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In this episode, Brandi and AJ share how unanswered questions, painful discovery, and an honest search for truth led them from “grinding for godhood” in Mormonism to encountering the real Jesus of the Bible.--The Unveiling Mormonism podcast pulls back the curtain on Mormon history, culture and doctrine. Join us for new episodes every Monday. Find resources to talk about these episodes at pursueGOD.org/mormonism.Help others go "full circle" as a follower of Jesus through our 12-week Pursuit series.Click here to learn more about how to use these resources at home, with a small group, or in a one-on-one discipleship relationship.Got questions or want to leave a note? Email us at podcast@pursueGOD.org.Donate Now--Brandi and AJ's Story: Mormon to Atheist to ChristianBrandi and AJ were doing everything “right.” They were BYU grads, married, building a life, raising kids, and fully committed to the LDS vision of a faithful future. AJ describes it like “grinding for godhood”—a life built on steps, worthiness, temple goals, and constant striving. But then the foundation started to crack.For AJ, some of the doctrinal history raised unsettling questions (including ideas like “blood atonement,” which they mention they'll unpack later). For Brandi, the tipping point was watching changes in the LDS church after COVID and feeling like the church was shifting in a more progressive direction. She tried to address it the way a devoted member would: she wrote letters to Salt Lake City headquarters about what she saw as inconsistency—especially related to abortion and human life. She wasn't trying to tear anything down. She genuinely believed the LDS church was true, and she wanted it to be consistent.But the response felt dismissive—more like a polite pat on the head than a meaningful engagement. That frustration pushed them into a place they never thought they'd go: researching.Looking for answers… without wanting to “deconstruct”Brandi makes an important clarification: they weren't hunting for “gotcha” moments. They didn't go searching because they assumed the church was false. In fact, they needed it to be true. That's why reading outside sources felt dangerous. AJ describes that fear as avoiding the “cognitive dissonance fire”—because their hearts were convinced, and they didn't want their minds persuaded that everything was a lie.But once they started reading, the “genie” didn't go back in the bottle.They looked at sources like MormonThink because it included multiple perspectives—both critical claims and apologetic responses. That felt more balanced. Still, it wasn't official, and Brandi felt guilty even being there. Eventually, as more historical issues piled up (like multiple First Vision accounts, questions surrounding the Book of Abraham, and other details they had never been taught), Brandi felt desperate for the church itself to clarify things. So they turned to the Gospel Topics Essays—official LDS content hosted on the LDS website.That's where everything shifted.Instead of restoring confidence, the essays confirmed key issues and, in Brandi's view, exposed more “spin” than clarity. For the first time, she seriously wrestled with the question: What if the church isn't true?The crossroads: nuance or truthAJ explains how people often survive early doubts by “nuancing” their faith—making room for uncomfortable data while keeping the system intact. But eventually, they reached a crossroads: Would they live in a...
In this episode, Tracy and her son AJ (almost 23) share a field guide for parenting in the digital age. Drawing from AJ's experience growing up with smartphones and social media, the conversation isn't meant to scare parents—but to wake them up and help them guide their kids with biblical wisdom.--The PursueGOD Family podcast helps you think biblically about marriage and parenting. Join Bryan and Tracy Dwyer on Wednesday mornings for new topics every week or two. Find resources to talk about these episodes at pursueGOD.org/family.Help others go "full circle" as a follower of Jesus through our 12-week Pursuit series.Click here to learn more about how to use these resources at home, with a small group, or in a one-on-one discipleship relationship.Got questions or want to leave a note? Email us at podcast@pursueGOD.org.Donate Now--Field Guide for Parents: The Digital World and Your KidsIf you're a parent today, you're raising kids in a world you didn't grow up in. Smartphones. Social media. Gaming communities. Private messaging. Endless scrolling. And the truth is, most of us are trying to parent through technology we don't fully understand—while our kids often understand it better than we do.In this episode, Tracy teams up with her son AJ (almost 23) to offer a “field guide” for navigating the digital world with your kids. AJ grew up in the smartphone/social media era and shares what he's learned—both from experience and from research. They call it a cautionary tale, not because parents should panic, but because parents should wake up.Here's the big idea: a smartphone isn't just a phone. It's a powerful tool with access to an entire universe—and a lot of that universe is unfiltered, unsafe, and deeply shaping.The Pressure Is Real—But So Is the DangerParents feel the pressure early. Today, many kids are getting smartphones in elementary school. And when “everyone has one,” kids start to feel like they'll be left out socially if they don't.AJ shares that this pressure isn't just about having a device—it's about access to the communication apps everyone uses. If your kid isn't on the group chat or the app the team uses, they can feel isolated.But here's the problem: social pressure is not a good reason to hand your child a tool they aren't ready to handle.Start With the Right Question: Is My Kid Ready for the Responsibility?A better question than “When should my kid get a phone?” is: Is my child ready for this responsibility?There are phone options that allow for basic communication without opening the floodgates of social media, porn, and endless content. Parents can start with a “dumb phone” and treat it like training wheels.AJ compares it to driving a car: you don't hand your kid the keys and hope for the best. You teach them. You supervise. You build habits. You set boundaries. You require trust and responsibility over time.Boundaries Aren't About Control—They're About ProtectionIf you decide to give your child a phone, boundaries matter.Some practical boundaries include:Screen time limits (and learning delayed gratification)No phone in the bedroom at nightCharging phones in a public placeNo phone use until...
