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Recording date: 2018-09-20 Tweet John Papa https://twitter.com/john_papa Ward Bell https://twitter.com/wardbell Sam Julien https://twitter.com/samjulien Notes: (0:00:59) you've got javascript, what do you do? (0:02:30) Taylor Swift - Shake it Off - from the mailbag (0:04:04) Sam talks about his time at a non-profit to help upgrade a project (0:04:35) Sam talks about using Hot Towel, Gulp, Bower and npm (0:05:00) Sam talks about his Angular v1 app https://angularjs.org/ (0:05:20) Hot Towel https://johnpapa.net/hottowel/ (0:06:00) Sam talks about adding ES6 (0:06:23) Gulp https://gulpjs.com/ (0:06:37) Babel https://babeljs.io/ (0:07:00) WebPack https://webpack.js.org/ (0:07:19) Sam went to NgConf to learn about the next version of Angular https://www.ng-conf.org/ (0:07:50) Angular https://angular.io/ (0:08:03) Sam talks about where he looked for guidance on upgrading Angular (0:08:40) Ward asks Sam if Gulp and WebPack are comparable (0:10:00) Sam talks about issues he faced with Webpack and how they tackled it (0:12:21) Sam talks about how they approached the upgrade in terms of the infrastructure (0:12:58) Sam says nobody was talking about how the mental shift of starting Angular apps changed from v1 to v2 (0:13:30) Ward talks about the tool change shift (0:13:50) Ward discusses how he shifted from Gulp to the Angular CLI for builds (0:17:29) John asks Sam about the churn in JavaScript tooling (0:18:11) Sam compares angular.js to jQuery (0:18:21) Ward coins the phrase "Script Kitty" (0:20:39) Sam refers to the Indiana Jones swap https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gU35Tgtlmg (0:21:23) Ward asks Sam if he found a strategy that worked in upgrading old to new angular (0:21:48) ngupgrade https://angular.io/guide/upgrade (0:23:00) Sam talks about Change detection in upgrades (0:23:30) John asks Sam ho wlong the upgrade took for his team (0:24:00) Sams talks about how long it took him and his team to upgrade (0:26:29) Sam says he was allowed 30% of their time on technical debt to upgrade/refactor (0:25:33) John asks Sam if the time investment was worth the upgrade (0:27:10) Ward proposes that it may be better to re-do the app vs upgrade (0:28:13) Sam talks about how to weigh the factors for upgrade vs re-do (0:34:02) Sam talks about the unit of work pattern https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/aspnet/mvc/overview/older-versions/getting-started-with-ef-5-using-mvc- 4/implementing-the-repository-and-unit-of-work-patterns-in-an-asp-net-mvc-application (0:34:27) John asks if it's good to look at how long the app took to write in the first place, when upgrading (0:41:51) Ward says it often is faster to rewrite the code than upgrade it (0:43:54) Ward is deeply suspicious (0:48:50) Gatsby https://www.gatsbyjs.org/ (0:52:25) Someone to follow - Katerina Skroumpelou https://twitter.com/psybercity (0:52:53) Someone to follow - Pamela Ocampo https://twitter.com/pmocampo?lang=en (0:53:33) Someone to follow - https://twitter.com/jdjuan Juan Herrera https://twitter.com/jdjuan?lang=en ngColumbia (0:54:00) Someone to follow - Brandon Roberts https://twitter.com/brandontroberts?lang=en Resources Auth0 https://auth0.com/ https://AngularMix.com AngularMix event in Orlando https://www.amazon.com/Practical-Object-Oriented-Design-Ruby-Addison-Wesley/dp/0321721330 Sandi Metz https://www.sandimetz.com/products/ and books http://www.poodr.com/ Martin Fowler https://martinfowler.com/ Jack Welch quote https://www.crn.com/news/channel-programs/18820055/jack-welch-on-success-regrets-and-values.htm

