It's a Very Exciting Time

The UAP Disclosure Fund held an informational briefing about UFOs for Congress. In addition to hearing from Chris Mellon, Avi Loeb, and Tim Gallaudet, we got to hear from Dr. Eric Davis, the alleged author of the Wilson/Davis notes. He spoke about his background in astrophysics and how he started investigating UFOs for Robert Bigelow, eventually becoming one of David Grusch's primary witnesses. He answered questions about exotic material science, UFO flight mechanics, and even talked about the alien races that are alleged to be flying these craft!You can find show notes and references at our website, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠VeryExcitingTime.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, or support us at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠patreon.com/VeryExcitingTime⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

Matthew Brown has gone public as the whistleblower who wrote the Immaculate Constellation report. Join us as we review his three-hour interview with Jeremy Corbell and George Knapp, covering how he discovered the program on the Pentagon's secret internet, his attempts to report it to his chain of command, and how he came to write a report for Congress and become a public whistleblower. Plus, his startling theories about who is behind all the secrecy and what it means for the human race.You can find show notes and references at our website, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠VeryExcitingTime.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, or support us at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠patreon.com/VeryExcitingTime⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

While we wait for the third part of the interview with the Immaculate Constellation whistleblower to drop, let's talk about a surprisingly eventful few weeks in the UFO world, including a UFO roundtable at Congress, multiple new whistleblowers, and Lue Elizondo sharing a UFO photo that was quickly debunked, upsetting a lot of people in the community, and leading to fears of disinformation.You can find show notes and references at our website, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠VeryExcitingTime.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, or support us at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠patreon.com/VeryExcitingTime⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

Harald Malmgren was an advisor to multiple US presidents, including JFK, and involved in numerous historic incidents, including in the war room during the Cuban missile crisis. Days before he died, he gave a final interview to Jesse Michels, exploring his interactions with the UAP topic throughout his life. He makes several interesting claims, including that he saw footage of a UFO being brought down during a nuclear test, held UAP debris in Los Alamos, and was briefed on UAP crash recoveries by CIA deputy director Richard Bissell.You can find show notes and references at our website, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠VeryExcitingTime.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, or support us at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠patreon.com/VeryExcitingTime⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

UAP whistleblower Jake Barber's group, Skywatcher, has had a busy few weeks. They announced they intend to prove mechanical and psionic UAP summoning by the end of the year. To support that goal, they released a scientific discovery framework, a structured way to handle UAP research, with six levels that each require more scrutiny before eventually graduating to public acceptance. Plus, they dropped the second episode of their documentary series, which discussed the mechanical “dog whistle” they've developed, with a 100% success rate summoning UFOs, and included a classification guide to make sense of the different types of UAP they've seen in their experiments.You can find show notes and references at our website, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠VeryExcitingTime.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, or support us at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠patreon.com/VeryExcitingTime⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

Rep. Eric Burlison has hired UAP whistleblower David Grusch to his personal staff. This will allow Grusch to advise Burlison (who is on the House Oversight Committee and is investigating UFOs for the Federal Secrets Task Force) on the topic of UFOs, and enable Congress to restore his clearance, so he can step into a SCIF to brief the Task Force, along with Lue Elizondo and Christopher Mellon!You can find show notes and references at our website, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠VeryExcitingTime.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, or support us at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠patreon.com/VeryExcitingTime⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

This week we're bringing you updates to a bunch of long-running stories. We've got the latest on the Congressional UAP Task Force, as well as updates on NASA's UAP efforts. Skywatcher is preparing their next video, Elon Musk is making some wild claims, and we're diving into the White House's unsatisfying official answer to the New Jersey mystery drone situation.You can find show notes and references at our website, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠VeryExcitingTime.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, or support us at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠patreon.com/VeryExcitingTime⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

Since the last Congressional UAP hearing, there has been growing demand for a UAP select committee, and pressure on President Trump's administration to push for UFO disclosure. This week, we learned that Rep. Luna will head the Task Force On the Declassification of Federal Secrets, which will investigate, among other topics, the JFK files and the UAP topic, resulting in at least two further UAP hearings, and could represent a growing willingness in Congress to pursue the topic more seriously.You can find show notes and references at our website, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠VeryExcitingTime.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, or support us at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠patreon.com/VeryExcitingTime⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

UFO crash retrieval program whistleblower Jake Barber made some shocking claims in his first interview with Ross Coulthart. Now, they've released the full-length 3-hour interview, as well as interviews with his supporting witnesses, another 3-hour interview with Jesse Michels, and Skywatcher's first video documenting their attempt to summon a UFO. Join us as we discuss the additional details revealed about Barber's story, including his cover work, retrieval operations, his encounter with Steven Greer and Michael Herrera, as well as a strange story about a summoned UFO landing before a nude hot springs.You can find show notes and references at our website,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠VeryExcitingTime.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, or support us at⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠patreon.com/VeryExcitingTime⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