In this episode, Bryan sits down with Brandi and AJ to hear how a lifetime of devotion to Mormon exaltation turned into what they call “grinding for godhood”—a relentless pursuit of worthiness, temple marriage, and eternal approval. Their story reveals the hidden pressure of a works-based faith and sets the stage for how God began to unravel everything they thought was true.--The Unveiling Mormonism podcast pulls back the curtain on Mormon history, culture and doctrine. Join us for new episodes every Monday. Find resources to talk about these episodes at pursueGOD.org/mormonism.Help others go "full circle" as a follower of Jesus through our 12-week Pursuit series.Click here to learn more about how to use these resources at home, with a small group, or in a one-on-one discipleship relationship.Got questions or want to leave a note? Email us at podcast@pursueGOD.org.Donate Now--Check out Brandi's Book: The Journey to Jesus: Finding Christ after Leaving MormonismGrinding for Godhood: Life Inside Mormon ExaltationIn this episode, Bryan talks with Brandi and AJ, two former Mormons who were fully committed to their faith from childhood. Brandi introduces a phrase that captures their experience perfectly: “grinding for godhood.” It describes a life shaped by striving—keeping covenants, qualifying for temple blessings, and doing everything necessary to reach exaltation.What does “grinding for godhood” mean?Brandi explains that from a young age she believed her purpose was to tap into her divine nature and eventually become like God. This wasn't driven by ego or a desire to be worshiped. It felt like obligation—this is what I was created for, and I have to take it seriously.AJ felt the same pressure. The temple represented the ultimate goal: exaltation, eternal family, and eternal progression. Getting to the temple—and staying worthy—was everything.Women, godhood, and the templeFor Brandi, godhood wasn't just a “male” idea. She fully expected to become like a “Heavenly Mother,” even though Heavenly Mother was rarely discussed in Mormonism. Eternity was tied to temple marriage, which meant finding the right husband wasn't optional—it was essential.That belief raised the stakes on dating, college decisions, and life itself.Utah vs. California MormonismAJ grew up in Utah, where Mormonism was normal and rarely questioned. Brandi grew up in California, constantly interacting with non-Mormons and Christians who challenged her beliefs. Instead of weakening her faith, that pressure made her more confident and outspoken.Brandi actively debated theology, defended the Restoration, and gave Book of Mormons to friends and teachers—believing she was sharing something life-changing.BYU and the pressure to marryAt BYU Provo, the urgency intensified. Brandi describes the dating culture as competitive and...
In this episode, Bryan sits down with Brandi and AJ to hear how a lifetime of devotion to Mormon exaltation turned into what they call “grinding for godhood”—a relentless pursuit of worthiness, temple marriage, and eternal approval. Their story reveals the hidden pressure of a works-based faith and sets the stage for how God began to unravel everything they thought was true.--The Unveiling Mormonism podcast pulls back the curtain on Mormon history, culture and doctrine. Join us for new episodes every Monday. Find resources to talk about these episodes at pursueGOD.org/mormonism.Help others go "full circle" as a follower of Jesus through our 12-week Pursuit series.Click here to learn more about how to use these resources at home, with a small group, or in a one-on-one discipleship relationship.Got questions or want to leave a note? Email us at podcast@pursueGOD.org.Donate Now--Check out Brandi's Book: The Journey to Jesus: Finding Christ after Leaving MormonismGrinding for Godhood: Life Inside Mormon ExaltationIn this episode, Bryan talks with Brandi and AJ, two former Mormons who were fully committed to their faith from childhood. Brandi introduces a phrase that captures their experience perfectly: “grinding for godhood.” It describes a life shaped by striving—keeping covenants, qualifying for temple blessings, and doing everything necessary to reach exaltation.What does “grinding for godhood” mean?Brandi explains that from a young age she believed her purpose was to tap into her divine nature and eventually become like God. This wasn't driven by ego or a desire to be worshiped. It felt like obligation—this is what I was created for, and I have to take it seriously.AJ felt the same pressure. The temple represented the ultimate goal: exaltation, eternal family, and eternal progression. Getting to the temple—and staying worthy—was everything.Women, godhood, and the templeFor Brandi, godhood wasn't just a “male” idea. She fully expected to become like a “Heavenly Mother,” even though Heavenly Mother was rarely discussed in Mormonism. Eternity was tied to temple marriage, which meant finding the right husband wasn't optional—it was essential.That belief raised the stakes on dating, college decisions, and life itself.Utah vs. California MormonismAJ grew up in Utah, where Mormonism was normal and rarely questioned. Brandi grew up in California, constantly interacting with non-Mormons and Christians who challenged her beliefs. Instead of weakening her faith, that pressure made her more confident and outspoken.Brandi actively debated theology, defended the Restoration, and gave Book of Mormons to friends and teachers—believing she was sharing something life-changing.BYU and the pressure to marryAt BYU Provo, the urgency intensified. Brandi describes the dating culture as competitive and...
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Welcome back to the podcast!--The PursueGOD Truth podcast is the “easy button” for making disciples – whether you're looking for resources to lead a family devotional, a small group at church, or a one-on-one mentoring relationship. Join us for new episodes every Tuesday and Friday. Find resources to talk about these episodes at pursueGOD.org.Help others go "full circle" as a follower of Jesus through our 12-week Pursuit series.Click here to learn more about how to use these resources at home, with a small group, or in a one-on-one discipleship relationship.Got questions or want to leave a note? Email us at podcast@pursueGOD.org.Donate Now--Today we're discussing part 7 in our 12-week Discipleship series with hosts Bryan Dwyer and Ross Anderson. Getting to your defining moment of faith is more than the end of your old life; it's the beginning of a new one! Baptism is a symbol of that new life.In this lesson we'll learn 5 reasons why Christians should get baptized.