Panel: Divya Sasidharan Charles Max Wood Joe Eames Chris Fritz Erik Hanchett John Papa Special Guest: No Guest(s) In this episode, the panel talks amongst themselves on the topic: how does one contribute to opensource work? They discuss their various ways that they contribute, such as speaking at conferences, recording videos for YouTube, podcasting, among others. Check-out today’s episode to get some insight and inspiration of how YOU can contribute to YOUR community!  Show Topics: 1:31 – Erik: Contributing to opensource – and being a good resource for the community. Contributing and still making a living. If people want to make this more sustainable and doing work for the community. 2:26 – Chuck: What do you been by “contributing” – because people could think that “code contributions” would be it. 2:50 – Erik: Answering people’s questions in a chat, code contributions, or doing a podcast or doing a blog posts. I think there are a lot of ways to contribute. Really anything to make their lives and work easier. 3:33 – Panelist: Can we go around and ask the panel individually what THEY do? It could be as simple as mentoring someone at your work. I’m curious to see what the panelist members have done. Sometimes you can get paid for those contributions. 4:40 – Panelist: I am super scared to contribute source code. I really love organizing things: Meetups, conferences, etc. That’s my favorite sort of work. It is also terrifying, though, too. Educational content and organizing conferences are my favorite ways to contribute. 6:10 – Panelist: Why is that attractive for you? 6:22 – Panelist: That’s a good question. I’ve already started planning for the 2022 conference. It’s very physical – there are people that are present. Very direct interaction. My second favorite is sometimes I will teach at local boot camp, and the topic is about interviewing. There is interaction there, too. 8:32 – Panelist: Why do you think organizing conferences is useful? 8:46 – Panelist: Top way is that I will hear stories after the fact. “Oh I came to the conference, met this person, and now I have a new job that pays 30% more...thank you!” Stories like that are rewarding. It’s a ripple effect. A conference the main thing you are putting out there are videos (main product) going to YouTube. The people that are there, at the conference, are interacting people and they are making friends and making contacts. It inspires them to do better. John Papa just goes out there to talk into the hallway. You can talk to Chris Fritz in the hall. Make yourself available. You are the celebrities and people want to meet you. 12:20 – Panel talks about how desperate they are to talk to Chris. 12:36 – Panelist: Going to conferences and meeting other people. 13:08 – Panelist: Taking part of conferences in other ways. That’s something that you do Divya Sasidharan? 13:33 – Divya: It depends on your personality. You get to speak as a speaker, because you get visibility fast. I don’t think you don’t have to speak if you don’t want to speak. Anything within your community that is beneficial. Or the one-to-one interactions are great. Having a conversation with another person that cannot respond. It’s nice to give a speech because it’s a one-way conversation. I like the preparation part of it. The delivery is the nerves, afterwards is a high because it’s over with. I really like writing demos. For the demos I put in a lot of time into it. It gives me the space and time constraint to work on those demos. 16:10 – Do you like the preparation or the delivery? 16:20 – Preparation part that I do not like as much because it is nerve-wrecking, and then the anticipation to go up there on stage. 16:55 – Panelist: I am nervous until when it starts. Once I start talking – well that’s it! Can’t go back now. 17:26 – John: I have given a few talks at a conference. 17:39 – Panelist: Doing good and contributing. I knew John Papa when he was in Microsoft in 2000/2001. I read about it. Everyone knew about him. It would be so GREAT to meet John Papa, and now we are friends! We get to talk about personal stuff and I learn from him. 18:42 – Chris: I have had moments like that, too. Act like they are a normal person. 19:01 – Chuck: After I walk off the stage people want to talk to me afterwards. 19:24 – John: For my personal style, I learn about talking at conferences. I spend a lot of times building a demo. I don’t spend a lot of times with decks. I work on the code, the talk separately. I whip that up quickly, so I don’t This is the story I am going to tell – that’s what I tell myself before I do a talk at a conference. Afterwards, people come up to you years later – and they give you these awesome feedback comments. It’s a huge reward and very fulfilling. There was someone in this world you were able to impact. That’s why I like teaching. I watch the sessions on YouTube. I want to have deep conversations with people. You are missing out if you aren’t talking to people at the conference. 23:26 – Panelist: Yeah, I agree. I do a lot of YouTube videos. I write a blog for a few years on Node and such. Then I got into videos, and helping new developers. Videos on Vue.js. Like you, Joe, I try to combine the two. If I can help myself, and OTHERS, that is great. I promote my own courses, my own affiliate links. It’s really fun talking in front of a video camera. Talking through something complex and making it simple. 24:52 – Panelist: Creating videos vs. speaking at a conference. 25:02 – Panelist: My bucket list is to do my conferences. I want to start putting out proposals. Easiest thing for me is to make videos. I used to do 20 takes before I was happy, but now I do one take and that’s it. 256:00 – Sounds like lower effort. You don’t have to ask anyone for permission to do a YouTube video. 26:21 – Panelist: Even if you are a beginner, then you can probably help others, too. At first, you feel like you are talking to yourself. If anything else, you are learning and you are getting experience. The ruby ducky programming. Talking to something that cannot respond to you. 27:11 – Like when I write a... 27:29 – Check out duck punching, and Paul Irish. 28:00 – Digital Ocean 28:42 – The creativity of doing YouTube videos. Is that rewarding to be creative or the organization? What part do you like in the creation process? 29:23 – I think a blog you have text you can be funny you can make the text interesting. With videos it’s a whole new world of teaching. YouTubers teaching certain concepts.  There are other people that have awesome animations. If I wanted to talk about a topic and do something simple or talk outside – there are a ton of different ways 31:10 – Panelist: Some times I just want to go off and be creative; hats-off to you. 31:28 – Panelist: I have tried to do a course with time stamps and certain 32:00 – D: Do you have a process of how you want to create your videos – what is your process? 32:22 – Panelist: I have a list of topics that I want to talk about. Then when I record it then I have a cheat sheet and I just go. Other people do other things, though. Like sketches and story boarding. 33:16 – D: Fun, fun, function. He has poster boards that he holds up and stuff. 33:36 – Panelist: People who listen to this podcast might be interested in podcasting? 33:54 – Panelist: Anyone who runs a podcast, Chuck? 34:16 – Chuck: When I started podcasting – I initially had to edit and publish – but now I pay someone to do it. It is a lot more work than it is. All you have to do is record and have a decent microphone, and put it out there. 35:18 – Panelist: It’s a labor of love. You almost lost your house because at first it wasn’t profitable. 35:45 – Chuck: Yeah for the most part we have it figured it out. Even then, we have 12 shows on the network on DevChat TV. 3 more I want to start and I want to put those on YouTube. Some people want to be on a new show with me. We will see. 36:37 – Chuck: I have a lot of people who asked about Python. We all come together and talk about what we are doing and seeing. It’s the water cooler discussion that people can hear for themselves. The conversation that you wish you could have to talk to experts. 38:03 – Podcasts provide that if you cannot get that at a conference? 38:16 – Conference talks are a little bit more prepared. We can go deeper in a podcast interview, because we can bring them back. You can get as involved as you want. It’s also 38:53 – Chuck: Podcasting is good if there is good content and it’s regular. 39:09 – Panelist: What is GOOD content? 39:20 – Chuck: There are different things people want. Generally they want something like: Staying Current Staying on the Edge When you go into the content it’s the host(s). I identify the way this host says THIS a certain way or that person says something THAT Way. That is all community connection. We do give people an introduction to topics that they might not hear anywhere else. With a Podcast if something new comes up we can interview someone THIS week and publish next week. Always staying current. 41:36 – Chuck: A lot of things go into it and community connection and staying current. 41:52 – Panelist: How to get started in EACH of the things we talked about. How do we try to get paid for some of these things? So we can provide value to communities. Talking about money sometimes is taboo. 43:36 – Panelist: Those are full topics all in by themselves. 43:55 – Chuck: Sustainability – let’s talk about that. I think we can enter into that 44:15 – Panelist: How do you decide what’s for free and what you are charging? How do you decide? 44:55 – Joe: I think one thing to start off is the best way to operate – do it because you feel like it needs to be done. The money follows. The minute you start solving people’s problems, money will follow. It’s good to think about the money, but don’t be obsessed. React conference. The react team didn’t want to do the conference, but it’s got to happen. The money happened afterwards. The money follows. Look for opportunities. Think ahead and be the responsible one. 47:28 – Panelist: If you want to setup a Meetup then go to... 47:45 – Panelist: I bet if you went to a Meet up and said you want to help – they would love that. 47:59 – Panelist: Yes, do something that is valuable. But events you will have a budget. Is it important to have money afterwards or try to break even? 48:38 – Joe: I think having money after the conference is just fine. The #1 thing is that if you are passionate about the project then you will make decisions to get that project out there. I can’t spend 500+ hours on something that it won’t help me pay my mortgage. 51:29 – Panelist: It’s not greedy to want money. 51:46 – Panelist: It’s a very thankless job. Many people don’t know how much effort goes into a conference. It’s a pain. People like Joe will put in 90 hours a week to pull off a conference. It’s a very, very difficult job. 53:42 – Panelist: Question to Divya. 54:00 – Divya: I have only been speaking for about a year now. For me, I feel this need to speak at different events to get my name out there. You wan the visibility, access to community and other benefits. These things trump the speaker’s fee. As I get more experience then I will look for a speaker’s fee. This fee is a baseline to make sure that you are given value for your time and effort. Most conferences do pay for your hotel and transportation. 56:58 – Panelist: How much is worth it to me to go and speak? Even if at the lower level; but someone who is a luminary in the field (John Papa). But for me it’s worth it. I am willing to spend my own dime. 58:14 – Panelist: John? 58:37 – John: You learn the most when you listen. I am impressed on your perspectives. Yes, early on you’ve got to get your brand out there. It’s an honor to speak then I’m honored. Do I have time? Will my family be okay if I am gone 3-4 days? Is this something that will have an impact in some way? Will I make connections? Will I be able to help the community? There is nothing wrong with saying I need to be paid X for that speech. It’s all of the blood, sweat, and tears that go into it. 1:01:30 – Panelist chimes in. I run conferences we cannot even cover their travel costs. Other conferences we can cover their travel costs; and everything in-between. There is nothing wrong with that. 1:02:11 – You have to be financially sound. Many of us do workshops, too. 1:02:59 – How do you get paid for podcasting? 1:03:11 – Chuck: I do get crap for having ads in the podcast. Nobody knows how much editing goes into one episode. It takes money for hosting, and finding guests, and it costs through Zoom. The amount of time it takes to produce these 12 shows is time-consuming. If you want to get something sponsored. Go approach companies and see. Once you get larger 5-10,000 listeners then that’s when you can pay your car payment. It’s a labor of love at first. The moral is that you WANT to do what you are doing. 1:06:11 – Advertisement. Links: The First Vue.js Sprint – Summary Conferences You Shouldn’t Miss The Expanse Handling Authentication in Vue Using Vuex Sponsors: Kendo UI Digital Ocean Code Badge Cache Fly Picks: Chris Vue Mastery Expanse TV Show Divya Disenchantment Handling Authentication in Vue Using VueX Joe Keystone Habits Charles The Traveler’s Gift The Shack Money! John Framework Summit Angular Mix

