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President Trump claims aliens live in our oceans. AARO purchases access to a private collection of UFO records. George Knapp and Jeremy Corbell claim the White Sands operation used nuclear material to lure UAP. The UAP Science Advisory Council learned the US has a disclosure preparedness plan. Congressional briefings on UAP retrievals are psychologically disturbing and staffers have been offered psychological support. And finally, Matthew Brown claims there is an oral tradition in the legacy program that agreements have been entered into with nonhuman intelligences.You can find show notes and references at our website, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠VeryExcitingTime.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, or support us at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠patreon.com/VeryExcitingTime⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.00:00:00 Introduction00:02:43 “They're in the ocean.”00:07:57 AARO Purchases Private UFO Records00:15:52 UFO Luring Operations00:34:00 Disclosure Preparedness Plan00:42:45 Congressional UAP Briefings00:50:50 Matthew Brown on NHI Agreements01:10:55 Recommendations

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It is never too late to chase a dream, even one that has waited decades for its turn. My guest, Evan Katz, built a career in journalism, public finance, and local government before taking an unexpected path into professional baseball. After first playing organized baseball at age 45, Evan became a professional player at 61 and later coached professional baseball at 69. We talk about how fear can become motivation, why setbacks can be powerful learning opportunities, and how skills gained across a lifetime can prepare us for challenges we never expected to face. Evan also shares what he learned from calling himself the “least qualified coach in professional baseball,” and how listening, mentoring, and supporting others became some of his greatest strengths. His story is a wonderful reminder that personal growth, career change, and lifelong learning do not come with an expiration date. Highlights: 02:47 – How family work ethic shaped Evan's drive. 11:26 – How fear can become motivation. 13:08 – Why setbacks can become learning opportunities. 35:06 – What local government taught Evan about growth. 42:29 – Why he started playing baseball at 45. 53:37 – How he became a professional baseball coach at 69 About the Guest: Evan grew up in Brookline, Massachusetts two miles from Fenway Park in the 1960s and quickly learned the emotional highs and lows of being a Red Sox fan.  When the Red Sox won the World Series in 2004, after an 86-year championship drought, he rang church bells to celebrate. After a long award-winning career in municipal and public school finance in Massachusetts, and raising a family of four with his wife Liz, Evan began his late-life baseball career in earnest at age 65.  He was an assistant high school coach for three years, and documented the team's Massachusetts state championship in the story “No Earbuds in the Outfield.” Evan Katz's pro baseball career began at age 61 when he pitched for the White Sands Pupfish of the independent Pecos League in 2017. When euphoria subsided and his infinity ERA began to sting, Evan returned to the Pecos League at age 67. With the Austin Weirdos he became one of the oldest pitchers ever to start a minor league game and lowered his ERA to 29.25 After an aborted stint as pitching coach with the Roswell Invaders in 2024, Evan returned to the Pecos League in 2025 as bullpen coach of the North Platte 80s. As the 80's scout he recruited players for the second-year Nebraska team.  As bullpen coach he supported the North Platte pitching staff which anchored the team's 27-21 record and helped the team reach the second round of the playoffs. And this despite just three years as a high school coach, and no college coaching experience. There were more than 2000 coaches among nearly 300 major, minor and independent pro baseball teams and Evan was the least qualified. To share his second career in baseball and other inspiring baseball stories, Evan manages his baseball website “Baseball by the Sea Media.” It includes exclusive feature stories plus biographies and game stories published by the Society for American Baseball Research. It also links to the 2024 award-winning two-season podcast he co-hosted with Bruce McClure, “Baseball's Last Frontier: Stories from the Pecos League.” Ways to connect with Evan**:** https://sites.google.com/view/baseballbythesea/home https://www.linkedin.com/in/evan-katz-351554b/ About the Host: Michael Hingson is a New York Times best-selling author, international lecturer, and Chief Vision Officer for accessiBe. Michael, blind since birth, survived the 9/11 attacks with the help of his guide dog Roselle. This story is the subject of his best-selling book, Thunder Dog. Michael gives over 100 presentations around the world each year speaking to influential groups such as Exxon Mobile, AT&T, Federal Express, Scripps College, Rutgers University, Children's Hospital, and the American Red Cross just to name a few. He is Ambassador for the National Braille Literacy Campaign for the National Federation of the Blind and also serves as Ambassador for the American Humane Association's 2012 Hero Dog Awards. https://michaelhingson.com https://www.facebook.com/michael.hingson.author.speaker/ https://twitter.com/mhingson https://www.youtube.com/user/mhingson https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelhingson/ Thanks for listening! Thanks so much for listening to our podcast! If you enjoyed this episode and think that others could benefit from listening, please share it using the social media buttons on this page. Do you have some feedback or questions about this episode? Leave a comment in the section below! Subscribe to the podcast If you would like to get automatic updates of new podcast episodes, you can subscribe to the podcast on Apple Podcasts or Stitcher. You can subscribe in your favorite podcast app. You can also support our podcast through our tip jar https://tips.pinecast.com/jar/unstoppable-mindset . Leave us an Apple Podcasts review Ratings and reviews from our listeners are extremely valuable to us and greatly appreciated. They help our podcast rank higher on Apple Podcasts, which exposes our show to more awesome listeners like you. If you have a minute, please leave an honest review on Apple Podcasts. Transcription Notes: Michael Hingson  00:04 What if the biggest thing holding you back isn't what's in front of you, but rather what you believe? Welcome to Unstoppable Mindset, where inclusion, diversity, and the unexpected meet. I'm your host, Michael Hingston, speaker, author, and advocate for inclusion and possibilities. This podcast explores how the beliefs we carry shape the way we live, lead, and connect with others. Each week, I talk with people who challenge assumptions, face adversity head-on, and show what's possible when we choose curiosity over fear. Together, we focus on mindset, resilience, and the small shifts that lead to meaningful change. Let's get started. Hi, everyone, and welcome to another Unstoppable Mindset podcast episode today. We get to chat with Evan Katz, and Evan's got an interesting life, especially since, if you will, he started the second part of his life, or maybe it's not the second, maybe it's later, of being a professional baseball coach at the age of 61. Well, we're going to hear about that. Evan lives in Massachusetts, in Swampscott, grew up in Brookline, which was very close to where the Red Sox play. I'm sure he's got lots of stories that we get to talk about with that. But anyway, Evan, I want to welcome you to Unstoppable Mindset. We're really glad you're here. Evan Katz  01:42 Thanks, Michael. I really appreciate the invitation. I I think that I'm excited to be part of a show with with with the theme that that you emphasize because I think that that when you reached out to me to ask if I was interested in in sharing some of my life experiences, I realize that there's a there's an unstoppable part of my mindset that has allowed me to achieve some things I didn't think were going to be possible. Michael Hingson  02:10 There you go. Well, you know, a lot of times we plan, and what we plan doesn't always necessarily go exactly the way we thought. But that's okay. It's it's a question what we do with it and what we learn from it. I suppose why don't we start by you telling us a little bit maybe about the early Evan growing up and and all that. And I know that you had mentioned that you think you actually got your kind of unstoppable mindset attitude from your parents and all that. So if you want to talk about that as as we go, you're welcome to. But anyway, why don't you start by telling us a little bit about the early Evan, if you will. Evan Katz  02:42 Sure. Well, you know, as you mentioned, I grew up outside of Boston in the town of Brookline, which is about two miles from Fenway Park. I'm a baby boomer. My my parents worked really hard, and they they worked hard to get their first house. They worked hard to fix it up. My mother was at home. My father worked in his parents' hardware store and was always fixing up the house. We ended up upgrading houses because of all the work that he did. And my mother, although she wasn't working, you know, she was involved in local politics, trying to improve the schools. And one of the stories I told when she passed away a number of years ago that she was so effective about mobilizing people to make changes in the school system. One of the school principals said to somebody else, "Get that Pawnee cats off the phone, Michael Hingson  03:34 because of course Evan Katz  03:35 at the time telephone was the only way to connect with people. But you know she had her unstoppable mindset in terms of making changes in public education in Brookline, my dad in terms of living the dream that he had for his family, and I really think that that in my own way I picked up that same hard worth it work ethic, and it's popped up along the way throughout my my life and my career. I Michael Hingson  04:00 I know what you mean. I know my parents were somewhat the same way. My dad worked at. Well, we moved to California when I was five, and before we moved, we were in Chicago. And he and my uncle owned a TV repair shop, and my dad left that to move to California. Wanted to do that anyway, but he began working at a government installation, was called Plant 42, and then later transferred to Edwards Air Force Base. My mom stayed home for a while. She actually helped sell real estate, helped sell some of the houses on the street where we moved because they were they were brand new, and the real estate people trusted her, so she she did some of that. Don't know what she earned or how all that worked, but but she did okay. But my dad worked, and I I feel very blessed. They they clearly taught me a lot, and I value very much their work ethic. I know what you're talking about. Evan Katz  05:01 Well, family is a great resource, whether it's your immediate family or extended family. And also, again, at the time that that I was growing up, most of our extended family lived right in the area, so there was a lot of connecting with cousins and uncles and grandparents. And I think that had its own way of shaping because we had a pretty hardworking, determined family, and I think that got passed on again, not just in my parents, but from my extended family as well. We Michael Hingson  05:28 had aunts and uncles and cousins. A lot of them were in Chicago. Then aunt and uncle and their two boys and our cousins moved out to California, but it was long after we moved. And then our next closest relative was actually up in the San Francisco area. Aunt Bella and Uncle Oscar owned a shoe store, and but and there were some other people who we called aunts. I'm not sure that they actually were, but aunts and uncles. But they they lived in the L.A. area. But most of our relatives were not very close by. Well, that's that's fine, but value the relationships nonetheless. So what was what was school like for you? Well, elementary school and high school and so on. Evan Katz  06:22 Well, I went to the local elementary school, and as I think, as I as I suggested, it was one of the schools that was being neglected by the town. My mother and her friends advocated for equal resources. It was also during the time where Christmas carols were being sung in school, and it was not something that my parents thought was appropriate. I was Jewish. There were other Jewish kids in school, not very many, and just didn't seem like this was the thing that should be happening, given where our country was at the time. And so I did well in elementary school. I mean, the interesting thing was I skipped kindergarten, so I was always the youngest and the slowest on the playground, and it actually contributed to my not participating in sports through my early years and into into high school, which we will we'll hear more about that later. But I got a good education. I loved numbers. I learned in high school after I had horrible year my sophomore year writing. I was determined to learn. I took a couple of English classes from mr. Carey at Newton South High School. Learned to become a good writer, and ultimately that led to my writing on college newspapers and becoming a newspaper reporter. My first job out of college. So, you know, the kind of thing when you go through school, you try to figure out, you know, what are the things that that that sing to you. And first, it was numbers for me, and I ended up going into a career in public finance, and then the writing, which I ended up becoming a newspaper reporter, put that on hold. And about 10 years ago, or eight years ago, I started a baseball social media website, and I ended up writing baseball stories. So, so here I am in my my my formative years in school, taming numbers, becoming a CFO in the public sector, and becoming a good writer-they got me through life. Michael Hingson  08:33 How did you end up being able to skip kindergarten? Evan Katz  08:37 That was back in the day. They didn't have minimum age requirements. If you pass the test, you you got to go right to first grade. Michael Hingson  08:44 Ah, well, I know I went to kindergarten in Chicago, and you started in Chicago at age four. Then we moved to California, and the problem is in California you couldn't start kindergarten till age five, but I had had a year of kindergarten already, but they wouldn't let me just go to first grade because I was only five, so I ended up with two years of kindergarten. And I'm not sure that second year was all that exciting for me, because kids were drawing and doing all sorts of stuff that I wouldn't do being blind. But we coped, and we got through it. I also did love numbers and so on, and my dad taught me how to do math in my head, so I was really doing well with math. And my my mother helped me with spelling tests and reading other material to me, and so on. So we got through it, and again, they took that on without any remorse at all, which, as I think back on it, was just part of their gutsiness and their unstoppability. Because the doctors told them that no blind child could ever amount to anything, and they were going to prove the doctors wrong. And I would like to think that they did, but we. We went through it, and I didn't actually. I learned Braille when I was in kindergarten in Chicago, but then didn't have access to Braille till the fourth grade out here in California. Yep. Yeah. Well, but my my parents read and kept me up with everything, but still it was a problem. But then I got Braille again, and so it all worked out, but I, but I, but I know what you're saying. It still gets back to the work ethic, and our parents were gonna do everything they could to make sure we all succeeded, didn't they? Evan Katz  10:32 Well, and I think also, Michael, you've touched on it, and I did as well. You know, there are things, there are areas we go into, whether it's school or work or relationships, we're blessed with certain talents and traits, but we also have areas that are not our strengths, and we're always having to work to figure out how to how to compensate for our areas of call it weakness or limitations, and also how to allow our strengths to to overcome those and and then to help generate success. Michael Hingson  11:05 Yeah, and and we do need to do that. And and the reality is that we're all generally better at some things than we are at other things, but we can make it work if we if we try. I wrote and published with a colleague, Carrie Wagg Kent, two years ago a book called *Live Like a Guide Dog* which is all about learning to control fear and its life lessons that that tell us that fear doesn't need to overwhelm us or, as I put it, blind us. That that we can use fear as a very powerful tool to help us, and I mention that because there are so many things that we fear in the world, and most of them we don't have any control over. I mean, I know that there are things that that I don't get to do right now that other people do because they can see different things. But at the same time, I have gifts that most of those people never either learn to use or choose to use or can use, and so we all have to work together to make the world successful. And I think that's the big issue. Evan Katz  12:11 Well, I think your point about fear is really important because we we all have fears, we all have worries, and fear can be paralyzing, and but it can also be motivating, and I think it's important that if you get into a situation that that you're concerned about or worried about, you should acknowledge that you're in something. Maybe you're over your head, and we'll talk about my coaching a professional team at age 69 without ever having coached college baseball, going right from high school coaching to professional coaching, that was the hardest job of my life, and that fear motivated me to figure out how am I going to come up with those compensating skills? How am I going to be able to succeed? Because I want this to succeed not just for me, but for the players around me. So, so fear. It's important to to recognize it, and so that you know that it's there, but also be able to take advantage of what fear can motivate you to do. Michael Hingson  13:13 Well, and fear doesn't need to paralyze you unless you let it. And that's the the big issue: is that we don't learn generally how to control fear and to use fear in a positive way. We worry about so many things over which we'll never have control because we just don't, and we let all of that worry us, and that that certainly adds so much to the fear levels that we face, and if we would only learn to just focus on what we can control, that doesn't mean you don't be aware of other things. But don't worry about the things over which you don't have control. It will help your life a whole lot. Evan Katz  13:53 And another aspect to that is, and I and I learned this, and as I mentioned, I worked in the public sector for for for almost 40 years, and I came up with the phrase at one point, and I I don't remember the circumstances. And somebody said, "I don't know if this is going to work. I don't know if we have the money. I don't know we have the people. This may not be a good solution, or the operation may not work. And I said, "Well, I think we have to see if it fails because if it fails, then we're going to learn something. Obviously, we didn't want anyone to lose a job or to get hurt. It wasn't failing in that regard, but but the you have to have enough courage so that if something isn't going to work, you can use that as as a learning opportunity as well, so you can't have fear of failure either. Because then we can all look back. You're old enough. I'm old enough to look back on our lives and see those learning moments. Many of them came from times that didn't work out so well, Michael Hingson  14:55 which doesn't mean that we failed. And I think that's the big issue. I think we have to deal with. Failure is is something that we have to really get over thinking about because failure isn't really it. What what it is is that things didn't work out the way we planned, but that doesn't mean that we failed, which means we just can't go on. We're we're stuck. It's it's a learning experience, and that is part of what dealing with fear is all about. Is rather than worrying about it. All right, so this didn't work. Don't fret. Don't worry. Don't panic. What did you learn from it? How do we get beyond that? And that's the thing that we generally tend not to do very much: is to do a lot of self-analysis in our own lives. Take time at night to step back and look at what worked during the day, what didn't work, and the what didn't works weren't failures, but they were learning opportunities if we take advantage of our own skills to develop our mind muscle to do that. Evan Katz  15:57 Absolutely, I Michael Hingson  15:58 think that's that's so important. Well, so for you, you you where did you go to college? Evan Katz  16:08 I graduated from Newton South High School. We went from Brookline to Newton in the 70s. I went to a small college in Western New York, Alfred University, for two years, and ultimately graduated from Colby College in Maine in 1977. As I mentioned, I wrote for both the newspapers at Alford and Colby, and that's where I got my my my journalistic experience back then. Writing for college newspapers was was a big deal back then, Michael Hingson  16:39 yeah, Evan Katz  16:39 and that worked out really well. I was going to go into teaching. That was my original plan. I did some internships in college. I even, when I was at Colby, I took a semester and helped out at a small fourth grade class in neighboring Oakland, Maine, helping out kids doing lessons in the in the corridor and in the back of the room to help them with their math, but when I left college, I had done enough