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Sonya Mastick and Jen Kinney bring you around their table to meet some amazing women and hear their stories.

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    • Jun 13, 2024 LATEST EPISODE
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    The Night I Almost Died - Part 1

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 13, 2024 28:28


    Welcome to season 6! In this episode, I am interviewed by Jackie Zimmerman (the feature of our 2023 summer series) about the night paramedics had to stop my heart.....while I was awake. It is a harrowing tale that you won't want to miss!

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    Jackie Zimmerman Episode 11 - Elective surgery, new job, a break-up, and marriage.

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 6, 2023 36:17


    This is the final episode of the Jackie Zimmerman summer series! In this episode, Jackie talks about an elective surgery for a tummy tuck, a new corporate job, breaking up with the shady boyfriend, trauma bonding, marriage, and where her life is now.

    Jackie Zimmerman Episode 10 - Girls With Guts, burnout, and 1 last surgery.

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 2, 2023 35:15


    Now for an uplifting episode. Jackie starts Girls with Guts with a group of friends who also are IBD patients. She delves into the first retreat, highs and lows, complications, finding her people, immense pride, burnout, and the final surgery.

    Jackie Zimmerman Episode 9 - New surgeon, an easy surgery, Girls With Guts, and a shady boyfriend.

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 30, 2023 18:21


    New surgeon, the last surgery in the J pouch series, recovering, graduating from Grad school, starting Girls With Guts, and finding out that her boyfriend has been less than faithful. Does this finally fracture the relationship and end things? Listen to find out.

    Jackie Zimmerman Episode 8 - Suicidal ideation, new J pouch surgery, and patient advocacy.

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 26, 2023 28:19


    TW Suicide This episode is deeply vulnerable. Jackie was at a low point and actively planning her suicide. There's outreach, friends intervening, getting help, another J pouch surgery, and some body and mind healing. Life starts moving forward, and good things start happening, but all get derailed by more complications.

    Jackie Zimmerman 7 - Grad school, J-pouch surgery, and dark days.

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 23, 2023 31:21


    TW: Suicide, suicidal ideation. In this episode, life is on an upswing after leaving Camp Oasis. She has just been fired and cannot get another job because she has many surgeries ahead of her. She throws herself into Grad School to occupy her mind. MS relapse, an unsupportive boyfriend and professors, and a J-pouch surgery that does not go as planned. Then a bottoming out and a contemplation of suicide. If you or someone you know is struggling or in crisis, help is available. Call or text 988 to connect with a trained crisis counselor. Remember you are loved and the world absolutely needs you in it! You can listen on Spotify or at www.whatwontshesay.com (link in Insta bio). #jpouch #MS #disabilitypridemonth #spotifypodcaster

    Jackie Zimmerman - Episode 6. Cleveland Clinic UC surgeries, ostomy, and Camp Oasis.

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 19, 2023 42:16


    In this episode, Jackie and her parents are preparing for a series of three UC surgeries at the Cleveland Clinic. She shares a ridiculous story of having to prep for colon surgery while sharing a hotel bathroom with her parents and gives details of her exact procedure. Jackie shares how the surgery did not go as planned, the difficulty with managing pain, feeling the loss of dignity, and how challenging the aftercare was in general. She struggles with her identity and her new life with an ostomy. Finally, she finds Camp Oasis (a camp for children with IBD), where, as a camp counselor, her life is changed forever for the better.

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    Jackie Zimmerman - Episode 5. Bankruptcy, benefit, all the feels, and facing a series of UC surgeries.

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 16, 2023 38:34


    In this episode, it's the end of 2009, and heart surgery is behind Jackie. She is still trying to maintain a full-time job while facing a series of major surgeries, trying to wrap her mind around how much her body was rapidly changing due to meds and illness, and worrying about how to pay the bills. It's important to remember that at this time, Jackie is still only 25 years old. She and her parents try to navigate insurance, contemplate bankruptcy, and having to accept help and generosity from others via a benefit.

    Jackie Zimmerman - Episode 4. Heart surgery, malpractice, job complications and more!

