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FedHeads are Robert Shea and Francis Rose, who love to talk about the arcana of government management and the people who are trying to make it better. They don't have t-shirts yet, but are open to ideas. If government is your bag, you've got to listen to 'em. They're the FedHeads.

Grant Thornton Public Sector


    • Jan 23, 2023 LATEST EPISODE
    • weekly NEW EPISODES
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    • 252 EPISODES

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    Episode 235: The CDO Council

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 23, 2023 12:23


    FedHeads, including returning cohost Loren DeJonge Schulman, heard about the work of the CDO Council from CDO Chair Ted Kaouk and Vice Chair Dan Morgan. And they both shared the secret to a pristine GAO report card!

    Episode 234: Why C-SPAN is having a moment

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 16, 2023 15:33


    Did you see the House Speaker vote on C-SPAN? FedHeads Robert Shea and co-host Partnership for Public Service's Loren DeJonge Schulman grilled C-SPAN Communications Director Howard Mortman about how C-SPAN cameras got to the House floor and whether they'll remain. Listen and enjoy!

    Episode 233: Keeping It Fresh

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 9, 2023 15:40


    Happy New Year! FedHeads were joined once again, this time in a co-host role, by Partnership for Public Service's Vice President of Research, Evaluation, and Modernizing Government, Loren DeJonge Schulman. In this inaugural 2023 episode, Loren and Robert talked about what the last Congress accomplished and what to expect in the next couple of years ahead.

    Episode 232: Happy Holidays

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 19, 2022 12:14


    Tune in to this special FedHeads episode where Robert talks with, surprise guest and former co-host, Francis Rose. Catch up with the two to learn what Francis has been up to, their thoughts on the PMA, what to expect from the new Congress, and more. Will Francis come back to FedHeads? Listen to find out more. #BringBackFrancis Take our survey about FedHeads! Here is your chance to let us know your thoughts. Survey closes 1/23/23. https://guidehou.se/3iTeDHr

    Episode 231: Levels of Public Health and Healthcare Solutions

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 12, 2022 15:35


    After a career advancing public health and preparedness at the federal, state, and local levels, Robert Shea and co-host Dave Wennergren welcome Guidehouse Associate Director Donna Knutson who had a lot to share. We've come a long way, but a much longer way to go.

    Episode 230: A look under the hood of the Loan Program Office at DOE

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 5, 2022 13:11


    Department of Energy's Loan Program Office is administering billions to advance some of the nation's most ambitious problem-solving technologies. FedHeads, including guest cohost and ACT-IAC CEO Dave Wennergren, heard how the Loan Program Office is navigating risk and complexity to achieve its ambitious goals. Listen in!

    Episode 229: The Role of Data and Evidence in Advancing the President's Management Agenda

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 28, 2022 18:34


    The PMA is one year old and Guidehouse and Partnership for Public Service celebrated by releasing a report! Vice President of Research, Evaluation and Modernizing Government Loren DeJonge Schulman and FedHeads Robert Shea and co-host Donna Roy talked about PMAs past, present, and what agencies need to do to get the most out of the agenda. Check out the report: https://guidehouse.com/insights/advanced-solutions/2022/building-a-data-foundation

    Happy Thanksgiving!

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 21, 2022 2:07


    The FedHeads are taking a break for the Thanksgiving holiday. But listen in for a quick note of thanks from FedHeads Robert Shea and guest cohost, ACT-IAC CEO Dave Wennergren. Happy Thanksgiving, everyone!

    Episode 228: What the new congress means for government management

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 14, 2022 13:44


    In the wake of the mid-term elections, FedHeads welcomed a new guest cohost, ACT-IAC CEO Dave Wennergren. And with ACT-IAC's Imagine Nation ELC, a report on FITARA reforms, and the general mayhem in DC, these two had plenty to talk about.

    Episode 227: The Bipartisan Infrastructure Law

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 7, 2022 14:26


    Saying U.S. Department of Transportation's got a lot on its plate with the Bipartisan Infrastructure Law is the understatement of the year. FedHeads, including guest host Guidehouse's Director Donna Roy, heard from Keith Benjamin about efforts to effectively implement the law in a way that helps traditionally underserved communities.