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In this episode, Bryan and Layne show why the Holy Spirit isn't a reward you earn or a feeling you chase—but God's personal presence given to everyone who trusts in the real Jesus. --The Unveiling Mormonism podcast pulls back the curtain on Mormon history, culture and doctrine. Join us for new episodes every Monday. Find resources to talk about these episodes at pursueGOD.org/mormonism.Help others go "full circle" as a follower of Jesus through our 12-week Pursuit series.Click here to learn more about how to use these resources at home, with a small group, or in a one-on-one discipleship relationship.Got questions or want to leave a note? Email us at podcast@pursueGOD.org.Donate Now--How the Holy Spirit Works Personally (and Why Mormonism Leaves People Unsure)In the last episode, we talked about how a biblical church doesn't need one “capital P” Prophet to speak for God. Jesus didn't set up His church to be led by a single man with exclusive access to heaven's messages. Instead, the book of Acts shows something radically different: God gives His Holy Spirit to every believer, revealing truth through Scripture and confirming it through the people of God.But here's the question that hits closer to home: How does the Holy Spirit work on a personal level?That's where this conversation gets especially helpful—because Layne lived for 40 years inside Mormonism, where the Holy Spirit is often treated like something you earn, maintain, or even lose. And if you grew up LDS, you know the anxiety: Do I have the Holy Ghost? Did I lose it? Am I worthy enough today?The “Holy Ghost” in Mormonism: A Gift You're Never Quite Sure You HaveIn Mormon teaching, people are told about the “gift of the Holy Ghost,” along with ideas like “confirmations,” “warm feelings,” and the famous “burning in the bosom.” It's often described as something that comes after baptism, through priesthood hands, and after ongoing obedience and ordinances.But here's the problem: many Latter-day Saints live with what Layne calls Holy Spirit insecurity.You might feel something during prayer or a testimony meeting—then you mess up later and wonder if God is gone. The whole cycle can become spiritually exhausting, emotionally draining, and mentally confusing. Instead of a steady relationship with God, you're chasing a spiritual signal that feels like it comes and goes.The Holy Spirit Is a “He,” Not an “It”One of the practical moments in this episode is when the guys stop and talk about pronouns—because it reveals something deeper.In biblical Christianity, the Holy Spirit isn't an impersonal force. He is a person. Not a “thing” or “energy” or “vibe.” He has personhood. That's why Christians speak of Him as “He,” not because the Spirit has a gender, but because He's personal—God Himself dwelling in believers.Mormonism may technically describe the Holy Ghost as a person, but it's within a very different framework: Father, Son, and Holy Ghost as separate beings (and functionally separate gods). That changes everything. Instead of God's direct presence, the Holy Ghost becomes more like a messenger—someone sent—while leaving people unsure what God the Father is doing, and unsure whether they can really trust what they're experiencing.Feelings vs. Fruit: What Are You Actually Chasing?A big “aha” in this conversation is how Mormon “spiritual feelings” often function differently...
In this episode, Bryan and Layne show why the Holy Spirit isn't a reward you earn or a feeling you chase—but God's personal presence given to everyone who trusts in the real Jesus. --The Unveiling Mormonism podcast pulls back the curtain on Mormon history, culture and doctrine. Join us for new episodes every Monday. Find resources to talk about these episodes at pursueGOD.org/mormonism.Help others go "full circle" as a follower of Jesus through our 12-week Pursuit series.Click here to learn more about how to use these resources at home, with a small group, or in a one-on-one discipleship relationship.Got questions or want to leave a note? Email us at podcast@pursueGOD.org.Donate Now--How the Holy Spirit Works Personally (and Why Mormonism Leaves People Unsure)In the last episode, we talked about how a biblical church doesn't need one “capital P” Prophet to speak for God. Jesus didn't set up His church to be led by a single man with exclusive access to heaven's messages. Instead, the book of Acts shows something radically different: God gives His Holy Spirit to every believer, revealing truth through Scripture and confirming it through the people of God.But here's the question that hits closer to home: How does the Holy Spirit work on a personal level?That's where this conversation gets especially helpful—because Layne lived for 40 years inside Mormonism, where the Holy Spirit is often treated like something you earn, maintain, or even lose. And if you grew up LDS, you know the anxiety: Do I have the Holy Ghost? Did I lose it? Am I worthy enough today?The “Holy Ghost” in Mormonism: A Gift You're Never Quite Sure You HaveIn Mormon teaching, people are told about the “gift of the Holy Ghost,” along with ideas like “confirmations,” “warm feelings,” and the famous “burning in the bosom.” It's often described as something that comes after baptism, through priesthood hands, and after ongoing obedience and ordinances.But here's the problem: many Latter-day Saints live with what Layne calls Holy Spirit insecurity.You might feel something during prayer or a testimony meeting—then you mess up later and wonder if God is gone. The whole cycle can become spiritually exhausting, emotionally draining, and mentally confusing. Instead of a steady relationship with God, you're chasing a spiritual signal that feels like it comes and goes.The Holy Spirit Is a “He,” Not an “It”One of the practical moments in this episode is when the guys stop and talk about pronouns—because it reveals something deeper.In biblical Christianity, the Holy Spirit isn't an impersonal force. He is a person. Not a “thing” or “energy” or “vibe.” He has personhood. That's why Christians speak of Him as “He,” not because the Spirit has a gender, but because He's personal—God Himself dwelling in believers.Mormonism may technically describe the Holy Ghost as a person, but it's within a very different framework: Father, Son, and Holy Ghost as separate beings (and functionally separate gods). That changes everything. Instead of God's direct presence, the Holy Ghost becomes more like a messenger—someone sent—while leaving people unsure what God the Father is doing, and unsure whether they can really trust what they're experiencing.Feelings vs. Fruit: What Are You Actually Chasing?A big “aha” in this conversation is how Mormon “spiritual feelings” often function differently...