This week Ross Coulthart introduced his new whistleblower, Jake Barber, an Air Force veteran who has come out as a whistleblower claiming to have worked in the secret UFO crash retrieval program. He shared stories of recovering exotic craft from a testing range in the desert, where he and his team were made ill by their exposure to the things they recovered. Barber says he recovered at least two non-human craft. One was egg-shaped, and there's video of the recovery. The other made a profound psychic connection with him. He also claims the military has “psionics teams” who request UFOs to land and be recovered. And finally, he says that while tasked to recover illegal evidence of UFO recoveries, he and his team were set up, and he's gone public to protect himself. It's a wild story, so buckle up! You can find show notes and references at our website, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠VeryExcitingTime.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, or support us at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠patreon.com/VeryExcitingTime⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

Mystery drone swarms in New Jersey and elsewhere are ongoing, triggering further FAA flight restrictions, snark from former AARO director Sean Kirkpatrick, and claims that FBI drone detection tech is inadequate. Perhaps most surprising, however, is that the Cybertruck bomber sent an email claiming to be read into a secret UAP program, and that the drones are Chinese technology, using “gravitic” propulsion! You can find show notes and references at our website, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠VeryExcitingTime.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, or support us at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠patreon.com/VeryExcitingTime⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

It's been more than a month of nightly drone swarms over New Jersey, and the sightings have now spread to four additional military bases, as well as civilian sightings coast-to-coast. The government attempted to explain the sightings away as hobby drones and misidentified stars, and made a bizarre claim that no sightings have occurred in restricted airspace. But with Air Force bases being shut down due to drone incursions, no one finds this explanation convincing, which raises the troubling question: Why is the government lying to us about the drones? You can find show notes and references at our website, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠VeryExcitingTime.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, or support us at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠patreon.com/VeryExcitingTime⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

Last year, mysterious drone swarms targeted Navy ships and Langley Air Force Base, nearly colliding with an F22 and causing a fighter squadron to be relocated. Despite intense investigation, their origin is still unknown. This year, the drones are back! This time they're targeting several RAF bases in the UK as well as the entire state of New Jersey. They've been in the air every night for over two weeks. These drones are unusually large and quiet, and they can hover in place for hours at a time. Countermeasures are ineffective, and no one's been able to track where they come from or go to. What is happening? You can find show notes and references at our website, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠VeryExcitingTime.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, or support us at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠patreon.com/VeryExcitingTime⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

AARO's new director, Dr. Jon Kosloski, got his first moments in the spotlight this week, dropping the newest annual UAP report, hosting a media roundtable, and appearing before the Senate. He confirmed UAP are real, some cases are “truly anomalous,” and discussed some cases they're investigating. He also shared a pretty unsatisfactory resolution for the 2017 GoFast video. You can find show notes and references at our website, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠VeryExcitingTime.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, or support us at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠patreon.com/VeryExcitingTime⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

In the latest Congressional UAP hearing, retired Navy Rear Admiral Tim Gallaudet, former AATIP director Lue Elizondo, and journalist Michael Shellenberger testified that secret UAP crash retrieval, reverse engineering, and surveillance programs are being illegally concealed from Congress. Lawmakers were warned not to ask certain questions, AARO engaged in a disinformation effort against a witness, and whistleblowers have been harassed, threatened, and publicly discredited, all in an effort to prevent any attempts at public disclosure.  You can find show notes and references at our website, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠VeryExcitingTime.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, or support us at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠patreon.com/VeryExcitingTime⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

Hot on the heels of the US election, we're looking ahead to consider whether the upcoming government changes will impact the push for UFO disclosure, or the November 13 UAP hearing in Congress. We also discuss persistent rumors that the James Webb Space Telescope has detected signs of life, and why it's probably nothing to get excited about. We'll be back with an episode soon after the hearing! Update: Congress announced the list of witnesses for the UAP hearing shortly after we recorded. (That's what we get for trying to record early!) Rear Admiral Tim Gallaudet and former head of AATIP Lue Elizondo will be joined by journalist Michael Shellenberger (who broke the Immaculate Constellation story), and Mike Gold, a former NASA official who spent 13 years working Bigelow Aerospace. You can find show notes and references at our website, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠VeryExcitingTime.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, or support us at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠patreon.com/VeryExcitingTime⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

