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1qK4y1K7RM/?spmidfrom=333.337.search-card.all.click&vd_source=5f082c084cfb30ed9872b7c7f17dcbb2) - 家酿计算机俱乐部（Homebrew Computer Club）：一个早期的计算机业余爱好者组成的俱乐部（从1975年3月5日到1986年12月），成员包括苹果公司的创办人史蒂夫·沃兹尼亚克（Steve Wozniak）和史蒂夫·乔布斯（Steve Jobs）。 - 弗雷德·摩尔（Fred Moore，1941-1997 年），美国政治活动家，他是个人电脑早期历史的核心人物，也是家酿计算机俱乐部的创始人之一。 - John Markoff：A Pioneer, Unheralded, In Technology And Activism (https://www.nytimes.com/2000/03/26/business/a-pioneer-unheralded-in-technology-and-activism.html) - 《互联网之子》 The Internet's Own Boy: The Story of Aaron Swartz (2014) - Kevin Kelly:Scenius, or Communal Genius (https://kk.org/thetechnium/scenius-or-comm/) - Camp 4 是位于美国优胜美地（Yosemite）国家公园的一个帐篷专用露营地。第二次世界大战后，它成为著名的“现代攀岩运动的发源地”。它位于优胜美地山谷北侧海拔 4000 英尺（1200 米）处，靠近优胜美地瀑布附近的花岗岩悬崖底部。 - 罗伊·罗宾斯（Royal Robbins），1935 年 2 月 3 日 -2017 年 3 月 14 日，美国攀岩运动的先驱之一，无螺栓、无岩钉干净攀岩的早期支持者，他与伊冯·乔伊纳德（Yvon Chouinard）一起，通过鼓励使用和保护岩石的自然特征，在改变 1960 年代末和 70 年代初的攀岩文化方面发挥了重要作用。他后来成为著名的皮划艇运动员。 - 沃伦·哈丁（Warren Harding），1924 年 6 月 18 日 - 2002 年 2 月 27 日，是 1950 年代至 70 年代最有成就和影响力的美国攀岩者之一。 - 伊冯·乔伊纳德（Yvon Chouinard，1938 年 11 月 9 日－），是美国攀岩者、环保主义者、慈善家和户外产业商人。知名户外品牌 Patagonia 创始人，该公司以环保著称。2022 年，公司创始人乔伊纳德宣布捐赠整个公司，将公司所有利润用于环保事业，公司价值 30 亿美元。 - 徒手攀岩（Free Solo）：2018年美国纪录片，由伊丽莎白·柴·瓦沙瑞莉和金国威导演。影片记录了攀岩运动家亚历克斯·霍诺尔德2017年6月3日徒手攀爬酋长岩的惊险过程。影片于2018年9月28日在美国公映，票房1900万美元，口碑不俗。影片获得奥斯卡最佳纪录片等多个奖项。 - 寒山（？－？），巨鹿郡人（今邢台人），唐朝诗僧，约活跃于唐德宗至唐昭宗年间。寒山、拾得、丰干一起隐居于天台山国清寺，被誉为“国清三隐”。 - 火人节：（Burning Man，又名火人节）是一年一度在美国内华达州的黑石沙漠（Black Rock Desert）举办的活动，九天的活动开始于美国劳动节前一个星期六，结束于美国劳工节（九月第一个星期一）当天。火人节这名字始于周六晚上焚烧巨大人形木像的仪式。这个活动被许多参与者描述为是对社区意识、艺术、激进的自我表达，以及彻底自力更生的实验。 - Steven Levy：《黑客：计算机革命的英雄》Hackers: Heroes of the Computer Revolution - 弗里德里希·奥古斯特·冯·哈耶克，CH（德语：Friedrich August von Hayek，1899年5月8日－1992年3月23日）是出生于奥匈帝国的英国知名经济学家、政治哲学家，1974年诺贝尔经济学奖得主。哈耶克也是20世纪最重要的政治思想家之一，他对于法学、系统思维、思想史、认知科学领域也有相当重要的贡献。他坚持古典自由主义、个人主义、自由市场资本主义，其著作《通往奴役之路》累计销售量超过200万册（截止2010年）。 - 黑山学院（Black Mountain College），是一所已结业的美国学校。1933 年创立于美国北卡罗来纳州阿什维尔附近，是美国一所以引领革新著名的学校。但在 1957 年结束校务。尽管只有约 23 个年头和约近 1200 名的学生，黑山大学过去在艺术的教育与实践上是最具虚构实验性制度的，在 60 年代的美国造就了数位非凡的前卫派先锋艺术家。该校以拥有在视觉，文学与表演艺术上非凡的教程而自豪，而该校所留下的更持续地影响着教育的哲学或实践。 出门录音挑战 春天到啦，是时候相约出门玩耍了！换一种感官，用声音记录你的春日信号。具体怎么玩，请点击这期胡同来信 (https://sourl.cn/6Ff4FP)。成为会员，即可报名参与。 加入声动胡同会员计划 成为声动活泼会员，支持我们独立而无畏地持续创作，并让更多人听到这些声音。 