In this episode, Tracy confronts the reality that culture is already discipling our teens about identity and sexuality and challenges parents and mentors to step in with honest, ongoing conversations rooted in biblical truth and grace.--The PursueGOD Family podcast helps you think biblically about marriage and parenting. Join Bryan and Tracy Dwyer on Wednesday mornings for new topics every week or two. Find resources to talk about these episodes at pursueGOD.org/family.Help others go "full circle" as a follower of Jesus through our 12-week Pursuit series.Click here to learn more about how to use these resources at home, with a small group, or in a one-on-one discipleship relationship.Got questions or want to leave a note? Email us at podcast@pursueGOD.org.Donate Now--Talking with Teens About Sexuality: Discipling Kids in a Confusing WorldTeens today are growing up in a world flooded with messages about identity, intimacy, and sexuality. From social media feeds and streaming shows to school hallways and group chats, culture is constantly catechizing them—often long before parents or mentors realize it. That leaves adults with a choice: avoid the conversation out of fear or discomfort, or step into it with honesty, compassion, and biblical truth.In Talking with Teens about Sexuality, counselor Beth Robinson and Latayne C. Scott offer a much-needed roadmap for navigating one of the most intimidating areas of discipleship. Rather than promoting fear-based rules or one-time lectures, the authors equip parents and mentors to engage in thoughtful, ongoing conversations about sex, identity, relationships, boundaries, pornography, dating, gender, and online influences.A key insight of the book is this: teens aren't just battling hormones—they're battling an entire culture that is shaping their beliefs every single day. Algorithms are discipling them. Influencers are normalizing behaviors. Entertainment is redefining identity and intimacy. If Christian adults remain silent or reactive, they shouldn't be surprised when culture becomes the loudest voice in a teen's life.Robinson and Scott insist that intentionality is essential. Parents don't need to have all the answers, but they do need to be present, informed, and emotionally available. Teens are far more likely to listen when they feel understood rather than lectured. That's why the book repeatedly emphasizes listening before teaching, empathy before correction, and relationship before instruction.Another strength of the book is how it reframes God's design for sexuality. Instead of presenting biblical boundaries as arbitrary rules meant to limit freedom, Robinson and Scott show how Scripture presents them as gifts meant to protect dignity, foster trust, and lead to wholeness. Teens are desperate for a vision of sexuality that offers hope rather than shame—and the Bible provides exactly that.The authors are also realistic. They acknowledge that parents cannot control everything their teens encounter. Pornography, sexualized content, and identity-driven messaging are nearly unavoidable in today's digital world. But while parents can't control the culture, they can guide their teens through it. They can create homes where hard questions are welcomed, mistakes are met with grace, and truth is spoken clearly and lovingly.Ultimately, Talking with Teens about Sexuality is not just a parenting manual—it's a discipleship guide. It reminds us that shaping a teen's view of sexuality is inseparable from shaping...
In this episode, Bryan and Layne show from Acts and the Old Testament that Jesus didn't set up His church to be led by “one guy,” but by the Holy Spirit—giving every believer direct access to God with Jesus as the Head.--The Unveiling Mormonism podcast pulls back the curtain on Mormon history, culture and doctrine. Join us for new episodes every Monday. Find resources to talk about these episodes at pursueGOD.org/mormonism.Help others go "full circle" as a follower of Jesus through our 12-week Pursuit series.Click here to learn more about how to use these resources at home, with a small group, or in a one-on-one discipleship relationship.Got questions or want to leave a note? Email us at podcast@pursueGOD.org.Donate Now--How Does God Lead His Church Today?Many people assume that if God is real, and if the church matters, then God must lead His people through one central human authority—one prophet, one president, one pope, one voice you can always trust. That's a natural assumption, especially if you grew up in a system where spiritual certainty came from the top down.In Mormonism, that “one guy” model is baked into the culture. You're taught to trust the prophet's voice. You stand when he enters. You sing songs about him. You learn, subtly, to confuse the voice of the Spirit with the voice of a leader. And over time, it can become so normal that you don't even notice what's happening: you start substituting God's voice for the voice of man.But here's the key question: Is that how Jesus set up His church to work?When we open the Bible, the answer is clear—no. Jesus did not design His church to depend on one human “main character” who can't be questioned. Instead, Jesus promised something far more personal, more powerful, and more stable: He would lead His church by the Holy Spirit, with Jesus as the Head.Jesus' Blueprint Starts in ActsIf you want to understand how God leads the church, you have to start in Acts 1:8. Right before Jesus ascends to heaven, He gives His disciples their mission: they will receive power when the Holy Spirit comes, and they will be His witnesses—starting in Jerusalem and spreading outward to the ends of the earth. Acts 1:8Notice what's missing: Jesus doesn't single out Peter and say, “I'll speak through him now.” He doesn't announce an ongoing chain of centralized authority. Instead, He points them to the Spirit's power and the global mission ahead.Then comes Acts 2, and it's one of the most important moments in church history. At Pentecost, the Holy Spirit comes—not on one leader—but on all believers gathered together. That's the point. The Spirit is not reserved for one office or one “elite” class. God's presence is now available to every follower of Jesus. Acts 2:1-4That alone challenges the entire “one guy” model.The Apostles Were a Foundation, Not a Forever OfficeMormons and Catholics both appeal to the idea of apostolic succession. But the New Testament treats the original apostles as something unique: a foundation.Paul says the church is “built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets.” Ephesians 2:20A foundation is laid once. You don't rebuild it every generation.Acts itself supports this. After Judas dies (after betraying Jesus), the apostles replace him to restore the Twelve. Acts 1:15-26 But later, when James is martyred, the church...