    Episode 226: The 2022 Survey of Federal CDOs

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 31, 2022 14:30


    The FedHeads had a good ole data geekfest with Data Foundation President Nick Hart and guest host Guidehouse Director Donna Roy talking about Guidehouse's annual Chief Data Officer Survey. Resources both human and financial, as well as the need for a Chief Chief Data Officer were all on the table.

    Episode 225: Never enough data!

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 24, 2022 16:15


    Another month, another quest to find a FedHeads co-host! This time it's the wise and insightful self described data nerd, Guidehouse's Director Donna Roy. FedHeads Robert SHea and the former DHS/CFPB officials talked about the government's data management maturity and what agencies can expect from the new Congress. Enjoy!

    Episode 224:

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 17, 2022 15:28


    Friend of #FedHeads and GSA's Chief Human Capital Officer Traci DiMartini gave an informative update on the status of recruitment and retention at GSA and human capital reform across the federal government. Oh, and Mary Reding came back!

    Episode 223: 2022 State CIO Survey Report - The People Imperative

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 10, 2022 15:40


    In their annual drop in to FedHeads, Graeme Finley and NASCIO's Executive Director Doug Robinson share the results of their most recent survey of State Chief Information Officers. Getting the people we need to perform for states and their citizens is a growing challenge.

    Episode 222: Optimizing analytics for policymaking and governance

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 3, 2022 19:31


    IBM Center for The Business of Government Margie Graves and Jennifer Bechner of Johns Hopkins University appeared on FedHeads to talk about their report and one of our favorite subjects: advancing evidence-based policymaking. Oh, and Mary Reding came back. Check out the report - Optimizing Analytics for Policymaking and Governance: https://www.businessofgovernment.org/report/optimizing-analytics-policymaking-and-governance

    Episode 221: Bringing agencies together

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 26, 2022 14:25


    In the long slog to find a new #FedHeads co-host, a bright light emerges: Mary Reding, a Partner at disabled veteran owned Vetrix Group. Robert Shea and Mary Reding talked about how agencies are dealing with laws that have already passed and what'll happen if others don't. #noshutdown

    Episode 220: DE&I before it was DE&I

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 19, 2022 14:13


    Grant Thornton Public Sector's very own Monique Earl shared with #FedHeads Robert Shea and returning guest host Stan Soloway her experience driving improved management and equity initiatives in Los Angeles and throughout her career. Spoiler alert: it's not just about hiring a diversity officer.

    Episode 219: What IT is tracking next

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 12, 2022 16:55


    The Feds buy more IT than anyone else on the planet. IT companies need a strong advocate and they've got one in ITI. #FedHeads, including returning guest host Stan Soloway, heard about the big issues facing IT companies from Senior VP of Public Policy Gordon Bitko.

    Happy Labor Day!

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 5, 2022 1:45


    Wishing everyone a happy and safe Labor Day weekend, time to relax, unwind, and enjoy the company of good friends! Thank you for all your hard work! Let us celebrate achievements from this year and look forward to see what we can do together in the coming year!

    Episode 218: Inflation Reduction Act 2022

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 29, 2022 14:26


    Signal Group's Madeline Wade briefed the FedHeads Robert Shea and returning guest host Stan Soloway on the very recently enacted Build Back Better Bill Inflation Reduction Act and what we can expect from a divided Congress.

    Episode 217: Can we restore trust in the government?

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 22, 2022 13:46


    The FedHeads got a new guest host, the incredible Stan Soloway. But he took us real deep into a discussion of the low levels of public trust government is suffering and how we might reverse the trend. Important stuff. Enjoy!

    Episode 216: Live at AGA PDT with Steve Kunze

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 15, 2022 14:15


    U.S. Department of Commerce Deputy CFO Steve Kunze shares with the FedHeads his priorities and challenges driving financial management at an organization with myriad important missions. But we couldn't get him to sing.

    Episode 215: Live at AGA PDT with Melinda Miguel

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 8, 2022 11:12


    Florida's Chief Inspector General and incoming AGA President, Melinda Miguel, joined the FedHeads to talk about her work driving accountability for pandemic and economic recovery spending and strengthening cybersecurity. She's a big Pink Panther fan!

    Episode 214: Live at AGA PDT with Doug Glenn

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 1, 2022 14:23


    The FedHeads Robert Shea and guest co-host Jennifer Kerber sat down at AGA PDT 2022 with the indominable Chief Financial Officer of OPM Doug Glenn to talk federal financial management and his careers in government.