加入方式 支付 ¥365/年 (https://sourl.cn/rYXHK9) 成为声动胡同常住民。加入后，你将会在「声动胡同」里体验到专属内容、参与社群活动，和听友们一起「声动活泼」。 在此之前，也欢迎你成为声动胡同闲逛者 (https://sourl.cn/rYXHK9) ，免费体验会员内容、感受社群氛围。 了解更多会员计划详情，我们在声动胡同等你。 (https://sourl.cn/seG52h) 使用音乐 - Book Bag-E's Jammy Jams 幕后制作 监制：信宇、静晗 后期：赛德、可特 运营：瑞涵、Babs 设计：饭团 关于节目 Bigger Than Us，渴望多元视角，用发问来探索世界。 商务合作 声动活泼商务合作咨询 (https://sourl.cn/6vdmQT) 关于声动活泼 「用声音碰撞世界」，声动活泼致力于为人们提供源源不断的思考养料。 我们还有这些播客：声动早咖啡 (https://sheng-espresso.fireside.fm/)、What's Next｜科技早知道 (https://guiguzaozhidao.fireside.fm/episodes)、反潮流俱乐部 (https://fanchaoliuclub.fireside.fm/)、泡腾 VC (https://popvc.fireside.fm/)、商业WHY酱 (https://msbussinesswhy.fireside.fm/)、跳进兔子洞 (https://therabbithole.fireside.fm/) 欢迎在即刻 (https://okjk.co/Qd43ia)、微博等社交媒体上与我们互动，搜索 声动活泼 即可找到我们 期待你给我们写邮件，邮箱地址是：ting@sheng.fm 如果你喜欢我们的节目，欢迎 打赏 (https://etw.fm/donation) 支持或把节目推荐给一两位朋友 Special Guest: 傅丰元Bob.

Attend the Long Now Talks in-person or via our livestream Watch & share these talks on YouTube and Long Now Join us for an illuminating evening with journalist John Markoff in conversation with Long Now's Co-founder Stewart Brand and Executive Director Alexander Rose around Markoff's new biography of Brand. Journalist John Markoff writes about technology, society and the key figures who shaped Silicon Valley and the personal computer revolution. Along the way, his stories and reporting intersected with Stewart Brand's paths numerous times and in surprising ways. And now Markoff has distilled Brand's formative rise from the Merry Pranksters and the Whole Earth Catalog, to the marriage of environmental consciousness and hacker capitalism into his newest book, Whole Earth: The Many Lives of Stewart Brand. The book will be available to purchase at the in-person talk, and sales will benefit BookShop West Portal. John Markoff writes for the New York Times, has covered Silicon Valley since 01977, wrote the first account of the World Wide Web in 01993, and broke the story of Google's self driving car in 02010. He is the author of What the Dormouse Said: How the Sixties Counterculture Shaped the Personal Computer Industry and Machines of Loving Grace: The Quest for Common Ground Between Humans and Robots, amongst others. His new biography of Stewart Brand is Whole Earth: The Many Lives of Stewart Brand, which will be released on March 22, 02022.