writing, primarily sports, that I decided to to follow journalism. But the college years were really an eye opener for me. As I mentioned, I was a year young. You know, I was the drinking age was 18, and I was still only 17 and a half when I went to college, but somehow my IDs got me through into the pub. But it was a really eye-opening experience going to college in New York. I'd been in Massachusetts my whole life and was in a small town in Western New York, and it was just so eye-opening to see a part of the country and people that were very unlike where I lived in terms of Alfred. Most of the kids were from New York, and then going to Maine, they were more from New England. But it was just a real eye-opening experience. I think we all go through that in our late teens and early 20s, really beginning to discover, you know, who we are, what situations are we comfortable in? We test ourselves. We do crazy things, and it all turned out okay because I was able to get a job right out of college. Michael Hingson  18:11 So teaching was your plan, but it didn't go that way. Evan Katz  18:16 No, it didn't. And interestingly enough, I was looking back through my father's memorabilia when he died, and I think I knew this, but I was reminded that he wanted to teach originally, and he actually was a mentor to many people during his working career. And he took great pride and went to the Peace Corps actually for a number of years in his 60s, and so you know the whole teaching mentoring thing ran in our family, so I guess it's kind of ironic that I ended up coaching baseball at age 65 as a as a teacher and a mentor. But but the college experience, you know, I still think about it. I just sold my vinyl records. It was it was a little traumatic, but I did sell my vinyl records recently because I can listen to everything over the internet now, and but that was a water watershed moment selling my vinyl that I listened to in college for all those years. Michael Hingson  19:14 I still have mine from working at the campus radio station. I got a lot of records back here, and I I am somewhat of the opinion of the I don't know whether I would call them snobs, but I still think the best quality is still vinyl. Evan Katz  19:30 Well, as you know, Michael, one of the best attributes of vinyl records is when they were originally the songs were compiled and sequenced. It was they were designed to listen through the whole side of an album. Michael Hingson  19:44 Yeah, Evan Katz  19:44 and I mean obviously Pink Floyd was classic, and I'm sure that there were others that come to mind that I can't think of. And I was a big fan of the Doobie Brothers, and to this day I'll still turn off my radio in the car and put on a couple of Doobie Brothers albums and listen to them straight. Same with Chicago. It just the music was meant to be arranged, you know, for half an hour or 35 minutes, not just three and a half minutes. And I think a little bit of that has been has been lost with today's music. Michael Hingson  20:13 Yeah. Well, I think there's there's truth to that. And I even go back further. I've been a fan for many many years of big bands, primarily Swing, Benny Goodman, and and so on, but also doop and early rock. But I and I like some of the other rock. But I've never been a great heavy metal fan. But that's okay. Some people like it, and then that's fine too. But I really enjoy my records as well, which is a lot of fun. Yeah, I Evan Katz  20:42 did listen to Van Halen cassettes driving. Somehow, a Van Halen arrangement wasn't quite the same as Chicago. No, Michael Hingson  20:50 no, it is a little bit different. There's no doubt about that. So, what was your job that you ended up getting out of college? Evan Katz  20:57 I ended up worked as a stringer, which I don't even know if there are any anymore, but I think I got paid 10 cents an inch for covering soccer for the Newton graphic. I covered the Newton South soccer team, and also I I don't know how much an hour I got. I covered the Westin Wildcats. That's a small town west of Boston for the Westin Town Crier. That's how I got started in journalism, and I ultimately was hired as a part-time reporter by the Walpole Times, which is small town southwest of Boston. And I eventually became a full-time reporter there, covering town government, writing feature stories, learned how to use a 35 millimeter camera. We we had our own darkroom there, and I thought it was so much fun going out to meetings, interviewing people, compiling stories. It was just it wasn't like work. It was it was it was exciting, and it paid the bills, and I was living on my own for the first time. Michael Hingson  22:06 That didn't get you to graduate to things like going into television on WEEI and doing sports for them, huh? Evan Katz  22:13 No, the the the written word at the time, and even today still is is where I am. Although, as I joke with my friends, just put a microphone in front of me, and I'll start talking. Michael Hingson  22:26 So that's okay. Well, so how long did you write? And then what happened Evan Katz  22:32 was, so as I mentioned, my mother was very involved in local government, and I grew up in Brookline. And the interesting thing was, I was covering the planning board and the school committee in Walpole, and I'm I'm going to the meetings and I'm listening to them talking about the issues that they're dealing with, and I'm thinking to myself, so this is what 1979. I'm 23 years old, and I'm thinking, I mean, I can do better than this. I mean, listening to these these people talk about how they're going to solve problems, and I said, I think I can really help. So, the local legislator from Walpole, his name was Frank Woodward, had an opening in his office, and I started working as a legislative aide for him, working in the state house. It was very exciting. My mother was so proud. When some one morning in March, I don't know if it was 1979 or 1980, and I walked up the steps of the State House. Big blue sky in Boston. It was a big golden dome. I'll never forget. I walked up the front steps, looked up at the golden dome and the big blue sky in March of whatever year that was, so excited. My mother was so proud. My dad was too, obviously. And then I got involved in government, and that's where it all started. Working in the state house to really begin to understand the importance of issues. You know, it wasn't just local government, but how the state government intersected with the federal government, and how much how how important government is to making people's lives safe and protected. Michael Hingson  24:07 Yeah, and I think that is that is something that although there is certainly a lot going on today that is not necessarily the the model of what government ought to be, probably, but still, government and what the House of Representatives and the Senate do at the federal level, and what happens at the at the state house and in the state government is really important. And I wish more people would seriously get involved with it, and and do it from an ethical standpoint. But you know, we, I guess, we go through through different kinds of eras of how things work. Evan Katz  24:54 Well, it's interesting in the tumult that we're going through here. I recently had a chance. Last month to go to England with my wife. I hadn't been there for a while, and and I was really struck by how the history dates back centuries and centuries and centuries prior. You know, to 1066, I guess is one of the lines in the sand or the dirt in England. But when they started the more modern era, and what I was really struck by when you think about a country like England and all the difficulties, all the changes, all the times that they were under threat from external forces, internal forces, all the chaos, and somehow they've survived. And I think this is one of the real attributes of Great Britain. And I just began to think about what we're going through here, and I think I have to be hopeful in the same way. Michael Hingson  25:56 Yeah, I agree that Evan Katz  25:57 that that we've been here for 250 years. I know it's short compared to England. Supposedly, one author says that republics die after 250 years. I don't know if I buy that necessarily, but but the point is that that that I think somehow, some way, we're going to survive this because other countries have been through much more over much longer periods of time, and here they are. And 2026 is stable, viable countries. Michael Hingson  26:25 Yeah, and they're still there, and they're going to be there. And I agree with you. I think that we're we're going to continue, and maybe republics die after 250 years, but it doesn't mean they have to. And I think that's that's part of it. So what did you what did you do in terms of you you went to work in the state house or what did you do? Evan Katz  26:48 And I was a legislative aide, so we would get information on legislation, take a lot of constituent phone calls because at the time the only time only way you got a hold of your legislator was either make a phone call. Of course, I think from Walpole to Boston, it might have been a toll call at that time. So maybe we got more letters from Walpole. I don't know, but constituent constituent concerns, working with state agencies to resolve things, and and it just got me acquainted with with with how government works, and it just gave me an appreciation for what it takes to make government work for for the the residents of Walpole and a couple other nearby towns, and also you get to see the the leaders of the state at that time the the Senate President and the the Speaker of the House, and you get to understand a little bit more how they show leadership and what skills and attributes work well, and what ones in your mind don't work well. But the whole bottom line is, you know, how is it working for the constituents? And to me, that became more and more important. Is what's the bottom line here? It's not about power. It's not about success at the legislator. The bottom line is the impact on people. Michael Hingson  28:13 Well, I remember that when I lived in Winthrop, every year I would go with people from the National Federation of the Blind, we went to Washington every year. Five, 600 of us descended on Washington and visited all of our legislators. And I remember actually once having the opportunity to set up an appointment and meet with Tip O'Neill. What an amazing guy he was! Yeah. But then also there was a new congressman who had just joined, Ed Markey. Evan Katz  28:45 Oh sure. Michael Hingson  28:46 Now look where he is. He's but but it was it was so much fun seeing Congress in action and actually being a part of it, talking about different kinds of issues, and of course it got to meet Ted Kennedy and also Paul Songas along the way as well. And I and I also was involved in things in in Massachusetts because one of the problems we had in the early '80s in Massachusetts and around the country was that blind people couldn't buy life insurance because the life insurance companies said we're a higher risk, we'll have a higher mortality rate, and finally, to keep the story short, we discovered that unlike what insurance companies say they do, which is they make their determinations always based on actuarial statistics, evidentiary data, and they create mathematical models based on evidence. They had absolutely not one single solitary thing to show that blind people or other people with disabilities were a higher risk than anyone else. So I worked back in the late 70s, early 80s with I don't you may. I've known him, Al Evan Katz  30:02 Sagasi. I recognize the name. Michael Hingson  30:03 Yeah, and so he he helped us shepherd a bill through that eventually eliminated discrimination in dealing with life insurance in Massachusetts, and and actually was something that passed in every state that all all the states dealt with that because the insurance companies were just playing games, which was so unfortunate. So when I was growing up, my parents couldn't insure me. When I was in college, I couldn't buy life insurance, and and eventually it got addressed. But it was, and it still is fascinating to think back and be a part of making a difference and really working to help constituents and help the legislature. Evan Katz  30:48 Well, there's a great example of numbers not being in action. You know, they're hiding behind perceived numbers, and then you do do a little bit of digging, and you find out that it's not quite as fact-based as they made it sound, Michael Hingson  31:02 yeah, and in fact there was no fact, and but still we worked through it, but the process was, I think, and still is for me one of the most fascinating things to to be able to go and be a part of dealing with things and and hopefully getting legislators to deal with issues and I'm not sure that there's as much of that that's happening today with everything going on but it'll come back. Evan Katz  31:34 Not not in Washington anyway. I think you've got to look to the states more than Washington. Washington's an anomaly right now. Michael Hingson  31:42 Yeah, Washington is really a big problem, and and but it'll it'll it'll switch at some point. I hope. I think it's going to have to, but but we'll see how it goes. If Speaker 1  31:55 you enjoy Unstoppable Mindset and would like to help us continue bringing these conversations to you each week, we've created a way for you to support the show. Your contribution helps us cover production costs and continue sharing stories, insights, and ideas that inspire people to live with purpose and possibility. If supporting the podcast feels right for you, you'll find the link in the show notes, thank you for being part of the Unstoppable Mindset Community. Michael Hingson  32:27 So you you went to work and you were legislative aide. How long did you do that? Evan Katz  32:32 Actually, not not. I think it was a little over a year because I ended up working on a referendum campaign. There's a thing in Massachusetts to limit property taxes, that's called Prop Two and a Half, that passed in 1980. I ended up working for Representative Woodward and a couple of other reps. There was an alternative on the tried to get on the ballot as an alternative to Two and a Half that wouldn't be quite as dramatic. Although I think, looking back as someone in the public sector, I think it's a good thing that Prop two and a half passed, but I got involved in working on a referendum campaign as an alternative to Prop two and a half. It didn't pass, and then at that point, I decided needed to get some professional training, and I went to get my graduate degree in public administration from the Kennedy School at Harvard, so I would have more credentials and I could really get into local government, and that really opened the door. Once I got my master's degree, I ended up working for the state. I think I mentioned my mother and family were from were from Brookline. We were acquainted with Governor Dukakis, and my mother worked actually very close with Govern was very close with Governor Dukakis, and he really encouraged me to go to graduate school, and I ended up going to the Kennedy School. And from there, I went and worked for his administration. The Massachusetts Department of Revenue started a division to support local government finance. It was really very innovative at the time in the early '80s. You know, cities and towns were separate. The state was just a regulatory reagency, and Governor Dukakis wanted to create an agency that could be a resource to local government to help them make better decisions. We created a municipal data bank to try to gather information to get to gather statistical information and ultimately help guide cities and towns to budget better, to plan their capital budgets better. And I was involved in the formation of that bureau in the Mass Department of Revenue. It was called the Division of Local Services, and I ended up working there in the early '80s, to really get a feel for how state government worked, state aid, and all that sort of thing, and then I learned enough there and decided to go out and see what it was like myself to work in a city or town, and that that's was around 1980. So I got my training at is in graduate school, learned more in state government, and then in the mid '80s went out to work in town halls and and city halls, and that that talk about fear, that that was frightening. Michael Hingson  35:18 It was a new experience. Evan Katz  35:20 Absolutely, you know, you you you you're in the state house, and there's there's 240 state reps and 40 senators, I think, all kinds of legislative aides. You're working in a state agency, and it's a whole bunch of 20 something and 30 something colleagues and bosses and this and that. There's always someone you can ask, always someone that can support you. You go to a town hall, and there's there's three clerks and a bunch of select board members. In Massachusetts, there are boards of selectmen in the small towns, or the select board now. Back then, it was select men, but you're on your own out there, and it's very, very different. You know, having a bunch of colleagues to support you in the big city when you're out in the small town of Groton, 40 miles from Boston, with 7000 people, and you're the resource in town hall. It's a lot different. Michael Hingson  36:18 I was just going to say that you you became the resource that people look to. Evan Katz  36:24 Yeah, and and so you take your professional training and you begin to develop some of those personal skills. And how do you relate to people? How do you gather information? How do you recover from from your mistakes? How do you make sure you have enough successes so that you got a good success to mistake ratio? But it's it it is very scary. I mean, I was what how old in 1986? So I was 30 years old, and it never. And I wanted to work in a small town, and I did, but it was a real, real eye-opening experience. But by the same token, you know, one of our biggest fears-you're the only person. One of the greatest attributes to the situation was you're immersed in everything. You learn everything. You learn about the police department, the fire department, which was a call department at that time. You know, if there was a fire, all the firemen, there might have been a couple of women as well, went to some went to the station to get the truck, and some drove in their cars to the scene of the fire, and and and you get a small town with one police officer on duty, you know, from from 11 to seven, you got a water department with two employees. You really get a feel for what's important and what isn't, and how do you make the system go, and what do you do in an emergency, and how do you plan for the future? And so it was it was it was frightening at one level because you're on your own and you're learning a brand new thing, but at the same time you're immersing yourself so deeply, and you're learning so much that that that that you're growing, you know, professionally and personally at a very very fast rate. Michael Hingson  38:16 And although you may or may not realize it at the time, those fears that that you started with slowly would be dissolving away because you were learning how to deal with things, and you were discovering that you had the ability to deal with things, and so you became less afraid in a positive way. Evan Katz  38:37 Right. Well, you know, you all know that the cycles in in businesses and cities and towns, and it's all in an annual cycle, the budget cycle, and you know you get through the first year and you start doing it again, and you're doing it again, and you really then you begin to expand your knowledge base. You're willing to to to experiment a little bit more, and and you're growing again at a very fast rate because you're able to do more and more that you weren't able to do when you first got there. Michael Hingson  39:10 Did you ever run for any office? Evan Katz  39:13 Actually, I did. When I left Groton, I finance was my area of interest, as as I mentioned earlier. I was hired by the city of Medford, which is just north of Boston, up Route 93, probably I don't maybe 810 miles north. And when I was working there, I was the city's finance director. You talk about culture shock, so I go from the small town of Groton with seven people to a to a 50,000 the city of 50,000 with a with a palatial city hall right off Route 93 and but I was chosen for because of my background in finance. And when I was working there, I decided that the town of Groton might benefit from my experience as an elected official. So I was working in Medford as finance director, and I ran for assessor in Groton to get started. Elected assessors to value properties and administered the taxes, and then ultimately I ran for select board a couple years after that. Michael Hingson  40:27 Were you elected? Evan Katz  40:29 I did. Yeah, I won. Okay. And here's another thing that I learned. You know, I haven't always seen elected boards, whether it was the select board or city councils or legislators, you see elected officials in action at meetings and talking about problems and making phone calls, but you forget there's a lot of other work that goes on behind the scenes when you're at home at night and when you run into somebody on the street. And so I was I was very prepared for the for the technical aspects of it, the problem solving, but I forgot about the time that it takes when people call you or have a have a have a problem with a nearby dog, or someone put up a fence, or the traffic on my street is going too fast. You have to call people. You got to follow up. You got to again. Back in the old days, it's all by telephone. So the amount of time that it took to resolve problems and have meetings, I forgot about the the the extra time that it takes when you're an elected official to do that behind the scenes stuff. But but I enjoy doing that as well. Michael Hingson  41:41 Yeah, I'll bet. And you know, it it is just it it you figure out that that's part of what