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After dropping a few hints here and there, Dave finally asks Mike the big question: what are you looking for in your next business? After getting into the mindset of selling all of my brands and getting back to the part of Amazon FBA that I really enjoy, I realized that it's not as fun as it used to be with my current business. I am trying to build it for the eventual sale, and after start a new business that's still within e-commerce. As most of you have probably noticed, I've dropped a few hints here and there about starting a new brand, and what better way to do so than discuss it with Dave on today's podcast! In this episode, we'll discuss a few criteria on what I would want my next venture to be, and whether Dave thinks they're unrealistic, or downright wishful thinking. Here's some timestamps to get you started: Introduction - 0:00 How was BFCM for you, Mike? - 0:53 The next project for Mike - 3:56 Struggles that Mike's trying to avoid in the future - 5:24 Mike's checklist for his next business - 12:17 Priorities with higher margins - 12:56 Increasing repeat business - 18:27 Products that work multi-platform - 24:47 A defensible moat around the business - 30:31 Making complexity an opportunity - 34:30 When is the new business getting started? - 36:39 I hope this is super helpful for those out there who are thinking of expanding their brand portfolio or starting a new business. If you are, leave a comment below on what you think your next business would ideally look like! As always, if you have any questions or anything that you need help with, reach out to us at firstname.lastname@example.org if you're interested. Don't forget to leave us a review on iTunes if you enjoy our content. If you have any questions, send us an email at email@example.com. We'd love to help you in any way we can. Full Audio Transcript Mike Jackness: This is Mike and welcome to this edition of the Ecom Crew podcast. How's it going, Dave? Doing good. We're doing some recordings here after American Thanksgiving. So I feel I feel full and thankful, I guess. And yeah, we're doing some podcasts today. DJ: This is Dave. DJ: I'm doing well, how about you? DJ: How was your Amazon balance though? Is that full and thankful after Black Friday? Mike Jackness (00:28.134) Not really. It was not a real great Black Friday, Summer Monday for us, but it never really is with the brand that I kept. I didn't really expect to have a huge Black Friday, Summer Monday. In fact, I didn't even open up my app over the weekend because I was like, I don't want to see it. Just because we didn't run any Black Friday deals. I mean, we talked a little bit about this on the podcast over this year. And so, I mean, hot and cold therapy packs are not giftable items. They're not the type of thing that people buy and gift them. There were lots of people in my space running Black Friday, Supper Monday deals. I imagine they just got crushed in terms of paying a lot of fees and giving up margin. I don't even remotely see how it's feasible. I mean, I see all these deals running. I mean, they're paying $300, $500 or more per deal, giving up a bunch of margin. DJ (01:10.195) Yep. DJ (01:15.27) No, I don't either. Mike Jackness (01:23.182) I can barely make it without even doing that. I just assume that they're losing money just to have an ego boost and that isn't interesting to me. We just go in a little bit of hibernation for this part of the year for this business. From late November to early January is just a dead zone for us. Early January things have to really pick back up. Going into the spring becomes our best months. Just roll in with what we have. When we had other businesses, we focused a lot on Black Friday and Summer Monday. We sold our baby brand this year. I'm sure they had a really great Black Friday, Summer Monday. We've sold color. That was always my favorite time of the year, although it was stressful. Black Friday, Summer Monday, huge for that. But for a hot and cold therapy brand, it's like, oh, you got me a ice pack for my back. Thank you so much. Maybe there is someone out there looking for that, but I don't think it's exactly the giftable thing. DJ (02:21.985) Yeah. DJ (02:26.573) Well, it is kind of a scenario of rising tide raises all boats and sure people aren't on there to buy hot and cold therapy pack, but they're on there to buy a toy for their daughter and hey, oh, by the way, I need to that ache on my back. I need to get something for that too. So you do get that. So I know for like our off-roading brand, it was up, I guess, about 30 or 40% over a typical Friday. So nothing crazy, but it was up. And I think that's just a case again of that rising tide. The craft brand that we have, that looked like it was up about Mike Jackness (02:40.098) Right. DJ (02:56.209) two and a half X, which I guess was kind of within my realm of expectations. And this is my first time really running a brand that is heavily dependent on Christmas. And that was one of my motivations for actually wanting to start this in the first place was to get a little taste of that Black Friday and Christmas madness. And yeah, it seemed like Friday was up about two and a half X. It seems like Monday's going to end about that too. So it was nice. I don't know how that compares to a typical Black Friday and Cyber Monday though. I really have almost no reference point because like you, Mike, most of my brands have always been, uh, not very dependent on Christmas on the holidays. Mike Jackness (03:34.474) Yeah, I mean, I think that sounds about right. You know, two and a half X seems to be what we've seen in the past. I think that that's a pretty good, pretty good result. DJ (03:44.017) Yeah. So on to today's topic, I guess, uh, as we're talking about our brands, uh, I think today's topic is what you're looking for in your next project and your next business. And I, I'm not sure if we're going into this totally as a blank slate. I'm not sure if that is actually e-commerce related, or you're looking at starting a coffee shop. Uh, so I'll let you take it away. And what exactly that next business, Hey, you're doing some competitor research. Mike Jackness (04:05.576) I've got my coffee right here. Yeah, I don't think it'll be a coffee shop. And I do think it'll be an e-commerce. I really do enjoy e-commerce. There's a lot of really good benefits to it. I also think that no matter, I've learned my lesson in terms of like the grass is greener type of thing, right? And so it's easy to start daydreaming about some other thing that's out there that can potentially make you more money. But the reality is you often forget about all the work and effort you put into what you're already doing And oftentimes that even though you know, there is a potential It's just potential and something else and the chances of success aren't as high And so I don't know. I think that I've got my ten thousand hours and then some into Indie ecommerce, so it's something that I would definitely like to stick with but yeah, I mean I I think everything's an evolution and I think it'll look wildly different than that what I'm doing right now. It'll just still be sewing things online. DJ (05:10.625) Okay. So that's, uh, that's Clara's mud e-commerce business. It's going to look different. All right, guys, that's a wrap. So what are the qualities in all seriousness? What are the qualities that you're looking for in that e-comm business? Mike Jackness (05:14.978) Hahaha Mike Jackness (05:19.435) Well, let's. Mike Jackness (05:24.918) Maybe we should look at from the other perspective of where we're at now and what the struggle is right now and what I'm trying to mitigate against, which is that we're in this situation right now selling the same thing that everybody else sells. There's really just absolutely no differentiation to our product versus the next guy. And the gap continues to close between where we've been able to have success and where we're heading to, which is that we've had success because we've had really high quality listings with good copy, good images, good customer service, lots of reviews, et cetera. But what I see is that the competition is accelerating quicker than the platform. Maybe at one point, the platform, you know, being Amazon. DJ (06:16.765) Mm-hmm. Mike Jackness (06:18.442) was growing quicker than there was competition. So even when there was competition coming into the market, your sales would still grow because there were so many new people coming onto the Amazon marketplace. But I just, by the raw numbers, I actually don't know how many prime members there are in the United States. I probably should know that number off the top of my head, but 100 million, 150 million, whatever it might be, it's let's say 30% to 50% of people in the United States. you're never going to get 100% saturation. And at some point, you're kind of hitting peak saturation of just potential shoppers on Amazon. And you know. DJ (06:54.361) Yeah. And I think the way to look at it actually, objectively, you're right. Like there's only, you can't have 400 million prime shoppers in America. There's not enough people. But all you have to do is look at Amazon's P&L and you can see that their retail sales last year were basically flat. They had revenue gains from advertising and other services, but their retail sales were essentially flat. Mike Jackness (07:04.839) Right, there's not enough people. Mike Jackness (07:11.635) Yeah, exactly. Mike Jackness (07:18.31) Exactly. And so when you look at the dynamics of that, where Amazon's, let's just say their revenue is flat in the United States, I do think that expanding out of the United States is an opportunity. We're also still pigeonholed a little bit again, because the types of products are selling. We're FDA registered in the US, trying to get other nationalities to approve these products and go through that process. I just don't think it makes sense for us right now. where we have done that in the past for other brands. And so, you know, if Amazon is hitting peak saturation in the United States, and competition continues to grow, and margins continue to erode, because when you have more competition, there's always somebody there that's willing to sell it for less. They're doing it for whatever reason, right? They're breaking into the market, and so they're stowing at a low price to try to get traction. They are... living in a lower rent, lower cost of living jurisdiction around the world, and they don't need to make as much money as I do to pay for my lavish Vegas lifestyle. There's always someone willing to do it for less. When there's more people that are in that category, it makes it more difficult for me to price my products and make the margins that I need to. to justify the risk that I'm taking by running these businesses because there is a risk, right? I mean, at any point your account could get shut down or you could get sued or Amazon could tumble and fall. There could be a recession. There's always things that happen in business. Over 19 years, I've experienced a lot of them. And so I think that you need to make enough money to justify the risk. You're holding hundreds of thousands of dollars in inventory at any one time. It feels like a hot potato. And so... Just trying to think through all these different things makes me want to shift into a very different environment where we're making products that are maybe a one of a kind or certainly much more difficult for somebody to just grab off of Alibaba or at the Canton Fair or through a sourcing agent from someplace in the world. DJ (09:35.525) Yeah. So I guess your first two points, if you want to boil it down, number one is you're looking for a product that has opportunity for international expansion. And with the products you're selling right now, they're basically a health product. And that makes expanding internationally a bit of a barrier and a bit of a difficulty. So looking for a product that is a little bit more easily expanded internationally. So running shoes don't have any international regulation around them into expanding into Australia or the UK or Canada or wherever. Mike Jackness (09:57.888) Yup. Mike Jackness (10:04.354) Yep, exactly. So, yeah, so I think, you know, shift and, okay, go ahead. DJ (10:07.425) So on that note, just before you go there, so our products are, most of our brands and most of our products don't face any international regulation in terms of import restrictions. The barrier that we've always had is, you know, you wanna expand to Luxembourg, but how do you justify getting that inventory in to serve the 12 people that live in Luxembourg? And that's always been the big barrier for us is that you need to hit a certain scale before you can warrant that international expansion. Mike Jackness (10:28.938) Right, right. DJ (10:36.253) And for us, Canada is about 25% of our sales. It works out well because, you know, I'm Canadian and geographically Canada and the United States are close, but expanding to a lot of these other countries, it is a big logistical issue. So, do you think that will be an issue? Do you think that you can overcome that, especially as you're starting up with a brand that's, you know, doing low thousands of dollars a month in sales in the very beginning? Mike Jackness (10:36.31) Yeah. Mike Jackness (10:40.994) Yep. Mike Jackness (11:01.898) Yeah, I mean, I think it all depends on how you're getting your sales and the size and weight of the product. Are you shipping individual orders from here to overseas via some of these lower cross programs or are you having to land inventory in an NOAA jurisdiction first? So I think that there's still quite a bit that remains to be kind of figured out because I think there are certain criteria which we're going to go over here next that I am looking for. Being able to expand internationally, I look at as a long-term thing. I don't look at that as month six, I need to go expand internationally. I look at that as in year six maybe, after I've hit saturation in the US and now I have enough of a war chest or my logistics and manufacturing has spun up to a point where it makes sense to where I can efficiently break into another country. logical choice, as you said, is geographically close. It's same language. There's a whole bunch of huge benefits. You can even get started by just shipping stuff across the border, onesie twosies at a time to customers versus having to get inventory landed to test things. It's much easier. And so, yeah, I think of that as a longer term thing. It's just one of those things where I think it's a natural thing for a business to hit a point where... your business or your SKUs have hit saturation in the US and you'd be looking to expand internationally. DJ (12:34.333) Yeah, interesting. I am totally with you where I think that is where the profit centers are in smaller markets and smaller marketplaces, even though the bulk of the sales may come from the United States and that justifies the orders. Ultimately, it's the smaller marketplaces and smaller markets, which really move the profit needle. So, okay, you talked about customization too, and I know you're talking about a few other things. I don't know if you want to riff on that for a minute Mike Jackness (12:55.806) Yeah. Mike Jackness (13:03.85) Well, let's go through criteria because I have a list. I'm prepared with a list