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In this episode of Conceptually Speaking, I sit down with Dr. Matt Seybold, host of the American Vandal podcast and scholar at the Center for Mark Twain Studies at Elmira College. Our conversation traverses the changing landscape of literary studies as it moves beyond traditional academic boundaries into digital spaces, revealing both new opportunities and persistent challenges in how we create and share knowledge. Dr. Seybold shares the origin story of American Vandal—born as a pandemic response when in-person programming was suspended—and how it evolved into a platform that builds relationships with scholars and reaches an unexpectedly global audience. Together, we explore the fascinating contradiction that while humanities departments face serious funding crises, public hunger for thoughtful literary and cultural analysis continues to flourish across platforms and borders.Key Concepts from the Episode:Democratizing Academic DiscourseHow podcasting allows scholars to communicate more naturally about complex ideasThe surprising global reach of academic content when freed from traditional constraintsWhy digital media complements but cannot replace forms of scholarship housed in academic institutionsDigital Media in Humanities EducationEngaging students with diverse media experiences across multiple platformsBalancing traditional written texts like articles and monographs with emerging forms of communicationUnderstanding the unique affordances of different media formats rather than creating hierarchiesBridging Academic & Public HumanitiesChallenging the "crisis in humanities" narrative by revealing genuine public interest in literary discourse despite decades of Ponzi austerity Distinguishing between institutional defunding and the persistent cultural appetite for humanistic inquiryPromoting authentic creative production through engagement with "real world" media genresOur conversation offers practical insights for educators, researchers, podcasters, and anyone interested in how literary scholarship evolves in the digital age. Dr. Seybold reminds us that despite institutional challenges, the humanities must continue to resist through rhetorical agility, media savvy, and (perhaps most importantly) organized political action. Check out more of Matt's work:The American Vandal PodcastCenter for Mark Twain StudiesSupport the show
In this thought-provoking episode, I sit down with Dr. Remi Kalir, the Associate Director of Faculty Development and Applied Research with Learning Innovation and Lifetime Education at Duke University, where he also serves as Associate Director of the Center for Applied Research and Design in Transformative Education. He has also completely revolutionized my thinking about annotation. As someone who was relatively ambivalent about annotations, Remi's perspective transformed me into a fan, believer, and enthusiastic practitioner. Our conversation challenges conventional wisdom about annotation, as Remi argues that we're all annotators, from the grandmother scribbling recipe modifications to fans dissecting Kendrick Lamar's lyrics on Genius. He also shares fascinating examples from his upcoming book "Re/Marks on Power" (MIT Press, 2025), including Harriet Tubman's previously unexamined annotations in pension files, protest markings on Confederate monuments, and how the US-Mexico border itself represents a form of annotation—a line drawn imprecisely on a map as an exercise of power.Key Concepts from the Episode:Annotation as a Social PracticeAnnotation is more than a reflection of individual comprehensionAnnotations have a "social life" that extends beyond the text and timeAnnotation is dialogic rather than an isolated literacy actAnnotation as a Tool for CritiqueAnnotation serves as a tool for critique and challenging authorityAnnotation can circulate counter-narratives and resist dominant ideologiesE.g. Harriet Tubman's use of annotations on pension documentsAnnotation as an Embodied PracticeAnnotations can be embodied and geographic Protests and interventions on monuments represent forms of annotationDigital annotation practices are all over spaces like TikTok, Genius, etc.Particularly compelling is our discussion of annotation's unique affordances: its proximity to the original text, its capacity for "rough draft thinking," and its ability to make our responses visible to others across time and space. Remi invites us to see annotation not as an isolated comprehension check but as a dialogic practice with profound implications for critical literacy, social justice, and civic engagement. For educators struggling to make annotation meaningful beyond compliance, this episode offers both theoretical insights and practical inspiration to transform this everyday practice into something that can, as Remi says, "live, speak, and inspire."Re/Marks on Power (Newsletter)Re/Marks on Power (Book)Join me and socially annotate the transcription!Support the show
In this episode of Conceptually Speaking, I explore the evolving landscape of disciplinary literacy with three distinguished professors and teacher educators: Dr. Jacy Ippolito from Salem State University, Dr. Christina Dobbs from Boston University, and Dr. Megan Charner-Laird from Salem State University. Drawing from their collaborative work on the second edition of "Disciplinary Literacy Inquiry and Instruction," this conversation delves into how educators can authentically engage students in disciplinary literacies while challenging their traditional boundaries.Key Concepts from the Episode:Reimagining Disciplinary LiteracyMoving beyond traditional apprenticeship models to critique and expand disciplinary boundariesExamining whose norms and traditions shape disciplinary practicesExploring how students remix and reinvent ways of belonging in academic communitiesUnderstanding disciplinary literacy as both access and transformationCritical Inquiry and IdentitySupporting teachers in examining their own disciplinary identities and biasesCreating spaces for collaborative questioning and knowledge constructionEmbracing uncertainty and open-ended exploration in classroom discussionsConnecting personal passion for disciplines with student engagementPractical Implementation Across Grade LevelsExtending disciplinary literacy practices into elementary educationBalancing disciplinary practices with critique and remixFinding opportunities for change within existing curricular constraintsStarting with small but meaningful adjustments to existing practicesThe conversation highlights how disciplinary literacy can reignite both teachers' and students' love for learning when approached through a critical, inquiry-driven lens. The authors share practical insights for educators while acknowledging the complex challenges of implementing these approaches within current educational structures. Their discussion emphasizes the importance of making space for joy, authenticity, and student voice in disciplinary learning.Whether you're a classroom teacher, educational researcher, or interested in the evolution of literacy practices, this episode offers valuable perspectives on creating critical and culturally sustaining ecologies of disciplinary learning. The authors demonstrate how educators can provide access to powerful academic discourses while opening new possibilities for student engagement and knowledge creation.Disciplinary Literacy Inquiry & Instruction (2nd edition)Critical Disciplinary Literacy: An Equity-Driven and Culturally Responsive Approach to Disciplinary Learning and TeachingSupport the show