you have to do. And again, I think the big issue is in figuring all that out is learning to recognize that's part of what you have to do, and accepting that that's definitely part of the job, and not trying to blow it off, not trying to get angry at people, which all too often happens today, I think more than it than it needs to. But it is part of the job. It's all part of the job, and no matter what, that hasn't really changed. Evan Katz  42:19 And I think it's I think it's in any job, and I think people have perceptions about certain types of jobs, whether it's you're you're you're a plumber, a truck driver, a lawyer. You know, people understand the responsibilities at the surface level and the visible level, but they're they're not as aware of what goes on behind the scenes, what it takes to to get things going, and and I think that's probably not and maybe underappreciated in some situations about what it takes to to to do things behind the scenes that are not as exciting, where there's more drudgery, and and and the amount of time that it takes to get you into the seat of the truck, to get you to have a meeting with clients, if you're some kind of professional, if you're a doctor, there's there's there's a lot more to any job, and I think that that that it's important to recognize it for ourselves. You know, it's not just the let's call it the glamorous part of the job. Michael Hingson  43:29 Yeah, Evan Katz  43:30 there's the behind the scenes part of the job, and the same goes for all jobs. And I think it's important to remember that. Michael Hingson  43:36 I agree. Well, you did all this work, and you kept doing it for quite a while. So, what got you into baseball, other than being a fan? But you know, Evan Katz  43:46 well, loyal Red Sox fan, been to Fenway hundreds of times, as I mentioned earlier. Was started school a year early, so I never played sports, and my kids in my 40s had finished little league, and they were all done with their sports careers at that point. And I decided I wanted to play baseball at age 45. Michael Hingson  44:14 There you go. I had Evan Katz  44:15 never played. I had never played little league. I never played high school. Never played college. And at age 45, a friend of mine who I grew up with in Brookline, he encouraged me to go to a baseball camp in Florida in 2002, and at that point, my my interest in baseball and my fandom in baseball expanded to becoming a a player and having to learn about the game as a player, not just as someone watching the game. Michael Hingson  44:47 And what did your wife think of that? Evan Katz  44:49 Well, my my wife will mention that my my wife Liz, our first date was on march 30, 2002, and that was the date. Of my first baseball practice in Massachusetts, so she has been there from the beginning of my baseball career. And if it wasn't for her one acceptance of it and her support of it, I never would have been able to achieve and enjoy all that all that I have, but she she is is is my biggest fan and supporter. Michael Hingson  45:29 That's great. She's a Red Sox fan, I would presume. Evan Katz  45:33 Yeah, Red Sox fan. Yep, and you know we watched them clinch it in 2004. We've been to Fenway together, and you know she, you know, like I played adult baseball, and and you know the when guys join, their spouses or girlfriends come the first for a bunch of games in the beginning, but then they just lose interest. Understandably, it's you know it's old man baseball. It's not like it is on TV. She she comes from time to time, but but she she's got her own life to live now. So that's okay. Michael Hingson  46:05 Well, so so tell me how baseball progressed for you. So you you started working at playing. Evan Katz  46:15 Yeah. So I went to this baseball camp in Florida, which I actually just came back from. It's called the Ponstellion Baseball Camp, and it's from a league in Washington, and they started going down for a week of what they call spring training. Well, for Washington, baseball starts a little earlier, Washington D.C. So we go down the end of January, and you know, getting on the field isn't too far away as long as there's no snow on the ground in the DC metro area. But I started going to that camp in 2002, and there was a group of professional coaches at this camp who were major league and minor league affiliated, and they have been coming to this camp since the beginning. This is now 2026. They've been going to the camp as long as as the longtime players, and so what happened was, you know, I was playing adult baseball, and there was a year where it rained a lot, and we had games postponed, and I'm driving around Fort Myers, and I think I was 60 years old at the time, so this would be 2016. And I said to myself, you know, what would be the chances that I could find a minor league team that would let me play, so I could live my dream of being a professional baseball player? And I grew up around in Brookline. I collected baseball cards. I played imaginary baseball games in my yard. Played wiffle ball with my friends. Watched the Red Sox on TV. You know, it's been in my blood since I was a little kid. And of course, many little kids want to be professional basketball players, hockey players, football players. Well, for me, it was baseball. So here I am, 60 years old, and I asked a couple of people at the camp. One of them was Stan Clyburn, played for the Angels in the 80s, and he's managed in the minor leagues for 1000s of games. He's still managing to this day. And Steve Little, who was a coach at the time with the Twins, I asked them, "Do you think I could find a minor league team that would allow me to play for them, so I could live my dream, play professional baseball? And they said, "Sure. Oh yeah, you you should give it a shot. And they gave me a couple names. Ultimately, it took me a year and a half, and I found the Pecos League, which is a low level of independent baseball. I got a hold of the commissioner. His name is Andrew Dunn, and I called him up in March. It turned out this would be March of 2017. I went out to my car at a lunch break from school. I had his phone number, and he answers the phone, "Hello, baseball. And I explain the situation, and he said, "You want to get in a game? We'll get you in a game. And that was that was in 2017. Michael Hingson  49:15 Wow! Evan Katz  49:16 And way it the way it turned out, he invited me out to play for the White Sands Pupfish the last weekend of the season, it had to be with teams that it wouldn't affect the playoffs. And I went out to White Sands, New Mexico, White Sands National Park is there. Alamogordo and the the White Sands Pupfish. I I pitched to two batters, walked one and hit one. I had one plate appearance and was called out on strikes. Didn't lift the bat off my shoulder. Too much fear, as I look back on it. But I became a professional baseball player at age 61. Michael Hingson  49:57 Well, so you got to live your dream. Evan Katz  50:00 Yep, Michael Hingson  50:00 and so after you pitched, what did you do? Evan Katz  50:04 Well, it was all very exciting, and I I actually was interviewed by Bill Littlefield on the NPR radio show Only a Game, talking about playing baseball at age 61, and my friends thought it was really neat and cool, and I had some pictures made, and I gave a lot of graph pictures to Stan Clyburn and Steve Little to thank them for inspiration, and it was all fun. But you know, in baseball, if you're a pitcher and you give up a run without getting anybody anybody out, you have an ERA, which is an earned run average. How many runs you give up in nine innings? Michael Hingson  50:43 Right. Evan Katz  50:43 I had an ERA of infinity. I'm in baseball reference with all these big known baseball players. I'm there with my my my stat line with an ERA of INF infinity, and I'm 65 years old, and I'm saying, man, I don't want to have an ERA of infinity. I don't want to retire with an ERA of infinity, so I got a hold of of Andrew Dunn again, and I said, Andrew, can I come out and pitch again? I want to get my ERA below infinity. I want to get somebody out. So it turns out in 2023, he assigned me to pitch for the Austin weirdos keep Austin weird, right? Keep Portland weird. Keep Burlington weird. You know, keep but whatever weird city you know they have their slogans of keeping the city weird. So Austin weirdos. And the interesting thing was that the weirdos that year in 2023, they had a home field in Austin, but it got burned out. They didn't they didn't have enough water, so they lost their home field. They turned into an all road team, and no player likes to drive through the Pecos League through the desert Southwest from Texas to Arizona, Michael Hingson  52:00 right Evan Katz  52:01 up to Kansas and Colorado for weeks on end. I get to the end of the season, the last weekend of the season in Alpine, Texas, to play the Alpine Cowboys, of course, in Texas, and the Austin Weirdos only have 11 players, and I can pitch. It's a Friday night, and there's a doubleheader on Saturday, and the manager decides, well, we got a guy here who hasn't pitched recently. He should start the game on Friday night. I get a text from the manager in the middle of the day. Evan, you're starting tonight, Derek Dominguez. Talk about no fear. Yeah, starting a 67-year-old pitcher against a lineup of 20-year, 25-year-olds, and I I started against the Alpine Cowboys, and talk about managing your fear. They have it's an old baseball stadium was built in the 1940s. It's got a grandstand behind home plate. You know, a couple things happen there. First of all, I get to the park early because the team was driving. They had to drive. This is the amazing thing. 1111, players. They had to drive 700 miles from the night before from Blackwell, Oklahoma, to Alpine. Michael Hingson  53:20 Wow. Evan Katz  53:22 The catcher comes in the dugout. Wonderful young man. You know, pitchers always worry who is going to catch them. Who's my catcher? And I'm in the dugout waiting, and a young man comes up to me, and he knows who I am, and he says, "I'm Marcus Bracy, and I'm catching you tonight. And the way he said that to me made me feel like he was going to take care of me, and we warmed up. I didn't have any fear. And one thing I did though, when I went out to the mound in the bottom of the first inning, and every inning after that, I made it to the fifth. By the way, I never looked up into the stands. I never wanted to see the crowd. I wanted to keep my eyes focused on this catcher, and that is what helped me get through. And I gave up two runs an inning into the fifth inning. And the interesting thing was that that that was about the team's average. The earned run average for the Austin Weirdos that year was 18 because they had lost so many players, they didn't have many pitchers, and I ended up for that game with an ERA of about 18. So I pitched the same as all the 25-year-old pitchers that pitched for Austin that year. Michael Hingson  54:39 There you go. That certainly is. That certainly is pretty cool. So, what year was that? Evan Katz  54:48 That was 2023. Michael Hingson  54:49 Okay. So, what's happened since? Evan Katz  54:52 Well, I was so taken by the Pecos League and some of the players there, and I had been coaching high school for three years. You know, I had. I had coached at Manchester Essex High School, just north of Boston. I had coached the pitchers and the catchers there. We won the state championship in 2022, and yeah, I saw I'd done a little bit of coaching. And I knew the Pecos League didn't have a lot of money. It didn't pay the players anything hardly. Players make less than $1,000 for most of the teams, and many of the coaches are volunteer coaches. And I asked one of the players; his name was Alex Westman, really nice, nice fellow. I met him for breakfast actually in the fall after the season. I was out visiting my my son in Arkansas. Met him in Missouri for breakfast, and I said, think, think the Pecos League could use a coach like me, and Alex is always an upbeat guy. And unfortunately, Alex was passed away a couple years ago in a tragic motorcycle accident. But I'll always be thankful for Alex for him saying to me, "Oh yeah, you should coach. So I got a hold of the commissioner. I I did coach for a few games for Roswell in 2024, but my mother-in-law took ill, and I had to come home. So last season I ended up teaming up with Todd Everleth, the manager of the North Platte '80s, who I had connected with during 2024 and introduced him to the league. He managed in North Platte, and I asked Todd if he could use a coach, and Todd invited me out to North Platte, Nebraska. And last summer, I was the bullpen coach. One of the hardest things I've ever done, if not the hardest, going from high school coaching to professional coaching at age 69, but somehow it was successful. I helped the pitchers. We ended up going to the the second round of the playoffs. We had a couple of guys called up to higher level leagues, and and it was a success. But but it was again one of the hardest things I've ever done, but at the same time, one of the most rewarding. Michael Hingson  57:04 That's pretty cool. You you did you did so much of that. So you also you've been coaching. So you've been coaching a fair amount over the last few years. You said I think at one point, you were the worst coach in 2025. Evan Katz  57:23 Oh right, not not the worst, close, the least qualified. Oh, the Michael Hingson  57:28 least qualified. Okay, right. Yeah, this is a good story. Evan Katz  57:31 So, so, so Todd and I, you know, Todd Everleth, we're driving his truck around the Midwest. I don't know, it's probably the second second or third road trip, but I'm I'm sitting there, and I'm really beginning to understand the credentials, my new Todd's credentials, and the credentials of the other coaches in in in the Pecos League, which, as I mentioned, is the lowest level of independent baseball. It's not connected to Major League Baseball, and I'm thinking to myself, there's got to be 1000s and 1000s of coaches in professional baseball, major leagues, minor leagues, other independent leagues. Here I am. I'm a coach in the Pecos League. I I have three years of high school coaching experience. I have got to be the least qualified coach in professional baseball. So I said, Todd, I think I'm the least qualified coach in professional baseball, and he he got a real kick out of that. Michael Hingson  58:30 Well, so the real question is, what's going to happen this year? What are you doing now? Evan Katz  58:35 Well, this year, you know, I I am definitely retiring from coaching, as I mentioned, you know, at my age, 69, coaching in professional baseball, you know, your your days start early. They go till late at night. You're traveling a lot in the Pecos League. We drove our own cars, so we drove over 7000 miles last summer. Michael Hingson  58:57 Wow! Evan Katz  58:57 And that that was on top of driving out to Nebraska and coming home, so over 10,000 miles over the course of the summer, way way too demanding. So, but what I'm what I'm doing, Michael, is I think that that I really have some some lessons to share and some experiences to share. And as I as I joked with Todd and some of the other players, the the pitchers out in the bullpen. We were sitting out in the bullpen one night, and the pitchers knew that I wasn't didn't have a lot of experience. And once we all got used to each other, we had a really good time out there. And I'd said to them, I said, I think I'm going to write a book, and the book is going to be the least qualified coach in professional baseball, a survival guide, basically telling the story of how somebody with the least credentials of all the professional coaches was able to figure out how to cope with the challenges and ultimately support the pitching staff. And contribute to the teams going 27 wins and 21 losses, making it the second round of the playoffs, and having players called up to higher level leagues. I think there's some lessons there to share to inspire other people, and so that that's my plan. I'm hoping to do a little bit of motivational speaking. I'm planning to write a book and tell the story of the least qualified coach in professional baseball. Michael Hingson  1:00:28 But you brought a lot of life experience to coaching. Evan Katz  1:00:31 Absolutely, absolutely. I mean, this is one of the things I had to figure out. I knew my technical background was limited, so I had to figure out how can I support these players, how can I be available, and I figured out where to where to sit in the bullpen, so I could listen to their conversations and chime in when needed, and still see what's going on in the game, where to where to be in the outfield during batting practice to have casual conversations, and then I also-I don't think I mentioned this earlier-I had a podcast that I did, and so the podcast, which had a weekly episode and a guest from the Pecos League, I was always looking for stories from the team to interject into the podcast, and that was a great conversation starter. I also took a lot of pictures of the players, candid shots that they would never have been able to take on their own, and then also provide some baseball lessons along the way. You know, there was one pitcher who was very dissatisfied with his outing one night. He said, "I didn't, I don't, I didn't strike out as many guys as I wanted, or I gave up too many runs. And I said, "You left the game when we were ahead here in the Pecos League, where the team score a lot of runs. It's not the absolute results; it's the relative results. Yeah, you did your job. You left the game with the '80s in the lead, and you did great. So I figured out ways to support these guys because they had their own challenges, being away from college, being away from home. Try to figure out how I could support them to bring out their best. Michael Hingson  1:02:12 What a great story, and what a a great insightful thing you said to that pitcher. Well, if people want to reach out to you, how can they do that? Evan Katz  1:02:21 Well, I have a website called Baseball by the Sea Media, where I have some of my writing that I talked about. I've done some baseball biographies and some baseball game stories and some exclusive stories. Baseball by the Sea Media. I'm also on LinkedIn. Those are probably the two easiest ways to find me. Michael Hingson  1:02:44 How do they find you on LinkedIn? Evan Katz  1:02:46 Evan Katz, just I don't think least qualified as a search parameter on LinkedIn. No, it's probably blocked. So, Michael Hingson  1:02:55 so Evan Katz is spelled Evan Katz  1:02:57 E V A N K A T Z. Michael Hingson  1:03:00 So there you go. Well, I want to tell you that when that book comes out, we have to to do another one of these because I want to really have a chance to feature the book and all that. So keep us posted. Evan Katz  1:03:13 Absolutely, I'm I'm I'm looking forward to to working on it, Michael. And I appreciate you having me on today. Michael Hingson  1:03:18 Well, I want to thank you, and I want to thank all of you for watching and listening, and I'd love to hear from you. Feel free to email me at speaker at michaelhinkson m i c h a e l h i n g s o n.com. Love it if you'd give us a five star rating, but more important than a rating, please give us a great review. Review the podcast and say nice things about Evan. That's a that's a beautiful thing to do. If anyone knows anyone who ought to be a guest on our podcast, Evan, including you, feel free to introduce us. We're always looking for people to come on and tell their stories. But for now, I want to thank you for being here, and I want to thank you for spending an hour with us and and making it a very enjoyable and an unstoppable day. Evan Katz  1:04:03 Absolutely, Michael, it's my pleasure. Michael Hingson  1:04:08 Thank you for being here with me on Unstoppable Mindset. I hope today's conversation left you with a fresh perspective, a new insight, or at least something worth thinking about. If you're ready to go deeper into the ideas that shape how we see ourselves and others, I have a free gift for you. Head over to michaelhingson.com and download my free ebook, Blinded by Fear. 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Drama and Science Fiction on a SundayFirst, a look at the events of the day.Then, The Screen Guild Players, originally broadcast  August 23, 1943, 76 years ago, Skylark starring Ginger Rogers.  A dissatisfied wife decides to divorce her successful but workaholic advertising executive husband, only to find herself torn between him and a charming bohemian lawyer.  Claudette Colbert starred in the 1941 motion picture.  Followed by Escape, originally broadcast August 23, 1953, 73 years ago, The Man From Tomorrow starring Lawrence Dobkin.  A former fighter pilot is trained to develop his five senses beyond those of ordinary men...and to possibly develop a sixth sense! This is a great show.  Hear an even better version of this script on the September 1 episode of Suspense that stars Frank and Joan Lovejoy.  (Hint- it will be on our upcoming September 1 Best of Classic Radio Theater.)Then, Dimension X, originally broadcast August 23, 1951, 75 years ago.  The Elixir Of Life can cure any disease and keep you alive for one hundred years. A private investigator has to discover whether it's the real McCoy, or a deadly poison!Followed by 2000 Plus, originally broadcast August 23, 1950, 76 years ago,  The Flying Saucers.  In the year 2012, a second "Zeus" rocket is about to be launched from White Sands. The saucers have been visiting for the last three months and are considered a potential threat. Finally, Claudia, originally broadcast August 23, 1948, 78 years ago, An Evening at the Summer Theatre.  Kathryn Bard and Paul Crabtree star. Thanks to Debbie B. for supporting our podcast by using the Buy Me a Coffee function at http://classicradio.streamIf you like what we do here, visit our friend Jay at http://radio.macinmind.com for great old-time radio shows 24 hours a day

