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Jack Tame’s crisp perspective, style and enthusiasm makes for refreshing and entertaining Saturday morning radio on Newstalk ZB. News, sport, books, music, gardens and celebrities – what better way to spend your Saturdays?

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    Guy Sebastian: Australian musician on his career, creative process, latest album ‘One Hundred Times Around The Sun'

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 9, 2025 13:40 Transcription Available


    Guy Sebastian is an Australasian icon with a career that's nothing short of extraordinary. From winning the first season of Australian Idol back in 2003, to carving out a place on the charts, to mentoring new talent as a coach on The Voice Australia – he's been in the spotlight for over two decades. And now he's embarking on a new chapter with the release of his tenth album ‘One Hundred Times Around The Sun'. The album has taken Sebastian nearly five years to make, a much longer period than the typical six months to two years most artists these days create them in. He told Jack Tame that in the early stages of his career, he felt pressure to create quickly. “Don't take longer than a year,” Sebastian explained. “Or you'll disappear into obscurity.” “Then there's like, the pressure of doing the right thing by the fans, y'know, you don't wanna make them wait too long.” It's a mentality that used to govern much of Sebastian's process, but one that he's managed to grow beyond. “I just got to this point where like, I don't want to release anything until I'm stoked with it,” he told Tame. “I wanna love every song. I don't want a filler on there, I want every song to be great.” LISTEN ABOVE See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Estelle Clifford: Iconic albums that are twenty years old

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 9, 2025 6:35 Transcription Available


    Today Estelle Clifford is hitting rewind and taking it back to 2005, looking at some of the iconic albums released before music streaming services really took off. Among the albums nearly old enough to drink in the United States are Bloc Party's 'Silent Alarm', Black Eyed Peas' 'Monkey Business', and Paramore's 'All We Know is Falling' - but that's not the end of her list. LISTEN ABOVESee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Mike Yardley: Treasures and treats in Edinburgh, Scotland

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 9, 2025 8:55 Transcription Available


    "Brooding, imposing, ruggedly beautiful and spilling with forth with a storied history, Edinburgh stirs the senses of even the most jaded traveller. I've just reacquainted myself with the striking Scottish capital, as part of a riveting romp around the UK on Trafalgar's Real Britain tour." Read Mike's full article here. LISTEN ABOVESee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Catherine Raynes: The Unlikely Doctor and The Stars Are a Million Glittering Worlds

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 9, 2025 6:02 Transcription Available


    The Unlikely Doctor by Timoti Te Moke Born into love but then thrust into violence, and shaped by struggle, Timoti Te Moke was never destined to be a leader. After an early start as a bright boy in the eastern Bay of Plenty, nurtured by his reo Māori-speaking grandparents, Timoti's life changed sharply when his mother took custody of him when he was six. He survived abuse, state care, gangs and prison, his life marked by trauma and pain. By fourteen, he was behind bars. By twenty, he'd crossed the Tasman, trying to leave his past behind. But it was a moment in a prison cell — a glimpse of blue sky — that sparked a life-altering question: What if this isn't all there is? Through grit and an unyielding drive for justice, Timoti transformed his life. He returned to Aotearoa, became a paramedic and, after facing racism and an unsupported manslaughter charge that nearly derailed his life, became a medical student in his fifties. Timoti is now a fully qualified doctor — proof that brilliance can come from anywhere, and that our society must change to allow it. A powerful, confronting memoir of injustice, identity and the cost of lost potential, The Unlikely Doctor is not just Timoti's story — it is every child's. Because when we remove the barriers for success, we don't just help individuals — we help reshape a nation. The Stars Are a Million Glittering Worlds by Gina Butson Thea, a young woman crushed by guilt, flees to Central America to escape her life in New Zealand. In Guatemala, she meets the charismatic Chris and his partner, Sarah, and the three of them form a tight bond. While the rest of the world is caught in the grip of the global financial crisis, the three friends find a false reality in the backpacker party town of San Pedro. Surrounded by the dark volcanic beauty of the Guatemalan highlands, Thea starts to come to terms with her past. But everything changes when a tragedy occurs. Knowing she has to leave Central America, but not ready to return home, Thea settles in Tasmania and into a new relationship. Bonded by grief, she and her partner make a life for themselves in Hobart. But years later, when tragedy strikes again, all Thea's old grief and guilt - together with unanswered questions - come to the surface. Against the backdrop of the pandemic and lockdowns, Thea begins to question the trust she has in her partner. She realises that if she wants to know the truth, she will need to come clean about her past. LISTEN ABOVE See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Evie Kemp: Livening up your winter wear

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 9, 2025 7:09 Transcription Available


    Winter can feel drab and we often end up reflecting that feeling in what we wear. Layers on layers can leave you feeling like there's not a lot of room to play. So, how can you keep things feeling fun while staying warm... and sustainable? Creative connoisseur Evie Kemp joined Jack Tame for a chat about livening up your winter wear while still keeping things sustainable. LISTEN ABOVE See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Dr Bryan Betty: Dislocated shoulders

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 9, 2025 4:36 Transcription Available


    This week Chris Woakes the English cricket batting star dislocated his shoulder in the England-India test, then yesterday came out to bat with a dislocated shoulder at number 11 to try and save the test! Very brave stuff! What is a shoulder dislocation? The shoulder is the most mobile joint in the body. It's a ‘ball and socket' joint, however sockets aren't deep enough so the joint is supported by tendons and muscles. Occasionally the ball can come completely out of the socket – a dislocation. It can dislocate forward, which is common, or backwards, which is less common. How do they happen and what are the signs? Generally an accident that puts severe force on the shoulder can cause dislocation. For example: Falling from ladder and holding on it. Collision in sport or falling onto an outstretched arm. Car accidents. Some people have very flexible shoulders and can dislocate with simple things like rolling over in bed, hanging out washing. Effects: severe pain, unable to move the shoulder, occasional numbness down arm. You can see the deformity – can see the ball out of the socket, bulging out. What do we do about it? See a doctor who will examine the shoulder. An Xray to make sure it is not broken. Then pop it back into place with light sedation or anaesthetic. Then keep the arm in a sling for 1-2 weeks, avoiding lifting or using the shoulder for six weeks. It can take up to 3-4 months to fully heal. Physio is often important to strengthen the shoulder and get moving. Are there any complications? You can fracture the shoulder. Can tear cartilage (or lining) of the shoulder. Sometimes the tendons and muscles supporting the shoulder tear – call this a rotator cuff tear. Nerve damage can occur. Sometimes requires surgery. Can become recurrent and requires surgery to stop it popping out: orthopaedic surgeon. LISTEN ABOVE See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Full Show Podcast: 09 August 2025