This week we're covering a selection of UFO-related news. The National Archives extended the deadline for government agencies to turn over their UAP files. Journalists George Knapp and Jeremy Corbell have received credible death threats, and have created dead man's switches to trigger “catastrophic disclosure” if anything happens to them. The November UAP hearings in both the Senate and the House have been confirmed, and there are claims that the House hearing may center on new whistleblowers related to the Immaculate Constellation story. You can find show notes and references at our website, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠VeryExcitingTime.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, or support us at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠patreon.com/VeryExcitingTime⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

Journalist Michael Shellenberger broke the news of a new whistleblower who has provided a report to Congress on an illegally concealed Pentagon program called “Immaculate Constellation.” This is a parent program that is designed to “detect” and “quarantine” UFO data from the rest of the DoD. Could this lead to further disclosures during the upcoming Congressional UAP hearings? You can find show notes and references at our website, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠VeryExcitingTime.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, or support us at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠patreon.com/VeryExcitingTime⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

This week we're covering a grab bag of UFO news that happened while we were talking about Lue Elizondo's book. We've got presidential advisor Harald Malmgren announcing that he was briefed on the UAP reverse engineering program, stories of a massive and incredibly fast USO, a bit of information about the new Director of AARO, upcoming UAP hearings in both the House and the Senate, and the latest status of the UAP Disclosure Act. Buckle up, it's a very exciting time! You can find show notes and references at our website, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠VeryExcitingTime.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, or support us at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠patreon.com/VeryExcitingTime⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

In Lue Elizondo's book, he dedicates a chapter to a bizarre historical case that informed his UFO threat narrative: In 1977, in Colares, Brazil, UFOs attacked and terrorized thousands of people. The attacks were investigated, witnessed, and documented by the Brazilian Air Force. The resulting report, including photos of videos of UFOs, was covered up, until it leaked in the 90s, culminating with the death of a whistleblower. You can find show notes and references at our website, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠VeryExcitingTime.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, or support us at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠patreon.com/VeryExcitingTime⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

Ever since Lue Elizondo emerged as a whistleblower in the New York Times in 2017, the Pentagon has constantly changed their story about him. First they acknowledged he ran the UFO program, then they said it wasn't a UFO program and Lue wasn't involved. Lue claims it's retaliation for going public, and filed an Inspector General complaint. Let's get to the bottom of what Lue did in AAWSAP/AATIP, how he became the director of a reduced version of AATIP, and how he came to leave the Pentagon in protest. You can find show notes and references at our website, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠VeryExcitingTime.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, or support us at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠patreon.com/VeryExcitingTime⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

Lue Elizondo's new book: Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs is finally out, and it's jam-packed with fascinating information. Broadly speaking, Lue confirms David Grusch's allegations about an illegally hidden UAP crash retrieval and reverse engineering program, but he also gets into the back story about how AATIP split from AAWSAP under his direction, how he left the Pentagon for TTSA, and how he and Chris Mellon have worked with Congress to advance disclosure. He also discusses his experience training as a remote viewer for Project Stargate, encountering orbs in his own home, how UFOs work, and even alien implants! You can find show notes and references at our website, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠VeryExcitingTime.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, or support us at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠patreon.com/VeryExcitingTime⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

Matthew Pines, the Director of Intelligence at SentinelOne, spoke recently about the UAP Disclosure Act being resubmitted for the NDAA, and the “major things” that are coming this summer to support it, including Lue Elizondo's book, two documentaries with new people backing David Grusch's claims, and “someone everyone would recognize.” You can find show notes and references at our website, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠VeryExcitingTime.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, or support us at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠patreon.com/VeryExcitingTime⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

Back in 1995 the CIA declassified a 20-year long secret spy program that used psychics! What was this program? Why was it declassified? Did it work? Why are we talking about this on a UFO podcast? We'll dive into the answers to all those questions in this exciting episode! You can find show notes and references at our website, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠VeryExcitingTime.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, or support us at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠patreon.com/VeryExcitingTime⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

Today we're talking about the latest high-profile figure to call for public disclosure of contact with a non-human intelligence, retired US Navy Rear Admiral Tim Gallaudet. After serving as administrator of NOAA, he's now on the boards of the SOL Foundation and Americans for Safe Aerospace, and is publicly advocating for further investigation into USO and increased undersea exploration. You can find show notes and references at our website, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠VeryExcitingTime.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, or support us at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠patreon.com/VeryExcitingTime⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

This week we're checking in with Congress. Understandably, it seems the UAP issue is taking a back seat in the run up to the election, but we've still got a bit of movement on two fronts. First, there are several UAP amendments being considered for the 2025 NDAA, including improved whistleblower protections and possibly reintroducing the full UAP disclosure act. We'll also look into when and if we might get an additional public UAP hearing from the Senate or perhaps the House Oversight Committee. You can find show notes and references at our website, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠VeryExcitingTime.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, or support us at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠patreon.com/VeryExcitingTime⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