In this packed hour, Walter and his callers dive into the deep end of the world's most gripping secrets, starting with the controversial collapse of World Trade Center Building 7 on 9/11 and leading to a covert White House-authorized military operation at White Sands using high-pulse microwave weapons to down alien UAPs. The rabbit hole goes even deeper as they question who was actually running the government during the Biden administration, expose the Rockefeller-era origins of the public school system, and chat with a part-time Dollar Tree cashier about the economics of SNAP cards and cheap greeting cards. Plus, hear about a trucker's close encounter with Cicero police and the mystery of Dollar Tree dog chews made from water buffalo lungs imported from India.

FULL SHOW- Buckle up for a live, late-night ride through America's weirdest corners with Walter Sterling on the biggest all-night show in American radio. In this jam-packed episode, investigative journalist Ross Coulthart reveals a covert US military program to down and retrieve alien craft at White Sands, while UFO expert Dave Scott flags a bizarre military flight turnaround over Antarctica due to "hazardous space activity" Plus, Walter breaks down the tragic demise of actress Hayden Panettiere, why the women of Parma, Ohio distrusted Hillary Clinton, a collegiate cocaine ring run out of fake Penn State fraternities and a retired truck driver's near-fatal encounter with a tranquilized Florida horse.

Andy and Pavel break down Ross Coulthart's extraordinary new reporting on Skywatcher and what may have happened after the public-facing project went quiet.Ross claims individuals and techniques connected to Skywatcher have effectively been taken “in-house”, with a covert US government operation at White Sands allegedly using the same Dog Whistle technology and psionic methods to summon, detect and even attempt to bring down UAP. He further claims the operation was personally authorised by President Trump and designed to circumvent the alleged Legacy Program.We get into the El Paso shutdown, White Sands, the alleged use of directed-energy weapons, questions over civilian aircraft, Garry Nolan's involvement, whether Ross's sources can be trusted, and the uncomfortable ethics of deliberately summoning something only to shoot at it.Plus, TIME Magazine asks why America is finally taking extraterrestrials seriously, as the UFO subject continues its move into mainstream scientific and political discussion.

Anne and Alexis finish up the conversation on White Sands and then dive into a Cosmere conversation!

In Episode 14 of the Noss Gold Treasure, the investigation shifts to the early 1970s as President Richard Nixon positions himself to gain access to the vast fortune hidden inside Victorio Peak. The episode explores a pivotal July 6, 1970 meeting at Nixon's Western White House in San Clemente, California, where geologist Keith Alexander—representing a coalition of treasure hunters known as the "Filthy 50"—met with Nixon and Domestic Affairs Advisor John Ehrlichman. Alexander revealed secret knowledge of 742 gold bars weighing 40 to 50 pounds each (totaling over 3 million troy ounces) stockpiled at White Sands, seeking executive immunity and an official agreement to monetize the gold through the U.S. Mint.Three days after the San Clemente meeting, Ehrlichman dispatched a personal memorandum to Treasury Secretary David M. Kennedy inquiring how the group could legally recover and sell the treasure. On July 17, 1970, Secretary Kennedy responded with an accommodating roadmap, noting that no federal license was required to search for or possess buried treasure, while proposing a 50/50 split with the government based on the prior Fort Huachuca precedent. However, when Kennedy proved too rigid regarding strict regulatory compliance, Nixon replaced him on February 11, 1971, with former Texas Governor John Connally—a close associate of Lyndon B. Johnson and an alleged co-incorporator of the LaRue Corporation, an entity formed in 1967 to manage and launder Victorio Peak gold proceeds.The episode then unpacks one of the most consequential economic maneuvers in modern American history: Nixon's live televised address on Sunday, August 15, 1971, closing the gold window and ending the direct convertibility of U.S. dollars into gold. By dismantling the Bretton Woods monetary system, Nixon eliminated international audits and physical reserve accountability, effectively creating a systemic blind spot where missing national reserves or illicitly extracted military gold could no longer be tracked or audited.Connecting internal White House memorandums, Treasury Department correspondence, corporate records, and Watergate-era disclosures, Episode 14 details how Nixon installed key gatekeepers and altered global monetary policy to set the stage for the massive thefts that followed. From San Clemente to the Oval Office, this episode exposes how presidential authority and monetary policy intersected with the covert plundering of America's most controversial treasure. Join us for this latest episode as we tell the story so well documented by  author John Clarence.