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 9, 2025 117:09 Transcription Available


    On the Saturday Morning with Jack Tame Full Show Podcast for Saturday 9 August 2025, Australian idol legend Guy Sebastian joins Jack in studio for a chat about releasing album number ten, and gives a very special performance of a brand new track. Jack considers his experiences with the NYC subway compared to Auckland's new CRL. A hearty recipe for the weekend, Rosa Flanagan of Two Raw Sisters shares a how-to for her Slow Cooked Moroccan Lamb and Pumpkin dish. Ruud Kleinpaste reckons it's about getting warm enough to get back into the garden. Plus, Catherine Raynes shares details on a brand new Kiwi tale of resilience, The Unlikely Doctor by Timoti Te Moke. Get the Saturday Morning with Jack Tame Full Show Podcast every Saturday on iHeartRadio, or wherever you get your podcasts. LISTEN ABOVESee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Ruud Kleinpaste: It's time to start gardening again

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 9, 2025 5:04 Transcription Available


    It's been a weird winter – cool and often wet. Indeed, I grew a few edibles in my tunnel house after most of the tomatoes had been removed. With rubbish weather I tend to divert to bird hobbies, rather than vegie-garden maintenance. But in early August things become a bit more positive, and today that was highlighted when I visited my old mate Mike (a Scottish builder with heaps of Scottish humour). He had already planted small strawberry plants under a cover of dense pea-straw – yes, next summer's fruit extravaganza: STRAWBERRIES! New Zealand Gardener usually gives you the latest varieties available. I had totally forgotten that I could have planted them a month or so ago, here on the port hills! Time to become a lot less lazy! Friable, well-draining soil with heaps of organic material in the top layers. Some granular, general fertiliser (not too much – just a bit) so that the roots will lick their food on the warmer, early-Spring days. The pea-straw (and mulch) protects plants from heavy frosts (and later on as a medium on which the developing fruit will stay in dryer conditions – not on wet soil). Go to your local garden centre and ask the local experts what kind of strawberry varieties work well in your neighbourhood – I bet they'll have Cama Rosa and Camino Real as their “short day” varieties (they can be planted in May-June). Other varieties, such as Aromas, Seascape, and San Andreas are day-neutral and can be planted in spring. While the strawberries are slowly getting in their winter development, it may be useful to take a look at your rhubarb. This plant tends to be reasonably tolerant of a bit of frost – if the frosts are heavy and mean, you might find that patience will be a good virtue. I saw it growing in Mongolia in the wild (permafrost), in the deserts (dry as a bone), with big weta-like critters hiding underneath! It's a great crop if you're into crumbles and fruity bits for breakfast (with muesli and yoghurt and soaked sultanas) and stuff like rhubarb pies. In good hot summers it might take a break in the hottest period of the year. In the North/hot areas, it may pay to allocate a cooler spot and some shade for the warmest period of the day to stop it “bolting” – the flower stalks can be broken off, the edges of the leaves can become beautifully red, but it's a sign of the breakdown of chlorophyll and hence the beginning of summer die-back. Rhubarb requires a nice, fertile free-draining soil, so if you've got heavy clay soil break it up and add heaps of compost to make it friable. Alternatively: plant it above the soil level (in a raised bed). I reckon you can even grow it in a big container with good mix, but keep it watered, so it doesn't dry out too much. Fertiliser: rhubarb loves compost and manure (yes, some rotted cow poo/sheep/pig or horse – preferably gone through a composting cycle). Keep the plant base free of weeds. Pests and diseases are usually of no great concern – slugs and snails are your main problem and they will only go on the leaves. Copper sprays may prevent leaf-spots, but they're not a big deal usually. Harvest: cut the stems for consumption and use leaves in compost bins (all good – the oxalic acid is not going to harm anything in that bin!). Alternatively, the large leaves are great on the ground as “weed mat”. Look around for various cultivars – if you are lucky you might find some of the old-fashioned bright red varieties that look fantastic: Moulin Rouge, Crimson Crumble, Cherry Red, Ruby Red, Glaskin's Perpetual… LISTEN ABOVE See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Paul Stenhouse: ChatGPT-5, Emirates bans use of power banks on board

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 9, 2025 5:17 Transcription Available


    Chat GPT-5 is here – what does it mean? What does it do? They claim it's the best yet at creative writing and coding, and apparently just feels more human-like in its responses. It will also make information up 25% less than GPT-4. Importantly, they've trained the model to fail gracefully when posed with tasks that it cannot solve, which is better than it taking shortcuts or lying about finishing it. It is much better with health related questions too, according to its benchmarks. Users can pick from four preset personalities—Cynic, Robot, Listener, and Nerd. Something you'll notice if you've never paid for ChatGPT, or used another provider, is a new thing called "reasoning". This is effectively where the AI talks to itself a little, and spends time "thinking" through the question before answering. ChatGPT is huge They say they now have 700 million weekly active users of ChatGPT, 5 million paying business users, and 4 million developers utilizing the API. The company is not yet profitable. It plans to raise $40 billion this year and is on a pace to pull in revenue of $20 billion by year's end. If you've got an Emirates flight later this year, there's a new rule about power banks Emirates will ban the use of power banks aboard its flights and only allow passengers to bring one such device onto the plane. The airline says the "significant growth" in customers using power banks has led to a rising number of lithium battery-related incidents during flight across the industry. The airline also wants the power banks stored somewhere they can be quickly removed in case they set fire. LISTEN ABOVE See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Tara Ward: Wednesday, Outlander: Blood of My Blood, Stolen: Heist of the Century

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 8, 2025 4:31 Transcription Available


