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The Counter Narrative: Changing the Way We Talk (and think) About Education
In this episode of the Counter Narrative Podcast, host Charles Williams engages in a deep conversation with Coach Eli Casaus about the nuances of leadership, the importance of coaching over consulting, and the challenges of isolation in leadership roles. Eli shares his journey from being a reluctant teacher to a principal and now a leadership coach, emphasizing the significance of self-discovery, authentic conversations, and building a supportive network. The discussion also touches on mental health and the need for leaders to empower themselves and others in their educational environments.
The Counter Narrative: Changing the Way We Talk (and think) About Education
In this episode of the Counter Narrative Podcast, host Charles Williams engages with Dr. Amy Matthews-Perez, a seasoned educator with over 34 years of experience in special education. They discuss the importance of embracing progress over perfection, the subjectivity of perfection, and the significance of authenticity in education and career choices. Dr. Matthews-Perez shares her journey in education, practical tips for personal growth, and the value of self-reflection. The conversation emphasizes the need for educators and individuals to focus on their passions and to support one another in their journeys toward improvement and empowerment.
Meet Charles Williams--education leader, author, podcaster, and more. Charles is an active Assistant Principal in Chicago Public Schools--and the founder of CW Consulting: learn-grow-lead. He is also the host of the Counter Narrative Podcast. Charles and I connected at the Illinois Principals Conference in Peoria, fall of '24--and here we are today, May 13th, 2025--LIVE on the #ELB podcast at 7:45 EST.Join us talking leadership, education, and Charles' journey! #SurviveThriveLearn more about Charles here: https://www.cwconsultingservice.com/m...This podcast is sponsored by IXL Personalized Learning. IXL is used by more than 1 million teachers each day. It is also the most widely used online learning and teaching platform for K-12. Learn more here: https://bit.ly/ELBIXL
The Counter Narrative: Changing the Way We Talk (and think) About Education
In this episode of the Counter Narrative Podcast, Charles Williams speaks with Melisa Hayes, a dedicated second-grade teacher with over 25 years of experience. They discuss the importance of balancing fun and technology in education, the need for student empowerment, and creative teaching strategies that engage young learners. Melisa shares her insights on how to create a dynamic classroom environment that fosters learning through play and technology, while also encouraging educators to take risks and innovate in their teaching practices.
The Counter Narrative: Changing the Way We Talk (and think) About Education
In this episode of the Counter Narrative Podcast, Charles Williams engages in a thought-provoking conversation with Tara Bonner, an educator with extensive experience in understanding learning struggles. They explore the intersection of education and cognitive science, discussing the importance of recognizing and addressing the cognitive functions that contribute to learning difficulties such as dyslexia. Tara emphasizes the need for a shift in the educational system from a fixed mindset to a growth mindset, advocating for personalized approaches to learning that consider each student's unique cognitive profile. The conversation also highlights the significance of curiosity and understanding in supporting students with learning challenges, and Tara shares valuable resources for educators to better assess and support their students' cognitive needs. In this conversation, Tara and Charles explore the complexities of cognitive load in education, emphasizing the importance of understanding students' unique cognitive profiles. They discuss the damaging effects of labeling students as lazy and the need for a cognitive lens to view learning challenges. The conversation highlights the significance of a growth mindset and actionable steps educators can take to support their students. Tara introduces the Aerosmith program, a cognitive approach designed to help students strengthen their cognitive abilities through targeted exercises.
The Counter Narrative: Changing the Way We Talk (and think) About Education
In this episode of the Counter Narrative Podcast, host Charles Williams engages with educator Mark Gibson Jr. about his journey in education, the importance of building resiliency in students, and the proactive strategies educators can implement to foster a supportive learning environment. Mark shares his personal experiences and insights on mentorship, accountability, and the necessity of creating safe spaces for students to thrive. The conversation emphasizes the need for educators to be aware of their biases, to build strong relationships with students, and to prioritize their own wellness in order to effectively support their students' growth.
The Counter Narrative: Changing the Way We Talk (and think) About Education
In this episode of the Counter Narrative Podcast, Charles Williams shares his personal journey of understanding autism through the lens of his grandson, Leo. He emphasizes that autism awareness should extend beyond a single month and highlights the importance of acceptance, support, and celebrating small victories. Charles discusses the significance of viewing behavior as communication and the role of advocacy in creating a more inclusive world for individuals with autism. He encourages listeners to approach autism with curiosity, empathy, and love, advocating for a shift in perspective that celebrates differences rather than tolerating them.
The Counter Narrative: Changing the Way We Talk (and think) About Education
In this episode of the Counter Narrative Podcast, Charles Williams speaks with Lydia McNeely, a lead professional learning specialist for Hatching Results, about her non-traditional journey in education and the vital role of school counselors. They discuss the current challenges facing school counselors, particularly regarding misconceptions about their roles, the importance of family engagement, and the need for community support in education. Lydia shares her experiences and insights on how to effectively support students and families, especially in immigrant communities, and emphasizes the importance of being intentional in outreach and engagement efforts. In this conversation, Lydia McNeiley and Charles Williams discuss the evolving role of school counselors, addressing misconceptions about their work and the importance of diversity, equity, and inclusion in education. They emphasize the need for counselors to support all students and advocate for their needs, while also providing resources for parents and educators to better understand the counseling profession.
The Counter Narrative: Changing the Way We Talk (and think) About Education
In this episode of the Counter Narrative Podcast, Charles Williams speaks with Dr. Julie Hasson about her journey in education, focusing on the importance of teacher resilience and engagement. They discuss the shift from external factors affecting teacher retention to the internal resources teachers need to thrive. Julie shares practical strategies for building resilience, the significance of self-check-ins, and the need for a culture of honesty in educational settings. The conversation also highlights the upcoming NCMLE conference and the sessions they will be leading.