Did you know that two different presidents have reported UFO sightings? Or that one president campaigned with a promise to open the UFO files? Find out which president is rumored to have attended a meeting with extraterrestrials at an air force base, and which president is reportedly afraid that he'll be killed if he speaks publicly about UAP. You can find show notes and references at our website, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠VeryExcitingTime.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, or support us at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠patreon.com/VeryExcitingTime⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

We open up by sharing a story from two players on the Las Vegas Raiders who say the entire team witnessed a UFO that did not appear on radar while flying home from a game. Then we talk about Lue Elizondo revealing that he and other whistleblowers have received threats, and declares that he is not suicidal. Finally, we get into a juicy bit of drama where Brandon Fugal, the owner of Skinwalker Ranch, claims that Sean Kirkpatrick was in a briefing he delivered to Congress in 2018, and that Kirkpatrick asserted the truth of the UFO phenomenon. Kirkpatrick denied this, but Fugal produced a photo proving Kirkpatrick was there, which raises the question… What else is Kirkpatrick lying about? You can find show notes and references at our website, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠VeryExcitingTime.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, or support us at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠patreon.com/VeryExcitingTime⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

The SALT conference invited Karl Nell to speak to an audience of high-powered investors about non-human intelligence on Earth, which Nell said he has “zero doubt” is happening. He also discussed what disclosure might look like, why the government might be reluctant to disclose, and why they should do it anyway, as well as explaining why “catastrophic disclosure” could lead to societal collapse! You can find show notes and references at our website, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠VeryExcitingTime.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, or support us at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠patreon.com/VeryExcitingTime⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

A bit of a wild ride in this episode, all kicked off by Chris Mellon sharing a Signal conversation with an unnamed senior government official who claimed to be getting access to the crash retrieval program, including a “recovered UAP that landed in Kingman, AZ in the 50s.” The Kingman crash is a legendary and controversial story, so we're getting into it today by discussing three witnesses of varying credibility, including a engineer who was bussed out to the crash site to estimate the crash velocity, a mechanical engineer who claims to have worked on flight simulators for human reproductions of the craft recovered from Kingman, and a microbiologist who claims to have worked with an alien survivor of the crash! Not all of it is believable, but if you accept the premise that a nonhuman craft crashed in Kingman in 1953, it's hard to know where to draw a line in the mess of contradictory claims around the crash. Buckle up, we're getting weird! You can find show notes and references at our website, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠VeryExcitingTime.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, or support us at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠patreon.com/VeryExcitingTime⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

It's been a busy week! John Oliver dedicated an episode of Last Week Tonight to UFOs and government coverups. Chris Mellon released a scathing review of AARO's historical UAP report. And a FOIA request documented AARO's attempts to get David Grusch to testify, their failures to address his security concerns, and includes Kirkpatrick's private Signal messages, where he badgers Mellon and is surprised by Marco Rubio's claims about whistleblowers. You can find show notes and references at our website, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠VeryExcitingTime.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, or support us at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠patreon.com/VeryExcitingTime⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

All of David Grusch's whistleblower claims were shocking, but none more than that the first UFO crash retrieval was in Magenta, Italy in 1933, and that Pope Pius XXII told the Americans about it at the end of the fascist regime. We're looking into leaked documents that support this claim, and dive a little deeper into what both David Grusch and Lue Elizondo say about this case that predates Roswell by almost 15 years! You can find show notes and references at our website, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠VeryExcitingTime.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, or support us at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠patreon.com/VeryExcitingTime⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

In this episode we cover a pile of recent UFO news. Ross Coulthart says Congress smells bullshit from the AARO historical report. Rep. Burlison and the UAP Caucus formally requested a UAP select committee. The Joint Chiefs released their new UAP reporting guidelines, which seems to contradict AARO's finding that there's no evidence of nonhuman craft. Oh, and multiple Navy ships and Air Force bases have been swarmed by mysterious drones. It's a very exciting time! You can find show notes and references at our website, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠VeryExcitingTime.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, or support us at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠patreon.com/VeryExcitingTime⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

After over a year of work, AARO has released the first volume of their report on the US government's historical UAP investigations, and surprise, they found there is no evidence of extraterrestrial activity or of a reverse-engineering program. However, it's worth putting this report in context of the previous 80 years of the US government saying publicly that there's nothing to the UFO phenomenon, while taking it very seriously behind closed doors. In addition to that, the report is full of errors, bad citations, and the ODNI won't endorse it. So it's fair to ask: Is this report part of a coverup? You can find show notes and references at our website, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠VeryExcitingTime.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, or support us at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠patreon.com/VeryExcitingTime⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