In Episode 13 of the Noss Gold Treasure, we delve into one of the most audacious gold smuggling operations in modern history: the post-presidential pipeline orchestrated under Lyndon B. Johnson between 1969 and 1970. Drawing on direct video interviews with vintage WWII B-24 Liberator pilot Fern Hamill, this episode exposes how 130 tons of ancient gold bars stolen from Victorio Peak were covertly transported out of the United States. Weekly shuttle runs using official U.S. government vehicles—bearing White Sands Missile Range stickers on their windshields—hauled 500 to 800 pounds of gold per week directly across the Mexican border to General Roberto Fierro Villalobos International Airport in Chihuahua City.At the Chihuahua City airport, crew member Arturo weighed each gold bar on the tarmac before loading it directly into the bomb bay racks of the B-24 bomber under 24-hour Mexican military guard. To conceal the massive four-engine bomber from aerial observation when it was not flying, LBJ utilized Department of Defense resources to construct a private airstrip and a massive Quonset hangar 114 miles south at his 108,724-acre Las Pampas Ranch. This dual-location infrastructure provided the perfect covert staging network, allowing the crew to execute month-long loading cycles for 13 separate ten-ton missions.The episode breaks down the long flight paths along the Pacific corridor to refineries in Vancouver, Canada, where 11 flights successfully delivered 110 tons of gold into international channels. However, the operation was not without catastrophic failures: during the 7th and 9th flights, severe engine failures forced Hamill and Arturo to trip the bomb bay doors, ditching 20 tons of gold into the Pacific Ocean off the coast near Carmel, California.Connecting direct video testimony from pilot Fern Hamill, tape recordings of LBJ, and revelations from Bill Gulley's White House exposé Breaking Cover, Episode 13 pulls back the curtain on high-level executive and military corruption. Featuring operational oversight from former White Sands commander Major General John Shinkle and high-ranking military handlers, this episode demonstrates how official government vehicles, defense resources, and presidential authority were leveraged to pull off what Hamill called the world's biggest gold heist.

This week on the pod, Seth and Josh welcome Ana Gasteyer! Ana talks about growing up in Washington, D.C., and the road trips and family adventures that shaped her childhood. She shares stories about cross-country drives in a VW Bug, visits to her aunts' Nebraska farm, trips to national parks, and traveling with her own family through New Mexico and West Texas. Plus, Ana discusses her current Broadway run in the Tony-nominated musical Shmigadoon! Watch this episode on the Family Trips YouTube or Spotify, or listen wherever you get your podcasts! Watch more Family Trips episodes: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLlqYOfxU_jQem4_NRJPM8_wLBrEEQ17B6 ------------------------- 00:00 Introduction with Seth Meyers and Josh Meyers 05:30 Guest: Ana Gasteyer talks Broadway Mishap: Fainting in Shmigadoon 14:18 Growing Up Three Blocks from the Capitol 17:11 Ulysses' High-Altitude Summer in a Senior Community 25:56 Academic Brother, Dog-Breeding Mom & Gassy Whippet 27:32 VW Bug Road Trips, Spinster Aunts & Nebraska Farm Life 31:56 Great American National Parks & Vista Point Parents 34:35 Clusterfunk Christmas & Holiday Movie Parodies 34:57 Sugar & Booze: Holiday Albums, Live Shows & Symphonies 39:16 New Mexico Field Trips: Caverns, White Sands & Marfa 52:06 Costco Christmas Houses, Puzzles & Game Nights 56:11 Skiing Comeback in Big Sky & Being a Vista Point Family 1:04:40 Dream Bike Trips & Selling Families on DC ------------------------- Support our sponsors: The Breadwinner From Sony Pictures Home Entertainment The Breadwinner. Straight from theaters, the must-see comedy of the summer is now available to watch at home on digital — to enjoy again and again.Grab your family and don't miss the comedy everyone is loving, with an 86% audience score on Rotten Tomatoes. Get it now on Prime Video, Apple TV, or Fandango at Home. Rated PG. First Leaf Stop settling for wines that don't quite hit the mark. Head to https://TryFirstleaf.com/trips to sign up and you'll get fifty percent off your first box PLUS free shipping for an entire year. Hero Bread Hero Bread is offering 10% off your order. Go to ⁠https://hero.co and use code TRIPS at checkout. ------------------------- Family Trips is produced by Rabbit Grin Productions. Theme song written and performed by Jeff Tweedy. ------------------------- About the Show: Lifelong brothers Seth Meyers and Josh Meyers ask guests to relive childhood memories, unforgettable family trips, and other disasters! New Episodes of Family Trips with the Meyers Brothers are available every Tuesday. ------------------------- Executive Producers: Rob Holysz, Jeph Porter, Natalie Holysz Creative Producer: Sam Skelton Coordinating Producer: Derek Johnson Video Editor: Josh Windisch Mix & Master: Josh Windisch Episode Artwork: Analise Jorgensen #familytrips #sethmeyers #joshmeyers Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In the summer of 1976, an Illinois oilman named Ed Atkins received a tape containing an explosive conversation: former President Lyndon B. Johnson admitting to moving stolen gold from White Sands Missile Range to his ranch in Mexico. Discussing the heist with Fred Drolte, LBJ explicitly detailed using a big plane—later identified as a B-24 Liberator bomber—to transport the gold, cementing the tape as a "smoking gun" of presidential theft. However, after Atkins handed the tape to his lawyer, Daryl Holmes, for safekeeping, Holmes died under mysterious circumstances in 1977. Following his death, the LBJ tape and Atkins' White Sands files were the only items stolen from the lawyer's office.This episode begins to dive deep into the origins of these presidential gold heists, proving the corruption began well before the 1973 Nixon theft. We trace the pattern back to the early 1960s at Fort Huachuca in Arizona, where President John F. Kennedy authorized $10,000 in taxpayer money to fund a treasure excavation. When Ed Atkins and his son John finally gained access to dig at the base years later, they found nothing. A base security guard later revealed the shocking truth: the military had previously cordoned off the area and extracted the gold using military trucks and helicopters.At the center of the Fort Huachuca extraction was Bill Shriver, a civilian operative working under military and CIA supervision. Schriever secretly extracted an estimated 3.5 million troy ounces of gold from Fort Huachuca long before civilian treasure hunters were granted permission to dig, laundering the proceeds through a company called Pyramid Enterprises. In a sworn 1981 affidavit, Schriever confessed that a staggering 11 million troy ounces of gold were taken from Fort Huachuca and Victoria Peak combined, exclusively using military aircraft.The pursuit of this truth came with a deadly price. Less than a year after giving his sworn testimony, Bill Shriver was beaten to death in Los Angeles. Ed Atkins himself had been warned that his entire family would be killed if he didn't stop investigating White Sands, and he later died in 1979 under circumstances a CIA operative suspected was murder. Tune in to uncover how Fort Huachuca established the dark, deadly template for presidential treasure theft that ultimately paved the way for the Victoria Peak heist

Danny Sheehan is one of the most consequential public interest attorneys of the last century. His cases include the Pentagon Papers, Watergate, the Karen Silkwood case, the Iran-Contra investigation, and decades of work at the intersection of government secrecy and the public's right to know. He is co-founder of the Romero Institute and the New Paradigm Institute, and a leading voice in the push for congressional UAP disclosure. Today, he stands at the center of what may be the most consequential question humanity has ever faced: the implications of a potential extraterrestrial or extradimensional non-human presence here on Earth. Having spent over 50 years litigating against government secrecy and winning, in this discussion, Danny connects the JFK assassination, the Vatican's role in the 1933 Italy UFO crash, the founding of the CIA, and the architecture of Brown Brothers Harriman to the UFO cover-up we're living through today, and lays out the concrete constitutional path to disclosure. Big thanks to Jamie Billings for helping make this interview happen, and to Danny and his wife for their time and generosity. The New Paradigm Institute, founded by acclaimed civil rights and Constitutional attorney Danny Sheehan, is dedicated to advocating for the public release of information held by the government surrounding the issue of Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), or what was commonly known as Unidentified Flying Objects (UFOs). For more information, visit http://newparadigminstitute.org. Stream on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/14ioP0zfFczK8hKPsDUmko?si=cff351ada3944a9a Want more? Join the Frightday Society, at http://thefrightdaysociety.org As a Society Member, you'll have access to all Screamium content (Behind the Screams, It's Been a Weird Week, A Conversation With..., Toast to Toast PM with Wine Kelly, Cinema Autopsy, the Writers' Room, bonus episodes of Captain Kelly's Cryptids & Conspiracies, Byron's Serial Corner, and so much more! 00:00 Intro 00:30 Welcome and guest introduction 02:33 Reaction to WAR.gov/UFO and Pete Hegseth's framing 04:43 Danny's faith in the American people 07:06 JFK and Khrushchev's secret disarmament letters after the Cuban Missile Crisis 09:23 Why the assassination happened and its fallout 11:44 The Gulf of Tonkin lie and the collapse of trust in government 14:07 Coming to grips with UAP reality and the national security state 16:23 1968 vs. today: has Trump set disclosure back? 18:47 Why the world's religious communities may lead reform, not governments 21:05 Jesus, telepathy, and the evolution of human consciousness 23:23 Why the Vatican has withheld information, and why the Jesuit order was founded to reform the Church 25:48 Pope Pius XII and the 1933 UFO crash in Italy 28:11 The "Magenta" case and what Italy/Germany did with the craft in WWII 30:37 1945: Roswell, Aztec, White Sands, and the UAP Disclosure Act of 2023 32:57 Roots of the national security state: the U.S. invasion of Russia in 1917 35:10 Brown Brothers Harriman, the Dulles brothers, and the Treaty of Versailles 37:28 George Herbert Walker, Union Banking Corp, and financing the Third Reich 39:28 Trump's $1.5 trillion nuclear modernization plan and why UFOs are watching 41:42 Who are "they"? On multiple species and the unknown galactic order 43:50 Congress's constitutional authority over classification (Youngstown Sheet & Tube v. Sawyer) 46:12 A message to young people and why participation matters 48:34 How lawmakers respond to pressure, and the strategy for the 2026 midterms 53:10 Recapping the Contact in the Desert panel: Jacques Vallée, Tim Gallaudet, Eric Davis, and the question nobody would answer 57:42 What first convinced Danny this was real 59:49 Deathbed testimonies and how a trial lawyer evaluates truth 1:02:11 Danny's real concern: not fear of ET, but fear of losing ourselves to them 1:04:38 Archival fieldwork: the Army War College, Wild Bill Donovan, and the McGregor Project 1:09:24 Who to trust in the UFO community: Eric Burlison, Tim Burchett, and others 1:11:46 Hope for 2026 and beyond: decent people in Congress and a path forward 1:14:07 Closing thoughts and how to get involved You'll also be part of our interactive community dedicated to the advancement of horror, hauntings, cryptids, conspiracies, aliens, and true crime. All things frightening. Keep our mini-fridges full of blood...I mean...not blood...normal things that people drink...by going to http://shop.frightday.com  Theme music by Yawns Produced by Byron McKoy Follow us in the shadows at the following places: @VISITORSshow  @byronmckoy @kellyfrightday @frightday  This is an Audio Wool Original. #UAP #UFO #Disclosure #DannySheehan #ContactInTheDesert #VISITORS #PentagonPapers #NationalSecurity

Hoy nos adentramos en el Parque Nacional White Sands para explorar el campo de dunas de yeso más extenso del mundo, un paisaje deslumbrante situado en la Cuenca de Tularosa, al sur de Nuevo México.Ya somos más de un millón de reproducciones en esta aventura y hemos superado los 1.300 episodios. Este podcast es tuyo y mío; gracias por hacerlo posible.

Alexis, Anne, and Dallas sit down to discuss Brandon Sanderson's graphic novel White Sands

Coillte says it's liaising with the gardaí in relation to unauthorised camping at an East Clare beauty spot. The semi-state forestry body has confirmed camping isn't permitted in the vicinity of the Cahermurphy Loop and the White Sands on the banks of Lough Graney in Flagmount. It says it's aware of groups illegally camping at the location and says it will "continue to liaise closely with gardaí to address any breaches of Coillte bylaws". Local Fianna Fáil Councillor Pat Hayes believes it's a potential fire risk.

On this episode of Expanded Perspectives, the guys dive headfirst into a collection of strange encounters that blur the lines between folklore, the paranormal, and the truly unexplained.A witness near Big Bear Lake, California reports a terrifying encounter with a pale, four-legged humanoid that sprinted up a tree and leaped effortlessly through the treetops. In Tennessee, a hiker experiences what feels like an invisible shove while passing a historic cemetery, raising questions about whether the dead were offended by a careless joke. Another listener recounts witnessing six glittering, DNA-like spirals hovering above a freshly plowed field, accompanied by an unsettling bout of missing time.The strangeness continues with a report of a twelve-foot-tall "walking tree" crossing a northern Minnesota wetland, an encounter later connected to Ojibwe traditions describing spirit guardians of the forest. A childhood sighting of a shimmering, mirage-like humanoid leaves one listener wondering if they encountered a real-life Glimmer Man. Then, a Texas family shares a multi-generational mystery involving alien visitors, missing time near White Sands, cattle mutilations, and an unusual Air Force intelligence-testing program.Finally, a late-night commuter in rural Southern California comes face-to-face with a towering, stilt-legged "Not Deer" whose unnatural movements and monstrous proportions leave a lasting impression.From spectral encounters and strange entities to lost time, living trees, and impossible creatures, this episode is packed with the kind of listener experiences that keep us questioning what may be lurking just beyond the edge of our understanding.All of this and more on this installment of Expanded Perspectives!Sponsors:IQBAR: Right now, IQBAR is offering our special podcast listeners 20% off all IQBAR products, plus get FREE shipping. To get your 20% off, text EXPANDED to 64,000. Message and data rates may apply. See terms for details.Show Notes:Glimmer Man Book: Cloaked Beings That Move Among UsWant to Share Your Story? Email: expandedperspectives@yahoo.com Hotline: 888-393-2783 Want More Expanded Perspectives? If you want more Expanded Perspectives and help out the show, then join our Patreon. Just click this link or download the Patreon App and search Expanded Perspectives Elite Do you want to give the gift of Expanded Perspectives Elite? Just click this link or go to patreon.com/expandedperspectiveselite/gift