In this episode of Conceptually Speaking, I sit down with Dr. Annie Abrams, author of Short Changed: How Advanced Placement Cheats American Students, to explore the complex relationship between policy, pedagogy, and the purpose of English education in America. Our conversation weaves between critiques of AP's corporatization of liberal arts education and deeper questions about what it means to teach literature meaningfully. Annie and I wrestle with how institutional forces shape (and often constrain) the rich interpretive practices and humanizing ethos that make English teaching worthwhile.Key Concepts from the Episode:Corporate MediationAP's shift from facilitating teacher-professor collaboration to prescribing standardized curriculumThe "AP brand" becoming synonymous with rigor while potentially undermining authentic liberal arts experiencesSpaces of/for Literary DiscourseLack of institutional support for teachers to engage deeply with texts and scholarshipDisconnect between growing public appetite for literary criticism and classroom spacesVision for ChangeDrawing on Ralph Ellison to balance critique with hope for the American project Need to move beyond standardized frameworks to build sustainable communities of practice with institutional supportFor teachers wrestling with their own relationship to AP or seeking ways to cultivate more meaningful literary experiences in their classrooms, this conversation offers both validation and vision for what might be possible. While we may not have all the answers, the episode demonstrates the value of creating spaces where we can explore these questions together.Check out more of Annie's work here:Short Changed (book)Teaching Ellison (article)Show Information:My SiteMy SubstackMusic Credit:Infraction - No Copyright MusicSupport the show
For this episode I'm joined by friend of the show Rod Naquin, a Louisiana based education leader and doctoral student whose research and writing explores the intersection between dialogue, learning, and large language models. Drawing on thinkers and theories from his research, Rod invites educators to stop viewing artificial intelligence as a completionist tool or sentient machine and instead regard it as a new form of dialogic computing. His articulation of LLMs challenges common perceptions of AI as merely a productivity tool, instead proposing a more interactive, discourse-driven approach to using language models in educational settings.Rod offers concrete examples of how educators can apply this approach, emphasizing AI's potential as an analytical partner rather than an omniscient source. He advocates for a nuanced approach that leverages AI's capabilities while preserving essential human elements in the learning process. This episode provides valuable insights for educators, researchers, and anyone interested in the future of AI in education. Key concepts explored in this episode:Dialogic Computing: Reframing AI interactions as collaborative dialogues rather than simple input-output exchangesParadigm Shifts: Examining parallels between historical communication changes and current AI-driven transformationsPost-Literacy: Considering the emergence of an era where AI-mediated text takes on speech-like qualitiesDynamic Equilibrium: Balancing AI assistance with human comprehension and critical thinkingAffordances and Constraints: Understanding the capabilities and limitations of AI in educational contextsIn addition to his research on dialogue, Rod has deep expertise in high-quality instructional materials and hosts The Science of Dialogue podcast. A husband and father of twins, he resides in Bayou Gauche. You can find Rod on Twitter/X.com as @rodjnaquin and read his writings at rodjnaquin.substack.com.Support the Show.
To say we're living through a moment of education polarization would be a mild understatement. Considering the digital echo chambers we all find ourselves in, I believe it's more important than ever to engage with people who may move in different circles and have different perspectives, but share some foundational beliefs about democracy, wisdom, and advancing the public good. My guest this week is Dr. Ashley Rogers Berner—and she was the perfect person for just such an exchange. As the director of and professor for John Hopkin's Institute for Educational Policy, she is well versed in the history of educational policy both in the states and abroad. One of the more compelling parts of our dialogue was Dr. Berner's insight into the way many European systems fund and operate their schools. In fact, her comparative research serves as the basis for the fairly unique, heterodox views on educational policy explored in her recent book: Educational Pluralism and Democracy. Though we have contrasting thoughts on a number of pedagogical approaches and policy prescriptions, Ashley was a generous interlocuter who shares my love for the Humanities, pluralism, and the fledgling project of American democracy. Considering I don't have too many policy conversations on the podcast, I think I learned more in this episode than in most others I've recorded. I hope you find it as informative and thought provoking as I do.Dr. Ashley Rogers Burner's Faculty PageEducational Pluralism and Democracy: How to Handle Indoctrination, Promote Exposure, and Rebuild America's SchoolsSupport the Show.
One of the best things about attending conferences is the conversations, connections, and collaborations that emerge after the sessions are over. Last year, I was lucky to meet Dr. Andrea Gambino at NCTE 2023 in Columbus. Andrea earned her Ph.D. in Education from UCLA in 2023 and is an active co-organizer of the annual Critical Media Literacy Conference of the Americas. Her research and practice draws on her experiences implementing critical media literacy as a tool for advancing self, social, and environmental justice. The passion, sincerity, and depth of knowledge she brings to to her research and practice is incredible and made for a powerful conversation. One of the things that makes Andrea's research particularly unique is that, in addition to having a rich understanding of how to teach critical media literacy, her scholarship also considers the rich, embodied experiences of teachers wrestling with that work in their classrooms. Andrea is an incredibly engaging conversationalist and really got me fired up about ways we can support teachers and students efforts to better navigate the dumpster fire that is our current political discourse and media ecosystem. There's much to learn, so enjoy!UCLA's Critical Media Literacy GuideDr. Gambino's LinkedInSupport the show
The emergence of ChatGPT has sent shockwaves through many secondary and post-secondary English departments. There's no shortage of doomsaying and prognosticating about the future of writing instruction, even the discipline itself, in the wake of the large language model revolution. Luckily for us, my guest today is Dr. J Palmeri—Professor of English and Director of the Writing Program at Georgetown University. J's work exploring the past, present, and future of multimodal composition is some of the richest, most comprehensive scholarship I've seen. Better still, J practices what they preach in the classroom. Over the course of our dialogue, J details the ways they use new media pedagogy to learn with students, embrace play, compose for real audiences, hack technology, center learning, and ultimately to rethink teaching and learning. There is no shortage of philosophical questions and practical suggestions, but my favorite part of this episode is the way J situates his work on multimodality within a broader story—one that will likely resonate with many of you. This episode is a powerful reminder of why technology is only a tool. Whether that technology is tactile, digital, or artificial intelligence, there is no replacing the deeply human parts of teaching, learning, and communicating alongside others.Faculty Page100 Years of New Media Pedagogy (Open Source Book)Academic Research (Google Scholar)Support the show
