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This is a recap of the top 10 posts on Hacker News on January 18, 2026. This podcast was generated by wondercraft.ai (00:30): jQuery 4Original post: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46664755&utm_source=wondercraft_ai(01:59): Gaussian Splatting – A$AP Rocky "Helicopter" music videoOriginal post: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46670024&utm_source=wondercraft_ai(03:28): Iconify: Library of Open Source IconsOriginal post: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46665411&utm_source=wondercraft_ai(04:57): Predicting OpenAI's ad strategyOriginal post: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46668021&utm_source=wondercraft_ai(06:26): Statement by Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, the Netherlands,Norway,Sweden,UKOriginal post: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46669025&utm_source=wondercraft_ai(07:55): A Social FilesystemOriginal post: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46665839&utm_source=wondercraft_ai(09:24): Command-line Tools can be 235x Faster than your Hadoop Cluster (2014)Original post: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46666085&utm_source=wondercraft_ai(10:54): Erdos 281 solved with ChatGPT 5.2 ProOriginal post: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46664631&utm_source=wondercraft_ai(12:23): The Nobel Prize and the Laureate Are InseparableOriginal post: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46669404&utm_source=wondercraft_ai(13:52): Police Invested Millions in Shadowy Phone-Tracking Software Won't Say How UsedOriginal post: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46672150&utm_source=wondercraft_aiThis is a third-party project, independent from HN and YC. Text and audio generated using AI, by wondercraft.ai. Create your own studio quality podcast with text as the only input in seconds at app.wondercraft.ai. Issues or feedback? We'd love to hear from you: team@wondercraft.ai

Today we are talking about Recording Podcasts, The tech used, and How Drupal Can help with guest Stephen Cross. We'll also cover Chosen as our module of the week. For show notes visit: https://www.talkingDrupal.com/535 Topics Podcasting and Second Signal Media Evolution of Podcasting Tech Essentials for Podcasting The CEO's Video Strategy Transformation Overcoming the Fear of Speaking on Camera The Importance of Consistency in Content Creation Editing vs. Authenticity in Video Content Choosing the Right Environment and Equipment Setting Realistic Goals for Your Podcast Recording Workflow Recommendations Tools and Tips for Improving Audio Quality Resources Basic Editing with Kdenlive Audio clean-up tools Izotope Secret sounds Guests Stephen Cross - stephencross Hosts Nic Laflin - nLighteneddevelopment.com nicxvan John Picozzi - epam.com johnpicozzi Andy Giles - dripyard.com andyg5000 MOTW Correspondent Martin Anderson-Clutz - mandclu.com mandclu Brief description: Have you ever wanted to give users on your Drupal site a more intuitive alternative to native HTML multiselect widgets? There's a module for that. Module name/project name: Chosen Brief history How old: created in Jul 2011 by shadcn but recent releases are by Bálint Nagy (nagy.balint) of Hungary Versions available: 3.0.6, 4.0.3, and 5.0.3, the last of which works with Drupal 10.2 or 11 Maintainership Actively maintained Security coverage Test coverage Number of open issues: 221 open issues, 4 of which are bugs against the 5.x branch Usage stats: Almost 38,000 sites Module features and usage With the module installed, your Drupal site will selectively replace select elements with a more intuitive widget, leveraging the Chosen library. In the module's configuration you can specify how many options should trigger Chosen, and also specify form field selectors to explicitly include or exclude. The three active branches of the module reflect usage of different forks of the Chosen library. Notably, the 5.x versions use a fork that no longer requires jQuery, and allows Chosen to be enabled for mobile devices. In addition to the module configuration, you can also force a custom form's select element to use the Chosen library simply by adding the "chosen-select" class to the form array. Back in episode #409 we talked about Tagify, which in some ways is similar, but is designed specifically to work with entity reference fields. That makes it less "general purpose", though Tagify does also include some additional capabilities, such as being able to include labels or icons on results based on a property of the result. Years ago I used another popular project called Select2 for turning multiselects into listboxes that included a search filter, but that project relied on a library that required jQuery but is incompatible with jQuery 4. So, Select2 has been officially replaced by Tagify, but Chosen could also be useful if your field is not an entity reference. There are a variety similar modules you can also look at, including Choices.js, Selectize, and Selectify, but Chosen is by far the most widely used, even if you're only looking at numbers for the 5.x branch

jQuery(document).ready(function(){ cab.clickify(); }); Original Podcast with clickable words https://tinyurl.com/27fsagpu Contact: irishlingos@gmail.com Five people injured in arson attack in Dublin. Cúigear gortaithe in ionsaí coirloiscthe i mBaile Átha Cliath. A woman in her forties and a teenage boy were seriously injured in an arson attack on a house in Finglas, north Dublin, early this morning. Gortaíodh go han-dona bean sna daichidí agus buachaill sna déaga in ionsaí coirloiscthe a rinneadh ar theach i bhFionnghlas i dtuaisceart Bhaile Átha Cliath go moch ar maidin inniu. A woman in her twenties and two teenage girls were also injured in the attack on the house on Creston Avenue at around 12.45 this morning. Gortaíodh chomh maith bean sna fichidí agus beirt chailíní sna déaga san ionsaí a rinneadh ar an teach ar Ascaill Creston ag thart ar 12.45 ar maidin. The lives of the last three are said to be out of danger. Deirtear nach bhfuil beatha an triúir dheireanaigh sin i mbaol. The five are being treated at Connolly Hospital in Blanchardstown and the Children’s Hospital on Temple Street. Tá cóir leighis á chur ar an gcúigear in Ospidéal Uí Chonghaile i mBaile Bhlainséir agus in Ospidéal na Leanaí ar Shráid Temple. The Gardaí are to conduct a forensic examination of the house shortly. Tá scrúdú dlí- eolaíochta le déanamh ag na Gardaí ar an teach gan mhoill. Between the two lines, they are appealing to anyone who saw anything out of the ordinary in the Creston area last night to come talk to them. Idir an dá línn, tá siad ag achainí ar aon duine a chonaic aon ní as bealach i gceantar Creston aréir teacht chun cainte leo. RTÉ News and Current Affairs The malicious burning took place on Creston Avenue in Finglas Nuacht agus Cúrsaí Reatha RTÉ Is ar Ascaill Creston i bhFionnghlas a rinneadh an dó mailíseach

 jQuery(document).ready(function(){ cab.clickify(); }); Original Podcast with clickable words Contact: irishlingos@gmail.com Your browser does not support the audio element. Trump announces Hamas must lay down its weapons. Trump ag fógairt ar Hamas a gcuid arm a chur de láimh. US President Donald Trump has warned Hamas in Gaza to immediately hand over their weapons – or they will pay dearly, he said. Tá fógra tugtha ag Uachtarán na Stát Aontaithe Donald Trump do Hamas in Gaza a gcuid arm a chur de láimh gan mhoill – é sin nó íocfaidh siad go daor as, arsa sé. Trump claimed that the Israelis had fulfilled their promises so far regarding the ceasefire in Gaza and said that it was now up to Hamas to do the same. Mhaígh Trump go raibh a gcuid gealltanas comhlíonta ag na hIosraelaigh go dtí seo maidir leis an sos comhraic in Gaza agus dúirt gur ar Hamas a bhí sé anois déanamh amhlaidh. Trump was speaking at a press conference in Florida after a meeting he had with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu there yesterday. Ag labhairt ag preasócáid in Florida a bhí Trump tar éis cruinniú a bhí aige le Príomh-Aire Iosrael Benjamin Netanyahu ansin inné. Hamas had said earlier yesterday that they had no intention of handing over their weapons. Bhí sé ráite ag Hamas níos túisce inné nach raibh lá rúin acu a gcuid arm a chur de láimh. Trump is said to be excited about implementing the next part of his own plan for what’s to come for Gaza, which is to install a “technocratic” Palestinian government there with the support of an international military force. Deirtear go bhfuil Trump ar bís leis an gcéad chuid eile dá phlean féin maidir lena bhfuil i ndán do Gaza a chur i bhfeidhm, is é sin rialtas “teicnealathach” Palaistíneach a chur i gcumhacht ann le tacaíocht ó fhórsa míleata idirnáisiúnta. At the same press conference, with Netanyahu at his side, Trump said he would thwart any new attempt by Iran to develop nuclear power or produce ballistic missiles. Ag an bpreasócáid chéanna, agus Netanyahu lena thaobh, dúirt Trump go gcuirfeadh sé ó mhaith aon iarracht as an nua a dhéanfadh an Iaráin cumhacht núicléach a fhorbairt nó diúracáin bhalaistíocha a tháirgeadh. Nuclear facilities in Iran were severely damaged by bombing attacks carried out by the Americans and Israelis at the beginning of the summer. Rinneadh damáiste mór d’ionaid núicléacha san Iaráin de bharr ionsaithe buamála a rinne na Meiriceánaigh agus na hIosraelaigh orthu i dtús an tsamhraidh. RTÉ News and Current Affairs Nuacht agus Cúrsaí Reatha RTÉ

jQuery(document).ready(function(){ cab.clickify(); }); Original Podcast with clickable words https://tinyurl.com/23mtvmny Contact: irishlingos@gmail.com Gardaí recommend road safety over Christmas. Cúram ar na bóithre á mholadh ag na Gardaí thar an Nollaig. Today is the busiest day on the State's roads during the Christmas period, and An Garda Síochána is urging drivers to slow down and be mindful of other drivers, pedestrians and cyclists. Inniu an lá is gnóthaí ar bhóithre an Stáit i rith thréimhse na Nollag, agus tá an Garda Síochána ag impí ar thiománaithe maolú ar an luas agus bheith airdeallach faoi thiománaithe eile, coisithe agus rothaithe. Gardaí are today launching a 24-hour campaign to enforce speed limits more strictly, coinciding with this increase in Christmas traffic. Tá feachtas 24 huaire ar bun ag Gardaí inniu féachaint le teorainneacha luais a chur i bfheidhm níos géire, chomhuaineach leis an méadú seo ar an trácht Nollag. Gardaí say this is the latest element of a seasonal campaign which hopes to reduce the number of road accidents. Deir Gardaí gurb é seo an gné is deireanai den bhfeachtas séasúrtha atá ag súil le líon na dtaismí bóthair a laghdú. Drivers are being asked to stay within speed limits and be extra careful due to the high level of traffic and long journeys people are making. Táthar ag iarraidh ar thiománaithe fanacht laistigh de na teorainneacha luais agus bheith níos cúramaí de bharr an leibhéal ard tráchta agus turasanna fada atá ar bun ag daoine. 180 people have died on the State's roads so far in 2025. 180 duine a bhásaigh ar bhóithre an Stáit go dtí seo i 2025. Almost all bus, train, ferry and air services are at their peak today, as people head home for Christmas. Tá beagnach gach seirbhís bus, traenach, bád farantóireachta agus aeir ar teann a ndíchill inniu, agus daoine ag déanamh ar an mbaile don Nollaig. The services are recommending that people make advance reservations whenever possible. Tá na seirbhísí ag moladh do dhaoine réamh-áirithint a dhéanamh nuair is féidir. 50,000 people will come through Dublin airport today alone, with thousands more landing at Cork, Shannon, and Knock. 50,000 duine a thiocfaidh trí aerfort Átha Cliath inniu féin, leis na mílte eile ag tuirlingt ag Corcaigh, an tSionna, agus Cnoc Mhuire.

Today we are talking about The Drupal At-Large Board Seat, What the job entails, and some common misconceptions with guest Fei Lauren. We'll also cover Token Browser as our module of the week. For show notes visit: https://www.talkingDrupal.com/533 Topics Understanding the Drupal Association at Large Board Seat Responsibilities and Experiences of a Board Member Challenges and Insights from Serving on the Board Community Representation and Accountability Skills and Qualities for Aspiring Board Members Navigating Board Member Responsibilities Community Perception and Board Care Global Community Engagement Challenges and Impact of Board Decisions Encouraging Non-Technical Contributions Reflections and Future Plans Election Process and Imposter Syndrome Resources Board of directors working groups Board of directors Guests Fei Lauren - feilauren Hosts Martin Anderson-Clutz - mandclu.com mandclu Nic Laflin - nLighteneddevelopment.com nicxvan MOTW Correspondent Nic Laflin - nLighteneddevelopment.com nicxvan Brief description: Have you ever wanted an improved token browser that loads quickly and doesn't have a depth limit? There's a module for that. Module name/project name: Token Browser Brief history How old: created in Nov 2025 by Andy Marquis (apmsooner) https://talkingdrupal.com/505 Versions available: 1.0.0 which works with Drupal core 11.3 or newer Maintainership Actively maintained Security coverage Test coverage Number of open issues: 2 open issues, 1 of which is a bug Usage stats: 3 sites Module features and usage The Token Browser module provides a rebuilt version of the standard token browser. Notably, it only renders the first level during the initial request, and then requests deeper levels as needed using all the latest HTMX improvements in Drupal core 11.3 It's worth noting that the initial version requires an alternative theme function be attached to form elements where you want to use the new Token Browser, so it doesn't actually replace the standard version Also, there seems to be an issue where the HTMX library doesn't load on cached pages, which is the one open issue. I pinged Andy about it and it sounds like he has a fix in the works. Finally, this module is similar to an older module called Fast Token Browser, but that module was never updated to work with versions of Drupal newer than 7, and relied on jQuery for its AJAX functionality

Jahresreflexion als Coachingübung: Wo stehst du jetzt, wo willst du hin? Herzlich Willkommen zu unserer 3-teiligen Coaching-Blog-Reihe, mit der du deine Ziele, Ergebnisse & vor allem nächsten Schritte für echte Überzeugungskraft in 2026 planst. Heute geht's nicht um klassische Vorsätze oder To-do-Listen. Sondern um etwas viel Wesentlicheres: Deine persönlichen Ziele in Form von innerem Wachstum, Klarheit und Wirkung. Wir werfen heute einen Blick darauf, wie du deine persönlichen Ziele am besten reflektierst und dich neu ausrichtest. Warum Jahresreflexion wichtiger ist als Vorsätze Vielleicht kennst du das: Das Jahr war voll, die Termine dicht, die Erwartungen hoch – von anderen und vor allem von dir selbst an dich. (Bei dir auch? Kenne ich nur zu gut!) Und jetzt – wo alles ein bisschen ruhiger wird – fragst du dich: Was hat dieses Jahr mit mir gemacht? Bin ich den Zielen näher gekommen, die mir wirklich wichtig sind? Oder bin ich einfach nur durchgerannt? Nimm dir hier die Zeit, innezuhalten. Nicht, um zu bewerten, was falsch oder richtig war, sondern um zu verstehen. Damit du in den nächsten 2 Coaching-Blogartikeln darauf aufbaust und die Basis für mehr Selbstsicherheit legst. #1 Wirkung & Selbstbild – Wie wolltest du wirken? Frag dich ehrlich: Wie bist du in diesem Jahr in wichtigen Momenten aufgetreten – in Präsentationen, Mitarbeitergesprächen und Meetings? Hast du die Ruhe, die Klarheit, die Präsenz gespürt, die du dir wünschst? Oder gab es Momente, in denen Aufregung, Unsicherheit oder Druck die Führung übernommen haben? Deine persönlichen Ziele zeigen sich nicht in To-do-Listen, sondern in der Wirkung, die du an jedem einzelnen Tag, jedem einzelnen dieser Momente hinterlässt. 1. Coachingfrage für dich: „Wie willst du wahrgenommen werden – und was hat dich bisher daran gehindert?“ #2 Innere Haltung Viele Führungskräfte erzählen mir: „Ich hätte etwas sagen wollen, aber ich hab's gelassen – aus Angst, zu hart oder zu emotional zu wirken.“ Doch jedes Mal, wenn du zurückhältst, was du sagen willst, verlierst du ein Stück von deiner Souveränität und bist weniger glaubwürdig. 2. Coachingfrage für dich: Wo hast du dich zurückgenommen – obwohl du eigentlich wusstest, dass deine Meinung zählt? #3 Stimme & Wirkung in der Jahresreflexion Wo hast du deine Stimme wirklich genutzt – und wo hast du sie zurückgehalten? Ich kenne das von früher noch so gut: Mir ist ganz klar, was ich sagen will und alles bis ins kleinste Detail formuliert – aber im entscheidenden Moment versagt mir die Stimme. Ich klinge plötzlich wie ein blutiger Anfänger und kann mich selbst nicht ernst nehmen. Ist dir das auch schon passiert? 3. Coachingfrage für dich: Wann in diesem Jahr hast du deine Wirkung sabotiert? Und wann ist es dir gelungen, so souverän und überzeugend zu sein, wie du es in deiner Führungsposition brauchst? #4 Entwicklung – Was hat dich dieses Jahr gelehrt? Manchmal lernen wir am meisten durch Konflikte, Hindernisse und das Verlassen der Komfortzone. Vielleicht gab es dieses Jahr Momente, in denen du aufgeregt warst, gezweifelt hast oder dich klein gefühlt hast. Und genau da liegt dein Wachstum. Denn Souveränität entsteht nicht durch Perfektion, sondern durch Bewusstsein – durch den Moment, in dem du merkst: „Ich kann mich verändern.“ Was hat dich dieses Jahr über dich selbst gelehrt? Für mich war's das Gleichgewicht zwischen Leisten und Loslassen. Etwas, das ich auch bei meinen Klienten dieses Jahr besonders oft erlebt habe. Viele Führungskräfte vergessen in ihrer Jahresreflexion: Gelassenheit entsteht nicht durch mehr Kontrolle, sondern durch Vertrauen. 3 Coachingfragen an dich für deine Jahresreflexion: Wo warst du mutig – und wo noch zu vorsichtig? Welche Situationen haben dich aus der Balance gebracht – und warum? Was willst du loslassen, um sicherer und gelassener zu werden? Dein nächster Schritt: Nimm dir Zeit für dich Schreib dir die Coachingfragen für deine Jahresreflexion auf. Mach's dir gemütlich mit einem Kaffee oder Spaziergang – und spür mal rein, was sich zeigen darf. Und wenn du im neuen Jahr deine Stimme, Wirkung und innere Stärke weiterentwickeln willst:

Strategic Technology Consultation Services This episode of The Modern .NET Show is supported, in part, by RJJ Software's Strategic Technology Consultation Services. If you're an SME (Small to Medium Enterprise) leader wondering why your technology investments aren't delivering, or you're facing critical decisions about AI, modernization, or team productivity, let's talk. Show Notes "And the first feature we have that take advantage of this deep integration is the Profiler Agent. And this is absolutely bonkers. So you can simply go to the chat window in Visual Studio and you can ask…"— Mads Kristensen Hey everyone, and welcome back to The Modern .NET Show; the premier .NET podcast, focusing entirely on the knowledge, tools, and frameworks that all .NET developers should have in their toolbox. I'm your host Jamie Taylor, bringing you conversations with the brightest minds in the .NET ecosystem. Today, we're joined by Mads Kristensen to talk about all things IDEs, tooling, and the new functionality that Visual Studio 2026 (aka "Dev 18") includes and how it has the chance of greatly impacting your development practice, in a fantastic way! "And we want to make sure that You know, we we do as many of those as we can. We want to remove those paper cuts, make you as happy as possible. And so if you look back at the last 12 months, we have of you know of all the bugs people have opened on us, we fixed almost 4500 user-reported bugs. That's 18 bugs that we fixed every single work day."— Mads Kristensen Did you know that Mads was present for what many see as the inciting incident that lead to .NET being both open source and cross platform: when jQuery was bundled with ASP .NET Framework and Visual Studio.. We also took some time to talk about bug reports, the things that you and I can do to ensure that our bug reports are read, providing positive feedback, the Visual Studio teams' velocity, and some of the amazing new features in Visual Studio 2026 like the ... well, I'm getting ahead of myself. You'll have to listen in to the episode to find out what those features are. It's also worth noting that I recorded this podcast with Mads back in late August 2025, which was way ahead of the public preview of Visual Studio 2026. Whilst we didn't talk about anything that was super secret, things might have changed between recording the episode and you listening in. Before we jump in, a quick reminder: if The Modern .NET Show has become part of your learning journey, please consider supporting us through Patreon or Buy Me A Coffee. Every contribution helps us continue bringing you these in-depth conversations with industry experts. You'll find all the links in the show notes. Anyway, without further ado, let's sit back, open up a terminal, type in `dotnet new podcast` and we'll dive into the core of Modern .NET. Full Show Notes The full show notes, including links to some of the things we discussed and a full transcription of this episode, can be found at: https://dotnetcore.show/season-8/unpacking-visual-studio-2026-new-features-bug-fixes-and-whats-coming-next-with-mads-kristensen/ Useful Links: BlogEngine .NET visualstudio.com Mads on X (formerly Twitter) the Visual Studio team on X Supporting the show: Leave a rating or review Buy the show a coffee Become a patron Getting in touch: via the contact page joining the Discord Podcast editing services provided by Matthew Bliss Music created by Mono Memory Music, licensed to RJJ Software for use in The Modern .NET Show Editing and post-production services for this episode were provided by MB Podcast Services Supporting the show: Leave a rating or review Buy the show a coffee Become a patron Getting in Touch: Via the contact page Joining the Discord Remember to rate and review the show on Apple Podcasts, Podchaser, or wherever you find your podcasts, this will help the show's audience grow. Or you can just share the show with a friend. And don't forget to reach out via our Contact page. We're very interested in your opinion of the show, so please get in touch. You can support the show by making a monthly donation on the show's Patreon page at: https://www.patreon.com/TheDotNetCorePodcast. Music created by Mono Memory Music, licensed to RJJ Software for use in The Modern .NET Show. Editing and post-production services for this episode were provided by MB Podcast Services.

Raus aus Nervosität – rein in Ruhe, damit du die Komfortzone verlassen kannst Neulich saß mir Dana, Head of HR – langjährige Führungserfahrung – im Stimmcoaching gegenüber und sagte: „Laura, ich merke, dass ich eigentlich viel souveräner auftreten könnte. Aber irgendwie… bleib ich in alten Mustern hängen. Ich bin nervös, rede zu schnell – und obwohl ich weiß, wie es besser geht, kann ich es einfach nicht ändern.“ Und genau das passiert so vielen Führungskräften. Sie wissen theoretisch, wie souveränes Auftreten geht – aber ihr Nervensystem bremst sie praktisch. Kennst du das von dir auch, du weißt es besser, aber deine Gewohnheit ist noch auf „unsicher, angespannt, gestresst“ eingestellt? Lass uns das genauer ansehen, denn es ist auch deine Komfortzone, die dich dort festhält. Komfortzone verlassen: Warum dein Körper an Unsicherheit festhält Dein Nervensystem liebt das, was es kennt – auch wenn es dich stresst. Das Zittern vor einer Präsentation, der flache Atem, das angespannte Lächeln – all das ist vertraut. Paradox, oder? Aber für dein System bedeutet „bekannt“ = „sicher“. Das neue, souveräne Auftreten dagegen fühlt sich erstmal fremd und unsicher an – obwohl es dein eigentliches Ziel ist. Es ist ungewohnt für deinen Körper, wenn du jahrelang nervös warst und jetzt ruhig, gelassen und sicher bist. Und weil dein Körper das nicht kennt, will er dich am liebsten sofort wieder in die alte, nervöse Komfortzone zurückschicken. Dein Hirn liebt den Sparmodus. Veränderung = Aufwand = Risiko. Wenn du beschließt, deine Wirkung zu steigern, meldet das Gehirn Alarm: „Warte mal, das kostet Energie.“ Das ist nicht dein Versagen — das ist Biologie. Das zu wissen, macht den Schritt leichter. Die vier Zonen kurz & knapp Verstehe deine Komfortzone. Sie besteht aus vier Zonen: Komfortzone→ Angstzone → Lernzone → Wachstumszone. Die Angstzone ist keine Gefahr, sondern ein Wegweiser, dass du dich dort entwickeln kannst. Das ist dein Ausgangsschild, wenn du die Komfortzone verlassen willst. Dahinter liegt deine starke Stimme, Präsenz, Gelassenheit — und genau dort entsteht echte Führungskraft. Coaching-Übung: Frage dich: Wo bleibst du noch sicher, obwohl du mehr willst? Was kostet dich das? Stell dir abends vor, wie du dich nach einer gelungenen Präsentation fühlst — nicht als Fantasie, als Ziel. Dieses Bild trägt dich durch die Angstzone. Wenn du Hilfe willst, um die Komfortzone verlassen zu können und das neue Verhalten wirklich zu verankern, stehe ich gern an deiner Seite. Hier geht’s zum kostenfreien Startercoaching. Veränderung beginnt da, wo du bleibst Echte Selbstsicherheit entsteht nicht, wenn du dich bereit fühlst, sondern wenn du lernst, das Ungewohnte auszuhalten. Wenn du trainierst, trotz Aufregung ruhig zu atmen. Trotz Stress präsent zu bleiben. Trotz innerem Zittern souverän zu sprechen. Das ist genau der Moment, in dem dein Nervensystem neu lernt:„Ah – das ist Sicherheit.“ Und plötzlich wird Gelassenheit dein neuer Standard. Wenn du lernen willst, dein Auftreten souverän zu verändern – körperlich, stimmlich und mental –, dann begleite ich dich genau dabei. Buche dein kostenfreies Startercoaching mit mir und wir bringen dich Schritt für Schritt raus aus der alten Komfortzone – rein in echte, spürbare Überzeugungskraft. Ich freue mich auf dich, Alles Liebe, Deine Laura P.S. Buch dir gern hier direkt schon deinen Termin bei mir, solange sie noch da sind: var onloadSibCallback = function () { jQuery('.g-recaptcha').each(function (index, el) { grecaptcha.render(el, { 'sitekey': jQuery(el).attr('data-sitekey') }); }); }; Email Addresse* VORNAME form#sib_signup_form_1 p.sib-alert-message { padding: 6px 12px; margin-bottom: 20px; border: 1px solid transparent; border-radius: 4px; -webkit-box-sizing: border-box; -moz-box-sizing: border-box; box-sizing: border-box; } form#sib_signup_form_1 p.sib-alert-message-error { background-color: #f2dede; border-color: #ebccd1; color: #a94442; } form#sib_signup_form_1 p.sib-alert-message-success { background-color: #dff0d8; border-color: #d6e9c6; color: #3c763d; } form#sib_signup_form_1 p.sib-alert-message-warning { background-color: #fcf8e3; border-color: #faebcc; color: #8a6d3b; } Der Beitrag Komfortzone verlassen: Rein in echte Selbstsicherheit! erschien zuerst auf Seidirselbstbewusst.

It's that time of year—each host reaches into Santa's sack of topics to see who's been naughty and who's been nice. Ben returns from visiting his employer's manufacturing headquarters in Georgia with some philosophical musings. Carol is on a mission to slash CI/CD build times. Adam has cautiously optimistic news about passkeys finally working (sometimes). And Tim reflects on a TLDR article suggesting that the management skills you've built—knowing what to build and what not to build—might be exactly what AI-era coding demands.Plus: December blues, mushroom tea for focus, and jQuery as peak imperative JavaScript.Links mentioned:Owning A Lucid Has Been Super DisappointingDriving Xiaomi's Electric Car: Are we Cooked?Follow the show and be sure to join the discussion on Discord! Our website is workingcode.dev and we're @workingcode.dev on Bluesky. New episodes drop weekly on Wednesday.And, if you're feeling the love, support us on Patreon.With audio editing and engineering by ZCross Media.Full show notes and transcript here.

Katrin Hill verrät dir, wie du mehr Erfolg im Business hast Mit Katrin Hill sprechen wir darüber, wie Sichtbarkeit, Authentizität und Persönlichkeit zusammenwirken, wenn es darum geht, Vertrauen aufzubauen und Menschen wirklich zu erreichen – ob online oder im echten Leben. Heute habe ich eine ganz besondere Frau im Interview: Katrin Hill – Unternehmerin, Online-Marketing-Expertin und eine der bekanntesten Stimmen im deutschsprachigen Social-Media-Marketing. Deshalb ist sie genau die richtige Expertin, wenn es darum geht, mehr Erfolg in dein Business zu bringen – als Selbstständige und Führungskraft. Wie bringen wir mehr Freude ins Business? Katrin Hill erzählt, dass echte Freude oft dann zurückkommt, wenn wir innehalten und ehrlich prüfen: Was macht mir Freude – und was raubt mir Energie?Diese Klarheit ist die Basis für echten Erfolg. Wichtig ist nach der Erkenntnis: Setze das auch um, lege deinen Fokus auf die Arbeit, die dir Energie gibt. Soweit es möglich ist, such dir Unterstützung in den Themengebieten, die dich auslaugen. Und frage dich regelmäßig: Braucht es diese Aufgaben noch? Braucht es sie noch in der Intensität oder Häufigkeit? Wie kannst du deinen Businessalltag so verändern, dass er dir mehr Freude bringt? Baue dein Business um dein Leben Katrin Hill: Statt dich in To-dos zu verlieren, gib Aufgaben ab und gestalte deinen Business-Alltag so, dass er Leben unterstützt – nicht umgekehrt. Das ist im Angestelltenverhältnis auf den ersten Blick schwieriger, aber mit der richtigen Kommunikation funktioniert das auch sehr gut. Starte zuerst mit kleinen Veränderungen, die oft schon viel bewirken können. Ich habe dabei selbst auch einige Rahmenbedingungen aufgestellt, die mir gut tun. Die Schulferien mache ich immer frei, damit ich die Zeit mit meinen Kindern verbringen kann. Das sorgt dafür, dass ich danach wieder mit voller Energie für meine Kunden da sein kann. Erfolg darf größer gedacht werden In ihrer Jahresplanung denkt Katrin „10-mal so groß“ – nicht aus Druck, sondern aus Freude. Denn wer sich erlaubt, größer zu träumen, öffnet Räume für neue Chancen, Wachstum und Leichtigkeit. Willst du direkt starten mit den Tipps von Katrin? Sichere dir hier Katrins Onlinekurs für erfolgreiche Reels mit dem 100% Rabattcode „LauraReelsKurs“ (gültig bis 9.12.2026) Hier findest du mehr über Katrin: Instagram Katrins Podcast mit unserem Interview über „Stimme, Souveränität & Erfolg“ Wir wünschen dir dabei viel Erfolg, Alles Liebe, Katrin & Laura P.S. Willst du souverän und überzeugend sein? Dann sichere dir deinen Platz im kostenfreien Live-Workshop „Souverän auftreten für Führungskräfte“! Da bekommst du das klare System, mit dem du immer souverän auftrittst und so überzeugend bist, das du deine beruflichen Ziele leichter erreichst. var onloadSibCallback = function () { jQuery('.g-recaptcha').each(function (index, el) { grecaptcha.render(el, { 'sitekey': jQuery(el).attr('data-sitekey') }); }); }; Email Addresse* VORNAME Telefonnummer form#sib_signup_form_2 p.sib-alert-message { padding: 6px 12px; margin-bottom: 20px; border: 1px solid transparent; border-radius: 4px; -webkit-box-sizing: border-box; -moz-box-sizing: border-box; box-sizing: border-box; } form#sib_signup_form_2 p.sib-alert-message-error { background-color: #f2dede; border-color: #ebccd1; color: #a94442; } form#sib_signup_form_2 p.sib-alert-message-success { background-color: #dff0d8; border-color: #d6e9c6; color: #3c763d; } form#sib_signup_form_2 p.sib-alert-message-warning { background-color: #fcf8e3; border-color: #faebcc; color: #8a6d3b; } Der Beitrag Katrin Hill über Erfolg, Freude & Sichtbarkeit erschien zuerst auf Seidirselbstbewusst.