The Counter Narrative: Changing the Way We Talk (and think) About Education
In this episode of the Counter Narrative Podcast, host Charles Williams engages with David James, a dedicated seventh-grade social studies teacher and conference director for the North Carolina Association for Middle Level Education (NCMLE). They discuss the journey of educators, the significance of teacher leadership, and the impact of personalized professional development on student achievement. David shares insights from his experience in education, emphasizing the importance of mentorship, networking, and empowering teachers to take initiative in their roles. The conversation also highlights the upcoming NCMLE conference, which promises to be a valuable opportunity for educators to connect and grow.Register for NCMLE
The Counter Narrative: Changing the Way We Talk (and think) About Education
In this episode of the Counter Narrative Podcast, host Charles Williams engages with educator Ishmael Jimenez, who shares his journey into education and the importance of understanding historical context in teaching. They discuss the significance of Black history, the role of educators in challenging dominant narratives, and the need for truth in education. Ishmael emphasizes the importance of community engagement and the responsibility of educators to speak truthfully, even in the face of fear and societal pushback. The conversation concludes with recommendations for resources to deepen understanding of these issues and a call to action for listeners to engage with their communities.
The Counter Narrative: Changing the Way We Talk (and think) About Education
In this episode of the Counter Narrative Podcast, host Charles Williams engages in a rich conversation with guests Leonard Webb and Vernon Wright. They explore the significance of Black History Month, the importance of storytelling, and the need to challenge the traditional narratives surrounding Black history. Leonard shares a personal story about his father, highlighting the complexities of race and identity, while Vernon emphasizes the importance of service and understanding one's purpose. Together, they aim to uplift voices and share experiences that resonate with the broader themes of resilience and cultural heritage. In this conversation, the speakers delve into the significance of names, identity, and the importance of preparing for life's challenges. They explore the historical context of Timbuktu, emphasizing the need to recognize and understand our roots. The discussion highlights the importance of empathy through understanding history and the role of narratives in shaping our perspectives. The speakers also stress the importance of passing knowledge and stories to future generations, encouraging a call to serve and uplift others.
The Counter Narrative: Changing the Way We Talk (and think) About Education
In this episode of the Counter Narrative Podcast, Charles Williams emphasizes the critical need to teach authentic history, particularly during Black History Month. He discusses the intersection of policies and problems, particularly in relation to immigration and the historical context of laws like the Fugitive Slave Act. Williams argues that understanding our shared history is essential for recognizing patterns that inform current societal issues. He calls for vigilance in education and community engagement to ensure that the full story is told, advocating for a more inclusive and honest approach to history that empowers future generations.
The Counter Narrative: Changing the Way We Talk (and think) About Education
In this episode of the Counter Narrative Podcast, host Charles Williams engages with educator Maggie Broderick to discuss the importance of belonging in education and the concept of 'oases'—hidden spaces within schools where students can find connection and support. They explore how these oases contribute to social emotional learning and the overall well-being of students, emphasizing the need for educators to be supported in their roles. The conversation highlights the impact of extracurricular activities and the necessity of preserving these vital spaces in the face of budget cuts and educational policies that prioritize standardized testing over holistic education.
The Counter Narrative: Changing the Way We Talk (and think) About Education
In this episode of the Counter Narrative Podcast, Charles Williams reflects on the significance of Martin Luther King Jr. Day coinciding with the inauguration of Donald Trump. He explores the contrasting legacies of King and Trump, emphasizing the importance of dialogue and the role of educators in promoting equity and inclusion. Williams challenges listeners to consider their contributions to King's dream and the necessity of aligning actions with values of justice, especially in the face of systemic barriers.
The Counter Narrative: Changing the Way We Talk (and think) About Education
In this episode of the Counter Narrative Podcast, host Charles Williams engages with Jose Moreno, a former tech professional turned EdTech entrepreneur. They discuss the importance of challenging harmful narratives surrounding immigration, the impact of implicit bias in education, and the need for practical tools to support English Language Learners. Jose shares his personal story, highlighting the sacrifices of his mother and the misconceptions about immigrant families. The conversation emphasizes the role of technology in breaking down language barriers and improving educational outcomes for marginalized students.
The Counter Narrative: Changing the Way We Talk (and think) About Education
Episode Summary In this episode of the Counter Narrative Podcast, Charles Williams engages in a deep conversation with Jennifer Abrams about the significance of having hard conversations in educational settings. They explore the challenges of professional development, the necessity of adult development in schools, and the importance of emotional hygiene during professional learning. Jennifer shares her insights on how to navigate time constraints in PD sessions and emphasizes the need for intentionality in designing effective professional development experiences. The discussion also highlights the hunger for connection and meaningful learning among educators, and the resources available to support their growth.