For anyone who's been tuned into Conceptually Speaking for a while, you know I love finding new approaches, perspectives, and frames to tackle complex issues. Despite the fact that's a staple on the show, my guest for this episode, Dr. Sheena Mason, takes things to the next level. Dr. Mason is an author, professor, and creator of the theory of racelenss. A theory that, in her words, is a creative and forward-thinking approach that helps people stop the underlying causes and effects of racism—the existence of race itself. Unlike naturalists, who see race as biological, or constructionists, who regard race as a social construction, Dr. Mason invites readers to become race skeptics—in other words—to understand that what traits we attribute to race, can be more accurately described by terms like ethnicity, culture, social class, and economic class. For, as she argues in her upcoming book, The Raceless Antiracist, fighting racism by reifying the idea of race is like trying to stop a flood by dousing it with water. In short, Dr. Mason envisions a future that transcends race in ways that allow us to celebrate our shared humanity AND value our many differences. Building on sociologists like Karen and Barba Fields, authors like Toni Morrison and James Baldwin, as well as a bevy of literary scholars and critics, Dr. Mason's work is paradigm-shifting work. So! Hold onto your brains, listen with an open mind, and brace yourself for a very different look at antiracism work. Note: The introduction contains some direct verbiage from the "Racelessness: The Final Frontier" graphic essay.https://www.theoryofracelessness.org/https://twitter.com/SheenaMasonPhDThe core rules of the theory of racelessness or raceless antiracism are as follows: Our belief in “race” and practice of racialization are not meaningless, because racism and valuable aspects of humanity hide behind what we call “race.” “Race” does not exist in nature for humans or as a social construction. Although we are all racialized by ourselves and others, we are raceless. Race/ism (i.e., racism) is a system of economic and social oppression that requires the belief in “race” and the practice of racialization to subsequently reinforce various power imbalances. Racialization is the process of applying an inescapable social hierarchy—race/ism—along with its attendant power imbalances. Racism does not exist everywhere in the same way and can be overcome.Support the show
Complaining about the theory-practice divide in education feels a bit cliche, but there's a reason why it's a constant source of conversation and consternation in classrooms, conferences, and academic journals. As someone with their feet firmly planted in both worlds, I'm always excited to connect with other educators who can bridge that divide—and my guest today is an exceptional example of just such a person. Shawna Coppola is a literacy specialist, educator, and author of the recently released Literacy for All: A Framework for Anti-Oppressive Teaching from Routledge. Shawna's framework is a pretty incredible distillation of a lot of literacy scholarship that informs my work, research, and conversations on this podcast. Our conversation today walks through each of its key principles, and while it's an expansive dialogue, Shawna's commitment to more liberatory approaches to literacy teaching is a throughline across the episode. Whether you're a classroom teacher, administrator, or a professor working with pre-service teachers, this episode has a ton to offer. Enjoy! https://shawnacoppola.com/ Literacy for All: A Framework for Anti-Oppressive Teaching Support the show
According to the late Octavia Butler, ”God is Change and in the end, God prevails.” Though Butler passed in 2006, her words resonate deeper than ever. And while she's no longer able to chart out fantastical journeys across the stars, the philosophy that structures her work is one of the principle inspirations for adrienne marie brown's book, Emergent Strategy. I won't try to define the scope of Emergent Strategy in my introduction, but at its essence, it's an orientation, stance, framework, and spellbook for organizing and facilitating change. My guest this week, Jeffrey Austin, is a literacy consultant with Wayne, RESA in South East Michigan, has been using adrienne marie brown's work to facilitate team meetings, structure professional learning, and support educators across his district. It takes us the whole of the episode to unearth what emergent strategy is and how it might look in an educational context, but Jeffrey's brilliant explanations and examples were incredibly powerful and tangible. In fact I think this might be one of my most useful episodes yet for educational leaders and organizers. There are a number of reasons for this, but principle among those is the fact that Jeffrey doesn't just offer platitudes about changing educational systems. He embodies it. If my intro has you curious, consider this episode your primer for diving into the world of Emergent Strategy. Enjoy!Jeffrey's BlogEmergent Strategy (Book)Literacy Essentials: Disciplinary Literacy (6-12)Support the show
What if I told you there's a magical place where young people spend hours upon hours discussing, sharing, creating, and theorizing about their favorite books? What if I told you that place was TikTok? Or, more specifically, a corner of TikTok known as BookTok. Well, that's what this week's episode is all about. My guest this week is Dr. Sarah Jerasa, Assistant Professor of Literacy at Clemson University in the Department of Education and Human Development. In addition to being a friend of the show and fellow member of the Writing and Literacies Special Interest Group, Sarah is currently researching the impact of BookTok on reading, writing, and creating content about literature. Far from being a random trending topic or flash-in-the-pan hashtag, the discourse on BookTok has already proven to have a major impact on the publishing industry and features millions of book lovers connecting over their most loved and loathed books. Considering the popularity and influence digital spaces have on literacy practices, Sarah believes (and I agree) it's high time English teachers begin to consider how we can expand “what counts” as literacy in academic spaces. Even if you have no idea what a "For You Page" is or is generally anti-social media, this episode still has some worthwhile food for thought about the relationship between academic literacies, youth literacies, and the future of English Language Arts.https://www.sarahjerasa.com/https://twitter.com/saraheconroyBookTok 101: TikTok, Digital Literacies, and Out-of-School Reading PracticesSupport the show
This week I'm lucky enough to be in dialogue with two educators and authors whose work I've admired for quite some time. Rebekah O'Dell is a classroom teacher and author of Writing with Mentors and Beyond Literary Analysis and Matthew Johnson a high school English teacher and author of Flash Feedback. In addition to being dynamic teachers and insightful authors, they also design powerful professional learning experiences for fellow educators. In fact, this summer they, alongside friend of the show Angela Stockman, launched a new venture called Camp Rewrite: A digital campfire where English teachers across the country can gather to view PD videos from Rebekah, Matt, Angela, and a slew of other fantastic voices in the ELA world. It's a fantastic example of how professional learning can be more authentic, non-hierarchical, and participatory. However, our conversation will go beyond this one event! More broadly, this is a dialogue asking big questions about the future of post-COVID pedagogy, professional learning, and even the discipline of English. Enjoy!Links:camprewrite.substack.comRebekah's TwitterRebekah's SiteMatthew's WebsiteMatthew's TwitterPlease consider supporting the show by becoming an official subscriber!https://www.buzzsprout.com/1073776/supportSupport the show