Panel: Divya Sasidharan Charles Max Wood Joe Eames Chris Fritz Erik Hanchett John Papa Special Guest: No Guest(s) In this episode, the panel talks amongst themselves on the topic: how does one contribute to opensource work? They discuss their various ways that they contribute, such as speaking at conferences, recording videos for YouTube, podcasting, among others. Check-out today’s episode to get some insight and inspiration of how YOU can contribute to YOUR community!  Show Topics: 1:31 – Erik: Contributing to opensource – and being a good resource for the community. Contributing and still making a living. If people want to make this more sustainable and doing work for the community. 2:26 – Chuck: What do you been by “contributing” – because people could think that “code contributions” would be it. 2:50 – Erik: Answering people’s questions in a chat, code contributions, or doing a podcast or doing a blog posts. I think there are a lot of ways to contribute. Really anything to make their lives and work easier. 3:33 – Panelist: Can we go around and ask the panel individually what THEY do? It could be as simple as mentoring someone at your work. I’m curious to see what the panelist members have done. Sometimes you can get paid for those contributions. 4:40 – Panelist: I am super scared to contribute source code. I really love organizing things: Meetups, conferences, etc. That’s my favorite sort of work. It is also terrifying, though, too. Educational content and organizing conferences are my favorite ways to contribute. 6:10 – Panelist: Why is that attractive for you? 6:22 – Panelist: That’s a good question. I’ve already started planning for the 2022 conference. It’s very physical – there are people that are present. Very direct interaction. My second favorite is sometimes I will teach at local boot camp, and the topic is about interviewing. There is interaction there, too. 8:32 – Panelist: Why do you think organizing conferences is useful? 8:46 – Panelist: Top way is that I will hear stories after the fact. “Oh I came to the conference, met this person, and now I have a new job that pays 30% more...thank you!” Stories like that are rewarding. It’s a ripple effect. A conference the main thing you are putting out there are videos (main product) going to YouTube. The people that are there, at the conference, are interacting people and they are making friends and making contacts. It inspires them to do better. John Papa just goes out there to talk into the hallway. You can talk to Chris Fritz in the hall. Make yourself available. You are the celebrities and people want to meet you. 12:20 – Panel talks about how desperate they are to talk to Chris. 12:36 – Panelist: Going to conferences and meeting other people. 13:08 – Panelist: Taking part of conferences in other ways. That’s something that you do Divya Sasidharan? 13:33 – Divya: It depends on your personality. You get to speak as a speaker, because you get visibility fast. I don’t think you don’t have to speak if you don’t want to speak. Anything within your community that is beneficial. Or the one-to-one interactions are great. Having a conversation with another person that cannot respond. It’s nice to give a speech because it’s a one-way conversation. I like the preparation part of it. The delivery is the nerves, afterwards is a high because it’s over with. I really like writing demos. For the demos I put in a lot of time into it. It gives me the space and time constraint to work on those demos. 16:10 – Do you like the preparation or the delivery? 16:20 – Preparation part that I do not like as much because it is nerve-wrecking, and then the anticipation to go up there on stage. 16:55 – Panelist: I am nervous until when it starts. Once I start talking – well that’s it! Can’t go back now. 17:26 – John: I have given a few talks at a conference. 17:39 – Panelist: Doing good and contributing. I knew John Papa when he was in Microsoft in 2000/2001. I read about it. Everyone knew about him. It would be so GREAT to meet John Papa, and now we are friends! We get to talk about personal stuff and I learn from him. 18:42 – Chris: I have had moments like that, too. Act like they are a normal person. 19:01 – Chuck: After I walk off the stage people want to talk to me afterwards. 19:24 – John: For my personal style, I learn about talking at conferences. I spend a lot of times building a demo. I don’t spend a lot of times with decks. I work on the code, the talk separately. I whip that up quickly, so I don’t This is the story I am going to tell – that’s what I tell myself before I do a talk at a conference. Afterwards, people come up to you years later – and they give you these awesome feedback comments. It’s a huge reward and very fulfilling. There was someone in this world you were able to impact. That’s why I like teaching. I watch the sessions on YouTube. I want to have deep conversations with people. You are missing out if you aren’t talking to people at the conference. 23:26 – Panelist: Yeah, I agree. I do a lot of YouTube videos. I write a blog for a few years on Node and such. Then I got into videos, and helping new developers. Videos on Vue.js. Like you, Joe, I try to combine the two. If I can help myself, and OTHERS, that is great. I promote my own courses, my own affiliate links. It’s really fun talking in front of a video camera. Talking through something complex and making it simple. 24:52 – Panelist: Creating videos vs. speaking at a conference. 25:02 – Panelist: My bucket list is to do my conferences. I want to start putting out proposals. Easiest thing for me is to make videos. I used to do 20 takes before I was happy, but now I do one take and that’s it. 256:00 – Sounds like lower effort. You don’t have to ask anyone for permission to do a YouTube video. 26:21 – Panelist: Even if you are a beginner, then you can probably help others, too. At first, you feel like you are talking to yourself. If anything else, you are learning and you are getting experience. The ruby ducky programming. Talking to something that cannot respond to you. 27:11 – Like when I write a... 27:29 – Check out duck punching, and Paul Irish. 28:00 – Digital Ocean 28:42 – The creativity of doing YouTube videos. Is that rewarding to be creative or the organization? What part do you like in the creation process? 29:23 – I think a blog you have text you can be funny you can make the text interesting. With videos it’s a whole new world of teaching. YouTubers teaching certain concepts.  There are other people that have awesome animations. If I wanted to talk about a topic and do something simple or talk outside – there are a ton of different ways 31:10 – Panelist: Some times I just want to go off and be creative; hats-off to you. 31:28 – Panelist: I have tried to do a course with time stamps and certain 32:00 – D: Do you have a process of how you want to create your videos – what is your process? 32:22 – Panelist: I have a list of topics that I want to talk about. Then when I record it then I have a cheat sheet and I just go. Other people do other things, though. Like sketches and story boarding. 33:16 – D: Fun, fun, function. He has poster boards that he holds up and stuff. 33:36 – Panelist: People who listen to this podcast might be interested in podcasting? 33:54 – Panelist: Anyone who runs a podcast, Chuck? 34:16 – Chuck: When I started podcasting – I initially had to edit and publish – but now I pay someone to do it. It is a lot more work than it is. All you have to do is record and have a decent microphone, and put it out there. 35:18 – Panelist: It’s a labor of love. You almost lost your house because at first it wasn’t profitable. 35:45 – Chuck: Yeah for the most part we have it figured it out. Even then, we have 12 shows on the network on DevChat TV. 3 more I want to start and I want to put those on YouTube. Some people want to be on a new show with me. We will see. 36:37 – Chuck: I have a lot of people who asked about Python. We all come together and talk about what we are doing and seeing. It’s the water cooler discussion that people can hear for themselves. The conversation that you wish you could have to talk to experts. 38:03 – Podcasts provide that if you cannot get that at a conference? 38:16 – Conference talks are a little bit more prepared. We can go deeper in a podcast interview, because we can bring them back. You can get as involved as you want. It’s also 38:53 – Chuck: Podcasting is good if there is good content and it’s regular. 39:09 – Panelist: What is GOOD content? 39:20 – Chuck: There are different things people want. Generally they want something like: Staying Current Staying on the Edge When you go into the content it’s the host(s). I identify the way this host says THIS a certain way or that person says something THAT Way. That is all community connection. We do give people an introduction to topics that they might not hear anywhere else. With a Podcast if something new comes up we can interview someone THIS week and publish next week. Always staying current. 41:36 – Chuck: A lot of things go into it and community connection and staying current. 41:52 – Panelist: How to get started in EACH of the things we talked about. How do we try to get paid for some of these things? So we can provide value to communities. Talking about money sometimes is taboo. 43:36 – Panelist: Those are full topics all in by themselves. 43:55 – Chuck: Sustainability – let’s talk about that. I think we can enter into that 44:15 – Panelist: How do you decide what’s for free and what you are charging? How do you decide? 44:55 – Joe: I think one thing to start off is the best way to operate – do it because you feel like it needs to be done. The money follows. The minute you start solving people’s problems, money will follow. It’s good to think about the money, but don’t be obsessed. React conference. The react team didn’t want to do the conference, but it’s got to happen. The money happened afterwards. The money follows. Look for opportunities. Think ahead and be the responsible one. 47:28 – Panelist: If you want to setup a Meetup then go to... 47:45 – Panelist: I bet if you went to a Meet up and said you want to help – they would love that. 47:59 – Panelist: Yes, do something that is valuable. But events you will have a budget. Is it important to have money afterwards or try to break even? 48:38 – Joe: I think having money after the conference is just fine. The #1 thing is that if you are passionate about the project then you will make decisions to get that project out there. I can’t spend 500+ hours on something that it won’t help me pay my mortgage. 51:29 – Panelist: It’s not greedy to want money. 51:46 – Panelist: It’s a very thankless job. Many people don’t know how much effort goes into a conference. It’s a pain. People like Joe will put in 90 hours a week to pull off a conference. It’s a very, very difficult job. 53:42 – Panelist: Question to Divya. 54:00 – Divya: I have only been speaking for about a year now. For me, I feel this need to speak at different events to get my name out there. You wan the visibility, access to community and other benefits. These things trump the speaker’s fee. As I get more experience then I will look for a speaker’s fee. This fee is a baseline to make sure that you are given value for your time and effort. Most conferences do pay for your hotel and transportation. 56:58 – Panelist: How much is worth it to me to go and speak? Even if at the lower level; but someone who is a luminary in the field (John Papa). But for me it’s worth it. I am willing to spend my own dime. 58:14 – Panelist: John? 58:37 – John: You learn the most when you listen. I am impressed on your perspectives. Yes, early on you’ve got to get your brand out there. It’s an honor to speak then I’m honored. Do I have time? Will my family be okay if I am gone 3-4 days? Is this something that will have an impact in some way? Will I make connections? Will I be able to help the community? There is nothing wrong with saying I need to be paid X for that speech. It’s all of the blood, sweat, and tears that go into it. 1:01:30 – Panelist chimes in. I run conferences we cannot even cover their travel costs. Other conferences we can cover their travel costs; and everything in-between. There is nothing wrong with that. 1:02:11 – You have to be financially sound. Many of us do workshops, too. 1:02:59 – How do you get paid for podcasting? 1:03:11 – Chuck: I do get crap for having ads in the podcast. Nobody knows how much editing goes into one episode. It takes money for hosting, and finding guests, and it costs through Zoom. The amount of time it takes to produce these 12 shows is time-consuming. If you want to get something sponsored. Go approach companies and see. Once you get larger 5-10,000 listeners then that’s when you can pay your car payment. It’s a labor of love at first. The moral is that you WANT to do what you are doing. 1:06:11 – Advertisement. Links: The First Vue.js Sprint – Summary Conferences You Shouldn’t Miss The Expanse Handling Authentication in Vue Using Vuex Sponsors: Kendo UI Digital Ocean Code Badge Cache Fly Picks: Chris Vue Mastery Expanse TV Show Divya Disenchantment Handling Authentication in Vue Using VueX Joe Keystone Habits Charles The Traveler’s Gift The Shack Money! John Framework Summit Angular Mix