    Episode 213: FedHeads live at AGA PDT

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 25, 2022 7:50


    FedHeads continue their host auditions live at PDT! Robert Shea and guest host Grant Thornton Director Jennifer Kerber give you their government update at AGA PDT in Anaheim, California and "rockin' PDT". Check it out!

    Episode 212: GAO Strategic Plans

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 18, 2022 15:01


    U.S. GAO Managing Director for Strategic Planning and External Liaison Stephen Sanford briefed the FedHeads on GAO's newest strategic plan and the trends shaping the U.S. and it's place in the world.

    Episode 211: Career reflections of a government insider

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 11, 2022 19:47


    The FedHeads got to spend some time reflecting on the productive career of public administration and government affairs lead for the Partnership for Public Service, Kristine Simmons. She's seen it all!

    Episode 210: Rebuilding Ukraine

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 5, 2022 14:34


    Grant Thornton Public Sector Principal Moshe Nelson is already thinking about how to rebuild Ukraine. FedHeads Robert Shea and guest host Adam Hughes heard how policymakers and practitioners can learn from mistakes of the past and leverage innovations of today to help Ukrainians of the future. Read more on "Assisting Ukraine by planning for post-war reconstruction": https://www.assetleadership.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/GTPubSec_Asset-Management-Rebuild-Ukraine.pdf

    Episode 209: 20th anniversary of the E-Gov Act

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 27, 2022 10:36


    Another month, another FedHeads guest host. Adam Hughes, Director of Marketing and Government Affairs, shoots the breeze with host Robert Shea on appropriations, defense authorization, and the 20th anniversary of the E-Government Act.

    Episode 208: Public policy landscape and cybersecurity

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 20, 2022 16:48


    Cyber threats are evolving almost more rapidly than agencies can keep up. The FedHeads Robert Shea and guest host Charles Cooper welcome Senior Director and FedHeads fan Charlie Baisley and his colleague Chief Public Policy Officer of Trellix Tom Gann to give their perspectives on the policies and practices emerging in cybersecurity.

    Episode 207: Diversity in cybersecurity

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 13, 2022 18:33


    Founder of Outpost Gray and Grant Thornton Manager Jax Scott gave the FedHeads great perspective on the government's approach to addressing evolving and critical cyber threats. Check out Jax Scott's YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/OutpostGray

    Episode 206: GAO's High Risk list

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 6, 2022 17:52


    Michelle Sager, GAO Managing Director of Strategic Issues joins Robert Shea and celebrity guest host Charles Cooper of Signal Group to give the FedHeads the secret sauce for agencies' getting off the biennial High-Risk list. You can find the GAO's Key Practices to Successfully Address High-Risk Areas and Remove Them from the List full report here: https://www.gao.gov/assets/gao-22-105184.pdf

    Episode 205: Election predictions and Netflix review

    Play Episode Listen Later May 31, 2022 14:20


    Robert Shea is joined by a new celebrity guest host Charles Cooper, Managing Director of Signal Group! They chat about the future in Congress and Robert Shea offers his review of the Netflix series The G Word.

    Episode 203: Day in a life of an assessor

    Play Episode Listen Later May 16, 2022 18:12


    LA's Jeffrey Prang walked #FedHeads through the life of an assessor in the country's biggest county.

    Episode 204 House

    Play Episode Listen Later May 10, 2022 16:54


    #FedHeads hear from NSC's Director of Cybersecurity and Secure Digital Innovation, Carole House, about government-wide efforts to tackle evolving cyber and digital innovation security challenges.

    Episode 202: How to implement performance management

    Play Episode Listen Later May 9, 2022 18:19


    FedHeads Robert Shea and guest host Doug Criscitello welcome authors Richard Beck and John O'Brien to discuss key lessons in driving performance improvement in government. You can find their book "Engaging the Organization in Effective Performance Management: Translating Vision into Results" on Amazon.

    Episode 201: Can the Federal Government be hip?

    Play Episode Listen Later May 2, 2022 16:12


    Grant Thornton Public Sector Doug Criscitello joins Robert Shea this time as our guest host to talk about the avalanche of developments around the President's Management Agenda.

    We made it to the 200th episode!