of things. So my number one thing at the top of the list is margin. Right? It just the idea of buying something for $10 and selling it for 30. We've discussed this many times on the podcast. I think that those days are just completely like way long gone in the rearview mirror. DJ (13:06.081) Sure. Okay. Mike Jackness (13:29.262) And so I'm thinking in terms of buying for 10 and selling for 50 as like the absolute bottom line floor. And so, you know, what qualities and criteria of a product do you have to have to be in that ballpark are the things that I'm looking at. Yeah, go ahead. DJ (13:44.821) So before you move on to that, why are you looking for margin? Because I know it sounds like a silly question, but I am totally with you. And I think perhaps my revelation for why I'm looking for margin is my reason is probably one of your reasons too, but I bet you it's probably not your number one reason. So what's the number one reason why you're looking for margin? Mike Jackness (14:04.694) Well, I mean, for me, it's really just the ability to be able to advertise. You know, it's, uh, this, this is not a new thing just because I, I'm going to tell you the story from last week, but, uh, cause I've been talking about this for quite a while, but I was with a buddy of mine in Los Angeles, uh, last week. And I went to a wedding in Los Angeles. It was a great time. And I had to pick one person that I, uh, that I can go see cause I only had like a very limited time. I flew in and flew right back out. Uh, and so I just kind of. went down my list of who I hadn't seen the longest and went to go see him. And after we had lunch, he asked me to look at his Facebook ads account and just kind of give him some recommendations. I'm like, holy crap, dude, like you're spending so much on these ads. Like you can't, he was getting like a two X row as I'm like, you're getting just slaughtered. He's like, no, I'm not like I'm actually still making money with this. And I was like, holy crap, like what do you, you know, we still we got into like, what are you buying this for and blah, blah. God, what a refreshing change of mindset, right? Where you're just like, I can afford to spend this money on these ads in a world where that's gonna be more and more prominent. Like you think about where things came from when you and I first got started a decade ago to where they are now, to where they're gonna be going another decade from now. It isn't like less and less people are gonna be involved in e-commerce and there's gonna be... less and less social platforms or whatever other platforms are out there that we can't even imagine 10 years from now, ads are going to continue to be more and more competitive. It's all going to be moving electronic. Just can't imagine a world where that goes any different. We're not going to go back to print. We're not going back to newspapers or national television programs to be advertising. It's all going to be these micro-advertising experiences. having the ability to have a product that you can spend that much money on that appeals to a certain segment of the population because again, now you have to be having a high-end product, something that people emotionally fall in love with and are making a purchase based off of that versus just they've typed in something into a search bar in Amazon and just want to buy and solve a problem. And so... Mike Jackness (16:27.694) I think that margin really comes down to all that. It also, there's a bunch of ancillary things that I think are important. I mean, besides just letting you spend money on advertising, it allows you to have a longer, more longevity in your business, right? Like as costs continue to go up, which is always going to be the case. Like there's never been a year I'm like, ah, prices went down this year from my cost of goods or from my ad cost or from my platform cost or for shipping cost or... for my anything, right? Like insurance and electric, whatever. Like every year, everything goes up. There's inflation plus, you know, just platforms get better at extracting fees and Amazon's really good at that. You know, and so I think that you start with kind of the end in mind. It isn't like, oh, because I, obviously I'd love to have a product that I can buy for a dollar and sell for five years ago or whatever. But like. where things are going, I think that we're going to be talking about like, I'm going to buy something for a dollar and sell it for seven longer term. This is going to become a more and more difficult thing to overcome. I want to set the bar high now to allow me to have a business that three to five years from now, when I'm thinking about potentially selling it, there's still a healthy margin as things do erode. DJ (17:33.36) Yeah. DJ (17:54.097) Yeah, 100% agree with both of those. And I'll tell you why the other reason that has been my kind of epiphany over the last couple of years, when it comes to margin. Uh, so we have historically sold a lot of really expensive products. Let's say a thousand dollar rooftop tent. Uh, we'll buy it for 500. We sell it for a thousand. Let's say we make 10% on it and we make a hundred bucks on it. However, all our money is in that cogs and paying that six months before we actually sell it. We have to place the order and then. six months later, we sell the product and we get the money. However, if you're putting all your money into advertising, that's where your costs are, is that you're dependent on advertising. You pay that net 30, you don't pay it six months in advance. So the problem is when all of your costs are in cogs, instead of advertising and marketing, you're paying that six months in advance and it's a huge cashflow issue. And that's why almost all these companies that scale really quick, e-commerce brands that scale really quick, they have high margins, not because at the end of the mine where I have all my money tied up in cogs, it's because they're able to utilize their cash a lot more efficiently than I am because they're paying for their advertising marketing costs 30 days after they incur them, not six months before. And having all your money tied up in cogs and having this really tiny gross margin, even though your net margin might be the same as Mike's watch brand, it is just a total hindrance to being able to scale that company. It's one of the things I've realized. over the last couple of years is why all these companies that have these massive gross margins where they're buying for a dollar and selling for a hundred, while they're able to scale, even though at the end of the day, their marketing and advertising costs mean that their net margins are still the same as me. So that's been my big revelation on why I'm now looking like you might mention five X, but you know, even six and seven X. Mike Jackness (19:40.522) Yeah, and there's lots of things out there, shockingly, that do fall in that category. But you have to do more work. Right? I mean, there's nothing in that bucket that's easy, right? In terms of just sourcing it off of Alibaba and then turning it around. Not that I'm aware of, at least. It's things that require a little more work, which we'll talk about here in a minute, because that isn't the... The second biggest thing for me in terms of when I'm going down my list of things that like are must haves, if margin is number one, number two is the ability to sell more to the same customer. Like I find this to be incredibly high up the list and really, really important factor into whatever business I'm into next. Because again, as we just talked about, as ad costs continue to go up. and competition is going up, the ability to recover your sunk cost from getting that first sale needs to be able to be divided eventually across two, three, four, 10 plus sales. And so this is a very important factor for me. We do have repeat business for ice wraps. It isn't like it's zero, but I don't spend a lot of time email marketing or doing Again, Black Friday, Summer Monday sales or the types of things that a brand that has the ability to sell inherently more to the same customer does. Because if we do our job right, someone's buying our product once and never buying it again. And it's pretty rare for you to buy a health related product again for a friend or family. It's just not normal to like, you know, for Christmas or. for a birthday or whatever to give somebody an ankle ice wrap because you heard that their ankle was hurting because if their ankle is hurting, they're going to buy the thing right then and there. And so it does happen. And so the reason we have repeat business is that we're selling to other businesses. And we see this on our Amazon dashboard. We see this from our Shopify sales. It's the chiropractor office. It's the dentist office. It's the physical therapy office. We also sell customized packs. We're like literally it's those customers that are getting their name printed on these Mike Jackness (22:04.494) products that they then hand out almost as like a business card to have their repeat business of people coming back to the chiropractor or the dentist or the physical therapist. And so we do have repeat business there, but there's only so many of those companies out there and we're never going to get into hiring a salesperson and calling on these types of offices and trying to convince them to buy our products. It just isn't where my expertise is. And I don't think that… It makes tons of sense to try to do that. But what I'm thinking of is more in terms of what we have with Color It, where someone's using up a page or a gel pen or a pencil and they're actually consuming our products similar to a can of shaving cream or a razor blade every single time they use the product. And so, or if it is something that's giftable. So like they buy one. They... maybe it isn't consumable, but they might buy another one from themselves or another two or three from themselves, or they'll find themselves really liking the product. When it comes time for the holidays or for a gift, they're like, man, I enjoy this product so much I want to give it to somebody else. Whatever element that is, I don't really care exactly what the product is necessarily as long as it hits that criteria of I can get somebody to buy my products more than once. DJ (23:31.985) So high repeat rate. I hear two things that either means A on Amazon, subscribe and save or B off Amazon. Mike Jackness (23:40.37) Right. And it even can't be on Amazon. Like, I mean, Color products weren't subscribe and save, and people were buying them off Amazon more than once. Right? It's like they're looking, they're seeking out our brand or our other products, because they weren't buying the same exact product. But subscribe and save certainly would be great, you know, if you think about a food product or other products or whatever that makes sense in terms of subscribe and save. That certainly is, it certainly is an angle. All the other things that come with your building a brand, sinking money into building an email list, sinking money into YouTube or SEO, building out your Amazon store, brand story, talking to Amazon influencers, just having your stuff out there to where once you have a customer, they're going to love your products and type in your stuff and seek it out. Color it was and is a search term on Amazon. You'd be shocked at how many people were actually searching our brand name. Uh, and that's something that I think is, is really important because again, they, they might buy color at Mondalas version one and then go out and look for volume two or go look like, man, I really love this, this product. I'm going to go type in color at coloring book and go look for other titles that are, that are out there. And so while it might not fit in the subscribe and save thing, it's still fit in the, uh, the repeat business category. And so certainly, however, However that is, whether it's subscribe and save or they're seeking us out, I think is an important component. DJ (25:12.837) Yeah, I would have agreed with you two or three years ago. I think if you're not subscribed and saved now, the chances of any repeat customer on Amazon occurring is very, very small. So first off, even outside of on Amazon, somebody finding your product on Amazon and then going and buying through your website, like they might have a few years ago, I don't think that really happens anymore. Amazon has complete monopoly over people's purchase behavior where they're not going to buy from another website. It's just. You know, even when we ran anchoring.com and anchoring.com or 80% of our sales, that just can't exist today just because there's so much loyalty to Amazon. So the idea of that, somebody finding the product on Amazon, going to your website and buying probably unlikely. I also think. Mike Jackness (25:56.662) Well, I'm not suggesting they come that they I'm not trying to drive them off Amazon to our website I'm just trying to get them to buy more from Amazon DJ (26:02.529) Yeah. And I think even that trying to get people to buy more on Amazon, that is relying on branded search, even if you get it to occur, there's so much advertising noise on Amazon, that somebody filtering through all that and making their way to your Mike Jackness, uh, sweater page, really, really hard to do a lot harder to do nowadays than it was before. However, my mindset, again, maybe I'm completely wrong, but my mindset is that those two don't work, but the one area that does work incredibly well is subscribe and save because. You get that repeat purchase behavior happening over and over again. It's automatically added to the cart every three to four weeks or whatever interval they set and it's there basically forever. So that's my way of looking at it. If you can do subscribe and save for an item, man, you are golden. But other than that, it's tough on Amazon. I could be wrong. I'd love again, on the comments, if anybody has a business on Amazon that has a high repeat purchase rate, not in subscribing, say I'd love to hear about it. But that's my opinion, really hard, a lot harder now on Amazon than it used to be. Mike Jackness (27:04.106) Yeah, I think that one of the qualities that would exist here, it wasn't actually on my list, but it's certainly up there. It's actually funny that you brought this up, but something that would work well multi-platform, which is a unicorn in itself as well, because it's typically a product that's really well suited for Amazon or it's really well suited for DDC off Amazon via Shopify and Instagram or Facebook ads or whatever. There's a small subset of products that... DJ (27:17.249) Mm-hmm. Mike Jackness (27:33.27) that the Venn diagram overlaps. That would be another quality that I'm looking for as well. I mean, it wasn't specifically on my list, but it is an important quality, because then you have an ability to go after particular keywords in search on Amazon and have that business, and then also have an ability to do SEO. and have it go directly to your Shopify store, having the ability to do DTC ads, Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, et cetera, all the things that I find to be really fun. Maybe that has a lot to do with it. It's like, I want to have fun and enjoy what I'm doing, which is certainly an important component for me to be able to do that is really important. And so I think, it's an interesting way to articulate it different than what