Oxide and Friends Twitter Space: September 27th, 2021The Books in the BoxWe've been holding a Twitter Space weekly on Mondays at 5p for about an hour. Even though it's not (yet?) a feature of Twitter Spaces, we have been recording them all; here is the recording for our Twitter Space for September 27th, 2021.In addition to Bryan Cantrill and Adam Leventhal, speakers on September 27th included Tom Lyon, Dan Cross, Antranig Vartanian Simeon Miteff Matt Campbell, Jeremy Tanner, Joshua Clulow, Ian, Tim Burnham, and Nathaniel Reindl. (Did we miss your name and/or get it wrong? Drop a PR!)Some of the topics we hit on, in the order that we hit them: Not recommended :-(  Dave Hitz and Pat Walsh (2008) How to Castrate a Bull book Peter Thiel (2014) Zero to One book [@2:45](https://youtu.be/zrZAHO89XGk?t=165) David Jacques Gerber (2015) The Inventor's Dilemma: The Remarkable Life of H. Joseph Gerber book [@7:21](https://youtu.be/zrZAHO89XGk?t=441) Sidney Dekker (2011) Drift into Failure: From Hunting Broken Components to Understanding Complex Systems book [@13:08](https://youtu.be/zrZAHO89XGk?t=788) Robert Buderi (1996) The Invention that Changed the World: The Story of Radar from War to Peace book MIT Rad Lab Series info Nuclear Magnetic Resonance wiki Richard Rhodes (1995) Dark Sun: The Making of the Hydrogen Bomb book Michael Riordan and Lillian Hoddeson (1997) Crystal Fire: The Birth of the Information Age book Craig Canine (1995) Dream Reaper: The Story of an Old-Fashioned Inventor in the High-Tech, High-Stakes World of Modern Agriculture book David Fisher and Marshall Fisher (1996) Tube: The Invention of Television book Michael Hiltzik (2015) Big Science: Ernest Lawrence and the Invention that Launched the Military-Industrial Complex book [@18:05](https://youtu.be/zrZAHO89XGk?t=1085) Ben Rich and Leo Janos (1994) Skunk Works: A Personal Memoir of My Years at Lockheed book Network Software Environment Lockheed SR-71 on display at the Sea, Air and Space Museum in NYC. [@26:52](https://youtu.be/zrZAHO89XGk?t=1612) Brian Dear (2017) The Friendly Orange Glow: The Untold Story of the Rise of Cyberculture book [@30:15](https://youtu.be/zrZAHO89XGk?t=1815) Randall Stross (1993) Steve Jobs and the NeXT Big Thing book [@32:21](https://youtu.be/zrZAHO89XGk?t=1941) Christophe Lécuyer and David C. Brock (2010) Makers of the Microchip: A Documentary History of Fairchild Semiconductor book [@33:06](https://youtu.be/zrZAHO89XGk?t=1986) Lamont Wood (2012) Datapoint: The Lost Story of the Texans Who Invented the Personal Computer Revolution book Charles Kenney (1992) Riding the Runaway Horse: The Rise and Decline of Wang Laboratories bookTom's tweet [@34:06](https://youtu.be/zrZAHO89XGk?t=2046) Bryan's Lost Box of Books! Edgar H. Schein et al (2003) DEC is Dead, Long Live DEC: The Lasting Legacy of Digital Equipment Corporation book [@36:56](https://youtu.be/zrZAHO89XGk?t=2216) Alan Payne (2021) Built to Fail: The Inside Story of Blockbuster's Inevitable Bust bookVideotape format war wiki Hackers (1995) movie. Watch the trailer ~2mins Steven Levy (1984) Hackers: Heroes of the Computer Revolution book [@42:32](https://youtu.be/zrZAHO89XGk?t=2552) Paul Halmos (1985) I Want to be a Mathematician: An Automathography book Paul Hoffman (1998) The Man Who Loved Only Numbers about Paul Erdős book 1981 text adventure game for the Apple II by Sierra On-Line, “Softporn Adventure” (wiki) [@49:16](https://youtu.be/zrZAHO89XGk?t=2956) Douglas Engelbart The Mother of All Demos wikiJohn Markoff (2005) What the Dormouse Said: How the Sixties Counterculture Shaped the Personal Computer Industry book Katie Hafner and Matthew Lyon (1998) Where Wizards Stay Up Late book 1972 Computer Networks: The Heralds of Resource Sharing documentary ~26mins (wiki) included big names like Corbató, Licklider and Bob Kahn. Gordon Moore (1965) Cramming more components onto integrated circuits paper and Moore's Law wiki [@52:37](https://youtu.be/zrZAHO89XGk?t=3157) Physicists, mathematicians, number theory, proofs  Wiles's proof of Fermat's Last Theorem 1993 wiki Simon Singh (1997) Fermat's Last Theorem book Ronald Calinger (2015) Leonhard Euler: Mathematical Genius in the Enlightenment purports to be the first full-scale “comprehensive and authoritative” biography [@1:00:12](https://youtu.be/zrZAHO89XGk?t=3612) Robert X. Cringely (1992) Accidental Empires: How the Boys of Silicon Valley Make Their Millions, Battle Foreign Competition, and Still Can't Get a Date book Jerry Kaplan (1996) Startup: A Silicon Valley