Panel: Charles Max Wood John Papa Alyssa Nicholl Joe Eames Shai Reznik Ward Bell In this episode, the Adventures in Angular panel talks about what Ward is doing currently, which is working on a large, complex, and involved application that they are using Angular for. They are using this episode to discuss a real-world Angular project or real “Ward” Angular project. They talk a little about what the project is, challenges he has had to overcome, and the differences that come with writing apps in reactivity. They also touch on the idea that “the mystery is part of the pattern,” reactive forms, and more! In particular, we dive pretty deep on: Get a Coder Job course Angular Ward’s project intro Ward runs a business that builds applications for people Taking lead on a new project ngRx data Redux and RxJS His company makes Breeze Needed an enrollment app Didn’t want to use Breeze, they wanted him to use reactive programming Needed the application to be as simple as possible Why he decided to give reactivity programming a chance Challenges he’s faced Writing enterprise apps in reactivity Immutability Forms over data apps Reactive forms The mystery is part of the pattern Effects Debugging tools Reactive pattern Discovering new ways to code Reactive programming brings in a different set of problems, but it’s not that it’s right or wrong React State Museum And much, much more! Links: Get a Coder Job course Angular ngRx data Redux RxJS Breeze React State Museum Sponsors Angular Boot Camp Digital Ocean Get a Coder Job course Picks: Charles The Traveler's Gift by Andy Andrews The Shack by Wm. Paul Young John Framework Summit Angular Mix Joe Dungeons and Dragons Lutron Caseta Wireless Smart Lighting Dimmer Switch with Amazon Echo Shai Akita Netanel Basal’s Medium Inside Ivy: Exploring the New Angular Compiler by Uri Shaked Ward Virgin Galactic’s Rocket Man

Panel: Charles Max Wood John Papa Alyssa Nicholl Joe Eames Shai Reznik Ward Bell In this episode, the Adventures in Angular panel talks about what Ward is doing currently, which is working on a large, complex, and involved application that they are using Angular for. They are using this episode to discuss a real-world Angular project or real “Ward” Angular project. They talk a little about what the project is, challenges he has had to overcome, and the differences that come with writing apps in reactivity. They also touch on the idea that “the mystery is part of the pattern,” reactive forms, and more! In particular, we dive pretty deep on: Get a Coder Job course Angular Ward’s project intro Ward runs a business that builds applications for people Taking lead on a new project ngRx data Redux and RxJS His company makes Breeze Needed an enrollment app Didn’t want to use Breeze, they wanted him to use reactive programming Needed the application to be as simple as possible Why he decided to give reactivity programming a chance Challenges he’s faced Writing enterprise apps in reactivity Immutability Forms over data apps Reactive forms The mystery is part of the pattern Effects Debugging tools Reactive pattern Discovering new ways to code Reactive programming brings in a different set of problems, but it’s not that it’s right or wrong React State Museum And much, much more! Links: Get a Coder Job course Angular ngRx data Redux RxJS Breeze React State Museum Sponsors Angular Boot Camp Digital Ocean Get a Coder Job course Picks: Charles The Traveler's Gift by Andy Andrews The Shack by Wm. Paul Young John Framework Summit Angular Mix Joe Dungeons and Dragons Lutron Caseta Wireless Smart Lighting Dimmer Switch with Amazon Echo Shai Akita Netanel Basal’s Medium Inside Ivy: Exploring the New Angular Compiler by Uri Shaked Ward Virgin Galactic’s Rocket Man

Panel: Charles Max Wood John Papa Alyssa Nicholl Joe Eames Shai Reznik Ward Bell In this episode, the Adventures in Angular panel talks about what Ward is doing currently, which is working on a large, complex, and involved application that they are using Angular for. They are using this episode to discuss a real-world Angular project or real “Ward” Angular project. They talk a little about what the project is, challenges he has had to overcome, and the differences that come with writing apps in reactivity. They also touch on the idea that “the mystery is part of the pattern,” reactive forms, and more! In particular, we dive pretty deep on: Get a Coder Job course Angular Ward’s project intro Ward runs a business that builds applications for people Taking lead on a new project ngRx data Redux and RxJS His company makes Breeze Needed an enrollment app Didn’t want to use Breeze, they wanted him to use reactive programming Needed the application to be as simple as possible Why he decided to give reactivity programming a chance Challenges he’s faced Writing enterprise apps in reactivity Immutability Forms over data apps Reactive forms The mystery is part of the pattern Effects Debugging tools Reactive pattern Discovering new ways to code Reactive programming brings in a different set of problems, but it’s not that it’s right or wrong React State Museum And much, much more! Links: Get a Coder Job course Angular ngRx data Redux RxJS Breeze React State Museum Sponsors Angular Boot Camp Digital Ocean Get a Coder Job course Picks: Charles The Traveler's Gift by Andy Andrews The Shack by Wm. Paul Young John Framework Summit Angular Mix Joe Dungeons and Dragons Lutron Caseta Wireless Smart Lighting Dimmer Switch with Amazon Echo Shai Akita Netanel Basal’s Medium Inside Ivy: Exploring the New Angular Compiler by Uri Shaked Ward Virgin Galactic’s Rocket Man

Panel: Charles Max Wood Guest: Sam Julien This week on My Angular Story, Charles speaks with Sam Julien. Sam’s course Upgrading Angular JS is a comprehensive video course to help people tackle the transition from Angular JS to Angular which was born out of his own pain and suffering from that process. He first got into programming when he was 8 or 9 and his robotics engineer uncle got him into old Mac computers and he would then hack around on them. They talk about what brought him back to programming, what made him want to specialize in Angular, and more! In particular, We dive pretty deep on: Adventures in Angular Episode 186 Upgrading Angular JS course Angular JS to Angular How did you first get into programming? Uncle gave him his old Mac computers Reverse engineering of computers Basic and ResEdit Taught himself HTML at 12 years old HTML was the thing that allowed him to actually create things CSS and JavaScript in college What was it like when you were first developing things? Didn’t understand JavaScript in the beginning Degree in Religion What brought you back to programming? Worked for a brokerage originally Started mostly with C# and jQuery and then moved on to Angular What was it about Angular made you want to specialize in it? Fascinated by Angular and took the Code School course on it Loved how straightforward Angular was Making the most of the opportunities you’re given The welcoming aspect of the Angular community Are there contributions to the community that you are really proud of? Writing for Scotch.io and Telerik Runs Angular Portland groups Talking at Angular Denver and AngularMix What made you want to make your course? And much, much more! Links: Adventures in Angular Episode 186 Upgrading Angular JS Angular JS Angular JavaScript jQuery Code School Sam’s Scotch.io page Sam’s Telerik blog Angular Portland groups Angular Denver AngularMix @samjulien samjulien.com Sam’s GitHub Sponsors: FreshBooks Loot Crate Picks: Charles Anti-pick: HOAs Home Depot tool rental Utah Backyard Homesteading Facebook group Sam Learn Docker Course NgColombia Artemis by Andy Weir on Audible