I was thinking, but certainly that would be another component that would be important to me where I sit down and go, man, like this product, will never do well on Amazon, I think that doesn't make a lot of sense. Or you get, you look at a product, this is only something that's going to do well on Amazon, it'd be very difficult to, like right now, that's kind of where we're at. We have a product that's difficult to sell off Amazon. They do sell, we sell them on our website, but SEO, et cetera, is not really a great long-term strategy. I mean, the brand that we just sold back this summer worked well on both platforms. We had expanded to Shopify. being almost a quarter of our business from starting at almost zero when we bought it. So I think that that's an important thing. So you're not platform handcuffed. I only picked three things to talk about today because I know we have a limited amount of time. And so that was not on my list, but very interesting nonetheless. DJ (29:17.221) Yeah. And I know it's not on your list, but actually you brought up a really good point there. More fun, more enjoyable to run. Not necessarily more profitable. So this is kind of for me too, is like I'm trying to imagine, okay, what's a business that I'm going to be really excited to run and tinker on a day-to-day basis. And the truth of it is, you know, a Shopify site, we can debate the pros and the cons of it from a profitability standpoint compared to Amazon all day long. Mike Jackness (29:38.688) Yep. DJ (29:46.173) The truth of it is, at least for me and probably for you too, Mike, it's a lot more fun to run. It's a lot more fun to tinker with your funnels and your landing pages. I'm like, how can I increase my conversion rate? Uh, 0.001% by, you know, affecting this email campaign. Um, it just allows you to scratch that marketer itching you a little bit more because Amazon is really product based and, uh, you know, uh, me and you are probably more marketing based and product based and Having a Shopify site is just a lot more fun for scratching that marketing itch that we get than Amazon profitability aside. Mike Jackness (30:22.686) Yeah, I mean, absolutely no doubt. I mean, I don't know. Like, I think a lot of it comes down to being able to interact with your customers, right? With Amazon, it really feels so isolated. They've made it more and more isolated. And I love when they put these polls up in their back end that we have to look at every day, because it just shows you how disconnected management and Amazon is every single day. We should make that the way that we open the podcast every week is just to make fun of the poll. in the back end of Amazon. Today's poll is when I appeal a listing suspension, Amazon responds in a timely manner. If they actually think that that's what happens, if they're expecting everybody to be like, I agree, strongly agree, they're fooling themselves. One of the questions that came up recently was like, I have the ability to interact with my customer. I was like, what do you mean my customer? You guys explicitly say that it's not my customer, it's your customer. Do not contact them under any uncertain circumstances. I don't know, I think that that's pretty funny and I do feel isolated from it. DJ (31:23.073) Well, I'm sure they do it because they know the answer is either going to be 1% or 5%. Like that actually grew that answer and they're looking at, yeah, we got 5% this week. So I'm sure that they're completely aware that those questions are going to result in overwhelmingly negative responses. So there must be some strategy behind why they do it, but it does feel a little toned every time you log into Amazon, you see these questions, which are just infuriating. And I know that data is probably valuable to them and they understand what kind of Mike Jackness (31:44.116) Yeah. DJ (31:53.141) Like it really is infuriating and that's totally an aside, but I'm with you Mike. Every time I log in there and I see these questions, it's like, dude, like just be a little bit more sensitive. Mike Jackness (31:55.083) Yeah. Mike Jackness (32:02.707) Yeah, yeah, I mean, I don't know. It's funny, but yeah, that definitely is a very, I don't know, I really got a lot of joy out of being able to interact and do that and feel connected to my customers, my tribe, my people, seeing how that was affecting them in a positive way. And that really is infectious and makes you want to go design and do more things. And so yeah, it's certainly something I would be looking for as well. DJ (32:28.449) Well, it's a good thing that customers never complain and never find your cell phone number on a six o'clock on a Saturday night by calling your three PL and then calling UPS to see if they can give you the phone number to the owner of EcomCrew LLC. But yeah, I think back to that. I totally agree with you, dealing with customers on a day-to-day basis. It's really nice when you get... Mike Jackness (32:40.648) Yeah. Yeah, well that's you, so. DJ (32:56.969) than 95% of them who have a positive experience, but there's always going to be somebody that gets their product that arrives late and it was like a Christmas gift and it shows up on December 26th, uh, completely out of your control. But still they find that number, your phone, personal phone number somehow if they're with the repel or some other mechanism. Um, and so definitely that part, I don't know if I'm with you on that one. Uh, looking forward to dealing with all customers cause I know the bag go with the good. Mike Jackness (32:59.682) Yeah. Mike Jackness (33:24.138) Yep. All right, so let me get my third thing out of the way here because we're already, we go over time every single time, but it's a fun conversation. And my list is quite a bit long on this, but these are just the top three things I had on my list. The last one here is some sort of a moat, right? And so, you know, whether I'm building a, depends on the size of the castle, the size of the moat or whatever, but you're just thinking through things of how difficult is it. to duplicate my business. And I want it to be as hard as possible for somebody to recreate what I do. And now that doesn't mean impossible because that's just ignorant. Everything can be copied. But I want it to be more difficult than the average person is willing to do. And more difficult than nine out of 10 people in fact are willing to do, right? And so... I know there will be other people that will be willing to do it, but I want it to be something that requires a sizable capital investment to get started, and so people stay away because of that. Maybe it's something that requires signing a lease or getting a warehouse for and having employees here and doing something, and that's the thing. Maybe it's something that has intellectual property or a patent, and that becomes the defense. Maybe it's something that has all three of those things, which would be... even more exciting. But certainly again, what I'm trying to prevent is the 7 billion people around the world that have access to these platforms from being able to do the exact same thing I'm doing with relative ease, which is the exact spot that I'm in right this second. Again, we have a brand that I bought in 2015 that luckily has had tremendous success and I bought this brand for $50,000. It will be a huge success story the day that we sell it. It's been our cash cow. But again, it doesn't mean that I want to continue to do this indefinitely, because the last year has been a struggle. It hasn't been a cash cow this last year. It's certainly getting more and more difficult. And so looking at what we have here, which is, again, zero defensibility. Anywhere in the world can go get these products and sell them against us. And Mike Jackness (35:49.238) They will struggle to start with because just making a nice listing and selling it for less doesn't really get you a whole lot of traction or get you anywhere. But over time, there will be people and things that stick. And we certainly have a lot of competitors out there now selling the exact same product. And realistically, it's just as good. You put it in the freezer, it gets cold. You throw it in the microwave, it gets hot. I don't have the same excitement about it as color. stand in traffic defending those products all day long because they were truly better. They were really great products that people really love and they were defensible. And so I had everything was a little extra property, it took a big investment. And so you mentioned customization earlier. That's certainly one of the things I've been looking at because if you're doing customization and being able to ship and get it there quickly, inherently you probably need to do that in the United States. There are some things that can be. DJ (36:46.094) Mm-hmm. Mike Jackness (36:47.746) customized abroad and then ship because there are some huge leaks in our system. It's crazy. You can ship stuff from China to the United States cheaper than just shipping from Nevada to Nevada. I was just at my buddy's house today. He does e-commerce stuff and he printed me out a label because it's cheaper than going to the post office. But a medium flat rate box is up to $14.75 now. It's crazy. I mean, and you can literally ship something from China to here. DJ (37:10.439) Yep. Mike Jackness (37:14.782) In something like five to seven days, we've had people on the podcast talking about this for less than that. There are customized things that you can ship from around the world, but I'm not talking about like trade show pens here or something that's just your run of the mill commodity customized stuff. I'm talking about something that has a little bit more uniqueness to it than that. There's a lot of things I've been looking at in that regard. Again, something that has some sort of emote where the complexity becomes the opportunity. And I am, you know, I've always been willing to work hard. I've been a hard worker my whole life. I feel like, you know, I've had a pretty easy the last few months. And so certainly it'd be easy to go back into, and we're settled here now, which is the other cool thing. I mean, we're just not going anywhere. And so having a warehouse and having people here to do that stuff would be, it'd be a good timing for us. And if that's what it took. And so, It'll make it more difficult for other people out there that are just getting started, the people that are listening to this that don't want to make those steps. But for me, again, I'm willing to do it. I think that it seems crazy to not do e-commerce. All the skills, again, are very applicable. I still want to be able to sell whatever these products are on Amazon. I still want to be able to launch that Shopify store and sell. sell on Shopify, I still want to be able to run Facebook ads, TikTok ads, Instagram ads, Google ads, do some SEO, do email marketing, and work with influencers and have all this ecosystem and things that I've worked really hard on to learn all these skill sets. It seems like nothing to me because you're learning a little bit at a time and it makes it feel like you haven't learned a whole lot. I never went to college for psychology, but there's like a term for this of where... You know, something seems easy because you're learning it one day at a time. But if you try to tell somebody that is just getting started, how to sell their products online, and you had to like verbally tell them this, you know, almost like you had a podcast telling people about this. I mean, you'd be there for weeks and months and years, like verbally trying to exhaust what you have in your head to somebody. DJ (39:17.17) Almost like you had a podcast. DJ (39:28.469) you would be on episode 525. Mike Jackness (39:31.466) which I think this might be exactly episode 525, or it's very close to it. And so, you know, I think there's a lot to be said for that. I mean, we have 10,000 hours in podcasting. So, yeah, I mean, it's something that I've definitely put a lot of thought into, and I want to be able to kind of have my magnum opus e-commerce brand, which will... Now, here's the hard part is that I'm kind of committed to this one thing strategy right now. And so... I cannot start doing that until this current thing is complete. And it has been tough. It's been tougher to get out of bed than it has been in a long time and work on the stuff I have to work on because it's not exciting. I mean, it really is not the fun stuff, but it has to get done. DJ (40:22.697) Amen. All right. So that's your idea for a business. Not going to happen for until you can finish this one thing. And then you're going to find this unicorn of a high margin, high repeat customer, big moat business. And then you're going to partner with me on it. Mike Jackness (40:37.01) I don't think it's a unicorn. Yeah, well, I mean, I need someone to help me sell in Canada. I don't think it's a unicorn. You know, I really don't. There's a lot of things that I've been looking at. I don't necessarily know that I want to mention them all here on the podcast right this second, but there's a lot of things. I mean, there really is a lot of… There are hundreds of different types of products and ideas. DJ (40:44.481) Sorry. Mike Jackness (41:06.518) that can be done. Now, I guess it is a unicorn when you figure that there's probably a billion freaking products online. Like literally, I think that's probably not an exaggerated number. And so we're talking about hundreds or thousands into a billion, okay, maybe it is a unicorn from that perspective. But it's not like the true unicorn of like, there's only one. Like I think that there's a lot of things that fit this criteria. What doesn't fit this criteria is just the, I'm going to again, DJ (41:12.904) Yep. Mike Jackness (41:37.034) just be a faceless, mindless reseller of products on the internet, which is getting close to max saturation. DJ (41:45.949) Yeah. And I poke fun at you because it sounds like you've described a unicorn, but the truth of it is basically what you're saying is that you want a business with, uh, more margins to support higher advertising costs, uh, and more margin probably to support a little bit of customization, a manual input locally. Uh, and that kind of leads back to your higher margin part, not because necessarily your net margins at the end of the day are going to be any higher than the business that you have now. It's just going to be a little bit more of a, uh, of a different rejiggering of where those costs occur, which Ultimately, we'll give you more defense build. Mike Jackness (42:20.002) Cool, well we have hit the 42 minute mark of this podcast so we're already way over our target as I mentioned but hopefully this gives people some things to think about as we're ending 2023 heading into 2024 which is crazy. It's another year it's gone by. quickly so it's getting close time for our top episodes, episodes and what we're thinking about doing in 2024. It's crazy this is all happening and time to take the year end break and vacation. So we will probably not have an episode here that last week of the year just to because most people are out in some outer space spot. But yeah, getting close to wrapping up another year. It's crazy. DJ (43:01.089) Cool, well, we will chat in the next one whenever that is. Mike Jackness (43:04.342) Whenever that is. All right, until that one everybody, happy selling. We'll talk to you soon.