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 25, 2022 13:13


    The FedHeads celebrate the 200th episode with guest host Kelly Morrison and their "favorite" guest Deputy Chief Operating Officer at Federal Student Aid Katie Malague. Katie shares with us her role at FSA and what she is excited about! Tune in on how Robert challenges Katie on her many roles and see how she rebuts.

    Episode 199: Modernizing Government: The new federal IT dashboard

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 18, 2022 12:27


    FedHeads welcome Director of IT Data Transparency at GSA Dan York to discuss the latest modernized Federal IT dashboard to enhance customer experience, build trust with key stakeholders, and to further understand Federal IT spending. Tune in to learn more!

    Episode 198 The President's FY23 Budget

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 11, 2022 16:21


    The FedHeads invite Grant Thornton Public Sector Managing Director Doug Criscitello to totally geek out about the President's FY23 Budget proposal, and spoiler alert -- a possible new slogan.

    Episode 197: Auditions

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 4, 2022 12:02


    FedHeads are back live in the studio! And with a new guest cohost, Grant Thornton Director Kelly Morrison. They talk Trends Affecting Government & Society as recently forecast in U.S. Government Accountability Office's (US GAO) new strategic plan. Oh, and Turks & Caicos. Link to GAO 2022-2027 Strategic Plan: Goals and Objectives for Serving Congress and the Nation - https://www.gao.gov/products/gao-22-1sp

    It's not you, it's me.

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 1, 2022 4:03


    Breaking up is hard to do, especially when it's recorded live. But #FedHeads will go on. God speed, Francis Rose #it'snotyouit'sme.

    Episode 196: Building the Nation's cyber workforce

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 21, 2022 13:55


    The IBM Center for the Business of Government's Dan Chenok tried to recreate Francis Rose's favorite #FedHeads episode, but instead shared details about National Academy of Public Administration's recent report on the government's Cybersecurity workforce.

    Episode 195: "Well well well, how the turntables"

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 14, 2022 16:28


    Long time civil servant and icon, Deputy Associate Administrator, Mission Support Transformation at NASA Mary Davie, tried to turn the tables on Francis Rose, but he said no one would care what he had to say. If you want to know what he thinks of things, tune in today!

    Episode 194: Presidential transitions

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 7, 2022 14:20


    The appointments process is taking longer and longer, which means transitions are getting rougher and rougher. Partnership for Public Service Director of the Center for Presidential Transition Valerie Smith Boyd shares some important observations with #FedHeads on what's worked and what needs to improve to make Presidential transitions work better.

    Episode 193: Cover to cover

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 28, 2022 11:15


    FedHeads try to focus on what's ahead – state of the union address, budgets, management agendas, etc – but crises abound. Tune in today for a #FedHeads escape.

    Episode 192: Memorializing the Blackberry

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 21, 2022 14:54


    Miss your Blackberry? Take a walk down memory lane with Jason Miller of Federal News Network as he recounts for #fedheads Francis and Robert some of the stories he heard from former enthusiasts across government while he reported on the end of the BlackBerry era. https://federalnewsnetwork.com/reporters-notebook-jason-miller/2022/01/the-end-of-an-era-blackberrys-impact-on-federal-industry-endures/

    Episode 191: IT services supporting small businesses

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 14, 2022 15:07


    Director of U.S. Small Business Administration (SBA) Antonio “Toney” Mitchell gave the FedHeads a tutorial on IT spending oversight and, in particular, how it's helped his critical agency meet the demands of the moment.

    Navigating Cybersecurity in a Zero Trust World

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 7, 2022 15:23


    On the heels of the release of OMB's Zero Trust guidance, #FedHeads @FRoseDC and @robertjshea talk with @4DigInnovation's Ross Norduft about the evolving cybersecurity landscape in government.

    Episode 189: Government funding and a friendly wager

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 31, 2022 12:33


    A little bureaucracy banter and a friendly wager to start off your week on this week's episode of #FedHeads with @FRoseDC and @robertjshea.

    Episode 188: Creating life-changing reunions

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 24, 2022 15:40


    Grant Thornton's charitable program, Purple Paladin, recognized the Warrior Reunion Foundation, which provides all-inclusive reunion experiences to reconnect military units that deployed to a combat theater together. The FedHeads welcomed founder and CEO James Ferguson to share their compelling mission. And you've got to see this video: https://gt-us.co/3FYzUX6

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