There's no shortage of authors, consultants, and coaches discussing the importance of culture when it comes to learning, especially literacy learning. However, I can't think of any that brings the same level of depth, nuance, and accessibility to that work as this week's guest. Nawal Qarooni is a literacy coach, writer, specialist in family literacy, and author of the forthcoming book Nourishing Caregiver Collaborations: Exalting Home Experiences and Classroom Practices for Collective Care. Nawal's work invites readers to think expansively about how we define students, families, and literacies. As you'll soon hear, she doesn't talk about culture like it's a buzzword or checklist, but rather like a journalist or ethnographic researcher.As our schools continue to service increasingly diverse peoples with a range of identities, languages, and literacy practices Nawal's work becomes all the more vital. Moreover, it's arriving at a time where many of the ideas and approaches related to Equity work in education are either being politicized out of existence or turned into anodyne products and programs to be purchased and consumed instead of embodied and enacted. Rest assured, Nawal's work is the real deal. Enjoy!https://twitter.com/NQCLiteracyNQC LiteracyNourishing Caregiver Collaborations: Exalting Home Experiences and Classroom Practices Support the show
This week on Conceptually Speaking, I had the pleasure of chatting with fellow teacher and friend of the show, Garreth Heidt. For those of you who haven't had the pleasure of crossing paths with Garret on Twitter, he teaches sophomore English as well as an innovation and social entrepreneurship class called NOVA lab at Perkiomen Valley High School. I met him in the days of teacher Twitter yore before COVID, culture wars, and Elon Musk took the shine off the place. As you'll be able to tell by our dialogue, Garreth is the sort of veteran teacher who has been blazing trails folks are only now discovering. Our wide-ranging dialogue, which bounces from post-modernism to ChatGPT to The Good Life perfectly encapsulates the depth and breadth of his knowledge as well as his heartfelt commitment to more meaningful education. This episode feels like the exact sort of existential, reflective conversation teachers need to have (or listen to!) after the last few years of mayhem. I hope you enjoy.Garreth's Personal BlogThe NOVA Lab Blog
Lately, it feels like the world is both literally and figuratively on fire. As a mere English teacher researcher and content creator, there are times when feel kind of powerless in the throes of political upheaval, culture wars, and social unrest. I've always believed English class is a place where students can cultivate the wisdom and discernment needed to create a more just, liberatory future, but I always wish I could do more. Luckily, last summer I stumbled upon the work of Dr. Mark Bracher, an English professor at Kent State University and the author of Literature, Social Wisdom, and Global Justice: Developing Systems Thinking Through Literary Study. Dr. Bracher's research leverages the latest scholarship from cognitive and neuroscience to develop a systems thinking approach to literary studies that fosters four key cognitive functions: causal analysis, prospection, social cognition, and metacognition. Through the cultivation of these practices, Bracher believes (and I agree) students can cultivate skills and habits of mind that allow them to not only recognize the social injustices within our social, political, and ecological systems but intervene with wisdom, discernment, and empathy. Many of you who know me personally, know I read a lot of books about education. I'm nerdy like that. So trust me when I say, this is one of the most compelling books on English teaching I've encountered in a very long time.Dr. Bracher's websiteDr. Bracher's published worksAmerican Dream(ing) Project Overview (10th-grade unit I co-designed based on Bracher's work)
How often do you find yourself wanting to hit pause in your curriculum? To slow down and notice more deeply? Read more closely? Maybe even engage in some playful fun? Like most teachers, there are times when I find myself sprinting through the next novel or text set, slipping back into the grips of covering material instead of exploring it. Luckily, my guest today is Brett Vogelsinger, a 9th-grade English Teacher in Doylestown PA author of Poetry Pauses: Teaching With Poems To Elevate Student Writing in All Genres, and a contributing author to Moving Writers. As his book title would suggest, poetry pauses are his specialty, and there are few other teachers I know who are as good at integrating poetry into his curriculum in meaningful, intentional, and powerful ways. Our conversation is a deep dive into the pedagogy of teaching poetry Brett has plenty to share about the powerful ways poetic forms can lead to playful and powerful learning. After hanging out with Brett at NCTE this year, I knew he'd be a great podcast guest. As you'll soon learn, he didn't disappoint. Enjoy!https://brettvogelsinger.com/https://30gopoems.blogspot.com/
As melodramatic as it may seem, I'll never forget the first time I encountered The New London Group's A Pedagogy of Multiliteracies: Designing Social Futures. After an evening of mindless scrolling in the summer of 2016, I clicked on a fortuitous Facebook post from a fellow English teacher. As I read I became increasingly enraptured. It felt inspiring. It felt fresh. It felt innovative. I assumed it was cutting-edge research. Then I saw the publication date. 1996. Reading that publication date made it abundantly clear educational practice had fallen well behind educational scholarship. It's a disconnect I notice more and more as I move through my own dissertation. It's also a lament shared by my esteemed guests. This week I was joined by Dr. Troy Hicks professor of English and Education at Central Michigan University and the Director of the Chippewa River Writing Project and his co-author, Dr. Kristen Hawley Turner: Professor of education at Drew University and director of the Drew Writing Project. Our discussion is coming hot on the heels of their recent publication Digital Literacy (Still) Can't Wait: Four Questions to Reframe the Conversation around Technology in the English Classroom, a follow-up to their 2013 publication No Longer a Luxury: Digital Literacy Can't Wait. Though I'm sure they wish such clarion calls weren't still necessary, I'm thankful for scholars like them who continue to fight the good fight to bring powerful ideas to practitioners and pose poignant questions about how we use technology in our classrooms. Whether you're a techno-skeptic or ed-tech enthusiast, Kristen and Troy's four questions are an invitation for us to use technology in more transformative ways. Enjoy! Resources:An Interconnected Framework for Assessment of Digital Multimodal CompositionDr. Troy Hicks' Twitter Dr. Kristen Turner's Twitter
According to cognitive linguist and philosopher George Lakoff, “The essence of metaphor is understanding and experiencing one kind of thing in terms of another.” And that is what today's episode is all about. On this week's episode, I'm joined by Matthew Slocombe, a secondary school teacher specializing in educational design and technology and a doctoral student and researcher at the Center for Educational Neuroscience. Matt's research interests relate to the development of children's reasoning and the role of conceptual change and transfer in analogical reasoning. Matt and I connected during the early days of COVID while I was working on Learning that Transfers with Julie, Krista, and Kayla and he put us on to some fantastic research into the role of analogical reasoning in conceptual change and learning transfer. And, much to my joy, he helped us realize analogies are so much more than fanciful things used by poets: they are the essence of how we make meaning. So, get ready to accommodate and assimilate some new knowledge into your pre-existing schema and let's begin. Center for Educational NeuroscienceAnalogical Minds YouTube Channel