Adventure book Brian Kernighan (2019) UNIX: A History and a Memoir book [@1:03:03](https://youtu.be/zrZAHO89XGk?t=3783) Douglas Coupland (1995) Microserfs book Douglas Coupland (1991) Generation X: Tales for an Accelerated Culture book Fry's Electronics wiki [@1:06:49](https://youtu.be/zrZAHO89XGk?t=4009) Michael A. Hiltzik (1999) Dealers of Lightning: Xerox PARC and the Dawn of the Computer Age book Albert Cory (pen name for Bob Purvy) (2021) Inventing the Future bookXerox Star wiki [@1:11:20](https://youtu.be/zrZAHO89XGk?t=4280) Corporate espionage, VMWare and Parallels, Cadence v. Avanti wiki, Cisco and Huawei (article) If we got something wrong or missed something, please file a PR! Our next Twitter space will likely be on Monday at 5p Pacific Time; stay tuned to our Twitter feeds for details. We'd love to have you join us, as we always love to hear from new speakers!

In our first episode we introduce ourselves, the podcast, and help you understand this so-called ‘Psychedelic Renaissance'. We synthesized over 7000 years of history to explain how cave paintings of mushroom-wielding shaman have led to FDA approved research, millions in VC funding, and an emerging early-stage industry. If you want to dive deeper into some of the leading academic research we referenced you should start with the work at Johns Hopkins Center for Psychedelic & Consciousness Research [https://hopkinspsychedelic.org/publications] and Imperial College's Center for Psychedelic Research [https://www.imperial.ac.uk/psychedelic-research-centre/research/]. Additional resources discussed in the episode include: MAPS: Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies [https://maps.org/about/mission] What the Dormouse Said: How the Sixties Counterculture Shaped the Personal Computer Industry by John Markoff [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/What_the_Dormouse_Said] Other great timelines that helped inform our research included those by Psychedelic Times [https://psychedelictimes.com/psychedelic-timeline/] and Psychedelic Science Review [https://psychedelicreview.com/timelines/cultural-events/] We'd love to read your feedback and answer any additional questions that you may have; email us at hello@psychedelicmemos.com and follow-us on Twitter (@arminkhaya & @colinrball) to continue the discussion. Copyright 2020. All Rights Reserved.

Howard Rheingold calls himself an Independent Instigator & Observer, and we are so glad he is. Since the 60s, when the first concepts of personal computing and connecting humankind through networks were merely ideas on an LSD trip, he’s been watching how technology and human minds interrelate. Howard brings us up to the macro level, discussing how modes of communication shape the way societies behave, or how expressing hope can save an entire generation. Then he takes us to the micro level, comparing Facebook to other platforms that better encourage self-expression, telling us about the ‘five essential literacies’ for surviving in the modern world, and giving a huge list of recommended reading—like any good professor would. LINKS MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE (FOR FULL LIST OF LINKS, SEE OUR FULL WEBPAGE): Michael Pollan’s book: How to Change Your Mind Higher Creativity: Liberating the Unconscious for Breakthrough Insights by Howard Rheingold and Willis Harman The WELL Howard’s TED Talk: “The New Power of Collaboration” Alan Kay’s article in Scientific American “Microelectronics in the Personal Computer" Future Shock by Alvin Toffler Whole Earth Catalog (on Amazon and Wikipedia) and the Millennium Whole Earth Catalog Our Minds Have Been Hijacked by Our Phones. Tristan Harris Wants to Rescue Them from Wired.com Connected Learning Alliance What the Dormouse Said: How the Sixties Counterculture Shaped the Personal Computer Industry by John Markoff Doug Engelbart’s “Mother of All Demos” video— the world debut of personal and interactive computing in 1968! Howard’s Patreon profile   MUSICAL INSPIRATION FOR THIS EPISODE ON SPOTIFY: "People Got to Be Free" by The Rascals    ABOUT THIS PODCAST Stayin' Alive in Tech is an oral history of Silicon Valley and technology. Melinda Byerley, the host, is a 20-year veteran of Silicon Valley and the founder of Timeshare CMO, a digital marketing intelligence firm, based in San Francisco. We really appreciate your reviews, shares on social media, and your recommendations for future guests. And check out our Spotify playlist for all the songs we refer to on our show. 