Welcome back to Making Bank. On today's episode, we have a compilation of previous episodes with Hollis Carter, Brendan Kane, Riley Dayne, Todd Brown, David Osborn, Cassidy Phillips, and Max Finn and in this episode, you will hear tips and tricks from top entrepreneurs about the guide to success. (2:49) Hollis Carter Never bite more than you can chew. Sometimes when you get inspired by a project, you tend to want to do it only to find out that it takes a lot of work. You need time, resources, and a lot of planning. As a result, you get overwhelmed. That is why you should never take more than what you can handle. (8:22) Brendan Kane You can get a big A list celebrity, but if you don't have content that's compelling, nobody cares. There is so much content out there, people are not going to have time for yours. Remember you can interview people who are not celebrities as well as long as their story is compelling. (12:40) Riley Dayne The word passion today gets a bad rep. Many will say don't follow the passion, follow the money, however passion is important because it gives you that power and drive you need on a day where you feel like giving up. It gives you that extra push. You will always find roadblocks but passion is the key ingredient to help you get through them. (23:41) Todd Brown One of the biggest mistakes that entrepreneurs make is starting with a product. Many entrepreneurs fall in love with a particular product and when their marketing doesn't work, they fail and get crushed. Rather than falling in love with a product, you should fall in love with being an entrepreneur. Doing this gives you the freedom to pick yourself up and move on in case things don't work out. (30:22) David Osborn Sometimes the journey is the destination. It might seem like it's taking longer for you to be successful but when you look back, you will realize that whatever happened to you, happened for a reason. It got you to where you are right now. So no matter how long it takes, just remember that every single step matters in the journey of success. (33:27) Cassidy Phillips You gotta work with your children, not for your children. Include your children in some of the hardships you live rather than just handing them over your wealth. Be the responsible badass parent and hard working entrepreneur you are so that your children can look at you and realize your work and also work as hard as you do. (39:04) Max Finn The most common mistake that entrepreneurs make is they want to control everything, they want to do everything by themselves. The thing is once you do this, you will soon have a constant decline around areas that you are not looking at. That is why you should hire experts to take care of the things you cannot supervise. This will help you grow more in the long run. Tags: @hollisc @brendankane @rileydayne @toddbrown @iamdavidosborn @thecassidyphillips @maxfinn
Welcome back to Making Bank. On today's episode, we have a compilation of previous episodes with Hollis Carter, Brendan Kane, Riley Dayne, Todd Brown, David Osborn, Cassidy Phillips and Max Finn and in this episode you will hear tips and tricks from top entrepreneurs about the guide to success. (2:49) Hollis Carter Never bite more than you can chew. Sometimes when you get inspired by a project, you tend to want to do it only to find out that it actually takes a lot of work. You need time, resources and a lot of planning. As a result you get overwhelmed. That is why you should never take more than what you can handle. (8:22) Brendan Kane You can get a big A list celebrity, but if you don't have content that's compelling, nobody cares. There is so much content out there, people are not going to have time for yours. Remember you can interview people who are not celebrities as well as long as their story is compelling. (12:40) Riley Dayne The word passion today gets a bad rep. Many will say don't follow the passion, follow the money, however passion is important because it gives you that power and drive you need on a day where you feel like giving up. It gives you that extra push. You will always find roadblocks but passion is the key ingredient to help you get through them. (23:41) Todd Brown One of the biggest mistakes that entrepreneurs make is starting with a product. Many entrepreneurs fall in love with a particular product and when their marketing doesn't work, they fail and get crushed. Rather than falling in love with a product, you should fall in love with being an entrepreneur. Doing this gives you the freedom to pick yourself up and move on in case things don't work out. (30:22) David Osborn Sometimes the journey is the destination. It might seem like it's taking longer for you to be successful but when you look back, you will realize that whatever happened to you, happened for a reason. It got you to where you are right now. So no matter how long it takes, just remember that every single step matters in the journey of success. (33:27) Cassidy Phillips You gotta work with your children, not for your children. Include your children in some of the hardships you live rather than just handing them over your wealth. Be the responsible badass parent and hard working entrepreneur you are so that your children can look at you and realize your work and also work as hard as you do. (39:04) Max Finn The most common mistake that entrepreneurs make is they want to control everything, they want to do everything by themselves. The thing is once you do this, you will soon have a constant decline around areas that you are not looking at. That is why you should hire experts to take care of the things you cannot supervise. This will help you grow more in the long run. Tags: @hollisc @brendankane @rileydayne @toddbrown @iamdavidosborn @thecassidyphillips @maxfinn
Do you know what Advent is? It's a 4-week season in the Christian calendar leading up to Christmas Eve! The word means “coming” or “arrival.” So, Advent looks back to the first arrival of Jesus – the birth of Christ 2000 years ago. But, Advent also looks forward to the second coming of Christ when Jesus will return as our Glorious King. That means you have a great reason to HOPE this Christmas season! At Advent, Christians all around the world are invited to do 3 things: slow down, clear the clutter in their hearts, and fall in love with Jesus all over again. If you don't slow down, you may miss the joy and wonder of considering the miracle of Jesus coming to earth as a baby to save us. And after you slow down, take time to clear the clutter in your heart. Make room for Christ! Typically at Christmas we actually drift from Jesus, cluttering our calendar with work, shopping, and parties. Don't let God get crowded out! Then, take the time to worship fully! Worship isn't just the singing of songs on Sunday. Worship is a choice to glorify God and trust him completely. Let worship overwhelm any worry you feel in this season and remember that God is in full control. Magnify the Lord! He sent His Son Jesus just for you to cast out fear, cancel your sin, and give you peace with His very presence. Watch this message from Pastor Tim Lucas, and start the Advent Season by turning your focus back to Jesus. #Advent #Christmas #HopeAtAdvent #ArrivalofJesus #ComingOfJesus #SlowDown #ClearTheClutterInYourHeart #MiracleofChristmas #God #Jesus #Christianity #ChristianChurch #LiquidChurch
Two Deep Roots In Grace By Tammy Lacock There are two deep roots that were in God's plan before the foundation of the world. These are heavenly roots. They have nothing to do with the world and nothing to do with the Devil. They have everything to do with us and God's love for us through His Son. These two deep roots sustain the final gospel of Paul, who by revelation from Christ Himself understood the Cross and its ushering in of God's grace unlike any other writer. The following two verses form the foundation. “According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love.” (Ephesians 1:4)“But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot: Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you.” (1 Peter 1:19-20)This week, Warren Litzman takes us to the Cross again in the hopes that we can understand the great power of sin and God's grace and love poured out unto us through His Son as ultimate power. Warren takes us to the cross so that we can see Christ's pure sacrifice, His suffering and shed blood and by seeing, fall in love with Him.“But God forbid that I should glory, save in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom the world is crucified unto me, and I unto the world.” (Galatians 6:14)Here Paul tells us that there is no other glory than the glory of Christ. By His death at the cross, the world has been crucified, and we are no longer bound by it. The world is under subjection to God's plan. In grace, the world has lost its ultimate power, whether by sin or by law. For Paul, his new life in Christ is all that matters. Christ is his first love. Our new life in Christ could not have been made possible without the Cross. God's love and grace is so amazing that He rooted this deep into His plan, before the foundation of the world.
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This week, we are asking the important questions about 2024. Like, what plant will we fall in love with? And what body part will be in style? Those are some of the ponderings included in a recent story on next year's trends in T: The New York Times Style Magazine. We put the co-hosts of ‘Fanti,' Tre'vell Anderson and Jarrett Hill, to the test. They are also the co-authors of ‘Historically Black Phrases.' Tre'vell's recent book is titled ‘We See Each Other.' Then, Omkari Williams tells us about her new book ‘Micro Activism: How You Can Make a Difference in the World Without a Bullhorn.' In it, she argues that everyone can be an activist and that working on a small scale can create lasting change. ]]>
This episode walks through the story of what made me fall in love with Islam. Initially, I felt that this episode did not meet my standards. For a variety of reasons but particularly in regards to the insights I share towards the end on what really made Islam pierce my heart. I wanted to get every detail narrated, a full timeline, a full depiction of all events. But then I remembered something obvious - I'm neither a scholar, nor a historian. I will eternally have so much to learn. I'm a human, inherently designed with imperfections. All I can do is share what I think and how I perceive. If I don't allow myself to freestyle here, where will I?If anything, let this plant a seed. Learn about what happened. Learn from people who know much more than I ever will. Listen with an open heart. Humanize us. ---Disclaimer: If there are any mistakes or misunderstandings in my conclusions or delivery, please correct me with adab.
