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Wellingtonians now have the chance to discuss the issues of the day one-on-one with proud local Nick Mills and have a forum to share their ideas, passions and outrages on a daily basis. You don't find many people more passionate about the capital than Nick, and he comes to Wellington Mornings after decades of success as the man behind some of the city's leading hospitality and entertainment offerings - Spruce Goose, Hummingbird and the Wellington Saints basketball team just to name a few. Nick's proud of his city but also knows much can be improved on to make Wellington an even better place, and brings an honest, edgy, fun and engaging show to Wellingtonians each weekday from 9 'til midday.

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    Karl Tiefenbacher in studio with Nick Mills

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 1, 2025 20:09 Transcription Available


    Wellington mayoral hopeful Karl Tiefenbacher says he would resign as mayor and ask the Government to call in commissioners to replace the elected council if he couldn't implement his policies. Speaking to Newstalk ZB Wellington Mornings host Nick Mills, Tiefenbacher was asked by a caller if he would honour his campaign promises. LISTEN ABOVESee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Labour Leader Chris Hipkins on the new electricity plans from the Government

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 1, 2025 18:06 Transcription Available


    Labour Leader Chris Hipkins says the government's new electricity announcement is "throwing more money down empty holes". Hipkins also shared his thoughts with Nick Mills on Wellington Morningon the lack of bi-partisan support from the National government, after the leak of Luxon's letter. He discussed how Labour were not informed of any of the announcements today, and says this shows that they are not open to working together on big issues. In his monthly catch up with Nick Mills Wellington Mornings, Hipkins also talked about the new earthquake prone building rules, the decision on Palestinian state, and Trump's new plan for Gaza and if the UN is fit for purpose. LISTEN ABOVESee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Tami Neilson chats with Nick Mills on her upcoming Neon Cowgirl Tour

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 29, 2025 11:11 Transcription Available


    Country star Tami Neilson chats to Nick Mills on her upcoming Neon Cowgirl tour, touring with the greats like Willie Nelson and Bob Dylan and her love of Wellington. The New Zealand leg of her international tour begins Friday 3rd October. You can get tickets at plus1.co.nz.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Beehive Buzz: Azaria Howell on the Government's decision to not recognise Palestinian Statehood

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 29, 2025 11:00 Transcription Available


    Winston Peters announced New Zealand's stance on Palestinian Statehood this weekend at the UN. We hear the talk around the beehive after Cabinet's decision to not recognise the state. We also discuss the funding of prisons and the upcoming announcement from Prime Minister Christopher Luxon on earthquake-prone building law rewrites, and how this will impact Wellingtonians and our businesses. Newstalk ZB political editor Azaria Howel joined Nick Mills for the Beehive Buzz. LISTEN ABOVESee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Friday Faceoff: Stephen Franks and Peter Dunne

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 26, 2025 27:04 Transcription Available


    On Friday Faceoff this week Nick spoke to Franks Ogilvie director Stephen Franks and former cabinet minister Peter Dunne. They discussed the council desk saga, privacy within the council, gave their thoughts on Andrew Little and the Wellington mayoral race and their live reaction to the Loafers Lodge fire guilty verdict. LISTEN ABOVESee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    WOW Wanderer Minubus Driver Ron Irvine on showing off Wellington

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 25, 2025 9:01 Transcription Available


    To coincide with the influx of visitors for World of WearableArt (WOW), WellingtonNZ has arranged a hop-on, hop-off minibus service exclusively for WOW ticketholders. It connects them with the best of Wellington's CBD with a 30-minute loop route, accompanied by commentary of some of Wellington's history and stories. Driver and tour guide Ron Irvine joined Nick Mills to talk about his role. LISTEN ABOVESee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Politics Thursday: Tim Costley and Tangi Utikere with Nick Mills

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 25, 2025 18:08 Transcription Available


    On Politics Thursday, Nick Mills was joined by Labour's Palmerston North MP Tangi Utikere and National's Otaki MP Tim Costley. They discussed Treasury's stark warnings about the country's fiscal direction, the new Reserve Bank Governor and the ratings of politicians from the Herald's Mood of the Boardroom. LISTEN ABOVESee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Ray Chung on a second tilt at the Wellington Mayoralty

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 24, 2025 20:16 Transcription Available


    Wellington City Councillor Ray Chung joined Nick Mils to discuss his second run for mayor in this year's Local Body Elections. He discussed his 0% rates rise policy, and the recent release of a controversial email he sent to fellow councillors in 2023. LISTEN ABOVESee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Music Time: James Irwin on the Greatest guitarists of all time