The Counter Narrative: Changing the Way We Talk (and think) About Education
Episode Summary In this holiday episode of the Counter Narrative Podcast, host Charles Williams is joined by co-authors of the book 'Grow Your Why' to discuss the significance of the holiday season, personal stories of growth, and the importance of connection. Each guest shares their unique contributions to the book, reflecting on their journeys and the impact of believing in oneself. The conversation also delves into cherished holiday traditions, the joy of food, and the memories that shape our experiences during this special time of year. In this engaging conversation, the participants share their cherished holiday memories and the traditions that shape their family gatherings. They reflect on the importance of music, food, and community in creating lasting connections. The discussion highlights how they carry on family traditions while also adapting and creating new ones, emphasizing the joy of togetherness and the impact of shared experiences. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/thecounternarrative/support
The Counter Narrative: Changing the Way We Talk (and think) About Education
Episode Summary In this episode of the Counter Narrative Podcast, Charles Williams discusses the emerging trends in education, particularly focusing on the role of AI in addressing mental health challenges among students. He emphasizes the need to shift the conversation around AI from viewing it as a threat to recognizing its potential as a supportive tool for emotional well-being. Williams highlights the importance of providing personalized AI companions for students, while also addressing concerns about equity and the human element in education. He challenges listeners to rethink how AI can enhance student support and contribute to holistic education. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/thecounternarrative/support
The Counter Narrative: Changing the Way We Talk (and think) About Education
Episode Summary In this episode of the Counter Narrative Podcast, host Charles Williams engages in a deep conversation with Holly O'Hern, a leadership development expert and certified Dare to Lead facilitator. They explore the importance of self-care in leadership, the courage to be vulnerable, and the transformative power of community engagement. Holly shares her journey from corporate America to becoming a solopreneur, emphasizing the need for leaders to prioritize their well-being to effectively support others. The discussion highlights practical strategies for self-care and the significance of building connections within communities. Key Takeaways Self-care is essential for effective leadership. Courage is necessary to embrace vulnerability. Connection with others enhances personal growth. Engaging in community work can provide new perspectives. Practicing vulnerability builds trust and authenticity. Mental health should be integrated into workplace culture. Leaders must prioritize their own needs to support others. Transformation often comes from embracing messiness. Creating new neural pathways through practice is vital. It's okay to ask for help and seek accountability. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/thecounternarrative/support
The Counter Narrative: Changing the Way We Talk (and think) About Education
In this episode of the Counter Narrative Podcast, Charles Williams reflects on the transformative power of theater and the song 'Defying Gravity' from Wicked. He explores themes of personal growth, the importance of standing firm in one's values, and the challenges faced in advocacy and equity work. Through personal anecdotes and insights, he encourages listeners to embrace their truth, defy societal expectations, and inspire others to rise. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/thecounternarrative/support
The Counter Narrative: Changing the Way We Talk (and think) About Education
Episode Summary In this episode of the Counter Narrative Podcast, host Charles Williams speaks with Dr. Christopher Culver about his journey in education, the importance of kindness and empathy, and strategies for fostering a positive school culture. Dr. Culver shares insights on the differences between Gen Z and Gen Alpha, the impact of social media on youth, and the significance of mindfulness and gratitude in educational settings. He emphasizes the need for educators to create spaces where students feel valued and connected, and offers practical tips for integrating kindness into daily routines. Key Takeaways Dr. Culver emphasizes the importance of kindness in education. He believes that life is happening for us, not to us. Creating spaces of kindness is essential for student well-being. Self-kindness is as important as kindness to others. Educators must recognize the positives in students. Mindfulness and gratitude can transform classroom dynamics. Dr. Culver's research focuses on school culture and teacher retention. Understanding generational differences is crucial for educators. Empathy has declined since the pandemic, necessitating a renewed focus. Building trust and relationships is key to effective education. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/thecounternarrative/support
The Counter Narrative: Changing the Way We Talk (and think) About Education
In this episode of the Counter Narrative Podcast, Charles Williams reflects on his personal journey of celebrating his birthday after a decade of avoidance. He explores the themes of survivor guilt related to the loss of loved ones, particularly his grandparents, and the impact of codependency on self-worth and celebration. Through his reflections, he emphasizes the importance of embracing joy and self-love as a means to honor those we've lost and to break free from cycles of guilt and self-neglect. Charles encourages listeners to recognize their own worthiness of happiness and to celebrate themselves. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/thecounternarrative/support
The Counter Narrative: Changing the Way We Talk (and think) About Education
Episode Summary In this episode of the Counter Narrative Podcast, Charles Williams reflects on his journey as an educator and leader, emphasizing the importance of leading by example. He shares insights gained from observing both effective and ineffective leaders, highlighting that true leadership is rooted in human connection, integrity, and consistency. Williams discusses the impact of leaders' choices on team trust and the significance of embodying the values they wish to instill in their teams. He challenges listeners to consider the legacy they want to leave and the environment they wish to create through their actions. Key Takeaways Leadership is shaped by observing others. Leading by example is a powerful form of leadership. Authenticity in leadership inspires teams. Leadership is about human connection, not just strategy. Consistency is critical in leading by example. Integrity must align with stated values. Leaders' choices impact team trust. Building a culture that endures is essential. Reflect on the values that matter most to you. Leadership starts with everyday actions. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/thecounternarrative/support
Please join us for “Lessons in Leadership: An Interview with Charles Williams about Shifting School Discipline Practices.”Charles Williams, a dedicated educator with nearly two decades of experience, has made impactful contributions in various capacities, including teacher, assistant principal, and principal within the K-12 educational sector. His unwavering commitment to fostering equity is highlighted through his advocacy work with the Equity Offices of both the City of Chicago and Chicago Public Schools. Charles extends his passion for promoting inclusive narratives as the host of "The Counter Narrative Podcast" and as a former co-host of the educational show "Inside the Principal's Office." In addition to his educational endeavors, Charles is the founder of a consulting firm, where he thrives as a best-selling author and is celebrated for his compelling workshops and motivational keynote speeches.Expanding his influence beyond his immediate professional circle, Charles contributes his expertise and insights as a board member for the College of Humanities, Education, and Social Sciences at Purdue Northwest. His commitment to educational excellence and leadership development is further exemplified through his roles on the boards of Lead by Learning and the Leadership EDIT Conference. Through these positions, Charles continues to advocate for transformative educational practices and leadership strategies that resonate across diverse platforms and communities.Support the show