    Wednesday Tim Burton's quirky Addams Family drama is back for a second season. Nevermore is back in session as Wednesday tangles with a new principal, a devious campus stalker and a waning grip on her psychic powers (Netflix). Outlander: Blood of My Blood A romantic saga that unfolds across time. From the battlefields of World War I to the rugged Highlands of 18th century Scotland, two fated couples must defy the forces that seek to tear them apart, intersecting in surprising and unforeseen ways (Neon). Stolen: Heist of the Century In 2003, a gang of thieves rob the impenetrable Diamond Center, Antwerp; who was behind one of the world's biggest heists and how did they pull it off? (Netflix) LISTEN ABOVE See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Kevin Milne: Guest speaking at St Bede's 100th Annual Old Boy's Dinner

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 8, 2025 7:19 Transcription Available


    Kevin Milne is off this afternoon, flying down to Christchurch for a very special event. He'll be a guest speaker at his old college's, St Bede, 100th Annual Old Boy's Dinner. This is a special moment for Kevin, as he wouldn't describe his time at the college as the most successful. LISTEN ABOVE See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Rosa Flanagan: Slow Cooked Moroccan Lamb and Pumpkin

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 8, 2025 6:02 Transcription Available


    Margo Flanagan, one half of the Two Raw Sisters, is offering up a delicious recipe for slow cooked Moroccan lamb and pumpkin. Serves: 6 Time: 2.5 – 3 hours — 150 mins Ingredients 2 tbsp cooking oil 1 red onion - thinly sliced 1 carrot - diced 4 cloves garlic - crushed and chopped 2 tbsp tomato paste 1 tbsp freshly grated ginger 1 tbsp cumin seeds 1 tbsp smoked paprika 2 tsp ground turmeric 1 stick of cinnamon ½ - 1 tsp chilli flakes 1 cup dried prunes 400g canned tomatoes 2 cups vegetable stock 4 lamb shanks OR 1x 400g can of chickpeas, rinsed and drained 2 cups chopped pumpkin - deseeded and skin left on Herby Lemon Millet 1 cup millet 2 cups water 1 cup herbs - chopped 1 lemon - zest and juice 2 tbsp extra virgin olive oil ½ cup almonds - roasted and chopped Method Heat the oil in a large pot over medium heat. In the pot, add the onion and carrot. Cook for about 5 minutes, stirring occasionally, until softened. Add garlic, tomato paste, ginger, cumin seeds, paprika, turmeric, cinnamon stick, chilli flakes and prunes. Cook for another minute or two until fragrant. To the pot, add the canned tomatoes, vegetable stock, lamb shanks or chickpeas and chopped pumpkin. Bring to a gentle simmer. Cover with a lid. If you are adding lamb shanks, cook on low heat for 2.5 -3 hours, or until the lamb is tender. Or if you are using chickpeas, cook on low for 30-40 minutes. While the stew is cooking, prepare the millet. Place in a pot with the water. Bring to a boil, then cover and reduce to a simmer for 7 minutes. Remove from heat and let it sit, covered, for 5 minutes. Fluff with a fork and stir through the herbs, lemon zest and juice, olive oil, and chopped almonds. Add a generous scoop of herby lemon millet to each bowl and top with the stew. Any leftovers will keep in an airtight container in the fridge for up to 4 days. Alternatively you can freeze for up to 3 months. Simple Swaps / Additions You can also use a slow cooker for this recipe, follow the same method of frying off the onion, carrot, spices and prunes in a pan, then transfer that to the crockpot along with the rest of the ingredients. Cook on low for 6–8 hours or on high for 2.5-3 hours. Change the red onion for brown onion or a leek. Use celery or zucchini instead of a carrot. Use 1/2 tsp of ground cinnamon instead of 1 stick. Use dried apricots or dates instead of prunes. Use kumara (sweet potato) or potatoes instead of pumpkin. Instead of lamb shanks you could use diced lamb or beef. Change up the millet for any other grain such as couscous, quinoa or brown rice. Use whatever herbs you love / have such as coriander or parsley. Use any other nut or seed instead of almonds such as walnuts, pumpkin seeds or cashews. Low FODMAP - replace the red onion with 3 stalks of celery and leave out the garlic and prunes completely. Check that the vegetable stock you use is low FODMAP, alternatively use 2 cups of water + 1 tbsp miso paste. LISTEN ABOVE See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Francesca Rudkin: Weapons and Mr Burton

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 8, 2025 8:27 Transcription Available


    Weapons When all but one child from the same classroom mysteriously vanish on the same night at exactly the same time, a community is left questioning who or what is behind their disappearance. Mr Burton The story of the wild school boy Rich Jenkins, son of a boozy miner and an English teacher who recognised his talent, Philip Burton. LISTEN ABOVE See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Jack Tame: Love a bit of subterranean mass-transit

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 8, 2025 4:41 Transcription Available


    When I first moved to New York, I spent my first year living in a railroad apartment above an Ecuadorian fruit shop on Second Avenue. It was a character-building experience. I went weeks without heating or hot water in winter, and my windows had almost no effect whatsoever in keeping out the ceaseless sound of trucks thundering past my bedroom enroute to restock the city. When I arrived they'd just start construction on the Second Ave subway, a few blocks from my home. The project was hitting a few speedbumps. Bedrock turned out to be deeper than anticipated, a worker nearly died after being stuck in waste-deep slop on site, and what was supposed to be a controlled explosion sent rocks flying all over a busy Manhattan intersection. Curiously, the Second Ave subway route was first proposed in the 1920s, which Wikipedia tells was about the same time that planners first mused over the possibility of the Morningside Deviation, a train tunnel in central Auckland. Stage One of the Second Avenue subway was a 3.2km tunnel. The Central Rail Link is 3.5km. Second Ave ended up costing more than $7 Billion. The Central Rail Link blew out however many times but at last check was $5.5 Billion. The weird thing about a big underground tunnel development is that most of us never fully appreciate the scale of the work. It's obvious I suppose, but even if you live and work in the city, while you get used to a few cones and traffic delays up above the ground, you have no real perspective about the extraordinary activities happening somewhere beneath your feet. Auckland Transport has this week released its updated transit map with the CRL stations. Apparently they've done 1600 test runs so far. They've run trains more than 5000km – Kaitaia to Bluff two-and-a-half times. They've been driving trains at 70kmph directly underneath Auckland's CBD and at no point have I felt so much of a rumble or a shudder. I reckon the vast majority of us up top have been absolutely none-the-wiser. The kid in me who briefly considered becoming an engineer (and even volunteered to spend a school holiday touring the Lyttelton Tunnel) can't help but think that's pretty cool. After riding along on a VIP tour yesterday with all the politicians and movers-and-shakers, Auckland Mayor Wayne Brown was in vintage form. How was it? He was asked. “It was a ride in a train.” He said. “We don't want excitement.” Well, maybe not. But guilty as charged. Maybe it's the engineering. Maybe it's the people-watching. Maybe it's the broader sense of momentum and life, but whether it's a tube, an underground, or a subway, I love a bit of subterranean mass-transit. You know you're a nerd when you're less excited about the opening of New Zealand's first IKEA than the transport connection you'll take to get there. After years of construction, the Second Ave subway opened two weeks before I moved back home. One of the last things I did on my last few days in New York was ride a loop. Not because I had somewhere to be but because I wanted to see what all that fuss and money and effort had created, out of sight, underneath my feet. I can't wait to do the same thing here. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Jack Tame: New Zealand v Aotearoa - what does this bill achieve?