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 12, 2023 25:16


    In this episode, fresh on the heels of her MS and UC diagnosis, Jackie suddenly faces heart surgery, and a family friend saves her life. During this time, she not only faces her own mortality but can see it in the faces of her friends and family. More boyfriend green flags that are actually red flags, and working a full-time job through it all. New meds, more complications, and is now facing multiple life-altering surgeries.

    Jackie Zimmerman - Episode 3. UC, exploding IVs, and another health crisis.

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 10, 2023 29:31


    In this episode, we talk about Jackie finally telling her family about her new diagnosis of IBD, struggling to understand the protocols and implications of UC, many hospitalizations, exploding IVs, and trying to become empowered at a young age to advocate for herself, all while being incredibly ill. Add on top of all of this, navigating the American healthcare system. The episode ends with another health emergency that is not UC or MS.

    Jackie Zimmerman - Episode 2

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 6, 2023 42:17


    In this episode, we talk about living with MS, a new boyfriend, highs, lows, a horrible roller coaster road trip, anxiety, and the ominous precursor of IBD.

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    Jackie Zimmerman - MS and IBD patient and advocate.

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 2, 2023 47:56


    For this summer series we will be kicking off Disability Pride Month by focusing on the story of Jackie Zimmerman. In 2006 she was diagnosed with MS (Multiple Sclerosis) and in 2009 with UC (Ulcerative Colitis). She is now a patient advocate who has an captivating story to tell about her journey. She did not do all the right things, nor was she dealt an easy hand when it came to chronic illness and that is what makes her story so compelling. She delves vulnerably into all the triumphs, the failures, the shame, the empowerment, and everything in between. She shares so much about her public and private battles that you will find it impossible not to be drawn in and inspired. In part one, we start from the beginning of it all. We delve into Jackie's early life, first symptoms, MS and IBD diagnosis, personal life, terrible boyfriends, and so much more.

    Farah Jamani - The Holistic Pharmacist

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 23, 2023 37:55


    In this episode, Farah, also known as the Holistic Pharmacist, talks about women's overall health. We discuss the gut biome, the biology of burnout, difficulty with weight loss and the hormone connection, and the potential array of dysfunction in the body that is responsible for creating havoc and how to undo it all. With a long history rooted in hard science and conventional medicine, Farah has an interesting and well-rounded perspective on maintaining healthier body systems in a world filled with increasingly sedentary lifestyles and a less-than-honest food industry. #holisticpharmacist #womenshealth #menopause #gutbiome #whatwontshesay #womenwhopodcast #functionalmedicine

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    Ted Lasso Season 3 Episode 12 So Long, Farewell Series Finale Recap

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 3, 2023 48:50


    Hang out with us as we wade through the SERIES FINALE of Ted Lasso. Who got closure and who was left hanging? Was it a satisfying ending? How did it compare to other other classic season finales? Stick around to find out!

    Ted Lasso Season 3 Episode 11 Mom City Recap - Beliving' N Biscuits

    Play Episode Listen Later May 26, 2023 43:47


    UGH! This episode on so many levels was a tear jerker. A much needed standoff between Ted and his mom. Beard was a felon?!? Jamie goes "home" while Roy and Keely's worry about him might be bringing them together. Nate is welcomed back into the fold? There is so much to sort through with this second to last episode of the series.

    Ted Lasso Season 3 Episode 10 International Break Recap

    Play Episode Listen Later May 21, 2023 37:04


    This was a big episode with a lot of moving parts. Lets not fuss about and get right into it!

    Ted Lasso Season 3 Episode 9 La Locker Room Aux Folles Recap.

    Play Episode Listen Later May 13, 2023 25:32


    This was one of our favorite episodes of the season! Music was more than ever front and center. So many witty one liners, and finally some sweet, sweet resolution to several story lines. Drop in and listen to our recap!

    Entrepreneur, musician, and world-traveler Dana Forrester

    Play Episode Listen Later May 10, 2023 40:54


    T/W Suicide, Suicidal Ideation. In this episode with Dana Forrester we explore so many facets of life, death, the afterlife, and what it means to be alive. Dana is an entrepreneur, musician, and seasoned world-traveler. She discusses her early defiance as a Jewish girl turned rocker and tattoo shop owner, navigating the loss of her mom, a tragic injury that led to suicidal ideation, and so much more. This episode is absolute fire!