In this highly anticipated first episode of our new series, we hit pause on the Noss/Victorio Peak legal battles (episodes you have NOT heard yet)  to ask a chilling question: What if some portion of the gold hidden inside that New Mexico mountain has a completely different, far darker origin? What if the mysterious bars found at Victorio Peak weren't Spanish colonial gold or Apache plunder, but stolen wealth from the ruins of the Third Reich?To understand this mind-bending possibility, we travel back to the dying days of World War II in Germany. Following the devastating Allied bombing of the Reichsbank in Berlin in February 1945, the Nazis frantically moved their remaining wealth—including the horrifying "Melmer" deliveries made up of property and dental gold systematically stripped from Holocaust victims—to a salt mine in the village of Merkers. There, 2,100 feet underground behind a three-foot-thick brick wall and a steel bank door, advancing American forces would soon discover over 8,198 bars of gold bullion, billions in currency, and priceless works of art stacked knee-high in the dark tunnels.But how does the greatest treasure discovery of World War II connect to the American Southwest? We explore the deeply secretive post-war era, drawing parallels to Operation Paperclip, which quietly moved German rocket scientists and V-2 equipment to the highly classified White Sands Missile Range in New Mexico—the exact location of Victorio Peak. As we examine the documented anomalies and missing records in the official accounting of the Merkers treasure, we lay out the chilling circumstantial case that a portion of this unimaginable wealth may have secretly arrived in the dead of night at White Sands sometime between 1945 and the early 1960's. Join us as we journey into the pitch-black tunnels of the Merkers mine to trace the official—and unofficial—path of the Nazi gold. Listen to our teaser posted just prior to Episode 1 in order to gain a better understanding of how this story begins to fit into the bigger picture of what we are about to bring to you at JFK The Enduring Secret

In the thrilling finale of our Merkers Mine series, we confront the uncomfortable arithmetic of the Third Reich's stolen wealth. While the Allies recovered an astonishing 250 tons of gold at Merkers, hundreds of millions of dollars in looted Nazi gold remain completely unaccounted for to this day. Could a portion of this missing fortune have ended up deep inside a desert mountain in southern New Mexico?. To answer this, we explore the highly secretive post-war world of Operation Paperclip, which brought former Nazi rocket scientists and hundreds of train cars filled with V2 rocket components from the exact same German region as the Merkers mine directly to the White Sands Missile Range.This massive, chaotic logistical operation may have provided the perfect Trojan horse to smuggle stolen wealth into the United States. We delve into the tantalizing, controversial theory that diverted Nazi bullion was shipped alongside the rocket parts, meticulously concealed in crates falsely labeled as Volkswagen engines that were calibrated to match the exact weight of a real engine. The destination for these mysterious crates was White Sands—the home of Victorio Peak, a mountain already famous for a legendary Spanish gold discovery made by Doc Noss years earlier.The historical anomalies surrounding this peak are impossible to ignore. When two airmen secretly entered Victorio Peak in 1958, they didn't describe finding crude, centuries-old Spanish colonial ingots; they reported seeing modern, smelted, brick-shaped gold bullion stacked in orderly, military-style pyramids. Tying this massive web together is a chilling final revelation: Leland Howard, the powerful U.S. Treasury official sent to Frankfurt to oversee the captured Merkers gold in 1945, is the exact same man who later orchestrated the military's top-secret excavations and the suppression of the Noss family claims at Victorio Peak. The prelude is now complete. Join us as we close the book on the Merkers Mine and prepare to step fully into the enduring mystery of the Noss Gold.

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A New Mexico missile chief and his secretary discover the flying saucers over White Sands aren't curious neighbors — they're a recall notice from something that has been parked on the dark side of the moon for three thousand years, and it has come for them.Look for this podcast on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, iHeart Radio, Amazon Music, Pandora, TuneIn Radio, and other podcast apps. Get a list of free listening apps here: https://weirddarkness.tiny.us/OTRCHAPTERS & TIME STAMPS (All Times Approximate)…00:00:00.000 = Show Open00:01:30.028 = CBS Radio Mystery Theater, “The Sea Nymph” (October 05, 1977) ***WD00:45:37.293 = Tales Of The Frightened, “Dr. Harvey Cushing” (1957) ***WD00:49:57.029 = The Creaking Door, “Imposter” (July 20, 1964) ***WD01:16:50.797 = The Saint, “Missing Angel” (July 08, 1951) ***WD01:45:36.247 = Theater Five, “A Brand New Life” (November 12, 1964) ***WD02:05:44.156 = 2000 Plus, “Flying Saucers” (August 23, 1950) ***WD02:34:51.114 = The Unexpected, “Counterfeit” (October 10, 1948) ***WD02:46:34.747 = Unsolved Mysteries, “The Witch Doctor” (1936) ***WD03:01:30.997 = Dark Venture, “Chase” (August 03, 1946) ***WD (LQ)03:29:50.533 = Weird Circle, “Goblet” (April 01, 1945)03:57:06.111 = The Whistler, “Murder On Paper” (January 29, 1945) ***WD04:28:30.820 = Witch's Tale, “Boa Goddess” (May 21, 1931) ***WD (LQ)04:53:37.621 = Show Close(ADU) = Air Date Unknown(LQ) = Low Quality***WD = Remastered, edited, or cleaned up by Weird Darkness to make the episode more listenable. Audio may not be pristine, but it will be better than the original file which may have been unusable or more difficult to hear without editing.CUSTOM WEBPAGE: https://weirddarkness.com/WDRR0652

In this Trail Mix Episode Dusty and Mike talk about the evolution of White Sands National Park and the flora and fauna found there. For more of our episodes on hikes in this and other National Parks, click here. To browse through our entire Library of hiking trail episodes, Trail Mix episodes, interviews, and more, visit our Episode Finder.Instagram: @GazeAtTheNationalParksFacebook: Gaze at the National Parks#gazeatthenationalparks#hikeearlyhikeoften#adventureisoutthereHosted by Dustin Ballard and Michael RyanEpisode Editing by Dustin Ballard and Michael RyanOriginal Artwork by Michael RyanOriginal Music by Dave Seamon and Mariella KlingerMusic Producer: Skyler FortgangCheck out Aeropress and use my code GAZE for a great deal: https://aeropress.com. And go to MoonTravelGuides.com to get your Moon Travel Guide today! Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands

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Hey, welcome once again to Living Large Theater Podcast with Gary Rodriguez and Billy Santiago and Super producer Noe Ayala. On today's show U.S Veterans/ Owners of White Sands Marina Arnold Flores and Corina Flores talk about upcoming events. Fire us an email: thelivinglargetheater@gmail.com White Sands Marina Phone 956-299-8993Address: 418 TX-100, Port lsabel, TX 78578WSINNANDSUITES.COM

From a 150-year-old alcohol bottle unearthed in Utah—where the “real treasure” might be what it once tasted like—to footprints in White Sands New Mexico which are more than 20,000 years old, this episode spans the surprisingly fragile side of archaeology. We also dig into a discovery being called the oldest clothing in human history, and what it can (and can't) tell us about early humans, preservation, and the everyday technologies that rarely survive. Links Segment 1 150-Year-Old Alcohol Bottle Found in Utah. Here's What the ‘Real Treasure' Tasted Like Segment 2 Archaeologists find footprints that rewrite the timeline of humans in the Americas Paleolake geochronology supports Last Glacial Maximum (LGM) age for human tracks at White Sands, New Mexico (Science Advances) Segment 3 Complex perishable technologies from the North American Great Basin reveal specialized Late Pleistocene adaptations Scientists Discovered the Oldest Clothing in Human History Contact Chris Webster chris@archaeologypodcastnetwork.com Rachel Roden rachel@unraveleddesigns.com RachelUnraveled (Instagram) ArchPodNet APN Website: https://www.archpodnet.com APN Discord: https://discord.com/invite/CWBhb2T2ed APN on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/archpodnet APN on Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/archpodnet APN on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/archpodnet APN Shop Affiliates Motion Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

From a 150-year-old alcohol bottle unearthed in Utah—where the “real treasure” might be what it once tasted like—to footprints in White Sands New Mexico which are more than 20,000 years old, this episode spans the surprisingly fragile side of archaeology. We also dig into a discovery being called the oldest clothing in human history, and what it can (and can't) tell us about early humans, preservation, and the everyday technologies that rarely survive. Links Segment 1 150-Year-Old Alcohol Bottle Found in Utah. Here's What the ‘Real Treasure' Tasted Like Segment 2 Archaeologists find footprints that rewrite the timeline of humans in the Americas Paleolake geochronology supports Last Glacial Maximum (LGM) age for human tracks at White Sands, New Mexico (Science Advances) Segment 3 Complex perishable technologies from the North American Great Basin reveal specialized Late Pleistocene adaptations Scientists Discovered the Oldest Clothing in Human History Contact Chris Webster chris@archaeologypodcastnetwork.com Rachel Roden rachel@unraveleddesigns.com RachelUnraveled (Instagram) ArchPodNet APN Website: https://www.archpodnet.com APN Discord: https://discord.com/invite/CWBhb2T2ed APN on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/archpodnet APN on Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/archpodnet APN on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/archpodnet APN Shop Affiliates Motion Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Every year, new archaeological discoveries claim to rewrite what we think we knew about the ancient Americas, but how much can we trust the initial reports we see? Professor Shane Miller, now of the University of Alabama, joins me again to place the White Sands footprints and other key sites in their proper context.Patrick launched a brand-new history show! It's called Past Lives, and every episode explores the life of a real person who lived in the past. Subscribe now: https://bit.ly/PWPLA And don't forget, you can still Get The Verge: Reformation, Renaissance, and Forty Years that Shook the World in hardcopy, ebook, or audiobook (read by Patrick) here: https://bit.ly/PWverge.Listen to new episodes 1 week early, to exclusive seasons 1 and 2, and to all episodes ad free with Wondery+. Join Wondery+ for exclusives, binges, early access, and ad free listening. Available in the Wondery App https://wondery.app.link/tidesofhistoryBe the first to know about Wondery's newest podcasts, curated recommendations, and more! Sign up now at https://wondery.fm/wonderynewsletterSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

What happens when the thing you love — the thing that once felt energizing and aligned — starts to feel heavy?   In this short but honest check-in, I'm opening up about the unplanned pause I took from Wild Women in Photography… and what it revealed about creative capacity, transitions, and trusting your own timing.   This isn't a full episode — it's a moment to talk openly about where I've been, what's been unfolding behind the scenes, and why I'm coming back with more clarity and intention than ever before.   If you've ever wrestled with your creative identity, felt stretched between roles, or needed permission to step back without guilt — this one's for you. Inside this update: Why I let the podcast go quiet — and how I'm okay with it now How I'm restructuring the show with creative seasons (and why that matters) What I've been building in my coaching business and creative work A peek into my latest zine and free workshops What you can expect in Season 2 — and when to listen Learn with Brie: 1:1 Mentoring for Photographers — Need help refining a project, shaping your portfolio, or deepening your creative direction? These sessions are tailored to support exactly where you are. Limited Edition Zine — Through My Eyes Vol. 1: Releasing Expectations is my spicy take on expectations, paired with images from White Sands. Moving special available while supplies last. Free Online Workshops — Join me for Inside the Studio, a series of photo conversations and creative learning sessions. Explore everything at wildwomanphotography.com/quicklinks  

SPONSORS: 1) PRIVACY: Get your $5 sign-ups bonus at https://privacy.com/Julian and protect your financial identity online with virtual cards. 2) GHOSTBED: During GhostBed's Holiday Sale, you can get 25% off sitewide for a limited time. Just go to http://GhostBed.com/julian and use promo code JULIAN at checkout (***TIMESTAMPS in description below) ~ Michael Button is a British ancient historian best known for his YouTube channel, which investigates mysteries in ancient civilizations and archaeology. MICHAEL's LINKS - YT: https://www.youtube.com/@MichaelButton1/posts - IG: https://www.instagram.com/michaelbuttonx/ - X: https://x.com/MichaelButtonX FOLLOW JULIAN DOREY INSTAGRAM (Podcast): https://www.instagram.com/juliandoreypodcast/ INSTAGRAM (Personal): https://www.instagram.com/julianddorey/ X: https://twitter.com/julianddorey JULIAN YT CHANNELS - SUBSCRIBE to Julian Dorey Clips YT: https://www.youtube.com/@juliandoreyclips - SUBSCRIBE to Julian Dorey Daily YT: https://www.youtube.com/@JulianDoreyDaily - SUBSCRIBE to Best of JDP: https://www.youtube.com/@bestofJDP ****TIMESTAMPS**** 00:00 – Intro 01:23 - Michael Origins, Ancient History, Jebel Irhoud, Million-Year Humanity 13:13 - Warped Time, Lost Technology, 300k-Year Minds, Cognitive Revolution 20:00 - Symbolic Intelligence, Shared Myths, Neanderthals, Denisovans 31:48 - Neanderthal Extinction, Interbreeding, Genetics 43:16 - Ancient History Mystery, Göbekli Tepe, Academic Limits 55:10 - Redefining Civilization, Agriculture Bias, Global Megastructures 01:05:15 - Evidence Thresholds, Rogan Breakthrough, Hancock Influence 01:13:05 - Amazon Mysteries, Lost South American Civilizations 01:27:20 - Oral History, Quipus, Clovis-First Theory Problems 01:38:25 - Bluefish Caves, White Sands, Suppressed Discoveries 01:50:22 - Hueyatlaco Suppression, Intelligence & History 02:03:29 - WWII Revisionism, Radar, Battle of Britain 02:13:20 - WWI Trauma, Pearl Harbor, Western Blind Spots 02:19:43 - Ancient Rome, Britain, Caesar, Empire Shift 02:33:49 - Egypt Labyrinth, Hawara, Blocked Data 02:43:41 - Giza, Water Erosion, Information Suppression 02:46:02 - Atlantis, Flood Myths, Richat Structure 03:01:07 - Michael's Work CREDITS: - Host, Editor & Producer: Julian Dorey - COO, Producer & Editor: Alessi Allaman - https://www.youtube.com/@UCyLKzv5fKxGmVQg3cMJJzyQ - In-Studio Producer: Joey Deef - https://www.instagram.com/joeydeef/ Julian Dorey Podcast Episode 367 - Michael Button Music by Artlist.io Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hey, welcome once again to Living Large Theater Podcast with Gary Rodriguez and Billy Santiago and Super producer Noe Ayala. On today's show U.S Veterans/ Owners of White Sands Marina Arnold Flores and Corina Flores talk about upcoming events. Fire us an email: thelivinglargetheater@gmail.com White Sands Marina Phone 956-299-8993 Address: 418 TX-100, Port Isabel, TX 78578 WSINNANDSUITES.COM