I don’t usually begin interviews with the question “who the hell are you?” But, then again, not every guest is John Higgs. I fell into Higgs’s work by accident. An offhand recommendation of his book on the KLF, a British band that burnt a million pounds but couldn’t explain why they did it. What’s unusual is that I’ve not quite been able to climb back out of it. Higgs’s work is reality-warping. Once you put on his lenses, it’s hard to take them back off. At the center of Higgs’s strange, brilliant books — his heterodox history of the 20th century, his biography of Timothy Leary, his tour of “metamodernism” — is a single, urgent question: How do we understand the world around us even as advances in physics, psychology, art, pharmacology, and philosophy shatter our frames of reference? This conversation takes some wild turns, but trying to describe it would do it a disservice. Just trust me on this one. It’s good to mess with your reality every once in awhile. References: John Higgs’s conversation with Alan Moore What the Dormouse Said: How the Sixties Counterculture Shaped the Personal Computer Industry by John Markoff Book Recommendations: The Patterning Instinct by Jeremy Lent Cosmic Trigger I by Robert Anton Wilson From Hell by Alan Moore Want to contact the show? Reach out at ezrakleinshow@vox.com News comes at you fast. Join us at the end of your day to understand it. Subscribe to Today, Explained Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

John Markoff is a Pulitzer Prize winning technology journalist, who retired from his position at the New York Times in 2017. He grew up in the Bay Area of California, and was one of the first journalists to write about the World Wide Web. This interview includes a discussion about Silicon Valley as an idea and workplace; counter cultures and technology; distributed computing and the evolution of the internet / World Wide Web. There is also some discussion about self-driving vehicles toward the end of the interview. Work on a Stewart Brand biography was also touched upon. Books written by Markoff include What the Dormouse Said: How the 60s Counterculture Shaped the Personal Computer Industry and Machines of Loving Grace: The Quest for Common Ground Between Humans and Robots. Co-authored and collaborative works include The High Cost of High Tech; Cyberpunk: Outlaws and Hackers on the Computer Frontier and Takedown: The Pursuit and Capture of America's Most Wanted Computer Outlaw. Computer History Museum https://www.computerhistory.org/events/bio/John,Markoff Stanford University https://casbs.stanford.edu/people/john-markoff BUSINESS TECHNOLOGY; A Free and Simple Computer Link https://www.nytimes.com/1993/12/08/business/business-technology-a-free-and-simple-computer-link.html What the Dormouse Said: How the 60s Counterculture Shaped the Personal Computer Industry https://www.amazon.com/What-Dormouse-Said-Counterculture-Personal/dp/0143036769 Machines of Loving Grace: The Quest for Common Ground Between Humans and Robots https://www.amazon.com/Machines-Loving-Grace-Common-Between/dp/0062266691 The “Whole Earth Catalog" was a 1960s publishing sensation. It happened because its creator was given a chance to fail. https://altaonline.com/access-to-success/ Cyberpunk http://www.brucebethke.com/ https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/bn5k5m/william-gibson-interview-399 http://project.cyberpunk.ru/idb/nealstephenson.html https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/06/neal-stephenson-metaverse-snow-crash-silicon-valley-virtual-reality Elon Musk's War On LIDAR: Who Is Right And Why Do They Think That? https://www.forbes.com/sites/bradtempleton/2019/05/06/elon-musks-war-on-lidar-who-is-right-and-why-do-they-think-that/#6630eb492a3b Do You Trust This Computer? https://youtu.be/3CJE6XheubM The future of radio may well be digital, but it won't survive on DAB https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/05/22/digital_future_is_not_dab/