Deine Morgenroutine für starke Auftritte – so starte ich an Präsentationstagen Neulich kam diese wunderbare Frage über Instagram rein: „Laura, wie sieht eigentlich dein Morgen aus, wenn du weißt, dass du später auf der Bühne stehst?“ Das ist die Frage. Denn dein Morgen entscheidet, ob du später gelassen und souverän bist – oder innerlich kämpfst, während du versuchst, souverän zu wirken – aber innerlich stirbst (ich weiß, wovon ich spreche, mir ging es selbst lange so). Bevor du deine Morgenroutine startest, passe sie bitte zu 100% auf deine Persönlichkeit und Situation an. Welche Morgenroutine passt zu deiner inneren Uhr? Dafür bekommst du jetzt einen kurzen Exkurs in Sachen Chronotypen nach Dr. Michael Breus. Das ist ein modernes Konzept der inneren Uhr. Demnach gibt es: Löwe, Bär, Wolf und Delfin. Löwen: Frühstarter – top für frühe Routinen Bären: folgen dem Tagesrhythmus – perfekt für Vormittagsfokus Wölfe: abends kreativ, brauchen ruhigen Start Delfine: sensibel, brauchen Struktur und Achtsamkeit Wichtig: Entwickle deine Routine passend zu DIR – nicht umgekehrt. Nur so bleibst du in Balance und wirkst natürlich souverän. Ich bin ja Löwin durch und durch – Frühaufsteherin, Fokus-Fan, am Morgen voll in meiner Power – weil ich einfach so bin. (Dafür kannst du nach 22.00 nicht mehr viel mit mir anfangen, wenn andere gerade erst zur Party losziehen.) Egal, ob du Bär, Wolf oder Delfin bist – deine Routine darf deinem Rhythmus folgen, nicht dem von Instagram-Gurus, die um 5 Uhr Eisbäder nehmen. Schritt 1: Vergiss Perfektion. Finde deinen Flow. Das Chronotypen-Modell (nach Dr. Breus) teilt uns in vier Typen ein: Löwe, Bär, Wolf und Delfin. Und rate mal – keiner davon macht's „richtig“. Wichtig ist: Mach's so, dass du dich lebendig fühlst. Wenn du als Wolf morgens noch halbschlafend in die Kaffeemaschine sprichst – kein Problem. Deine Power kommt später. Ganz sicher. Schritt 2: Stimme dich ein in der Morgenroutine! Körper & Stimme aktivieren Kreise deine Schultern, öffne den Brustkorb und atme tief in Bauch, Brust und Rücken. Deine Stimme ist wie ein Muskel – sie liebt Warm-ups. Also: Schultern kreisen, Brustkorb öffnen, tief atmen. Dann summ ein sanftes „mmm“ (ja, wie beim guten Essen) – und spür, wie dein Brustkorb vibriert. Sag laut: „Ich bin da. Klar. Ruhig. Bereit.“ Das klingt einfach, aber trust me – dein Nervensystem bekommt sofort das Memo: Ich hab das im Griff. Schritt 3: Mindset first, Mails später. Kein Handy, kein Scrollen, keine Nachrichten – die ersten Minuten gehören DIR. Nur du, dein Kaffee (oder Tee) und zwei Minuten Stille. Dann stell dir vor, wie du souverän präsentierst, Menschen mitreißt, selbstbewusst wirkst. Atme tief ein und sag dir: „Heute bin ich gelassen. Heute bin ich sicher.“ Und Zack – Präsenz aktiviert. Aufregung? Keine Spur mehr nach dieser Morgenroutine. Fazit: Kein Hokuspokus – nur Fokus. Eine gute Morgenroutine macht dich nicht „besser“ – sie erinnert dich daran, wer du schon bist: Klar. Stark. Überzeugend. Viel Spaß beim Ausprobieren, Deine Laura P.S. Willst du das gleich vertiefen? Dann hol dir mein Audiotraining für 0€: „Sicher auftreten in 3 Minuten“. Da leite ich dir genau dir Morgenroutine an, mit der du in 3 Minuten deine gelassene, energievolle & starke Ausstrahlung verankerst für den Tag. Nur 3 Minuten jeden Morgen – und du klingst (und fühlst dich) souveräner als je zuvor. var onloadSibCallback = function () { jQuery('.g-recaptcha').each(function (index, el) { grecaptcha.render(el, { 'sitekey': jQuery(el).attr('data-sitekey') }); }); }; Email Addresse* VORNAME form#sib_signup_form_1 p.sib-alert-message { padding: 6px 12px; margin-bottom: 20px; border: 1px solid transparent; border-radius: 4px; -webkit-box-sizing: border-box; -moz-box-sizing: border-box; box-sizing: border-box; } form#sib_signup_form_1 p.sib-alert-message-error { background-color: #f2dede; border-color: #ebccd1; color: #a94442; } form#sib_signup_form_1 p.sib-alert-message-success { background-color: #dff0d8; border-color: #d6e9c6; color: #3c763d; } form#sib_signup_form_1 p.sib-alert-message-warning { background-color: #fcf8e3; border-color: #faebcc; color: #8a6d3b; } Der Beitrag Morgenroutine für deine beste Ausstrahlung erschien zuerst auf Seidirselbstbewusst.

jQuery(document).ready(function(){ cab.clickify(); }); Original Podcast with clickable words https://tinyurl.com/25xxkhcd Contact: irishlingos@gmail.com Places for rent: 35% increase in the number of event announcements. Áiteanna ar cíos: ardú 35 faoin gcéad ar an líon fógraí imeachta. There was a 35% increase in the number of eviction notices given by landlords to tenants in the third quarter of the year compared to the same period last year, according to new figures from the Residential Tenancies Board. Bhí ardú de 35 faoin gcéad ar an líon fógraí imeachta a thug tiarnaí talún do thionóntaí sa tríú ráithe den bhliain i gcomórtas leis an tréimhse chéanna anuraidh, de réir figiúirí nua ón mBord um Thionóntachtaí Cónaithe. 5,405 eviction notices were issued to tenants between July and September this year, and 61% of these notices were issued on the basis that the landlord intended to sell the property. Is 5,405 fógra imeachta a tugadh do thionóntaí idir Iúil agus Meán Fómhair i mbliana, agus is ar an mbonn go raibh rún ag an tiarna talún an mhaoin a dhíol a tugadh 61 faoin gcéad de na fógraí sin. It is believed that the significant increase in eviction notices is related to new rules that are due to be implemented next spring and are being frowned upon by landlords who only have one or two places to rent. Meastar go bhfuil baint ag an ardú suntasach atá tagtha ar fhógraí imeachta le rialacha nua atá le cur i bhfeidhm an t-earrach seo chugainn agus a bhfuil col leo ag tiarnaí talún nach bhfuil acu le ligean ar cíos ach áit nó dhó. As with these new rules, for example, a rent increase will be required to be equal to the increase in the rate of inflation, that is, or an annual increase of a maximum of 2%, whichever is lower. Mar leis na rialacha nua sin, cuir i gcás, ceanglófar ardú ar chíos den ardú ar ráta an bhoilsicthe, é sin nó ardú bliaintúil de 2 faoin gcéad ar a mhéid, pé acu is ísle. According to Rosemary Steen of the Residential Tenancies Board, while the increase in the number of eviction notices is a cause for concern, it is common for landlords to exit the rental sector. Dar le Rosemary Steen ón mBord um Thionóntachtaí Cónaithe cé gur údar imní an t-ardú ar an líon fógraí imeachta gur den ghnás é tiarnaí talún ag imeacht ón earnáil cíosa. Housing Minister James Browne said the new figures should take into account the increase in the number of tenancies despite the number of landlords falling. Dúirt an tAire Tithíochta James Browne nár mhór aird a thabhairt sna figiúirí nua ar an ardú atá tagtha ar an líon tionóntachtaí in ainneoin an líon tiarnaí talún a bheith ag ísliú. RTÉ News and Current Affairs Nuacht agus Cúrsaí Reatha RTÉ

Mit diesen wirkungsvollen Stimmübungen bei Heiserkeit, die uns in den kühlen Tagen zu verfolgen scheint. Dich auch? Stärke deine Stimme, bevor sie schlappmacht In den letzten Tagen kam diese Frage gleich mehrfach in meinen Posteingang: „Laura, was kann ich tun, wenn meine Stimme angeschlagen ist – und ich trotzdem souverän klingen will?“ Zuerst: Entspann dich und atme durch. Heiserkeit ist kein Zeichen, dass du schwach bist – sie ist ein Signal deines Körpers, dass du zu viel gegeben hast. Oder, dass deine Stimme einfach mal eine Pause braucht. (Wenn du erkältungsbedingt heiser bist, brauchen du und deine Stimme erst recht eine

 jQuery(document).ready(function(){ cab.clickify(); }); Original Podcast with clickable words https://tinyurl.com/22y38c45 Contact: irishlingos@gmail.com  Your browser does not support the audio element. America is asking Ukraine to relinquish the Donbas region. Meiriceá ag iarraidh ar an Úcráin réigiún Donbas a ligean uaithi. Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky has said that he is willing to cooperate with the United States on the peace plan that that country has drafted regarding the war in Ukraine. Tá sé ráite ag Uachtarán na hÚcráine Volodymyr Zelensky go bhfuil sé sásta comhoibriú leis na Stáit Aontaithe maidir leis an bplean síochána atá dréachtaithe ag an tír sin faoin gcogadh san Úcráin. What is needed now, he said, is beneficial work, which must be undertaken honestly and enthusiastically. Obair thairbheach a theastaíonn anois, arsa sé, a gcaithfear tabhairt fúithi go hionraic agus go beo. That's what Zelensky had to say about the American plan, however, he did not give any details and it seems from his measured and concise speech that he is really against it. Sin an méid a bhí le rá ag Zelensky faoi phlean na Meiriceánach, áfach, níor thug sé aon sonraí agus dealraíonn sé ón gcaint thomhaiste ghonta a rinne sé go bhfuil col aige leis i ndáiríre. US Secretary of the Army Dan Driscoll was in Kiev yesterday, where he discussed the plan first with representatives of the Ukrainian Government and then with Zelensky himself. Bhí Rúnaí Arm na Stát Aontaithe Dan Driscoll i gCív inné, áit ar phléigh sé an plean le hionadaithe ó Rialtas na hÚcráine i dtosach agus le Zelensky féin ina dhiaidh sin. A US government spokesman claimed that one of those representatives, Rustem Umerov, accepted the plan after proposing several amendments. Mhaígh urlabhraí ó Rialtas na Stát Aontaithe gur ghlac duine de na hiondaithe sin, Rustem Umerov, gur ghac sé leis an bplean tar éis dó roinnt leasuithe a mholadh. According to the plan, which has not been published but has been seen by the Reuters news agency, Ukraine would cede every inch of the Donbas region in the east of the country to Russia and the number of soldiers in the Ukrainian Army would be halved - in exchange for promises about Ukraine's security. De réir an phlean, nach bhfuil foilsithe ach atá feicthe ag an ngníomhaireacht nuachta Reuters, ghéillfeadh an Úcráin gach orlach de réigiún Donbas in oirthear na tíre don Rúis agus laghdófaí faoina leath an líon saighdiúirí atá in Arm na hÚcráine – é sin mar mhalairt ar ghealltanais faoi shlándáil na hÚcráine. The plan also states that Russia, Ukraine and the European Union would sign a non-aggression treaty; that no soldiers from the North Atlantic Treaty Organization would be sent to Ukraine; and that the number of member states in that organization would not be increased. Deirtear sa phlean freisin go síneodh an Rúis, an Úcráin agus an tAontas Eorpach conradh neamhionsaithe; nach gcuirfí chun na hÚcráine aon saighdiúirí ó Eagraíocht Chonradh an Atlantaigh Thuaidh; agus nach gcuirfí le líon na mballstát san eagraíocht sin. In addition, the international sanctions imposed on Russia since that country invaded Ukraine in early 2022 would be gradually lifted. Ina cheann sin, chuirfí deireadh de réir a chéile leis na smachtbhannaí idirnáisiúnta atá curtha ar an Rúis ó rinne an tír sin ionradh ar an Úcráin i dtús 2022. Russia would be invited back to participate in the G8 forum of countries and the United States would enter into a wide range of economic agreements with Russia regarding energy, natural resources, infrastructure, artificial intelligence, data centers and rare earth minerals in the Arctic region. Thabharfaí cuireadh don Rúis a bheith rannpháirteach an athuair i bhfóram thíortha an G8 agus dhéanfadh na Stáit Aontaithe raon leathan socruithe eacnamaíochta leis an Rúis maidir le fuinneamh, acmhainní nádúrtha, infreastruchtúr, intleacht shaorga, ionaid bhunachar sonraí agus mianraí tearcithreacha i réigiún an Artaigh. It is not known whether the Americans have discussed the plan with other European countries yet, but yesterday the European Union Foreign Ministers indicated that they were not overly impressed with what they had heard about it. Ní fios ar phléigh na Meiriceánaigh an plean le tíortha eile san Eoraip fós ach inné thug Airí Gnóthaí Eachtracha an Aontais Eorpaigh le tuiscint nach raibh siad róthógtha lena raibh cloiste acu ina leith. RTÉ News and Current Affairs Cars destroyed after airstrike by Russian military forces on the city of Odesa in southern Ukraine last night Nuacht agus Cúrsaí Reatha RTÉ Gluaisteáin scriosta tar éis ionsaí aeir a rinne fórsaí míleata na Rúise ar chathair Odesa i ndeisceart na hÚcráine aréir

Manche Gespräche laufen wie von selbst – andere enden in Missverständnissen. Gerade für Führungskräfte ist es entscheidend, die Kommunikationstypen zu verstehen – denn sie erklären, warum manche Gespräche mühelos funktionieren, während andere ins Leere laufen. Neulich im Coaching erzählte mir Martin, Abteilungsleiter eines großen Teams: Ich erkläre alles glasklar – aber manche Mitarbeiter schauen mich einfach nur an, als hätte ich in einer Fremdsprache gesprochen. Klingt vertraut? Du gibst dein Bestes, formulierst präzise – und trotzdem kommt deine Botschaft nicht an. Genau hier zeigt sich, wie wirkungsvoll es ist, die Kommunikationstypen zu kennen und die eigene Sprache gezielt anzupassen.

jQuery(document).ready(function(){ cab.clickify(); }); Original Podcast with clickable words https://tinyurl.com/24cpc2fh Contact: irishlingos@gmail.com Order given to re-imprison Enoch Burke. Ordú tugtha Enoch Burke a chur i bpríosún arís. The High Court has ordered secondary school teacher Enoch Burke to be re- imprisoned, and without delay, for his disregard of an order to stay away from Wilson's Hospital school in Co. Westmeath. Tá ordú tugtha ag an Ard-Chúirt an múinteoir meánscoile Enoch Burke a chur i bpríosún an athuair, agus gan mhoill, mar gheall ar an neamhaird atá sé a thabhairt ar ordú fanacht amach ó scoil Wilson's Hospital i gCo na hIarmhí. Judge Brian Cregan said in court today that Enoch Burke's strategy was to provoke conflict, insult people and bully people. Dúirt an Breitheamh Brian Cregan sa chúírt inniu gurbh é an straitéis a bhí ag Enoch Burke achrann a tharraingt, daoine a mhaslú agus bulaíocht a dhéanamh ar dhaoine. Despite being fined and having security guards placed on duty at the school, the judge said, Enoch Burke refused to stay away from the premises as ordered. In ainneoin gur gearradh fíneálacha air agus gur cuireadh gardaí slándála ar dualgas ag an scoil, arsa an breitheamh, dhiúltaigh Enoch Burke fanacht amach ón áit mar a ordaíodh dó. The judge also said that Enoch Burke had a duty to obey the law, like every other citizen, but instead the teacher and his family sought to undermine the authority of the courts. Dúirt an breitheamh freisin go raibh dulagas ar Enoch Burke géilleadh don dlí, cosúil le gach saoránach eile, ach ina áit sin gur fhéach an múinteoir agus a theaghlach leis an mbonn a bhaint d'údarás na gcúirteanna. The Burke family carried out a coordinated and sustained attack on the rule of law in this country, the judge said. Rinne muintir Burke ionsaí comhordaithe agus leanúnach ar riail an dlí sa tír seo, arsa an breitheamh. RTÉ News and Current Affairs Nuacht agus Cúrsaí Reatha RTÉ

jQuery(document).ready(function(){ cab.clickify(); }); Original Podcast with clickable words https://tinyurl.com/28y74qub Contact: irishlingos@gmail.com Paschal Donohoe resigns from Government, takes up new position. Paschal Donohoe éirithe as an Rialtas, post nua aige. Fine Gael Finance Minister Paschal Donohoe is to step down from his political duties in Ireland after being appointed Managing Director and Chief Information Officer at the World Bank, the second most senior position in that organisation. Tá an tAire Airgeadais Paschal Donohoe ó Fhine Gael le héirí as a chúraimí polaitíochta in Éirinn tar éis dó a bheith ceaptha ina Stiúrthóir Bainistíochta agus ina Phríomhoifigeach Eolais sa Bhanc Domhanda, an dara post is sinsearaí san eagraíocht sin. He has already resigned from his role as Minister for Finance and will step down as a Dáil member later this week. Tá sé éirithe as a chúram mar Aire Airgeadais cheana féin agus éireoidh sé as mar Theachta Dála níos deireanaí an tseachtain seo. It is understood that the Government will appoint a new Minister for Finance this evening. Tuigtear go gceapfaidh an Rialtas Aire Airgeadais nua tráthnóna. Paschal Donohoe is 51 years old and has been an MLA for Dublin Central since 2011. 51 bliain d'aois atá Paschal Donohoe agus tá sé ina Theachta Dála i mBaile Átha Cliath Láir ó 2011. He was appointed Minister of State for European Affairs in 2013 and Minister for Transport, Tourism and Sport the following year. Ceapadh é ina Aire Stáit um Ghnóthaí Eorpacha in 2013 agus ina Aire Iompair, Turasóireachta agus Spóirt an bhliain dar gcionn. He was appointed Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform in 2016 and Minister for Finance in 2017. Ceapadh é ina Aire Caiteachais Phoiblí agus Athchóirithe in 2016 agus ina Aire Airgeadais in 2017. As with its new position, the World Bank's primary responsibility is to provide low-interest loans to developing countries. Mar lena phost nua, is é príomhchúram an Bhainc Dhomhanda iasachtaí ar rátaí ísle úis a chur ar fáil do thíortha atá i mbéal forbartha. RTÉ News and Current Affairs Nuacht agus Cúrsaí Reatha RTÉ

jQuery(document).ready(function(){ cab.clickify(); }); Original Podcast with clickable words https://tinyurl.com/2bmwxa39 Contact: irishlingos@gmail.com 4 years for a man driving under the influence which resulted in death. 4 bliana ar fhear faoi thiomáint a raibh bás mar thoradh air. A 51-year-old man was sentenced to 4 years in prison today for dangerous driving which resulted in the death of another man in County Donegal three years ago. Gearradh téarma príosúnachta 4 bliana inniu ar fhear 51 bliain d'aois as tiomáint chontúirteach a bheith ar bun aige a raibh bás fir eile mar thoradh air i gContae Dhún na nGall trí bliana ó shin. Shaun Duffy was driving on the wrong side of the N13 road in Saran Glebe, on 5th July 2022 and his car collided with a van driven by Mervyn McClure (70). Thiomáin Shaun Duffy ar an taobh mícheart de bhóthar an N13 i nGléib Sháráin, an 5ú Iúil 2022 agus bhuail a charr i gcoinne veain a bhí á thiomáint ag Mervyn McClure (70). McClure later died in hospital as a result of the accident. Bhásaigh McClure san ospidéal ina dhiaidh sin de thoradh na timpiste. Shaun Duffy has also been banned from the road for 10 years. Tá Shaun Duffy curtha den bhóthar freisin ar feadh 10 mbliana. A test conducted by gardaí after the accident showed that he was under the influence of alcohol. I dtástáil a rinne gardaí air i ndiaidh na timpiste léiríodh go raibh sé faoi thionchar an óil. It was not the first time Duffy had been guilty of such a crime, he had been convicted 6 other times before the day of this tragedy. Níorbh é an chéad uair ag Duffy a bheith ciontach ina léithid de choir, ciontaíodh 6 huaire eile é roimh lá na tragóide seo.

jQuery(document).ready(function(){ cab.clickify(); }); Original Podcast with clickable words https://tinyurl.com/2cgsvjuf Contact: irishlingos@gmail.com 88% increase in the number of Airbnb homes in the Gaeltacht since 2019. Ardú 88 faoin gcéad ar líon na dtithe Airbnb sa Ghaeltacht ó 2019. The number of homes available on Airbnb in the Gaeltacht has increased by 88% since 2019, according to new figures published by Conradh na Gaeilge and the tenants' association CATU. Tá ardú 88 faoin gcéad tagtha ó 2019 ar líon na dtithe atá ar fáil ar Airbnb sa Ghaeltacht, de réir figiúirí nua atá foilsithe ag Conradh na Gaeilge agus ag an gcumann tionóntaí CATU. That's a 40% increase more than the national increase. Sin ardú 40 faoin gcéad níos mó ná an t-ardú náisiúnta. In the West Kerry and South Kerry Language Planning Areas, for example, more than 16% of all private properties in both places are homes available on Airbnb, according to the figures. I Limistéir Phleanála Teanga Chiarraí Thiar agus Chiarraí Theas, cuir i gcás, is tithe atá ar fáil ar Airbnb iad níos mó ná 16 faoin gcéad de na háitribh phríobháideacha ar fad sa dá áit, de réir na bhfigiúirí. In the Islands District of Connemara, there were nine homes available on Airbnb in 2019 compared to 27 in 2025, an increase of 200%. I gCeantar na nOileán i gConamara, bhí naoi dteach ar fáil ar Airbnb in 2019 le hais 27 in 2025, ar méadú de 200 faoin gcéad é sin. In Gaoth Dobhair, Rann na Feirste, Anagaire and Lough an Uír in Co Donegal, there were 66 homes available on Airbnb in 2019 compared to 139 this year, an increase of 110%. I nGaoth Dobhair, i Rann na Feirste, in Anagaire agus i Loch an Iúir i gCo Dhún na nGall, bhí 66 teach ar fáil ar Airbnb in 2019 le hais 139 i mbliana, ar méadú de 110 faoin gcéad é. Róisín Ní Chinnéide, Advocacy Manager for Conradh na Gaeilge, said that the figures show that "the Gaeltacht is being strangled by Airbnb's tight grip" and criticized the Government for turning everyone's fundamental right to have a place to live into a commodity. Dúirt Róisín Ní Chinnéide, Bainisteoir Abhcóideachta Chonradh na Gaeilge go léiríonn na figiúirí "go bhfuil an Ghaeltacht á tachtadh ag greim docht Airbnb" agus cháin sí an Rialtas as an mbuncheart atá ag gach duine áit chónaithe a bheith acu a iompú ina earra. Paul D'Eath from CATU called for legislation to be introduced to tackle the problem. D'iarr Paul D'Eath ó CATU reachtaíocht a thabhairt isteach le dul i ngleic leis an bhfadhb. The figures were compiled by the action group Inside Airbnb on behalf of Conradh na Gaeilge and CATU. Is iad lucht an ghrúpa gnímh Inside Airbnb a chuir na figiúirí i dtoll a chéile ar son Chonradh na Gaeilge agus CATU. RTÉ News and Current Affairs Nuacht agus Cúrsaí Reatha RTÉ

jQuery(document).ready(function(){ cab.clickify(); }); Original Podcast with clickable words https://tinyurl.com/23h3hh5p Contact: irishlingos@gmail.com Trump touting a new deal with China. Trump ag maíomh as comhaontú nua leis an tSín. US President Donald Trump said he and Chinese President Xi Jinping reached a significant trade agreement in a meeting the two men held in the South Korean city of Busan. Dúirt Uachtarán na Stát Aontaithe Donald Trump gur tháinig sé féin agus Uachtarán na Síne Xi Jinping ar chomhaontú suntasach trádála i gcruinniú a bhí ag an mbeirt fhear i gcathair Busan sa Chóiré Theas. Trump said he agreed to reduce tariffs on Chinese goods from 47% to 57% in exchange for a promise from Xi that China would resume buying soybean products from the United States, that China would continue to supply rare earth minerals to the international market, and that China would do more to prevent the production of the drug fentanyl in that country. Thug Trump le fios gur shocraigh sé ar tharaifí ar earraí ón tSín a laghdú ó 47 faoin gcéad go 57 faoin gcéad mar mhalairt ar ghealltanas ó Xi go gceannódh an tSín táirgí pónairí soighe ó na Stáit Aontaithe arís, go leanfadh an tSín ag soláthar mianrai tearcithreacha don mhargadh idirnáisiúnta agus go ndéanfadh an tSín tuilleadh le táirgeadh an druga feantainil sa tír sin a chosc. Trump is very proud of that and said it was a "great meeting." Is mór an maíomh ag Trump an méid sin agus dúirt sé gur "cruinniú iontach ar fad" a bhí ann. Xi made a more moderate statement after the meeting, then. Ráiteas níos measartha a rinne Xi i ndiaidh an chruinnithe, más ea. According to him, "representatives of the two countries reached an agreement on the best way to address important economic and trade issues" and "it was now important to finalize the details and implement what had been agreed". Dar leisean gur "tháinig ionadaithe an dá thír ar chomhaontú faoin mbealach is fearr le dul i gceann ceisteanna tábhachtacha eacnamaíochta agus trádála" agus "nár mhór anois bailchríoch a chur ar na mionsonraí agus ar aontaíodh a chur i bhfeidhm". Trump and Xi met at a summit of Pacific leaders and the talks between the two reportedly lasted two hours. Is ag cruinniú mullaigh de cheannairí thíortha an Áigéin Chiúin a tháinig Trump agus Xi le chéile agus tuairiscítear gur dhá uair an chloig a mhair na comhráite idir an bheirt. Above all else, the Americans want to solve the issue of rare earth minerals because China, more than any other country, has the most of them. Thar aon cheist eile, teastaíonn ó na Meiriceánaigh ceist na mianrai tearcithreacha a réiteach ós sa tSín, thar aon tír eile, is mó atá siad le fáil. The discussions between Trump and Xi focused on economic and trade matters and did not appear to discuss contentious political or military issues. Is ar chúrsaí eacnamaíochta agus trádála a díríodh sna comhráite idir Trump agus Xi agus is cosúil nár pléadh ceisteanna achrannacha polaitíochta ná míleata. Trump said that the fate of Taiwan, for example, was not mentioned, and it seems that not a syllable was said about the new military agreement between the United States and South Korea. Dúirt Trump nár luadh a bhfuil i ndán don Téaváin, cuir i gcás, agus dealraíonn sé nach ndúradh oiread agus siolla faoin gcomhaontú nua míleata idir na Stáit Aontaithe agus an Chóiré Theas. In addition, a few minutes before the meeting between the two leaders, Trump announced on his own social media that the United States intended to test nuclear weapons again, for the first time since 1992. Ina cheann sin, cúpla nóiméad roimh an gcruinniú idir an bheirt cheannairí, d'fhógair Trump ar a mheán sóisialta féin go raibh rún ag na Stáit Aontaithe airm núicléacha a phromhadh an athuair, an chéad uair ó 1992. Neither of them said a word about that after the meeting, however. An drae focal faoi sin ní dúirt ceachtar acu i ndiaidh an chruinnithe, áfach. RTÉ News and Current Affairs