    Ted Lasso Season 3 Episode 8 "We'll Never Have Paris" recap.

    Play Episode Listen Later May 5, 2023 45:29


    While last weeks episode had a lot of highs, this one has a lot of those possibilities dropping back down to reality. Is Ted's ex wife, Michelle, getting engaged? What exactly is going on with Keely and Jack...and Jamie for that matter?! Trent brings the wisdom while Nate tries to recreate the bond he felt with the Diamond Dogs. There is a lot to cover so lets get stuck in!

    Ted Lasso Season 3 Episode 7 "Boxes" recap - Believin & Biscuits

    Play Episode Listen Later May 1, 2023 37:51


    Listen as we unpack this powerhouse episode. We discuss Rebecca's warning of Jack love bombing Keely, Nate finally asks out Jade, and Trent finally getting Ted. Of course we launch the entire episode with lots of laughter surrounding the red string scene, the tender scenes with Sam and Ola along with so much more!

    Ted Lasso Season 3 Episode 6 Recap of Sunflowers

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 23, 2023 41:44


    This hour long episode was just full of goodness! Is Keely in love? Are Roy and Jamie really becoming friends? Is Ted finally opening up? Also, one of he last predictions from Rebecca's psychic visit comes true! Hang out and have fun listening to us breakdown the Sunflowers episode.

    Award Winning Singer Songwriter Jill Jack

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 19, 2023 30:25


    In this episode, we take an intimate deep-dive into Jill's personal life as she worked through life-threatening Covid complications and how she is now trying to find a new normal. Her story has so many twists and turns that you won't want to miss it!

    Ted Lasso Season 3 Episode 5 Recap - Believin & Biscuits.

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 16, 2023 32:10


    Signs might be a telling title for this episode. Where did Zava go? Is Rebecca's psychic right? Has Ted totally checked out? And what the hell is going on with Shandy? Find out in this recap episode of Believin & Biscuits.

    Ted Lasso Season 3 Episode 4 The Big Week Recap!

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 7, 2023 37:01


    Sarah and I look at this weeks, The Big Week, episode where Nate and Ted finally square off, Jamie and Roy form a kindship, and Keely is getting pushed ever closer to making big decisions in her personal/business life.

    Ted Lasso Season 3 Episode 3 Mini- Podcast Recap!

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 30, 2023 35:20


    Psychics, secret relationships, tragic endings, the era of Zava, alliances, and so much more! Listen to our recap of this long and compelling episode!

    Counselor and Spiritual Guide Julie Booksh

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 29, 2023 32:12


    On this episode, Counselor and Spiritual Guide Julie Booksh and I explore how toxic happiness is burying us in shame. For us to live a more fulfilled life, it's important to reconcile our inner world with our outer, how it can be harmful to label our feelings as good or bad, and ways to create inner-diversity in our lives.She also delves into how we view God (or faith) is how we ultimately treat ourselves. That a healthy shift for her has been moving from religion to spirituality. "When we learn how to be with hard feelings (ones we label as bad), we create a wholeness for ourselves and are able to be there with others."

    Ted Lasso Season 3 Episode 2 Recap

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 23, 2023 23:06


    Thematically it feels like an episode where so many characters are finding their strength and questioning their purpose. Listen for a full recap!

    Season 5 Episode 4 Musician, Comedian, and Endurance Athlete Mary Ellen Kearney

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 18, 2023 35:15


    The ultra-talented Mary Ellen Kearney talks about an impactful moment in her life that created a massive but positive change! We explore why so many artists feel they need to be depressed in order to create their best work. Her experience with running a half Iron Man, and how at the age of 40 she has started to perfect the art of not giving a shit. People, this episode is FIRE. Give it a listen!

    Ted Lasso Season 3 Episode 1 Recap

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 16, 2023 30:53


    Ted struggles with negative press, while Rebecca takes it all personally. Are Roy and Keely still together? Has Coach Nate become a nice guy again or more of a supervillain? Listen for all the scoop along with our predicts of how the series might end.