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 23, 2025 11:48 Transcription Available


    This week on Music Time, can Nick and James pinpoint who is the greatest guitar player of all time? Is it an early innovator or a blues legend, A fret shredder or Rock guru? With so many great players to choose from, who will be number 1? LISTEN ABOVESee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Business Panel: Jamie Tout and Hamish Best on business in the capital

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 22, 2025 32:31 Transcription Available


    In this week's Business Panel, Nick was joined by sixth generation Ohariu Valley farmer Hamish Best - who also owns Conscious Valley meat - alongside NZCIS Performance Institute general manager Jamie Tout. They discussed how their respective businesses have been performing this year, and talked over a number of issues such as the recent GDP result, how to get Wellington thriving for business and whether the Local Body Elections have an impact on their companies. LISTEN ABOVESee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Friday Faceoff: Hamish Rutherford and Georgina Campbell wrap the week

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 19, 2025 31:01 Transcription Available


    Nick Mills wrapped up the week with BRG senior consultant and Chris Luxon's former chief press secretary Hamish Rutherford, and former NZ Herald senior reporter Georgina Campbell. They discussed the fallout from the 0.9% GDP drop, the upcoming Wellington Local Body Elections, amalgamation and what should happen with the City to Sea Bridge. LISTEN ABOVESee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Friday Sport kickoff: Jason Pine and Adam Cooper on the weekend sport ahead

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 19, 2025 10:55 Transcription Available


    Nick is joined for the Friday Sport Kickoff by Jason Pine and Adam Cooper, who look ahead to the Black Ferns' Rugby World Cup semifinal against Canada on Saturday. They also discussed the fallout from last week's All Blacks loss to South Africa, and whether the return of some top players will salvage the Wellington Lions' NPC season. LISTEN ABOVESee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    WOW's Executive Creative Director

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 18, 2025 12:53 Transcription Available


    World of WearableArt (WOW) is back in Wellington for 2025, with the show Rise at TSB Arena. The mastermind of the show again this year is the renowned Las Vegas-based creative genius Brian Burke, who returns as Executive Creative Director. Ahead of WOW's opening night in Wellington, Nick Mills caught up with Burke about his vision for this year's festival, and his passion for producing world-leading events around the globe. LISTEN ABOVESee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Politics Thursday: Labour's Ayesha Verrall and National's Mike Butterick

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 18, 2025 18:58 Transcription Available


    New Zealand's economy is back in contraction. Latest data just out from Stats NZ shows GDP fell 0.9% in the three months to June. That follows six months of growth, after six months of contraction. Nick Mills gauged reaction to the announcement with Labour's Ayesha Verrall and National's Mike Butterick in Politics Thursday. They also discussed the current teacher and nurse strikes, the rise in New Zealanders being sent to prison and Labour's relationship with Te Pāti Māori. LISTEN ABOVESee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    World of Wearable Art dancer Stela Albuquerque with Nick Mills

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 17, 2025 8:04 Transcription Available


    As the countdown continues to the start of World of World of WearableArt (WOW) in Wellington for 2025, Nick Mills spoke with show model and dancer Stela Albuquerque, whose face is on the WOW posters and advertising for this year's event. LISTEN ABOVESee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Diane Calvert: Wellington Mayoral candidate in studio with Nick Mills

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 17, 2025 21:36 Transcription Available


    Three term Wellington City Council Diane Calvert joined Nick Mills in studio to discuss her second bid for the Wellington Mayoralty. Calvert pledged to cut the Council's operational expenditure by 5% - or $40 million - in her first year as Mayor. LISTEN ABOVE OR WATCH BELOW See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    WOW Wardrobe and Activations Manager Leonie Trathen

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 16, 2025 11:39 Transcription Available


    Ahead of the 2025 edition of World of Wearable Art (WOW) at Wellington's TSB Arena, Newstalk ZB's Nick Mills is chatting to some of the key figures, both on stage and behind the scenes. Nick sat down with Leonie Trathen, who first modelled for the show in 1990, and is now wardrobe and activations manager for the design competition. LISTEN ABOVESee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Friday Faceoff: Dame Winnie Laban and Tim Brown

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 12, 2025 28:37 Transcription Available