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 2, 2025 4:42 Transcription Available


    Are you better off than you were two years ago? Are you bathing in the soothing waters of the long-promised economic recovery? Is your future more secure? Is your food more affordable? Your insurance? Your rates? Is your road smoother? Are your children better educated? Is your water less polluted? Or do you think some of our most senior leaders' time and attention is better used fussing over measures like the order of words on our passports and the transfer of payWave fees from a surcharge to the main bill? The latest folly, announced by our Foreign Minister on a week in which Gaza was stricken by starvation, and the US thanked us for opening an FBI office here by increasing proposed trade tariffs, seeks to enshrine the name ‘New Zealand' in law. Ah yes, what a pressing issue. Tell you what, between that and the passport reordering, those tens or hundreds of thousands of kids who've fled to Australia are gonna be clambering over one another to get back home. Here's my view on the name of our country: call it what you want. You want to call it Aotearoa? Fine. You want to call it New Zealand? Fine. You want to combine the two? Go for it. You do you. The thing about language is it's fluid. It changes over time. There's a reason we don't all speak in Shakespearean prose. And it has nothing to do with compulsion. To those who say an increasing use of Aotearoa is some sort of affront to our collective values, I'd have thought freedom of expression is a value more worthy of protection. And for what it's worth, if New Zealand First was trying to enshrine the name ‘Aotearoa' in law, I'd have the same response. One of the justifications given for this member's bill is that using Aotearoa threatens NZ Inc., our international brand. Is there any evidence that our exporters are being compelled en-masse to send their products overseas with the name Aotearoa, instead of New Zealand? Who, pray tell, is risking that international brand value by forcing this change on the packaging of our top products? I'd suggest it's a pretty unsophisticated exporter who would voluntarily confuse their international customers. Or, you know, maybe this just isn't really a big deal. I've a real distaste for performative politics that either drum up angst about a problem that doesn't exist or do something symbolic at the expense of real action. I never cared for the trend of councils and governments declaring Climate Emergencies and patting themselves on the back, while simultaneously doing nothing new in a policy sense. There is a very simple way to see through this specific bill. Consider the timing. If the name of New Zealand is seriously so threatened, why didn't New Zealand First introduce this bill 12 months ago? Why not six years ago? Why not negotiate it into the coalition agreement when they formed a government? My instinct with this kind of move is always the same. Don't ask ‘What does this achieve?' or ‘Why is this an issue? Instead, ask ‘what are they try to distract us from?' The ‘meh' jobs report? The lame economic growth figures? The gang numbers ticking over 10,000 for the first time ever, this week? Or could it possibly be the fact that a few hours before the New Zealand (name of state) member's bill was announced, Australia and the UK achieved comparatively lower trade tariffs with the United States, while our government's top officials were apparently surprised to learn that our tariff had been increased? Actually, maybe we should call ourselves Aotearoa. Who knows? It might have confused Donald Trump just long enough to keep us at 10%. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Cliff Curtis: Kiwi actor on his role in Chief of War, telling Polynesian stories to a global audience

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 2, 2025 14:22 Transcription Available


    A man of many talents, Cliff Curtis is a Hollywood star hailing all the way from Rotorua. He's known for his metamorphosis, carving out credits in a mixture of major franchises and more personal productions, and his latest project feels like a blend of both. Curtis is starring in Jason Momoa's ‘Chief of War', which tells a tale of the turn of the 18th century, when the four kingdoms of Hawai'i were at war. He told Jack Tame he's very proud and humbled to be a part of this production. “As a storyteller in the screen industry for the last three decades at least, we've managed to tell a variation of stories from our small corner of the world,” Curtis said. “But you know, this series, when led by the likes of Jason Momoa and his co-creator Thomas Pa‘a Sibbett, they can bring scale to the narrative.” “It's a big deal for us.” LISTEN ABOVE See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Estelle Clifford: Folk Bitch Trio - Now Would Be a Good Time

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 2, 2025 9:01 Transcription Available


    The debut album from Australian musical group Folk Bitch Trio, ‘Now Would Be a Good Time' is filled with beautiful harmonies and dark wit. Estelle Clifford joined Jack Tame to give her thoughts on the album and the way the trio puts their own spin on the genre. LISTEN ABOVE See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Catherine Raynes: Summer Island and Red Star Down

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 2, 2025 4:29 Transcription Available