The Counter Narrative: Changing the Way We Talk (and think) About Education
In this episode of The Counter Narrative Podcast, Charles shares a humorous yet insightful story about his summer battle with yard grubs and how it relates to deeper issues within school culture. He explores the dangers of focusing on superficial fixes while ignoring the root problems that can slowly erode a school's foundation. Tune in as Charles provides three practical strategies for addressing the “grubs” in your school and fostering a healthy, vibrant culture that lasts. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/thecounternarrative/support
The Counter Narrative: Changing the Way We Talk (and think) About Education
In this episode of The Counter Narrative Podcast, I take a moment to reflect on the importance of emotional hygiene and how unchecked emotions can lead to emotional pollution in our schools and relationships. Inspired by a session with Jennifer Abrams, author of Stretching Your Learning Edges, I explore how these two concepts can impact our classrooms and staff rooms, using Pigpen from Peanuts as a metaphor for the emotional “dust” we carry. Tune in as I share practical steps to maintain emotional hygiene, build healthier school environments, and foster more meaningful connections with students and colleagues. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/thecounternarrative/support
The Counter Narrative: Changing the Way We Talk (and think) About Education
In this insightful episode of "The Counter Narrative Podcast," I delve into the crucial skills of setting clear boundaries and confidently saying no. "Yes to Less" offers practical advice on defining and maintaining personal and professional boundaries, ensuring that they are respected. Learn how to handle requests that infringe on your time and peace of mind without feeling guilty. I share personal stories and strategies that empower you to prioritize your well-being and commit to what truly matters. Tune in to discover how defending your boundaries can lead to a more focused and fulfilling life. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/thecounternarrative/support
The Counter Narrative: Changing the Way We Talk (and think) About Education
Episode Description In this enlightening episode of The Counter Narrative Podcast, host Charles Williams sits down with education expert Jamie Brown to discuss a compelling perspective on the current state of education. Jamie challenges the popular belief that there has been a dramatic shift in educational methodologies; instead, he argues that we have simply become more cognizant of the existing needs within the system. Throughout the conversation, Jamie elucidates how this heightened awareness is not only challenging but also immensely rewarding for educators and students alike. By embracing this new approach, educators can maximize their personal growth and help students achieve their highest potential. Moreover, Jamie advocates for a crucial balance between professional dedication and personal well-being. He emphasizes the importance of educators giving their all during school hours while also stressing the necessity to 'turn it off' and recharge once they step out of the educational environment. This balance, Jamie suggests, is key not only to maintaining a healthy life outside of work but also to ensuring sustained engagement and effectiveness within the educational sphere. Tune in to explore how embracing both awareness and balance can revolutionize educational practices and outcomes. Contact Jamie Website Socials @jamiebrownleadership --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/thecounternarrative/support
The Counter Narrative: Changing the Way We Talk (and think) About Education
In this compelling episode of "The Counter Narrative Podcast," I dive deep into the heart-wrenching realities laid bare by the podcast "Unreformed: The Story of the Alabama Industrial School for Negro Children," and extend the conversation to the broader issue of the criminalization of young people of color within our education systems. This episode sheds light on the immediate and long-lasting impacts of systemic injustices that disproportionately affect young men of color, echoing the stories and themes presented in "Unreformed." --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/thecounternarrative/support
The Counter Narrative: Changing the Way We Talk (and think) About Education
In this enlightening episode of the Counter Narrative Podcast, we have the privilege of welcoming Dr. Brian Dinkins, a renowned trauma-informed educator hailing from Indianapolis, who brings his invaluable insights and compassionate approach to addressing a critical issue in education today. Dr. Dinkins, with his extensive background in trauma-informed practices, delves into the profound impact trauma has on both individuals and educational environments, shedding light on the often unseen struggles many students face. Throughout the conversation, Dr. Dinkins emphasizes the importance of recognizing and understanding trauma, not just in our students, but within ourselves. He articulates how personal experiences with trauma can significantly affect educators' interactions and relationships with students, potentially influencing classroom dynamics and student outcomes. Join us for this deeply impactful discussion that not only highlights the challenges faced by many in our education system but also illuminates a path forward through awareness, compassion, and informed action. Whether you're an educator, parent, or anyone interested in the well-being of our youth, this episode offers valuable insights into how we can all contribute to a more understanding and supportive world for our students. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/thecounternarrative/support
The Counter Narrative: Changing the Way We Talk (and think) About Education
In this introspective episode of The Counter Narrative Podcast, I delve into the delicate art of Kintsugi, drawing a poignant parallel to the transformative journey of educational organizations. As we explore the beauty in embracing and highlighting our flaws, I invite listeners to reflect on the golden seams within their own spaces. Join me as I weave a narrative not just about mending what's broken but about reimagining and celebrating the imperfections that make our educational tapestry rich and unique. Together, we'll discover how the act of thoughtful repair can illuminate the path to resilience, strength, and a more profound beauty in our collective mission. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/thecounternarrative/support
The Counter Narrative: Changing the Way We Talk (and think) About Education
In this thought-provoking "Pause to Ponder" episode of The Counter Narrative Podcast, Charles delves deep into the rich tapestry of Afro-Irish heritage, a journey sparked by his own mixed ancestry and the intriguing question: Is the term "Black Irish" rooted in reality or merely a myth? He embarks on a historical exploration, unraveling the origins and evolutions of this complex identity. From the legendary tales of the Spanish Armada to the vibrant stories of contemporary Afro-Irish figures like Phil Lynott, Paul McGrath, and Ruth Negga, this episode illuminates the contributions that have woven the intricate social and cultural fabric of Ireland today. Join me as I celebrate diversity, challenge perceptions, and uncover the nuanced stories of the Afro-Irish community, shedding light on a lesser-known aspect of Ireland's diverse identity. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/thecounternarrative/support