Panel: Charles Max Wood Guest: Sam Julien This week on My Angular Story, Charles speaks with Sam Julien. Sam’s course Upgrading Angular JS is a comprehensive video course to help people tackle the transition from Angular JS to Angular which was born out of his own pain and suffering from that process. He first got into programming when he was 8 or 9 and his robotics engineer uncle got him into old Mac computers and he would then hack around on them. They talk about what brought him back to programming, what made him want to specialize in Angular, and more! In particular, We dive pretty deep on: Adventures in Angular Episode 186 Upgrading Angular JS course Angular JS to Angular How did you first get into programming? Uncle gave him his old Mac computers Reverse engineering of computers Basic and ResEdit Taught himself HTML at 12 years old HTML was the thing that allowed him to actually create things CSS and JavaScript in college What was it like when you were first developing things? Didn’t understand JavaScript in the beginning Degree in Religion What brought you back to programming? Worked for a brokerage originally Started mostly with C# and jQuery and then moved on to Angular What was it about Angular made you want to specialize in it? Fascinated by Angular and took the Code School course on it Loved how straightforward Angular was Making the most of the opportunities you’re given The welcoming aspect of the Angular community Are there contributions to the community that you are really proud of? Writing for Scotch.io and Telerik Runs Angular Portland groups Talking at Angular Denver and AngularMix What made you want to make your course? And much, much more! Links: Adventures in Angular Episode 186 Upgrading Angular JS Angular JS Angular JavaScript jQuery Code School Sam’s Scotch.io page Sam’s Telerik blog Angular Portland groups Angular Denver AngularMix @samjulien samjulien.com Sam’s GitHub Sponsors: FreshBooks Loot Crate Picks: Charles Anti-pick: HOAs Home Depot tool rental Utah Backyard Homesteading Facebook group Sam Learn Docker Course NgColombia Artemis by Andy Weir on Audible

Panel: Charles Max Wood Guest: Sam Julien This week on My Angular Story, Charles speaks with Sam Julien. Sam’s course Upgrading Angular JS is a comprehensive video course to help people tackle the transition from Angular JS to Angular which was born out of his own pain and suffering from that process. He first got into programming when he was 8 or 9 and his robotics engineer uncle got him into old Mac computers and he would then hack around on them. They talk about what brought him back to programming, what made him want to specialize in Angular, and more! In particular, We dive pretty deep on: Adventures in Angular Episode 186 Upgrading Angular JS course Angular JS to Angular How did you first get into programming? Uncle gave him his old Mac computers Reverse engineering of computers Basic and ResEdit Taught himself HTML at 12 years old HTML was the thing that allowed him to actually create things CSS and JavaScript in college What was it like when you were first developing things? Didn’t understand JavaScript in the beginning Degree in Religion What brought you back to programming? Worked for a brokerage originally Started mostly with C# and jQuery and then moved on to Angular What was it about Angular made you want to specialize in it? Fascinated by Angular and took the Code School course on it Loved how straightforward Angular was Making the most of the opportunities you’re given The welcoming aspect of the Angular community Are there contributions to the community that you are really proud of? Writing for Scotch.io and Telerik Runs Angular Portland groups Talking at Angular Denver and AngularMix What made you want to make your course? And much, much more! Links: Adventures in Angular Episode 186 Upgrading Angular JS Angular JS Angular JavaScript jQuery Code School Sam’s Scotch.io page Sam’s Telerik blog Angular Portland groups Angular Denver AngularMix @samjulien samjulien.com Sam’s GitHub Sponsors: FreshBooks Loot Crate Picks: Charles Anti-pick: HOAs Home Depot tool rental Utah Backyard Homesteading Facebook group Sam Learn Docker Course NgColombia Artemis by Andy Weir on Audible

Panel: Charles Max Wood Guest: Doguhan Uluca This week on My Angular Story, Charles speaks with Doguhan Uluca. Doguhan is an IT consultant based out of Washington DC and works for Excella Consulting, where he is a software development expert and Agile and Cloud engineer. He has also recently written a book and was on Episode 181 of Adventures in Angular. He is originally from Turkey and first got into programming when he was in boarding school and he was interested in the computers they had there. They talk about how he got into Angular, what made him fall in love with Angular, and much more! In particular, We dive pretty deep on: Doguhan intro Episode of 181 AiA Angular 6 for Enterprise-Ready Web Applications by Doguhan How did you first get into programming? From Turkey Figuring out how coding works Programming games Click Basic and C++ Graduated from Virginia Tech with a Computer Science degree The importance of reading the documentation Embedded systems How did you get into Angular? Performance-conscious developer Networking and performance testing Microsoft Silverlight Knockout ng-conf in 2014 Excella Retro Why he fell in love with Angular Loves Angular’s minimalist approach Component router And much, much more! Links: Excella Consulting Episode of 181 AiA Angular 6 for Enterprise-Ready Web Applications by Doguhan Angular Microsoft Silverlight Knockout Excella Retro @Duluca Doguhan’s GitHub TheJavaScriptPromise.com Doguhan’s GitHub Picks: Charles BrieBug Rocky Mountain Angular Meetup ngConf DevChat.tv YouTube Doguhan Angular 6 for Enterprise-Ready Web Applications by Doguhan TheJavaScriptPromise.com Westworld Deliver Agile Conference Agile XP Agile Portugal AngularMix

Panel: Charles Max Wood Guest: Doguhan Uluca This week on My Angular Story, Charles speaks with Doguhan Uluca. Doguhan is an IT consultant based out of Washington DC and works for Excella Consulting, where he is a software development expert and Agile and Cloud engineer. He has also recently written a book and was on Episode 181 of Adventures in Angular. He is originally from Turkey and first got into programming when he was in boarding school and he was interested in the computers they had there. They talk about how he got into Angular, what made him fall in love with Angular, and much more! In particular, We dive pretty deep on: Doguhan intro Episode of 181 AiA Angular 6 for Enterprise-Ready Web Applications by Doguhan How did you first get into programming? From Turkey Figuring out how coding works Programming games Click Basic and C++ Graduated from Virginia Tech with a Computer Science degree The importance of reading the documentation Embedded systems How did you get into Angular? Performance-conscious developer Networking and performance testing Microsoft Silverlight Knockout ng-conf in 2014 Excella Retro Why he fell in love with Angular Loves Angular’s minimalist approach Component router And much, much more! Links: Excella Consulting Episode of 181 AiA Angular 6 for Enterprise-Ready Web Applications by Doguhan Angular Microsoft Silverlight Knockout Excella Retro @Duluca Doguhan’s GitHub TheJavaScriptPromise.com Doguhan’s GitHub Picks: Charles BrieBug Rocky Mountain Angular Meetup ngConf DevChat.tv YouTube Doguhan Angular 6 for Enterprise-Ready Web Applications by Doguhan TheJavaScriptPromise.com Westworld Deliver Agile Conference Agile XP Agile Portugal AngularMix