jQuery(document).ready(function(){ cab.clickify(); }); Original Podcast with clickable words https://tinyurl.com/2baut57r Contact: irishlingos@gmail.com Presidential candidates lobbying in various locations. Iarrthóirí Uachtaránachta ag stocaireacht in áiteanna éagsúla. The two candidates in the Presidential election are campaigning in different regions of the country today – half and half in Leach-Quinn and half in Leach- Mogha – with only two days left before the big day itself. Tá an bheirt iarrthóirí sa toghchán Uachtaránachta ag stocaireacht i réigiúin éagsúla sa tír inniu – idir Leath Chuinn agus Leath Mhogha leath ar leath – agus gan ach dhá lá fanta roimh an lá mór féin. Among those in Munster is Fine Gael candidate Heather Humphreys, between Cork and Co Clare. I measc na ndaoine i gCúige Mumhan atá iarrthóir Fhine Gael Heather Humphreys, idir Corcaigh agus Co an Chláir. She was first in Cork city this morning, then in Ballycastle, and from there she will go to Enniscray. I gcathair Chorcaí a bhí sí ar dtús ar maidin, i mBaile Mhisteála ina dhiaidh sin, agus rachaidh sí as sin go hInis an Chláir. Left-wing candidate Catherine Connolly is in Ulster, going out through the people in Co. Monaghan and Co. Cavan. Is in Ultaibh atá iarrthóir na heite clé Catherine Connolly agus í ag dul amach trí na daoine i gCo Mhuineacháin agus i gCo an Chabháin. She will visit Athlone in County Westmeath this afternoon and Mullingar afterwards. Tabharfaidh sí sciuird ar Bhaile Átha Luain i gCo na hIarmhí tráthnóna agus ar an Muileann gCearr ina dhiaidh sin. The pair clashed in the final election debate which aired on RTÉ television last night. Chuaigh an dís in árach a chéile i ndíospóireacht dheireanach an toghcháin a bhí ar siúl ar theilifís RTÉ aréir. Heather Humphreys was the most controversial of them all during the debate, and if the polls are true, she is far behind Catherine Connolly. Ba í Heather Humphreys ba spairní díobh le linn na díospóireachta arae, más fíor do na pobalbhreitheanna, tá sí i bhfad chun deiridh ar Catherine Connolly. According to political analysts, then, while it cannot be said that neither of them was without a sense of urgency, neither of them was without a sense of urgency. Dar leis na hanailísithe polaitíochta, más ea, cé nach bhféadfadí a rá nár bhain béim chreabhair do cheachtar acu nár buaileadh an bhrathbhéim ar cheachtar acu. RTÉ News and Current Affairs Nuacht agus Cúrsaí Reatha RTÉ

jQuery(document).ready(function(){ cab.clickify(); }); Original Podcast with clickable words https://tinyurl.com/2bj33wjx Contact: irishlingos@gmail.com Rafah crossing in Gaza to reopen soon. Bealach Rafah i Gaza le hathoscailt gan mhoill. It is hoped that the Rafah crossing in the Gaza Strip will be open again by next Sunday. Tá súil go mbeidh bealach Rafah i Stráice Gaza oscailte arís faoin Domhnach seo chugainn. The Israeli Foreign Minister announced this this morning. Aire Gnóthaí Eachtracha Iosrael a thug an méid sin le fios ar maidin inniu. For the first time in 2 years, Palestinians will have the right to enter and leave Gaza. Den chéad uair le 2 bhliain beidh sé de cheart ag Pailistínigh teacht agus imeacht as Gaza. However, it is uncertain whether food will be allowed in through that route on a regular basis, with hundreds of trucks now on standby to provide humanitarian aid to the people of the strip. Níltear cinnte áfach an gceadófar bia isteach tríd an bhealach sin ar bhonn rialta agus na céadta leoraithe faoi réir anois le cúnamh daonchabhrach a chur ar fáil do phobal an stráice. It is said that there is now an urgent need for a large amount of assistance in light of what the community has suffered there since October 2023. Deirtear go bhfuil géarghá anois le líon ard cúnaimh i bhfianaise an méid atá fulaingte ag an bpobal ansin ó Dheireadh Fómhair 2023. Israel remains deeply dissatisfied with what it says is the slowness of Hamas militants in returning the bodies of the hostages they were holding. Tá míshástacht mhór ar Iosrael i gcónaí maidir leis an mhoilleadóireacht a deir sé atá ar threallchogaithe Hamas i dtaca le coirp na ngialla a bhí á gcoinneáil acu a thabhairt ar ais. Hamas says that some of these bodies are heavily covered in debris and that special equipment is required to access them, not to mention additional time. Deir Hamas go bhfuil roinnt de na coirp sin faoi bhrat trom smionagair agus go bhfuil trealamh speisialta ag teastáil le teacht orthu gan trácht ar bhreis ama. It is estimated that 19 bodies have not yet been returned to their families in Israel. Áirítear go bhfuil 19 corp le teaghlaigh in Iosrael nach bhfuil tugtha ar ais dóibh go fóill. Inbar Hayman (27) received a state funeral in Israel this morning. Fuair Inbar Hayman (27) sochraid stáit in Iosrael ar maidin inniu. She was the last female body held by Hamas, a woman who was kidnapped during the Nova festival in October 2023 and killed sometime later. B'ise an corp mná deiridh a bhí coinnithe ag Hamas, bean a fuadaíodh le linn fhéile Nova i nDeireadh Fómhair 2023 agus a maraíodh am éigin ina dhiaidh sin. Some reports say that the Israeli military campaign is continuing despite a ceasefire being declared in Gaza. Deir tuairiscí áirithe go bhfuil feachtas míleata Iosrael ag leanacht ar aghaidh i gcónaí ainneoin sos comhraic a bheith fógraithe i Gaza. Hamas claims that up to 20 people have been killed there in the past week. Maíonn Hamas go bhfuil suas le 20 duine maraithe ansin le seachtain.

jQuery(document).ready(function(){ cab.clickify(); }); Original Podcast with clickable words https://tinyurl.com/23eqpol6 Contact: irishlingos@gmail.com A young man who took part in riots has been sentenced to prison. Príosún gearrtha ar fhear óg a ghlac páirt i gcíréibeacha. In Dublin Circuit Criminal Court, a young man who pleaded guilty to taking part in anti-immigration riots in the city last year and setting fire to a Luas tram was sentenced to four years in prison – the latter suspended. I gCúirt Chuarda Choiriúil Bhaile Átha Cliath, gearradh ceithre bliana príosúin – an ceann deireanach ar fionraí – ar fhear óg a phléadáil ciontach i bpáirt a ghlacadh i gcíréibeacha in aghaidh na hinimirce sa chathair arú anuraidh agus i dtram Luas a chur trí thine. That's Evan Moore, a 20-year-old apprentice electrician, from Grangemore Road in Donaghmede in north Dublin. Sin é Evan Moore, leictreoir faoi oiliúint 20 bliain d'aois, as Bóthar na Gráinsí Móire i nDomhnach Míde i dtuaisceart Bhaile Átha Cliath. A Garda told the court that Evan Moore had been incited to violence on social media and had ignored his mother's pleas not to enter the city centre on the night of November 23, 2023. Dúirt Garda sa chúirt gur gríosaíodh chun foréigin ar na meáin shóisialta Evan Moore agus gur thug sé neamhaird ar achainí a mháthar gan dul isteach i lár na cathrach oíche an 23 Samhain 2023. It was said that he broke a window on the tram and dragged a bin that was already on fire into it. Dúradh gur bhris sé fuinneog ar an tram agus gur tharraing sé isteach ann araid a bhí trí lasadh cheana. Luas services had to be suspended for twenty-four hours due to the arson and it was estimated that €5 million worth of damage was caused to the tram. B'éigean seirbhísí Luas a chur ar fionraí ar feadh ceithre huaire is fiche mar gheall ar an loscadh agus áiríodh go ndearnadh luach €5 mhilliún de dhamáiste don tram, a dúradh. It was not until six months later that Gardaí arrested Evan Moore while taking part in an extreme right-wing protest. Ní go dtí sé mhí ina dhiaidh sin a ghabh na Gardaí Evan Moore agus é ag glacadh páirt in agóid de chuid na heite deise antoiscí. The young man had never been convicted before and was said to have deeply regretted what he had done. Níor ciontaíodh an fear óg riamh cheana agus dúradh go raibh an- aiféala go deo air as a ndearna sé. It was also revealed that he had completed an anti-racism course. Tugadh le fios freisin go raibh cúrsa frithchiníochais déanta aige. Judge Orla Crowe said she took all of that into account when considering the sentence she would impose on the offender. Dúirt an Breitheamh Orla Crowe gur chuir sí é sin ar fad san áireamh nuair a bhí sí ag déanamh a machnamh ar an bpianbhreith a ghearrfadh sí ar an gciontach. RTÉ News and Current Affairs Nuacht agus Cúrsaí Reatha RTÉ

jQuery(document).ready(function(){ cab.clickify(); }); Original Podcast with clickable words https://tinyurl.com/24vspuan Contact: irishlingos@gmail.com Concerns about Loyalist violence over bilingual signage. Imní faoi fhoréigean Dilseoirí faoi chomharthaíocht dátheangach. Conradh na Gaeilge says the threats made by Loyalist paramilitaries at the weekend that Belfast City Council property will be destroyed if it has bilingual signage are a cause for great concern. Deir Conradh na Gaeilge gur cúis mhór imní iad na bagairtí a rinne paraimíleataigh Dílseora ag an deireadh seachtaine go scriosfar maoin de chuid Chomhairle Chathair Bhéal Feirste má bhíonn comharthaíocht dátheangach orthu. In an open letter from Conradh na Gaeilge and the Leaders of the Parties and the City Council, the League says that it is a cause for concern for everyone who supports the Irish language and equality in general. I litir oscailte ó Chonradh na Gaeilge agus ó Cheannairí na bPáirtithe agus ó Chomhairle na Cathrach deir an Conradh gur cúis imní é do gach duine a thacaíonn leis an Ghaeilge agus leis an chomhionannas trí chéile. The threat has been condemned by Ulster Unionist leader Mike Nesbitt. Tá an bhagairt cáinte ag ceannaire Aondachtóirí Uladh, Mike Nesbitt. A draft Irish language policy agreed by the Council would mean that Irish and English would be more prominent and side by side on all Council publications and property. Chiallaódh dréachtpholasaí Gaeilge atá aontaithe ag an Chomhairle go mbeadh an Ghaeilge agus an Béarla níos feiceálaí agus iad le taobh a chéile ar gach foilseachán agus maoin de chuid na Comhairle. But since the policy was adopted last Wednesday the UDA and UVF have threatened to destroy any property bearing the signage. Ach ó glacadh leis an pholasaí Dé Céadaoin seo caite tá an UDA agus UVF tar éis bagairt go scriosfaidh siad maoin ar bith a mbeidh an chomharthaíocht orthu. These paramilitary organisations told the Sunday Life newspaper that they would burn down Council vehicles and buildings if Irish was visible on them. Dúirt na heagrais paramíleatacha sin le nuachtán an Sunday Life go lasfadh siad feithiclí agus foirgnimh de chuid na Comhairle dá mbeadh an Ghaeilge le feiceáil orthu. Conradh na Gaeilge called on party leaders in Stormont to condemn the threat. D'iarr Conradh na Gaeilge ar cheannairí na bpáirtithe i Stormont an bhagairt a cháineadh. Irish Language Commissioner The new Irish Language Commissioner will be responsible for implementing the Identity and Language Act. Coimisinéir na Gaeilge Beidh dualgas ar an Choimisinéir úr Gaeilge an tAcht Féiniúlachta agus Teanga a chur i bhfeidhm. Yesterday on the X platform, the person nominated but not appointed to that position, Pól Deeds, said that the threat from the UDA and UVF is a result of the promotion of bigotry in the media - in particular, he said, the BBC. Inné ar an ardán X dúirt an té atá ainmnithe ach nach bhfuil ceaptha don phost sin, Pól Deeds, gur toradh í an bhagairt ón UDA agus UVF ar chur chun cinn na biogóideachta sna meáin - go háirithe a dúirt sé an BBC. Paul Deeds said the Executive Office in Stormont had failed to protect its own policy - and UK law - and was failing in its duty of care to the new Commissioner. Dúirt Pól Deeds gur theip ar Oifig an Fheidhmeannais i Stormont a bpolasaí féin - agus dlí na Ríochta Aontaithe - a chosaint agus go bhfuil siad ag teip ina ndualgas cúraim don Choimisinéir úr. The threats from Loyalists have only been condemned by one Unionist party, the Ulster Unionists (UUP). Níl na bagairtí ó Dhílseoirí cáinte ach ag pairtí Aondachtach amháin, Aondachtóirí Uladh an UUP. Their leader Mike Nesbitt said that the Irish language signage needs to be discussed further, and he said that any threat to Council workers should be withdrawn. Dúirt a gceannaire Mike Nesbitt go gcaithfear an chomharthaíocht i nGaeilge a phlé tuilleadh, agus dúirt sé gur cheart bagairt ar bith ar oibrithe na Comhairl...

jQuery(document).ready(function(){ cab.clickify(); }); Original Podcast with clickable words https://tinyurl.com/26ycdstu Contact: irishlingos@gmail.com Storm Amy: 184,000 homes without electrical power. Stoirm Amy: 184,000 áitreabh gan cumhacht leictreach. A man was seriously injured in an accident in Co. Donegal today which was caused by severe weather, Gardaí say. Gortaíodh fear go dona i dtimpiste i gCo Dhún na nGall inniu arbh í an aimsir gharbh ba shiocair leis, a deir na Gardaí. The accident happened in Letterkenny at around 4.15pm. Tharla an tionóisc i Leitir Ceanainn ag thart ar 4.15 tráthnóna. As Storm Amy makes its way across the country, it is reported that approximately 184,000 properties are currently without electrical power. Agus Stoirm Amy ag déanamh a díchill ar fud na tíre, tuairiscítear go bhfuil thart ar 184,000 áitreabh gan cumhacht leictreach faoi láthair. Meteorologists have announced seven different weather warnings – from yellow to red – in various parts of the country. Tá seacht bhfoláireamh éagsúla aimsire fógartha ag na meitéareolaithe – ó bhuí go dearg – in áiteanna éagsúla sa tír. The most serious of these is the red sea warning that has been issued between 2pm and 8pm this evening from Head of Limerick in Co Clare to Head of Roscommon in Co Donegal to Benmore in Co Antrim. Is tromchúisí dar ndóigh an foláireamh dearg mara atá fógartha idir 2 a chlog agus 8 a chlog tráthnóna inniu ó Cheann Léime i gCo an Chláir go Ceann Ros Eoghain i gCo Dhún na nGall go dtí an Bhinn Mhór i gCo Aontroma. In fact, the weather is most severe along the coastline between Galway and Donegal, with winds reaching up to 120 kilometres per hour, although almost every part of the country has received its share of the storm. Go deimhin, is feadh an imeallbhoird idir Gaillimh agus Dún na nGall is gairbhe atá an aimsir, mar a bhfuil suas le 120 ciliméadar san uair faoin ngaoth, siúd is go bhfuil mórán gach áit sa tíre tar éis a cion féin den tuargaint a fháil. Met Éireann says the wind gusts are above average and are likely to cause power outages in more places, down trees and cause sea waves to hit shores. Deir Met Éireann go bhfuil neart os meán sa stangadh gaoithe agus gur dóichí go ngearrfar an chumhacht i dtuilleadh áiteanna, go leagfar crainn agus go dtonnfaidh an fharraige isteach ar chladaí dá bhíthin. Since the timely announcement, people in the most remote places have been protecting themselves since yesterday against what is inevitable. Ó tugadh fógra go tráthúil, tá daoine in áiteanna is sceirdiúla á ndíonadh féin ó inné ar an rud nach bhfuil inseachanta. For example, sandbags have been pressed tightly against doorways in Donegal and Sligo to prevent water from leaking into homes and shops, especially in areas where the public has bought in. Cuir i gcás, tá málaí gainimh brúite isteach go dlúth le doirse i nDún na nGall agus i Sligeach ar fhaitíos go sceithfeadh uisce isteach i dtithe agus i siopaí, go háirithe i gceantair a bhfuil ciall cheannaithe ag an bpobal. People are also being urged to use common sense and stay home rather than risking danger and defying the quarantine without good reason. Táthar ag achainí ar dhaoine gnáthchiall a bheith acu freisin agus fanacht sa bhaile seachas dul i nguais agus dúshlán na síne a thabhairt gan údar maith. People must be alert to downed power lines, says the Electricity Supply Board, and not touch or touch them. Ní mór do dhaoine a bheith san airdeall ar shreanga cumhachta atá tite, a deir Bord Soláthair an Leictreachais, agus gan drannadh leo ná lámh a leagan orthu. The company says its technicians are trained and on standby to carry out repair work as soon as possible, if necessary. Deir an comhlacht go bhfuil a gcuid teicneoirí innealta agus ar fuireachas le hobair dheisiúcháin a dhéanamh a thúisce is féidir, más gá. RTÉ News and Current Affairs Nuacht agus Cúrsaí Reatha RTÉ

jQuery(document).ready(function(){ cab.clickify(); }); Original Podcast with clickable words https://tinyurl.com/29jesk8l Contact: irishlingos@gmail.com 16,353 homeless people in August. 16,353 duine gan dídean i mí Lúnasa. The latest figures from the Department of Housing show that 16,353 people were homeless or living in emergency accommodation in the State last month. Léiríonn na figiúirí is deireanaí ón Roinn Tithíochta go raibh 16,353 duine gan dídean nó ag cur fúthu i lóistín éigeandála sa Stát an mhí seo caite. This is an increase of 295 on the number of people who were homeless in July. Méadú de 295 is ea é sin ar an líon daoine a bhí gan dídean i mí Iúil. The number of children living in emergency accommodation in August included 5,145, the highest number ever recorded. Áírítear 5,145 leanbh ar na daoine a bhí ina gcónaí i lóistín éigeandála i mí Lúnasa, an líon is mó leanaí a taifeadadh riamh. Commenting on the new figures, Seán Moynihan from the elderly charity Alone said that the number of people over 65 who rented a home had increased by 83% between the last two censuses. Ag trácht dó ar na figiúirí nua, dúirt Seán Moynihan ón gcarthanas do dhaoine aosta Alone gur tháinig méadú de 83 faoin gcéad idir an dá dhaonáireamh dheireanacha ar an líon daoine os cionn 65 bliain d'aois a raibh áras cónaithe ar cíos acu. The situation must have gotten worse, he said, since there are so many people in their fifties and forties who currently don't have a home of their own. Ní foláir nó gur i ndonas a rachas an scéal, arsa sé, ó tá an oiread sin daoine atá sna caogaidí agus sna daichidí faoi láthair nach bhfuil áras cónaithe dá gcuid féin acu. According to the Munster, 25% of the houses to be built by the State should be made available for older people to get ahead of the problem. Dar leis an Muimhneachánach gur cheart 25 faoin gcéad de na tithe atá le tógáil ag an Stát a chur ar fáil do dhaoine aosta le teacht roimh an bhfadhb. He was talking about the commitment in the Government Programme to build over 300,000 homes between now and the end of 2030. Ag caint a bhí sé ar an ngealltanas atá i gClár an Rialtais barr ar 300,000 áras cónaithe a thógáil as seo go deireadh 2030. RTÉ News and Current Affairs Nuacht agus Cúrsaí Reatha RTÉ

jQuery(document).ready(function(){ cab.clickify(); }); Original Podcast with clickable words https://tinyurl.com/277epztj Contact: irishlingos@gmail.com Presidential Election: three candidates on the Atlantic path. Toghchán Uachtaránachta: triúr iarrthóirí ar shlí an Atlantaigh. The three candidates in the Presidential election are canvassing in Co. Donegal and Co. Kerry today. Ta an triúr iarrthóirí sa toghchán Uachtaránachta ag canbhasáil i gCo Dhún na nGall agus i gCo Chiarraí inniu. Left-wing candidate Catherine Connolly will be in Donegal town, Killybegs, Clifden and Ardara. Iarrthóir na heite clé Catherine Connolly, beidh sí i mbaile Dhún na nGall, sna Cealla Beaga, sa Chlochán Liath agus in Ard an Rátha. Since Sinn Féin is supporting Catherine Connolly, that party's finance spokesman, Pearse Doherty from Gaoth Dobhair, is canvassing alongside her today. Ó tá Sinn Féin ag tacú le Catherine Connolly, tá urlabhraí airgeadais an pháirtí sin, Pearse Doherty as Gaoth Dobhair, ag canbhasáil in éindí léi inniu. Kerry is home to both Fine Gael candidate Heather Humphreys and Fianna Fáil candidate Jim Gavin. I gCiarraí atá iarrthóir Fhine Gael Heather Humphreys agus iarrthóir Fhianna Fáil Jim Gavin araon. They may run into each other as they are both due to go to the Listowel Races this afternoon. D'fhéadfadh sé go gcasfaí ar a chéile iad ó tá an bheirt acu le dul chuig Rásaí Lios Tuathail tráthnóna. The two were interviewed from various locations on Radio Kerry this morning. Cuireadh an bheirt faoi agallamh ó áiteanna éagsúla ar Radio Kerry ar maidin. Jim Gavin is in Tralee, where he will be giving a tour of the Tralee Bay Wetland Ecopark. Tá Jim Gavin i dTrá Lí, áit a dtabharfaidh sé sciuird ar Éiceapháirc Bhogach Bhá Thrá Lí. Heather Humphreys went on a short cart ride in Killarney, she is due to be in Muckross House soon and will also visit the Tralee Women's Hut. Chuaigh Heather Humphreys ar thuras gairid i gcairt i gCill Airne, tá sí le bheith i dTeach Mhucrois ar ball agus tabharfaidh sí cuairt freisin ar Bhothán Ban Thrá Lí. RTÉ News and Current Affairs Nuacht agus Cúrsaí Reatha RTÉ

jQuery(document).ready(function(){ cab.clickify(); }); Original Podcast with clickable words https://tinyurl.com/284tlwcd Contact: irishlingos@gmail.com Thousands participate today in a major protest, RIGHTS, for the language. Na mílte páirteach inniu i mór-agóid, CEARTA, ar son na teanga. Thousands took part today in a major national protest on behalf of the Irish language and the Gaeltacht. Ghlac na mílte páirt inniu i mór-agóid náisiunta ar son na Gaeilge agus na Gaeltachta. The protest was called RIGHTS, and people came from all over the country to attend. CEARTA ab ainm don agóid, agus tháinig daoine ó gach cearn den tír le freastal uirthi. The crowds marched from Parnell Square to Leinster House. Mhairseáil na sluaite ó Chearnóg Parnell go dtí Teach Laighean. Irish and Gaeltacht groups participated, along with schools, third level students, co-operative teachers, musicians and families. Bhí grúpaí Gaeilge agus Gaeltachta páirteach ann, mar aon le scoileanna, mic léinn triú leibhéil, múinteoirí comharchumainn, ceoltóirí agus teaghlaigh. CEARTA was the first such national protest on behalf of the Irish language and the Gaeltacht in over a decade. Bhí CEARTA ar an gcéad agóid náisiúnta dá leithéid ar son na Gaeilge agus na Gaeltachta le breis agus deich mbliana anuas. Among their demands, they are seeking fair funding, the right to live in the Gaeltacht, reform of the education system, and the fulfillment of long-promised language rights, Conradh na Gaeilge said today. I measc na n- éileamh atá acu, tá siad ag lorg maoiniú cothrom, an ceart chun cónaí sa Ghaeltacht, athchóiriú ar an gcóras oideachais, agus comhlíonadh cearta teanga a gealladh le fada, a dúirt Conradh na Gaeilge inniu. In a statement issued by the Department of Rural, Community and Gaeltacht Development today, Minister Dara Calleary said that he is currently focusing on securing more funding for the language and the Gaeltacht in Budget 2026. I ráiteas a chuir an Roinn Forbartha Tuaithe 's Pobail agus Gaeltachta ar fáil inniu, dúirt an tAire Dara Calleary go bhfuil sé ag díriú faoi láthair ar níos mó maoinithe a fháil don teanga agus don Ghaeltacht i mBuiséad 2026. He also indicated that investment in the language has increased over the past five years. Thug sé le fios freisin go bhfuil ardú tagtha ar infheistíocht sa teanga le cúig bliana anuas. "It's true that we have more funding now." "Tá sé fíor go bhfuil nios mó maoinithe againn anois. "But that is true for every sector," said Julian de Spáinn, Secretary General of Conradh na Gaeilge at the protest today. Ach tá an méid sin fíor i gcás gach earnála" a dúirt Julian de Spáinn, Ard-Rúnaí Chonradh na Gaeilge ag an agóid inniu. "It's easy to have 'more' when the starting point is so low at first." "Tá sé furasta ‘níos mó' a bheith agat nuair atá an túsphointe chomh híseal ar dtús. The government spends only 0.1% of state expenditure on Irish and Gaeltacht matters. Ní chaitheann an rialtas ach 0.1 faoin gcéad de chaiteachas an stáit ar chúrsaí Gaeilge agus Gaeltachta. "That is scandalous and there is no other option now than to radically increase funding." Tá sé sin scanallach agus agus níl aon rogha eile anois seachas ardú radacach a dhéanamh ar an maoiniú." The protest also focused on language rights in the north. Díríodh freisin le linn na hagóide ar chearta teanga ó thuaidh. An Dream Dearg is a pressure group for the language in Northern Ireland. Is brúghrúpa ar son na teanga i dTuaisceart Éireann é An Dream Dearg. A spokesman for that group, Ciarán Mac Giolla Bhéin - who is also the current President of Conradh na Gaeilge - said that despite the Identity and Language Act being in force in the north for the past few years, the rights promised therein have been slow to come, with the DUP constantly obstructing any progress in that area, he said. Dúirt urlabhraí de chuid an ghrúpa sin, Ciarán Mac Giolla Bhéin - atá ina Uachtarán ar Chonradh na Gaeilge faoi láthair f...

jQuery(document).ready(function(){ cab.clickify(); }); Original Podcast with clickable words https://tinyurl.com/ymdr2wny Contact: irishlingos@gmail.com The Ploughing Competition begins in Co. Offaly. Tús leis an gComórtas Treabhdóireachta i gCo Uíbh Fhailí. The National Ploughing Championships began today in Scraggan in Co Offaly, the largest open-air gathering in Europe which is expected to be attended by 300,000 people over the next three days. Cuireadh tús inniu leis an gComórtas Náisiúnta Treabhdóireachta sa Screagán i gCo Uíbh Fhailí, an tóstal faoin aer is mó san Eoraip a meastar go bhfreastalóidh 300,000 duine air as seo go ceann trí lá. The event was officially opened by the President of Ireland, Michael D Higgins, the last time he will hold that position as he is due to step down from office this year. Is é Uachtarán na hÉireann Michael D Higgins a chuir tús oifigiúil leis an ócáid, an uair dheiridh a bheas an cúram sin air agus é le n-éirí as oifig i mbliana. Competitions, exhibitions, selling, buying, aerating and baccarat will take place at the major fair in the midlands that farmers flock to every year. Comórtais, taispeántais, díol, ceannach, aeraíocht agus bachram a bheas ar siúl ag an móraonach i lár tíre a mbíonn feirmeoirí ag triall air ina dtáinte gach uile bhliain. In addition to the fun, there will also be the seriousness and the future of the agricultural sector to be sifted by farmers and their representatives in light of the latest international trade agreements, in particular the Mercosur agreement. Chomh maith leis an súgradh, beidh an dáiríre ann freisin agus a bhfuil i ndán don earnáil talmhaíochta le criathrú ag feirmeoirí agus a n- ionadaithe i bhfianaise na socruithe trádála idirnáisiúnta is deireanaí, go háirithe comhaontú Mercosur. Farmers believe that this agreement could be very damaging to the beef and poultry sector in Ireland. Creideann feirmeoirí go bhféadfadh an comhaontú sin an-dochar a dhéanamh don earnáil mairteola agus éineola in Éirinn. Farmers are also concerned that their specific arrangement regarding the amount of nitrates they apply to their land will soon be ended. Tá imní ar fheirmeoirí freisin go gcuirfear deireadh go luath leis an socrú faoi leith atá acu maidir leis an méid níotráití a chuireann siad ar a gcuid talaimh. The European Union is asking them to apply less nitrates to the land in the future for environmental reasons, but the farmers claim that the proposed reduction is not necessary given the high water quality in this country. Tá an tAontas Eorpach ag iarraidh orthu níos lú níotráití a chur ar an talamh feasta de ghrá an chomhshaoil, ach maíonn na feirmeoirí nach bhfuil gá leis an laghdú atá molta agus caighdeán an uisce sa tír seo chomh hard anois. In addition to President Higgins, the people who are seeking to replace him will also be attending the fair in Scregán at various times this week. Chomh maith leis an Uachtarán Higgins, na daoine atá ag iarraidh teacht ina áit, tabharfaidh siad féin sciuird ar an aonach sa Screagán ag tráthanna éagsúla an tseachtain seo. RTÉ News and Current Affairs Nuacht agus Cúrsaí Reatha RTÉ

jQuery(document).ready(function(){ cab.clickify(); }); Original Podcast with clickable words https://tinyurl.com/2dj5v2tk Contact: irishlingos@gmail.com Qatari Prime Minister to meet with senior American officials. Príomhaire Chatar le bualadh le hoifigigh shinsearacha Mheiriceá. The Qatari prime minister is to meet with senior American officials. Tá príomhaire Chatar le bualadh le hoifigigh shinsearacha Mheiriceá. It is expected that the Israeli attack on Hamas leaders in Doha will be discussed during the meeting. Tá súil go bpléifear ionsaí Iosrael ar cheannairí Hamas in Doha le linn an chruinnithe. It is also hoped that they will talk to each other about the progress that has been made in achieving a ceasefire. Tá súil freisin go labhróidh siad lena chéile faoin dul chun cinn atá déanta ó thaobh sos cogaidh a bhaint amach. Following the meeting with senior officials, Qatari Prime Minister Sheikh Mohammed bin Abdulrahman al-Thani will meet with US Secretary of State Marco Rubio at the White House in Washington, the US State Department confirmed today. Tar éis an chruinnithe leis na hoifigigh shinsearacha, buailfidh Príomhaire Chatar, an Síc Mohammed bin Abdulrahman al- Thani, le Stát-Rúnaí Mheiriceá, Marco Rubio, sa Teach Bán in Washington, a dheimhnigh an Roinn Stáit i Meiriceá inniu. It was also reported in the media today that the Qatari Prime Minister is expected to meet with US President Donald Trump, Vice President Vance and the US special envoy, Steve Witkoff. Tuairiscíodh sna meáin inniu freisin go bhfuiltear ag súil go mbualfaidh Príomhaire Chatar le hUachtarán Mheiriceá, Donald Trump, le Leas-Uachtarán Vance agus le toscaire speisialta na Stát Aontaithe, Steve Witkoff, chomh maith. Israel's attack on Qatar was sharply criticized around the world. Rinneadh cáineadh géar ar fud an domhain ar ionsaí Iosrael ar Chatar. Some world leaders and the United Nations said it was a violation of international law and that the raid risks escalating the conflict in the region. Dúirt ceannairí domhanda áirithe agus na Náisiúin Aontaithe gur sárú ar an dlí idirnáisiúnta a bhí ann agus go bhfuil an baol ann go n-éireoidh an t-aighneas sa réigiún níos measa i bhfianaise an ruathair. The United Nations Security Council published a statement yesterday condemning the attack. D'fhoilsigh Comhairle Slándála na Náisiún Aontaithe ráiteas inné ar cáineadh an t-ionsaí. It was a statement signed by all members of the Security Council, including the United States. Ba ráiteas é a shínigh na baill ar fad den Chomhairle Slándála, na Stáit Aontaithe ina measc. America and Israel are allies. Is comhghuaillithe iad Meiriceá agus Iosrael. Israel was not mentioned in the statement, however. Níor luadh Iosrael sa ráiteas, áfach. President Trump says Qatar and America are also allies. Deir Uachtarán Trump gur comhghuaillithe iad Catar agus Meiriceá freisin.