The Counter Narrative: Changing the Way We Talk (and think) About Education
In this enlightening episode of The Counter Narrative Podcast, host Charles sits down with trauma-informed expert Charle Peck to delve deep into the critical shortcomings of current Social and Emotional Learning (SEL) frameworks. Charle provocatively argues that the SEL programs in place today fall short of their transformative potential, primarily because they overlook the intricate tapestry of human interactions and the nuanced needs of individuals grappling with trauma. With her insightful analysis, Charle underscores the necessity for a more holistic approach that genuinely accommodates the complexities of human behavior and emotions. As the conversation unfolds, Charles and Charle coin the term "simple sustainable solutions," advocating for a paradigm shift in how we conceive and implement SEL initiatives. This episode is a clarion call to educators, policymakers, and mental health professionals to rethink and revitalize our current methodologies, ensuring they are truly inclusive and effective in nurturing resilient, empathetic communities. Tune in for a thought-provoking discussion that challenges the status quo and paves the way for innovative, accessible strategies in the realm of social and emotional learning. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/thecounternarrative/support
The Counter Narrative: Changing the Way We Talk (and think) About Education
In this compelling episode of The Counter Narrative Podcast, host Charles Williams explores the nuanced relationship between alignment and agreement in leadership, inspired by insights from the John Maxwell Executive Leadership Podcast. Charles delves into the importance of maintaining a unified team front, emphasizing that true alignment transcends mere agreement and is deeply rooted in shared core values. Through personal anecdotes, he illustrates how alignment on fundamental principles can bridge the gap between differing opinions, transforming potential conflicts into opportunities for collaboration. Charles concludes with practical advice for those facing misalignment in their professional lives: identify and understand your core values, assess their alignment with your organization and its leaders, and then decide whether to engage in dialogue to find common ground or seek a new environment that resonates with your values. This episode is a must-listen for anyone looking to navigate the complexities of leadership and team dynamics with integrity and purpose. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/thecounternarrative/support
The Counter Narrative: Changing the Way We Talk (and think) About Education
Episode Description: Join host Charles Williams on this enlightening episode of The Counter Narrative Podcast as he sits down with the insightful Erin Glenn to tackle a topic close to the heart of every educator: treating education as a respected profession amidst its often challenging portrayal in the media. Erin, with her wealth of experience and passion for education, delves into the critical issues of teacher recruitment and retention, offering a fresh perspective on how we can not only prepare teachers for the challenges of the classroom but also ensure they remain engaged, current, and have ample opportunities for growth beyond their teaching roles. Throughout the conversation, Erin sheds light on the systemic changes needed to elevate the teaching profession, drawing on examples of successful strategies and personal anecdotes to illustrate her points. She emphasizes the importance of creating a supportive environment that values continuous learning and professional development, ensuring that educators feel valued, respected, and motivated to excel in their careers. Whether you're an educator, administrator, policy maker, or simply someone who cares about the future of education, this episode is a must-listen. Join us as we explore the ways in which we can collectively work towards a future where education is not only respected but revered, and where teachers are recognized as the pillars of society they truly are. Don't miss this compelling conversation on The Counter Narrative Podcast. Guest Biography: --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/thecounternarrative/support
The Counter Narrative: Changing the Way We Talk (and think) About Education
In this insightful episode of "The Counter Narrative Podcast," host Charles Williams sits down with Joe Brummer, an expert in trauma-informed practices. Together, they delve into the transformative world of restorative practices in educational settings, a movement gaining momentum across schools nationwide. Joe sheds light on a critical oversight in the current implementation of these practices; while they hold immense potential for fostering understanding and resolution, their effectiveness is frequently undercut by a lack of integration with trauma-informed approaches. Through a thought-provoking discussion, Joe emphasizes that for restorative justice to realize its full promise, it must be underpinned by a deep understanding of trauma and its impacts. This episode is a must-listen for educators, administrators, and anyone interested in creating more empathetic and effective environments for conflict resolution. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/thecounternarrative/support
The Counter Narrative: Changing the Way We Talk (and think) About Education
In this thought-provoking episode of "The Counter Narrative Podcast," host Charles Williams delves into the nuanced and complex history of integration in America, drawing compelling parallels between the integration of the Negro Leagues into Major League Baseball and the desegregation of schools. Through the lens of specific examples, such as the decline of the Kansas City Monarchs and the challenges faced by Sumner High School, we explore the unintended consequences of integration on vital African American institutions. The episode concludes with insightful suggestions on recognizing and preserving the contributions of these institutions, fostering a nuanced understanding of integration's effects, and ensuring real equality in practice within the field of education. Join us as we navigate the intricate legacy of integration and its impact on both the past and present of American society. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/thecounternarrative/support
After a long, tough school year, I figured we could all use a good laugh. In this encore interview in Episode 45 from April of 2021, I interview the one and only Mr. D, Joe Dombrowski the educator and comedian who performs around the country and whose videos have gone viral. We talk about the importance of using humor when teaching, and how to do it, even if you don't think you're funny. I also share a taste of how I recently used humor to connect with students. This is the perfect summer episode: Learn a little something and laugh a lot. I want to thank my special guest, Joe Dombrowski, and my fellow education podcasters who helped with my fauxmercial today: Charles Williams, Host of The Counter Narrative Podcast, and Shane Lawrence of The Ed Podcast and Unprofessional Development, and of course, Yossie Frankel. I can watch this a million times and still laugh: https://youtu.be/RwnBAHtc1D0 Joe's first appearance on Ellen: https://youtu.be/SqoJMbLRNjc See more of Joe's great video's and listen to his podcast: https://www.mrdtimes3.com/ Find Joe on Twitter: @MrDtimes3
Charles Williams, host of The Counter Narrative Podcast, co-host of Inside the Principal's Office, and co-author of "Inside the Principal's Office,” Charles launched CW Consulting to focus on helping institutions to unlock their potential and delivering results. The post Episode #141: Intersection of Education, Leadership and Equity with Charles Williams first appeared on Rethinking Learning.