Panel: Charles Max Wood Guest: Doguhan Uluca This week on My Angular Story, Charles speaks with Doguhan Uluca. Doguhan is an IT consultant based out of Washington DC and works for Excella Consulting, where he is a software development expert and Agile and Cloud engineer. He has also recently written a book and was on Episode 181 of Adventures in Angular. He is originally from Turkey and first got into programming when he was in boarding school and he was interested in the computers they had there. They talk about how he got into Angular, what made him fall in love with Angular, and much more! In particular, We dive pretty deep on: Doguhan intro Episode of 181 AiA Angular 6 for Enterprise-Ready Web Applications by Doguhan How did you first get into programming? From Turkey Figuring out how coding works Programming games Click Basic and C++ Graduated from Virginia Tech with a Computer Science degree The importance of reading the documentation Embedded systems How did you get into Angular? Performance-conscious developer Networking and performance testing Microsoft Silverlight Knockout ng-conf in 2014 Excella Retro Why he fell in love with Angular Loves Angular’s minimalist approach Component router And much, much more! Links: Excella Consulting Episode of 181 AiA Angular 6 for Enterprise-Ready Web Applications by Doguhan Angular Microsoft Silverlight Knockout Excella Retro @Duluca Doguhan’s GitHub TheJavaScriptPromise.com Doguhan’s GitHub Picks: Charles BrieBug Rocky Mountain Angular Meetup ngConf DevChat.tv YouTube Doguhan Angular 6 for Enterprise-Ready Web Applications by Doguhan TheJavaScriptPromise.com Westworld Deliver Agile Conference Agile XP Agile Portugal AngularMix

Panel: Charles Max Wood Guest: Kim Maida This week on My Angular Story, Charles speaks with Kim Maida. Kim is a technical content lead at Auth0, and her job is to oversee the team that writes content for their blog. She first got into programming when she learned HTML at a summer camp when she was 12. She fell in love with it and discovered that she wanted to create websites. They talk about her journey into the programming world, her introduction to Angular, and what she is working on now. In particular, We dive pretty deep on: Kim intro Her personal specialty is Angular How did you first get into programming? Learned HTML at a summer camp when she was 12 years old Creating websites and forums Digital art Freelance with WordPress Never thought about programming as a career originally Studied science in college Web designer and front-end developer for the college Got a job as a front-end developer before graduating jQuery and JavaScript There are many different ways to get into the field How did you wind up doing Angular? Angular JS How did you get introduced to Auth0? Authentication What are you working on now? Recently gotten back into management ng conf, AngularUP, and AngularMix What are you most proud of contributing? Consulting And much, much more! Links: Auth0 Angular WordPress jQuery JavaScript Angular JS ng conf AngularUP AngularMix ng Girls Kim’s GitHub @KimMaida KMaida.io Auth0.com/blog Picks: Charles Ready Player One Movie Ready Player One by Ernest Cline Ability to Suggest Topics at DevChat.tv Kim Alyssa Nicoll Fundraiser Altered Carbon

Panel: Charles Max Wood Guest: Kim Maida This week on My Angular Story, Charles speaks with Kim Maida. Kim is a technical content lead at Auth0, and her job is to oversee the team that writes content for their blog. She first got into programming when she learned HTML at a summer camp when she was 12. She fell in love with it and discovered that she wanted to create websites. They talk about her journey into the programming world, her introduction to Angular, and what she is working on now. In particular, We dive pretty deep on: Kim intro Her personal specialty is Angular How did you first get into programming? Learned HTML at a summer camp when she was 12 years old Creating websites and forums Digital art Freelance with WordPress Never thought about programming as a career originally Studied science in college Web designer and front-end developer for the college Got a job as a front-end developer before graduating jQuery and JavaScript There are many different ways to get into the field How did you wind up doing Angular? Angular JS How did you get introduced to Auth0? Authentication What are you working on now? Recently gotten back into management ng conf, AngularUP, and AngularMix What are you most proud of contributing? Consulting And much, much more! Links: Auth0 Angular WordPress jQuery JavaScript Angular JS ng conf AngularUP AngularMix ng Girls Kim’s GitHub @KimMaida KMaida.io Auth0.com/blog Picks: Charles Ready Player One Movie Ready Player One by Ernest Cline Ability to Suggest Topics at DevChat.tv Kim Alyssa Nicoll Fundraiser Altered Carbon

Panel: Charles Max Wood Guest: Kim Maida This week on My Angular Story, Charles speaks with Kim Maida. Kim is a technical content lead at Auth0, and her job is to oversee the team that writes content for their blog. She first got into programming when she learned HTML at a summer camp when she was 12. She fell in love with it and discovered that she wanted to create websites. They talk about her journey into the programming world, her introduction to Angular, and what she is working on now. In particular, We dive pretty deep on: Kim intro Her personal specialty is Angular How did you first get into programming? Learned HTML at a summer camp when she was 12 years old Creating websites and forums Digital art Freelance with WordPress Never thought about programming as a career originally Studied science in college Web designer and front-end developer for the college Got a job as a front-end developer before graduating jQuery and JavaScript There are many different ways to get into the field How did you wind up doing Angular? Angular JS How did you get introduced to Auth0? Authentication What are you working on now? Recently gotten back into management ng conf, AngularUP, and AngularMix What are you most proud of contributing? Consulting And much, much more! Links: Auth0 Angular WordPress jQuery JavaScript Angular JS ng conf AngularUP AngularMix ng Girls Kim’s GitHub @KimMaida KMaida.io Auth0.com/blog Picks: Charles Ready Player One Movie Ready Player One by Ernest Cline Ability to Suggest Topics at DevChat.tv Kim Alyssa Nicoll Fundraiser Altered Carbon

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AiA 146: 10 Ways to Lose a Developer with Bonnie Brennan and Keith Stewart On today's episode of Adventures in Angular, we have panelists Ward Bell, Alyssa Nicoll, Joe Eames, and Charles Max Wood. We have special guests, Bonnie Brennan of ngHouston and Keith Stewart of CollabNet. The discussion ranges from the Most Common Reason for People to Leave to Mandatory Happy Hour that companies have! Stay tuned! [00:01:05] Introduction to Bonnie Brennan and Keith Stewart Bonnie is an Angular architect at Houston, Texas. She is the founder of ngHouston. She also runs Code Bridge Texas with her daughter. They do free programming workshops for girls. She’s going to be at a couple of conferences coming up. They’re going to AngularMix and FrontEnd Connect with Alyssa. Keith, on the other hand, works for a company called CollabNet as a UI Tech Lead. He is working mostly on UI’s for DevOps-related products. He is also a frequent panelist on the ngHouston Meet up broadcast that Bonnie runs and a curator on ngDoc.io with Alyssa and Joe. [00:03:20] – Most common reason for people to leave If Bonnie has to narrow down, she thinks it’s the tech stack. Some companies have a lot of legacy code that needs to be maintained but at the same time, when you are a developer who spends a lot of time on emerging technologies, you want to be working on this new stuff that you’re learning. While working on this course on how to find a better dev job, Charles surveyed people on Skype or the phone. They feel stuck and not moving ahead. [00:10:50] – In the culture, if you’re not a performer, then, you’re not trying hard enough? Joe thinks that we have this problem in this industry that if you are not going to be blogging and speaking at conferences, then, you just don’t belong. Ward also thinks that you don’t have to be a performer to contribute to a great development environment. But for Bonnie, being a performer is not exactly about getting up on stage. It really is about caring enough. Alyssa tells about the gradient of the type of person. There’s a person like, “Okay, this is just a job for me but I still take pride in my work.” But if you’re in the mindset of “Hey, I have kids or I have a wife outside of this. But I’m still giving it my all while I’m here.” Then, it’s perfectly reasonable. Keith also tells about the two different types of people. The generalists, the folks who are on the bleeding-edge, they don’t necessarily master one of those, and the other folks who get really good at one particular thing that they’re working on. Ward cites an instance where you’re in an enterprise and you have a lot of very important legacy systems that need a person who cares about the legacy stuff. You can’t have a company that has all people who have to be on the bleeding-edge all the time. [00:18:55] – Type of developers that companies want and how to keep them Ward mentions how professional growth is important. The opportunities for people to work on the leading technologies is not always something that every company can offer but they can sprinkle these opportunities here and there. It can be done but if it’s not, there are things that you can do with some of the legacy applications to make them more palatable to work on. Charles suggests to companies to show the developers that you care, you are listening. It’s on the roadmap and you’re going to get there. [00:22:55] – Is boss on your list of Ways to Lose a Developer? Bonnie can’t think of the time that she has left because of her boss. But the company culture is an important thing because however, the upper management feels about culture, that’s going to trickle down. One issue about Charles’ boss is that he is very controlling. Another issue is he was specifying the requirements for the application and he wasn’t very good at staying consistent with it. They wind up building one thing but gets angry with them because they hadn’t built what he wanted, even though it was exactly what he specified. Bonnie also had a situation similar to Charles where the project requirements kept changing while she was writing the code. If you feel like you’re going to work to be frustrated again, it doesn’t matter what technology you’re using, it doesn’t matter how you like the rest of your co-workers, eventually, you’re going to burn out. [00:27:00] – Not being paid enough When you’re not making a whole lot of money, Bonnie thinks it can be a big deal but it’s not the biggest issue. For Keith, if he would be weighing two companies, he’ll also choose the company with the good tech stack instead of the company which pays a little higher. But Ward thinks that it is a privilege to be in an industry where even in the low-end of the salary rank, you tend to be pretty comfortable. [00:29:55] – Effective ways to show your appreciation to a developer Bonnie refers to an instance when the boss gives credit for a developer in a meeting on how he did a great job on a feature. And on the flipside, the worst kind of boss is the boss that says, “Look what I did.” But Keith finds it a difficult question because it might be different for other people. Some people like to be called out in a meeting and say, “You did a good job.” But some folks would like that to be a little more behind the scenes. Or some folks might be looking for a bonus instead. So you might be able to read your people. For Alyssa, she likes the boss who regularly checks in even if it’s not a pat on the back because it just shows that they care about the process. Ward speaks of the boss who asks your opinion on an important decision, technical or otherwise. [00:37:40] – Recruitment Keith never likes the recruitment process of companies which bring a lot of people in and give them coding exercises on a whiteboard. So they built a small application that’s similar to the application that the folks will actually be doing. [00:41:05] – Remote vs. working in an office Alyssa loves being remote. She mentions she has ADHD so she was distracted in an office setting. It’s important for her to set up her environment to be more productive. Bonnie also has been working remote for 3 years now. It used to be difficult to communicate but now, we can just use video call. But Keith finds people more engaged in a meeting when it’s in person. An office space can add a lot of value to a team. Ward points out that you can also be distracted as well by working remote. In Google, they all work in the office. Even though they have open office plans, sitting right next to each other, they trust the people that they can do well in that environment. People put on headphones when they’re really focusing on something. [00:53:20] – Mandatory happy hour Companies which have a snack room, ping pong table, foosball can contribute to company culture and make it a much more attractive place for developers. But Alyssa gets scared a little bit when programmers go overboard and sometimes you’re not into it as much as they are. Picks Ward Bell Progressive Web Apps (PWA) Jake Archibald on PWA Joe Eames Shimmer Lake Keith Stewart Charles Angular Dev Summit Camelbak Eddy water bottle JAM XT Bluetooth speaker Bonnie Brennan Pluralsight course on Angular Reactive Forms by Deborah Kurata Todd Motto’s Ultimate Angular JS Twitter @bonnster75 Youtube ngHouston Angular Meetup Keith Stewart Adam Laycock’s blog post: Building maintainable Angular 2 applications Rogue One Twitter @TheKeithStewart