    Mini Episode with Sarah Zimmerman - Believin' & Biscuits Episode #1 The Review

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 10, 2023 21:07


    Former WWSS co-host Sarah Zimmerman and I have decided to do a weekly mini podcast based around Ted Lasso. We will review each new episode the day after it airs. In this episode we recap seasons 1 and 2, along with placing our individual bets on how season 3 might turn out.

    Rachel May - Award Winning Musician

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 5, 2023 39:54


    In this episode, award-winning musician Rachel May shares fun stories about life on the road as a touring musician. We delve into our wild experiences as young musicians, her time playing in Grinder with Detroit Red Wing Darren McCarty, dating musicians, the loss of her mom, and the most life-changing 23 and Me connection! There is EXTREMELY mature content in this episode. You've been warned.

    Angie Kaiser - Drummer and Associate Professor of Social Work

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 26, 2023 54:24


    In this episode, Angie and I discuss our awkward and bloody first-time meeting; what it feels like to have your life driven by the passion of playing music, along with teaching social policies during the era of Trump. Hope you enjoy! #spotify #itunes #whatwontshesay #angiekaiser #womenwhopodcast

    Season 5 Episode One - New Beginnings

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 19, 2023 2:40


    As you may have already noticed this is a short one but it's just a quick update on what to expect this season. I am looking forward to having more great conversations with you all this season. This season we have some really uplifting stories and some real nail biters!

    Is this our final episode....ever?!?!

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 9, 2022 24:03


    Are we consciously uncoupling? Is the podcast ending? Give it a listen to find out! Plus we discuss favorite pies, trust issues because of bad Halloween candy, and other random but hilarious nonsense.

    Hustle and Grind Culture

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 2, 2022 12:49


    This episode is about the toxic hustle and grind culture. Why rest is incredibly important both physically and mentally, with the reminder that we do not have to earn our rest. Enjoy!

    The pain of comparison.

    Play Episode Listen Later May 31, 2022 14:17


    This episode we talk about Brene Brown and how comparison causes us to feel terrible and do ridiculous things like the trend of tanning your butthole and other weirdness.

    Trying Something New

    Play Episode Listen Later May 25, 2022 10:59


    Why did Sarah end up doing an activity that she would normally find terrifying? Was it new found bravado? Was she tricked? Or did she have no idea what she was getting herself into? Listen to find out. This episode is a mini so it is under 11 minutes and is filled with fun, laughs, and dare I say, even inspiration.

    We Have a Name!

    Play Episode Listen Later May 4, 2022 12:18


    In this episode we reveal the name for our mini podcast series and Sonya's exploration on creating new habits to complain less. We also talk a little about Brene Brown's Atlas of the Heart, naming our emotions, and the fundamental shifts that come with healing.

    Powerlifting legend Laura Phelps Stackhouse

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 30, 2022 63:13


    Laura Phelps Stackhouse is a legendary powerlifter defying the odds in a male-dominated sport. She has paved the way for women in the sport while securing her place in the record books as the strongest female powerlifter in HISTORY! This episode is a vast departure from most of her interviews. We talk about body positivity, issues that affect female lifters specifically, nutrition, fitness myths, and more. We promise you don't want to miss this one!

    Mini Episode #2 - Pups, dark chocolate and breakthroughs.

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 24, 2022 7:12


    In this mini-episode we talk about how Sarah found self-forgiveness and had a psychological breakthrough after accidentally kinda, sorta trying to kill her dog with chocolate along with missing a writing deadline. However, the dog learned nothing from this experience. Listen now!

    Artist - Tana Tapson

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 17, 2022 35:51


    We had an AMAZING time talking to Tana Tapson, an oil painter who is deep into a series of large scale paintings of antique coins. Tana's paintings have been shown across the midwest and even published in books! We talk discipline, focus, and the drive to express ourselves through art. Listen now at whatwontshesay.com or wherever you catch your podcasts!