    On Friday Faceoff this week, Nick was joined by former Labour MP and Pasifika leader Dame Winnie Laban, and outgoing Wellington City Councillor Tim Brown. They discussed the fate of the City to Sea Bridge, the mood of the nation in the wake of the Tom Phillips saga, and comments by Winston Peters about the state of Wellington. LISTEN ABOVESee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Friday Sport: Commentators Grant Nisbett and Matt Pearce preview ABs v Springboks test 2

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 12, 2025 17:05 Transcription Available


    Ahead of the second All Blacks-Springboks test at Wellington's Sky Stadium, Nick Mills spoke to the two television match day commentators - Sky TV's Grant Nisbett and Super Sport South Africa's Matt Pearce.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Politics Thursday: Labour's Ayesha Verrall and National's Tim Costley

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 11, 2025 21:11 Transcription Available


    On Politics Thursday, Nick was joined by Labour's Health spokesperson Ayesha Verrall and National's Otaki MP Tim Costley. They discussed the new Government proposal for a new infringement offence for shoplifting, the annual net migration continuing to fall, and some harrowing statistics around care in Wellington Hospital's Emergency Department. LISTEN ABOVESee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Te Papa CEO Courtney Johnston in studio with Nick Mills

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 10, 2025 20:38 Transcription Available


    New Zealand's national museum Te Papa was recently named in the top 1% "Best of the Best attractions worldwide" in the TripAdvisor 2025 Travellers' Choice Awards. The museum on Wellington's waterfront was also labelled the best attraction in New Zealand, and the fifth best attraction in the South Pacific. However, with a slower than expected tourism recovery, Te Papa is forecasting a $13m deficit for the 2025/26 financial year and lowering its visitor target. Te Papa CEO Courtney Johnston joins Nick Mills in studio to talk about the museum's importance to Wellington and what's coming over the next few months. LISTEN ABOVESee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Music Time Sep 9: Tami Neilson's new album; stacked Wellington gig list

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 9, 2025 8:51 Transcription Available


    On Music Time this week, James tells Nick if there is one concert he should go to this year then it's this one by Tami Neilson. On this week's slot, they also looked at songs that were made into better hits than the original versions, and they look at more gigs happening around the city in the coming months. LISTEN ABOVESee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    NZ First Leader Winston Peters with Nick Mills on Wellington Mornings

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 9, 2025 19:26 Transcription Available


    New Zealand First leader and Foreign Minister Winston Peters says Wellington's incoming council needs to bring the vibrancy back to the city. He spoke with Nick Mills on Wellington Mornings about how the city can be brought back to life, and offered his views on the current city leaders. Peters also discussed his party's compulsory Kiwisaver policy, and whether former Labour Minister Stuart Nash is likely to stand for NZ First at the next Election. LISTEN ABOVESee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Business Panel: Jon Duffy and Renaye Huia

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 8, 2025 22:11 Transcription Available


    This week's business panel takes a look at real estate and hot consumer issues, with Nick Mills joined in studio by Ray White Real Estate agent Renaye Huia, and Consumer NZ CEO Jon Duffy. LISTEN ABOVESee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Friday Faceoff: Phil O'Reilly and Justin Lester with Nick Mills

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 5, 2025 32:37 Transcription Available


    On Friday Faceoff, Nick was joined by Dot Loves Data director and former Wellington Mayor Justin Lester, along with Iron Duke Partners Managing Director Phil O'Reilly. They discussed whether Wellington's City to Sea Bridge should be saved, the poll results showing Andrew Little significantly ahead in the Wellington Mayoral race, and whether former Prime Ministers Sir John Key and Helen Clark should have attended recent commemorations in China. LISTEN ABOVESee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Politics Thursday September 4: Ginny Andersen and Mike Butterick

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 4, 2025 20:48 Transcription Available


    On Politics Thursday, Nick Mills was joined by Labour's Police spokesperson Ginny Andersen and National's Wairarapa MP Mike Butterick. They discussed former Prime Ministers Sir John Key and Helen Clark attending a military parade hosted by China to commemorate 80 years since the eight-year Japanese invasion of China in 1937. Also on the agenda was the latest report on the hold-ups in the justice system, New Zealand's involvement in the Paris Climate agreement and whether the new exemption on the foreign home buyer ban will trigger a rise in all house prices. LISTEN ABOVESee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Labour Leader Chris Hipkins on Foreign home buyer rules, Peeni Henare's by-election chances

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 3, 2025 19:46 Transcription Available