AiA 146: 10 Ways to Lose a Developer with Bonnie Brennan and Keith Stewart On today's episode of Adventures in Angular, we have panelists Ward Bell, Alyssa Nicoll, Joe Eames, and Charles Max Wood. We have special guests, Bonnie Brennan of ngHouston and Keith Stewart of CollabNet. The discussion ranges from the Most Common Reason for People to Leave to Mandatory Happy Hour that companies have! Stay tuned! [00:01:05] Introduction to Bonnie Brennan and Keith Stewart Bonnie is an Angular architect at Houston, Texas. She is the founder of ngHouston. She also runs Code Bridge Texas with her daughter. They do free programming workshops for girls. She’s going to be at a couple of conferences coming up. They’re going to AngularMix and FrontEnd Connect with Alyssa. Keith, on the other hand, works for a company called CollabNet as a UI Tech Lead. He is working mostly on UI’s for DevOps-related products. He is also a frequent panelist on the ngHouston Meet up broadcast that Bonnie runs and a curator on ngDoc.io with Alyssa and Joe. [00:03:20] – Most common reason for people to leave If Bonnie has to narrow down, she thinks it’s the tech stack. Some companies have a lot of legacy code that needs to be maintained but at the same time, when you are a developer who spends a lot of time on emerging technologies, you want to be working on this new stuff that you’re learning. While working on this course on how to find a better dev job, Charles surveyed people on Skype or the phone. They feel stuck and not moving ahead. [00:10:50] – In the culture, if you’re not a performer, then, you’re not trying hard enough? Joe thinks that we have this problem in this industry that if you are not going to be blogging and speaking at conferences, then, you just don’t belong. Ward also thinks that you don’t have to be a performer to contribute to a great development environment. But for Bonnie, being a performer is not exactly about getting up on stage. It really is about caring enough. Alyssa tells about the gradient of the type of person. There’s a person like, “Okay, this is just a job for me but I still take pride in my work.” But if you’re in the mindset of “Hey, I have kids or I have a wife outside of this. But I’m still giving it my all while I’m here.” Then, it’s perfectly reasonable. Keith also tells about the two different types of people. The generalists, the folks who are on the bleeding-edge, they don’t necessarily master one of those, and the other folks who get really good at one particular thing that they’re working on. Ward cites an instance where you’re in an enterprise and you have a lot of very important legacy systems that need a person who cares about the legacy stuff. You can’t have a company that has all people who have to be on the bleeding-edge all the time. [00:18:55] – Type of developers that companies want and how to keep them Ward mentions how professional growth is important. The opportunities for people to work on the leading technologies is not always something that every company can offer but they can sprinkle these opportunities here and there. It can be done but if it’s not, there are things that you can do with some of the legacy applications to make them more palatable to work on. Charles suggests to companies to show the developers that you care, you are listening. It’s on the roadmap and you’re going to get there. [00:22:55] – Is boss on your list of Ways to Lose a Developer? Bonnie can’t think of the time that she has left because of her boss. But the company culture is an important thing because however, the upper management feels about culture, that’s going to trickle down. One issue about Charles’ boss is that he is very controlling. Another issue is he was specifying the requirements for the application and he wasn’t very good at staying consistent with it. They wind up building one thing but gets angry with them because they hadn’t built what he wanted, even though it was exactly what he specified. Bonnie also had a situation similar to Charles where the project requirements kept changing while she was writing the code. If you feel like you’re going to work to be frustrated again, it doesn’t matter what technology you’re using, it doesn’t matter how you like the rest of your co-workers, eventually, you’re going to burn out. [00:27:00] – Not being paid enough When you’re not making a whole lot of money, Bonnie thinks it can be a big deal but it’s not the biggest issue. For Keith, if he would be weighing two companies, he’ll also choose the company with the good tech stack instead of the company which pays a little higher. But Ward thinks that it is a privilege to be in an industry where even in the low-end of the salary rank, you tend to be pretty comfortable. [00:29:55] – Effective ways to show your appreciation to a developer Bonnie refers to an instance when the boss gives credit for a developer in a meeting on how he did a great job on a feature. And on the flipside, the worst kind of boss is the boss that says, “Look what I did.” But Keith finds it a difficult question because it might be different for other people. Some people like to be called out in a meeting and say, “You did a good job.” But some folks would like that to be a little more behind the scenes. Or some folks might be looking for a bonus instead. So you might be able to read your people. For Alyssa, she likes the boss who regularly checks in even if it’s not a pat on the back because it just shows that they care about the process. Ward speaks of the boss who asks your opinion on an important decision, technical or otherwise. [00:37:40] – Recruitment Keith never likes the recruitment process of companies which bring a lot of people in and give them coding exercises on a whiteboard. So they built a small application that’s similar to the application that the folks will actually be doing. [00:41:05] – Remote vs. working in an office Alyssa loves being remote. She mentions she has ADHD so she was distracted in an office setting. It’s important for her to set up her environment to be more productive. Bonnie also has been working remote for 3 years now. It used to be difficult to communicate but now, we can just use video call. But Keith finds people more engaged in a meeting when it’s in person. An office space can add a lot of value to a team. Ward points out that you can also be distracted as well by working remote. In Google, they all work in the office. Even though they have open office plans, sitting right next to each other, they trust the people that they can do well in that environment. People put on headphones when they’re really focusing on something. [00:53:20] – Mandatory happy hour Companies which have a snack room, ping pong table, foosball can contribute to company culture and make it a much more attractive place for developers. But Alyssa gets scared a little bit when programmers go overboard and sometimes you’re not into it as much as they are. Picks Ward Bell Progressive Web Apps (PWA) Jake Archibald on PWA Joe Eames Shimmer Lake Keith Stewart Charles Angular Dev Summit Camelbak Eddy water bottle JAM XT Bluetooth speaker Bonnie Brennan Pluralsight course on Angular Reactive Forms by Deborah Kurata Todd Motto’s Ultimate Angular JS Twitter @bonnster75 Youtube ngHouston Angular Meetup Keith Stewart Adam Laycock’s blog post: Building maintainable Angular 2 applications Rogue One Twitter @TheKeithStewart