The Counter Narrative: Changing the Way We Talk (and think) About Education
Welcome to the Counter Narrative Podcast, a show designed to change the way we talk, and think, about education. By sharing stories of successes and triumphs, we aim to challenge the dominant narrative that often negatively portrays our disenfranchised populations. I'm your host, Charles Williams. An urban educator for more than 15 years, a current school principal in Chicago, an educational consultant, an equity advocate, and the co-host of Inside The Principal's Office. -- Vote for my session, "The Problem with Color Blindness," to be included in SXSW EDU. Click here to vote. -- We use some phrases in educational conversations so often that they have become almost cliche. Why they are still important to maximizing learning for our students, I fear that they have been reduced to little more than lip service. This is evident as those same conversations, while recognizing the need for such practices, also relies heavily on Discourse I conversation in which the students, their families, and even society is blamed for the lack of progress that we are making. My challenge to those who partake in such discussions is to consider shifting to Discourse II and examining the roles that we play in both the problems and the solutions. Using our recent Back 2 School Bash, I point out how we are attempting to actually move beyond conversation in order to support not just our students but their families and the surrounding community as well. I recognize that no approach will be fool proof but doing something is better than doing nothing. -- I want to thank you for listening to The Counter Narrative Podcast. If you like what you are hearing, please be sure to like, subscribe, and of course share it with friends and family. I'd also love to hear your thoughts about the show so please leave a comment or two as well. I'm not sure what platform you're using but the show can be found on Anchor, Google Podcasts, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and plenty of other platforms. If the show isn't on your preferred site, let me know and I'll be sure to get it up and running. This podcast is also featured on SchoolRubric.com, where you can find educational articles, videos, and interviews with educators from around the globe. Be sure to connect with me and other listeners by following the show on Twitter at @theCNpodcast and joining the show's Facebook Group. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/thecounternarrative/support
The Counter Narrative: Changing the Way We Talk (and think) About Education
Welcome to the Counter Narrative Podcast, a show designed to change the way we talk, and think, about education. By sharing stories of successes and triumphs, we aim to challenge the dominant narrative that often negatively portrays our disenfranchised populations. I'm your host, Charles Williams. An urban educator for more than 15 years, a current school principal in Chicago, an educational consultant, an equity advocate, and the co-host of Inside The Principal's Office. -- This episode is a pause to ponder segment. These biweekly sessions will allow me to share with you my personal thoughts and reflections on a wide spectrum of topics as they relate to education. It is my hope that you will be able to take something from these segments and apply it in a meaningful way as you continue to do amazing work. Remember, while we all have different roles, we all have a single job, educating our students. -- What do the New York Yankees and teacher retention have to do in common? Well, consider that in the past 25 years, 44% of the championship teams also fell into the top 3 salary spendings for their respective years. In fact, the average winning team had a payroll that was nearly one standard deviation higher than the average. And the Yankees? Well their five championships during the past 25 years can be attributed to having a payroll that was 2 standard deviations higher than the average. What does this mean? One of my favorite players, Anthony Rizzo, former first basemen for the Chicago Cubs, recently joined the Yankees and has not been quiet about his dissatisfaction with the teams reluctance to pay him or others what they were worth. In short, he said to invest in your people. While I understand that MLB salary caps and educational funding are vastly different models, the point of this discussion still holds true. How is it possible that there are teachers who are making a liveable wage (or higher) while others are required to work additional jobs to survive? Furthermore, how can we expect the same level of performance from these same groups of teachers? Or even, what are we saying about how much we value their contributions to our organizations? In short, if you value your people, you need to invest in your people. Yes, it may be costly up front, but the results speak for themselves. -- I want to thank you for listening to The Counter Narrative Podcast. If you like what you are hearing, please be sure to like, subscribe, and of course share it with friends and family. I'd also love to hear your thoughts about the show so please leave a comment or two as well. I'm not sure what platform you're using but the show can be found on Anchor, Google Podcasts, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and plenty of other platforms. If the show isn't on your preferred site, let me know and I'll be sure to get it up and running. This podcast is also featured on SchoolRubric.com, where you can find educational articles, videos, and interviews with educators from around the globe. Be sure to connect with me and other listeners by following the show on Twitter at @theCNpodcast and joining the show's Facebook Group. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/thecounternarrative/support
The Counter Narrative: Changing the Way We Talk (and think) About Education
Welcome to the Counter Narrative Podcast, a show designed to change the way we talk, and think, about education. By sharing stories of successes and triumphs, we aim to challenge the dominant narrative that often negatively portrays our disenfranchised populations. I'm your host, Charles Williams. An urban educator for more than 15 years, a current school principal in Chicago, an educational consultant, an equity advocate, and the co-host of Inside The Principal's Office. -- In this episode, I chat with Zachary Korth, a second year Assistant Principal within Chicago Public Schools. He previously served as the Math Instructional Coach and College and Career Counselor within Austin ISD and a STEM Instructional Coach in Portland Public. With a wealth of experience in restorative practices and building a climate and culture of high expectations and energy, he ensures everyone gets what they n eed to be successful. Whenever interacting with Mr. Korth you know he will always listen, support, and, if needed, offer solutions. In honor of Pride Month, we centered our conversation around the LGBTQ community. Specifically, we addressed the continued issues members of this community are facing not just from society but from their parents and educators. Note that I didn't mention peers because as Zach and I both noted, a majority of the students within our schools have largely accepted their LGBTQ counterparts. In fact, Zach shares his perceptions of why adults are so often reluctant to embrace these orientations that they view as “abnormal.” Yes, that was sarcasm Texas. During the conversation, we continuously circled back to the idea of not only acceptance but respect and love. Afterall, we are all humans and deserve to be treated as such. Ready to hear more? Let's go! -- I want to thank you for listening to The Counter Narrative Podcast. If you like what you are hearing, please be sure to like, subscribe, and of course share it with friends and family. I'd also love to hear your thoughts about the show so please leave a comment or two as well. I'm not sure what platform you're using but the show can be found on Anchor, Google Podcasts, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and plenty of other platforms. If the show isn't on your preferred site, let me know and I'll be sure to get it up and running. This podcast is also featured on SchoolRubric.com, where you can find educational articles, videos, and interviews with educators from around the globe. Be sure to connect with me and other listeners by following the show on Twitter at @theCNpodcast and joining the show's Facebook Group. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/thecounternarrative/support