This week, author, musician, and conservationist Riverhorse Nakadate sells us sausage and fights shark finning, we carp fish with the alley cat of Kunkeltown, fall in love with Brandy the bass ringer, and get lost in the wilderness right behind the AutoZone.
Get bonus episodes on Patreon! The day is finally here: our third adventure in long-form literary analysis has begun. The prologue of A Game of Thrones gives you everything you need to fall in love with Westeros: George R. R. Martin's immediate interest and unmatched skill for worldbuilding, conversational characterization, and a fearless, brutal, relatable preoccupation with death. His characters are afraid, his dramatic stakes are sky high, and we can't look away. Winter is here. LINKS: Patreon, YouTube, Spotify, Instagram, Cam's stories Feedback & Theories: firstname.lastname@example.org
Excited to release Akashic message for December. This is a channelled message from the Akashic Records. Akashic Records are a record of everything your soul has been through. This message is for the collective. As we enter December, this episode carries a consistent theme—an invitation to fall in love with this version of you. Amidst the profound changes, it's crucial to release the past self. Recognize that true control resides in this present moment; the illusion of overall control fades away. This transformative year has been about closing personal and ancestral karmic cycles.Direct your focus to radiating your light in the now, understanding your significance. Connect with the love within and around you, acknowledging the support from your guides. December unfolds as a unique phase for profound healing in its elevated vibrations. Embrace this period to step into your power, embody authenticity, and harmonize diverse aspects of your life. Each experience contributes to your expansion and aligns with your soul's journey.Prioritize self-connection during this time, nurturing the relationship with your inner being.Come join me for another powerful episode, please take the time to rate and review this episode. Let me know if this episode and message resonated with you. Wishing you a joyful holiday season! In celebration, we've decided to offer personalized 30-minute sessions – either intuitive coaching or a reading – until December 31. What makes this special is that you get to name your price! Yes.. you read that right, you name your price. DM or email me with your price and I will send you a payment link and scheduling details. Limited to one session per person and based on availability. Sending you lots of love and light, wishing you an expansive December. To contact Nimesh on insta - https://www.instagram.com/nimesh_radia/?hl=en, on his website - https://spiritualjourney.life/ or via email on email@example.com
What are the top lessons learned over a very successful six decades of real estate investing? Tom Wilson, principal at Wilson Investment Properties, a seasoned investor in several asset classes including retail, office, multi-family, industrial and others, shares his wealth of knowledge.Read the entire interview here: https://tinyurl.com/38phajz2Major Lessons LearnedMy first tip of the day is to go to Fannie Mae's website and look for Doug Duncan's predictions around what's going on in the marketplace, and he has accurately called every single rate change in the last 20 years.Secondly, operations is indeed a critical element, Ken McElroy prides himself in having come into the real estate world from the operations standpoint, and he often emphasizes how important that is. The best underwriting, the best market, and product are only as good as you can execute it. You really need all the legs of the stool to be able to have something come off successful.We always want high cap rates, low risk, and high appreciation but it's very hard to find all three, so you have to decide what is the most important to you. California has been able to generate great appreciations in recent years, but not so good on cap rates, and Texas, Florida, and other places have other things that are strong so you need to realize it's very hard to get everything you want, you have to choose which is important.One of the most important things I've learned is how different sub-markets are and how different products are. It's incredible how different they are. You look at the curves of these markets and products. The general information will give you a general concept but you can always find products, you can always find portions of the market where it can be quite contrarian to what the general information is.Don't fall in love with a deal and try to make it happen. Saying no can be more valuable than saying yes. Almost every property I've bought, I've gone to see it myself, I don't do the level of detail I used to but when you scale, you have to delegate to others. Go look at the other stores around the area, retail, grocery, etc. Who is it that actually comes in there? Market studies from the listing agents show you the one-mile, three-mile, and five-mile, what the demographics are, that's not necessarily who's in your property. As you can tell by going at nighttime, park the car, and see what comes in and out. When you make a mistake, it's tough to grieve, and lick your wounds for a while but don't run from it forever. Go back with your team and analyze what is it that went wrong or what is it we can do better next time. Sometimes we learn more from the things that don't work, than the things that do.Change your model periodically. Switch from market to market to asset class to another, whatever it goes with the time so the market. One of the things I've done that has contributed to my success is to change the model. One of the things I haven't done so well is probably not change it as fast as I could have. It's hard to leave something that was working.What's the most valuable asset that you have?I think it's the 2,000 names that I have on my phone, because with those relationships you can start over if you have to rebuild. Relationships are critical, and character is more important than competence. It's nice to have both but character is number one.And, above all, enjoy the journey. It's so easy to get caught up on every day operations and finding more success. But along the way, give back and smell the roses.
It is not yesterday or tomorrow that you are going to find what you're looking for. It is here in the now that your world is about to open up to all the possibilities inside of you, but you must stop and see the moment, or it will pass you by. The magic moments are the ones of your dreams, in the present unwavering breath you hold in your hands, waiting for you to notice, to fall in love with the right now."The world is its own magic: open up your eyes and let it fall upon your heart."-KMSHOW NOTES:Join Life and Wellness Coach, Kira Mesi as she navigates the ups and downs of life through personal experience, storytelling, and interviews. Learn to lean into your best self with the mindful practice of gratitude living, honoring your soul's purpose, and the joy of Finding Rainbows on an ordinary day."Dive into the ordinary looking for the extraordinary because life is hard, but if you look close enough, you will find the Rainbows." ~Kira*Schedule your Free Online Life Coaching Consultation and Explore what life coaching is all about:Who am I? • @findingrainbows • Milkshake Website Builder (msha.ke)Smile Sciences: Discount Code: FindingrainbowsBuy Cruelty Free Teeth Whitening Products – Smile SciencesSHOP OUR RAINBOWS STORE AND SUPPORT THE PODCASTFinding Rainbows The Podcast (finding-rainbows-the-podcast.myshopify.com)*Grab our bestselling hoodie and support a worthy cause!LOVE IS THE ANSWER! Our bestselling hoodie is not only a work of art b – Finding Rainbows The Podcast (finding-rainbows-the-podcast.myshopify.com)*All proceeds of the Love is the answer" hoodie to: Meals By GraceFOLLOW ME FOR MORE INSPIRATION:@FindingRainbows | LinktreeSupport the showSupport the showCreate a LIFE you LOVE!
Stop having the same fight with your partner and learn how to communicate better. Listen in to hear a behind-the-scenes look at working with me Learn about two special strategies I take my clients through that make their partner fall in love with them even more! I can help you communicate better and stop having the same fight with your partner. If you have any questions I'll be happy to answer them on your strategy call SCHEDULE YOUR STRATEGY CALL HERE before the end of 2023. Rates increase in the New Year: https://christalallen.com/chat Your Life & Marriage Coach, Christal
Historical fiction author, Karen Baney, recently branched into contemporary with The Air I Breathe and now with her new Vargas Ranch series. Recently, Falling for a Real Cowboy released, and soon her Falling for a Shy Cowboy will release as well. Listen in to how she came up with this series and why she branched out into cowboy romance. note: links may be affiliate links that provide me with a small commission at no extra expense to you. Listening to Karen describe Falling for a Real Cowboy and how she came up with the Vargas Ranch family story, the brand, the family motto--it's all amazing (and available on her website. Just sayin'). This book features a failing romance writer showing up in Arizona to learn about ranch life so she can write cowboy romance and... finding a romance of her own. Then we chatted about her upcoming release, Falling for a Shy Cowboy, and the characters in there. A shy cowboy with a speech impediment, a prodigal best friend's sister, and that sister's disabled boy. I fully expect to have a battered heart by the time I finish these. Just sayin'. Falling for a Real Cowboy by Karen Baney She's trying to resurrect her career. He's sworn off women. Will this city-meets-country duo find love where they least expect it? Dalton J. Vargas the fourth has sworn off love. Women are just a distraction that keep him from running his family's multi-million-dollar guest ranch near Wickenburg, Arizona. After his father announces an early retirement, the full burden of the ranch rests on his shoulders. When a city-slicker romance author stays at the ranch, Dalton's perfect world turns to chaos. River Sloane's last workplace romance novel flopped—big time. Now her publisher wants her to write a modern-day cowboy romance, which she has resisted for years. When her publisher sends her to a dude ranch in the middle of nowhere Arizona, she must learn about cowboys and ranching to get her career back on track. One hunky cowboy stirs her heart and unexpectedly becomes her muse. Will she let herself fall in love with the real cowboy or will she return to the life she left behind? Will Dalton open his heart to a new, lasting love? Find out more about Karen Baney on her WEBSITE and follow her on BookBub and GoodReads. Like to listen on the go? You can find Because Fiction Podcast at: Apple Castbox Google Play Libsyn RSS Spotify Amazon and more!
Can we have a little moment for Molly please?A burst of vitality, humility, candour and humour - achieving the dreams she once feared type 1 diabetes would prevent, AND keeping it @cutenchronic in the process!The TikTok account that Molly started in lockdown gave her a whole new sense of purpose, and allowed her to turn her lack of self-confidence around. Molly has had two lifelong dreams - to dance professionally and to live abroad - for as long as she can remember, and for a while type 1 diabetes threatened to take that away. Now she is doing both simultaneously, and her diabetes management is better than its ever been.In this episode we discuss the gruelling schedule of a dancer and how she manages her condition in the heat of Sharm El-Sheikh, the isolation she felt from her friends around the time of her diagnosis aged 12, the confidence she's developed from owning her type 1 diabetes throughout her dance training, what finding the right type of support has meant to her, keeping it real on TikTok, and her next dream of showcasing type 1 diabetes across stage and screen.It's impossible not to fall in love with Molly, enjoy the episode!SAY HI TO MOLLY:Molly's TikTokMolly's InstagramSPONSOR MESSAGE:Thanks to my episode sponsors Insulet, the founders of Pod Therapy - only found with Omnipod. Pod therapy uses a tubeless, wearable and waterproof Pod that continuously delivers insulin for up to three days. Controlled wirelessly by its handheld companion, it allows you to personalise your insulin doses according to your own daily needs - no multiple daily injections and no tubes. Head to https://www.omnipod.com/ to find out more.