    **New** MINI-PODCASTS with Sarah and Sonya!

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 3, 2022 10:27


    Today we are launching a series of mini-podcasts. We haven't figure out a name yet and would love for you to give us some ideas! In this first episode we discuss the dreaded Trader Joe's parking lot, how electric cars are trying to murder us, and giving ourselves the grace to pivot when things aren't working out as planned.

    Jacki Smith of Coventry Creations

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 13, 2022 50:49


    Jacki is a dynamic entrepreneur and this episode is a must listen! She talks about how she grew her wholesale business from her kitchen to becoming an industry leader! Coventry supplies candles, oils, and other items to over 1000 businesses around the world. We take a deep dive in the how-to aspect of her business along with not only surviving but thriving through a pandemic.

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    Cheryl Salinas-Tucker

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 30, 2022 42:47


    Today's episode features Cheryl Salinas-Tucker, the co-founder and co-owner of ROUGE Makeup & Nail Studio and Eve Organics Beauty in Ferndale, MI. We discuss Cheryl's years in the fashion and beauty industry and how she's created an inclusive and safe place for healthy beauty. One of the amazing stories you will also get to hear is how she found herself accidently walking the runway in NYC just days after graduating high school! Enjoy!

    Camp Casey Founder - Molly Reeser

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 19, 2022 44:53


    Yeehaw! On today's episode, Sonya and Sarah chat by the campfire with Molly Reeser, Founder and Executive Director of Camp Casey. Molly talks about the joy of combining her love for horses and passion for serving kids with cancer, and what it's like for a kid to open their front door to a horse on the porch! She also educates us on the true story of America's first Black cowboys and describes upcoming exciting projects in Detroit. Come along for the ride!

    We're starting the year off joyfully with a chat with Tasha Skilllin!

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 2, 2022 49:12


    Tasha knows a thing or two about healing and loving on ourselves. She walks us through the devastating illness that confined her to bed for years, and the daily practices of healing and gentleness she still applies (and teaches!) today. Tasha is the co-founder of Rules & Rebellion, and the host of the Boldly Becoming You Podcast. Her programs and podcast are designed to help women learn to rest and to release burnout habits, perfectionism and procrastination tendencies. In learning to trust ourselves again, she believes we can reach our highest potential.

    Danielle M. Henry

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 19, 2021 41:01


    On today's episode of WHAT WON'T SHE SAY, Sonya and Sarah interview Danielle M. Henry, the social media director of the nation's largest resource for women in politics! We talk about reproductive rights, hitting a powerful stride at forty, our love of true crime podcasts (of course), and what adult friendship looks like, and so much more. Join us!

    Cheria Thomas

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 5, 2021 37:38


    Grab a cup of @fueloftheday coffee and listen as Sonya and Sarah talk to Ms. Cheria Thomas!! Cheria talks about managing a small business PLUS a full-time job and a kid (), parenting, boundaries, big energy, and how age allows us to care less about what others think! Cheria is marvelous and this convo is , you won't want to miss! Listen on whatwontshesay.com or in any podcast platforms.

    Sarah interviews Sonya and shenanigans ensue.

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 21, 2021 40:29


    In episode 2 of season 4 Sarah Zimmerman interviews Sonya Mastick. In this interview she talks about her time working in the musical business, horrid day jobs, her covid recovery, a brain injury, and more!

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    Meet the new co-host Sarah Zimmerman!

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 4, 2021 32:33


    In this episode you get to learn a little bit about Sarah. We discuss everything from parenting, career changes, misogyny, leaps of faith, and so much more. You wont want to miss this one!

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    Ayana D. King discusses cancel culture!

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 13, 2021 41:12


    Ayana King is CEO and Founder at Maximum Communications, a boutique consulting agency specializing in Content Strategy, Social Media, Reputation Management, and PR/Media Outreach. A captivating keynote and strong advocate for diversity, equity and inclusion, Ayana also hosts national DEI workshops and consults with corporate executives eager to grow healthy, diverse, and inclusive workplaces. She's an advocate for older adults; drummer, in a punk/funk band; and a proud Wolverine - GO BLUE! Learn more at www.GetMaxComms.com.

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