The Counter Narrative: Changing the Way We Talk (and think) About Education
Welcome to the Counter Narrative Podcast, a show designed to change the way we talk, and think, about education. By sharing stories of successes and triumphs, we aim to challenge the dominant narrative that often negatively portrays our disenfranchised populations. I'm your host, Charles Williams. An urban educator for more than 15 years, a current school principal in Chicago, an educational consultant, an equity advocate, and the co-host of Inside The Principal's Office. -- This weekend marks the second annual national holiday of Juneteenth despite it being in existence for over 150 years and celebrated within the African American community. With such infancy, there are undoubetedly a number of issues that still need to be addressed and its these that I address as I share my hopes for Juneteenth not only for this year, but also moving forward. -- This episode is a pause to ponder segment. These biweekly sessions will allow me to share with you my personal thoughts and reflections on a wide spectrum of topics as they relate to education. It is my hope that you will be able to take something from these segments and apply it in a meaningful way as you continue to do amazing work. Remember, while we all have different roles, we all have a single job, educating our students. -- I want to thank you for listening to The Counter Narrative Podcast. If you like what you are hearing, please be sure to like, subscribe, and of course share it with friends and family. I'd also love to hear your thoughts about the show so please leave a comment or two as well. I'm not sure what platform you're using but the show can be found on Anchor, Google Podcasts, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and plenty of other platforms. If the show isn't on your preferred site, let me know and I'll be sure to get it up and running. This podcast is also featured on SchoolRubric.com, where you can find educational articles, videos, and interviews with educators from around the globe. Be sure to connect with me and other listeners by following the show on Twitter at @theCNpodcast and joining the show's Facebook Group. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/thecounternarrative/support
Welcome to a special combined episode of Conceptually Speaking. This week Kayla and I linked up with Charles Williams, host of the Counter Narrative Podcast and a K-8 principal in the Greater Chicago Episode. Our dialogue is a free-flowing conversation exploring everything from seeking our educational purpose in turbulent times to the importance of asset-based instruction to the hit show Abbot Elementary. It was a beautiful reminder that shared dialogue with other educators with common goals and values can be sustaining and motivating. We hope you walk away from this episode with a similar feeling.
The Counter Narrative: Changing the Way We Talk (and think) About Education
Welcome to the Counter Narrative Podcast, a show designed to change the way we talk, and think, about education. By sharing stories of successes and triumphs, we aim to challenge the dominant narrative that often negatively portrays our disenfranchised populations. I'm your host, Charles Williams. An urban educator for more than 15 years, a current school principal in Chicago, an educational consultant, an equity advocate, and the co-host of Inside The Principal's Office. -- This episode is a podcast collaboration. Every once in a while, podcasters will team up and blend their two shows into one. Sometimes we trip over one another's feet but in the end it's a wonderful blend of our two spaces. In this episode, I chat with Trevor Aleo and Kayla Duncan of Conceptually Speaking. If you haven't heard their show, and you like what you hear today, be sure to check them out on nearly every platform where podcasts are found. For this show, we blended our two show's formats by each bringing 3-5 concepts that we believe are critical while challenging the negative narratives that often permeate our educational spaces. From identifying and grounding ourselves in our purpose to being intentional about the work that we're doing so that it is in alignment to focusing on the assets that our students and peers bring to the table, we explore the various facets that need to be in place for us to push back and begin flipping the script. Ready for two shows in one? Let's go. Connect with Conceptually Speaking Click here to check out their podcast Click here to check out their website -- I want to thank you for listening to The Counter Narrative Podcast. If you like what you are hearing, please be sure to like, subscribe, and of course share it with friends and family. I'd also love to hear your thoughts about the show so please leave a comment or two as well. I'm not sure what platform you're using but the show can be found on Anchor, Google Podcasts, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and plenty of other platforms. If the show isn't on your preferred site, let me know and I'll be sure to get it up and running. This podcast is also featured on SchoolRubric.com, where you can find educational articles, videos, and interviews with educators from around the globe. Be sure to connect with me and other listeners by following the show on Twitter at @theCNpodcast and joining the show's Facebook Group. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/thecounternarrative/support
The Counter Narrative: Changing the Way We Talk (and think) About Education
Welcome to the Counter Narrative Podcast, a show designed to change the way we talk, and think, about education. By sharing stories of successes and triumphs, we aim to challenge the dominant narrative that often negatively portrays our disenfranchised populations. I'm your host, Charles Williams. An urban educator for more than 15 years, a current school principal in Chicago, an educational consultant, an equity advocate, and the co-host of Inside The Principal's Office. -- This episode is a pause to ponder segment. These biweekly sessions will allow me to share with you my personal thoughts and reflections on a wide spectrum of topics as they relate to education. It is my hope that you will be able to take something from these segments and apply it in a meaningful way as you continue to do amazing work. Remember, while we all have different roles, we all have a single job, educating our students. -- "Be a man!" "Stop being such a girl!" "Real men don't cry!" These toxic messages have been repeated time and time again to our young men and yet we wonder why they continue to struggle. During this episode I share some personal connections to these comments and disclose some of my past while imploring listeners to reconsider how we approach our young men who are experiencing mental health issues. -- I want to thank you for listening to The Counter Narrative Podcast. If you like what you are hearing, please be sure to like, subscribe, and of course share it with friends and family. I'd also love to hear your thoughts about the show so please leave a comment or two as well. I'm not sure what platform you're using but the show can be found on Anchor, Google Podcasts, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and plenty of other platforms. If the show isn't on your preferred site, let me know and I'll be sure to get it up and running. This podcast is also featured on SchoolRubric.com, where you can find educational articles, videos, and interviews with educators from around the globe. Be sure to connect with me and other listeners by following the show on Twitter at @theCNpodcast and joining the show's Facebook Group. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/thecounternarrative/support
The Counter Narrative: Changing the Way We Talk (and think) About Education