The SOL Foundation held their inaugural UAP symposium back in November, and the videos are finally live. The talks are great, and in this episode, we discuss four of them: Garry Nolan tells what he learned from UAP materials he's studied. Chris Mellon discusses the political consequences of disclosure. Kevin Knuth examines the physics of UFOs. And Karl Nell outlines a potential plan for controlled disclosure that avoids the negative consequences of catastrophic disclosure. It's a busy episode, buckle up! You can find show notes and references at our website, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠VeryExcitingTime.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, or support us at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠patreon.com/VeryExcitingTime⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

It's been a busy few weeks! There were five UFO-related commercials at the Superbowl. The SOL Foundation dropped the videos from their UAP conference. Congress had a minor freakout directly after a UAP briefing by Lue Elizondo. The DODIG found that the DOD's lack of a coordinated UAP plan leaves the US at risk. And Sean Kirkpatrick's article drew a lot of pushback, questions about whether he followed the DOPSR process, and raising concerns that he may be a disinformation agent. You can find show notes and references at our website, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠VeryExcitingTime.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, or support us at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠patreon.com/VeryExcitingTime⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

We've got a fun story today, one that's reminiscent of the “EBO scientist” story we discussed a few months ago. Like that person, this Redditor claims to have been involved in a secret government research project. But where the EBO scientist was studying the biology of alien corpses, this person was helping to prepare a report summarizing what the government knows about alien society and motivations based on interviews with recovered UFO occupants!You can find show notes and references at our website, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠VeryExcitingTime.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, or support us at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠patreon.com/VeryExcitingTime⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

Recently the House Oversight Committee got a classified briefing from the ICIG, which gave them some new information, including locations to investigate. Whistleblower David Grusch gave a private presentation where he said he was part of a secret program to track UAP, and that a US adversary may be trying to force disclosure. Finally, former AARO director Sean Kirkpatrick wrote an article that tries to dismiss Grusch's claims by teasing the upcoming historical report AARO will release. Hint: it says AARO has found no evidence of extraterrestrials or secret programs. Travis Taylor is unimpressed with Kirkpatrick's “scientific” approach. You can find show notes and references at our website, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠VeryExcitingTime.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, or support us at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠patreon.com/VeryExcitingTime⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

in 1996, a UFO crashed outside the city of Varginha, Brazil. Several people reported seeing short beings with large red eyes, oily skin, and a strong smell of sulfur. The military cordoned off parts of the town, and captured two of the creatures. Witnesses were intimidated by men in dark suits. A police officer died of mysterious causes after handling one of the creatures. Then the US Air Force takes all the recovered crash debris and bodies. The Brazilian military denied everything, but the event got a lot of attention and is commonly called “the Roswell of Brazil.”You can find show notes and references at our website, ⁠⁠⁠⁠VeryExcitingTime.com⁠⁠⁠⁠, or support us at ⁠⁠⁠⁠patreon.com/VeryExcitingTime⁠⁠⁠⁠.

We're opening the show with a bit of a bummer, because Schumer's UAP disclosure amendment in the NDAA failed. Some UAP language remains, but it's been severely watered down to the point of being perhaps useless, but Lue Elizondo reassures us that there's a plan B in the works. Ross Coulthart interviewed Retired Navy Admiral Tim Gallaudet, who says plainly that we're in contact with a non-human intelligence. And lastly, David Grusch dropped some big news: He's just gained security approval to reveal that he has firsthand knowledge from being read into a UAP program, and is going to release an op-ed in the coming weeks. You can find show notes and references at our website, ⁠⁠⁠VeryExcitingTime.com⁠⁠⁠, or support us at ⁠⁠⁠patreon.com/VeryExcitingTime⁠⁠⁠.

In this episode we discuss the ongoing efforts in Congress to reconcile the NDAA, where top Republicans are fighting to water down Senator Schumer's UAP Disclosure Amendment, especially the clause that gives the government eminent domain powers to claim any UFOs being held by private aerospace companies. We also look at why everyone's using the phrase “catastrophic disclosure,” which comes from a leaked slide by retired Army Colonel Karl Nell, which outlines a gradual ten-year disclosure plan that would ease the public into accepting the reality of UAP. You can find show notes and references at our website, ⁠⁠VeryExcitingTime.com⁠⁠, or support us at ⁠⁠patreon.com/VeryExcitingTime⁠⁠.