In this episode, Bryan and Layne show from Acts and the Old Testament that Jesus didn't set up His church to be led by “one guy,” but by the Holy Spirit—giving every believer direct access to God with Jesus as the Head.--The Unveiling Mormonism podcast pulls back the curtain on Mormon history, culture and doctrine. Join us for new episodes every Monday. Find resources to talk about these episodes at pursueGOD.org/mormonism.Help others go "full circle" as a follower of Jesus through our 12-week Pursuit series.Click here to learn more about how to use these resources at home, with a small group, or in a one-on-one discipleship relationship.Got questions or want to leave a note? Email us at podcast@pursueGOD.org.Donate Now--How Does God Lead His Church Today?Many people assume that if God is real, and if the church matters, then God must lead His people through one central human authority—one prophet, one president, one pope, one voice you can always trust. That's a natural assumption, especially if you grew up in a system where spiritual certainty came from the top down.In Mormonism, that “one guy” model is baked into the culture. You're taught to trust the prophet's voice. You stand when he enters. You sing songs about him. You learn, subtly, to confuse the voice of the Spirit with the voice of a leader. And over time, it can become so normal that you don't even notice what's happening: you start substituting God's voice for the voice of man.But here's the key question: Is that how Jesus set up His church to work?When we open the Bible, the answer is clear—no. Jesus did not design His church to depend on one human “main character” who can't be questioned. Instead, Jesus promised something far more personal, more powerful, and more stable: He would lead His church by the Holy Spirit, with Jesus as the Head.Jesus' Blueprint Starts in ActsIf you want to understand how God leads the church, you have to start in Acts 1:8. Right before Jesus ascends to heaven, He gives His disciples their mission: they will receive power when the Holy Spirit comes, and they will be His witnesses—starting in Jerusalem and spreading outward to the ends of the earth. Acts 1:8Notice what's missing: Jesus doesn't single out Peter and say, “I'll speak through him now.” He doesn't announce an ongoing chain of centralized authority. Instead, He points them to the Spirit's power and the global mission ahead.Then comes Acts 2, and it's one of the most important moments in church history. At Pentecost, the Holy Spirit comes—not on one leader—but on all believers gathered together. That's the point. The Spirit is not reserved for one office or one “elite” class. God's presence is now available to every follower of Jesus. Acts 2:1-4That alone challenges the entire “one guy” model.The Apostles Were a Foundation, Not a Forever OfficeMormons and Catholics both appeal to the idea of apostolic succession. But the New Testament treats the original apostles as something unique: a foundation.Paul says the church is “built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets.” Ephesians 2:20A foundation is laid once. You don't rebuild it every generation.Acts itself supports this. After Judas dies (after betraying Jesus), the apostles replace him to restore the Twelve. Acts 1:15-26 But later, when James is martyred, the church...
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In this episode, Tracy talks about expectations in marriage—why they matter, where they come from, and how to navigate them in a way that strengthens your relationship.--The PursueGOD Family podcast helps you think biblically about marriage and parenting. Join Bryan and Tracy Dwyer on Wednesday mornings for new topics every week or two. Find resources to talk about these episodes at pursueGOD.org/family.Help others go "full circle" as a follower of Jesus through our 12-week Pursuit series.Click here to learn more about how to use these resources at home, with a small group, or in a one-on-one discipleship relationship.Got questions or want to leave a note? Email us at podcast@pursueGOD.org.Donate Now--Topic SummaryEvery couple comes into marriage with expectations. Some are spoken, but many are unspoken—and that's where conflict often begins. Our expectations are shaped by childhood, culture, and our inner dialogue. If we're not intentional, these expectations can weigh down our relationship instead of building it up.Think back to your family of origin. What roles did your parents play—or fail to play? How might those experiences shape your current expectations of your spouse? In the book, Marriage Forecasting by Tim Muehlhoff says, when frustrations come, ask yourself: “Who is in the room with me?” In other words, what past examples are influencing how I see my marriage today.Ground Rules for Sharing ExpectationsPractice gentle honesty.Avoid judgment. Your spouse isn't a mindreaderBe curious listeners, not defensive.Scripture InsightThe Bible gives us a better way. In 1 Corinthians 13:4-7, Paul describes love as patient, kind, and not easily irritated. Love doesn't assume or demand—it chooses to give. That means healthy marriages require us to talk about expectations instead of hoping our spouse will just figure them out.We also need grace. None of us are perfect spouses. God models patience and forgiveness toward us (Colossians 3:12), and He calls us to extend the same grace to each other.TakeawayMarriage is a lifelong journey of discovery. As you share expectations and show grace, you'll keep learning about each other and eventually know one another well enough to anticipate needs and support each other. Muehlhoff refers to this process as growing into soulmates, so enjoy the journey!