Welcome to the Counter Narrative Podcast, a show designed to change the way we talk, and think, about education. By sharing stories of successes and triumphs, we aim to challenge the dominant narrative that often negatively portrays our disenfranchised populations. I'm your host, Charles Williams. An urban educator for more than 15 years, a current school principal in Chicago, an educational consultant, an equity advocate, and the co-host of Inside The Principal's Office. -- In this episode, I chat with Anurupa Ganguly, the Founder & CEO of Prisms, a VR learning platform that teaches foundational secondary math and science concepts spatially and intuitively, before building up to symbolic notation. She began her career as a math & physics teacher and later served in leadership roles across the Boston Public Schools, NYC DOE, and Success Academies. She holds a BS and MEng in EECS from MIT, and an EdM from BU. During our conversation, Anurupa explained her journey through education and how that inspired her to start a company that allows students to digitally immerse themselves into mathematical concepts through VR. Imagine how impactful and powerful it would be to shift from learning exponential rate of change on worksheets to being involved in a pandemic simulator calculating the spread of an unknown disease. Anurupa also pushed back on the idea that the limited access we often associate with such products is due to budgets and funding (consider the mass amounts of funding schools have received during the past two years) and other excuses that do little more than maintain the gaps that we see in opportunities. This is a powerful conversation that I wish I could have released immediately after recording it so be sure to check out Prisms and see how you can bring this innovative technology to your own space. -- Prisms Website Prisms Twitter Anurupa Twitter Prisms LinkedIn Anurupa LinkedIn -- I want to thank you for listening to The Counter Narrative Podcast. If you like what you are hearing, please be sure to like, subscribe, and of course share it with friends and family. I'd also love to hear your thoughts about the show so please leave a comment or two as well. I'm not sure what platform you're using but the show can be found on Anchor, Google Podcasts, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and plenty of other platforms. If the show isn't on your preferred site, let me know and I'll be sure to get it up and running. This podcast is also featured on SchoolRubric.com, where you can find educational articles, videos, and interviews with educators from around the globe. Be sure to connect with me and other listeners by following the show on Twitter at @theCNpodcast and joining the show's Facebook Group. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/thecounternarrative/support
The Counter Narrative: Changing the Way We Talk (and think) About Education
Welcome to the Counter Narrative Podcast, a show designed to change the way we talk, and think, about education. By sharing stories of successes and triumphs, we aim to challenge the dominant narrative that often negatively portrays our disenfranchised populations. I'm your host, Charles Williams. An urban educator for more than 15 years, a current school principal in Chicago, an educational consultant, an equity advocate, and the co-host of Inside The Principal's Office. -- In this episode, I chat with Debbie Tannenbaum, an educator with over twenty years of experience, who works each and every day to “transform” learning using technology. During her time in education, she has served both as a classroom teacher in various grades and as an elementary technology coach. Outside of the classroom, Debbie promotes using technology tools to amplify student learning in her work as an educational technology consultant, author, blogger and speaker. You can connect with Debbie at TannenbaumTech.com. During our conversation, I asked the question that I am sure most tech experts hate, “what tech tool would you recommend for…”. As Debbie pointed out, this is not the ideal way to approach integrating technology into your classroom. Instead we should focus on the objective and the needs of our students and find a tool that matches. We also explored the various ways that technology can be used to propel students forward. If you simply replace your traditional approaches with updated tech, you're not necessarily going to see the gains that you anticipated. Debbie encourages teachers to instead think outside the box and embrace the opportunities that were not previously available as opposed to simple upgrades. Want to hear more from this tech guru? Let's go. -- I want to thank you for listening to The Counter Narrative Podcast. If you like what you are hearing, please be sure to like, subscribe, and of course share it with friends and family. I'd also love to hear your thoughts about the show so please leave a comment or two as well. I'm not sure what platform you're using but the show can be found on Anchor, Google Podcasts, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and plenty of other platforms. If the show isn't on your preferred site, let me know and I'll be sure to get it up and running. This podcast is also featured on SchoolRubric.com, where you can find educational articles, videos, and interviews with educators from around the globe. Be sure to connect with me and other listeners by following the show on Twitter at @theCNpodcast and joining the show's Facebook Group. Take care. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/thecounternarrative/support
The Counter Narrative: Changing the Way We Talk (and think) About Education
Welcome to the Counter Narrative Podcast, a show designed to change the way we talk, and think, about education. By sharing stories of successes and triumphs, we aim to challenge the dominant narrative that often negatively portrays our disenfranchised populations. I'm your host, Charles Williams. An urban educator for more than 15 years, a current school principal in Chicago, an educational consultant, an equity advocate, and the co-host of Inside The Principal's Office. -- This episode is a pause to ponder segment. These biweekly sessions will allow me to share with you my personal thoughts and reflections on a wide spectrum of topics as they relate to education. It is my hope that you will be able to take something from these segments and apply it in a meaningful way as you continue to do amazing work. Remember, while we all have different roles, we all have a single job, educating our students. -- What is one thing that you made smile in this past week? Was it work related? Was it personal? Was it both? So often we get caught up in doing school that we forget about the most important aspect of education - building relationships. We focus on compliance, on academic growth, on data. And because of this school can easily become a place where nobody wants to be. Its draining because it demands and expects but does little to give back ... to fulfill. This episode is designed to make you think about moments that bring joy even in the midst of chaos and frustration. I share how my students, along with some help from my staff, finally staged an April Fool's joke that worked. Instead of being upset, instead of reprimanding them, I laughed along with them. -- I want to thank you for listening to The Counter Narrative Podcast. If you like what you are hearing, please be sure to like, subscribe, and of course share it with friends and family. I'd also love to hear your thoughts about the show so please leave a comment or two as well. I'm not sure what platform you're using but the show can be found on Anchor, Google Podcasts, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and plenty of other platforms. If the show isn't on your preferred site, let me know and I'll be sure to get it up and running. This podcast is also featured on SchoolRubric.com, where you can find educational articles, videos, and interviews with educators from around the globe. Be sure to connect with me and other listeners by following the show on Twitter at @theCNpodcast and joining the show's Facebook Group. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/thecounternarrative/support