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Fall in love with fresh, earthy flavors and new recipes from Maria Liberati! This week, Maria and Special Guest Viola Buitoni discuss authentic Italian cuisine! Enter, "The Maria Liberati Show," based on her travels, as well as her Gourmand World Award-winning book series, "The Basic Art of Italian Cooking," and "The Basic Art of..." Find out more on https://www.marialiberati.com ----- Intro music: "A Quick Coffee" by Borrtex - available via Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/us/ Outro music: "First Day of Spring" by David Hilowitz - available via Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/us/ --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/maria-liberati/message
Want to watch the recording of this conversation and connect even deeper with the transmission? Get the video hereFeel stuck in “doing” your inner work or adhering to spiritual concepts, and need a reminder of why you're here? This is it.In this second episode with Chris Bale (ep 64 from a year ago is one of the most listened to) we explore the misconception of having to become someone or do something, while you're missing the fascinating experience of being human. That the lovemaking between spirit and consciousness is happening right inside you and that you're here to be present with it.In this slow-food-for-the-soul conversation, we explore the potency in listening, how uncomfortableness is here to set us free, our fear of death, our addiction to sparkly spiritual band-aids, and more.Chris Bale is a spiritual mentor, intimacy coach, and energy worker and has deeply inspired me to fall in love with my human and feel deeper than ever before.Chris is a guest teacher in my 7-month alchemical program Being Me. Get on the waitlist for the next round, or join the Death/Rebirth process we move through in December. It's open to everyone.You find show notes in this post on my website
What's better than finding love? Finding yourself... and the friends you make along the way. Russ and Jared are feeling inspired as they take a big bite out of Love & Gelato (2022), starring Susanna Skaggs, Tobia De Angelis, Saul Nanni, Owen McDonnell, Valentina Lodovini, and Anjelika Washington. Take a tour of Italy with the guys and you'll fall in love too, and stay tuned for part 2 tomorrow!
Fall back?! More like "fall in love" with our autumn entry for this round of "The Four Seasons Of Film," the 1989 romantic comedy When Harry Met Sally! Join Aaron and returning guest Rob Chenoweth (of Pop That! podcast) as they discuss this charming, breezy, seasonal flick, the rom-com greats, and ask themselves if men and women can really just be friends. Grab a comfy sweater, dive into this big pile of raked leaves, and prepare to have more seasonal cinema fun!
Are the Lions still in good shape in the NFC North? Absolutely. 3 game lead with 6 to play but there are some national experts who are starting to fall in love with Jordan Love and the Pack. Matt plays some audio from The Green Light Podcast with Chris Long where he really hops on the Packers bandwagon. Also, ball security drills at practice, Hendon Hooker makes his practice debut, and a very concerning injury for the Lions. #firstlisten Support Us By Supporting Our Sponsors! DoorDash Get 50% off up to $10 value when you spend $15 or more on your FIRST order, when you download the DoorDash app and enter code LOCKED23. Subject to change. Terms apply. BetterHelp This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Make your brain your friend, with BetterHelp. Visit BetterHelp.com/LOCKEDON today to get 10% off your first month. PrizePicks Go to PrizePicks.com/lockedonnfl and use code lockedonnfl for a first deposit match up to $100! Gametime Download the Gametime app, create an account, and use code LOCKEDONNFL for $20 off your first purchase. Last minute tickets. Lowest Price. Guaranteed. LinkedIn LinkedIn Jobs helps you find the qualified candidates you want to talk to, faster. Post your job for free at LinkedIn.com/LOCKEDONNFL. Terms and conditions apply. FanDuel Score early this NFL season with FanDuel, America's Number One Sportsbook! Right now, NEW customers get ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY DOLLARS in BONUS BETS with any winning FIVE DOLLAR MONEYLINE BET! That's A HUNDRED AND FIFTY BUCKS – if your team wins! Visit FanDuel.com/LOCKEDON to get started. FANDUEL DISCLAIMER: 21+ in select states. First online real money wager only. Bonus issued as nonwithdrawable free bets that expires in 14 days. Restrictions apply. See terms at sportsbook.fanduel.com. Gambling Problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit FanDuel.com/RG (CO, IA, MD, MI, NJ, PA, IL, VA, WV), 1-800-NEXT-STEP or text NEXTSTEP to 53342 (AZ), 1-888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org/chat (CT), 1-800-9-WITH-IT (IN), 1-800-522-4700 (WY, KS) or visit ksgamblinghelp.com (KS), 1-877-770-STOP (LA), 1-877-8-HOPENY or text HOPENY (467369) (NY), TN REDLINE 1-800-889-9789 (TN) Follow & Subscribe on all Podcast platforms…
I got my guy Tony Bradley joining us on this week's episode. Tony is a fellow UNC Tar Heel and was my teammate when we won that National Championship back in 2017. How did he first fall in love with basketball and who were some of the guys he looked up to in the league from a young age? What was it like to be recruited by your dream school and then go on to win a Natty? We talk about some crazy stories like how Tony suffered from a full body cramp when we were celebrating our National Championship and what it was like to be a part of that Jazz vs Thunder game when the league shut down because of Covid. Tony has played on multiple talented teams in the league so what is it like to see guys like Joel Embiid and Donovan Mitchell take over games firsthand? This is another great episode of Run Your Race that you are going to want to check out. Go to http://prizepicks.com/race and use code "race" for first deposit match up to $100 Make Sure to Follow: https://www.instagram.com/_kingcozy/ https://www.instagram.com/tpinsonn/ https://www.youtube.com/c/TidalLeague
What Up Peeps! I'm BACK with that Verbal Cardio! This episode is about how fast do you fall in love, shopping carts, self image, top 5 foods, Andre 3000s album, one Tom Hanks role, and top 5 artists from the 2000s and up.
Even if you don't know Larry Charles' name, his work is inescapable. He spent years as a writer on ‘Seinfeld' before starting his career as a director on shows like ‘Curb Your Enthusiasm' and movies like Sacha Baron Cohen's ‘Borat' and ‘Brüno.' Now, after swearing off Hollywood, he's back with what might be his most “transgressive” movie yet, ‘Dicks: The Musical,' a truly deranged comedy about two “straight” twins who were separated at birth and ultimately fall in love. In this episode, Charles reveals why this was the project that got him to narrative filmmaking and shares stories from the sets of ‘Seinfeld,' ‘Curb,' ‘Borat' and more. Plus, the director opens up more than ever before about the major falling out he had with longtime collaborator Larry David after HBO pulled their documentary project at the very last minute. Watch ‘Dicks: The Musical' at homeFollow Larry Charles on Twitter @larrycharles and Instagram @larrycharlesFollow Matt Wilstein on Threads @mattwilsteinFollow The Last Laugh on Instagram @lastlaughpod and Threads @lastlaughpodHighlights from this episode and others at The Daily Beast Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
We got to talk to Magnet Theater improviser, Ellen Matthews! Ellen is a damn delight! She and Jason take a deep dive into improv! They talk about how stand-up and sketch were more appealing to her than improv was, how finding the Magnet made her fall in love with improv, the improv gods, how improv is the formula to friendship, feeling out the rhythm of a show instead of over-thinking your way through scenes, and much more! Check out her podcast, 'The Pursuit of Perfectness': letshearit.network/series/the-pursuit-of-perfectness Instagram: @CatsCradleImprov, @ThereItIsPod, @JasonFarrPics Twitter: @ThereItIsPod, @JasonFarrJokes Facebook: @ThereItIsPod Subscribe to our comedy newsletter: https://mailchi.mp/e22defd4dee2/thereitis
Today, James is joined by Robyn and Jay the Engineer to talk about romantic and business relationships. They share personal stories of moving from friends to being in love and discuss how intimacy works in different kinds of relationships, including those at work and in the community. A key focus of our discussion is the intriguing idea of moving from the 'friend zone' to deeper, more meaningful connections. We delve into the importance of sustained, escalating, reciprocal, and personal self-disclosure in building intimacy. This exploration is anchored by insights from the research paper "The Experimental Generation of Interpersonal Closeness," which sheds light on the patterns essential for developing close relationships. Below is the full list of 36 questions for "closeness-generating", taken from the paper:1. Given the choice of anyone in the world, whom would you want as a dinner guest? 2. Would you like to be famous? In what way? 3. Before making a telephone call, do you ever rehearse what you are going to say? Why? 4. What would constitute a "perfect" day for you? 5. When did you last sing to yourself? To someone else? 6. If you were able to live to the age of 90 and retain either the mind or body of a 30-year-old for the last 60 years of your life, which would you want? 7. Do you have a secret hunch about how you will die? 8. Name three things you and your partner appear to have in common. 9. For what in your life do you feel most grateful? 10. If you could change anything about the way you were raised, what would it be? 11. Take 4 minutes and tell your partner your life story in as much detail as possible. 12. If you could wake up tomorrow having gained any one quality or ability, what would it be? Set II 13. If a crystal ball could tell you the truth about yourself, your life, the future, or anything else, what would you want to know? 14. Is there something that you've dreamed of doing for a long time? Why haven't you done it? 15. What is the greatest accomplishment of your life? 16. What do you value most in a friendship? 17. What is your most treasured memory? 18. What is your most terrible memory? 19. If you knew that in one year you would die suddenly, would you change anything about the way you are now living? Why? 20. What does friendship mean to you? 21. What roles do love and affection play in your life? 22. Alternate sharing something you consider a positive characteristic of your partner. Share a total of 5 items. 23. How close and warm is your family? Do you feel your childhood was happier than most other people's? 24. How do you feel about your relationship with your mother? 25. Make 3 true "we" statements each. For instance 'We are both in this room feeling ... " 26. Complete this sentence: "I wish I had someone with whom I could share ... " 27. If you were going to become a close friend with your partner, please share what would be important for him or her to know. 28. Tell your partner what you like about them; be very honest this time saying things that you might not say to someone you've just met. 29. Share with your partner an embarrassing moment in your life. 30. When did you last cry in front of another person? By yourself? 31. Tell your partner something that you like about them already. 32. What, if anything, is too serious to be joked about? 33. If you were to die this evening with no opportunity to communicate with anyone, what would you most regret not having told someone? Why haven't you told them yet? 34. Your house, containing everything you own, catches fire. After saving your loved ones and pets, you have time to safely make a final dash to save any one item. What would it be? Why? 35. Of all the people in your family, whose death would you find most disturbing? Why? 36. Share a personal problem and ask your partner's advice on how he or she might handle it. Also, ask your partner to reflect back to you how you seem to be feeling about the problem you have chosen.-----------What do YOU think of the show? Head to JamesAltucherShow.com/listeners and fill out a short survey that will help us better tailor the podcast to our audience!Are you interested in getting direct answers from James about your question on a podcast? Go to JamesAltucherShow.com/AskAltucher and send in your questions to be answered on the air!------------Visit Notepd.com to read our idea lists & sign up to create your own!My new book, Skip the Line, is out! Make sure you get a copy wherever books are sold!Join the You Should Run for President 2.0 Facebook Group, where we discuss why you should run for President.I write about all my podcasts! Check out the full post and learn what I learned at jamesaltucher.com/podcast.------------Thank you so much for listening! If you like this episode, please rate, review, and subscribe to “The James Altucher Show” wherever you get your podcasts: Apple PodcastsStitcheriHeart RadioSpotifyFollow me on Social Media:YouTubeTwitterFacebook
We standing on bizness let's quantify it: I broke down my 2024 intentions in ten categories Health, Career/Business, Wealth, Travel, Family and Friends, Lifestyle, Hobbies, Knowledge, Love, and God/Faith.... The 8 Dimensions of Leadership: DiSC Strategies for Becoming a Better Leader 1000 True fans Buy the book Chop Wood, Carry Water (How to fall in love with the process of becoming great) Want to work with me - fill out an intake form Our Sponsors: Get QBO for your bookkeeping needs Please use code Fancy20 for 20% off your purchase at atasteofrelaxation.com Want to make bookkeeping easier: Get QBO for your bookkeeping needs How to stay connected with me: Register for TTC Academy - (CLOSED UNTIL SPRING 2023) Schedule an appointment Sign up for email list Upcoming Speaking engagements: New Journals: Your Next Level Business Growth Journal 30 Day Affirmation Journal Book me for speaking engagements: contact firstname.lastname@example.org Follow me on Pinterest Follow me on LinkedIn Follow me on Instagram "It is in your consistency, where you will find your WIN!"~Charese Chambers Musical Track: IG: https://www.instagram.com/mtthwhudson/?hl=en Intro composer: https://www.instagram.com/dawainpodcoach/?hl=en **Affiliate links ("https://amzn.to/3gPSnOe" "amzn.to") may be used and do lend a percentage commission upon purchase. Take the initiative and educate yourself about FTC Disclosure + Affiliate Links: http://bit.ly/2oigrvF --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/businessafterdark/support
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Hour 2 - The guys look from the top down at what seemed like a lack of preparedness following the Patriots' bye week in today's 10-7 loss at the Meadowlands. Also, is there a brain drain of Bill Belichick from the coaches and upper management officials that no longer work with him? And, looking at the past week of college football and finding players to fall in love with that the Pats could draft.