    Labour Leader Chris Hipkins says his party would 'take a closer look' at whether the exemption to the foreign home buyers' ban could be overturned by his party. Hipkins told Nick Mills on Wellington Mornings he's unsure whether legislation would allow it to be overturned. In his monthly catch up with Wellington Mornings, Hipkins also discussed the Tāmaki Makaurau by-election, whether he's taking speculation of a Peeni Henare leadership challenge seriously and what Andrew Little would mean for Wellington if he became Mayor. LISTEN ABOVESee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Friday Faceoff: Wrapping the week with Mark Sainsbury & Brigitte Morten

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 29, 2025 31:42 Transcription Available


    On Friday Faceoff, Nick Mills was joined by broadcaster Mark Sainsbury and Director at Franks Ogilvie, Brigitte Morten. They discussed the government's announcements on supermarkets, why Transmission Gully needs major repairs so quickly, and what to do with the social problems in Newtown. LISTEN ABOVESee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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    Politics Thursday: Do latest supermarket announcements go far enough?

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 28, 2025 20:42 Transcription Available


    On Politics Thursday this week, National's Tim Costley and Labour's Ginny Andersen debated whether the Government's latest supermarket announcements will genuinely open the door to a third player. They also discussed the new visa to attract business investors to New Zealand, the debate within the National Party about house values, and the repairs needed to the Transmission Gully motorway. LISTEN ABOVESee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Music Time: The 5 best artists of all time

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 26, 2025 10:13 Transcription Available


    Who would you name as your top five music artists of all time? Nick and James gave theirs in this week's Music Time. James also took a look ahead to several gigs coming to Wellington, including the lineup announced for Hutt Sounds. LISTEN ABOVESee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Business Panel July 25: Brock Shute & Roy Callard

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 25, 2025 32:24 Transcription Available


    On this week's business panel, Nick was joined by Director & Mortgage Advisor at the Mortgage Advice Company Brock Shute, and Owner & Manager of EmbroidMe Wellington CBD Roy Callard. They discussed how business is tracking for them so far in 2025, and on the back of a stunning weekend in the capital, how much positivity is around at the moment. Also on the agenda, how events in Wellington are having an impact on business, the reaction to last week's OCR cut, and politically how the Government and local body politicians are affecting businesses. LISTEN ABOVESee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Friday Faceoff Aug 22: Maddy Burgess-Smith and Iona Pannett

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 22, 2025 32:22 Transcription Available


    On Friday Faceoff, panellists Maddy Burgess-Smith and Iona Pannett responded to comments by Finance Minister Nicola Willis that those criticising the economy are 'merchants of misery' and 'doomsayers'. They also discussed the OCR rate cut, teacher strikes, the $80-million cost blowout for Wellington's sludge plant and whether the age limit for Working Holiday Visas should be raised. LISTEN ABOVESee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Politics Thursday: Ginny Andersen and Mike Butterick on OCR rate cut and teacher strikes

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 21, 2025 21:49 Transcription Available


    On Politics Thursday, Labour's Ginny Andersen and National's Mike Butterick discuss the new Official Cash Rate, and whether comments by Prime Minister Chris Luxon and Finance Minister Nicola Willis were appropriate. They also looked at the teacher strike, and whether Foreign Minister Winston Peters was right to remove Trevor Mallard as Ambassador to Ireland. LISTEN ABOVESee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Chris Hipkins monthly catchup with Nick Mills

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 20, 2025 20:22 Transcription Available


    Opposition leader Chris Hipkins denies that the Labour Party will lose support over his refusal to give evidence in a public session for the Royal Commission of Inquiry into Covid-19. Dame Jacinda Ardern, Chris Hipkins, Grant Robertson and Dr Ayesha Verrall had refused to front up publicly. But, Hipkins told Nick Mills on Wellington Mornings that he doubts it will affect his party's reputation. LISTEN ABOVESee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Friday Faceoff: Nick Leggett and Fleur Fitzsimons talk Covid-19 inquiry, ferry settlement and Chloe Swarbrick

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 15, 2025 32:27 Transcription Available


    Chris Hipkins, Ayesha Verrall, Dame Jacinda Ardern and Grant Robertson have refused to front at public hearings for the second phase of the Royal Commission of Inquiry into the Covid-19 response. Are they dodging accountability, or have they answered enough questions? Also, Kiwirail have paid nearly $150 million to Hyundai over the cancelled iRex ferry deal. Is this better than expected? To answer those questions, Infrastructure NZ chief executive and former Porirua mayor Nick Leggett and PSA national secretary Fleur Fitzsimons joined Nick Mills for Friday Faceoff. LISTEN ABOVESee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Politics Thursday: Ayesha Verrall and Tim Costley debate Covid-19 inquiry, Chloe Swarbrick week-long ban