jQuery(document).ready(function(){ cab.clickify(); }); Original Podcast with clickable words https://tinyurl.com/2doh2trn Contact: irishlingos@gmail.com 16 people killed in train crash in Lisbon. 16 duine maraithe i dtubaiste traenach i Liospóin. At least sixteen people were killed when a cable car train derailed in the Portuguese capital, Lisbon, yesterday evening. Maraíodh sé dhuine dhéag ar a laghad nuair a d'imigh traein cháblach de na ráillí i bpríomhchathair na Portaingéile, Liospóin, tráthnóna inné. 21 other people were injured in the disaster. Gortaíodh 21 duine eile sa tubaiste. There were foreigners among the dead but it is not yet clear where they came from. Bhí eachtrannaigh i measc na marbh ach ní sé ráite fós cárbh as iad. Lisbon is a hilly city and tourists mostly use the light rail to explore its steeper areas. Cathair chnocach is ea Liospóin agus is turasóirí is mó a bhaineann leas as an iarnród sráide le sciuird a thabhairt ar na ceantair is crochta inti. The train was coming down from the top when it lost control and continued at full speed until it hit a building turning into the street. Ag teacht anuas ón ard a bhí an traein nuair a d'imigh sí ó smacht agus lean ar aghaidh faoin lán siúil nó gur bhuail sí foirgneamh ag casadh sa tsráid. It is believed that the train went out of control when the cable it was pulling broke. Meastar gur imigh an traein ó smacht nuair a bhris an cábla a bhí á tarraingt. The Portuguese Government has declared a national day of mourning in honour of the dead today. Tá lá náisiúnta dóbróin in ómós do na mairbh fógartha inniu ag Rialtas na Portaingéile. Tánaiste Simon Harris said that the Irish Embassy in Lisbon is ready to provide assistance if needed. Dúirt an Tánaiste Simon Harris go bhfuil Ambasáid na hÉireann i Liospóin réidh le cabhair a thabairt má theastaíonn sí. RTÉ News and Current Affairs Nuacht agus Cúrsaí Reatha RTÉ

jQuery(document).ready(function(){ cab.clickify(); }); Original Podcast with clickable words https://tinyurl.com/22k3qlm9 Contact: irishlingos@gmail.com Thousands of Palestinian children living in classrooms. Na mílte páiste Palaistíneach ina gcónaí i seomraí ranga. Israeli military forces reportedly killed at least 24 Palestinians, including children, in various locations in Gaza today. Tuairiscítear gur mharaigh fórsaí míleata Iosrael 24 Palaistíneach ar a laghad, páistí ina measc, in áiteanna éagsúla in Gaza inniu. Their base was killed in Gaza City, where the Israelis are pushing forward with the intention of expelling the entire population from the area. Ba i gCathair Gaza a maraíodh a mbunáite, mar a bhfuil na hIosraelaigh ag brú chun cinn agus rún acu an pobal ar fad a dhíbirt as an áit. It seems that the majority of the population will have no choice but to submit to the force, leave their homes, hit the road and seek refuge in the distance. Is cosúil nach mbeidh aon rogha ag formhór an phobail ach géilleadh don fhorneart, a mbailte a fhágáil, bóthar a bhualadh agus dídean a lorg i gcéin. However, some people are sick and tired of the constant distraction and are taking a stand. Mar sin féin, tá roinnt daoine tinn tuirseach den seachrán síoraí agus tá siad ag cur cos i dtaca. They are not willing to move again, they say, no matter what kind of victimization they are subjected to. Níl siad sásta bogadh arís eile, a deir siad, is cuma cén sórt íospartha a thabharfar dóibh. Instead of learning, as is customary for schoolchildren around the world at this time of year, over a thousand Palestinian children are living by day and sleeping by night in classrooms in Gaza, their only shelter from the missiles. Seachas a bheith ag foghlaim, mar is dual do dhaltaí scoile ar fud an domhain an tráth seo bliana, tá breis agus na mílte páiste Palaistíneach ina gcónaí de ló agus ina gcodladh d'oíche i seomraí ranga in Gaza, an t-aon díon atá acu ar na diúracáin. For the third year in a row, these children's education has been disrupted while every aspect of life in Gaza is going from bad to worse. Den tríú bliain as a chéile, tá oideachas na bpáistí sin curtha ar ceal agus gach gné den saol in Gaza ag dul ó mhaoil go mullach. It's not all brutality and compassionate people from outside are doing their best to come to the aid of the people of Gaza. Ní brúidiúlacht ar fad é agus tá daoine trócaireacha ón taobh amuigh ag déanamh a seacht ndícheall teacht i gcabhair ar mhuintir Ghaza. A humanitarian flotilla, twenty boats filled to the brim with relief supplies, are on their way to Gaza and they should be. Loingeas daonnúil, dhá scór bád lán go boimbéal le soláthairti fóirithinte, tá siad ar a mbealach go Gaza agus an chóir leo. But what are the chances of them reaching port, especially when such capable vessels as these have already been defeated by the Israelis! RTÉ News and Current Affairs Ach cén seans go mbainfidh siad port amach, go háirithe agus soithí fónta mar iad ruaigthe cheana ag na Iosraelaigh! Nuacht agus Cúrsaí Reatha RTÉ

jQuery(document).ready(function(){ cab.clickify(); }); Original Podcast with clickable words https://tinyurl.com/22w8p9ut Contact: irishlingos@gmail.com Luas services suspended due to fire. Seirbhísí Luas ar fionraí de bharr dóiteáin. Luas services between Connolly Station and Ring Depot in Dublin were suspended this morning due to a fire that damaged a bridge on the Red Line. Cuireadh ar fionraí ar maidin inniu seirbhísí Luas idir Stáisiún Uí Chonghaile agus Iosta na Rinne i mBaile Átha Cliath mar gheall ar dhóiteán a rinne damáiste do dhroichead ar an Líne Dhearg. The fire, which has since been extinguished by Dublin Fire Brigade, started on George's Dock Bridge shortly after 6pm yesterday evening. Is ar Dhroichead Dhuga Sheoirse go gairid tar éis 6 a chlog tráthnóna inné a thosaigh an dóiteán atá múchta ó shin ag Briogáid Dóiteáin Bhaile Átha Cliath. The electricity cables and gas main underneath the bridge caught fire. Chuaigh trí thine na cáblaí leictreachais agus an príomhlíonra gáis thíos faoin droichead. Gas Networks Ireland says its staff assisted the Fire Brigade in tackling the fire but the company says the cause is not yet known. Deir Líonraí Gáis Éireann gur chabhraigh foireann dá gcuid leis an mBriogáid Dóiteáin dul i ngleic leis an dóiteán ach deir an comhlacht nach fios fós cad ba chúis leis. RTÉ News and Current Affairs Nuacht agus Cúrsaí Reatha RTÉ

jQuery(document).ready(function(){ cab.clickify(); }); Original Podcast with clickable words https://tinyurl.com/29fssnck Contact: irishlingos@gmail.com Trump, Putin to meet in Alaska this evening. Trump, Putin le teacht le chéile in Alasca tráthnóna. A summit in Alaska between US President Donald Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin on ending the war in Ukraine will begin at approximately 8 p.m. Irish time. Is ag thart ar 8 a chlog tráthnóna, am na hÉireann, a chuirfear tús le cruinniú mullaigh in Alasca idir Uachtarán na Stát Aontaithe Donald Trump agus Uachtarán na Rúise Vladimir Putin maidir le deireadh a chur leis an gcogadh san Úcráin. The meeting will take place at a military base in Anchorage, and will likely only involve the two leaders and two interpreters. I mbunáit mhíleata in Anchorage a bheas an cruinniú ar siúl, ar cosúil nach mbeidh páirteach ann ach an bheirt cheannairí agus beirt ateangairí a chéile. Trump is eager to get to the bottom of things and make an agreement, especially since he has previously claimed that he would end the war as soon as he returns to power. Tá Trump ar bior le dul go bunsprioc agus comhaontú a dhéanamh, go háirithe ó mhaígh sé cheana go gcuirfeadh sé deireadh leis an gcogadh a luaithe a thiocfadh sé i gcumhacht arís. He admitted yesterday, however, that the knot is not ready to be untied and it must have been realized to him just in time that the one who is selfish for the sake of the good often gets the worst. D'admhaigh sé inné, áfach, nach réidh í an tsnaidhm le scaoileadh agus ní foláir nó gur taibhríodh dó díreach in am gurb é an díogha is minice a fhaigheann an té a bhíonn saintiúil chun an togha. While Trump is impatient and assertive, however, he has given up on Putin for being careless and manipulative, and the Russian appears to be less inclined to make a deal. Siúd is go bhfuil Trump mífhoighneach agus bundúnach, áfach, tá sé tugtha suas do Putin go bhfuil sé cáiréiseach agus dúnárasach agus dealraítear nach bhfuil an oiread fómhair ar fhear na Rúise comhaontú a dhéanamh. However, Trump has indicated that the meeting this evening will – from his perspective – only be a matter of de-escalation. Ar a shon sin, tá sé tugtha le fios ag Trump nach mbeidh sa chruinniú tráthnóna – óna thaobh féin de – ach an ceann a bhaint den scéal. If the conversation between him and Putin had a positive outcome, he said, he would like to organize another summit soon, which would include Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky. Dá mbeadh dea-thoradh ar an gcomhrá idir é agus Putin, arsa sé, ba mhian leis cruinniú mullaigh eile a eagrú gan mhoill a mbeadh Uachtarán na hÚcráine Volodymyr Zelensky páirteach ann. In light of this, he imagines that Zelensky and European Union leaders are now more optimistic than before that Trump will not yield too much to Putin. Ina fhianaise sin, samhlaíonn sé go bhfuil Zelensky agus ceannairí an Aontais Eorpaigh níos dóchasaí anois ná mar a bhí roimhe seo nach ngéillfidh Trump barraíocht do Putin. In fact, Zelensky said he believes Trump accepts that the security of Ukraine and the security of Europe as a whole must be protected in any peace agreement with Russia. Go deimhin, dúirt Zelensky go gcreideann sé go nglacann Trump leis go gcaithfí slándáil na hÚcráine agus slándáil na hEorpa trí chéile a chosaint in aon chomhaontú síochána a dhéanfaí leis an Rúis. A sensitive issue, however, and one that goes to the heart of the matter, is the land in Ukraine that the Russians have seized and which they have sworn to keep. Ceist íogair i gcónaí, ámh, agus a théann go smior an scéil, is ea an talamh san Úcráin atá gafa ag na Rúisigh agus a bhfuil siad mionnaithe é a choinneáil. RTÉ News and Current Affairs Nuacht agus Cúrsaí Reatha RTÉ

jQuery(document).ready(function(){ cab.clickify(); }); Original Podcast with clickable words https://tinyurl.com/24xz37ng Contact: irishlingos@gmail.com India Day at Farmleigh House cancelled due to safety concerns. Lá India in Áras Farmleigh ar ceal ar chúinsí sábháilteachta. The Indian Council of Ireland has announced that there will be no major festival celebrating India's National Day in Farmleigh House in Phoenix Park next Saturday as planned due to safety concerns in light of recent attacks on people of Indian origin. Tá Comhairle India na hÉireann tar éis fógairt nach mbeidh féile mhór ag ceiliúradh Lá Náisiúnta India in Áras Farmleigh i bPáirc an Fhionnuisce Dé Sathairn seo chugainn mar a bhí beartaithe ar chúinsí sábháilteachta i bhfianaise ionsaithe atá déanta le gairid ar dhaoine de bhunú India. Speaking in front of Government Houses after a meeting with the Tánaiste, Council chairman Prashant Shuki said "it is not currently appropriate to celebrate the national holiday, and we will review in the future to arrive at a new date for India Day." Ag labhairt dó os comhair Thithe an Rialtais tar éis chruinniú a bheith aige leis an Tánaiste dúirt cathaoirleach na Comhairle Prashant Shuki "nach bhfuil sé fabhrach faoi láthair an fhéile náisiúnta a cheiliúradh, agus beidh athbhreithniú againn amach anseo le theacht ar dháta nua do Lá India." Mr Shuki said they had consulted extensively, with the Gardaí and others, and said it was a difficult decision. Dúirt an tUasal Shuki go raibh caidreamh déanta go forleathan acu, leis na Gardaí agus le dreamanna eile, agus dúirt sé gur cinneadh deacair a bhí ann. He said they had been advised that there was no cause for concern about the events planned in Phoenix Park but "we were concerned about the celebration of the festival in other parts of the country." Dúirt sé go raibh comhairle faighte acu nach raibh aon údar imní faoi na himeachtaí a bhí beartaithe i bPáirc an Fhionnuisce ach "bhí imní orainn faoi cheiliúradh na féile i n-áiteacha eile sa tír." The Council has organized India Day every year since 2015, without any problems they said until this year. Tá Lá India eagraithe gach bliain ag an gComhairle ó 2015, gan aon fhadhb a dúirt siad go dtí i mbliana. Another group, the Federation of Indian Communities in Ireland, which also met with Minister Simon Harris, says it will continue as planned with Saturday's festival on Merrion Square in the centre of the capital. Deir grúpa eile, Cónaidhm na bPobal Indiacha i nÉirinn, a raibh cruinniú freisin acu leis an Aire Simon Harris go mbeidh siad féin ag leanacht mar a bhí beartaithe le féile Dé Sathairn ar Chearnóg Mhuirfean i lár na príomhcathrach. Last week, Colm Brophy, the Minister of State with Responsibility for Immigration, called for greater and stronger action from the Gardaí, and the newly appointed Garda Commissioner, following a series of attacks on people of Indian origin. An tseachtain seo caite a d'iarr Colm Brophy, an tAire Stáit ar a bhfuil Freagracht faoin Imirce, gníomh níos mó agus níos láidre óna Gardaí, agus ón gCoimisinéir nua- cheaptha ar na Gardaí, tar éis sraith ionsaithe a bhí déanta ar dhaoine de bhunú India. This was after the Indian Embassy in Dublin issued a warning to Indian citizens living and working in Ireland. Ba shin tar éis d'Ambasáid India i mBaile Átha Cliath foláireamh a chur amach ag saoránaigh de chuid India atá ina gcónaí agus ag obair i nÉirinn. More than 100 people from that country originally participated in a silent protest at the Department of Justice last month. Ghlac breis is 100 duine as an tír sin ó dhúchas páirt in agóid chiúin ag an Roinn Dlí agus Cirt an mhí seo caite. The Catholic Archbishop of Dublin, Dermot Farrell, said he was deeply saddened by the attacks and said he understood that people from India were scared and fearful of the unprovoked attacks. Dúirt ArdEaspag Caitiliceach Átha Cliath Dermot Farrell gur ghoill na hionsaithe go mór air agus d...

jQuery(document).ready(function(){ cab.clickify(); }); Original Podcast with clickable words https://tinyurl.com/28cpwcsz Contact: irishlingos@gmail.com Israel has been strongly criticized for its latest plan in Gaza. Iosrael cáinte go láidir faoina phlean is deireanaí i Gaza. The Israeli government's intention to seize complete control of Gaza city has been condemned internationally. Tá an rún atá ag Rialtas Iosrael forlámhas iomlán a ghabháil ar chathair Gaza cáinte go hidirnáisiúnta. 'It is only an expansion of the war and there is a great risk that millions of Palestinians will suffer as a result'. 'Níl ann ach leathnú ar an gcogaíocht agus tá an baol mór ann go mbeidh na milliúin Pailistíneach thíos leis'. That is what United Nations Secretary-General António Guterres has said as well as other international leaders since this morning. Sin atá ráite ag Ard Rúnaí na Náisiún Aontaithe, António Guterres chomh maith le ceannairí idirnáisiúnta eile ó mhaidin. Recently, France, Canada and Iran have been condemning what Israel is now planning in Gaza. Le deireanaí, tá an Fhrainc,Ceanada agus an Iaráin ag cáineadh a bhfuil á bheartú anois ag Iosrael i Gaza. Among the critics this morning were the United Kingdom, Jordan and China. I measc lucht an cháinte ar maidin bhí an Ríocht Aontaithe,an Iordáin agus an tSín. The United Nations says Israel's decision violates international law and violates the ruling of the International Criminal Court. Deir na Náisiúin Aontaithe gur sárú ar an dlí idirnáisiúnta atá ar bun ag Iosrael maidir leis an gcinneadh agus go sáraíonnn sé an rialú ón gCúirt Choiriúil Idirnáisiúnta. An emergency meeting of the organization's Security Council is scheduled to be held tomorrow in New York. Tá cruinniú éigeandála de chuid Chomhairle Slándála na heagraíochta sin le tionól amárach i Nua Eabhrac. All member states except the United States and Panama requested such a meeting. D'iarr na ballstáit uilig seachas na Stáit Aontaithe agus Panama a léithid de chruinniú. European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen is calling on Israel to review this policy. Tá Uachtarán an Choimisiúin Eorpaigh,Ursula von der Leyen ag iarraidh ar Iosrael athbhreithniú a dhéanamh ar an bpolasaí seo. The Palestinian Ambassador to the United Nations, Riyad Mansour, has expressed his gratitude to all world leaders who are standing with the people of Gaza in this crisis. Tá a bhuíochas gafa ag Ambasadóir na bPailistíneach chun na Náisiúin Aontaithe,Riyad Mansour leis na ceannairí domhanda ar fad atá ag seasamh le pobal Gaza sa ghéarchéim seo. Israeli Defense Minister Israel Katz, however, has not accepted any of this international criticism, although neither the army chief of staff nor the leader of the opposition in Israel are overly impressed with the military occupation of Gaza. Níl aon ghlacadh ag Aire Cosanta Iosrael,Israel Katz áfach le haon chuid den cháineadh idirnáisiúnta seo, cé nach ró-thógtha atá ceann foirne an airm ná ceannaire an fhreasúra in Iosrael leis an seilbh mhíleata ar Gaza ach oiread. Israel's aim is now to gain full military control of Gaza according to this new plan, which has received the blessing of the Israeli Security Government. Ceannas iomlán míleata a fháil ar Gaza aidhm Iosrael anois de réir an phlean nua seo a bhfuil beannacht faighte aige ó Rialtas Slándála Iosrael. That will initially focus on Gaza city. Díreoidh sin ar dtús ar chathair Gaza. The aim is to disarm Hamas militants, free all remaining hostages, demilitarize Gaza and gain full control of the strip. Tá sé i gceist treallchogaithe Hamas a dhíarmáil, na gialla ar fad atá fós beo a shaoradh,dímhíleatú a dhéanamh ar Gaza agus smacht iomlán a fháil ar an stráice. The Hamas organization has said that all of this is a war crime. Tá sé ráite ag an eagraíocht Hamas gur coir chogaidh atá anseo uilig. Hamas says it is willing to release the rest of the hostages it is holding on the condition that a ceasefire ...

jQuery(document).ready(function(){ cab.clickify(); }); Original Podcast with clickable words https://tinyurl.com/22hkrkmr Contact: irishlingos@gmail.com Irish Water is asking people to save water in Dublin. Uisce Éireann ag iarraidh ar dhaoine uisce a spáráil i mBÁC. Irish Water has appealed to people living in the greater Dublin area to be water-efficient over the coming weekend. Tá achainí déanta ag Uisce Éireann ar dhaoine a bhfuil cónaí orthu sa mhórlimistéar thart ar Bhaile Átha Cliath a bheith spárálach leis an uisce i gcaitheamh an deireadh seachtaine romhainn. That's because maintenance is to be carried out on a pipeline that supplies one-third of the region's water and will be closed from 11 o'clock tonight until Sunday. Sin mar go bhfuil cothabháil le déanamh ar phíblíne a sholáthraíonn aon trian d'uisce an réigiúin agus go mbeidh sé casta dhe ón 11 a' chlog anocht go dtí an Domhnach. Irish Water says all treated water reservoirs are almost full but is asking customers in Dublin, Kildare and Wicklow to use only what they need in the coming days. Deir Uisce Éireann go bhfuil na taiscumair chóirithe uisce ar fad nach mór líonta suas ach iarrann sé ar chustaiméirí i mBaile Átha Cliath,Chill Dara agus Chill Mhantáin gan a úsáid ach an méid is gá doibh sna laethanta romhainn.

jQuery(document).ready(function(){ cab.clickify(); }); Original Podcast with clickable words https://tinyurl.com/227vsjrl Contact: irishlingos@gmail.com Nikita Hand to re-apply the law to McGregor. Nikita Hand leis an dlí a chur in athuair ar McGregor. Nikita Hand is set to take legal action against former MMA fighter Conor McGregor. Tá Nikita Hand leis an dlí a chur in athuair ar an iar-dhornálaí MMA,Conor McGregor. His lawyer has issued a new civil action against McGregor as well as a couple he had intended to use in his appeal before withdrawing the application. Tá caingean nua shibhialta eisithe ag a dlíodóir i gcoinne McGregor chomh maith le lánúin a raibh sé i gceist aige a úsáid ina achomharc sular tharraing sé siar an t-iarratas. Nikita Hand claims that the three engaged in malicious abuse of the court process. Maíonn Nikita Hand go raibh mí-úsáid mhailíseach ar bun ag an triúr i dtaca leis an bpróiseas cúirte. Conor McGregor had intended to ask Samantha O'Reilly and Steven Cummins to give evidence in the appeal, in the hope that Nikita Hand's evidence regarding the injuries she claims she suffered would be cast doubt on. Bhí sé i gceist ag Conor McGregor iarraidh ar Samantha O'Reilly agus Steven Cummins fianaise a thabhairt san achomharc, le súil is go gcaithfí amhras ar fhianaise Nikita Hand maidir leis na gortuithe a deir sí a d'fhulaing sí. He later withdrew that request, although it is still not entirely clear why he did this. Tharraing sé siar an t-iarratas sin ní ba dheireanaí, cé nach bhfuiltear baileach cinnte go fóill cén fáth a ndearna sé seo. Nikita Hand claims that all of this shows that McGregor was fabricating blatant lies. Tá sé maíte ag Nikita Hand go léiríonn seo ar fad gur deargbhréaga a bhí á gcumadh ag McGregor. McGregor lost yesterday in his appeal against the jury's decision in the High Court that he raped Nikita Hand in December 2018. Chaill McGregor inné san achomharc a thug sé i gcoinne chinneadh an ghiúiré san Ard Chúirt gur éignigh sé Nikita Hand i Nollaig na bliana 2018.

jQuery(document).ready(function(){ cab.clickify(); }); Original Podcast with clickable words https://tinyurl.com/2yrpl99b Contact: irishlingos@gmail.com Major tsunamis threatened in the Pacific Ocean. Súnámaithe móra á mbagairt san Aigéan Ciúin. It is considered one of the strongest earthquakes ever recorded. Áirítear é bheith ar cheann de na creathanna talún is láidre a ndearnadh taifead riamh air. Countries and regions in the North Pacific remain on high alert, including the west coast of the United States. Tá tíortha agus réigiúin i dtuaisceart an Aigéin Chiúin fós ar a n-airdeall, cósta thiar na Stát Aontaithe san áireamh. Large tsunami waves have already made landfall in the Kamchatka region of Russia and the American state of Hawaii, 3,000 miles offshore west of California. Tá tonnta móra súnámaithe cheana féin tar éis briseadh i dtír i réigiún Kamchatka sa Rúis agus i stát Meiriceánach Hawaii, 3,000 míle i bhfarraige siar ó California. However, it is understood that the worst of this is now over. Tuigtear áfach go bhfuil an chuid is measa de seo thart anois. Residents in Hawaii who had been warned have been told that it is now safe for them to return to their homes. Dúradh le háitritheoirí i Hawaii a raibh fainic curtha orthu, go bhfuil sé sábháilte dóibh anois filleadh ar a dtithe cónaithe. Nearly 2m people were also warned to leave their homes in Japan. Bhí rabhadh tugtha freisin do bheagnach 2m duine a dtithe cónaithe a fhágáil sa tSeapáin. This earthquake off the east coast of Russia had a magnitude of 8.8 on the Richter scale. 8.8 an chumhacht ar an scála richter a bhí ag an gcrith talún seo amach ó chósta thoir na Rúise.

jQuery(document).ready(function(){ cab.clickify(); }); Original Podcast with clickable words https://tinyurl.com/28bvpeom Contact: irishlingos@gmail.com Israel to allow relief parachuting into Gaza. Iosrael le paraisiútáil fóirithinte isteach go Gaza a cheadú. Israel is to allow other countries to parachute aid into Gaza, according to a statement broadcast on the Israeli forces' radio station. Tá Iosrael le cead a thabhairt do thíortha eile fóirithint a pharaisiútáladh isteach go Gaza, dar le ráiteas a craoladh ar stáisiún raidió fhórsaí Iosrael. Reuters sought a statement from the Israeli Army regarding the story broadcast on radio, but they have not yet provided a response. Lorg Reuters ráiteas ó Arm Iosrael i dtaca leis an scéal a craoladh ar raidió, ach níl freagra curtha ar fáil acu go fóill. Health authorities in Gaza say that 100 people have died in the strip from hunger since March, when Israel stopped the delivery of supplies. Deir na hÚdaráis Sláinte in Gaza go bhfuil 100 duine básaithe sa stráice de bharr an ocrais ó mhí an Mhárta, tráth a chuir Iosrael stop le seachadadh soláthairtí. Israel lifted the blockade in May, but the new organization set up to deliver aid, the Gaza Humanitarian Foundation, has been the subject of much controversy since then, given the number of Palestinians killed while trying to reach food distribution centers. Chuir Iosrael deireadh leis an imshuí i mí na Bealtaine ach tá an t-eagras nua a cuireadh ar bun chun fóirithint a sheachadadh, Fondúireacht Dhaonnúil Gaza, ina údar mór conspóide ó shin, i bhfianaise líon na bPailistíneach atá maraithe agus iad ag triall ar ionaid dáilithe bia. Meanwhile, a surgeon who worked in Gaza, Nick Maynard, has said that he believes Israeli soldiers are playing a game when they are shooting Palestinians in the strip. Idir an dá linn, tá sé ráite ag máinlia a d'oibrigh in Gaza, Nick Maynard, go bhfuil sé den bharúil go mbíonn saighdiúirí de chuid Iosrael ag imirt cluiche nuair atá siad ag scaoileadh le Pailistínigh sa stráice. He says that clear patterns are visible in terms of injuries, on different days. Deir sé go mbíonn pátrúin shoiléire le feiceáil ó thaobh na ngortuithe de, ar laethanta difriúla. "I wouldn't have believed it if I hadn't seen it myself," he said. "Ní chreidfinn féin é mura mbeadh sé feicthe agam féin", a dúirt sé. "One day, we would see, for example, gunshot wounds to the head mostly; another day, we would see gunshot wounds to the stomach." "Lá amháin, d'fheicfeadh muid, mar shampla, créachtaí lámhaigh don chloigeann den chuid is mó; lá eile, d'fheicfeadh muid créachtaí lámhaigh don bholg." The injuries, he said, indicate that it is as if soldiers are practicing hitting specific targets, on different days. Léiríonn na gortuithe, a dúirt sé, gur amhail is go mbíonn saighdiúirí i mbun cleachtais ar thargaidí ar leith a bhualadh, ar laethanta difriúla. "A different day again", he said, "all we saw were leg injuries. "Lá difriúil arís", a dúirt sé, "gortuithe coise ar fad a chonaic muid. "And about twelve days ago, four teenagers came to us because of a gunshot wound to the testicles." Agus thart ar dhá lá dhéag ó shin, tháinig ceathrar déagóirí chugainn de bharr a lámhaithe sna magairlí." Israel is to allow other countries to parachute aid into Gaza, according to a statement broadcast on the Israeli forces' radio station. Tá Iosrael le cead a thabhairt do thíortha eile fóirithint a pharaisiútáladh isteach go Gaza, dar le ráiteas a craoladh ar stáisiún raidió fhórsaí Iosrael.