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In this episode, Bryan and Layne explore how the Bible teaches direct access to God through Jesus, not through prophets or religious institutions, using the torn temple veil as the key turning point. Drawing from Layne's journey out of Mormonism, they explain why trusting the Holy Spirit over human authority leads to true freedom.--The Unveiling Mormonism podcast pulls back the curtain on Mormon history, culture and doctrine. Join us for new episodes every Monday. Find resources to talk about these episodes at pursueGOD.org/mormonism.Help others go "full circle" as a follower of Jesus through our 12-week Pursuit series.Click here to learn more about how to use these resources at home, with a small group, or in a one-on-one discipleship relationship.Got questions or want to leave a note? Email us at podcast@pursueGOD.org.Donate Now--Torn Veil, Open Access Layne (a former Mormon of 40 years) and Bryan talk about what access to God looks like in Mormonism compared to biblical Christianity. The big contrast: Mormonism tends to route access through an institution and its leaders, while the Bible teaches direct access to God through Jesus, guided by the Holy Spirit.They anchor the whole conversation in a key moment from the crucifixion: when Jesus died, the temple veil was torn from top to bottom (Matthew 27:51). That wasn't just a detail in the story—it was God's way of saying, “The separation is gone. The way is open.”What This Episode CoversAccess to God: simple vs. structuredLayne describes growing up Mormon with a built-in ladder of authority—bishop, stake president, prophet—where “hearing from God” felt filtered through leadership. Bryan points out that the idea of having a personal relationship with Jesus often feels like “Christian language,” not the normal relational emphasis inside Mormon culture.Why the torn veil changes everythingIn the Old Testament temple system, the veil represented a barrier between people and God's presence. Only the high priest could pass through, and only once a year, with a sacrifice.But when Jesus died, God tore the veil Himself—from top to bottom—showing that man didn't open the way; God did. The cross didn't just pay for sin. It also removed the whole structure of “you need someone else to get you to God.”Prophets then vs. the Holy Spirit nowThey walk through the New Testament idea that God used prophets “in times past,” but something changes after Jesus (Hebrews 1:1–2). Jesus promised the Holy Spirit would guide believers into truth (John 16:13). Layne puts it plainly: dependence on a prophet is replaced by direct access through Jesus and the indwelling Spirit.Why people prefer a prophet anywayEven if it's not biblical, a prophet can feel comforting because he's visible, official, and “safe.” Bryan compares it to legalism: rules feel helpful because they're clear and controllable—but clarity isn't the same thing as truth. Layne agrees: when a system is built on control, it can't survive if people learn they can truly hear and trust God directly.“What about chaos?” Pastors vs. prophetsThey address a common objection: If you don't have a prophet, won't everything fall apart? Their answer: biblical Christianity still values church, leadership, and community—but a pastor isn't a prophet, and no leader gets to trump Scripture. The moment any person
In this episode, Bryan and Layne explore how the Bible teaches direct access to God through Jesus, not through prophets or religious institutions, using the torn temple veil as the key turning point. Drawing from Layne's journey out of Mormonism, they explain why trusting the Holy Spirit over human authority leads to true freedom.--The Unveiling Mormonism podcast pulls back the curtain on Mormon history, culture and doctrine. Join us for new episodes every Monday. Find resources to talk about these episodes at pursueGOD.org/mormonism.Help others go "full circle" as a follower of Jesus through our 12-week Pursuit series.Click here to learn more about how to use these resources at home, with a small group, or in a one-on-one discipleship relationship.Got questions or want to leave a note? Email us at podcast@pursueGOD.org.Donate Now--Torn Veil, Open Access Layne (a former Mormon of 40 years) and Bryan talk about what access to God looks like in Mormonism compared to biblical Christianity. The big contrast: Mormonism tends to route access through an institution and its leaders, while the Bible teaches direct access to God through Jesus, guided by the Holy Spirit.They anchor the whole conversation in a key moment from the crucifixion: when Jesus died, the temple veil was torn from top to bottom (Matthew 27:51). That wasn't just a detail in the story—it was God's way of saying, “The separation is gone. The way is open.”What This Episode CoversAccess to God: simple vs. structuredLayne describes growing up Mormon with a built-in ladder of authority—bishop, stake president, prophet—where “hearing from God” felt filtered through leadership. Bryan points out that the idea of having a personal relationship with Jesus often feels like “Christian language,” not the normal relational emphasis inside Mormon culture.Why the torn veil changes everythingIn the Old Testament temple system, the veil represented a barrier between people and God's presence. Only the high priest could pass through, and only once a year, with a sacrifice.But when Jesus died, God tore the veil Himself—from top to bottom—showing that man didn't open the way; God did. The cross didn't just pay for sin. It also removed the whole structure of “you need someone else to get you to God.”Prophets then vs. the Holy Spirit nowThey walk through the New Testament idea that God used prophets “in times past,” but something changes after Jesus (Hebrews 1:1–2). Jesus promised the Holy Spirit would guide believers into truth (John 16:13). Layne puts it plainly: dependence on a prophet is replaced by direct access through Jesus and the indwelling Spirit.Why people prefer a prophet anywayEven if it's not biblical, a prophet can feel comforting because he's visible, official, and “safe.” Bryan compares it to legalism: rules feel helpful because they're clear and controllable—but clarity isn't the same thing as truth. Layne agrees: when a system is built on control, it can't survive if people learn they can truly hear and trust God directly.“What about chaos?” Pastors vs. prophetsThey address a common objection: If you don't have a prophet, won't everything fall apart? Their answer: biblical Christianity still values church, leadership, and community—but a pastor isn't a prophet, and no leader gets to trump Scripture. The moment any person