In this episode we cover some QuickHits of news, including a Congressional bill to restore Grusch's security clearance, the HOC getting to read Grusch's DOD IG complaint, AARO adding a reporting form to their website (that's only for military and won't accept classified info), and Dr Sean Kirkpatrick is retiring in December. Then we dive into a speculative history of the UFO reverse engineering program, as imagined by an aerospace engineer, which explores how a Manhattan Project-style program could have ended up in the hands of private aerospace companies, and how that might be tied to the February shoot-downs and Senator Schumer's disclosure bill. You can find show notes and references at our website, ⁠VeryExcitingTime.com⁠, or support us at ⁠patreon.com/VeryExcitingTime⁠.

AARO released the 2023 UAP report, which feels like a student turning in a last-minute term paper without having done any research. It only covers eight months, and doesn't mention Grusch or any other big UFO news. Meanwhile, the House Oversight Committee got the DOD Inspector General into a SCIF, where he told them absolutely nothing. Oh, and the former director of a Pentagon UFO program released a new book where he says the US gained access to the inside of a UAP with no engine or way to fly, but won't give any more details. And finally, this episode marks our one-year anniversary!You can find show notes and references at our website, VeryExcitingTime.com, or support us at patreon.com/VeryExcitingTime.

In this episode, former UAP program director Lue Elizondo and UAP whistleblower David Grusch both predict that 2024 will be “wild in a good way.” Then we discuss the new Grusch interviews that dropped, which go into a bit more detail on why the government approved him talking about this stuff at all, the culture of secrecy, and how his autism worked in his favor during his investigation. And finally, the new Netflix documentary was quite good. It covers four different mass UFO eyewitness events, including the Ariel School incident and UFO sightings over Fukushima. You can find show notes and references at our website, VeryExcitingTime.com, or support us at patreon.com/VeryExcitingTime.

It's been a busy few weeks! We briefly touch on the Alien Mummy story in Mexico, report on some House UFO gossip, including another upcoming UAP hearing. We look at reports that multiple senators have been pressuring AARO to do a better job protecting whistleblowers, and a new article claiming more than 30 additional whistleblowers have come forward to the ICIG directly. And lastly, we discuss the report released by NASA's independent UAP study team, which manages to make a lot of solid recommendations about NASA's role in gathering UAP data moving forward, while also being dismissive and condescending toward the topic in general.https://www.patreon.com/VeryExcitingTime References Rep. Luna: “Still working on a SCIF for Grusch.” Rep. Burchett: “Speaker promised another hearing, but no select committee because guys in intelligence were getting their feathers ruffled.” Rep. Burchett: “We've had the whistleblower, now we're gonna get the government in.” Rep Burchett: “I was told we couldn't have a select committee because we stepped on the Intel Committee's toes.” Sen Rounds: “AARO needs to make sure whistleblowers can share info safely.” Sen Warner: “Rubio and I met with Kirkpatrick, this is a serious topic.” ICIG: “has not conducted any audit, inspection, evaluation, or review of alleged UAP programs” Rep. Burchett: “They have no info for Congress? Cover-up.” Matthew Pines: “Is it curious that an ‘investigation' is not denied?” Chuck McCullough: “IGs are reluctant to speak to Congress because it leaks like a sieve.” Michael Shellenberger: Dozens Of Government UFO Whistleblowers Have Given Testimony To Congress, Pentagon, And Inspectors General, Say Sources NASA: UAP Independent Study Team Report (archive.org link) Red Sprite imagery: https://svs.gsfc.nasa.gov/11059 NASA: NASA Shares UAP Independent Study Report; Names Director The Debrief: NASA's UAP Independent Study Team Publishes Its Findings, as the Agency Appoints a New NASA Director of UAP Research Daily Mail: NASA panel 'neglected' wind data to claim GOFAST UFO 'drifted' in wind Ross Coulthart: “NASA only looked at peer-reviewed scientific literature.” Chris Mellon: “In just 5 years, we have Congress, DOD, and NASA engaged.”

We're back with news from around the UAP community. First, Chuck's here to talk about Avi Loeb's claim to have recovered fragments of an interstellar object. Then we've got a quick update on more whistleblower activity. And finally, we've got some news about AARO, who recently moved in the org chart to report directly to Deputy Defense Secretary Hicks, who knocked some heads together and finally got their website launches (though it still has no contact info). Also, we discuss some reports that AARO themselves may be in possession of “anomalous materials!” https://www.patreon.com/VeryExcitingTime References Avi Loeb: Discovery of Spherules of Likely Extrasolar Composition USA Today: Metallic spheres found on Pacific floor are interstellar in origin, Harvard professor finds The Guardian: Astrophysicist Avi Loeb: ‘UFOs should be the subject of mainstream inquiry. Science must bring clarity' New York Times: Scientist's Deep Dive for Alien Life Leaves His Peers Dubious Liberation Times: People vs. Pentagon: The Battle for UFO Transparency Defense Scoop: Hicks takes direct oversight of Pentagon's UAP office; new reporting website to be launched Kelly Chase: “Sounds like Kirkpatrick's on a PIP.” All-Domain Anomaly Resolution Office website The Debrief: The All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office Has Finally Launched Its Official Website. Here's What's Missing. Michio Kaku: “The burden of proof has shifted.” Liberation Times: Multiple Sources Confirm The Pentagon's UFO Office Has Coordinated Collection And Analysis Of Material From Unknown Origin Matt Ford: “Multiple people have bypassed AARO to file whistleblower reports with the ICIG.”