jQuery(document).ready(function(){ cab.clickify(); }); Original Podcast with clickable words : Contact: irishlingos@gmail.com €112 billion to be invested in the State's infrastructure between 2026-2030. €112 billiún le hinfheistiú i mbonneagar an Stáit idir 2026-2030. The Government has published a revised version of the National Development Plan. Tá athleagan den Phlean Forbartha Náisiúnta foilsithe ag an Rialtas. According to the plan, €112 billion will be invested in major infrastructure projects in the State between 2026 and 2030. De réir an phlean, infheisteofar €112 billiún i mórthograí bonneagair sa Stát idir 2026 agus 2030. Housing, transport, energy and water are the infrastructure sectors that are in focus. Tithíocht, iompar, fuinneamh agus uisce na hearnálacha den bhonneagar atá i dtreis. It is said that €30 billion of the €112 billion will come from the money the State received in taxes from the Apple company – an unexpected fund – and from the money received from the sale of the State's shares in the AIB bank. Deirtear go dtiocfaidh €30 billiún den €112 billiún ón airgead a fuair an Stát i gcáin ón gcomhlacht Apple – ciste nach raibh coinne leis – agus ón airgead a fuarthas ó scaireanna an Stáit i mbanc an AIB a dhíol. The rest of the money is new funding. Maoiniú úr atá sa chuid eile den airgead. The housing sector will be given priority in the plan. Is don earnáil tithíochta a thabharfar tús áite sa phlean. €36 billion will be invested in this sector, not including connecting homes to a water supply. €36 billiún a infheisteofar san earnáil sin, gan tithe a nascadh le soláthar úisce a chur san áireamh. €24 billion will be invested in the transport sector, of which €2 billion will be provided for the Dublin Metro. €24 billiún a infheisteofar san earnáil iompair agus cuirfear €2 bhilliún den mhéid sin ar fáil do Mheitreo Bhaile Átha Cliath. €3.5 billion will be set aside for electricity services and this money will be paid to the Electricity Supply Board and Eirgrid. €3.5 billiún a chuirfear i leataobh le haghaidh seirbhísí leictreachais agus is le Bord Soláthair an Leictreachais agus le Eirgrid a íocfar an t-airgead sin. €4.5 billion is to be made available to Irish Water, approximately half to provide water to an additional 300,000 homes and the other half for other major projects. Tá €4.5 billiún le cur ar fáil d'Uisce Éireann, tuairim is a leath chun uisce a sholáthar do 300,000 áras cónaithe breise agus an leath eile le haghaidh mórthograí eile. Announcing the plan in Government House, Taoiseach Micheál Martin said it was the largest investment ever made in the State's infrastructure. Agus an plean á fhógairt aige i dTithe an Rialtais, dúirt an Taoiseach Micheál Martin gurb é an infheistíocht is mó a rinneadh riamh i mbonneagar an Stáit é. Housing is more important than any other aspect of the plan and the private sector must be involved if this major issue is to be resolved, he said. Is tábhachtaí tithíocht ná aon ghné eile den phlean agus caithfidh an earnáil phríobháideach a bheith rannpháirteach ann má táthar leis an gceist mhór sin a réiteach, arsa sé. The opposition has cast doubt on what the Government announced today, however. Tá amhras caite ag an bhfreasúra ar ar fhógair an Rialtas inniu, áfach. Sinn Féin, the Labour Party and the Social Democrats all claimed that the development plan lacked much detail, particularly in terms of housing. Sinn Féin, Páirtí an Lucht Oibre agus na Daonlathaithe Sóisialta, mhaígh siad ar fad nach raibh mórán mionsonraí sa phlean forbartha, go háirithe ó thaobh cúrsaí tithíochta de. The Construction Industry Federation, which has been a vocal voice on the issue, said it was disappointed that no specific major construction projects were announced in the plan and that no deadlines were set for what is planned. Dúirt Cónaidhm Thionscal na Foirgníochta, a bhfuil guthaíocht mhór acu ar an gceist,

jQuery(document).ready(function(){ cab.clickify(); }); Original Podcast with clickable words https://tinyurl.com/2yrtuc4x Contact: irishlingos@gmail.com Gaza: Israeli forces invade Deir al-Balah. Gaza: ionradh á dhéanamh ag fórsaí Iosrael ar Deir al-Balah. It is reported that Israeli military forces have been invading a specific area in the city of Deir al-Balah in central Gaza since early morning. Tuairiscítear go bhfuil ionradh á dhéanamh ag fórsaí míleata Iosrael ó mhoch maidine ar cheantar faoi leith i gcathair Deir al-Balah i lár Gaza. Before they began the siege, the Israelis ordered the thousands of Palestinians living in that particular area to leave immediately. Sular chuir siad tús leis an slad, d'ordaigh na hIosraelaigh do na mílte míle Palaistíneach atá ina gcónaí sa cheantar áirithe sin an áit a thréigean gan mhoill. It is estimated that between 50,000 and 80,000 people are living in the area, many of whom are refugees from Rafah and Khan Younis in southern Gaza, and their only shelter is tents and huts thrown together in destitution. Meastar idir 50,000 agus 80,000 duine a bheith ag cur fúthu sa cheantar, ar dídeanaithe as Rafah agus Khan Younis i ndeisceart Gaza cuid mhór acu agus gan d'fhothain acu ach pubaill agus brácaí a caitheadh le chéile faoi dhithneas. It is reported that these people are now heading south again, hoping to find temporary refuge in the al-Mawasi area, a piece of land near Khan Younis that the Israelis have turned into a prison and where thousands of Palestinian refugees are huddled. Tuairiscítear gur ag tabhairt aghaidh ó dheas arís atá na daoine sin anois agus súil acu tearmann sealadach a fháil i gceantar al-Mawasi, geadán talaimh in aice le Khan Younis atá iompaithe ina chró ag na hIosraelaigh agus a bhfuil na mílte ainniseoirí Palaistíneacha cuachta acu ann. The Israelis appear to intend to build a military highway around Deir al-Balah to separate the city from the rest of central Gaza, as they have already done in other parts of the enclave. Is cosúil go bhfuil rún ag na hIosraelaigh mórbhealach míleata a thógáil thart ar Deir al-Balah leis an gcathair a dheighilt ón gcuid eile de lár Gaza, mar atá déanta acu in áiteanna eile san iamhchríoch cheana. RTÉ News and Current Affairs Nuacht agus Cúrsaí Reatha RTÉ

Vue developer Alex Riviere joins Amy to explore the fundamental differences between Vue and React, diving deep into Vue's unique approach to reactivity, templating, and developer experience. From the magic of V-Model eliminating controlled/uncontrolled input complexity to Vue's proxy-based reactivity system that "just works," Alex explains why Vue's mental model clicked for him coming from jQuery. The conversation covers Vue 3's Composition API and Script Setup syntax, the evolution from VueX to Pinia for state management, and exciting developments like Vue Vapor Mode that will eliminate the virtual DOM entirely. Alex also breaks down Evan You's recent $4.6M VoidZero funding to revolutionize JavaScript build tooling, the flexibility of Nuxt as a meta-framework, and why Vue remains approachable enough to sprinkle into any project without complex build steps. Show Notes00:00 - Intro01:10 - How Alex Got Started with Vue03:00 - Vue vs React Mental Models08:00 - Vue's Approach to Forms and V-Model10:20 - Vue Frameworks: Nuxt and the Ecosystem17:00 - Vue 2 to Vue 3 Migration Challenges19:00 - Nuxt as a Dev Dependency vs Runtime22:30 - When Do You Need a Framework with Vue?25:30 - Laravel Integration and Alpine.js Connection27:40 - Vue's Reactivity System and Proxies29:40 - State Management: VueX to Pinia Evolution32:20 - SSR and Server Components in Vue34:10 - Hosting and Deployment Options35:40 - Evan You's VoidZero Funding and Vision43:10 - Vue Vapor Mode: Eliminating Virtual DOM47:40 - Getting Started with Vue Resources48:40 - Picks and Plugs Links and ResourcesPeople MentionedAlex Riviere - @alexriviereEvan You - Vue.js creator - @youyuxiBen Hong - Vue core team member - @bencodezenDaniel Roe - Nuxt team - @danielcroeTaylor Otwell - Laravel creator - @taylorotwellVue.js ResourcesVue.js Official Site - vuejs.orgVue.js Documentation - vuejs.org/guideVue School - vueschool.ioVue Mastery - vuemastery.comFrameworks & Tools MentionedNuxt - nuxt.comVite - vitejs.devAstro - astro.buildPinia (Vue state management) - pinia.vuejs.orgVueX (legacy state management) - vuex.vuejs.orgAlpine.js - alpinejs.devLaravel - laravel.comLivewire - livewire.laravel.comSolid.js - solidjs.comReact - react.devSvelte - svelte.devBuild Tools & InfrastructureESBuild - esbuild.github.ioRollup - rollupjs.orgNitroPack - nitro.unjs.ioWebpack - webpack.js.orgVoidZero (Evan You's new company) - voidzero.devHosting PlatformsNetlify - netlify.comVercel - vercel.comCloudflare - cloudflare.comReact Ecosystem (for comparison)Next.js - nextjs.orgRemix - remix.runRedwoodJS - redwoodjs.comGatsby - gatsbyjs.comPodcasts & ContentDeja Vue Podcast - dejavue.fm (mentioned Evan You VoidZero interview)Vue.js Conferences - VueConf eventsTechnical Concepts to ResearchVue Composition API - vuejs.org/guide/extras/composition-api-faq.htmlVue Script Setup - vuejs.org/api/sfc-script-setup.htmlVue Directives - vuejs.org/guide/essentials/template-syntax.html#directivesVue Reactivity - vuejs.org/guide/extras/reactivity-in-depth.htmlVue Vapor Mode (experimental) - github.com/vuejs/core-vaporJavaScript Proxies - MDN Proxy DocumentationSignals (reactive programming) - General concept in modern frameworksPicks & PlugsDropout TV - Nobody Asked - dropout.tvCodeMash Conference - codemash.orgWhoosh Screen Cleaner - https://amzn.to/4nBR5UtAdditional Helpful ResourcesVue 2 to Vue 3 Migration Guide - v3-migration.vuejs.orgVue vs React Comparison - vuejs.org/guide/extras/composition-api-faq.html#comparison-with-react-hooksIslands Architecture - jasonformat.com/islands-architecture

Carson Gross, creator of HTMX, talks about its evolution from intercooler.js, its viral rise on social media, and its philosophy of simplicity and stability. They dive into how HTMX fits into the modern web dev ecosystem, the idea of building 100-year web services, and why older technologies like jQuery and server-side rendering still have staying power. Carson also shares insights on open-source marketing, progressive enhancement, and the future of web development. Links https://bigsky.software https://www.linkedin.com/in/1cg https://github.com/bigskysoftware https://x.com/htmx_org https://htmx.org https://htmx.org/discord https://hypermedia.systems https://github.com/surrealdb/surrealdb.js https://unpoly.com https://ui.shadcn.com We want to hear from you! How did you find us? Did you see us on Twitter? In a newsletter? Or maybe we were recommended by a friend? Let us know by sending an email to our producer, Emily, at emily.kochanekketner@logrocket.com (mailto:emily.kochanekketner@logrocket.com), or tweet at us at PodRocketPod (https://twitter.com/PodRocketpod). Follow us. Get free stickers. Follow us on Apple Podcasts, fill out this form (https://podrocket.logrocket.com/get-podrocket-stickers), and we'll send you free PodRocket stickers! What does LogRocket do? LogRocket provides AI-first session replay and analytics that surfaces the UX and technical issues impacting user experiences. Start understand where your users are struggling by trying it for free at [LogRocket.com]. Try LogRocket for free today.(https://logrocket.com/signup/?pdr) Special Guest: Carson Gross.