When you reflect back on your most recent professional learning in-service days, what springs to mind? Rich educational experiences filled with meaningful learning? Or cringey icebreakers, one-size-fits-all lectures, and flavor-of-the-month fluff? Based on the research shared in this episode, the vast majority of teachers lean towards the latter. This is a problem that Chris McNutt and Nick Covington, former teachers and current directors of the educational non-profit Human Restoration Project know too well. That's why are developing ways to do professional learning WITH educators and not to them.In this episode, we'll hear more about HRP's mission to inform, guide, and grow more humanizing educational systems. More specifically, we'll be deep-diving into ways they design and provide purpose-driven professional growth opportunities inside and outside of school.https://www.humanrestorationproject.org/
Picture this: A group of passionate fans is huddled around their devices. Their favorite outlet has just dropped the latest response to a hotly contested article that has divided their community. As the group reads through, they debate, discuss, inquire, and post in their chosen social network. They make reference to other similar works, cite compelling evidence, and have different perspectives on the future direction of their community. Now, what kind of community did you have in mind during this scene? Were you imagining a group of teens debating the latest controversy from The Real Housewives or Keeping Up With the Kardashians? Or what about a group of literary scholars discussing a new interpretation that challenges the consensus on a canonical texts? What if it was referring to both? That might surprise you, but it's an overlap that's incredibly familiar to our guest this week—Assistant Professor of ELA Education and SUNY Empire State College, Dr. Karis Jones. Dr. Jones is a self-styled acafan activist studying the interpretive and discursive practices that happen in fandom spaces. Like me, she believes this broadening of how we conceptualize literacy can have transformative implications for how we frame and teach the discipline. So, whether you're a literary scholar, Marvel Movie fan, or K-Pop enthusiast, this episode has much to offer. Enjoy! Follow Karis on TwitterCheck out her website here
What comes to mind when you hear the word YouTube? Depending on your age and level of “online-ness” it might be anything from cat videos, to videogame steams, to TedTalks. But what about sociology? Philosophy? Cultural studies and critical theory? What if I told you were are enthusiasts, graduate students, and tenured professors producing accessible and insightful video essays with all the intellectual heft of a published journal article? And that they're getting hundreds of thousands of views? That's what today's episode is all about–finding the intersection between scholarly pursuits, multimodal composition, and the wild west of web 2.0. Joining me on this conversational adventure is one of my personal favorite YouTubers, the man, the myth–F.D Signifier. A teacher and ABD sociology student turned YouTuber, F.D has north of 350 thousand subscribers and 12 MILLION views. For those of you who aren't hip to YouTube–that is A LOT. Enough that producing video essays and digital content is now his full-time gig. Luckily for us, he was generous enough to stop by and share how he leverages his training as a social scientist to create accessible, nuanced, and seriously entertainment videos exploring topics ranging from Black Masculinity to Bridgerton. Whether you're a zealous believer in critical media literacy or a reticent skeptic, this conversation has so much to offer. F.D's has an inspirational level of commitment to his craft, but also doesn't shy away from sharing the potential pitfalls of micro-celebrity and cultural analysis as edutainment. Get ready to like/comment/subscribe… and enjoy this episode. F.D's YouTube Channel
Have you ever shot off an angry email or text message and immediately regret it? Or have you ever wondered why it's better to hash out disagreements in person instead of by email? Despite its ubiquitous nature, written communication is the lifeblood of complex modern institutions. Seriously. How we communicate in print can make or break an organization's culture and productivity. So, in an effort to better understand the power of the written word, this week, Julia and I dig deep into the cognitive and social neuroscience behind written communication. Guiding us on this conversational journey is author, entrepreneur, and former scientist, Rob Ashton. His course, Silent Influence, pretty much blew both our minds, so we were eager to dive into this conversation. Continuing the Conceptually Speaking tradition–Rob's message peels back the layers of misconception and pseudoscience and captures the true complexity of communication. Hold onto your socially situated brains, friends, because this was a fantastic episode.Rob's websiteSilent Influence Course
Joseph Jones and TJ Vari are authors, speakers, and district administrators who have written four books together. Their most recent publication, Retention for a Change: Motivate, Inspire, and Energize Your School Culture, details targeted strategies for motivating, inspiring, and energizing educators in a variety of settings.Virtual Masterclass on Compassionate FeedbackTechnical Tip: Praise Practice--A Model for Specific Praise
Graham Fletcher has served in education as a classroom teacher, math instructional lead, and currently as a math specialist. His work with the math progressions and problem-based lessons has led him to present throughout North America and beyond.Graham is continually advocating for best practice in elementary mathematics by seeking new and innovative ways to support students and teachers in their development of conceptual understanding. He is the author of Building Fact Fluency: A Toolkit for Addition and Subtraction.Twitter: @gfletchyFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/gfletchy/“All of us are smarter than one of us.” – Graham Fletcher
Zoe Weil (pronounced “Zoh While”) is the co-founder and president of the Institute for Humane Education (IHE), and is considered a pioneer in the comprehensive humane education movement. Zoe created IHE's M.Ed., M.A. and graduate certificate programs, as well as IHE's acclaimed humane education and MOGO (most good) workshops. Zoe is the author of seven books including Amazon #1 Best Seller in Philosophy and Social Aspects of Education, The World Becomes What We Teach: Educating a Generation of Solutionaries (2021/2016) She has also written numerous articles on humane education and humane living and has appeared frequently on radio as well as television.Zoe writes for Psychology Today where you can read her blog Becoming a Solutionary.
Welcome to a special combined episode of Conceptually Speaking. This week Kayla and I linked up with Charles Williams, host of the Counter Narrative Podcast and a K-8 principal in the Greater Chicago Episode. Our dialogue is a free-flowing conversation exploring everything from seeking our educational purpose in turbulent times to the importance of asset-based instruction to the hit show Abbot Elementary. It was a beautiful reminder that shared dialogue with other educators with common goals and values can be sustaining and motivating. We hope you walk away from this episode with a similar feeling.