Although Congress is still on break for another couple weeks, we're back with a bit of news. Reps. Burchett and Luna are still pushing to get a SCIF to hear Grusch's classified testimony, but claim the DOD is stonewalling them. Ross Coulthart says the Pentagon and Intel Community are applying pressure to Congress to drop the UAP thing, and suddenly Rep. Turner says there will be no more UAP hearings in the House Oversight Committee to protect the reputation of the DOD. Plus, White House national security spokesman John Kirby dodges an opportunity to deny Grusch's claims, while Gov. Christie laughs off a UFO question at the Republican presidential debate. https://www.patreon.com/VeryExcitingTime References Rep Luna: “We're working on getting Grusch clearance and access to a SCIF.” Jeremy Corbell: “Grusch has been muzzled, but it won't last.” Rep Burchett: “We wrote to the ICIG for details.” The Hill: “Lawmakers want subpoena power in UFO inquiries” The Hill: “UFO whistleblower claims not denied by John Kirby” Jen Psaki: “I wasn't on the alien or UFO portfolio.” Chris Mellon: “Sadly, no further UAP hearings in the HOC.” Klaus: “Lack of HOC hearings not the disaster some make it out to be.” Ross Coulthart: “The pushback from Pentagon and IC is intense.” Rep Burchett staffer: “Rep Turner convinced Rep Comer UAP hearings would harm DOD reputation.” Liberation Times: “Pressure Mounts On House Intelligence Chairman Following Dismissive And Baffling Approach To “Credible And Urgent” UFO Whistleblower Allegations” The Debrief: “Questions About UAP Enter the 2024 Presidential Race” Vivek Ramaswamy: “We can handle the truth.”

This week we're covering two topics. Firstly, UAP whistleblower David Grusch's past struggles with PTSD and suicide are published, sparking claims that the intelligence community is attempting to discredit Grusch and intimidate other witnesses. Then, we get weird, discussing a Reddit post where a molecular biologist claims to have worked in a program studying the genetics of alien bodies for a defense contractor. The details are fascinating, and there's some indications that the scientist may be legit. Chuck and I are especially fascinated by his claims about the alien's religion, belief in a “soul field.” https://www.patreon.com/VeryExcitingTime References The Debrief: The Struggles of a Whistleblower: Separating Fact from Fiction in the Latest UAP Revelations Ken Klippenstein: “Multiple people told me to look at run ins with law enforcement.” Ross Coulthart: “The tip could only have come from Grusch's security files.” Tim Burchett: “Someone needs to lose their job.” George Knapp: “Attempted slime job on Grusch is a warning to other whistleblowers” Lue Elizondo: “A veteran's PTSD should NEVER be used against them.” Reddit: “I worked as a molecular biologist in a program to study EBOs.”

In this week's exciting episode, we cover the aftermath of last week's explosive UAP hearing, including Chris Mellon's claims that AARO is withholding satellite imagery of UAP from Congress, the fallout and possible legal consequences of Dr. Kirkpatrick's weird LinkedIn post, continued evasion from the Pentagon, and the major aerospace companies going into press lockdown following whistleblower allegations that they're involved in the reverse engineering program. You can support us on Patreon! References Chris Mellon: “AARO has not shared satellite images with Congress” Chris Mellon: “The oversight committees were asking about satellite data back in 2017.” Chris Mellon: “I've seen some VERY compelling evidence.” Liberation Times: Department of Defense Confirms UFO Chief Did Write Scathing Letter Following Public Hearing Rep Luna: “We had a witness testify he was in fear for his life and his former boss posts a letter attempting to discredit him? Seems odd.” Nick Pope: “firing off a personal missive like this was unheard of.” Rogue UAPTF: “Kirkpatrick's statement was unethical and likely illegal.” Tim McMillan: “Never seen a sr civil servant publicly admonish Congress” Jeremy Corbell: “Interfering with Congress and whistleblowers is illegal” Eric Weinstein: “warring factions in the US government.” Sen. Gillibrand: “I asked for Dr Kirkpatrick to meet with Grusch.” Ross Coulthart: “AARO is sending a shocking signal - no phone, no email” Liberation Times: “Dozens of firsthand whistleblowers are frustrated with AARO's handling of their claims.” AOC: “I do think something is going on.” Condorman: “sudden hard industry crackdown on all things UAP” NewsNation: “Lockheed does not deny whistleblower claims.” Ross Coulthart: “Why should DOD answer for Lockheed?” Condorman: “Executives' past bonuses can be ‘clawed back' if they've withheld financial significant information.” Attorney: “C-Suite will sing like canaries to avoid prison”