    Summer Island by Kristin Hannah Years ago, Nora Bridge walked out on her marriage and left her daughters behind. She has since become a famous radio talkshow host and newspaper columnist beloved for her moral advice. Her youngest daughter, Ruby, is a struggling comedienne who uses her famous mother as fuel for her bitter, cynical humour. When the tabloids unearth a scandalous secret from Nora's past, their estrangement suddenly becomes dramatic. Nora is injured in an accident and a glossy magazine offers Ruby a fortune to write a tell-all about her mother. Under false pretences, Ruby returns home to take care of the woman she hasn't spoken to for almost a decade. Nora insists they retreat to Summer Island, to the lovely old house on the water where Ruby grew up, a place filled with childhood memories of love and joy and belonging. There Ruby is also reunited with her first love and his brother. Once, the three of them had been best friends, inseparable. Until the summer that Nora had left and everyone's hearts had been broken... Red Star Down by DB John A family man is poisoned at Kuala Lumpur International Airport. A Russian intelligence officer is assassinated in a Washington hotel. And a real-estate mogul and reality-TV star has just become the 45th President of the United States. A terrible conspiracy is about to unravel and three people find themselves caught in the crosshairs... A CIA agent whose past missions refuse to stay buried. A student in Moscow who dares to challenge the Russian president on live TV. And a North Korea spy embedded in the White House who secretly admires the man he is working to undermine. LISTEN ABOVE See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Mike Yardley: Leading lights of Liverpool

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 2, 2025 8:13 Transcription Available


    "Tucked between North Wales and the serene good looks of the Lake District, gritty, vital Liverpool provides an indelible and grounded dose of "real" urban England. It proved to be one of my favourite destinations on my whistle-stop romp with Trafalgar's Real Britain tour. Yes, Beatles fans flock to Liverpool to learn about the Fab Four's early days, but the city's appeal extends far beyond those towering music legends." Read Mike's full article here. LISTEN ABOVESee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Kevin Milne: Interesting tidbits and travel plans

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 2, 2025 6:30 Transcription Available


    With winter well and truly set in, some are dreaming of clearer skies across the sea. Kevin Milne has a trip to London coming up, him and his wife deciding to pop over and visit two of their sons on their home turf. Although this is a trip to see family, there are a few interesting details that Kevin shared with Jack Tame. LISTEN ABOVE See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Dougal Sutherland: Blue Zones and the principles of living longer

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 2, 2025 10:01 Transcription Available


    Blue Zones are an area of interest for many, geographical locations in which people live longer than average. Some such areas are in Sardinia, others in Okinawa in Japan, Nicoya in Costa Rica, and Ikaria in Greece – all of which have a significant number of people living into their 90s or hundreds. But why are these people living so much longer than average? Dr Dougal Sutherland delves into the research and reasons behind the extended lifespans of those in Blue Zones. LISTEN ABOVE See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Full Show Podcast: 02 August 2025

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 2, 2025 117:21 Transcription Available


    On the Saturday Morning with Jack Tame Full Show Podcast for Saturday 2nd August 2025, Kiwi acting legend Cliff Curtis joins Jack to discuss his starring role in the brand-new series spearheaded by Jason Momoa, Chief of War. Jack considers the bill that would enshrine the name New Zealand into law. Dougal Sutherland picks up on Jack's interest in Blue Zones, joining the show to share what contributes to longer life in these areas, and just how realistic it is to achieve in alternative environments. And hot off judging awards for the best New Zealand pie, Nici Wickes gives in to Jack's sweet side with her personal recipe for pie of the year. Get the Saturday Morning with Jack Tame Full Show Podcast every Saturday on iHeartRadio, or wherever you get your podcasts. LISTEN ABOVESee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Ruud Kleinpaste: Common nutrient deficiencies in the garden

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 2, 2025 5:12 Transcription Available


    Plants need a couple of really important chemicals to give them a healthy life and growth. We all know the top three elements: Nitrogen (N), Phosphate (P) and Potash (K), but Magnesium (Mg) should also be in the line-up of important nutrients A lack of any of the mentioned nutrients will show specific symptoms on the Plants: A lack of Nitrogen (which supports leaf-growth) makes leaves looks small and weird – often quite yellow, especially the older leaves. Nitrogen is often transported by the plant from old leaves to the younger leaves, to give them some small chance to survive and keep photosynthesis going. Phosphorus deficiency (important for root growth): Purpling of leaves; you can see that clearly in tomatoes. In severe cases the leaves will start to die around the edges. A lack of Potash (potassium – stimulates flowers and fruits) often shows up in the form of chlorosis (yellowing of the leaves in the area between the veins). Even the young leaves are struggling and show wrinkling, which often causes them to die. Few Flowers and/or fruit is a dead give-away. A Magnesium deficiency (stimulates Photosynthesis) is characterised by distinct curling of the leaves as well as that Interveinal chlorosis (yellowing between the veins) mentioned before. Sometimes the leaves get a red tinge or lots of brown dead spots on the leaves… a real mess! The Micronutrients are needed by plants in much smaller quantities, yet they are absolutely important to keep your plants in good condition A lack of Micronutrients can create all sorts of troubles: stunted growth, dark green veins in yellowing leaves, die-back of stems and twigs, smaller leaves with die-back, leaf scorching, and discolouration… It's not difficult to find the symptoms. There are many types of fertilisers on the market: the “general fertilisers” often have an NPK code on the package – some are granular, some are in liquid form. Higher N will stimulate green matter (leaves). Higher Phosphate is great for root crops. Higher K stimulates Flowering and Fruit set. But the “Trace elements” are the packets that will look after most of the Micronutrients; we often forget those! Micronutrients also come in different formulae – some gardens (and soil conditions) need more than others. You can even buy some Nori (のり) at the supermarket: Japanese seaweed! It's harvested from the ocean, the largest nutrient trap on the Planet! It has lots of trace elements that are useful for your garden, made from rinsed seaweed. Check that it has less than 4%, so you know it has been rinsed, and the amount of salt has been reduced – too much salt is not good for the plants! LISTEN ABOVE See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Cameron Douglas: Two Rivers 'Convergence' Sauvignon Blanc 2025, Marlborough

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 2, 2025 3:59 Transcription Available


    Two Rivers 'Convergence' Sauvignon Blanc 2025, Marlborough RRP from $22.00 Pungent, ripe, varietal and high energy. Aromas of red bellpepper and apple, fresh citrus peel and white peach, there's also green mango and cape gooseberry as well as fresh basil. On the palate – youthful, equally high energy with laser-like acidity, flavours of fresh fruits led by citrus, then tropical and white stone fruit. A high energy wine best enjoyed from day of purchase through 2029. Exceptional value. Food match: One of the many classic matches with sauvignon blanc is Oysters. Not everyone can do oysters, so steamed mussels work just as well. These first two are match of contrast – salty food needs a high acid wine. Another rule with food is that a richly textured food can have a higher acid wine for contrast; a dessert with cream or ice-cream should have a high acid wine like a sweet sauvignon blanc for contrast, as well as weight from the sugar in the wine. The match options with sauvignon blanc are endless. The season: A gift to the NZ wine sector with near perfect growing conditions. LISTEN ABOVE See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Paul Stenhouse: Microsoft becomes the second $4 trillion company, the further impact of tariffs on Apple