What a school year this has been. Educators across the country (and the world) have navigated yet another year of teaching under COVID. Worse still, many American teachers, administrators, and district staff have found themselves in the crosshairs of culture warriors and political opportunists. There have, and continue to be baseless book bans, draconian policy proposals, and astroturfed conspiracies about nefarious and ideologically charged curricula. Amidst the chaos, it's not exactly a secret many teachers are not well and are leaving the profession in unprecedented numbers. Though there have been well-intentioned gestures at promoting well-being in many districts—solving our current raft of problems will take more than breathwork and yoga mats. It will require systemic change, of course, and we've spoken a lot about that on Conceptually Speaking but our guest this week, Dr. Adam Saenz is here to discuss the messy individual journey of self-actualization. Adam earned his Ph.D. in School Psychology from Texas A&M University with clinical training at Harvard Medical School. He completed his post-doctorate in Clinical Psychology from the Alpert Medical School of Brown University. He also earned a Doctorate of Ministry in Pastoral Counseling from the Graduate Theological Foundation with residency at Christ Church College of Oxford University. He is currently the CEO of Applied EQ Group.AppliedEQ GroupTwitter
Join Julie Stern and Mihai Catrinar on this week's episode as they chat with mental health specialist, consent workshop facilitator, and international school counselor, Cheryl-Ann Weekes. Her organization, Weekes Enterprise, LLC, was created as a way to provide workshops for counselors and educators to equip them with the tools to have mental health, consent, and boundary conversations with their students. They also conduct workshops for students in schools, community programs, churches, and non-profit organizations.Connect with Cheryl-AnnWebsiteTwitterLinkedinInstagram
Karine Veldhoen, M.Ed., is the founder of Learn Forward™ and a creative force in education. As Chief Learning Officer at Willowstone Academy she created the first model Learn Forward™ school while simultaneously Founding and serving as Executive Director of Niteo Africa. She's taught Teacher Candidates at both UBC-O and UNBC and served as an education consultant for Fresh Grade. In all of her roles, she considers herself a modern-day pilgrim who stands for Equity, Diversity, and Inclusion. In this episode, she chats with Julie and Kayla about LeanForward
This week on Conceptually Speaking science lead Julia Briggs and I are joined by the CEO and Founder of Organize Binder, Mitch Weathers. Mitch's experience as an educator, department chair, and coach has provided ample opportunities for him to see the difference between students who have a clarity of purpose and sense of agency and those who feel lost in the swirling chaos of bells, lectures, and homework assignments. Through a combination of firsthand experience and diligent research, Mitch founded Organized Binder in 2005 as a way to create systems and routines to help students hone academic skills and executive functions like personal goal setting and time management. They are the types of skills many teachers are struggling to foster in their classrooms as students return to school, and more importantly, they're the skills students need to reclaim or claim for the first time, a sense of agency in their learning. Though there are myriad systemic and structural problems facing education that must be tackled, there are also some simple, but powerful, steps educators can make in the interim to better equip students to navigate their academic journey. Our conversation with Mitch about his Organized Binder system sounds like it could be a great place to start.https://organizedbinder.com/https://organizedbinder.com/products/https://twitter.com/organizedbinder
This week on Conceptually Speaking I'm joined by Joe Schmidt and our very own Nichelle Pinkney—coauthors of the upcoming book Civil Discourse: Classroom Conversations for Stronger Communities from Corwin Press. With the current state of our dumpster fire national discourse, this book could not be coming at a better time. For posterity, at the time of recording this podcast, there are dozens of bills being drafted in state legislatures around the country attempting to censor any dialogue of so-called divisive concepts, historical injustices, and the fraught, complex nature of America's past. Now, more than ever, educators require reliable, research-based scaffolds and frameworks to foster the types of dialogue, discussion, and debate required to continue our shared democratic project. To that end, Joe and Nichelle's book details how to go about co-constructing classroom communities using the CUBED method to make that make civil discourse possible. It's no surprise that two humans who wrote a book about the nuances of productive conversation were such fantastic podcasts guests. Stay tuned for an informative and lively discussion about Civil Discourse.Link to Buy Civil DiscourseLink to Joe's WebsiteLink to Nichelle's LTT Bio
On this week's episode of Conceptually Speaking Elementary Lead Jess Mattei and I sit down with college professor turned content creator, Zoe Bee. While Zoe's eponymous YouTube channel is a cornucopia of videos on composition, culture, and education she recently released a video that was near and dear to my nerdy English Heart—Are the Classics Dead? A Professor Explains. Throughout the video Zoe dives headfirst into the fraught framing around literary canon; what is it? Why does it exist? What are the systemic and structural forces that shape it? I won't spoil the results, but it's the type of binary-busting nuance that we love. Our conversation goes beyond the content of one video though, as we explore the writing process, the shifting tides of English Studies, and the intersections between her work in academia and as a Youtuber. At the heart of Zoe's work and this episode though, is her deep passion for inquiry and ideas. As you'll likely be able to tell, Jess and I were incredibly amped for this episode and it didn't disappoint. Enjoy!Zoe's YouTube ChannelZoe's "Are the Classics Dead?" Video
Hello listeners. Conceptually Speaking is returning from its Holiday hiatus with an episode we've been itching to release. This week, Kayla joined Julie to have a conversation with Danny Bauer, author, podcast host, and the brain behind Mastermind—a coaching group and leadership development community. His recent book, Mastermind Unlocking Talent within Every School Leader is a fantastic book for anyone looking to upskill their capacity to serve and lead others. Danny's passion for supporting and sustaining the growth of educators—specifically leaders—that shines through the entire dialogue. It's clear he has devoted time and effort to cultivate his unique vision for effective leadership, quoting everyone from Seth Godin to Walt Whitman in under an hour ALL while sharing how he brought the Mastermind model to education. Danny's innovative approach and philosophy on leadership make for some compelling stories and actionable advice for anyone in educational leadership. We hope you enjoyhttps://www.betterleadersbetterschools.com/meet-daniel/https://www.amazon.com/Mastermind-Unlocking-Talent-Within-School/dp/1071837087
Joining me on this week's episode is our new Elementary Specialist, Jessica Mattei. Jess and I were lucky enough to chat with Dr. Miah Daughtery, Director of Literacy for NWEA and a powerful advocate for students' right to read and write. Over the course of our dialogue, Miah takes us through the rich tapestry of her career, sharing insight into her experiences leading initiatives focusing on everything from state-level curriculum projects to middle school yearbook programs. The obvious connective tissue between Dr. Daughtery's variety of educational entry points, though, is a clear devotion to student agency and empowerment. In addition to having some in-depth discussion around literacy practices and research, a special bonus of this episode is the wealth of practical advice shared about the right (and wrong!) ways to approach disciplinary literacy instruction in schools. Whether you're a teacher or superintendent, there's plenty here for you to enjoy!Follow Miah here! She is one of my favorite accounts on Twitter.