AiA 146: 10 Ways to Lose a Developer with Bonnie Brennan and Keith Stewart On today's episode of Adventures in Angular, we have panelists Ward Bell, Alyssa Nicoll, Joe Eames, and Charles Max Wood. We have special guests, Bonnie Brennan of ngHouston and Keith Stewart of CollabNet. The discussion ranges from the Most Common Reason for People to Leave to Mandatory Happy Hour that companies have! Stay tuned! [00:01:05] Introduction to Bonnie Brennan and Keith Stewart Bonnie is an Angular architect at Houston, Texas. She is the founder of ngHouston. She also runs Code Bridge Texas with her daughter. They do free programming workshops for girls. She’s going to be at a couple of conferences coming up. They’re going to AngularMix and FrontEnd Connect with Alyssa. Keith, on the other hand, works for a company called CollabNet as a UI Tech Lead. He is working mostly on UI’s for DevOps-related products. He is also a frequent panelist on the ngHouston Meet up broadcast that Bonnie runs and a curator on ngDoc.io with Alyssa and Joe. [00:03:20] – Most common reason for people to leave If Bonnie has to narrow down, she thinks it’s the tech stack. Some companies have a lot of legacy code that needs to be maintained but at the same time, when you are a developer who spends a lot of time on emerging technologies, you want to be working on this new stuff that you’re learning. While working on this course on how to find a better dev job, Charles surveyed people on Skype or the phone. They feel stuck and not moving ahead. [00:10:50] – In the culture, if you’re not a performer, then, you’re not trying hard enough? Joe thinks that we have this problem in this industry that if you are not going to be blogging and speaking at conferences, then, you just don’t belong. Ward also thinks that you don’t have to be a performer to contribute to a great development environment. But for Bonnie, being a performer is not exactly about getting up on stage. It really is about caring enough. Alyssa tells about the gradient of the type of person. There’s a person like, “Okay, this is just a job for me but I still take pride in my work.” But if you’re in the mindset of “Hey, I have kids or I have a wife outside of this. But I’m still giving it my all while I’m here.” Then, it’s perfectly reasonable. Keith also tells about the two different types of people. The generalists, the folks who are on the bleeding-edge, they don’t necessarily master one of those, and the other folks who get really good at one particular thing that they’re working on. Ward cites an instance where you’re in an enterprise and you have a lot of very important legacy systems that need a person who cares about the legacy stuff. You can’t have a company that has all people who have to be on the bleeding-edge all the time. [00:18:55] – Type of developers that companies want and how to keep them Ward mentions how professional growth is important. The opportunities for people to work on the leading technologies is not always something that every company can offer but they can sprinkle these opportunities here and there. It can be done but if it’s not, there are things that you can do with some of the legacy applications to make them more palatable to work on. Charles suggests to companies to show the developers that you care, you are listening. It’s on the roadmap and you’re going to get there. [00:22:55] – Is boss on your list of Ways to Lose a Developer? Bonnie can’t think of the time that she has left because of her boss. But the company culture is an important thing because however, the upper management feels about culture, that’s going to trickle down. One issue about Charles’ boss is that he is very controlling. Another issue is he was specifying the requirements for the application and he wasn’t very good at staying consistent with it. They wind up building one thing but gets angry with them because they hadn’t built what he wanted, even though it was exactly what he specified. Bonnie also had a situation similar to Charles where the project requirements kept changing while she was writing the code. If you feel like you’re going to work to be frustrated again, it doesn’t matter what technology you’re using, it doesn’t matter how you like the rest of your co-workers, eventually, you’re going to burn out. [00:27:00] – Not being paid enough When you’re not making a whole lot of money, Bonnie thinks it can be a big deal but it’s not the biggest issue. For Keith, if he would be weighing two companies, he’ll also choose the company with the good tech stack instead of the company which pays a little higher. But Ward thinks that it is a privilege to be in an industry where even in the low-end of the salary rank, you tend to be pretty comfortable. [00:29:55] – Effective ways to show your appreciation to a developer Bonnie refers to an instance when the boss gives credit for a developer in a meeting on how he did a great job on a feature. And on the flipside, the worst kind of boss is the boss that says, “Look what I did.” But Keith finds it a difficult question because it might be different for other people. Some people like to be called out in a meeting and say, “You did a good job.” But some folks would like that to be a little more behind the scenes. Or some folks might be looking for a bonus instead. So you might be able to read your people. For Alyssa, she likes the boss who regularly checks in even if it’s not a pat on the back because it just shows that they care about the process. Ward speaks of the boss who asks your opinion on an important decision, technical or otherwise. [00:37:40] – Recruitment Keith never likes the recruitment process of companies which bring a lot of people in and give them coding exercises on a whiteboard. So they built a small application that’s similar to the application that the folks will actually be doing. [00:41:05] – Remote vs. working in an office Alyssa loves being remote. She mentions she has ADHD so she was distracted in an office setting. It’s important for her to set up her environment to be more productive. Bonnie also has been working remote for 3 years now. It used to be difficult to communicate but now, we can just use video call. But Keith finds people more engaged in a meeting when it’s in person. An office space can add a lot of value to a team. Ward points out that you can also be distracted as well by working remote. In Google, they all work in the office. Even though they have open office plans, sitting right next to each other, they trust the people that they can do well in that environment. People put on headphones when they’re really focusing on something. [00:53:20] – Mandatory happy hour Companies which have a snack room, ping pong table, foosball can contribute to company culture and make it a much more attractive place for developers. But Alyssa gets scared a little bit when programmers go overboard and sometimes you’re not into it as much as they are. Picks Ward Bell Progressive Web Apps (PWA) Jake Archibald on PWA Joe Eames Shimmer Lake Keith Stewart Charles Angular Dev Summit Camelbak Eddy water bottle JAM XT Bluetooth speaker Bonnie Brennan Pluralsight course on Angular Reactive Forms by Deborah Kurata Todd Motto’s Ultimate Angular JS Twitter @bonnster75 Youtube ngHouston Angular Meetup Keith Stewart Adam Laycock’s blog post: Building maintainable Angular 2 applications Rogue One Twitter @TheKeithStewart

Is Angular ready for the enterprise? Carl and Richard talk to John Papa about the latest version of Angular and it's applicability in every day enterprise development. John discusses how the fast-moving updates of open source projects are a challenge for enterprise developers and the solutions available - you don't have to always use the latest bits! The role of the cloud (specifically Azure) is also explored, and John talks about Azure Functions as a great way to build server-side elements of your application quickly and painlessly, without a lot of ceremony and provisioning. And if you think that's cool, you want to come to AngularMix, Oct 10-12 at Universal Studios in Orlando, Florida!Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/net-rocks/donations

Is Angular ready for the enterprise? Carl and Richard talk to John Papa about the latest version of Angular and it's applicability in every day enterprise development. John discusses how the fast-moving updates of open source projects are a challenge for enterprise developers and the solutions available - you don't have to always use the latest bits! The role of the cloud (specifically Azure) is also explored, and John talks about Azure Functions as a great way to build server-side elements of your application quickly and painlessly, without a lot of ceremony and provisioning. And if you think that's cool, you want to come to AngularMix, Oct 10-12 at Universal Studios in Orlando, Florida!Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/net-rocks/donations