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Comparison is the silent killer of joy. It steals your confidence, shifts your focus, and leaves you spiritually drained. In this episode, we dive into 1 Samuel 18 to look at the lives of Saul and David. David's victory over Goliath should have been a moment of national unity, but instead, it exposed the dangerous power of comparison in King Saul's heart.Join us as we explore how to break free from the "sideways energy" of jealousy and find true confidence in your identity in Christ.Key Takeaways:Comparison Strangles Your Joy: Saul had every reason to celebrate, but he let a song of praise for David turn into personal insecurity. When we look sideways at what others have, we forget the goodness God has already given us.Comparison Stunts Your Growth: Jealousy is like "cancer in the bones" (Proverbs 14:30). It keeps you from being mentored by or mentoring others because you view everyone as a threat rather than a partner in God's kingdom.Comparison Steals Your Focus: You cannot follow Jesus effectively while watching someone else's calling. What you stare at is what you steer toward—if you stare at others' success, you'll steer toward envy.Episode Highlights:[00:00] The Celebration That Turned Into Jealousy David's victory was celebrated by the nation, but Saul fixated on the lyrics: "Saul has killed his thousands, and David his ten thousands!" (1 Samuel 18:7). Saul heard a threat where he should have heard a victory for God.[04:30] The Modern Comparison Trap Social media has made comparison effortless. We discuss how "scrolling" affects our spiritual health and why Psalm 34:10 is the antidote: "Those who seek the Lord will lack no good thing."[09:15] Sideways Energy Saul spent more time watching David than ruling his kingdom. We look at Jesus' words to Peter in John 21:22: "What is that to you? As for you, follow me."[15:45] From Competition to Confidence The Gospel replaces insecurity with identity. Like the Apostle John, we can move from chasing status to resting in the love of the Father (1 John 3:1).Scripture References:1 Samuel 18:7-12 – Saul's jealousy of David.Psalm 34:10 – Lacking no good thing in the Lord.Proverbs 14:30 – The physical and spiritual toll of jealousy.John 21:22 – Jesus' command to focus on our own walk.1 John 3:1 – Our identity as children of God.Mentions & Resources:Learn more about David's life and biblical leadership at pursueGOD.org.Start a Conversation: Use this episode to talk with a friend or small group. Find the full discussion guide at pursueGOD.org/david.
In this episode of the PursueGOD podcast, we dive into the life of David to discover a fundamental truth: God's promises always come with a process. Long before David stood on the battlefield against Goliath, he was being shaped in the "darkroom" of the wilderness. Through faithful obedience in small things, private victories over hidden temptations, and the courage to lead with his unique giftings, David became a man after God's own heart.Whether you feel hidden in an "inglorious" season or are facing your own "lions and bears," this conversation will help you recognize God's hand at work in your development. Learn why your private faithfulness is the prerequisite for your public calling and how God is already orchestrating the "good things" planned for your life.Key Discussion Points1. Developed in the DarkroomThe making of a leader happens in hidden places. Like a photograph, if we are exposed to the "light" of fame or responsibility too soon, the image is ruined. David's journey to the throne began with a "cheese run"—a simple act of obedience to his father (1 Samuel 17:17-20).The Principle: If you're too big to serve, you're too small to lead.Bible Link: “Well done, my good and faithful servant. You have been faithful in handling this small amount, so now I will give you many more responsibilities.” (Matthew 25:21)2. Private Victories Protect Public CallingsBefore David faced the giant, he faced the lion and the bear in solitude (1 Samuel 17:34-37). Your private battles—with pride, envy, or lust—are the training ground for your future.The Principle: Hidden obedience produces visible power.Bible Link: “People who conceal their sins will not prosper, but if they confess and turn from them, they will receive mercy.” (Proverbs 28:13)3. Walk in Your Own ArmorDavid refused Saul's heavy armor because he hadn't "tested" it. He knew that a sling he was used to was better than a sword he couldn't carry (1 Samuel 17:38-40).The Principle: If you don't walk in it, you can't war in it. God equips you uniquely for your specific calling.Bible Link: “Do not neglect the spiritual gift you received...” (1 Timothy 4:14)4. God Prepares the Worker and the WorkGod isn't improvising your story; He is orchestrating it. Just as the head of the idol Dagon fell before the Ark years prior, David's victory over Goliath was a prophetic echo of God's supremacy.The Principle: God's preparation always runs ahead of our participation.Bible Link: “For we are God's masterpiece. He has created us anew in Christ Jesus, so we can do the good things he planned for us long ago.” (Ephesians 2:10)Weekly Takeaways (The Challenge)The Service Challenge: Identify one “inglorious” assignment this week...