The House Oversight Committee's UAP Hearing just happened, and it was remarkable! Navy pilots David Fravor and Ryan Graves recounted their historic UFO encounters, and intelligence community whistleblower David Grusch reiterated his claims that the government has illegally concealed a UAP crash retrieval and reverse engineering program from Congress. Though these claims have been heard before, it was notable that they testified under oath to an engaged and bipartisan group of representatives. There was no joking, no attempts to undermine the claims being made, and no political maneuvering. The tone was remarkably serious, and the clear impression is that Congress isn't letting this topic go. They're on the ball, and already talking about next steps, including the formation of a UAP select committee with subpoena power! Support us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/VeryExcitingTime References Video: Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Implications on National Security, Public Safety, and Government Transparency Opening statements from David Grusch, Ryan Graves, and David Fravor The Debrief: Whistleblowers Testify Under Oath Regarding "Craft of Non-Human Origin" and Military Encounters with UAP The Debrief: Congressman Provides Account of Military UAP Image That He Says Matches No “Human Capability” The Debrief: The Congressional Hearing on UAP: What We Learned From Yesterday's Testimony Reddit: Grusch's rank and type Sean Kirkpatrick: statement on “hearings and transparency” Rep Moskowitz: HOC working to get classified Grusch info from ICIG Rep Moskowitz: I support the creation of a select committee on UAP Chris Mellon: “I've been told we have recovered non-earth technology.” Sean Cahill: “People mischaracterize Grusch as a witness. He's the investigating officer.” Reddit: “Wasn't analyzing secondhand info Grusch's job?” Kelly Chase: No legal mechanism to share classified info with public Kelly Chase: The firsthand whistleblowers are coming Kelly Chase: The popular debunker narrative is no longer tenable

They've announced the witnesses for the House Oversight Committee's UAP hearing, including whistleblower David Grusch as well as Navy pilots David Fravor and Ryan Graves. Several Congresspeople are hopping mad about being denied access to videos and whistleblowers during a visit to Elgin Air Force Base, and they're making it clear that the upcoming hearing is a direct effort by Congress to confront ongoing Pentagon interference in their UFO investigation. It's clear Congress knows more than they're saying… Could it be the reason they're pushing so hard is because they already have smoking gun evidence? References Video: Rep. Burchett and colleagues hold press conference on upcoming Oversight Committee hearing on UAPs Rep. Burchett: “I don't believe they can keep their thumb in the dam much longer.” Rep. Luna: “The Pentagon answers to the people and thus Congress” Rep. Moskowitz: “Disclosure is coming!” Exoacademian: “This is not your imagination.” Dr Kirkpatrick: “We believe [the whistleblowers] have seen something.” Gaël Lombart: “It's not clear to me that Grusch has no firsthand info.” Lue Elizondo: “You are wrong [that Grusch has no firsthand info].” Lue Elizondo: “Chris and I are still very much in the fight.” Chris Mellon: “Congress should ask the ICIG what it has uncovered.” Lue Elizondo: “I know Grusch personally and he's an American treasure.” Ross Coulthart: “Here's someone Congress should question under oath.” Post Disclosure World: “For those disappointed… the media will cover it.” Rep. Burchett: “We lost a witness because of Pentagon interference.” Rep. Burchett: “Why is the intelligence community blocking my amendment?” Yankeenate: “From a certain point of view, both Burchett & McGovern are correct.” Rep. Burchett: “We were denied access to footage.” Debrief: Pentagon Official Warns of Potential Threat From Extraterrestrial “Technical Supremacy” as UAP Hearing Approaches Mick West: “Witnesses have told their story before. What will we get from this hearing?” Garry Nolan: “Congress is doing this scientifically. This is the validation process.” Oversight Committee: “All witnesses are sworn in prior to delivering testimony.” NASA: “NASA was not requested to participate in the UAP hearing.” Mid Bay News: Members of Congress Lambast Eglin General Over UFO Information Rep. Luna: “The level of backtracking from the Pentagon is unreal.” Matt Gaetz: “I have seen evidence of craft that I am not familiar with.” Liberation Times: As UFO Momentum Accelerates, Something Has To Give