If you're in SF: Join us for the Claude Plays Pokemon hackathon this Sunday!If you're not: Fill out the 2025 State of AI Eng survey for $250 in Amazon cards!Unsupervised Learning is a podcast that interviews the sharpest minds in AI about what's real today, what will be real in the future and what it means for businesses and the world - helping builders, researchers and founders deconstruct and understand the biggest breakthroughs. Top guests: Noam Shazeer, Bob McGrew, Noam Brown, Dylan Patel, Percy Liang, David LuanFull Episode on Their YouTubeTimestamps* 00:00 Introduction and Excitement for Collaboration* 00:27 Reflecting on Surprises in AI Over the Past Year* 01:44 Open Source Models and Their Adoption* 06:01 The Rise of GPT Wrappers* 06:55 AI Builders and Low-Code Platforms* 09:35 Overhyped and Underhyped AI Trends* 22:17 Product Market Fit in AI* 28:23 Google's Current Momentum* 28:33 Customer Support and AI* 29:54 AI's Impact on Cost and Growth* 31:05 Voice AI and Scheduling* 32:59 Emerging AI Applications* 34:12 Education and AI* 36:34 Defensibility in AI Applications* 40:10 Infrastructure and AI* 47:08 Challenges and Future of AI* 52:15 Quick Fire Round and Closing RemarksTranscript[00:00:00] Introduction and Podcast Overview[00:00:00] Jacob: well, thanks so much for doing this, guys. I feel like we've we've been excited to do a collab for a while. I[00:00:13] swyx: love crossovers. Yeah. Yeah. This, this is great. Like the ultimate meta about just podcasters talking to other podcasters. Yeah. It's a lot. Podcasts all the way up.[00:00:21] Jacob: I figured we'd have a pretty free ranging conversation today but brought a few conversation starters to, to, to kick us off.[00:00:27] Reflecting on AI Surprises and Trends[00:00:27] Jacob: And so I figured one interesting place to start is you know, obviously it feels that this world is changing like every few months. Wondering as you guys reflect path on the past year, like what surprised you the most?[00:00:36] Alessio: I think definitely recently models we kinda on the, on the right here. Like, oh, that, well, I, I I think there's, there's like the, what surprised us in a good way.[00:00:44] May maybe in a, in a bad way. I would say in a good way. Recently models and I think the release of them right after the new reps scaling instead talked by Ilia. I think there was maybe like a, a little. It's so over and then we're so back. I'm like such a short, short period. It was really [00:01:00] fortuitous[00:01:00] Jacob: timing though, like right.[00:01:01] As pre-training died, I mean, obviously I'm sure within the labs they knew pre-training was dying and had to find something. But you know, from the outside it was it, it felt like one right into the other.[00:01:09] Alessio: Yeah. Yeah, exactly. So that, that was a good surprise,[00:01:12] swyx: I would say, if you wanna make that comment about timing, I think it's suspiciously neat that like, because we know that Strawberry was being worked on for like two years-ish.[00:01:20] Like, and we know exactly when Nome joined OpenAI, and that was obviously a big strategic bet by OpenAI. So like, for it to transition, so transition so nicely when like, pre-training is kind of tapped out to, into like, oh, now inference time is, is the new scaling law is like conv very convenient. I, I, I like if there were an Illuminati, this would be what they planned.[00:01:41] Or if we're living in a simulation or something. Yeah.[00:01:44] Open Source Models and Their Impact[00:01:44] swyx: Then you said open source[00:01:45] Alessio: as well? Yeah. Well, no, I, I think like open source. Yeah. We're discussing this on the negative. I would say the relevance of open source. I would specifically open models. Yeah, I was surprised the lack, like the llamas of the world by the lack of adoption.[00:01:56] And I mean, people use it obviously, but I would say nobody's [00:02:00] really like a huge fanboy, you know, I think the local llama community and some of the more obvious use cases really like it. But when we talk to like enterprise folks, it's like, it's cool, you know? And I think people love to argue about licenses and all of that, but the reality is that it doesn't really change the adoption path of, of ai.[00:02:18] So[00:02:19] swyx: yeah, the specific stat that I got from on anchor from Braintrust mm-hmm. In one of the episodes that we did was I think he estimated that open source model usage in work in enterprises is that like 5% and going down.[00:02:31] Jacob: And it feels like you're basically all these enterprises are in like use case discovery mode, where it's like, let's just take what we think is the most powerful model and figure out if we can find anything that works.[00:02:39] And, you know, so much of, of, of it feels like discovery of that. And then, right, as you've discovered something, a new generation of models are out and so you have to go do discovery with those. And you know, I think obviously we're probably optimistic that the that the open source models increase in uptake.[00:02:50] It's funny, I was gonna say my biggest surprise in the last year was open source related, but it was just how Fast Open Source caught up on the reasoning models. It was kind of unclear to me, like over time whether there would be, you know, [00:03:00] a compounding advantage for some of the closed source models where in the, okay, in the early days of, of scaling you know, there was a, a tight time loop, but over time, you know, would would the gap increase?[00:03:08] And if anything it feels like a trunk. You know, and I think deep seek specifically was just really surprising in how, you know, in many ways if the value of these model companies is like you have a model for a period of time and you're the only one that can build products on top of that model while you have it.[00:03:21] Like, God, that time period is a lot shorter than a, than I thought it was gonna be a year ago.[00:03:25] swyx: Yeah. I mean, again, I I, I don't like this label of how Fast Open Source caught up because it's really how Fast Deepsea caught up. Right. And now we have, like, I think some of it is that Deepsea is basically gonna stop open sourcing models.[00:03:36] Yeah. So like there, there's no team open source, there's just different companies and they choose to open source or not. And we got lucky with deep seek releasing something and then everyone else is basically distilling from deep seek and those are distillations. Catching up is such an easier lower bar than like actually catching up, which is like you, you are like from scratch.[00:03:56] You're training something that like is competitive on that front. I don't know if [00:04:00] that's happening. Like basically the only player right now is we're waiting for LA four.[00:04:03] Jordan: I mean, it's always an order of magnitude cheaper to replicate what's already been done than to create something fundamentally new.[00:04:09] And so that's why I think deep seek overall was overhyped. Right? I mean obviously it's a good open source, new entrant, but at the same time there's nothing new fundamentally there other than sort of doing it executing what's already been done really well.[00:04:21] Alessio: Yeah,[00:04:21] Jordan: right.[00:04:21] Alessio: So Well, but I think the traces is like maybe the biggest thing, I think most previous open models is like the same model, just a little worse and cheaper.[00:04:30] Yeah. Like R one is like the first model that had the full traces. So I think that's like a net unique thing in fair, open source. But yeah, I, I think like we talked about deep seek in the our n of year 2023 recap, and we're mostly focused on cheaper inference. Like we didn't really have deep, see, deep CV three[00:04:47] swyx: was out then, and we were like, that was already like talking about fine green mixture of experts and all that.[00:04:51] Like that's a great receipt to[00:04:52] Jacob: have[00:04:52] swyx: to be like, yeah.[00:04:52] Jacob: End[00:04:53] swyx: of year 20. Yeah. That's a,[00:04:54] Jacob: that's a, that's, that's an[00:04:55] swyx: impressive one. You follow the right whale believers in Twitter. It's, it's like [00:05:00] pretty obvious. I actually had like so, you know, I used to be in finance and, and a lot, a lot of my hedge fund and PE friends called me up.[00:05:06] They were like, why didn't you tip us off on deep seek? And I'm like, well, I mean, it's been there. It's, it's actually like kind of surprising that like, Nvidia like fell like what, 15% in one day? Yeah. Because deep seek and I, I think it's just like whatever the market, public market narrative decides is a story, becomes the story, but really like the technical movements are usually.[00:05:26] One to two years in the making. Before that,[00:05:27] Jacob: basically these people were telling on themselves that they didn't listen to your podcast. They've been on the end of year 22, 3. No, no,[00:05:32] swyx: no. Like yeah, we weren't, we weren't like banging the drum. So like it's also on us to be like, no, like this. This is an actual tipping point.[00:05:38] And I think I like as people who are like, our function as podcasters and industry analysts is to raise the bar or focus attention on things that you think matter. And sometimes we're too passive about it. And I think I was too passive there. I'd be, I'd be happy to own up on that.[00:05:52] Jacob: No, I feel like over time you guys have moved into this margin general role of like taking stances of things that are or aren't important and, you know I feel like you've done that with MCP of [00:06:00] late and a bunch of[00:06:00] swyx: things.[00:06:00] Yeah.[00:06:01] Challenges and Opportunities in AI Engineering[00:06:01] swyx: So like the, the general pushes is AI engineering, you know, like it's gotta, gotta wrap the shirt. And MCP is part of that, but like the, the general movement is what can engineers do above the model layer to augment model capabilities. And it turns out it's a lot. And turns out we went from like, making fun of GPT rappers to now I think the overwhelming consensus GPT wrappers is the only thing that's interesting.[00:06:20] Yeah.[00:06:21] Jacob: I remember like, Arvin from Perplexity came on our podcast and he was like, I'm proudly a rapper. Like, you know, it's like anyone that's like talking about like, you know, differentiation, like pre-product market fit is like a ridiculous thing to, to say, like, build something people want and then yeah.[00:06:33] Over time you can kind of worry about that.[00:06:35] swyx: Yeah. I, I interviewed him in 2023 and I think he may have been the first person on our podcast to like, probably be a GBT rapper. Yeah. And yeah, and obviously he's built a huge business on that. Totally. Now, now we now we all can't get enough of it. I have another one for, Oh, nice.[00:06:47] That was Alessia's one and we, we perhaps individual answers just to be interesting in the same Uber on the way up. Yeah. You just like in the, in different Oh, I was driving too. Oh, you were driving. So I actually, I mean, it was a Tesla mostly drove mine was [00:07:00] actually, it is interesting that low-code builders did not capture the AI builder market.[00:07:04] Right. AI builders being bought lovable, low-code builders being Zapier, Airtable, retool notion. Any of those, like you're not technical. You can build software.[00:07:14] misc: Yeah.[00:07:14] swyx: Somehow not all them missed it. Why? It's bizarre. Like they should have the DNA, I don't know. They should have. They already have the reach, they already have the, the distribution.[00:07:25] Like why? I I have no idea. The ability to[00:07:27] Jacob: fast follow too. Like I'm surprised there's Yeah. There's just[00:07:29] swyx: nothing. Yeah. What do you make of that? I, it seems and you know, not to come back to the AI engineering future, like it takes a, a certain kind of. Founder mindset or AI engineer mindset to be like, we will build this from whole cloth and not be tied to existing paradigms.[00:07:45] I think, 'cause I like, if I was, if I'm to, you know, you know, Wade or who's, who's, who's the Zapier person than, you know, Mike. Mike who has left the Zapier. Yeah. What's the, yeah. Like you know, Zapier, when they decided to do Zapier ai, they [00:08:00] were like, oh, you can use natural language to make Zap actions, right?[00:08:03] When Notion decided to do Notion ai, they were like, oh, you can like, you know write documents or, you know, fill in tables with, with ai. Like, they didn't do the, the, the, the next step because they already had their base and they were like, let's improve our baseline. And the other people who actually tried for to, to create a phone cloth were like, we, we got no prior preconceptions.[00:08:24] Like, let's see what we can, what kinda software people can build with like from scratch, basically. I don't know that, that's my explanation. I dunno if you guys have any retros on the AI builders?[00:08:33] Jacob: Yeah. Or, or, or did they kind of get lucky getting, you know starting that product journey? Like right as the models were reaching the inflection point?[00:08:39] There's the timing[00:08:40] swyx: issue. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. Like I, I, to some extent, I think the only reason you and I are talking about it is that they, both of them have reported like ridiculous numbers. Like zero to 20 million in three months, basically, both of them. Jordan, did you have a, a big surprise?[00:08:55] Jordan: Yeah, I mean, some of what's already been discussed. I guess the only other thing would be on the Apple side in particular, I [00:09:00] think, I think you know, for the last text message summary, like, but they're[00:09:04] Jacob: funny. They're funny at how bad they had, how off they're, they're viral. Yeah.[00:09:08] Jordan: I mean, so like for the last couple years we've seen so many companies that are trying to do personal assistance, like all these various consumer things, and one of the things we've always asked is, well, apple is in prime position to do all this.[00:09:18] And then with Apple Intelligence, they just. Totally messed up in so many different ways. And then the whole BBC thing saying that the guy shot himself when he didn't. And just like, there's just so many things at this point that I would've thought that they would've ironed up their, their AI products better, but just didn't really catch on,[00:09:35] Jacob: you know, second on this list of, of generally overly broad opening questions would be anything that you guys think is kind of like overhyped or under hyped in the AI world right now?[00:09:43] Alessio: Overhyped agents framework. Sorry. Not naming any particular ones. I'm sorry. Not, not not, yeah, exactly. It's not, I, I would say they're just overall a chase to try and be the framework when the workloads are like in such flux. Yeah. That I just think is like so [00:10:00] hard to reconcile the two. I think what Harrison and Link Chain has done so amazingly, it's like product velocity.[00:10:05] Like, you know, the initial obstructions were maybe not the ending obstruction, but like they were just releasing stuff every day trying to be on top of it. But I think now we're like past that, like what people are looking for now. It's like something that they can actually build on mm-hmm. And stay on for the next couple of years.[00:10:23] And we talked about this with Brett Taylor on our episode, and it feels like, it's like the jQuery era Yeah. Of like agents and lms. It's like, it's kinda like, you know, single file, big frameworks, kinda like a lot of players, but maybe we need React. And I think people are just trying to build still Jake Barry.[00:10:39] Like, I don't really see a lot of people doing react like,[00:10:43] swyx: yeah. Maybe the, the only modification I made about that is maybe it's too early even for frameworks at all. And the thing that, and do you think[00:10:50] Jacob: there's enough stability in the underlying model layer and, and patterns to, to have this,[00:10:54] swyx: the thing is the protocol and not the framework?[00:10:56] Jacob: Yeah.[00:10:56] swyx: Because frameworks inherently embed protocols, but if you just focus on a protocol, maybe that [00:11:00] works. And obviously MCP is. The current leading mm-hmm. Area. And you know, I think the comparison there would be, instead of just jQuery, it is XML HTB requests, which is like the, the thing that enabled Ajax.[00:11:10] And that was the, the, the, the, the sort of inciting incident for JavaScripts being popular as a language.[00:11:16] Jordan: I would largely agree with that. I mean, I think on the, the react side of things, I think we're starting to see more frameworks sort of go after more of that, I guess like master is sort of like on the TypeScript side and more of like a sort of master.[00:11:28] Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The traction is really impressive there. And so I think we're starting to see more surface there, but I think there's still a big opportunity. What do you have for for an over or under hyped on the under hype side? You know, I actually, I, I know I mentioned Apple already, but I think the private cloud compute side with PCC, I actually think that could be really big.[00:11:45] It's under the radar right now. Mm-hmm. But in terms of basically bringing. The on device sort of security to the cloud. They've done a lot of architecturally interesting things there. Who's they? Apple. Oh, okay. On the PCC side. And so I actually think of that.[00:11:58] swyx: So you're negative on Apple [00:12:00] Intelligence, but also on Apple Cloud,[00:12:01] Jordan: on the more of the local device.[00:12:04] Sort of, I think there'll be a lot of workloads still on device, but when you need to speak to the cloud for larger LLMs, I think that Apple has done really interesting thing on the privacy side.[00:12:13] Alessio: Yeah. We did the seed of a company that does that, so Yeah. Especially as things become more co that you set 'em up on purpose.[00:12:18] So that felt like a perfect Yeah, no, I was like, let's go Jordan, you guys concluding before this episode? Tell me about that company after. We'll chat after, but, but yes, I, I think that's like the unique the thing about LLM workflows is like you just cannot have everything be single tenant, right?[00:12:35] Because you just cannot get enough GPUs. Like even like large enterprises are used to having VPCs and like everything runs privately. But now you just cannot get enough GPUs to run in a VPC. So I think you're gonna need to be in a multi-tenant architecture, and you need, like you said, like single tenant guarantees in multi-tenant environment.[00:12:52] So yeah, it's a interesting space.[00:12:55] swyx: Yeah. What about you, Swiss? Under hypes, I want to say [00:13:00] memory. Just like stateful ai. As part of my keynote on, on for just like every, every conference I do, I do a keynote and I try to do the task of like defining an agent, just, you know, always evergreen content, every content for a keynote.[00:13:14] But I did it in a, in a way that it was like I think like a, what a researcher would do. Like you, you survey what people say and then you sort of categorize and, and go like, okay, this is the, the. What everyone calls agents and here are the groups of DEF definitions. Pick and choose. Right. And then it was very interesting that the week after that OpenAI launched their agents SDK and kind of formalized what they think agents are.[00:13:34] CloudFlare also did the same with us and none of them had memory. Yeah, it's very strange. The, pretty much like the only big lab o obviously there, there's conversation memory, but there's not memory memory like in like a, like a let's store a large across fact about you and like, you know, exceed the, the context length.[00:13:54] And here's the, if you, if you're look, if you look closely enough, there's a really good implementation of memory inside of [00:14:00] MCP when they launched with the initial set of servers. They had a memory server in there, which I, I would recommend as like, that's where you start with memory. But I think like if there was a better, I.[00:14:10] Memory abstraction, then a lot of our agents would be smarter and could learn on, on the job, which is something that we all want. And for some reason we all just like ignored that because it's just convenient to, and, but do you feel like[00:14:24] Jacob: it's being ignored or it's just a really hard problem and like lots of, I feel like lots of people are working on it.[00:14:27] Just feels like it's, it's proven more challenging.[00:14:29] swyx: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, so Harrison has lang me, which I think now he's like, you know, relaunched again. And then we had letter come speak at our mm-hmm. Our conference I don't know, Zep, I think there's a bunch of other memory guys, but like, something like this I think should be normal in the stack.[00:14:44] And basically I think anything stateful should be interesting to VCs 'cause it's databases and, you know, we know how those things make money.[00:14:51] Jacob: I think on the over hype side, the only thing I'd add is like, I'm, I'm still surprised how many net new companies there are training models. I thought we were kind of like past that.[00:14:58] And[00:14:58] swyx: I would say they died end of last year. And now, [00:15:00] now they've resurfaced. Yeah. I mean they, that's one of the questions that you had down there of like, yeah. Sorry. Is there an opportunity for net new model players? I wouldn't say no. I don't know what you guys think.[00:15:08] Alessio: I, I don't have a reason to say no, but I also don't have a reason to say, this is what is missing and you should have a new model company do it.[00:15:15] But again, I'm an add here. Like, all these guys wanna[00:15:17] swyx: pursue a GI, you know, all, they all want to be like, oh, we'll, we'll like hit, you know, soda on all the benchmarks and like, they can't all do it. Yeah.[00:15:25] Jacob: I mean, look, I don't know if Ilia has the secret secret approach up his sleeve of of something beyond test time compute.[00:15:29] Mm-hmm. But it was funny, I, we had Noam Shaer on the podcast last week. I was asking him like, you know, is, is there like some sort of other algorithmic breakthrough? Would he make a Ilia? And he's like, look, I think what he is implicitly said was test time compute gets to the point where these models are doing AI engineering for us.[00:15:43] And so, you know, at that point they'll figure out the next algorithm breakthrough. Yeah. Which I thought was was pretty interesting.[00:15:47] Jordan: I agree with you folks. I think that we're most interested, at least from our side and like, you know, foundation models for specific use cases and more specialized use cases.[00:15:55] Mm-hmm. I guess the broader point is if there is something like that, that these companies can latch onto [00:16:00] and being there sort of. Known for being the best at. Maybe there's a case for that. Largely though I do agree with you that I don't think there should be, at this point, more model companies. I think it's like[00:16:09] Jacob: these[00:16:09] Jordan: unique data[00:16:09] Jacob: sets, right?[00:16:10] I mean, obviously robotics has been an area we've been really interested in. It's entirely different set of data that's required, you know, on top of like a, a good BLM and then, you know, biology, material sciences, more the specific use cases basically. Yeah. But also specific, like specific markets. A lot of these models are super generalizable, but like, you know finding opportunities to, you know, where, you know, for a lot of these bio companies, they have wet labs, like they're like running a ton of experiments or you know, same on the material sciences side.[00:16:31] And so I still feel like there's some, some opportunities there, but the core kind of like LLM agent space is it's tough, tough to compete with the big ones.[00:16:38] Alessio: Yeah. Agree. Yeah. But they're moving more into product. Yeah. So I think that's the question is like, if they could do better vertical models, why not do that instead of trying to do deep research and operator?[00:16:50] And these different things. Mm-hmm. I think that's what I'm, in my mind, it's like the agents coming[00:16:53] swyx: out too.[00:16:54] Alessio: Well. Yeah. In my, in my mind it's like financial pressure. Like they need to monetize in a much shorter timeframe [00:17:00] because the costs are so high. But maybe it's like, it's not that easy to, do[00:17:04] Jacob: you think they would be, that it would be a better business model to like, do a bunch of vertical?[00:17:07] Well, it's more like[00:17:07] Alessio: why wouldn't they, you know, like you make less enemies if you're like a model builder, right? Yeah. Like, like now with deep research and like search, now perplexity like an enemy and like a, you know, Gemini deep research is like more of an enemy. Versus if they were doing a finance model, you know?[00:17:25] Mm-hmm. Or whatever, like they would just enable so many more companies and they always have, like they had as one of the customer case studies for GBT search, but they're not building a finance based model for them. So is it because it's super hard and somebody should do it? Or is it because the new models.[00:17:41] Are gonna be so much better that like the vertical models are useless anyways. Like this is better lesson. Exactly.[00:17:46] Jacob: It still seems to be a somewhat outstanding question. I, I'd say like, all the signs of the last few years seem to be like a general purpose model is like the way to go. And, you know, you know, like training a hyper-specific model in this, in, in a domain is like, you know, maybe it's cheaper and faster, but it's not gonna be like higher quality.[00:17:59] But [00:18:00] also like, I think it's still an, I mean, we were talking to, to no and Jack Ray from Google last week, and they were like, yeah, this is still an outstanding, like, we, we check this every time we have a new model. Like whether there's you know, there that still seems to be holding. I remember like a few years ago, it felt like all the rage was like the, it was like the Bloomberg GPT model came out.[00:18:14] Everyone was like, oh, you gotta like, you know, massive data. Yeah. I had[00:18:17] swyx: a GPA, I had DP of AI of Bloomberg present on that. Yeah. That must be a really[00:18:20] Jacob: interesting episode to go back on because I feel like, like very shortly thereafter, the next opening AI model came out and just like beat it on all sorts of[00:18:25] swyx: No, it, it was a talk.[00:18:26] We haven't released it yet, but yeah, I mean it's basically they concluded that the, the closed models were better so they just Yeah. Stopped. Interesting. Exactly. So I feel like that's been the but he's I, I would be. He's very insistent that the work that they did, the team he assembled, the data that he collected is actually useful for more than just the model.[00:18:42] So like, basically everything but the model survived. What are the other things? The data pipeline. Okay. The team that they, they, they assembled for like fine tuning and implementing whatever models they, they ended up picking. Yeah, it seems like they are happy with that. And they're running with that.[00:18:57] He runs like 12, 13 [00:19:00] teams at Bloomberg just working. Jenny, I across the company.[00:19:03] Jacob: I mean, I guess we've, we've all kind of been alluding it to it right now, but I guess because it's a natural transition. You know, the other broad opening I have is just what we're paying most attention to right now. And I think back on this, like, you know, the model company's coming into the product area.[00:19:13] I mean, I think that's gonna be like, I'm fascinated to see how that plays out over the next year and kind of these like frenemy dynamics and it feels like it's gonna first boil up on like cursor anthropic and like the way that plays out over the next six months I think will be. What, what is Cursor?[00:19:26] swyx: Anthropic is, you mean Cursor versus anthropic or, yeah. And I[00:19:29] Jacob: assume, you know, over time Anthropic wants to get more into the application side of coding Uhhuh. And you know, I assume over time Cursor will wanna diversify off of, you know, just using the Anthropic model.[00:19:39] swyx: It's interesting that now Cursor is now worth like 10 billion, nine, nine, 10 billion.[00:19:43] Yeah. And like they've made themselves hard to acquire, like I would've said, like, you should just get yourself to five, 6 billion and join OpenAI. And like all the training data goes through OpenAI and that's how they train their coding model. Now it's not as complicated. Now they need to be an independent company.[00:19:57] Jacob: Increasingly, it's seems to the model companies want to get into the [00:20:00] product layer. And so seeing over the next six, 12 months does having the best model, you know let you kind of start from a cold start on the product side and, and get something in market. Or are the, you know, companies with the best products, even if they eventually have to switch to a somewhat worse, tiny bit worse model, does it not, you know, where do the developers ultimately choose to go?[00:20:16] I think that'll be super interesting. Yeah.[00:20:18] Alessio: Don't you think that Devon is more in trouble than cursor? I, I feel like on Tropic, if anything wants to move more towards, I don't think they wanna build the ID like if I think about coding, it's like kind of like, you know, you look at it like a cube, it's like the ID is like one way to get the code and then the agent is like the other side.[00:20:33] Yeah. I feel like on Tropic wants more be on the agent side and then hand you off the cursor when you want to go in depth versus like trying to build the claw. IDEI think that's not, I would say, I don't know how you think the[00:20:46] swyx: existence, a cloud code doesn't show, doesn't support what you say. Like maybe they would, but[00:20:52] Jacob: assume, like I assume both just converge eventually where you want have where will you be able to do both?[00:20:57] So,[00:20:57] swyx: so in order to be so we're, we're talking [00:21:00] about coding agents, whether it's sort of what is it? Inner loop versus auto loop, right? Like inner loop is inside cursor, inside your ID between inside of a GI commit and auto loop is between GI commits on, on the cloud. And I think like to be an outer loop coding agent, you have to be more of a, like, we will integrate with your code base, we'll sign your whatever.[00:21:17] You know, security thing that you need to sign. Yeah. That kinda schlep. I don't think the model ads wanna do that schlep, they just want to provide models. So that, that, that's, that would be my argument against like why cognition should still have, have, have some moat against anthropic just simply because they cognition would do the schlep and the biz dev and the infra that philanthropic doesn't really care about.[00:21:39] Jacob: I know the schlep is pretty sticky though. Once you do it,[00:21:41] swyx: it's very sticky. Yeah. Yeah. I mean it's, it's, it's interesting. Like, I, I think the natural winner of that should be sourcegraph. But there's another[00:21:47] Jacob: unprompted point portfolio. Nice. We, I mean they, they're[00:21:51] swyx: big supporters like very friendly with both Quinn and B and they've they've done a lot of work with Cody, but like, no, not much work on the outer [00:22:00] loop stuff yet.[00:22:01] But like any company where like they have already had, like, we've been around for 10 years, we, we like have all the enterprise contracts that you already trust us with your code base. Why would you go trust like factory or cognition as like, you know, 2-year-old startups who like just came outta MIT Like, I don't know.[00:22:17] Product Market Fit in AI[00:22:17] Jacob: I guess switching gears to the to the application side I'm curious for both of you, like how do you kind of characterize what has genuine product market fit in AI today? And I guess less, you more and your side of the investing side, like more interesting to invest in that category of the stuff that works today or kind of where the capabilities are going long term.[00:22:35] Alessio: That's hard. I was asking you to do my job for you, like, man, that's a easy, that's a layout. Tell us all your investing[00:22:40] pieces. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I, I, I would say we, well we only really do mostly seed investing, so it's hard to invest in things that already work. Yeah. That fair. Are really late. So we try to, but, but we try to be at the cusp of like, you know, usually the investments we like to make, there's like really not that much market risk.[00:22:57] It's like if this works. Obviously people are gonna [00:23:00] use it, but like it's unclear whether or not it's gonna work. So that's kind of more what we skew towards. We try not to chase as many trends and I don't know, I, you know, I was a founder myself and sometimes I feel like it's easy to just jump in and do the thing that is hot, but like becoming a founder to do something that is like underappreciated or like doesn't yet work shows some level of like dread and self, like you, you actually really believe in the thing.[00:23:25] So that alone for me is like, kind of makes me skew more towards that. And you do a lot of angel investing too, so I'm curious how,[00:23:31] swyx: Yeah, but I don't regard, I don't have, I don't use, put, put that in my mental framework of things like I come at this much more as a content creator or market analyst of like, yeah, it, it really does matter to me what has part of market fit because.[00:23:45] People, I have to answer the question of what is working now When, when people ask me,[00:23:50] Jacob: do you feel like relative to the, the obviously the hype and discourse out there, like, you know, do you feel like there's a lot of things that have product market fit or like a few things, like where a few things? Yeah.[00:23:58] swyx: I was gonna say this, so I have a list [00:24:00] of like two years ago we, I wrote the Anatomy of autonomy posts where it was like the, the first, like what's going on in agents and, and and, and, and what is actually making money. Because I think there's a lot of gen I skeptics out there. They're all like, these, these things are toys.[00:24:13] They're, they're not unreliable. And you know, why, why, why you dedicating your life to these things. And I think for me, the party market fit bar at the time was a hundred million dollars, right? Like what use cases can reasonably fit a hundred million dollars. And at the time it was like co-pilot it was Jasper.[00:24:30] No longer, but mm-hmm. You know, in that category of like help you write. Yeah. Which I think, I think was, was helpful. And then and the cursor I think was on there as, as a, as, as, as like a coding agent. Plus plus. I think that list will just grow over time of like the form factors that we know to work, and then we can just adapt the form factors to a bunch of other things.[00:24:47] So like the, the one that's the most recently added to this is deep research.[00:24:52] misc: Yeah.[00:24:52] swyx: Right. Where anything that looks like a deep research whether it's a grok version, Gemini version, perplexity version, whatever. He has an investment [00:25:00] that that he likes called Brightwave that is basically deep research for finance.[00:25:02] Yeah. And anything where like all it is like long-term agent, agent reporting and it's starting to take more and more of the job away from you and, and just give you much more reason to report. I think it's going to work. And that has some PMFI think obviously has PMF like I, I would say. It's I, I went to this exercise of trying to handicap how much money open AI made from launching open ai deep research.[00:25:25] I think it's billions. Like the, the, the mo the the she upgrade from like $20 to 200. It has to be billions in the R off. Maybe not all them will stick around, but like that is some amount of PMF that is didn't they have to immediately drop it down[00:25:38] Jacob: to the $20 tier?[00:25:39] swyx: They expanded access. I don't, I wouldn't say, which I thought was[00:25:42] Jacob: really telling of the market.[00:25:43] Right. It's like where you have a you know, I think it's gonna be so interesting to see what they're actually able to get in that 200 or $2,000 tier, which we all think is, is, you know, has a ton of potential. But I thought it was fascinating. I don't know whether it was just to get more people exposure to it or the fact that like Google had a similar product obviously, and, and other folks did too.[00:25:59] But [00:26:00] it was really interesting how quickly they dropped it down.[00:26:02] swyx: I don't, I think that's just a more general policy of no matter what they have at the top tier, they always want to have smaller versions of that in the, in the lower tiers. Yeah. And just get people exposure to it. Just, yeah, just get exposure.[00:26:12] The brand of being first to market and, and like the default choice Yeah. Is paramount to open ai[00:26:18] Jacob: though. I thought that whole thing was fascinating 'cause Google had the first product, right? Yeah. And no, like, you know, I, we[00:26:24] swyx: interviewed them. I, I, I, straight up to their faces, I was like, opening, I mocked you.[00:26:28] And they were like, yeah, well, actually curious, what's[00:26:30] Jacob: it, this is totally off topic, but whatever. Like, what is it going to take for go? Google just released some great models like a, a few weeks ago. Like I feel like it's happening. The stuff they're shipping is really cool. It's happening. Yeah, but I, I, I also, I feel like at least in the, you know, broader discourse, it's still like a drop in the bucket relative to[00:26:45] swyx: Yeah.[00:26:45] I mean, I, I can riff on, on this. I, I, but I, I think it's happening. I think it takes some time, but I am, like my Gemini usage is up. Like, I, I use, I use it a lot more for anything from like summarizing YouTube videos to the [00:27:00] native image generation Yeah. That they just launched to like flash thinking.[00:27:02] So yeah, multi-mobile stuff's great. Yeah. I run you know, and I run like a daily sort of news recap called AI news that is, 99% generated by models, and I do a bake off between all the frontier models every day. And it's every day. Like does it switch? I manual? Yes, it does switch. And I, man, I manually do it.[00:27:18] And flash is, flash wins most days. So, so like, I think it's happening. I think I was thinking, I was thinking about tracking myself like number of opens of tragedy, g Bt versus Gemini. And at some point it will cross. I think that Gemini will be my main and, and it, it, I I like that will slowly happen for a bunch of people.[00:27:37] And, and, and then that will, that'll shift. I, I think that's, that's a really interesting for developers, this is a different question. Yeah. It's Google getting over itself of having Google Cloud versus Vertex versus AI studio, all these like five different brands, slowly consolidating it. It'll happen just slowly, I guess.[00:27:53] Alessio: Yeah.[00:27:54] Yeah. I, I mean, another good example is like you cannot use the thinking models in cursor. Yeah. And I know [00:28:00] Logan killed Patrick's that they're working on it, but I, I think there's all these small things where like if I cannot easily use it, I'm really not gonna go out of my way to do it. But I do agree that when you do use them, their models are, are great.[00:28:12] So yeah. They just need better, better bridges.[00:28:15] swyx: You had one of the questions in the prep.[00:28:16] Debating Public Companies: Google vs. Apple[00:28:16] swyx: What public company are you long and short and minus Google versus, versus Apple, like, long, short. That was also my[00:28:23] Jacob: combo. I, I feel like, yeah, I mean, it does feel like Google's really cooking right now.[00:28:26] swyx: Yeah. So okay, coming back to what has product market fit[00:28:29] Jacob: now,[00:28:29] swyx: now that we come[00:28:30] Jacob: back to my complete total sidetrack,[00:28:33] Customer Support and AI's Role[00:28:33] swyx: there's also customer support.[00:28:35] We were talking on, on the car about Decagon and Sierra, obviously Brett, Brett Taylor is founder of Sierra. And yeah, it seems like there's just this, these layers of agents that'll like, I think you just look at like the income statement or like the, the org chart of any large scaled company and you start picking them off one by one.[00:28:51] What like is interesting knowledge work? And they would just kind of eat. Things slowly from the outside in. Yeah, that makes sense.[00:28:57] Alessio: I, I mean, the episode with the, [00:29:00] with Brett, he's so passionate about developer tools and Yeah. He did not do a developer tools. We spent like two hours talking about developer tools and like, all, all of that stuff.[00:29:10] And it's like, I, they a customer support company, I'm like, man, that says something. You know what I mean? Yeah. It's like when you have somebody like him who can like, raise any amount of money from anybody to do anything. Yeah. To pick customer support as the market to go after while also being the chairman of OpenAI, like that shows you that like, these things have moats and have longstanding, like they're gonna stick around, you know?[00:29:32] Otherwise he's smarter than that. So yeah, that's a, that's a space where maybe initially, you know, I would've said, I don't know, it's like the most exciting thing to, to jump into, but then if you really look at the shape of like, how the workforce are structured and like how the cost centers of like the business really end up, especially for more consumer facing businesses, like a lot of it goes into customer support.[00:29:54] AI's Impact on Business Growth[00:29:54] Alessio: All the AI story of the last two years has been cost cutting. Yeah. I think now we're gonna switch more towards growth revenue. [00:30:00] Totally. You know, like you've seen Jensen, like last year, GTC was saying the more you buy, the more you save this year is that the more you buy, the more you make. So we're hot off the[00:30:08] Jacob: press.[00:30:10] We were there. We were there. Yeah. I do think that's one of the most interesting things about the, this first wave of apps where it's like almost the easiest thing that you could you could get real traction with was stuff that, you know, for lack of a better way to frame it, like so that people had already been comfortable outsourcing the BPOs or something and kind of implicitly said like, Hey, this is a cost center.[00:30:24] Like we are willing to take some performance cut for cost in the past. You know, the, the irony of that, or what I'm really curious to see how it plays out is, you know, you, you could imagine that is the area where price competition is going to be most fierce because it's already stuff that you know, that people have said, Hey, we don't need the like a hundred percent best version of that.[00:30:42] And I wonder, you know, this next wave of apps. May prove actually even more defensible as you get these capabilities that actually are, you know, increased top line or whatnot where you're like, you take ai, go to market, for example. Like you're, you'd pay like twice as much for something that brought, like, 'cause there's just a kind of very clean ROI story to it.[00:30:59] And so [00:31:00] I wonder ultimately whether the, like this next set of apps actually ends up being more interesting than the, than the first wave.[00:31:05] Alessio: Yeah,[00:31:05] Voice AI and Scheduling Solutions[00:31:05] Jordan: I think a lot of the voice AI ones are interesting too, because you don't need a hundred percent precision recall to actually, you know, have a great product.[00:31:12] And so for example, we looked into a bunch of you know, scheduling intake companies, for example, like home services, right? For electricians and stuff like that. Today they miss 50% of their calls. So even if the AI is only effective, say 75% of the time, yeah, it's crazy, right? So if it's effective 75% of the time, that's totally fine because that's still a ton of increased revenue for the customer, right?[00:31:32] And so you don't need that a hundred percent accuracy. Yeah. And so as the models. And the reliability of these agents are getting better is totally fine, because you're still getting a ton of value in the meantime.[00:31:41] swyx: Yeah. One, this is, I don't know how related this is, but I, one of my favorite meetings at it is related one of my favorite meetings at AI Engineer Summit, it is like, like I do these, this is our first one in New York, and I it is like met the different crew than, than you meet here.[00:31:55] Like everyone here is loves developer tools, loves infra over there. They're actually more interested in [00:32:00] applications. It's kind of cool. I met this like bootstrap team that, like, they're only doing appointment scheduling for vets. They, they, yeah. And like, they're like, this is a, this is an anomaly. We don't usually come to engineering summits 'cause we usually go to vet summits and like talk to the, they're, they're like, you know, they, they're, they're literally, I'm sure it's a[00:32:16] Jordan: massive pain point.[00:32:17] They're willing to pay a lot of money.[00:32:20] Alessio: Yeah. But, but, but this is like my point about saving versus making more, it's like if an electrician takes two x more calls, do they have the bandwidth? To actually do two X more in-house and they get higher. Well, yeah, exactly. That's the thing is like, I don't think today most businesses are like structured to just like overnight two, three x the band, you know?[00:32:38] I think that's like a startup thing. Like mo most businesses then you make an[00:32:42] swyx: electrician agent. Well, no, totally. That's how do you, how do you recruiting agent for electrician, for like[00:32:49] Alessio: electrician. Great. That's a good point. How do you do lambda school for electrician? I, it's hilarious.[00:32:53] Jacob: Whack-a-mole for the bottlenecks in these businesses.[00:32:55] Like as, oh, now we have a ton of demand. Like, cool. Like where do we go?[00:32:58] swyx: Yeah.[00:32:59] Exploring AI Applications in Various Fields[00:32:59] swyx: So just to [00:33:00] round out the, the this PMF thing I think this is relevant in a certain sense of, like, it's pretty obvious that the killer agents are coding agents, support agents, deep research, right? Roughly, right. We've covered all those three already.[00:33:10] Then, then, then you have to sort of be, turn to offense and go like, okay, what's next? And like, what, what about, I[00:33:16] Jacob: mean, I also just like summarization of, of voice and conversation, right? Yep. Absolutely. We actually had that on there. I[00:33:21] swyx: just, I didn't put it as agent. Because seems less agentic, you know? But yes, still, still a good AI use case.[00:33:26] That one I, I've seen I would mention granola and what's the other one? Monterey, I think a bridge was one wanted to mention. I was say bridge. Yeah, bridge. Okay. So I'll just, I'll call out what I had on my slides. Yeah. For, for the agent engineering thing. So it was screen sharing, which I think is actually kind of, kind of underrated.[00:33:42] Like people, like an AI watching you as you do your work and just like offering assistance outbound sales. So instead of support, just being more outbound hiring, you say[00:33:51] Jacob: outbound sales has brought a market fit?[00:33:53] swyx: No, it, it, it will, it's come out. Oh, on the comp. Yeah. I was totally agree with that. Yeah. Hiring like the recruiting side education, like the, [00:34:00] the sort of like personalized teaching, I think.[00:34:02] I'm kind of shocked we haven't seen more there. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know if that's like, like it's like Duolingo is the thing. Amigo.[00:34:08] Jacob: Yeah. I mean, speak in some of these like, you know,[00:34:10] swyx: speak, practice, yeah. Interesting. And then finance, I, there's, there's a ton of finance cases that we can talk about that and then personal ai, which we also had a little bit of that, but I think personal AI is a harder to monetize, but I, I think those would be like, what I would say is up and coming in terms of like, that's what I'm currently focusing on.[00:34:27] Jacob: I feel like this question's been asked a few different ways but I'm, I'm curious what you guys think it's like, is it like, if we just froze model capabilities today, like is there, you know, trillions of dollars of application value to be unlocked? Like, like AI education? Like if we just stopped today all model development, like with this current generation of models, we could probably build some pretty amazing education apps.[00:34:44] Or like, how much of this, how much of, of all this is like contingent upon just like, okay, people have had two years with GBT four and like, you know, I don't know, six months with the reasoning models, like how much is contingent upon it just being more time with these things versus like the models actually have to get better?[00:34:58] I dunno, it's a hard question, so I'm gonna just throw it [00:35:00] to you.[00:35:00] Alessio: Yeah. Well I think the societal thing, it's maybe harder, especially in education. You know, like, can you basically like Doge. The education system. Probably you should, but like, can you, I I think it's more of a human,[00:35:14] Jacob: but people pay for all sorts of like, get ahead things outside of class and you know, certainly in other countries there's a ton of consumer spend and education.[00:35:21] It feels like the market opportunity is there.[00:35:23] swyx: Yeah. And, and private education, I think yeah, public Public is a very different, yeah. One of my most interesting quests from last year was kind of reforming Singapore's education system to be more sort of AI native, just what you were doing on the side while you were Yes.[00:35:38] That's a great, that's a great side quest. My stated goal is for Singapore to be the first country that has Python as a first language, as a, as a national language. Anyway, so, but the, the, the, the defense, the pushback I got from Ministry of Education was that the teachers would be unprepared to do it.[00:35:53] So it's like, it was like the def the, like, the it was really interesting, like immediate pushback. Was that the defacto teachers union being like, [00:36:00] resistant to change and like, okay. It's that that's par for the course. Anyway, so not, not to, not to dwell too much on that, but like yeah, I mean, like, I, I think like education is one of those things that pe everyone, like has strong opinions on.[00:36:11] 'cause they all have kids, all be the education system. But like, I think it's gonna be like the, the domain specific, like, like speak like such a amazing example of like top down. Like, we will go through the idea maze and we'll go to Korea and teach them English. Like, it's like, what the hell? And I would love to see more examples of that.[00:36:29] Like, just like really focus, like no one tried to solve everything. Just, just do your thing really, really well[00:36:34] Defensibility in AI Applications[00:36:34] Jacob: on this trend of of, of difficult questions that come up. I'm gonna just ask you the one that my partners like to ask me every single Monday, which is how do you think about defensibility at the at the app layer?[00:36:41] Alessio: Oh[00:36:41] Jacob: yeah, that's great. Just gimme an answer. I can copy paste and just like, you know, have network effects. Auto, auto response.[00:36:47] swyx: Honestly like network effects. I think people don't prioritize those enough because they're trying to make the single player experience good. But then, then they neglect the [00:37:00] multiplayer experience.[00:37:00] I think one of the I always think about like load-bearing episodes, like, you know, as, as park that you do one a week and like, you know, some of those you don't really talk about ever again. And others you keep mentioning every single podcast. And one of the, this is obviously gonna be the last one. I think the recap episodes for us are pretty load-bearing.[00:37:15] Like we, we refer to them every three months or so. And like one of them I think for us is Chai for me is chai research, even though that wasn't like a super popular one among the broader community outside of Chai, the chai community, for those who don't know, chai Research is basically a character AI competitor.[00:37:32] Right. They were bootstraps, they were founded at the same time and they have out outlasted character of de facto. Right. It's funny, like I, I would love to ask Mil a bit more about like the whole character thing, but good luck getting past the Google copy. But like, so he, like, he, like he doesn't have his own models, basically he has his own network of people submitting models to be run.[00:37:54] And I think like. That is like short term going to be hurting him because he doesn't have [00:38:00] proprietary ip. But long term he has the network network effect to make him robust to any changes in the future. And I think, like I wanna see more of that where like he's basically looking himself as kind of a marketplace and he's identified the choke point, which is will be app or the, the sort of protocol layer that interfaces between the users and the model providers.[00:38:18] And then make sure that the money kind of flows through and that works. I, I wish that more AI builders or AI founders emphasize network effects. 'cause that that's the only thing that you're gonna have with the end of the day. Yeah. And like brand deeds into network effects you.[00:38:34] Jacob: Yeah, I guess you know, harder in, in the enterprise context.[00:38:36] Right. But I mean, I feel, it's funny, we do this exercise and I feel like we talk a lot about like, you know, obviously there's, you know kind of the velocity and the breadth you're able to kind of build of product surface area. There's just like the ability to become a brand in a space. Like, I'm shocked that even in like six, nine months, how an individual company can become synonymous with like an entire category.[00:38:52] And like, then they're in every room for customers and like all the other startups are like clawing their way to try and get in like one, you know, 20th of those rooms.[00:38:59] Jordan: There's a [00:39:00] bunch of categories where we talk about an IC and it's like, oh, pricing compression's gonna happen, not as defensible. And so ACVs are gonna go down over time.[00:39:08] In actuality, some of these, the ACVs have doubled, we've seen, and the reason for that is just, you know, people go to them and pay for that premium of being that brand.[00:39:16] Jacob: Yeah. I mean, one thing I'm struck by is there's been, there was such a head fake in the early days of, of AI apps where people were like, we want this amazing defensibility story, and then what's the easiest defensibility story?[00:39:24] It's like, oh, like. Totally unique data set or like train your own model or something. And I feel like that was just like a total head fake where I don't think that's actually useful at all. It's the much less, you sound much less articulate when you're like, well the defensibility here is like the thousand small things that this company does to make like the user experience design everything just like delightful and just like the speed at which they move to kind of both create a really broad product, but then also every three, six months when a new model comes out, it's kind of an existential event for like any company.[00:39:49] 'cause if you're not the first to like figure out how to use it, someone else will. Yeah. And so velocity really matters there. And it's funny in in, in kinda our internal discussions, we've been like, man, that sounds pretty similar to like how we thought about like application SaaS [00:40:00] companies. That there isn't some like revolutionary reason you don't sound like a genius when you're like, here's applications why application SaaS company A is so much better than B.[00:40:07] But it's like a lot of little things that compound over time.[00:40:10] Infrastructure and AI: Current Trends[00:40:10] Jacob: What about the infrastructure space, guys? Like I'm curious you know. What, how do you guys think about where the interesting categories are here today and you know, like where, where, where do you wanna see more startups or, or where do you think there are too many?[00:40:21] Alessio: Yeah. Yeah, we call it kind of the L-L-M-O-S. But I would say[00:40:24] swyx: not we, I mean Andre, Andre calls it LMOS[00:40:27] Alessio: Well, but yeah, we, well everyone else just copies whatever two. And Andre, the three of you call it the LMO. Well, we have just like four words of ai framework Yeah. Yeah. That we use. And LM Os is one of them, but yeah, I mean, code execution is one.[00:40:39] We've been banging the drum, everybody now knows where investors in E two B. Mm-hmm. Memory, you know, is one that we kind of touched on before. Super interesting search we talked about. I, I think those are more not traditional infra, not like the bare metal infra. It's more like the infra around the tools for agents model, you know?[00:40:57] Which I think is where a lot of the value is gonna [00:41:00] be. The security[00:41:00] swyx: ones. Yeah.[00:41:01] Alessio: Yeah. And cyber security. I mean there's so much to be done there. And it's more like basically any area where. AI is being used by the offense. AI needs to be applied on the defense side, like email security, you know, identity, like all these different things.[00:41:16] So we've been doing a lot there as well as, you know, how do you rethink things that used to be costly, like red teaming and maybe used to be a checkbox in the past Today they can be actually helpful. Yeah. To make you secure your app. And there's this whole idea of like, semantics, right? That not the models can be good at.[00:41:32] You know, in the past everything is about syntax. It's kind of like very basic, you know, constraint rules. I think now you can start to infer semantics from things that are beyond just like simple recognition to like understanding why certain things are happening a certain way. So in the security space, we're seeing that with binary inspection, for example.[00:41:51] Like there's kinda like the syntax, but then there are like semantics of like understanding what is the scope overall really trying to do. Even though this [00:42:00] individual syntax, it's like seeing something specific. Not to get too technical, but yeah, I, I think infra overall, it's like a super interesting place if you're making use of the model, if you're just, I'm less bullish.[00:42:13] Not, not that it's not a great business, but I think it's a very capital intensive business, which is like serving the models. Mm-hmm. Yeah. I think that infra is like, great people will make money, but yeah. I, I, I don't think there's as much of a interest from, from us at[00:42:25] Jordan: least. Yeah. How, how do you guys think about what OpenAI and the big research labs will encompass as part of the developer and infra category?[00:42:31] Yeah.[00:42:31] Alessio: That, that's why I, I would say I search is the first example of one of the things we used to mention on, you know, we had X on the podcast and perplexity obviously as a, as an API. The basic idea[00:42:44] swyx: is if you go into like the chat GBT custom GPT builder, like what are the check boxes? Each of them is a startup.[00:42:50] Alessio: Yeah. And, and now they're also APIs. So now search is also an a p, we will see what the adoption is. There's the, you know, in traditional infra, like everybody wants to be [00:43:00] multi-cloud, so maybe we'll see the same Where change GPD search or open AI search. API is like, great with the open AI models because you get it all bundled in, but their price is very high.[00:43:11] If you compare it to like, you know, XI think is like five times the, the price for the same amount of research, which makes sense if you have a big open AI contract. But maybe if you're just like pick and best in breed, you wanna compare different ones. Yeah. Yeah, they don't have a code execution one.[00:43:26] I'm sure they'll release one soon. So they wanna own that too, but yeah. Same question we were talking about before, right? Did they wanna be an API company or a product company? Do you make more money building Tri g BT search or selling search? API?[00:43:38] swyx: Yeah. The, the broader lesson, instead of like going, we did applications just now.[00:43:42] And then what do you think is interesting infrastructure? Like it's not 50 50, it's not like equal weighted, like it, it's just very clearly the application layer has like. Been way more interesting. Like yes, there, there's interesting in infrastructure plays and I even want to like push back on like the, the, the whole GPU serving thing because like together [00:44:00] AI is doing well, fireworks, I mean I was, that worked.[00:44:02] Alessio: It's like data[00:44:02] Jacob: centers[00:44:03] Alessio: and inference[00:44:03] Jacob: providers,[00:44:04] Alessio: the,[00:44:04] swyx: you know,[00:44:04] Alessio: I think it's not like the capital[00:44:06] swyx: Oh, I see.[00:44:07] Alessio: I for, for again, capital efficiency. Yeah. Much larger funds. So you, I'm sure you have GPU clouds. Yeah.[00:44:13] swyx: Yeah. So that's, that's, that is one thing I have been learning in, in that you know, I think I have historically had dev tools and infra bias and so has he, and we've had to learn that applications actually are very interesting and also maybe kind of the killer application of models in a sense that you can charge for utility and not for cost.[00:44:33] Right? Which, where like most infrastructure reduces to cost plus. Yeah. Right. So, and like, that's not where you wanna be for ai. So that's, that's interesting for, for me I thought it would be interesting for me to be the only non VC in the room to be saying what is not investible. 'cause like then I then, you know, you can I, I won't be canceled for saying like, your, your whole category is, we have a great thing where like, this thing's[00:44:54] Jacob: not investible and then like three months later we're desperately chasing.[00:44:56] Exactly. Exactly. So you don't wanna be on a record space changes so [00:45:00] fast. It's like you gotta, every opinion you hold, you have to like, hold it quite loosely. Yeah.[00:45:02] swyx: I'm happy to be wrong in public, you know, I think that's how you learn the most, right? Yeah. So like, fine tuning companys is something I struggled with and still, like, I don't see how this becomes a big thing.[00:45:12] Like you kind of have to wrap it up in a broader, ser broader enterprise AI company, like services company, like a writer, AI where like they will find you and it's part of the overall offering. Mm-hmm. But like, that's not where you spike. Yeah, it's kind of interesting. And then I, I'll, I'll just kind of AI DevOps and like, there's a lot of AI SRE out there seems like.[00:45:32] There's a lot of data out there that that should be able to be plugged into your code base or, or, or your app to it's self-heal or whatever. It's just, I don't know if that's like, been a thing yet. And you guys can correct me if you're, if I'm wrong. And then the, the last thing I'll mention is voice realtime infra again, like very interesting, very, very hot.[00:45:49] But again, how big is it? Those are the, the main three that I'm thinking about for things I'm struggling with.[00:45:54] Jordan: Yeah. I guess a couple comments on the A-I-S-R-E side. I actually disagree with that one. Yeah. I think that the [00:46:00] reason they haven't sort of taken off yet is because the tech is just not there quite yet.[00:46:04] And so it goes back to the earlier question, do we think about investing towards where the companies will be when the models improve versus now? I think that's going to be, in short term we'll get there, but it's just not there just yet. But I think it's an interesting opportunity overall.[00:46:18] swyx: Yeah. It's my pushback to you is, well it's monitoring a lot of logs, right?[00:46:22] Yeah. And it's basically anomaly detection rather than. Like there's, there's a whole bunch of like stuff that can happen after you detect the anomaly, but it's really just an anomaly detection. And we've always had that, you know, like it's, this is like not a Transformers LLM use case. This is just regular anomaly detection.[00:46:38] Jordan: It's more in terms of like, it's not going to be an autonomous SRE for a while. Yeah. And so the question is how, how much can the latest sort of AI advancements increase the efficacy of going, bringing your MTTR