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 13, 2025 20:58 Transcription Available


    Former ministers Chris Hipkins, Jacinda Ardern, Grant Roberston and Ayesha Verrall have refused to front up for public hearings at the Royal Commission of Inquiry into Covid-19. Are they ducking for cover, or is there a good reason not to show up? Also, yesterday Green's co-leader Chloe Swarbrick was 'named' and booted from the house for a week for saying some government MPs needed to “grow a spine” and support her bill. Was this punishment justified? To answer those questions, Labour's health and Wellington issues spokeswoman Ayesha Verrall and National's Otaki MP Tim Costley joined Nick Mills for Politics Thursday. LISTEN ABOVESee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Music Time: Was your favourite song actually written by a lesser known group?

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 12, 2025 11:43 Transcription Available


    This week on Music Time, James Irwin takes a look at some big hits that were originally written by a lesser known group - and many of them will surprise you! Also, Ed Sheeran is coming to New Zealand for five stadium shows - but can he sell out stadiums elsewhere in the world? LISTEN ABOVESee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Business Panel: Hospitality NZ CEO Steve Armitage and Retail NZ CEO Carolyn Young

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 11, 2025 32:22 Transcription Available


    They are some of the biggest industries affected by a slumping economy, so how are they holding up in 2025? Unemployment and inflation have both risen in the latest updates, foot traffic in the Wellington CBD is still down, and both sectors are about to be stung with increased costs as the government bans contactless payment surcharges. So, how are retail and hospitality operators feeling, and are they hopeful for something of an economic recovery by year's end? To answer those questions, Hospitality NZ chief executive Steve Armitage and Reatil NZ chief executive Carolyn Young joined Nick Mills for the Business Panel. LISTEN ABOVESee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Friday Faceoff: Hamish Rutherford and Jason Walls talk road user charges, waterfront fencing and Willow-Jean Prime

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 8, 2025 32:38 Transcription Available


    Education Minister Erica Stanford repeatedly tried to brief and seek input from Labour's education spokeswoman Willow-Jean Prime about impending NCEA changes - but Prime and Hipkins refused to meet. Is this what we expect from the opposition? Also, the Wellington City Council has voted against a proposal to install fencing along Wellington's waterfront after a recommendation from the coroner. Is this the right call? To answer those questions, BRG senior consultant and former chief press secretary to Christopher Luxon Hamish Rutherford and Newstalk ZB political editor Jason Walls joined Nick Mills for Friday Faceoff. LISTEN ABOVESee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Friday Sport Kickoff: Jason Pine and Adam Cooper on how Kyle Preston went from a roofer to an All Black

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 8, 2025 9:55 Transcription Available


    All Black star Richie Mo'unga will return to New Zealand in 2026, signing with New Zealand Rugby, the Crusaders and the Canterbury Rugby Union. What does his return mean for the All Blacks? Also, it's a story of success very few could replicate; going from a roofer playing club rugby to an All Black in the space of 12 months. But that's exactly what Wellington's Kyle Preston has done. How did he do it? Weekend Sport host Jason Pine and All Sport Breakfast host Adam Cooper joined Nick Mills for the Friday Sport Kickoff. LISTEN ABOVESee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Mammia Mia: Donna and the Dynamos perform in studio

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 7, 2025 10:20 Transcription Available


    A big party is coming to Wellington's St James Theatre this month. The acclaimed Mamma Mia musical is taking the stage over August, with the Wellington-based cast performing all of Abba's greatest hits over a two-week season. Nick was lucky enough to be joined by a very sparkly Donna and the Dynamos in studio to discuss the show and perform a classic Abba tune. Mamma Mia is on at the St James Theatre from August 13th to 31st. Tickets from Ticketmaster. LISTEN ABOVESee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Politics Thursday: Greg O'Connor and Tom Rutherford talk unemployment, road user charges

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 7, 2025 22:53 Transcription Available


    The government is hoping to have petrol tax fully scrapped by 2027, with all motorists moving towards paying road user charges per kilometre. But if the idea is that this is cost neutral, what's the point? Also, Fisheries Minister Shane Jones has announced a raft of changes to the Fisheries Act, but as a former chair of Sealord and someone who has received donations from the industry, is he the right person to be making these decisions? To answer those questions, Labour's Ohariu MP Greg O'Connor and National's Bay of Plenty MP Tom Rutherford joined Nick Mills for Politics Thursday. LISTEN ABOVESee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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