Ep 161: July 1947 UFO Crashes — First Link to Animal Mutilations? Linda is spending time with family this week.  Please enjoy this special rebroadcast and join Ian for a LIVE CHAT. News headlines: UK Daily Mail - Jan 26, 2024:  “What are they trying to tell us?  Internal report warns America is unequipped to defend itself from an ALIEN invasion” The Hill - Jan 30, 2024: “What has happened to the Pentagon's former UFO hunter?” NewsNation - Dec 13, 2023: “Schumer: Credible spruces say USP info kept from Congress” Leaked SOM1-01 manual - MAJESTIC-12 group special operations manual  - printed April 1954  - Bob & Ryan Wood collected “The Majestic Documents - Executive Correspondence” Top Secret document leaked from 1947  - “Interplanetary Phenomenon Unit”  - “recovery of fallen airborne objects in the state of New Mexico”  - “two crash sites located near the White Sands proving ground” Discussion with Ryan Wood - CEO of Electric Fusion systems Inc.  - “the most disturbing aspect…was other bodies found not far from LZ-1 that looked like they had been dissected”  - “our country has played host to beings from another planet”  - “as to the bodies recovered from LZ-2…none of the crew members survived”   === Books mentioned: Majic Eyes Only  By Ryan Wood https://www.amazon.com/Majic-Eyes-Only-Encounters-Extraterrestrial/dp/0977205940/ The AI Ufologist  By Ryan Wood https://www.amazon.com/AI-Ufologist-Answering-Questions-Ufology/dp/0977205932/ Encyclopedia of Flying Saucers By Ryan Wood https://www.amazon.com/Encyclopaedia-Flying-Saucers-Interpretive-Material/dp/0977205967 The Day After Roswell By Col. Philip J, Corso (Ret.) https://www.amazon.com/Day-After-Roswell-William-Birnes-ebook/dp/B000FBJHT4 ==== Websites: www.majiceyesonly.com www.majesticdocuments.com www.specialoperationsmanual.com     Key documents: IPU - https://majesticdocuments.com/pdf/ipu_report.pdf SOM1-01 - https://majesticdocuments.com/pdf/som101_part1.pdf Einstein Oppenheimer - https://majesticdocuments.com/pdf/oppenheimer_einstein.pdf ===   ==== Upcoming Appearances: Conscious Life Expo 2026 February 20th-23rd, 2026 https://consciouslifeexpo.com/linda-moulton-howe-2026/?ref=njyynty   ====   #LindaMoultonHowe #Earthfiles — For more incredible science stories, Real X-Files, environmental stories and so much more. Please visit my site https://www.earthfiles.com — Be sure to subscribe to this Earthfiles Channel the official channel for Linda Moulton Howe https://www.youtube.com/Earthfiles. — To stay up to date on everything Earthfiles, follow me on FaceBook@EarthfilesNews and Twitter @Earthfiles.  To purchase books and merchandise from Linda Moulton Howe, be sure to only shop at my official Earthfiles store at https://www.earthfiles.com/earthfiles-shop/ — Countdown Clock Piano Music:  Ashot Danielyan, Composer:  https://www.pond5.com/stock-music/100990900/emotional-piano-melancholic-drama.html

My guest on this episode is Jeff Raedle from Sport Five, the organization behind the new White Sands Men's Golf Invitational. Some of the best amateurs in the world will be heading to The Bahamas in December to compete in paradise. Jeff shares all of the details on what we can expect! White Sands Bahamas Men's Invitational - Official WebsiteThe Back of the Range - All Access Subscribe to The Back of the Range Subscribe in Apple Podcasts and SPOTIFY!Also Subscribe in YouTube,   Google Play , Overcast, Stitcher  Follow on Social Media! Email us:   ben@thebackoftherange.comWebsite: www.thebackoftherange.com  Voice Work by Mitch Phillips 

In this episode, Kelly and Jay recount an extraordinary night at the International Remote Viewing Association conference in Cloudcroft, New Mexico—one that began as a simple group experiment in spoon bending and ended with a display of unexplained aerial activity over the nearby White Sands Missile Range. As dozens of participants focused their attention around a bonfire, cutlery softened and twisted in their hands—just as amber lights began moving across the desert sky in ways that defied conventional motion. The synchronicity between the two events raised unsettling questions about consciousness, matter, and the possible feedback loop between human intention and the phenomenon itself. Kelly and Jay examine that night moment by moment, reflecting on its implications for remote viewing, psychokinesis, and the broader study of anomalous events. Along the way, they discuss: The history of spoon bending and PK (psychokinesis) experiments, from Jack Houck's “PK parties” to government research programs. The atmosphere and experiments at the IRVA conference, including conversations with legendary remote viewers like Lyn Buchanan, Paul H. Smith, and Dale Graff The simultaneous UAP activity observed near White Sands and its uncanny timing with the group's collective experiment How belief, skepticism, and shared attention can shape reality—and why documenting the anomalous is never just about evidence, but about participation. This episode invites listeners to consider the possibility that consciousness is not a passive observer of the world—but an active participant in its unfolding. Music for Cosmosis is by Michael Rubino. The show is brought to you by SpectreVision Radio. ✨ Join the conversation and go deeper: Cosmosis Community on Patreon – ad-free episodes, monthly calls, private Discord, and more: CosmosisCommunity.com Cosmosis: UFOs & A New Reality – now streaming on Amazon, Apple TV, and multiple platforms: Cosmosis.Media Watch Cosmosis: UFOs & A New Reality: https://www.cosmosis.media/ Join the Patreon: https://cosmosiscommunity.com Subscribe to Cosmosis: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@Cosmosis.Podcast Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7KnyktIs059pbVdccD020D?si=f3835f36a8cb479d Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/cosmosis-formerly-the-ufo-rabbit-hole/id1595590107 Follow Cosmosis X: https://x.com/cosmosis_media Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/share/12EEyNVPucu/?mibextid=wwXIfr Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/cosmosis.media Listen to the Cosmosis Soundtrack by Michael Rubino: Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/album/5Xvs2NAHNbKjfW7hWkjqey?si=pJPPgIPsRZGkZjJh19UULQ Apple Music: https://music.apple.com/us/album/cosmosis-ufos-a-new-reality-season-one-original-soundtrack/1788465117 Amazon: https://amazon.com/music/player/albums/B0DS5WY5CB?marketplaceId=ATVPDKIKX0DER&musicTerritory=US&ref=dm_sh_zY05XPzhLhuow5dAgK3g2W9yC TIMESTAMPS 04:17 Post-IRVA Conference Reflections 06:00 Deep Dive into Remote Viewing 17:34 Spoon Bending Experience and Online Reactions 35:22 Reflecting on Subjective Realities 36:53 Experiencers and Intellectual Humility 38:29 The Private Nature of Extraordinary Moments 41:15 The Challenge of Filming Personal Experiences 52:45 Skepticism and UFO Phenomena 01:04:46 The Magic of Field Work 01:06:54 Upcoming Projects and Community Engagement Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Support our Halloween “Overcoming the Darkness” campaign to help people with depression: https://weirddarkness.com/HOPEIn the year 2012, at a military installation in White Sands, New Mexico, Dr. Bronson conducts tests on advanced Zeus rockets while flying saucers repeatedly appear overhead. During one test, a saucer is detected on radar, prompting Bronson to order it shot down with a missile. The craft crashes in the nearby desert, where a local rancher discovers the wreckage. Bronson investigates the site, initially believing it abandoned, but discovers an occupant at the controls, leading to increasingly strange events. 2000 Plus presents “Flying Saucers!” | #RetroRadio EP0530CHAPTERS & TIME STAMPS (All Times Approximate)…00:00:00.000 = Show Open00:01:30.028 = CBS Radio Mystery Theater, “The Mark of Cain” (December 27, 1976) ***WD00:46:05.534 = Tales of the Frightened, “Man In The Raincoat” (1957)00:51:03.827 = The Saint, “Furniture Move” (March o4, 1951) ***WD01:18:59.319 = Theater Five, “Including Murder” (October 22, 1964)01:38:15.331 = 2000 Plus, “Flying Saucers” (August 23, 1950) ***WD02:07:22.289 = The Unexpected, “King Champion” (1947)02:22:00.843 = Unsolved Mysteries, “The Lizzie Borden Case” (1936) ***WD02:35:50.238 = Dark Venture, “Eclipse” (August 07, 1945)03:05:36.245 = The Weird Circle, “Warning” (December 17,1944)03:33:04.937 = The Whistler, “Death Carries a Lunch Kit” (October 23, 1944) ***WD04:02:21.019 = Witch's Tale, “Wonderful Bottle, Parts 1 & 2” (February 18, 1935) ***WD04:31:53.520 = X Minus One, “Mr Costello, Hero” (July 03, 1956)05:00:13.307 = Show Close(ADU) = Air Date Unknown(LQ) = Low Quality***WD = Remastered, edited, or cleaned up by Weird Darkness to make the episode more listenable. Audio may not be pristine, but it will be better than the original file which may have been unusable or more difficult to hear without editing.Weird Darkness theme by Alibi Music LibraryABOUT WEIRD DARKNESS: Weird Darkness is a true crime and paranormal podcast narrated by professional award-winning voice actor, Darren Marlar. Seven days per week, Weird Darkness focuses on all thing strange and macabre such as haunted locations, unsolved mysteries, true ghost stories, supernatural manifestations, urban legends, unsolved or cold case murders, conspiracy theories, and more. On Thursdays, this scary stories podcast features horror fiction along with the occasional creepypasta. Weird Darkness has been named one of the “Best 20 Storytellers in Podcasting” by Podcast Business Journal. Listeners have described the show as a cross between “Coast to Coast” with Art Bell, “The Twilight Zone” with Rod Serling, “Unsolved Mysteries” with Robert Stack, and “In Search Of” with Leonard Nimoy.= = = = ="I have come into the world as a light, so that no one who believes in me should stay in darkness." — John 12:46= = = = =WeirdDarkness® is a registered trademark. Copyright ©2025, Weird Darkness.= = = = =#ParanormalRadio #ScienceFiction #OldTimeRadio #OTR #OTRHorror #ClassicRadioShows #HorrorRadioShows #VintageRadioDramas #WeirdDarknessCUSTOM WEBPAGE: https://weirddarkness.com/WDRR0530

Addiction, recovery, and wellness aren't just abstract topics—they're real battles being fought every single day. In this episode of The Determined Society, Shawn French sits down with Stephen Sundquist of White Sands Treatment Centers, our Presenting Sponsor, to talk about what true healing looks like. Steve opens up about the mission behind White Sands—building an environment that prioritizes dignity, compassion, and real transformation for people navigating addiction and mental health struggles. Together, they dive into what separates White Sands from traditional treatment models, the urgent need for accessible care, and how recovery is not only possible, but a path to living fully again. **This episode explores:** -The White Sands philosophy: treating people, not just problems -Why mental health and recovery conversations belong at the forefront -The growing challenges in addiction treatment today -Stories of hope and transformation from the White Sands community -Why The Determined Society is proud to have White Sands as a Presenting Sponsor This is more than a discussion—it's a reminder that with the right support, determination, and environment, recovery is always within reach. Connect with me : https://link.me/theshawnfrench?fbclid=PAZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAaY2s9TipS1cPaEZZ9h692pnV-rlsO-lzvK6LSFGtkKZ53WvtCAYTKY7lmQ_aem_OY08g381oa759QqTr7iPGA Stephen Sundquist https://www.instagram.com/thesteve310/ White Sands Treatment Centers https://www.instagram.com/whitesandstreatment/ https://linktr.ee/whitesands_?utm_source=linktree_profile_share<sid=0fd40255-d9eb-460d-9eed-1d9197202607 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode of the Out of State Hunter Podcast, Chad talks with Moose and Zack Stephenson about the story of their once-in-a-lifetime oryx hunt on the White Sands Missile Range. From Moose's successful long-range shot to Zach's missed opportunity and then connecting with a successful shot, they relive the highs and lows of the hunt while reflecting on the camaraderie and challenges unique to hunting on the range.Armando joins the conversation late with a story from an antelope hunt he shared with his young daughter, adding another layer of perspective on the rewards and lessons of the hunt. Together, the group discusses the importance of appreciating every hunting opportunity, especially as access and tags become more limited in New Mexico and beyond. OUT OF STATE HUNTERhttps://www.instagram.com/outofstatehunter/  DEFIANCE MACHINESave 10% off at Defiance Machine with the code OUTOFSTATE10Website -https://defiancemachine.comInstagram -https://www.instagram.com/defiancemachine/ MCMILLAN STOCKSSave 10% on a new stock with the conde OUTOFSTATE10Website - https://mcmillanusa.comInstagram - https://www.instagram.com/mcmillanstocks/  REVIC OPTICSWebsite - https://www.revicoptics.comInstagram - https://www.instagram.com/revicoptics/ ARROWHEAD RIFLES - Website -https://arrowheadrifles.comInstagram -https://www.instagram.com/arrowheadrifles/    #outofstatehunter #gohunt #westernhunting #oryxhunt #whitesandsmissilerange #newmexicohunting #antelopehunting #diyhunting #publiclandhunting #longrangeshooting #outofstatehunter #westernbiggame #familyhunting #huntingstories #huntinglife #biggamehunting #huntingpodcast #gilamonsteroutdoors #huntingopportunities #huntnewmexico #huntingadventures #onceinalifetimehunt 

Send us a textCALL TO ACTION DEADLINE: September 15, 2025www.blueribboncoalition.org/hammersHost Big Rich Klein sits down with BlueRibbon Coalition's Ben Burr and longtime Johnson Valley advocate Shannon Welch to unpack a fast-moving proposal that could reshape recreation at the Hammers. The U.S. Marine Corps has requested permanent Special Use Airspace (SUA) over Johnson Valley—from the ground up to 8,000 feet—split into four corridors (A–D). While framed as limited use, the Environmental Assessment (EA) seeks a permanent designation via the FAA, not a temporary, training-only restriction.What's at stake - Medevac and search-and-rescue flights for everyday users, not just races - Backcountry aviation, personal drones, and private landowners (20,000 acres impacted) - Commercial filming/testing (e.g., Ford), ranching operations, and year-round OHV access - The integrity of a Congressionally Designated OHV Area and its $71M local economic impact. A precedent of closure-by-airspace has been seen at White Sands and Yuma Proving Ground.Community action - Comment deadline: September 15 - Submit via blueribboncoalition.org/hammers – Blue Ribbon guarantees your comments will be shared. Share widely with your OHV, aviation, ranching, and local business networksKey points - EA claims “no significant impact,” but provides no enforceable safeguards - Marines told some stakeholders “60 days/year,” yet the EA seeks permanent SUA – Blue Ribbon's reasonable alternative: a 1,500-foot buffer from ground/elevation to protect civilian useSupport the show