Our guest this week is Dr. Traci Scheepstra , CEO and co-founder of Embodied Learnings. Joining Julie this week is our effervescent elementary lead and resident chair yoga expert, Nathalie Lauriault. It's her first episode of Conceptually Speaking and we could think of no one better to join Tracy in a dialogue exploring the relationship between affect, embodiment, and education. Following a trend of some of our recent episodes, Dr. Scheepstra's message is one that invites and encourages us to take a step outside our current brain-bound conceptions of learning and consider all that is lost when we treat learners as though they're merely a brain in a vat. It's a conversation filled with practical tips and thought-provoking ideas, but the main through-line is how we can help students feel their learning, not just think about it. So, in the spirit of the episode, find a calm, quiet place to listen, close your eyes, and prepare to feel the conversational wisdom being weaved for the next fifty minutes.
In this week's episode of Conceptually Speaking, Julie and Kayla are joined by Kwame Sarfo-Mensa—mathematics teacher as well as Founder & CEO at Identity Talk Consulting. Throughout this powerful conversation, Kwame details his perspective on Belonging, Identity, and Authenticity—each of which is a foundational concept in the culturally sustaining pedagogy that anchors his teaching practice. As you'll soon discover, at the heart of Kwame's teaching practice lies a commitment to honoring and uplifting all students' identities in ways that allow them to bring their authentic selves to the classroom. Stay tuned for the rest of the episode to hear more about how you can leverage an asset-based approach to create an environment that liberates and educators students.
On this episode of Conceptually Speaking, Julie and I are joined by, the ineffable Annie Murphy Paul a writer covering science and cognition and the author of The Extended Mind: The Power of Thinking Outside the Brain. To say that Julie and I were excited about this episode would be a mild understatement. Both of us had ravenously consumed The Extended Mind prior to recording and were blown away at both its ambition and clarity. Over the course of her book, and this conversation, Annie details the power of what she calls extending our mind through practices like externalizing information, making abstractions tangible, spatializing information, and even using our bodies to make meaning. This ability to extend our mind challenges many of the deeply held myths about the separation of mind and body that have come to dominate the ways we conceive thinking, learning, and reductive notions of intelligence in Western Society. In fact, Annie's work even transformed her own beliefs about practices about thinking. So much of Annie's compiled research has immediate and tangible applications to education, aligning beautifully with our work with Learning that Transfers. As educators and researchers, her debunking of De Carte's error truly captured our imaginations. We hope the episode will do the same for you. Enjoy!Buy the Extended MindCheck out Annie Murphy Paul's WebsiteFollow her on Twitter
Dr. Mike Johnston from Frankfurt International School joins Julie and LTT's Science Lead Julia Briggs to discuss complexity, sustainability, systems, and authentic assessments.
Today's episode will be an exploration of reading, writing, and thinking rhetorically with author and professor Jennifer Fletcher. Jennifer's work as a high school English teacher, college professor, and chair of California State University's Expository Writing Curriculum steering committee speaks to her broad experience with and deep understanding of the discipline. Both her research and books focus on the power of rhetorical thinking to encourage students to transfer their understanding to new texts and situations. Joining Trevor this week is Language Acquisition lead, Erin Leininger. If you're looking for an episode that's all about fostering autonomy and agency in your composition classroom—you've come to the right place. Enjoy!
This week on Conceptually Speaking, Kayla and I chatted with podcaster, blogger, and creative aficionado, Betsy Potash. One of the many things I love about Betsy's work is its accessibility. Introducing new, more creative and dynamic frames for curriculum and instruction can be a challenge for many educators, but Betsy does an incredible job creating and curating resources that are approachable and scaffolded for educators AND students alike. One of my favorite parts about this episode was the amount of time we spent discussing modern forms of composition—of positioning things like podcasting, blogging, and video essays as viable and authentic modes of communication. Considering her massive email list and following on social media, Betsy knows full well the power of digital media. Betsy is a delightful guest with much to say about creativity and communication in the modern classroom. We hope you enjoy!
In this special reflection episode, Julie and Trevor share some of their favorite moments from Conceptually Speaking and discuss some exciting changes on the horizon. If you're new to the podcast, go back and check out some of the fantastic episodes we discussed. https://conceptuallyspeaking.buzzsprout.com/
This week on the show we are trying something new, Trevor and I are rotating co-hosting duties with our core team members from the Learning That Transfers team. This week features co-host Nichelle Pinkney, who is our social studies specialist and currently works as an instructional coach and curriculum specialist for a large school district in Texas. So this conversation was pretty special. We had two guests on to discuss diversity, equity, and inclusion, but it was really to me about the Black experience, and I personally learned so much. I’m still thinking about the concept of “validation” of different people’s experiences, different people’s views of what is professionalism, what is success, even what is possible. What was your big takeaway from our chat? What I loved is how they were so unapologetically black in a time when many fail to be. The idea that despite the historical oppression of blacks we have the opportunity to imagine new possibilities and unearth so many levels of potential through studying and celebrating black culture and ingenuity. I simply love the idea of imagining the type of reality, the type of community we can build, one that honors the inherent dignity and worth of every human being, one where all people are able to fully be who they truly are, one where people seldom use power to dominate or control other people’s lives. And this conversation was a great part of my personal journey in trying to help to bring that type of reality to life. We hope you enjoy.