In this episode, we kick off a 6-week series exploring the life of David, one of the most significant figures in the Bible. But to understand the king David became, we first have to look at the man he replaced: Saul.Saul looked like a king on the outside—tall, handsome, and commanding—but his heart drifted from God on the inside. Through the story of Israel's first king, we discover that it's possible to "look the part" while lacking spiritual power. We'll contrast Saul's heart with David's and identify three dangerous spiritual drift patterns: fear, expedience, and pride.Key Discussion Points1. From Fear to TrustWhen God doesn't show up on our timeline, fear often takes the driver's seat. Saul felt "compelled" to disobey God's instructions because he was afraid of his dwindling army and a looming enemy.The Lesson: Every sin begins as a failure to trust. Faith is the ability to wait on God when fear tells you to rush.Scripture: 1 Samuel 13:12-142. From Expedience to ObedienceExpedience is taking the convenient shortcut rather than doing what is right. Saul tried to mask his partial obedience as a "sacrifice" to God, but Samuel reminded him that "obedience is better than sacrifice."The Lesson: Integrity means doing what is right even when it's inconvenient. You are only as accountable as you make yourself.Scripture: 1 Samuel 15:223. From Reputation to RepentanceEven when confronted with his sin, Saul's primary concern was his public image. He asked Samuel to honor him before the elders rather than humbling himself before God.The Lesson: True repentance doesn't make excuses or worry about saving face; it focuses solely on returning to God.Scripture: 1 Samuel 15:30The Man of the Moment: David and the Grace of GodGod rejected Saul's man-made efforts and chose David—a man after His own heart. While Saul represented human effort, David's story points us toward grace. Centries later, Jesus (the "Source and Heir of David") offers us the same Spirit that empowered David. When we fail, Jesus provides the transformation we cannot achieve on our own.Resources & Next StepsReflect: Are you currently making decisions based on fear or trust?Go Deeper: Find more Bible studies, videos, and leadership resources at pursueGOD.org.Discuss: Share this episode with a friend or your small group to talk about the "drift patterns" in your own life.
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Welcome back to the podcas, as we close out this year with a special New Year's episode!--The PursueGOD Truth podcast is the “easy button” for making disciples – whether you're looking for resources to lead a family devotional, a small group at church, or a one-on-one mentoring relationship. Join us for new episodes every Tuesday and Friday. Find resources to talk about these episodes at pursueGOD.org.Help others go "full circle" as a follower of Jesus through our 12-week Pursuit series.Click here to learn more about how to use these resources at home, with a small group, or in a one-on-one discipleship relationship.Got questions or want to leave a note? Email us at podcast@pursueGOD.org.Donate Now--Every new year brings a familiar pressure: do more, be better, try harder. But on the night before His crucifixion, Jesus offered His disciples something radically different. In a moment filled with uncertainty, anxiety, and transition, He revealed the true secrets to a fruitful life—not through striving, but through connection.A Moment of TransitionJohn 15 isn't a traditional “New Year's passage,” but it may be the most important chapter for stepping into a new season. Jesus and His disciples are in the Upper Room. He has washed their feet. They've shared the Last Supper. Judas has already left. The weight of what's coming hangs heavy in the air.This moment feels like a final speech—Jesus preparing His closest followers for life without His physical presence. Twice in John 14, He tells them not to let their hearts be troubled or afraid. And yet, they clearly are.We can relate. None of us knows what awaits us in the coming year. We don't know what challenges, changes, or losses might be ahead. So how can we live without fear? Jesus answers that question in John 15.Secret #1: Think Like a Producer, Not a ConsumerJesus begins with a metaphor:John 15:1–2 (NLT) – “I am the true grapevine, and my Father is the gardener. He cuts off every branch of mine that doesn't produce fruit, and he prunes the branches that do bear fruit so they will produce even more.”The disciples were likely confused. They were focused on themselves—Why are you leaving us? Why can't we go with you? But Jesus flips the perspective. He shifts the focus outward.Fruitfulness isn't about self-improvement; it's about impact.A consumer mindset asks, What do I get out of this?A producer mindset asks, What can God do through me?This changes everything—our marriages, our parenting, our work, our church involvement. Instead of seeing ourselves as victims of circumstances, we begin asking how we can bring peace, serve others, and make disciples. Jesus had just modeled this by washing His disciples' feet.A fruitful life starts when we stop making it all about us.Secret #2: Stay Connected to the VineJesus continues:John 15:4–5 (NLT) – “Remain in me, and I will remain in you… For apart from me you can do nothing.”The image is organic, not mechanical. Branches don't strive to produce fruit; they simply stay connected. This runs counter to how we're wired. We're taught to maximize effort, build better habits, and dig deeper into ourselves.But Jesus says fruit comes from abiding—learning the art of being with Him.That's harder than it sounds. Many of us are good at doing things for God, but not being with God. Remaining requires intentional...
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In this episode, Bryan wraps up 2025 and gives us a clear snapshot of what God has been doing through PursueGOD—and what's coming next in 2026.--The PursueGOD Truth podcast is the “easy button” for making disciples – whether you're looking for resources to lead a family devotional, a small group at church, or a one-on-one mentoring relationship. Join us for new episodes every Tuesday and Friday. Find resources to talk about these episodes at pursueGOD.org.Help others go "full circle" as a follower of Jesus through our 12-week Pursuit series.Click here to learn more about how to use these resources at home, with a small group, or in a one-on-one discipleship relationship.Got questions or want to leave a note? Email us at podcast@pursueGOD.org.Donate Now --Check out our YouVersion reading plansWant to donate? Click here