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 1, 2025 5:17 Transcription Available


    Microsoft becomes the second $4 trillion company All fuelled by the increased revenue from the Cloud Computing business, which provides compute for AI services. This is a huge win for Microsoft – the company that was absolutely written off in the mid 2000s and was expected to go the way of Yahoo. Microsoft is still second place to Amazon Web Services in the Cloud category. Their CFO announced they'll spend $30 billion on its AI infrastructure investments in the next quarter. Apple was the first US company to hit $1 trillion in 2018, first to hit $2 trillion in 2020, first to hit $3 trillion in 2022, so by that math, it should have hit $4 trillion in 2024, but Nvidia beat them. Nvidia only became a $1 trillion company in 2023 – two years ago! For context, $4 trillion would be like giving all 5.3 million New Zealanders USD $750,000 (NZD $1.2 million). Apple says Trump's tariffs will cost it another $1 billion That's on top of the $800 million the tech giant spent on tariffs during the June quarter. Quarterly revenue jumped 10% to $94 billion between April and June. Apple moved a chunk of iPhone production to India to avoid some of the China tariffs, but President Donald Trump is threatening 25% tariffs on Apple if it doesn't start producing more in the USA. LISTEN ABOVE See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Tara Ward: The Assassin, Outrageous, Murder in a Small Town

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 1, 2025 5:04 Transcription Available


    The Assassin A retired assassin reunites with her estranged son, but her dangerous past catches up with them, forcing them to go on the run together while uncovering a dark conspiracy that threatens their relationship (ThreeNow). Outrageous In the 1930s, 6 sisters refuse to play by the rules, and their often-scandalous lives make headlines around the world. Their tales involve betrayal, scandal, heartache, and even imprisonment (Neon). Murder in a Small Town Karl Alberg moves to the idyllic coastal town of Gibsons to become the new police chief and soothe a psyche that has been battered by big-city police work. Unfortunately, the gentle paradise has more than its share of secrets, and Karl needs to call upon all the skills that made him a world-class detective in solving the murders that, even in this seemingly idyllic setting, continue to wash up on his shore (TVNZ+). LISTEN ABOVE See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Francesca Rudkin: It Was Just An Accident and Bank of Dave 2: The Lone Ranger

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 1, 2025 8:29 Transcription Available


    It Was Just An Accident What begins as a minor accident sets in motion a series of escalating consequences. A co-production between Iran, France, and Luxembourg and explores political repression in Iran and morality. Bank of Dave 2: The Lone Ranger Dave Fishwick takes on a dangerous and formidable opponent than the big banks: Payday Loan Companies. Dave recruits Jessica and Oliver to his cause. Together they embark on a journey that will bring down an entire industry of predatory corporations. LISTEN ABOVE See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Nici Wickes: Individual Apple Pies

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 1, 2025 7:37 Transcription Available


    An apple pie, plain and simple, with no sugar added – these are a real favourite served with ice cream, cream, and cinnamon. Makes 6 individual pies Ingredients 1 kg apples, granny smith 1 cup water 2 x 400g blocks sweet short pastry Ice cream to serve Cream to serve Cinnamon to serve Method Set the oven at 200 C fan bake with an oven tray already in the oven to heat up. Grease large-sized (Texan) muffin tin. Prepare the apples by peeling, coring, and slicing, and placing with 1 cup of water into a saucepan with the lid on and gently cook for about 15 minutes. They should retain their shape without turning into pulp. Drain in a colander, reserving the juice which can be reduced to a syrup by simmering it for 5-8 minutes. Cool the apples completely before you start filling the pies. Please note apples do not need added sugar, as they are sweet enough. Now roll your pastry out and cut into circles about the size of a small saucer. Gently line the muffin tin holes with pastry. Patch up any tears or holes. Fill to 3/4 with the apples and then cover with another smaller round of pastry and pinch top to bottom to seal. Use a sharp knife to make a small cross on the top (this lets the steam out). Place on hot tray and bake for approx. 25 minutes near the bottom of the oven, as this makes sure the bottoms cooks. The pastry should be a lovely golden colour. Keep checking to making sure the edges of the pies aren't burning.  Cool in tins then gently remove from their tins. Serve with ice cream and clouds of whipped cream and a sprinkle of cinnamon with a small jug of the reserved apple syrup. LISTEN ABOVE See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Craig Geater: Kiwi bike mechanic on extensive career with the Tour de France

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 26, 2025 16:18 Transcription Available


    The Tour de France is reaching its final legs, with drama, gruelling climbs, and triumphant podiums all playing out across the world. Craig Geater is up close and personal with the professional cycling world, a bike mechanic with over 20 years of experience working with the Tour de France. He's worked with some of the sport's greatest riders and most successful team, and his currently the head mechanic for Australian outfit Team Jayco AlUla. Geater joined Jack Tame to break down what it's like working on something as grand as the Tour de France, his time as Lance Armstrong's personal mechanic, and the unique nature of the competition. LISTEN ABOVE See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Kate Hall: Elimination communication and the nappy free method

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 26, 2025 12:27 Transcription Available


    Taking care of babies can be complicated. With so many new tasks and new things you have to teach to a child, it can be tough sometimes to try something a little bit different. Since she gave birth, Kate Hall has been using Elimination Communication, otherwise known as infant potty training, and she joined Jack Tame to give an update on how that's working. LISTEN ABOVE See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Estelle Clifford: Billie Marten - Dog Eared

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 26, 2025 5:55 Transcription Available


    The fifth studio album from British singer-songwriter Billie Marten, ‘Dog Eared' is an album filled with nostalgia. The title comes from the practice of dog earring books, Marten having a fondness for marking up the books she reads – underlining passages, scribbling ideas in margins, and folding corners. It tells the story of who she was as she wrote and recorded the album, each song touching on a different childhood memory. Estelle Clifford joined Jack Tame to give her thoughts on the release. LISTEN ABOVE See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Mike Yardley: Sights and stories in York