Today we are talking about The Drupal Developer Survey, Last year's results, and How it helps Drupal with guest Mike Richardson. We'll also cover HTMX as our module of the week. For show notes visit: https://www.talkingDrupal.com/493 Topics What is the Drupal Developer Survey How often does it come out How did it come to be What type of information does it collect Do you look at other surveys What were some of the most interesting stats last year Core contributors How do you expect last year to compare to this year Do you think the outlook will be more positive with Drupal CMS Drop off in Drupal 7 Home users DDEV usage AI questions Security questions Resources Drupal Developer Survey 2024 Results 2025 Drupal Developer Survey HTMX Sucks Guests Mike Richardson - Ironstar Dev Survey richo_au Hosts Nic Laflin - nLighteneddevelopment.com nicxvan John Picozzi - epam.com johnpicozzi Andrew Berry - lullabot.com deviantintegral MOTW Correspondent Martin Anderson-Clutz - mandclu.com mandclu Brief description: Have you ever wanted to replace Drupal's AJAX capabilities with a lightweight library that has no additional dependencies? There's a module for that. Module name/project name: HTMX Brief history How old: created in May 2023 by wouters_f though recent releases are by fathershawn of Memorial Sloan Kettering Cancer Center Versions available: 1.3.5 and 1.4.0, both of which support Drupal 10.3 and 11 Maintainership Actively maintained, latest release less than a month ago Security coverage Test coverage Documentation included in the repo as well as online Number of open issues: 3 open issues, 1 of which is a bug Usage stats: 92 sites Module features and usage To use HTMX, you need to attach the library to the render array of one or more elements where you want to use it, and then add data attributes to your render array that indicate how you want HTMX to react to user behaviour HTMX can help make your Drupal sites more interactive by dynamically loading or reloading parts of a page, giving it a more “application-like” user experience There is a planning issue to discuss gradually replace Drupal's current AJAX system with HTMX, and a related Proof Of Concept showing how that could work with an existing Drupal admin form A number of elements in the current AJAX system also rely on jQuery, so adopting HTMX would also help to phase out jQuery in core. HTMX is also significantly more lightweight than JS frameworks like React HTMX is really a developer-oriented project, which is why I thought it would be appropriate for this week's episode

Web developers use a lot of tools to get the job done and unfortunately, those tools sometimes get dropped in favor of newer and shinier ones. In this episode Matt and Mike take a trip down memory lane to revisit and discuss some of the JavaScript tools that have since lost presence in the zeitgeist. These tools include jQuery, MomentJS, Apache Cordova, and more! Some of these tools, while not as spry as they once were, are still fully supported and have new versions in development. While they might not be exciting enough to make headlines on the daily, many are still viable tools projects depending on a project's needs, wants, and age. Show Notes: https://www.htmlallthethings.com/podcasts/javascript-tech-we-loved-but-dont-use-as-much-anymore