Many Buddhist figures have things to say about wise engagement with technology, but many of these same figures are not technologists themselves, and so have a limited view, or understanding, of the full range of what technology is, and perhaps of what it means. This week, to explore these very questions, we speak again with leading technologist Kevin Kelly. He shares his unique view on how technology should be selectively minimized on the individual level, while simultaneously maximizing the pool of technologies in the world at large. We also explore the parallel philosophies of Buddhism—especially with regards to its emphases on interdependence and impermanence—with the cybernetic process philosophy that Kelly is familar with. This techno-geek-philosophy shares many overlapping views on the nature of reality, but is strikingly different in many ways. This is part 2 of a two-part series. Listen to part 1, The Technium. Episode Links: www.KK.org What Technology Wants ( http://amzn.to/9l5NqS ) “When the Mind Wanders, Happiness Also Strays” ( http://nyti.ms/eRisjo ) Cool Tools ( http://www.kk.org/cooltools/ ) What the Dormouse Said: How the Sixties Counterculture Shaped the Personal Computer Industry ( http://amzn.to/hNmiCo )

Recorded on January 19th, 2015 - Francis Crick, Nobel Prize-winning father of modern genetics, deduced the double-helix structure of DNA: may have been influenced by LSD. - Kary Mullis, inventor of PCR, a scientific breakthrough that accelerated the sequencing of the human genome: "I found it to be a mind-opening experience. It was certainly much more important than any courses I ever took. [...] What if I had not taken LSD ever; would I have still invented PCR? I don't know. I doubt it. I seriously doubt it." - Steve Jobs: “Taking LSD was a profound experience, one of the most important things in my life. LSD shows you that there’s another side to the coin, and you can’t remember it when it wears off, but you know it. It reinforced my sense of what was important—creating great things instead of making money, putting things back into the stream of history and of human consciousness as much as I could.” “When you grow up you tend to get told that the world is the way it is and you're life is just to live your life inside the world. Try not to bash into the walls too much. Try to have a nice family life, have fun, save a little money. That's a very limited life. Life can be much broader once you discover one simple fact: Everything around you that you call life was made up by people that were no smarter than you. And you can change it, you can influence it… Once you learn that, you'll never be the same again.” - Steve Jobs Also: "Here's to the Crazy Ones" Douglas Englebart, early computer scientist, presenter of the Mother of All Demos, had "two LSD experiences." - Kevin Herbert, early Cisco engineer: "When I'm on LSD and hearing something that's pure rhythm, it takes me to another world and into anther brain state where I've stopped thinking and started knowing. It must be changing something about the internal communication in my brain." References: Interview with Patrick Lundborg: 60’s psych & garage guru, psychedelic culture scholar and author of brilliant „Psychedelia” and „Acid Archives” books, discussed in Entheogen #003 What the Dormouse Said: How the Sixties Counterculture Shaped the Personal Computer by John Markoff "Shaking one's snow globe" with LSD: Entheogen 002: Psychedelic Research Renaissance, Part 2

Guest speaker: Myron Stolaroff PROGRAM NOTES: This podcast features a few sound bites from several of the previous podcasts featuring Myron Stolaroff, who departed this life on January 6, 2013. Not only was Myron one of the world's leading psychedelic researchers, earlier in life he was instrumental in helping the Ampex Corporation develop the audio and video tape recorders. Below are a few links, videos, and books that more fully illustrate the life of this Renaissance Man. Download MP3 PCs – Right click, select option Macs – Ctrl-Click, select option The Myron Stolaroff Archive on the Psychedelic Salon Donate to The Stolaroff Collection at Erowid Myron Stolaroff memorial video Myron Stolaroff and Gary Fisher in Dialogue The Gary Fisher Archive on the Psychedelic Salon A Visit with the Stolaroffs The Myron Stolaroff Vault at Erowid.org The Secret Chief: Conversations With a Pioneer of the Underground Psychedelic Therapy Movement By Myron J. Stolaroff The Secret Chief Revealed By Myron J. Stolaroff Thanatos to Eros: 35 Years of Psychedelic Exploration Ethnomedicine and the Study of Consciousness By Myron J. Stolaroff What the Dormouse Said: How the Sixties Counterculture Shaped the Personal Computer Industry By John Markoff Myron Stolaroff on Wikipedia