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 26, 2025 8:34 Transcription Available


    "Few British cities can match eye-catching York and its wondrous layers of history. Northern England's walled city was founded by the ancient Romans, was conquered by the Vikings and also boasts a trove of medieval riches. The city's storied history is woven into virtually every brick and beam. All these ingredients underpin York's star-power, serving up a stirring sense of Ye Olde England, when tripping the UK. But it's so much more than just a living museum." Read Mike's full article here. LISTEN ABOVE See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Catherine Raynes: The Forsaken and Not Quite Dead Yet

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 26, 2025 4:20 Transcription Available


    The Forsaken by Matt Rogers In the twilight of his career, Logan learns he has been a vessel for furthering government interests, not a rogue hitman for a band of vigilantes. The revelation destroys him. But when Jorge Romero – an investigative reporter and Logan's oldest friend – is brutally and inexplicably murdered, Logan allows his fury to deliver him from despair. With an ally in Alice Mason, a homeless witness with a target on her back, Logan goes to war. Against whom, he isn't sure, but he knows powerful forces are at work behind the scenes. Now, to deliver justice, Logan and Alice must confront their demons and win a savage battle that could destroy their lives... even if they survive. Not Quite Dead Yet by Holly Jackson In seven days Jet Mason will be dead. Jet is the daughter of one of the wealthiest families in Woodstock, Vermont. Twenty-seven years old, she's still waiting for her life to begin. I'll do it later, she always says. She has time. Until Halloween night, when Jet is violently attacked by an unseen intruder. She suffers a catastrophic head injury. The doctor is certain that within a week, the injury will trigger a deadly aneurysm. Jet has never thought of herself as having enemies. But now she looks at everyone in a new light: her family, her former best friend turned sister-in-law, her ex-boyfriend. She has at most seven days, and as her condition deteriorates she has only her childhood friend Billy for help. But nevertheless, she's absolutely determined to finally finish something: Jet is going to solve her own murder. LISTEN ABOVE See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Full Show Podcast: 26 July 2025

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 26, 2025 117:01 Transcription Available


    On the Saturday Morning with Jack Tame Full Show Podcast for Saturday 26 July 2025, a man with up close and personal access to Tour de France, Kiwi bike mechanic Craig Geater joins the show to discuss his 21 years of experience on the Tour, his former years as Lance Armstrong's personal mechanic, and what it's like to travel behind his Jayco Ulula crew as they ride the mountains. Jack considers the unstoppable force of a viral moment. Francesca Rudkin gives her thoughts on whether the new Fantastic Four film meets expectations. Mike Yardley shares the sights and sounds of ancient British city York. And Estelle Clifford shares her favourite tracks from Yorkshire-born musician Billie Marten's new album Dog Eared. Get the Saturday Morning with Jack Tame Full Show Podcast every Saturday on iHeartRadio, or wherever you get your podcasts. LISTEN ABOVE See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Kevin Milne: Tough trading and the loss of iconic Kiwi enterprises

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 26, 2025 8:33 Transcription Available


    Times are tough, many businesses unable to survive the cost of living crisis and downturned economy. Cultural institutions and smaller businesses alike are closing up shop, and Kevin Milne is dismayed by the loss of Kiwi enterprises. One in particular, the colourful Matakana ceramics firm Morris & James, is particularly saddening for him. LISTEN ABOVE See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Lisa Dudson: KiwiSaver hardship withdrawals - impacts and other options

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 26, 2025 6:06 Transcription Available


    The number of Kiwis making withdrawals from their KiwiSaver due to hardship is on the rise. In the year to June, more than 50,000 were made, compared to 18,000 five years ago. Early withdrawals can have compounding effects on someone's financial future – so what other options are there? Lisa Dudson joined Jack Tame to delve into the topic and offer up some other ideas. LISTEN ABOVE See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Ruud Kleinpaste: More brilliant bugs with fabulous jobs

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 26, 2025 5:30 Transcription Available


    Last week we started to look at the jobs bugs do on Earth. This topic was launched by some teachers during the Blake Inspire sessions, out there in Nature. It became a bit of a game to question what their role is in ecological systems – especially critters that are usually perceived as a pain in the bum. Gardeners often complain about almost every creature that inhabits the soil; holes and tunnels, little hills of clay, and messy poos in vegetable gardens, lawns, and orchards are often not seen as beneficial; but many certainly are! These insects are the larvae and pupae of Crane Flies. Soil cleaning and dead wood in the soil – recyclers maintaining soil health. Pollinators are everywhere: butterflies, flies, native bees, wasps, parasitic wasps, hoverflies, beetles, thrips – it's a huge gig on the planet! These laay eggs in their hosts. Population control. Geotrupes spiniger – the Paua dungbeetle, introduced in New Zealand to put dung back into the soil. It not only puts fertiliser where it is most efficient but also returns carbon back into the soil where it is most needed (rather than in the air!). Then there are Mosquitoes! One of the most hated insects in our garden: some species bite humans. Males do not bite – they are great pollinators of our flowers. Mozzies are food for native birds, dragonflies, spiders, etc. Those famous mosquito larvae (often known as “wrigglers”) go up and down the pond and other water habitats. The very cool and useful thing they do is cleaning the “bacterial soup”. Wrigglers are also food for native aquatic insects: backswimmers, water-boatman, water striders, native fish, etc. If you think about it: Mozzies do some great jobs. To fuel this ecological system, all we need to do is make a tiny donation… … and be a bit more tolerant! LISTEN ABOVE See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Oskar Howell: Fonterra's On Farm Services incentive programme

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 26, 2025 3:47 Transcription Available