Ancient footprints in New Mexico are forcing scientists to rewrite the story of when humans first set foot in the Americas, and the debate is shaking paleoanthropology to its core. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices

An Anthro Chat With Stefan Milo.In this episode of ethnic psychology, David sits down with good friend Stefan Milo, archaeologist, YouTuber, and overall outstanding chap.David and Steve catch up on recent anthropology news and discussed the recent archaeological findings at White Sands national Park, as well as the recent genetic findings surrounding Dragon Man, the Denisovans, and the peopling of the Americas.David and Stefan also discuss the growing concern among content creators regarding automated intelligence and whether or not the recent advancements with AI video generation will put people like David and Stefan out of work.Stefan is a brilliant guy, and this conversation is as educational as it is pretty funny. So be sure to give it a listen!Links:davidianhowe.comDavidianhowe.com/storeArchPodNetAPN Website: https://www.archpodnet.comAPN on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/archpodnetAPN on Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/archpodnetAPN on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/archpodnetAPN ShopAffiliatesMotion

The east coast of Florida first heard the roar of a rocket heading toward space 75 years ago today. It failed. But it set the stage for thousands more launches – payloads intended for Earth orbit, the Moon, and targets throughout the solar system. The military had been conducting test flights from White Sands, New Mexico. But it was limited by the land-locked site. So it turned to a piece of scrubland known as Cape Canaveral. The site was chosen because it was isolated, it offered a moderate climate, and it was close to the equator, so it gave east-bound rockets an extra kick. Most important, it offered tens of thousands of square miles of open ocean to catch falling rockets. So workers carved out some space and built several launch pads. And on July 24th of 1950, they put one of them to work, launching a rocket called Bumper 8. The first stage was a V-2 captured from Germany at the end of World War II. The second stage was a small American-built rocket. As often happened in the early days, something went wrong. The rocket followed the wrong path, causing the second stage to fail. A second Bumper launch, nine days later, fared a bit better, but still didn’t achieve all of its goals. Today, Cape Canaveral and the adjoining Kennedy Space Center are busier than ever. Last year, they hosted a record 93 launches – adding to the tally of a 75-year-old spaceport. Script by Damond Benningfield

Cabe aclarar que la primera parte es un poco fuerte. Para los que son muy sensibles, por favor, avancen un poco.ESTO TAMBIÉN SE HA NOTADO EN LAS MUTILACIONES HUMANAS, una de las primeras de las cuales fue del sargento Jonathan P. Lovette en el campo de pruebas de misiles de White Sands en 1956, quien fue encontrado tres días después de que un comandante de la Fuerza Aérea presenciara su secuestro por un objeto "en forma de disco" a las 0300 mientras buscaba restos de misiles.

We explore White Sands National park and Alamogordo, New Mexico! Links:White Sands National ParkInfo on sledding at White Sands

In this episode of the Crux True Survival Story Podcast, hosts Julie Henningsen and Kaycee McIntosh recount the harrowing tale of a French family's dream vacation that turned into a nightmare at White Sands National Park in New Mexico. The episode delves into the extreme conditions and decisions that led to the deaths of David and Ornella Steiner, who sacrificed their lives to save their 9-year-old son amidst the park's unforgiving heat. Through expert insight and a step-by-step narrative, listeners gain a deeper understanding of the physiological and psychological challenges faced in such harsh environments, emphasizing the critical importance of preparation and caution when venturing into nature's most perilous landscapes. 00:00 Introduction to the Podcast 00:39 Setting the Scene: White Sands National Park 02:16 Meet the Steiner Family 04:46 The Fateful Hike Begins 08:38 The Harsh Realities of White Sands 13:50 Understanding Heat-Related Illnesses 16:40 A Mother's Sacrifice 18:01 Ruff Greens 19:12 A Heartbreaking Turn of Events 20:04 The Sunk Cost Mentality 21:05 Heat Exhaustion and Underestimation 23:20 The Family's Final Moments 25:09 The Rescue Operation 26:57 Aftermath and Reflections 28:09 Lessons from the Tragedy 30:33 The Essence of Parental Love 36:00 Final Thoughts and Takeaways 37:23 Podcast Outro and Listener Engagement   Email us! thecruxsurvival@gmail.com Instagram https://www.instagram.com/thecruxpodcast/ Get schooled by Julie in outdoor wilderness medicine! https://www.headwatersfieldmedicine.com/ References StrangeOutdoors.com - "The disturbing deaths of David and Ornella Steiner at White Sands Monument" (July 21, 2024) CNN - "French couple who died in desert gave son extra water, sheriff said" (August 11, 2015) The Washington Post - "French parents who died on New Mexico trail saved son's life by giving him their water, sheriff says" (August 8, 2015) Outside Online - "Couple Dies Hiking in White Sands" (August 2015) TIME - "Boy's Life Spared When Parents Sacrifice Water to Save Him in Desert" (August 11, 2015) France24 - "French couple die in US desert, nine-year-old son rescued" (August 8, 2015) CNN - "French couple dies in New Mexico desert; son survives" (August 10, 2015) Christian Science Monitor - "French couple dies in New Mexico desert, but saves son by giving him water" (August 11, 2015) Albuquerque Journal - "French couple die during midday White Sands hike" (August 7, 2015) ABC7 Chicago - "Sheriff: French pair who died in US desert likely saved son" (August 9, 2015) Yahoo Finance - "French hikers die in US desert, son survives" (August 8, 2015) Medical Sources: 12. Cleveland Clinic - "Heat Stroke: Symptoms, Treatment & Recovery" (2021) 13. NHS - "Heat exhaustion and heatstroke" 14. Healthline - "Heat Stroke vs. Heat Exhaustion: What's the Difference?" (May 26, 2023) 15. PMC/NCBI - "Exertional heat stroke: pathophysiology and risk factors" 16. StatPearls/NCBI - "Heat Stroke" 17. New England Journal of Medicine - "Heatstroke"

In this Midweek Mini, we dive into a listener-submitted road trip itinerary (thank you Lauren!) that kicks off in El Paso, Texas and explores three stunning national parks—Guadalupe Mountains, Carlsbad Caverns, and White Sands. We chatted about the best times to visit (hint: avoid the peak summer heat!), where to stay using points with Hilton and Hyatt, and the unique experiences each park offers—from hiking to the highest point in Texas to sledding down sand dunes.We also shared why a stop in quirky, alien-themed Roswell is worth the detour. If you're planning a Southwest loop, this episode is full of practical tips and fun ideas to help you make the most of your adventure.Submit Your Summer Roadtrip Series Story HEREFacebook Group | Support the Show: Buy Us A CoffeeSponsors For This Episode30% off the CardPointers subscription!Find Us On InstagramMary Ellen | JoAffiliate LinksMary Ellen's Chase Sapphire Preferred LinkJo's Chase Sapphire Preferred LinkSign up for the Daily Drop NewsletterCredit Card Affiliate LinksThe above link includes referrals for almost all travel cards (AMEX, CapitalOne, co-branded cards)If you need Chase links please reach out! We would be happy to send you our personal referral links or the Daily Drop newsletter link that will allow you to access our affiliate links.We receive a small commission when you use our links. This is an amazing way to show your support for the show at no cost to you ❤️

"I don't believe in any nonsense... but I'll keep an open mind. Out here, who knows?"In July of 1970, an Athena RTV rocket was launched from Green River, Utah. Containing the radioactive element cobalt-57, the rocket was supposed to arc harmlessly down in White Sands, New Mexico. But instead it went rogue, streaking south over the Mexican border to a desolate area near the Durango-Chihuahua state line.This location, known by many as the "Zone of Silence," has long held a reputation for the unexplained. Dating back to the 1800s, local homesteaders have claimed to witness "hot pebbles" tumbling from the sky. Planes have crashed here, meteorites fall with surprising regularity, and walkie-talkies reportedly malfunction within this sprawling desert. "Mexico's Bermuda Triangle," some have come to call it...Research by Ira RaiWriting by Amelia WhiteHosting and production by Micheal WhelanLearn more about this podcast at http://unresolved.meIf you would like to support this podcast, consider heading to https://www.patreon.com/unresolvedpod to become a Patron or ProducerBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/unresolved--3266604/support.

Guest Jennifer Raff is an Associate Professor of Anthropology at the University of Kansas.  She works with Indigenous communities and tribes across North America who wish to use DNA as a tool for investigating questions of recent and more distant histories. Her first book, “Origin: A Genetic History of the Americas,” is a New York Times bestseller and has won multiple awards, including the Phi Beta Kappa book award in science. In 2024 she was awarded a Guggenheim Fellowship (General Nonfiction) to support work on her second book. Why This Episode Matters Professor Raff discusses how genetic evidence has changed our understanding of the peopling of the Americas. Rather than a simple crossing of the Bering Land Bridge 13,000 years ago, DNA research suggests a more complex story involving population isolation during the Last Glacial Maximum (26,000-20,000 years ago), followed by multiple migration waves. Recent discoveries, like footprints at White Sands dating to 25,000+ years ago, continue to challenge existing theories. Three Important Takeaways Genetic evidence shows the ancestors of indigenous Americans descended from an isolated East Asian population that experienced gene flow with ancient North Siberians around 25,000 years ago. Beringia wasn't just a narrow "land bridge" but a lost continent twice the size of Texas, with its southern coast relatively habitable during the Last Glacial Maximum. Research in this field requires a multidisciplinary approach that respectfully incorporates indigenous knowledge and perspectives alongside scientific methods. Referenced Origin: A Generic History of the Americas https://anthropology.ku.edu/people/jennifer-raff

In this episode, Micah and Jason start the discussion with news from Egypt involving the alluring scents associated with mummified remains. The discussion then turns to news from White Sands, New Mexico. Archaeologists have discovered evidence of ancient transport technology in the Americas, suggesting that early North Americans used travois-like sleds for transport nearly 22,000 years ago. The team is then joined by Wyoming State Archaeologist Spencer Pelton to discuss the latest discoveries from the La Prele, Wyoming Mammoth kill site.  Spencer Pelton is the Wyoming State Archaeologist and an adjunct professor of anthropology at the University of Wyoming. Spencer has maintained a varied career in federal and state government, private, and academic sectors, working in Tennessee, North Carolina, California, Nevada, Colorado, and Wyoming during his 17-year career. He maintains research interests in the peopling of the Americas, but his field projects are increasingly focused on the latest prehistory and earliest history of the Wyoming High Plains and the Rocky Mountains. In addition to his academic and field research, Spencer is interested in the politics of heritage preservation and writes about that topic extensively in his Substack newsletter, Social Stigma. Seven Ages Official Merchandise  Instagram Facebook  Seven Ages Official Site  Patreon  Seven Ages YouTube  Guest Links  Early Paleoindian use of canids, felids, and hares for bone needle production at the La Prele site, Wyoming, USA  Spencer Pelton's Social Stigma 

Ep 124: Feb 26, 2025 - July 1947 UFO Crashes — First Link to Animal Mutilations? “The most spectacular light echo in the history of astronomy - Star “V838 Monocerotis” Robert Wood, PhD, former aerospace engineer was approached by Stanton Friedman to look at SOM-101 document he compiled a 190-page document called “THE MAJESTIC DOCUMENTS” MAJIC - new level of secrecy after Roswell crash 3 landing zones labelled LZ-1, LZ-2, LZ-3  near Roswell MJ-12 group advised presidents on UFO-related matters report by Interplanetary Phenomenon Unit tracked 2 UFOs on radar near White Sands proving ground LZ-2 craft less damaged “not belonging to any aircraft…from surrounding bases” “something out of this world” Kenneth Arnold, saw UFOs flying near Mt. Baker “Oppenheimer identified at LZ-2, among other ‘Paperclip' members, including Werhner von Braun” “wreckage and bodies being held” “several bodies taken to hospital at Roswell AFB…Los Alamos, Wright Field.” remains of power plant taken to research labs and other restricted bases 4 security team member profuse bleeding and death info on Roswell event shared with Rep. JFK “the occupants at LZ-2…some anatomical differences…greyish-pink skin color.” “the most disturbing aspect…other bodies..looked as if they had been dissected” “our country has played host to beings from another planet” ==== NEW PRINTINGS NOW AVAILABLE: Glimpses of Other Realities, Vol. 1: Fact & Eye Witnesses   Now available on Amazon: https://earthfiles.com/glimpses1  Glimpses of Other Realities, Vol. 2: High Strangeness   Now available on Amazon: https://earthfiles.com/glimpses2 ==== — For more incredible science stories, Real X-Files, environmental stories and so much more. Please visit my site https://www.earthfiles.com — Be sure to subscribe to this Earthfiles Channel the official channel for Linda Moulton Howe https://www.youtube.com/user/Earthfiles — To stay up to date on everything Earthfiles, follow me on FaceBook@EarthfilesNews and Twitter @Earthfiles.  To purchase books and merchandise from Linda Moulton Howe, be sure to only shop at my official Earthfiles store at https://www.earthfiles.com/earthfiles-shop/ — Countdown Clock Piano Music:  Ashot Danielyan, Composer:  https://www.pond5.com/stock-music/100990900/emotional-piano-melancholic-drama.html

33-year-old Geoffrey Spangler disappeared from Las Cruces, New Mexico, on November 8, 2021. Geoffrey left home that morning and told his mother he was going to Ruidoso, roughly 2 hours away, to stay in a cabin he rented. Geoffrey's mom, Tracie, never heard from her son again, which was unusual. Tracie contacted the resort where Geoffrey was staying, and he did have a cabin reserved, but they informed her that he had never made it there. Tracie's calls and texts to her son's phone went unanswered. Tracie decided to report her son missing the following morning. As the investigation began, they uncovered a plethora of strange clues that Tracie has spent the last several years attempting to make sense of.If you have any information regarding the disappearance of Geoffrey Spangler, please contact the Las Cruces Police Department at (575) 526-0795.If you have a missing loved one that you would like to have featured on the show, please fill out our case submission form.Follow The Vanished on social media at:FacebookInstagramTwitterPatreonSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.