Today’s episode of Conceptually Speaking features Michael Weingarth, founder of Pillars of Learning neuropsychological tutoring. In addition to his work creating personalized tutoring and test preparation programs for students, Michael has what I can only describe as an encyclopedic knowledge of all things science of learning related. In the few conversations we had leading up to the podcast, and during the podcast itself, I constantly found myself scribbling notes, book titles, and names of researchers I had to dig into. Our conversation today attempts to peel back the layers on a lot of the reductive and problematic assumptions that often accompany notions of learning and intelligence. It’s a great example of just how complex learning truly is and how much damage we can do when we attempt to flatten and quantify that complexity with faulty tools and instruments. In fact, the heart of Michael's work is focused on synthesizing and coordinating siloed perspectives, approaches, and domains of research to develop a more well-rounded understanding of how people learn. This episode is dense with resources, follower recommendations, and cutting-edge research, so grab a writing utensil and get ready to dive in. We hope you enjoy it.https://pillarsoflearning.com/
This week’s episode of Conceptually Speaking features educational researcher and school leader Brad Kershner. This was a special episode for me, as a few weeks prior to recording, I’d purchased his book Understanding Educational Complexity, and was absolutely blown away by its depth and clarity. I was thrilled when he agreed to join us. There are few people in the field who can parallel Brad’s ability to tend to both the micro and macro of education with his level of discernment and nuance. His book, and our dialogue, range from cultivating individual meditative practices to analyzing the thoughts, feelings, and emotions of school communities, to conceptualizing the ways modernity’s values and frames shape how we view the process of education. It is a sobering reminder that everyone, not just students, will need to embrace a journey of lifelong learning if we’re to develop the cognitive and cultural tools for our complex times. Despite the complexity involved and the ways we have to go, Brad’s message is one of hope. We were only able to scratch the surface of the ideas explored in his book, so we encourage you to check it out for yourself. A link, as well as information on his weekly meditation sessions, are in the show notes. Enjoy!Understanding Educational Complexity Brad’s Patreon
This week on Conceptually Speaking, Julie and I chatted with Dr. Tiffany Mitchell Patterson, an assistant professor of secondary social studies in the Department of Curriculum and Instruction/Literacy Studies at West Virginia University. Before entering into higher education Dr. Mitchell Patterson spent a decade teaching students in DC and Virginia about history, social justice, and activism. Her passion and expertise for these concepts is evident throughout our conversation and our dialogue is filled with insight about how to handle difficult, but vital classroom conversations about identity, power, and justice. One of the many things that Julie and I admire about Dr. T-Mitch-P’s work is her commitment to encouraging students and educators alike to engage in meaningful, committed activism—regardless of the topic or context. For anyone looking for ways to instill passion in their students for social justice, this is episode is for you. We hope you enjoy the dialogue and learn as much as we did about how to engage learners in learning that leads to liberation.
Our guest this week is Dr. Paul Bloomberg, Co-founder of the Core Collaborative and author of Peer Power: Unite Learn, Prosper: Activate an Assessment Revolution. In this personal and impactful episode, Paul shares some of the struggles of managing an educational organization in the age of upheaval caused by COVID-19. Though the particularities of his journey over the last year are unique, we will all be able to relate to the impact this last year has had on our practice and perspective. Throughout the episode, Dr. Bloomberg exemplifies the humility, empathy, and willingness to adapt that is necessary for us to continue to make it through these strange times. Another interesting throughline in this episode is the tricky, even paradoxical process of tending to individuals, collectives, and systems when attempting to support professional learning. Though there is no easy answer, Paul provides some great insight into his knowledge gained thus far. Finding ways to support the individual needs of learners (and by learners I mean, as Dr. Bloomberg notes, everyone in education, while bringing about collective and structural change is a vital part of creating better educational systems. We hope you enjoy the episode and learn as much as we did!
This week’s episode of Conceptually Speaking is a special one. It’s the kick-off of our Learning That Transfers Book Tour! To mark the occasion, Julie and I were joined by our two co-authors, Kayla Duncan and Krista Ferraro. The goal of this podcast is to share a little bit about the journey we started on together roughly a year ago to bring this book to life. It all seemed routine at the time, but considering this book was written by a group of people who had never all been in the same room, and in the middle of a global pandemic no less, we thought it’d be fun to revisit the process and share it with our audience. The episode is less of a commercial for the book and more of a “Behind the Scenes” look at what inspired its authorship and its ideas over the last year. Seeing as this book was created during the giant experiment that is COVID distance teaching, it shouldn’t be a surprise that a big part of our conversation focuses on the importance of creating curriculum and instruction that centered agility and flexibility just as much as clarity. As Krista notes, our biggest hope for this book is that the concepts, tools, and resources within empower teachers to make meaningful, informed choices that are suited to their learners and learning context. We hope you enjoy our dialogue and a peak behind the scenes for Learning That Transfers.
This week’s episode of conceptually speaking features author, consultant, and EdWeek blogger and moderator, Peter DeWitt. Despite these honorifics, it won’t take long to realize they don’t matter much to him. In fact, Julie and I had to press him on how he’d like to be introduced. Funnily enough, I’d venture a guess that same humility and groundedness are what makes him such a phenomenal leader. Discussions about leadership often focus on externalities—routines, structures, meetings, professional development, the list goes on. What I loved about this episode though, was Peter’s focus on the interior life of a leader. Even in the best of times, being a principal is a challenge, but now more so than ever. It’s with that frame, Peter asks some compelling questions about the wellbeing of our leaders. The conversation Julie and I shared with Peter is equally personal and powerful. Regardless of your job description, it’s filled with great advice about how to maintain your wellbeing, but I’d imagine it’d be an especially impactful listen for leaders. Enjoy!
Our guest this week is Vince Bustamante, a social studies consultant and co-author of Great Teaching By Design and the Distance Learning Assessment Playbook. Vince is a member of our extended team and has been doing some great work with conceptual understanding and transfer in his hometown of Alberta, Canada. He’s also been busy writing two stellar books meant to help teachers implement Dr. John Hattie’s research in in-person and distance environments and he shares some great tips on important shifts we can make to adjust to our new COVID reality Vince’s experience as both a classroom teacher and consultant helped him realize that there’s a big gap between the afterglow of a great PD session and successful implementation of what teachers learn. It’s a gap he hopes to close by helping teachers focusing explicitly on students and their learning. Vince’s passion for assessment and implementation made him an equally informative and engaging guest. If ever there was a time for us to reflect on how we view assessment in our classroom it’s right now, so get ready for some insight and enjoy the episode!
Today’s episode of Conceptually Speaking features author, consultant, and eLearning innovator, Dr. Jennifer Chang Wathall. Dr. Wathall, or Jenny, as she requests we call her, brings a refreshing balance of disciplinary expertise and an eye for innovation. We cover a wide range of topics in our dialogue, from assessment to higher education to online teaching, but the connective tissue between each one is her desire to transform learning and pedagogy. Dr. Walthall advocates for designing authentic learning experiences that blend disciplinary expertise with interdisciplinary collaboration and finding ways to position students as producers and publishers of knowledge, instead of simply consumers. Shifts that are beautifully captured by the way she describes what’s missing in a lot of math instruction. Jenny’s work as a K12 consultant and professor at Hong-Kong University grants her a unique perspective on the wider trends shaping education at all age levels. This episode is full of practical ideas for classroom teachers and philosophical musings for the future of education. Basically, it’s perfect for our current watershed moment.