    What's the news? Fonterra has announced an On Farm Services incentive programme for qualifying farmer-shareholders. The scheme allows farmers who meet their cooperative difference standard, a baseline performance and efficiency standard, to receive what is effectively a $1,500 yearly subsidy to invest in on-farm technology or services. Ranges from animal performance tools from genetics companies, as well as pasture and data optimisation tools, and on-farm planting to improve carbon sequestration. Pasture Management: Apps and dashboards, AI and satellite imagery to manage and optimise pasture on farms. Data optimisation: Farmers deal with so much data flowing in through so many on-farm touchpoints, some services aggregate all that info into key insights farmers can rely on to make good decisions. Animal performance: Animal testing on their cows. Why it matters Obviously a massive deal – this contributes so much to on-farm costs and gives farmers a comfortable buffer to experiment with more technology that could be a massive help. It contributes to the trend of growing tech use on-farm by farmers. In a 2023 survey by DairyNZ, 18% of farmers reported using cow wearables (smart monitoring devices like collars or ear tags), compared to 3% in 2018. This growth translates to more than 820,000 cows now equipped with devices. It's great news because technology is helping farmers be more efficient in a world where they face more regulation and compliance requirements. Fonterra/NZ has a great reputation internationally for producing highly efficient, high-quality milk that's desirable compared to many other countries. It drew the attention of food conglomerates Mars and Nestle, who are kicking in to help fund the subsidy. LISTEN ABOVE See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Tara Ward: Washington Black, The Game, The Hunting Wives

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 25, 2025 4:29 Transcription Available


    Washington Black Follows the 19th century adventures of George Washington "Wash" Black, an 11-year-old boy on a Barbados sugar plantation who must flee after a gruesome death threatens to turn his life upside down (Disney+). The Game Detective Huw Miller is haunted by one case he failed to solve. As he settles into retirement, he suddenly thinks he has found the elusive killer in the shape of his new neighbour Patrick Harbottle (ThreeNow). The Hunting Wives Sophie trades city life for East Texas and falls into a wealthy socialite's magnetic orbit - where a clique of housewives hide deadly secrets (TVNZ+). LISTEN ABOVE See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Nici Wickes: Tamarillo Custard Cake

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 25, 2025 6:07 Transcription Available


    There's no other way to say it – this cake is magical! The way the simple batter settles into layers of custard and sponge seems impossible and yet it works, and the tamarillos are all tart and jammy and YUM. Ingredients 3 large eggs, room temp 2/3 cup sugar 90g butter, melted 1 ½ cups milk, lukewarm 1 tbsp vanilla extract Generous 1/2 cup plain flour 1 ½ cups scooped and chopped tamarillos (about XX) Icing sugar for dusting cake Whipped cream or yoghurt to serve Method Preheat oven to 190 C. Grease and line a 20x20cm cake tin with baking paper. Put a saucepan on with milk and butter and heat to lukewarm – this will melt the butter. Separate eggs into two mixing bowls. Beat the egg yolks and sugar until pale and light. Add in flour and mix until combined. Slowly add warm milk, beating until everything is well mixed together. Beat the egg whites until the stiff peak stage. Fold this into the batter gently, a third at a time until completely combined.  The batter is very thin at this stage, but don't worry. Pour batter into the baking dish and scatter over chopped tamarillo. They will sink into the cake as it bakes. Bake for approx. 50-60 minutes or until the top is browned and cake doesn't wobble. Cool and dust with icing sugar. LISTEN ABOVE See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Francesca Rudkin: The Fantastic Four: First Steps and Four Letters of Love

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 25, 2025 8:01 Transcription Available


    The Fantastic Four: First Steps Forced to balance their roles as heroes with the strength of their family bond, the Fantastic Four must defend Earth from a ravenous space god called Galactus and his enigmatic Herald, Silver Surfer. Four Letters of Love Nicholas and Isabel are made for each other, but as destiny pulls them together, family, passion and faith drives them apart. As they embark on journeys of heartache and misplaced love, fate soon contrives to pull the threads of their lives together. LISTEN ABOVE See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Jack Tame: The Coldplay kiss cam and what it reveals about human nature

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 25, 2025 4:54 Transcription Available


    In the end it was only a matter of time. It took a day or two of virality for the CEO caught cheating in the now truly infamous Coldplay kiss cam to publicly announce his departure from the company. I'm frankly surprised it took much longer for the woman caught canoodling in his arms to do the same thing. She was, after all, the Chief People Officer for the same company. On top of what I can only imagine is a personal calamity, the incident strikes me as a fairly grave professional conflict of interest. Indeed, the company that employed them both has announced that she is now gone, too. I'm not gonna pretend to be all high and mighty. Like however many hundreds of millions or billions of people around the World, I found myself titillated by the video. It's so dumb. So clumsy. Perfect fodder for a viral sensation. But in the last few days, as the stories have continued, I've also found myself thinking a bit more about what the whole thing says about us more generally. As consumers and sharers of information on the internet, loling, liking, and sharing, there is no way for us to collectively manage a degree of proportionality in a viral screw-up. They did the deed and they can suffer the consequences, you might argue. Sure, but at the same time, these people didn't commit a crime. They have been dishonest, absolutely. Unprofessional? For sure. But while I don't want to be too much of a downer, I can only imagine that right now, it feels like the price they've each paid is the complete and absolute destruction of their entire lives. And even if you do think that in this instance they deserve the consequences whatever they might be, what's to say you'll feel the same way the next time someone goes viral? There is no controlling the wildfire. And once it's shared and shared and shared again, the scale of a viral humiliation compounds faster than at any point in human history. And how about their families? Would you want to find out your husband or partner or parent was cheating? Most of us might say yes, painful as it might be, that truth in that situation is for the best. But what if it meant a fifth of the world's population found out at the same time? What if it meant every student at your kids' school knew what had happened and would bring it up for the next twenty years. Again, I'm not being miserable and saying it wasn't funny. It was funny! My point is that once a moment like this hits the internet, there is absolutely no controlling it. And there's a little sliver of this whole saga that has felt a bit Black Mirror. A few years ago, I read that amazing book, ‘So You've Been Publicly Shamed', by Jon Ronson. It had some extraordinary examples of people who'd gone viral for saying or doing really dumb, offensive things. But it also articulated something primal, something a bit ugly, a hunger in as a species to hunt as a pack, and the collective glee we take in casting someone aside and making an example of them in public. No policy, no force on Earth can stop a viral moment. It just has to burn out. There is no firebreak, no finger in the dyke. That video will have been viewed by eyeballs in every country and on every continent. But while that video said a lot about human nature, arguably its spread around the world has said just as much. Are you not entertained? See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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