Are you passing a legacy of faith on to your children? I know this is so important, so I am so excited to have Casey Hilty on the podcast this week as we talk about her new book, *Her Children Arise: Passing a Legacy of Faith to the Next Generation. I am so excited because we are going to look at some of the women in the Bible and their examples. We are going to dive deep and even put ourselves in the shoes of these women in the Bible. I just love it. Also, I know you are going to learn so much from Casey. Also, I am so excited for someone to win a copy of Casey's book, *Her Children Arise: Passing a Legacy of Faith to the Next Generation as well as her Nativity Garland. All the details of this giveaway are on my website at jodirosser.com or you can click this direct link: https://kingsumo.com/g/seqmsq/her-children-arise-and-nativity-garland-giveaway Link to Depth Podcast Episode 128: Lessons from Biblical Mothers -- Rachael Adams Book Recommendations: *Lineage of Grace by Francine Rivers *Hinds Feet on High Places by Hannah Hurnard *Psalms of Ascent by Beth Moore *Pearl in the Sand by Tessa Afshar Casey Hilty is a Christian speaker, artist, worship leader, and author of *Her Children Arise: Passing a Legacy of Faith to the Next Generation. Using both storytelling and visual art, she is passionate about taking mothers on a journey from apathy to awe to fall in love—or back in love—with God and His Word. Casey recently jumped back into the world of teaching after being a stay-at-home mom for 14 years. She and her husband, Bo, have three school-aged kids, a gaggle of pets, and call South Louisiana home. You can find her on Instagram @caseyhilty and Facebook @caseyhilty1 and at www.caseyhilty.com. *Note: If you are interested in purchasing this book or the books recommended, I would love for you to use the Amazon Affiliate link above to help support the podcast. Thank you!
THE DAVID ALLIANCE TDAgiantslayer@gmail.com Intro: As much as I hate Hallmark movies (and that channel is on 24/7 at our house during Xmas) It does teach the world the mindset of marriage. We all know what happens in a Hallmark movie… one woman, 2 men, one from the past or small town… ultimately has to choose one and someone has to give up some type of dream… but they live happily ever after. HOLD ON… I don't mean it taught us what to expect in our lives… what it does do is teach us to build a pattern around what we expect in marriages today… i.e. fall in love, think it will last, hit some hard times and divorce to do it over again. Marriage is harder than it looks and not as fun as it might seem. Everyone in life has a moment or two when you did not realize the power behind that choice… listening to that voice if you will: My mom telling me you cannot go with your best friends dad to go see him graduate at boot camp… and it saved my life. AND THERE ARE TIMES… you see a choice you did make and you wonder what life would have been like without that choice… THIS IS MARRIAGE - BUT AGAIN you don't realize it till years after you got married. LIKE ME - AND MOST - you think what would my life have been like…in a good way and in a bad way and in a self reflective way… But everyone who gets married has that thought… wow the change in my life because of that one person. - This is why a covenant is so important to marriage. It holds our feet to the fire until we can see the beauty of the decision to stay with that person even if they are the wrong one. The best things that ever happened to me were due to the hardest things that ever happened to me. Because I understood a covenant - I learned to understand that in marriage. Understanding a marriage covenant helps you change your expectation… from This will make me happy (an unrealistic high selfish expectation) to this will make me more like Jesus (a realistic lowly achievable Holy expectation). Marriage is a covenant We see in Gen. 2: and Mark 10 Mark 10 7 ‘For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, 8 and the two shall become one flesh'; so then they are no longer two, but one flesh. 9 Therefore what God has joined together, let not man separate.” Eph. 5:31-33 31“For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh.” 32This mystery is profound, but I am speaking about Christ and the church. 33Nevertheless, each one of you also must love his wife as he loves himself, and the wife must respect her husband.… God's intention for marriage is not to be a contract that needs both parties to hold up their end of the deal—as 1 Corinthians 13:1 says, “…love keeps no records of right and wrongs.” God's purpose for marriage is different from the world's. It's a covenant—binding and irrevocable because of His love. I Cor. 7 states you can leave, but you can't divorce… this is covenant talk, not contract talk. Covenant: A divinely created relational bond. The administration for the paperwork was done up in heaven… it was divinely created. **Have you gone through the FOR BETTER FOR WORSE portion of your marriage… and wondered why the worse seems to come around more than the better? Because we focus on the immediate - a covenant focuses on the eternal.
As we celebrate 50 years of HIP-HOP, our special guest MINISTER SERVER founder of Hip Hop Bridge Builders and spiritual advisor at the Temple of Hip Hop not only knows the origin of HIP-HOP CULTURE but has made it his life mission to live by the motto coined by KRS-ONE himself "Hip Hop is not something you do, Hip Hop is something you live." Call in (646.787.1691) and tell us the moment you fell in Love with this thang of ours, we call HIP-HOP. Take a trip down memory lane as we discuss pivotal moments in HIP-HOP history and ask where THE CULTURE is headed over the next 50 years. MENTAL DIALOGUE asking the questions America's afraid to ask. ALL I ASK IS THAT YOU THINK --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/montoya-smith/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/montoya-smith/support
Well, what can we say that you won't hear in this episode. I mean really, what are you doing reading the description, go listen to the episode! Anyway, this movie is about two people who fall in love and then immediately decide against all logic to have a baby together. There is romance, tears, sexy times. All sorts of fun stuff in this film. Thanks to Isabella for the suggestion! #babies #christmas #children #angels #love #romance #couples #scottish #moviereview #wearethewatchersofmoviespodcast #podcast #entertainment #comedy #wearethewatchersofmoviespodcast #movie https://watchersofmovies.weebly.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/watchersofmovies/ https://www.instagram.com/watchersofmovies/ https://twitter.com/watwompodcast https://www.facebook.com/watchersofmovies/
I use intuition in my business all the time and it's been such a powerful tool for me. Joining me to talk about how to tune into your intuition and start using it in your business is Victoria Dioh. I'm fascinated by Victoria's life and career, she always has incredible stories of things that have happened to her from following her intuition and saying yes to opportunities. What You'll Learn In This Episode: - Intuition might be something you've not yet explored, so today Victoria shares how you can learn to merge your intuition with your logical mind to make some magic. - How Victoria moved away from a corporate career and became a healer after following a string of opportunities that took her around the world. - Victoria's method to help you fall in love with your life, and why manifesting is nothing without action. - We discuss why logic isn't always enough, but by following your inner wisdom you can reach your goals. Resources: - Connect with Victoria on Instagram @manifestationkitchen - Download my FREE Launch Strategy Guide - Visit the website https://thatstrategyco.com/ - Follow me on Instagram @lisajohnsonstrategist - Follow me on Facebook @lisajohnsonstrategist - Join the discussion at @thefabulous5percent - Subscribe to my YouTube channel
Welcome to Cinderella week on the pod! Aaron is back to give the best version of the classic tale a Second Chance! He and Jon (who was sick at the time of the recording) get more into the lore of the fairytale, hate on Jason Alexander's accent, and fall in love with...love.Sacred Lore of Witchcraft Instagram: @sacredloreofwhitchcraftNitecap Test Kitchen Instagram: @nitecap_testovenPodcast Socials -Email: email@example.comFacebook: @butasongpodInstagram: @butasongpodTikTok: @butasongpodTwitter: @butasongpodNext episode: Cinderella (2021)!
The guys look from the top down at what seemed like a lack of preparedness following the Patriots' bye week in today's 10-7 loss at the Meadowlands. Plus, is there a brain drain of Bill Belichick from the coaches and upper management officials who no longer work with him? And the guys take a look at the past week of college football and find players to fall in love with that the Pats could draft. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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As we head into the winter season, we round out the last few podcasts of the year with a discussion of the Japanese "snow woman" Yuki-onna. Like many of our Dark Feminine figures, she has both gentle and terrifying aspects; she can fall in love and marry, she can bring treasure, but she also freezes people to death and in some instances cannibalizes them. As a snow woman she is a deep embodiment of the yin principle, which we will explore with respect to her stories and attributes.
现在你可以到 Fly with Lily 网站免费参与我们的30日赢得早起挑战！Day 11: What is your favourite emotion to feel?第十一天：你最喜欢感受什么样的情绪？Hello. You're listening to Fly with Lily. I am your new friend, Bibiana Ford. My business name is called True Amor. Originally from the beautiful island of St. Lucia, I am currently living in London, England, because my mom wanted a better life for me and my siblings. I am a healing coach who helps women to fall in love with themselves wholeheartedly so that they can live and lead their best life from a place of true love. In my free time, I enjoy reading books on healing mindset and transformation. I do enjoy going on solo walks and giving quality time to my loved ones. My dream is to help as much(many) people to heal from past pain and to step into their beautiful self by giving themselves permission to fall in love with themselves wholeheartedly. Today, I'll be answering a question posed by Lily. What is your favourite emotion to feel? That will be love because you can make peace with your past life, find courage to live and enjoy your present life and future. That's it. Thank you for listening.你好。你正在收听《学英语环游世界》。我是你的新朋友，Bibiana Ford。我的公司名字叫True Amor。我原籍圣卢西亚美丽的岛屿，目前居住在英格兰伦敦，因为我妈妈希望我和我的兄弟姐妹能过上更好的生活。我是一位療癒教练，帮助女性全心全意地爱上自己，以便她们可以从真爱的状态中过上并引领她们最美好的生活。在业余时间，我喜欢阅读有关治疗思维和转变的书籍。我喜欢独自散步，花时间陪伴我所爱的人。我的梦想是帮助尽可能多的人从过去的伤痛中康复，通过允许自己全心全意地爱上自己，迈向美好的自己。今天，我将回答莉莉提出的一个问题：你最喜欢感受的情绪是什么，那肯定是爱。因为你可以与过去和解，找到勇气过好现在的生活并享受未来。就是这样。感谢你的倾听。Bibiana Forde, founder of True Amore, helping women to fall in love with themselves so that they can live their best life and know that they are worthy of achieving whatever they want in their life单词记忆：1.wholeheartedly (全心全意)(adverb) With complete sincerity and commitment.2.healing coach (治疗教练)(noun) Someone who guides and supports individuals in their journey toward emotional and physical healing.3.mindset (心态)(noun) A set of attitudes or beliefs that shape one's behavior and thinking.4.transformation (转变)(noun) A profound change in form or appearance; a metamorphosis.5.solo (单独的)(adjective) Alone; without companions.6.wholeheartedly (全心全意)(adverb) With complete sincerity and commitment.7.permission (允许)(noun) Authorization or consent; the act of allowing.8.fall in love with oneself (爱上自己)(phrase) Developing a deep and positive connection with oneself.9.courage (勇气)(noun) The ability to confront fear or adversity with bravery.10.past pain (过去的痛苦)(phrase) Emotional distress or suffering experienced in the past.