If you're in SF, join us tomorrow for a fun meetup at CodeGen Night!If you're in NYC, join us for AI Engineer Summit! The Agent Engineering track is now sold out, but 25 tickets remain for AI Leadership and 5 tickets for the workshops. You can see the full schedule of speakers and workshops at https://ai.engineer!It's exceedingly hard to introduce someone like Bret Taylor. We could recite his Wikipedia page, or his extensive work history through Silicon Valley's greatest companies, but everyone else already does that.As a podcast by AI engineers for AI engineers, we had the opportunity to do something a little different. We wanted to dig into what Bret sees from his vantage point at the top of our industry for the last 2 decades, and how that explains the rise of the AI Architect at Sierra, the leading conversational AI/CX platform.“Across our customer base, we are seeing a new role emerge - the role of the AI architect. These leaders are responsible for helping define, manage and evolve their company's AI agent over time. They come from a variety of both technical and business backgrounds, and we think that every company will have one or many AI architects managing their AI agent and related experience.”In our conversation, Bret Taylor confirms the Paul Buchheit legend that he rewrote Google Maps in a weekend, armed with only the help of a then-nascent Google Closure Compiler and no other modern tooling. But what we find remarkable is that he was the PM of Maps, not an engineer, though of course he still identifies as one. We find this theme recurring throughout Bret's career and worldview. We think it is plain as day that AI leadership will have to be hands-on and technical, especially when the ground is shifting as quickly as it is today:“There's a lot of power in combining product and engineering into as few people as possible… few great things have been created by committee.”“If engineering is an order taking organization for product you can sometimes make meaningful things, but rarely will you create extremely well crafted breakthrough products. Those tend to be small teams who deeply understand the customer need that they're solving, who have a maniacal focus on outcomes.”“And I think the reason why is if you look at like software as a service five years ago, maybe you can have a separation of product and engineering because most software as a service created five years ago. I wouldn't say there's like a lot of technological breakthroughs required for most business applications. And if you're making expense reporting software or whatever, it's useful… You kind of know how databases work, how to build auto scaling with your AWS cluster, whatever, you know, it's just, you're just applying best practices to yet another problem. "When you have areas like the early days of mobile development or the early days of interactive web applications, which I think Google Maps and Gmail represent, or now AI agents, you're in this constant conversation with what the requirements of your customers and stakeholders are and all the different people interacting with it and the capabilities of the technology. And it's almost impossible to specify the requirements of a product when you're not sure of the limitations of the technology itself.”This is the first time the difference between technical leadership for “normal” software and for “AI” software was articulated this clearly for us, and we'll be thinking a lot about this going forward. We left a lot of nuggets in the conversation, so we hope you'll just dive in with us (and thank Bret for joining the pod!)Timestamps* 00:00:02 Introductions and Bret Taylor's background* 00:01:23 Bret's experience at Stanford and the dot-com era* 00:04:04 The story of rewriting Google Maps backend* 00:11:06 Early days of interactive web applications at Google* 00:15:26 Discussion on product management and engineering roles* 00:21:00 AI and the future of software development* 00:26:42 Bret's approach to identifying customer needs and building AI companies* 00:32:09 The evolution of business models in the AI era* 00:41:00 The future of programming languages and software development* 00:49:38 Challenges in precisely communicating human intent to machines* 00:56:44 Discussion on Artificial General Intelligence (AGI) and its impact* 01:08:51 The future of agent-to-agent communication* 01:14:03 Bret's involvement in the OpenAI leadership crisis* 01:22:11 OpenAI's relationship with Microsoft* 01:23:23 OpenAI's mission and priorities* 01:27:40 Bret's guiding principles for career choices* 01:29:12 Brief discussion on pasta-making* 01:30:47 How Bret keeps up with AI developments* 01:32:15 Exciting research directions in AI* 01:35:19 Closing remarks and hiring at Sierra Transcript[00:02:05] Introduction and Guest Welcome[00:02:05] Alessio: Hey everyone, welcome to the Latent Space Podcast. This is Alessio, partner and CTO at Decibel Partners, and I'm joined by my co host swyx, founder of smol.ai.[00:02:17] swyx: Hey, and today we're super excited to have Bret Taylor join us. Welcome. Thanks for having me. It's a little unreal to have you in the studio.[00:02:25] swyx: I've read about you so much over the years, like even before. Open AI effectively. I mean, I use Google Maps to get here. So like, thank you for everything that you've done. Like, like your story history, like, you know, I think people can find out what your greatest hits have been.[00:02:40] Bret Taylor's Early Career and Education[00:02:40] swyx: How do you usually like to introduce yourself when, you know, you talk about, you summarize your career, like, how do you look at yourself?[00:02:47] Bret: Yeah, it's a great question. You know, we, before we went on the mics here, we're talking about the audience for this podcast being more engineering. And I do think depending on the audience, I'll introduce myself differently because I've had a lot of [00:03:00] corporate and board roles. I probably self identify as an engineer more than anything else though.[00:03:04] Bret: So even when I was. Salesforce, I was coding on the weekends. So I think of myself as an engineer and then all the roles that I do in my career sort of start with that just because I do feel like engineering is sort of a mindset and how I approach most of my life. So I'm an engineer first and that's how I describe myself.[00:03:24] Bret: You majored in computer[00:03:25] swyx: science, like 1998. And, and I was high[00:03:28] Bret: school, actually my, my college degree was Oh, two undergrad. Oh, three masters. Right. That old.[00:03:33] swyx: Yeah. I mean, no, I was going, I was going like 1998 to 2003, but like engineering wasn't as, wasn't a thing back then. Like we didn't have the title of senior engineer, you know, kind of like, it was just.[00:03:44] swyx: You were a programmer, you were a developer, maybe. What was it like in Stanford? Like, what was that feeling like? You know, was it, were you feeling like on the cusp of a great computer revolution? Or was it just like a niche, you know, interest at the time?[00:03:57] Stanford and the Dot-Com Bubble[00:03:57] Bret: Well, I was at Stanford, as you said, from 1998 to [00:04:00] 2002.[00:04:02] Bret: 1998 was near the peak of the dot com bubble. So. This is back in the day where most people that they're coding in the computer lab, just because there was these sun microsystems, Unix boxes there that most of us had to do our assignments on. And every single day there was a. com like buying pizza for everybody.[00:04:20] Bret: I didn't have to like, I got. Free food, like my first two years of university and then the dot com bubble burst in the middle of my college career. And so by the end there was like tumbleweed going to the job fair, you know, it was like, cause it was hard to describe unless you were there at the time, the like level of hype and being a computer science major at Stanford was like, A thousand opportunities.[00:04:45] Bret: And then, and then when I left, it was like Microsoft, IBM.[00:04:49] Joining Google and Early Projects[00:04:49] Bret: And then the two startups that I applied to were VMware and Google. And I ended up going to Google in large part because a woman named Marissa Meyer, who had been a teaching [00:05:00] assistant when I was, what was called a section leader, which was like a junior teaching assistant kind of for one of the big interest.[00:05:05] Bret: Yes. Classes. She had gone there. And she was recruiting me and I knew her and it was sort of felt safe, you know, like, I don't know. I thought about it much, but it turned out to be a real blessing. I realized like, you know, you always want to think you'd pick Google if given the option, but no one knew at the time.[00:05:20] Bret: And I wonder if I'd graduated in like 1999 where I've been like, mom, I just got a job at pets. com. It's good. But you know, at the end I just didn't have any options. So I was like, do I want to go like make kernel software at VMware? Do I want to go build search at Google? And I chose Google. 50, 50 ball.[00:05:36] Bret: I'm not really a 50, 50 ball. So I feel very fortunate in retrospect that the economy collapsed because in some ways it forced me into like one of the greatest companies of all time, but I kind of lucked into it, I think.[00:05:47] The Google Maps Rewrite Story[00:05:47] Alessio: So the famous story about Google is that you rewrote the Google maps back in, in one week after the map quest quest maps acquisition, what was the story there?[00:05:57] Alessio: Is it. Actually true. Is it [00:06:00] being glorified? Like how, how did that come to be? And is there any detail that maybe Paul hasn't shared before?[00:06:06] Bret: It's largely true, but I'll give the color commentary. So it was actually the front end, not the back end, but it turns out for Google maps, the front end was sort of the hard part just because Google maps was.[00:06:17] Bret: Largely the first ish kind of really interactive web application, say first ish. I think Gmail certainly was though Gmail, probably a lot of people then who weren't engineers probably didn't appreciate its level of interactivity. It was just fast, but. Google maps, because you could drag the map and it was sort of graphical.[00:06:38] Bret: My, it really in the mainstream, I think, was it a map[00:06:41] swyx: quest back then that was, you had the arrows up and down, it[00:06:44] Bret: was up and down arrows. Each map was a single image and you just click left and then wait for a few seconds to the new map to let it was really small too, because generating a big image was kind of expensive on computers that day.[00:06:57] Bret: So Google maps was truly innovative in that [00:07:00] regard. The story on it. There was a small company called where two technologies started by two Danish brothers, Lars and Jens Rasmussen, who are two of my closest friends now. They had made a windows app called expedition, which had beautiful maps. Even in 2000.[00:07:18] Bret: For whenever we acquired or sort of acquired their company, Windows software was not particularly fashionable, but they were really passionate about mapping and we had made a local search product that was kind of middling in terms of popularity, sort of like a yellow page of search product. So we wanted to really go into mapping.[00:07:36] Bret: We'd started working on it. Their small team seemed passionate about it. So we're like, come join us. We can build this together.[00:07:42] Technical Challenges and Innovations[00:07:42] Bret: It turned out to be a great blessing that they had built a windows app because you're less technically constrained when you're doing native code than you are building a web browser, particularly back then when there weren't really interactive web apps and it ended up.[00:07:56] Bret: Changing the level of quality that we [00:08:00] wanted to hit with the app because we were shooting for something that felt like a native windows application. So it was a really good fortune that we sort of, you know, their unusual technical choices turned out to be the greatest blessing. So we spent a lot of time basically saying, how can you make a interactive draggable map in a web browser?[00:08:18] Bret: How do you progressively load, you know, new map tiles, you know, as you're dragging even things like down in the weeds of the browser at the time, most browsers like Internet Explorer, which was dominant at the time would only load two images at a time from the same domain. So we ended up making our map tile servers have like.[00:08:37] Bret: Forty different subdomains so we could load maps and parallels like lots of hacks. I'm happy to go into as much as like[00:08:44] swyx: HTTP connections and stuff.[00:08:46] Bret: They just like, there was just maximum parallelism of two. And so if you had a map, set of map tiles, like eight of them, so So we just, we were down in the weeds of the browser anyway.[00:08:56] Bret: So it was lots of plumbing. I can, I know a lot more about browsers than [00:09:00] most people, but then by the end of it, it was fairly, it was a lot of duct tape on that code. If you've ever done an engineering project where you're not really sure the path from point A to point B, it's almost like. Building a house by building one room at a time.[00:09:14] Bret: The, there's not a lot of architectural cohesion at the end. And then we acquired a company called Keyhole, which became Google earth, which was like that three, it was a native windows app as well, separate app, great app, but with that, we got licenses to all this satellite imagery. And so in August of 2005, we added.[00:09:33] Bret: Satellite imagery to Google Maps, which added even more complexity in the code base. And then we decided we wanted to support Safari. There was no mobile phones yet. So Safari was this like nascent browser on, on the Mac. And it turns out there's like a lot of decisions behind the scenes, sort of inspired by this windows app, like heavy use of XML and XSLT and all these like.[00:09:54] Bret: Technologies that were like briefly fashionable in the early two thousands and everyone hates now for good [00:10:00] reason. And it turns out that all of the XML functionality and Internet Explorer wasn't supporting Safari. So people are like re implementing like XML parsers. And it was just like this like pile of s**t.[00:10:11] Bret: And I had to say a s**t on your part. Yeah, of[00:10:12] Alessio: course.[00:10:13] Bret: So. It went from this like beautifully elegant application that everyone was proud of to something that probably had hundreds of K of JavaScript, which sounds like nothing. Now we're talking like people have modems, you know, not all modems, but it was a big deal.[00:10:29] Bret: So it was like slow. It took a while to load and just, it wasn't like a great code base. Like everything was fragile. So I just got. Super frustrated by it. And then one weekend I did rewrite all of it. And at the time the word JSON hadn't been coined yet too, just to give you a sense. So it's all XML.[00:10:47] swyx: Yeah.[00:10:47] Bret: So we used what is now you would call JSON, but I just said like, let's use eval so that we can parse the data fast. And, and again, that's, it would literally as JSON, but at the time there was no name for it. So we [00:11:00] just said, let's. Pass on JavaScript from the server and eval it. And then somebody just refactored the whole thing.[00:11:05] Bret: And, and it wasn't like I was some genius. It was just like, you know, if you knew everything you wished you had known at the beginning and I knew all the functionality, cause I was the primary, one of the primary authors of the JavaScript. And I just like, I just drank a lot of coffee and just stayed up all weekend.[00:11:22] Bret: And then I, I guess I developed a bit of reputation and no one knew about this for a long time. And then Paul who created Gmail and I ended up starting a company with him too, after all of this told this on a podcast and now it's large, but it's largely true. I did rewrite it and it, my proudest thing.[00:11:38] Bret: And I think JavaScript people appreciate this. Like the un G zipped bundle size for all of Google maps. When I rewrote, it was 20 K G zipped. It was like much smaller for the entire application. It went down by like 10 X. So. What happened on Google? Google is a pretty mainstream company. And so like our usage is shot up because it turns out like it's faster.[00:11:57] Bret: Just being faster is worth a lot of [00:12:00] percentage points of growth at a scale of Google. So how[00:12:03] swyx: much modern tooling did you have? Like test suites no compilers.[00:12:07] Bret: Actually, that's not true. We did it one thing. So I actually think Google, I, you can. Download it. There's a, Google has a closure compiler, a closure compiler.[00:12:15] Bret: I don't know if anyone still uses it. It's gone. Yeah. Yeah. It's sort of gone out of favor. Yeah. Well, even until recently it was better than most JavaScript minifiers because it was more like it did a lot more renaming of variables and things. Most people use ES build now just cause it's fast and closure compilers built on Java and super slow and stuff like that.[00:12:37] Bret: But, so we did have that, that was it. Okay.[00:12:39] The Evolution of Web Applications[00:12:39] Bret: So and that was treated internally, you know, it was a really interesting time at Google at the time because there's a lot of teams working on fairly advanced JavaScript when no one was. So Google suggest, which Kevin Gibbs was the tech lead for, was the first kind of type ahead, autocomplete, I believe in a web browser, and now it's just pervasive in search boxes that you sort of [00:13:00] see a type ahead there.[00:13:01] Bret: I mean, chat, dbt[00:13:01] swyx: just added it. It's kind of like a round trip.[00:13:03] Bret: Totally. No, it's now pervasive as a UI affordance, but that was like Kevin's 20 percent project. And then Gmail, Paul you know, he tells the story better than anyone, but he's like, you know, basically was scratching his own itch, but what was really neat about it is email, because it's such a productivity tool, just needed to be faster.[00:13:21] Bret: So, you know, he was scratching his own itch of just making more stuff work on the client side. And then we, because of Lars and Yen sort of like setting the bar of this windows app or like we need our maps to be draggable. So we ended up. Not only innovate in terms of having a big sync, what would be called a single page application today, but also all the graphical stuff you know, we were crashing Firefox, like it was going out of style because, you know, when you make a document object model with the idea that it's a document and then you layer on some JavaScript and then we're essentially abusing all of this, it just was running into code paths that were not.[00:13:56] Bret: Well, it's rotten, you know, at this time. And so it was [00:14:00] super fun. And, and, you know, in the building you had, so you had compilers, people helping minify JavaScript just practically, but there is a great engineering team. So they were like, that's why Closure Compiler is so good. It was like a. Person who actually knew about programming languages doing it, not just, you know, writing regular expressions.[00:14:17] Bret: And then the team that is now the Chrome team believe, and I, I don't know this for a fact, but I'm pretty sure Google is the main contributor to Firefox for a long time in terms of code. And a lot of browser people were there. So every time we would crash Firefox, we'd like walk up two floors and say like, what the hell is going on here?[00:14:35] Bret: And they would load their browser, like in a debugger. And we could like figure out exactly what was breaking. And you can't change the code, right? Cause it's the browser. It's like slow, right? I mean, slow to update. So, but we could figure out exactly where the bug was and then work around it in our JavaScript.[00:14:52] Bret: So it was just like new territory. Like so super, super fun time, just like a lot of, a lot of great engineers figuring out [00:15:00] new things. And And now, you know, the word, this term is no longer in fashion, but the word Ajax, which was asynchronous JavaScript and XML cause I'm telling you XML, but see the word XML there, to be fair, the way you made HTTP requests from a client to server was this.[00:15:18] Bret: Object called XML HTTP request because Microsoft and making Outlook web access back in the day made this and it turns out to have nothing to do with XML. It's just a way of making HTTP requests because XML was like the fashionable thing. It was like that was the way you, you know, you did it. But the JSON came out of that, you know, and then a lot of the best practices around building JavaScript applications is pre React.[00:15:44] Bret: I think React was probably the big conceptual step forward that we needed. Even my first social network after Google, we used a lot of like HTML injection and. Making real time updates was still very hand coded and it's really neat when you [00:16:00] see conceptual breakthroughs like react because it's, I just love those things where it's like obvious once you see it, but it's so not obvious until you do.[00:16:07] Bret: And actually, well, I'm sure we'll get into AI, but I, I sort of feel like we'll go through that evolution with AI agents as well that I feel like we're missing a lot of the core abstractions that I think in 10 years we'll be like, gosh, how'd you make agents? Before that, you know, but it was kind of that early days of web applications.[00:16:22] swyx: There's a lot of contenders for the reactive jobs of of AI, but no clear winner yet. I would say one thing I was there for, I mean, there's so much we can go into there. You just covered so much.[00:16:32] Product Management and Engineering Synergy[00:16:32] swyx: One thing I just, I just observe is that I think the early Google days had this interesting mix of PM and engineer, which I think you are, you didn't, you didn't wait for PM to tell you these are my, this is my PRD.[00:16:42] swyx: This is my requirements.[00:16:44] mix: Oh,[00:16:44] Bret: okay.[00:16:45] swyx: I wasn't technically a software engineer. I mean,[00:16:48] Bret: by title, obviously. Right, right, right.[00:16:51] swyx: It's like a blend. And I feel like these days, product is its own discipline and its own lore and own industry and engineering is its own thing. And there's this process [00:17:00] that happens and they're kind of separated, but you don't produce as good of a product as if they were the same person.[00:17:06] swyx: And I'm curious, you know, if, if that, if that sort of resonates in, in, in terms of like comparing early Google versus modern startups that you see out there,[00:17:16] Bret: I certainly like wear a lot of hats. So, you know, sort of biased in this, but I really agree that there's a lot of power and combining product design engineering into as few people as possible because, you know few great things have been created by committee, you know, and so.[00:17:33] Bret: If engineering is an order taking organization for product you can sometimes make meaningful things, but rarely will you create extremely well crafted breakthrough products. Those tend to be small teams who deeply understand the customer need that they're solving, who have a. Maniacal focus on outcomes.[00:17:53] Bret: And I think the reason why it's, I think for some areas, if you look at like software as a service five years ago, maybe you can have a [00:18:00] separation of product and engineering because most software as a service created five years ago. I wouldn't say there's like a lot of like. Technological breakthroughs required for most, you know, business applications.[00:18:11] Bret: And if you're making expense reporting software or whatever, it's useful. I don't mean to be dismissive of expense reporting software, but you probably just want to understand like, what are the requirements of the finance department? What are the requirements of an individual file expense report? Okay.[00:18:25] Bret: Go implement that. And you kind of know how web applications are implemented. You kind of know how to. How databases work, how to build auto scaling with your AWS cluster, whatever, you know, it's just, you're just applying best practices to yet another problem when you have areas like the early days of mobile development or the early days of interactive web applications, which I think Google Maps and Gmail represent, or now AI agents, you're in this constant conversation with what the requirements of your customers and stakeholders are and all the different people interacting with it.[00:18:58] Bret: And the capabilities of the [00:19:00] technology. And it's almost impossible to specify the requirements of a product when you're not sure of the limitations of the technology itself. And that's why I use the word conversation. It's not literal. That's sort of funny to use that word in the age of conversational AI.[00:19:15] Bret: You're constantly sort of saying, like, ideally, you could sprinkle some magic AI pixie dust and solve all the world's problems, but it's not the way it works. And it turns out that actually, I'll just give an interesting example.[00:19:26] AI Agents and Modern Tooling[00:19:26] Bret: I think most people listening probably use co pilots to code like Cursor or Devon or Microsoft Copilot or whatever.[00:19:34] Bret: Most of those tools are, they're remarkable. I'm, I couldn't, you know, imagine development without them now, but they're not autonomous yet. Like I wouldn't let it just write most code without my interactively inspecting it. We just are somewhere between it's an amazing co pilot and it's an autonomous software engineer.[00:19:53] Bret: As a product manager, like your aspirations for what the product is are like kind of meaningful. But [00:20:00] if you're a product person, yeah, of course you'd say it should be autonomous. You should click a button and program should come out the other side. The requirements meaningless. Like what matters is like, what is based on the like very nuanced limitations of the technology.[00:20:14] Bret: What is it capable of? And then how do you maximize the leverage? It gives a software engineering team, given those very nuanced trade offs. Coupled with the fact that those nuanced trade offs are changing more rapidly than any technology in my memory, meaning every few months you'll have new models with new capabilities.[00:20:34] Bret: So how do you construct a product that can absorb those new capabilities as rapidly as possible as well? That requires such a combination of technical depth and understanding the customer that you really need more integration. Of product design and engineering. And so I think it's why with these big technology waves, I think startups have a bit of a leg up relative to incumbents because they [00:21:00] tend to be sort of more self actualized in terms of just like bringing those disciplines closer together.[00:21:06] Bret: And in particular, I think entrepreneurs, the proverbial full stack engineers, you know, have a leg up as well because. I think most breakthroughs happen when you have someone who can understand those extremely nuanced technical trade offs, have a vision for a product. And then in the process of building it, have that, as I said, like metaphorical conversation with the technology, right?[00:21:30] Bret: Gosh, I ran into a technical limit that I didn't expect. It's not just like changing that feature. You might need to refactor the whole product based on that. And I think that's, that it's particularly important right now. So I don't, you know, if you, if you're building a big ERP system, probably there's a great reason to have product and engineering.[00:21:51] Bret: I think in general, the disciplines are there for a reason. I think when you're dealing with something as nuanced as the like technologies, like large language models today, there's a ton of [00:22:00] advantage of having. Individuals or organizations that integrate the disciplines more formally.[00:22:05] Alessio: That makes a lot of sense.[00:22:06] Alessio: I've run a lot of engineering teams in the past, and I think the product versus engineering tension has always been more about effort than like whether or not the feature is buildable. But I think, yeah, today you see a lot more of like. Models actually cannot do that. And I think the most interesting thing is on the startup side, people don't yet know where a lot of the AI value is going to accrue.[00:22:26] Alessio: So you have this rush of people building frameworks, building infrastructure, layered things, but we don't really know the shape of the compute. I'm curious that Sierra, like how you thought about building an house, a lot of the tooling for evals or like just, you know, building the agents and all of that.[00:22:41] Alessio: Versus how you see some of the startup opportunities that is maybe still out there.[00:22:46] Bret: We build most of our tooling in house at Sierra, not all. It's, we don't, it's not like not invented here syndrome necessarily, though, maybe slightly guilty of that in some ways, but because we're trying to build a platform [00:23:00] that's in Dorian, you know, we really want to have control over our own destiny.[00:23:03] Bret: And you had made a comment earlier that like. We're still trying to figure out who like the reactive agents are and the jury is still out. I would argue it hasn't been created yet. I don't think the jury is still out to go use that metaphor. We're sort of in the jQuery era of agents, not the react era.[00:23:19] Bret: And, and that's like a throwback for people listening,[00:23:22] swyx: we shouldn't rush it. You know?[00:23:23] Bret: No, yeah, that's my point is. And so. Because we're trying to create an enduring company at Sierra that outlives us, you know, I'm not sure we want to like attach our cart to some like to a horse where it's not clear that like we've figured out and I actually want as a company, we're trying to enable just at a high level and I'll, I'll quickly go back to tech at Sierra, we help consumer brands build customer facing AI agents.[00:23:48] Bret: So. Everyone from Sonos to ADT home security to Sirius XM, you know, if you call them on the phone and AI will pick up with you, you know, chat with them on the Sirius XM homepage. It's an AI agent called Harmony [00:24:00] that they've built on our platform. We're what are the contours of what it means for someone to build an end to end complete customer experience with AI with conversational AI.[00:24:09] Bret: You know, we really want to dive into the deep end of, of all the trade offs to do it. You know, where do you use fine tuning? Where do you string models together? You know, where do you use reasoning? Where do you use generation? How do you use reasoning? How do you express the guardrails of an agentic process?[00:24:25] Bret: How do you impose determinism on a fundamentally non deterministic technology? There's just a lot of really like as an important design space. And I could sit here and tell you, we have the best approach. Every entrepreneur will, you know. But I hope that in two years, we look back at our platform and laugh at how naive we were, because that's the pace of change broadly.[00:24:45] Bret: If you talk about like the startup opportunities, I'm not wholly skeptical of tools companies, but I'm fairly skeptical. There's always an exception for every role, but I believe that certainly there's a big market for [00:25:00] frontier models, but largely for companies with huge CapEx budgets. So. Open AI and Microsoft's Anthropic and Amazon Web Services, Google Cloud XAI, which is very well capitalized now, but I think the, the idea that a company can make money sort of pre training a foundation model is probably not true.[00:25:20] Bret: It's hard to, you're competing with just, you know, unreasonably large CapEx budgets. And I just like the cloud infrastructure market, I think will be largely there. I also really believe in the applications of AI. And I define that not as like building agents or things like that. I define it much more as like, you're actually solving a problem for a business.[00:25:40] Bret: So it's what Harvey is doing in legal profession or what cursor is doing for software engineering or what we're doing for customer experience and customer service. The reason I believe in that is I do think that in the age of AI, what's really interesting about software is it can actually complete a task.[00:25:56] Bret: It can actually do a job, which is very different than the value proposition of [00:26:00] software was to ancient history two years ago. And as a consequence, I think the way you build a solution and For a domain is very different than you would have before, which means that it's not obvious, like the incumbent incumbents have like a leg up, you know, necessarily, they certainly have some advantages, but there's just such a different form factor, you know, for providing a solution and it's just really valuable.[00:26:23] Bret: You know, it's. Like just think of how much money cursor is saving software engineering teams or the alternative, how much revenue it can produce tool making is really challenging. If you look at the cloud market, just as a analog, there are a lot of like interesting tools, companies, you know, Confluent, Monetized Kafka, Snowflake, Hortonworks, you know, there's a, there's a bunch of them.[00:26:48] Bret: A lot of them, you know, have that mix of sort of like like confluence or have the open source or open core or whatever you call it. I, I, I'm not an expert in this area. You know, I do think [00:27:00] that developers are fickle. I think that in the tool space, I probably like. Default towards open source being like the area that will win.[00:27:09] Bret: It's hard to build a company around this and then you end up with companies sort of built around open source to that can work. Don't get me wrong, but I just think that it's nowadays the tools are changing so rapidly that I'm like, not totally skeptical of tool makers, but I just think that open source will broadly win, but I think that the CapEx required for building frontier models is such that it will go to a handful of big companies.[00:27:33] Bret: And then I really believe in agents for specific domains which I think will, it's sort of the analog to software as a service in this new era. You know, it's like, if you just think of the cloud. You can lease a server. It's just a low level primitive, or you can buy an app like you know, Shopify or whatever.[00:27:51] Bret: And most people building a storefront would prefer Shopify over hand rolling their e commerce storefront. I think the same thing will be true of AI. So [00:28:00] I've. I tend to like, if I have a, like an entrepreneur asked me for advice, I'm like, you know, move up the stack as far as you can towards a customer need.[00:28:09] Bret: Broadly, but I, but it doesn't reduce my excitement about what is the reactive building agents kind of thing, just because it is, it is the right question to ask, but I think we'll probably play out probably an open source space more than anything else.[00:28:21] swyx: Yeah, and it's not a priority for you. There's a lot in there.[00:28:24] swyx: I'm kind of curious about your idea maze towards, there are many customer needs. You happen to identify customer experience as yours, but it could equally have been coding assistance or whatever. I think for some, I'm just kind of curious at the top down, how do you look at the world in terms of the potential problem space?[00:28:44] swyx: Because there are many people out there who are very smart and pick the wrong problem.[00:28:47] Bret: Yeah, that's a great question.[00:28:48] Future of Software Development[00:28:48] Bret: By the way, I would love to talk about the future of software, too, because despite the fact it didn't pick coding, I have a lot of that, but I can talk to I can answer your question, though, you know I think when a technology is as [00:29:00] cool as large language models.[00:29:02] Bret: You just see a lot of people starting from the technology and searching for a problem to solve. And I think it's why you see a lot of tools companies, because as a software engineer, you start building an app or a demo and you, you encounter some pain points. You're like,[00:29:17] swyx: a lot of[00:29:17] Bret: people are experiencing the same pain point.[00:29:19] Bret: What if I make it? That it's just very incremental. And you know, I always like to use the metaphor, like you can sell coffee beans, roasted coffee beans. You can add some value. You took coffee beans and you roasted them and roasted coffee beans largely, you know, are priced relative to the cost of the beans.[00:29:39] Bret: Or you can sell a latte and a latte. Is rarely priced directly like as a percentage of coffee bean prices. In fact, if you buy a latte at the airport, it's a captive audience. So it's a really expensive latte. And there's just a lot that goes into like. How much does a latte cost? And I bring it up because there's a supply chain from growing [00:30:00] coffee beans to roasting coffee beans to like, you know, you could make one at home or you could be in the airport and buy one and the margins of the company selling lattes in the airport is a lot higher than the, you know, people roasting the coffee beans and it's because you've actually solved a much more acute human problem in the airport.[00:30:19] Bret: And, and it's just worth a lot more to that person in that moment. It's kind of the way I think about technology too. It sounds funny to liken it to coffee beans, but you're selling tools on top of a large language model yet in some ways your market is big, but you're probably going to like be price compressed just because you're sort of a piece of infrastructure and then you have open source and all these other things competing with you naturally.[00:30:43] Bret: If you go and solve a really big business problem for somebody, that's actually like a meaningful business problem that AI facilitates, they will value it according to the value of that business problem. And so I actually feel like people should just stop. You're like, no, that's, that's [00:31:00] unfair. If you're searching for an idea of people, I, I love people trying things, even if, I mean, most of the, a lot of the greatest ideas have been things no one believed in.[00:31:07] Bret: So I like, if you're passionate about something, go do it. Like who am I to say, yeah, a hundred percent. Or Gmail, like Paul as far, I mean I, some of it's Laura at this point, but like Gmail is Paul's own email for a long time. , and then I amusingly and Paul can't correct me, I'm pretty sure he sent her in a link and like the first comment was like, this is really neat.[00:31:26] Bret: It would be great. It was not your email, but my own . I don't know if it's a true story. I'm pretty sure it's, yeah, I've read that before. So scratch your own niche. Fine. Like it depends on what your goal is. If you wanna do like a venture backed company, if its a. Passion project, f*****g passion, do it like don't listen to anybody.[00:31:41] Bret: In fact, but if you're trying to start, you know an enduring company, solve an important business problem. And I, and I do think that in the world of agents, the software industries has shifted where you're not just helping people more. People be more productive, but you're actually accomplishing tasks autonomously.[00:31:58] Bret: And as a consequence, I think the [00:32:00] addressable market has just greatly expanded just because software can actually do things now and actually accomplish tasks and how much is coding autocomplete worth. A fair amount. How much is the eventual, I'm certain we'll have it, the software agent that actually writes the code and delivers it to you, that's worth a lot.[00:32:20] Bret: And so, you know, I would just maybe look up from the large language models and start thinking about the economy and, you know, think from first principles. I don't wanna get too far afield, but just think about which parts of the economy. We'll benefit most from this intelligence and which parts can absorb it most easily.[00:32:38] Bret: And what would an agent in this space look like? Who's the customer of it is the technology feasible. And I would just start with these business problems more. And I think, you know, the best companies tend to have great engineers who happen to have great insight into a market. And it's that last part that I think some people.[00:32:56] Bret: Whether or not they have, it's like people start so much in the technology, they [00:33:00] lose the forest for the trees a little bit.[00:33:02] Alessio: How do you think about the model of still selling some sort of software versus selling more package labor? I feel like when people are selling the package labor, it's almost more stateless, you know, like it's easier to swap out if you're just putting an input and getting an output.[00:33:16] Alessio: If you think about coding, if there's no ID, you're just putting a prompt and getting back an app. It doesn't really matter. Who generates the app, you know, you have less of a buy in versus the platform you're building, I'm sure on the backend customers have to like put on their documentation and they have, you know, different workflows that they can tie in what's kind of like the line to draw there versus like going full where you're managed customer support team as a service outsource versus.[00:33:40] Alessio: This is the Sierra platform that you can build on. What was that decision? I'll sort of[00:33:44] Bret: like decouple the question in some ways, which is when you have something that's an agent, who is the person using it and what do they want to do with it? So let's just take your coding agent for a second. I will talk about Sierra as well.[00:33:59] Bret: Who's the [00:34:00] customer of a, an agent that actually produces software? Is it a software engineering manager? Is it a software engineer? And it's there, you know, intern so to speak. I don't know. I mean, we'll figure this out over the next few years. Like what is that? And is it generating code that you then review?[00:34:16] Bret: Is it generating code with a set of unit tests that pass, what is the actual. For lack of a better word contract, like, how do you know that it did what you wanted it to do? And then I would say like the product and the pricing, the packaging model sort of emerged from that. And I don't think the world's figured out.[00:34:33] Bret: I think it'll be different for every agent. You know, in our customer base, we do what's called outcome based pricing. So essentially every time the AI agent. Solves the problem or saves a customer or whatever it might be. There's a pre negotiated rate for that. We do that. Cause it's, we think that that's sort of the correct way agents, you know, should be packaged.[00:34:53] Bret: I look back at the history of like cloud software and notably the introduction of the browser, which led to [00:35:00] software being delivered in a browser, like Salesforce to. Famously invented sort of software as a service, which is both a technical delivery model through the browser, but also a business model, which is you subscribe to it rather than pay for a perpetual license.[00:35:13] Bret: Those two things are somewhat orthogonal, but not really. If you think about the idea of software running in a browser, that's hosted. Data center that you don't own, you sort of needed to change the business model because you don't, you can't really buy a perpetual license or something otherwise like, how do you afford making changes to it?[00:35:31] Bret: So it only worked when you were buying like a new version every year or whatever. So to some degree, but then the business model shift actually changed business as we know it, because now like. Things like Adobe Photoshop. Now you subscribe to rather than purchase. So it ended up where you had a technical shift and a business model shift that were very logically intertwined that actually the business model shift was turned out to be as significant as the technical as the shift.[00:35:59] Bret: And I think with [00:36:00] agents, because they actually accomplish a job, I do think that it doesn't make sense to me that you'd pay for the privilege of like. Using the software like that coding agent, like if it writes really bad code, like fire it, you know, I don't know what the right metaphor is like you should pay for a job.[00:36:17] Bret: Well done in my opinion. I mean, that's how you pay your software engineers, right? And[00:36:20] swyx: and well, not really. We paid to put them on salary and give them options and they vest over time. That's fair.[00:36:26] Bret: But my point is that you don't pay them for how many characters they write, which is sort of the token based, you know, whatever, like, There's a, that famous Apple story where we're like asking for a report of how many lines of code you wrote.[00:36:40] Bret: And one of the engineers showed up with like a negative number cause he had just like done a big refactoring. There was like a big F you to management who didn't understand how software is written. You know, my sense is like the traditional usage based or seat based thing. It's just going to look really antiquated.[00:36:55] Bret: Cause it's like asking your software engineer, how many lines of code did you write today? Like who cares? Like, cause [00:37:00] absolutely no correlation. So my old view is I don't think it's be different in every category, but I do think that that is the, if an agent is doing a job, you should, I think it properly incentivizes the maker of that agent and the customer of, of your pain for the job well done.[00:37:16] Bret: It's not always perfect to measure. It's hard to measure engineering productivity, but you can, you should do something other than how many keys you typed, you know Talk about perverse incentives for AI, right? Like I can write really long functions to do the same thing, right? So broadly speaking, you know, I do think that we're going to see a change in business models of software towards outcomes.[00:37:36] Bret: And I think you'll see a change in delivery models too. And, and, you know, in our customer base you know, we empower our customers to really have their hands on the steering wheel of what the agent does they, they want and need that. But the role is different. You know, at a lot of our customers, the customer experience operations folks have renamed themselves the AI architects, which I think is really cool.[00:37:55] Bret: And, you know, it's like in the early days of the Internet, there's the role of the webmaster. [00:38:00] And I don't know whether your webmaster is not a fashionable, you know, Term, nor is it a job anymore? I just, I don't know. Will they, our tech stand the test of time? Maybe, maybe not. But I do think that again, I like, you know, because everyone listening right now is a software engineer.[00:38:14] Bret: Like what is the form factor of a coding agent? And actually I'll, I'll take a breath. Cause actually I have a bunch of pins on them. Like I wrote a blog post right before Christmas, just on the future of software development. And one of the things that's interesting is like, if you look at the way I use cursor today, as an example, it's inside of.[00:38:31] Bret: A repackaged visual studio code environment. I sometimes use the sort of agentic parts of it, but it's largely, you know, I've sort of gotten a good routine of making it auto complete code in the way I want through tuning it properly when it actually can write. I do wonder what like the future of development environments will look like.[00:38:55] Bret: And to your point on what is a software product, I think it's going to change a lot in [00:39:00] ways that will surprise us. But I always use, I use the metaphor in my blog post of, have you all driven around in a way, Mo around here? Yeah, everyone has. And there are these Jaguars, the really nice cars, but it's funny because it still has a steering wheel, even though there's no one sitting there and the steering wheels like turning and stuff clearly in the future.[00:39:16] Bret: If once we get to that, be more ubiquitous, like why have the steering wheel and also why have all the seats facing forward? Maybe just for car sickness. I don't know, but you could totally rearrange the car. I mean, so much of the car is oriented around the driver, so. It stands to reason to me that like, well, autonomous agents for software engineering run through visual studio code.[00:39:37] Bret: That seems a little bit silly because having a single source code file open one at a time is kind of a goofy form factor for when like the code isn't being written primarily by you, but it begs the question of what's your relationship with that agent. And I think the same is true in our industry of customer experience, which is like.[00:39:55] Bret: Who are the people managing this agent? What are the tools do they need? And they definitely need [00:40:00] tools, but it's probably pretty different than the tools we had before. It's certainly different than training a contact center team. And as software engineers, I think that I would like to see particularly like on the passion project side or research side.[00:40:14] Bret: More innovation in programming languages. I think that we're bringing the cost of writing code down to zero. So the fact that we're still writing Python with AI cracks me up just cause it's like literally was designed to be ergonomic to write, not safe to run or fast to run. I would love to see more innovation and how we verify program correctness.[00:40:37] Bret: I studied for formal verification in college a little bit and. It's not very fashionable because it's really like tedious and slow and doesn't work very well. If a lot of code is being written by a machine, you know, one of the primary values we can provide is verifying that it actually does what we intend that it does.[00:40:56] Bret: I think there should be lots of interesting things in the software development life cycle, like how [00:41:00] we think of testing and everything else, because. If you think about if we have to manually read every line of code that's coming out as machines, it will just rate limit how much the machines can do. The alternative is totally unsafe.[00:41:13] Bret: So I wouldn't want to put code in production that didn't go through proper code review and inspection. So my whole view is like, I actually think there's like an AI native I don't think the coding agents don't work well enough to do this yet, but once they do, what is sort of an AI native software development life cycle and how do you actually.[00:41:31] Bret: Enable the creators of software to produce the highest quality, most robust, fastest software and know that it's correct. And I think that's an incredible opportunity. I mean, how much C code can we rewrite and rust and make it safe so that there's fewer security vulnerabilities. Can we like have more efficient, safer code than ever before?[00:41:53] Bret: And can you have someone who's like that guy in the matrix, you know, like staring at the little green things, like where could you have an operator [00:42:00] of a code generating machine be like superhuman? I think that's a cool vision. And I think too many people are focused on like. Autocomplete, you know, right now, I'm not, I'm not even, I'm guilty as charged.[00:42:10] Bret: I guess in some ways, but I just like, I'd like to see some bolder ideas. And that's why when you were joking, you know, talking about what's the react of whatever, I think we're clearly in a local maximum, you know, metaphor, like sort of conceptual local maximum, obviously it's moving really fast. I think we're moving out of it.[00:42:26] Alessio: Yeah. At the end of 23, I've read this blog post from syntax to semantics. Like if you think about Python. It's taking C and making it more semantic and LLMs are like the ultimate semantic program, right? You can just talk to them and they can generate any type of syntax from your language. But again, the languages that they have to use were made for us, not for them.[00:42:46] Alessio: But the problem is like, as long as you will ever need a human to intervene, you cannot change the language under it. You know what I mean? So I'm curious at what point of automation we'll need to get, we're going to be okay making changes. To the underlying languages, [00:43:00] like the programming languages versus just saying, Hey, you just got to write Python because I understand Python and I'm more important at the end of the day than the model.[00:43:08] Alessio: But I think that will change, but I don't know if it's like two years or five years. I think it's more nuanced actually.[00:43:13] Bret: So I think there's a, some of the more interesting programming languages bring semantics into syntax. So let me, that's a little reductive, but like Rust as an example, Rust is memory safe.[00:43:25] Bret: Statically, and that was a really interesting conceptual, but it's why it's hard to write rust. It's why most people write python instead of rust. I think rust programs are safer and faster than python, probably slower to compile. But like broadly speaking, like given the option, if you didn't have to care about the labor that went into it.[00:43:45] Bret: You should prefer a program written in Rust over a program written in Python, just because it will run more efficiently. It's almost certainly safer, et cetera, et cetera, depending on how you define safe, but most people don't write Rust because it's kind of a pain in the ass. And [00:44:00] the audience of people who can is smaller, but it's sort of better in most, most ways.[00:44:05] Bret: And again, let's say you're making a web service and you didn't have to care about how hard it was to write. If you just got the output of the web service, the rest one would be cheaper to operate. It's certainly cheaper and probably more correct just because there's so much in the static analysis implied by the rest programming language that it probably will have fewer runtime errors and things like that as well.[00:44:25] Bret: So I just give that as an example, because so rust, at least my understanding that came out of the Mozilla team, because. There's lots of security vulnerabilities in the browser and it needs to be really fast. They said, okay, we want to put more of a burden at the authorship time to have fewer issues at runtime.[00:44:43] Bret: And we need the constraint that it has to be done statically because browsers need to be really fast. My sense is if you just think about like the, the needs of a programming language today, where the role of a software engineer is [00:45:00] to use an AI to generate functionality and audit that it does in fact work as intended, maybe functionally, maybe from like a correctness standpoint, some combination thereof, how would you create a programming system that facilitated that?[00:45:15] Bret: And, you know, I bring up Rust is because I think it's a good example of like, I think given a choice of writing in C or Rust, you should choose Rust today. I think most people would say that, even C aficionados, just because. C is largely less safe for very similar, you know, trade offs, you know, for the, the system and now with AI, it's like, okay, well, that just changes the game on writing these things.[00:45:36] Bret: And so like, I just wonder if a combination of programming languages that are more structurally oriented towards the values that we need from an AI generated program, verifiable correctness and all of that. If it's tedious to produce for a person, that maybe doesn't matter. But one thing, like if I asked you, is this rest program memory safe?[00:45:58] Bret: You wouldn't have to read it, you just have [00:46:00] to compile it. So that's interesting. I mean, that's like an, that's one example of a very modest form of formal verification. So I bring that up because I do think you have AI inspect AI, you can have AI reviewed. Do AI code reviews. It would disappoint me if the best we could get was AI reviewing Python and having scaled a few very large.[00:46:21] Bret: Websites that were written on Python. It's just like, you know, expensive and it's like every, trust me, every team who's written a big web service in Python has experimented with like Pi Pi and all these things just to make it slightly more efficient than it naturally is. You don't really have true multi threading anyway.[00:46:36] Bret: It's just like clearly that you do it just because it's convenient to write. And I just feel like we're, I don't want to say it's insane. I just mean. I do think we're at a local maximum. And I would hope that we create a programming system, a combination of programming languages, formal verification, testing, automated code reviews, where you can use AI to generate software in a high scale way and trust it.[00:46:59] Bret: And you're [00:47:00] not limited by your ability to read it necessarily. I don't know exactly what form that would take, but I feel like that would be a pretty cool world to live in.[00:47:08] Alessio: Yeah. We had Chris Lanner on the podcast. He's doing great work with modular. I mean, I love. LVM. Yeah. Basically merging rust in and Python.[00:47:15] Alessio: That's kind of the idea. Should be, but I'm curious is like, for them a big use case was like making it compatible with Python, same APIs so that Python developers could use it. Yeah. And so I, I wonder at what point, well, yeah.[00:47:26] Bret: At least my understanding is they're targeting the data science Yeah. Machine learning crowd, which is all written in Python, so still feels like a local maximum.[00:47:34] Bret: Yeah.[00:47:34] swyx: Yeah, exactly. I'll force you to make a prediction. You know, Python's roughly 30 years old. In 30 years from now, is Rust going to be bigger than Python?[00:47:42] Bret: I don't know this, but just, I don't even know this is a prediction. I just am sort of like saying stuff I hope is true. I would like to see an AI native programming language and programming system, and I use language because I'm not sure language is even the right thing, but I hope in 30 years, there's an AI native way we make [00:48:00] software that is wholly uncorrelated with the current set of programming languages.[00:48:04] Bret: or not uncorrelated, but I think most programming languages today were designed to be efficiently authored by people and some have different trade offs.[00:48:15] Evolution of Programming Languages[00:48:15] Bret: You know, you have Haskell and others that were designed for abstractions for parallelism and things like that. You have programming languages like Python, which are designed to be very easily written, sort of like Perl and Python lineage, which is why data scientists use it.[00:48:31] Bret: It's it can, it has a. Interactive mode, things like that. And I love, I'm a huge Python fan. So despite all my Python trash talk, a huge Python fan wrote at least two of my three companies were exclusively written in Python and then C came out of the birth of Unix and it wasn't the first, but certainly the most prominent first step after assembly language, right?[00:48:54] Bret: Where you had higher level abstractions rather than and going beyond go to, to like abstractions, [00:49:00] like the for loop and the while loop.[00:49:01] The Future of Software Engineering[00:49:01] Bret: So I just think that if the act of writing code is no longer a meaningful human exercise, maybe it will be, I don't know. I'm just saying it sort of feels like maybe it's one of those parts of history that just will sort of like go away, but there's still the role of this offer engineer, like the person actually building the system.[00:49:20] Bret: Right. And. What does a programming system for that form factor look like?[00:49:25] React and Front-End Development[00:49:25] Bret: And I, I just have a, I hope to be just like I mentioned, I remember I was at Facebook in the very early days when, when, what is now react was being created. And I remember when the, it was like released open source I had left by that time and I was just like, this is so f*****g cool.[00:49:42] Bret: Like, you know, to basically model your app independent of the data flowing through it, just made everything easier. And then now. You know, I can create, like there's a lot of the front end software gym play is like a little chaotic for me, to be honest with you. It is like, it's sort of like [00:50:00] abstraction soup right now for me, but like some of those core ideas felt really ergonomic.[00:50:04] Bret: I just wanna, I'm just looking forward to the day when someone comes up with a programming system that feels both really like an aha moment, but completely foreign to me at the same time. Because they created it with sort of like from first principles recognizing that like. Authoring code in an editor is maybe not like the primary like reason why a programming system exists anymore.[00:50:26] Bret: And I think that's like, that would be a very exciting day for me.[00:50:28] The Role of AI in Programming[00:50:28] swyx: Yeah, I would say like the various versions of this discussion have happened at the end of the day, you still need to precisely communicate what you want. As a manager of people, as someone who has done many, many legal contracts, you know how hard that is.[00:50:42] swyx: And then now we have to talk to machines doing that and AIs interpreting what we mean and reading our minds effectively. I don't know how to get across that barrier of translating human intent to instructions. And yes, it can be more declarative, but I don't know if it'll ever Crossover from being [00:51:00] a programming language to something more than that.[00:51:02] Bret: I agree with you. And I actually do think if you look at like a legal contract, you know, the imprecision of the English language, it's like a flaw in the system. How many[00:51:12] swyx: holes there are.[00:51:13] Bret: And I do think that when you're making a mission critical software system, I don't think it should be English language prompts.[00:51:19] Bret: I think that is silly because you want the precision of a a programming language. My point was less about that and more about if the actual act of authoring it, like if you.[00:51:32] Formal Verification in Software[00:51:32] Bret: I'll think of some embedded systems do use formal verification. I know it's very common in like security protocols now so that you can, because the importance of correctness is so great.[00:51:41] Bret: My intellectual exercise is like, why not do that for all software? I mean, probably that's silly just literally to do what we literally do for. These low level security protocols, but the only reason we don't is because it's hard and tedious and hard and tedious are no longer factors. So, like, if I could, I mean, [00:52:00] just think of, like, the silliest app on your phone right now, the idea that that app should be, like, formally verified for its correctness feels laughable right now because, like, God, why would you spend the time on it?[00:52:10] Bret: But if it's zero costs, like, yeah, I guess so. I mean, it never crashed. That's probably good. You know, why not? I just want to, like, set our bars really high. Like. We should make, software has been amazing. Like there's a Mark Andreessen blog post, software is eating the world. And you know, our whole life is, is mediated digitally.[00:52:26] Bret: And that's just increasing with AI. And now we'll have our personal agents talking to the agents on the CRO platform and it's agents all the way down, you know, our core infrastructure is running on these digital systems. We now have like, and we've had a shortage of software developers for my entire life.[00:52:45] Bret: And as a consequence, you know if you look, remember like health care, got healthcare. gov that fiasco security vulnerabilities leading to state actors getting access to critical infrastructure. I'm like. We now have like created this like amazing system that can [00:53:00] like, we can fix this, you know, and I, I just want to, I'm both excited about the productivity gains in the economy, but I just think as software engineers, we should be bolder.[00:53:08] Bret: Like we should have aspirations to fix these systems so that like in general, as you said, as precise as we want to be in the specification of the system. We can make it work correctly now, and I'm being a little bit hand wavy, and I think we need some systems. I think that's where we should set the bar, especially when so much of our life depends on this critical digital infrastructure.[00:53:28] Bret: So I'm I'm just like super optimistic about it. But actually, let's go to w

Guest: Sal Khan, founder of Khan AcademyAI is poised to change nearly every business, but few are changing as quickly as education. And Sal Khan, who has spend more than a decade manually creating more than 7,000 educational videos, says that's a good thing. He's encouraged Khan Academy to focus on “disrupt[ing] ourselves ... more than almost any other organization that I know of.” The reason is backed up by the data: Personalized tutors — designed to help students achieve mastery in a subject, but previously thought to be unscalable — could shift the educational bell curve “significantly to the right,” Sal says.Chapters:(00:52) - John and Ann Doerr (05:20) - Khan Academy's origins (07:42) - What it is now (12:43) - Emotional fortitude (15:25) - Generating revenue (19:36) - The two-sigma “problem” (21:31) - OpenAI and Sam Altman (24:47) - What AI can do (27:56) - Cheating and other fears (30:06) - Video production (34:08) - Standardized tests (38:36) - AI tutors' tone (40:22) - Not leaving the closet (43:20) - Who Khan Academy is hiring (45:58) - What “grit” means to Sal Mentioned in this episode: Nasdaq, Dan Wohl, Vedic and Buddhist literature, Microsoft, Benjamin Bloom, ChatGPT, the Turing Test, Greg Brockman, Donald Trump, Bing Chat and Sydney, Khanmigo, the SAT and ACT, Schoolhouse.world, Craig Silverstein and Google, John Resig and jQuery, and Angela Duckworth.Links:Connect with SalTwitterLinkedInConnect with JoubinTwitterLinkedInEmail: grit@kleinerperkins.com Learn more about Kleiner PerkinsThis episode was edited by Eric Johnson from LightningPod.fm