Kat & Cass discuss The Hunger Games and The Ballad of Songbirds & Snakes by the amazing Suzanne Collins. Question your morals as you fall in love with the villainous white boy of the month, Coriolanus Snow. Mature with Cass as she realizes that Peeta was the right choice all along. Celebrate with Kat as she correctly remembers the origin of the three finger salute. Experience Mandela effects galore and beg Suzanne Collins to write Haymitch's story. Finally, braid your hair, sing a song, and haunt awful men during this swampy episode. What's next? Chapters 48-56 of House of Sky and Breath. Thanks for listening! We'd love to hear from you! Please consider leaving a review and subscribing. Youtube: www.youtube.com/@twobookbitchespodcast Website: www.twobookbitches.com Email: firstname.lastname@example.org Twitter: @2bookbitchespod Instagram: @twobookbitchespodcast TikTok: @twobookbitchespodcast Disclaimer: Spoilers ahead & sometimes we like to swear and talk about raunchy things.
Kathy Robinson of Athena Wellness tells you how to fall in love with your exercise routine. Episode 2365: How to Fall in Love with Your Exercise Routine by Kathy Robinson of Athena Wellness on Active Living Prior to becoming a certified wellness coach and author of The Athena Principles – Simple Wellness Practices for Overworked Professionals, Kathy Robinson spent more than 25 years assessing the wellness of Fortune 500 companies. She was a Chief Audit Executive and Chief Risk Officer before turning the lens from professional assessments to personal ones and began helping her clients optimize their well-being, especially in times of transition or when striving toward new wellness goals. She also teaches and facilitates online offerings based on her wellness methodology that include practices such as writing and meditation. The original post is located here: https://athenawellness.com/blog/2021/4/1/how-to-fall-in-love-with-your-exercise-routine Visit Me Online at OLDPodcast.com Interested in advertising on the show? Visit https://www.advertisecast.com/OptimalHealthDailyDietNutritionFitness Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Kat & Cass discuss chapters 42-47 of House of Sky and Breath by Sarah J. Maas. Enjoy an episode of Love is Blind: Crescent City Edition and fall in love, sight unseen. Flip flop into a sarcophagus and yearn for the time of Shakespearean insults. Welcome the return of velvet steel and find out which brain cell Kat and Cass are sharing today. Finally, try not to sexport and keep your social insurance number secret during this treacherous episode. What's next? The Hunger Games and Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes by Suzanne Collins! Thanks for listening! We'd love to hear from you! Please consider leaving a review and subscribing. Youtube: www.youtube.com/@twobookbitchespodcast Website: www.twobookbitches.com Email: email@example.com Twitter: @2bookbitchespod Instagram: @twobookbitchespodcast Goodreads: https://www.goodreads.com/user/show/117056291-kat-cass TikTok: @twobookbitchespodcast Disclaimer: Spoilers ahead & sometimes we like to swear and talk about raunchy things.
Episode Summary This week on Live Like the World is Dying, Eleanor Goldfield comes on to talk about her film, "To the Trees," a documentary that highlights forest defense tactics in Northern California. The film is meant to call into question our current relationships to nature, how we might reframe them, and why that reframing is vital to our survival and having a livable future. Guest Info Eleanor Goldfield (she/her) is a filmmaker and journalist who works to highlight different movement and struggles. You can find her work and her film "To the Trees" at tothetreesfilm.com and artkillingapathy.com. Eleanor can also be found on Twitter @RadicalEleanor and Instagram @RadicalEleanor Host Info Inmn can be found on Instagram @shadowtail.artificery Publisher Info This show is published by Strangers in A Tangled Wilderness. We can be found at www.tangledwilderness.org, or on Twitter @TangledWild and Instagram @Tangled_Wilderness. You can support the show on Patreon at www.patreon.com/strangersinatangledwilderness. Transcript Live Like the World is Dying: Eleanor on "To the Trees" & Forest Defense **Inmn ** 00:15 Hello, and welcome to Live Like the World is Dying, your podcast for what feels like the end times. I'm your host today, Inmn Neruin, and I use they/them pronouns. Today we are talking to a filmmaker about a really beautiful film called To the Trees. And I'm really excited for you all to hear this conversation. We're going to talk a lot about logging and forest defense and just kind of like the extraction industry in general, and then just about some, you know, cultural or psychological paradigms that we have around resource extraction. But first, we are a proud member of the Channel Zero Network of anarchists podcasts. And here is a jingle from another show on that network. **Inmn ** 01:40 And we're back. Hi, thank you so much for coming on the show today. Could you introduce yourself with your name, pronouns, and a little bit about your background, and what you're here to talk about today? **Eleanor ** 01:55 Sure, thanks so much for having me. My name is Eleanor Goldfield. She/her. I'm a queer creative, radical filmmaker, and journalist. And I've been doing frontline--I hesitate to say activism--I've been doing frontline actions and journalism since 2010 together. And before that I'd been doing organizing and community organizing since about 2003, before the second Iraq War. And I'm here today to talk about my latest offering in the film domain, which is called, "To the Trees," and it's about forest defense tactics in so-called Northern California and also about our relationship to nature and the necessary shift that that must take for us to have a livable future. **Inmn ** 02:50 Cool, um--I mean, not cool that a film like this needs to get made but cool that a film like this now exists and can teach people a lot of really awesome things. I highly encourage everyone to go out and watch the movie. It's really wonderful. It's really beautiful. But could you kind of give us just like a recap of the movie. **Eleanor ** 03:17 Sure. Yeah, and the films available at ToTheTreesfilm.com. And all of my work is also available at ArtKillingApathy.com. So kind of a general overview of the film is that I went out there to do.... This is kind of how I work. I ask folks if they need any support--and I'm ground support, by the way, because I don't do heights. Although, I did climb a redwood when I was out there, which was a terrifying experience. And I'm never doing it again. **Inmn ** 03:49 They're so big, **Eleanor ** 03:51 They're ginormous. And that was my first...that was the first tree I decided to climb because...yeah, whatever. And it took me 45 minutes. And it's 200 feet up in the air, and I was terrified. And it took me like 15 minutes to get up the courage just to step off the platform. And the tree sitter, they were like, "You just step up," and I'm like, "What do you just step up? I'm gonna die," and they're like, "No, you're not. You're gonna be fine. I swear" and I'm like, "Oh God, this is so terrifying." And they're like, "Yeah, maybe you are ground support." **Inmn ** 04:20 Ground support is crucial. **Eleanor ** 04:23 It is crucial. Yes. And it's very much.... That's very much me. I was built to like just be grounded, I think. So I went out there basically saying, "I would love to help you all and do support and also, if it's cool with you, I'll bring a camera and I'd love to just hear some of your stories." And so folks were cool with that. And so there I go, traipsing into the woods. And it's a beautiful tree village. And the redwood forests, if folks have never seen them, I mean it's like Narnia. You know the forest floor is Like this plush, you know, soft and welcoming space. And then you look up and it's like the trees are so tall that you can barely see the crowns. It's just kind of like this green haze above you. And so I just started talking to folks and talked to a couple of tree sitters. I also spoke with somebody who does more of the judicial side of things, like trying to get forest...or like logging companies in court and how that kind of works with tree sitters. And then I also spoke to an indigenous woman, Marnie Atkins, who is a member of the Wiyot tribe, spoke to her a lot about perspectives on what's going on in these forests and the paradigms that are different between her people and the colonizers who came. And so it's kind of a.... [trails off] I call it at the end, I have this, I have this slide that says, "To the trees: It's a dedication, a call to action, a promise, and a militant apology." And I wanted folks to feel that, that it's an offering and it's also an invitation, not just to act in whatever ways we can but also to question the way that we think about these beautiful places, whether they be the redwood forests or whether they be the the ecosystems that are outside your front door. **Inmn ** 06:42 Yeah, yeah. And it's.... I feel funny that this is one of my first questions, but it was one of the pieces of the film that kind of really got me--it's like always knowing that Capitalism uses things for really silly things--but learning that the main use of redwood trees is to just turn them into kind of crappy decks. Is that right? **Eleanor ** 07:12 Yeah, yeah, it's based on market forces. The best use of a redwood tree is decking. And not only that, but redwoods can be 2000 years old. And of course, if you were to chop down a 2000 year old tree--which by the way, there's no law against it in California or anywhere else in the in the United States--if you were to do that, yes, that deck would last a while--it wouldn't last 2000 years--it would last a while. But the way that they cut down trees at the rate--because of course, no one's gonna wait 2000 years--they cut down these trees in their infancy. So the strong heartwood of the tree has not had a chance to develop. And so you're cutting down these trees, you know, destroying any future that they might have to rebuild an ecosystem, and you're turning them into a deck that is not even going to last like a decade because it's just not made of wood that has had a chance to mature. And so you're literally destroying burgeoning ecosystems for the sake of a deck that is going to last less than, you know, the length of a Britney Spears' single. It's just...it's ridiculous. **Inmn ** 08:35 Yeah, yeah, I feel like that's one of the harder things that I struggle with when really thinking about industrial Capitalism is just the...it's like the cost of what it...like what it costs to do to the planet versus what is gotten from that. And it's not even like, oh, you're gonna get something that's like, "We cut down this tree and it's gonna last this family multi-generations," you know, it's like a piece of shit that's gonna rot and fall apart in a decade. **Eleanor ** 09:12 And that's the whole, you know, that's one of the primary issues with Capitalism is that it treats things that are finite, like trees and clean air and clean water, as if they're infinite. And it treats things that are infinite, like ones and zeros on a computer, as if they're finite. Like, "Oh, we don't have the money." And, I mean, it's like--I can't remember who it was-- maybe it was Alan Watts, who said, "That's kind of like saying, 'You don't have enough inches to build a house.'" Like that doesn't make any sense. Like of course you have more money because you just make it up. It's all a fairy tale. Whereas the things that we can't just make up like a 2000 year old tree or a clean river, you treat as entirely disposable, and that is one of the primary issues with the paradigm of Capitalism and thereby colonialism, which was the battering ram of Capitalism. **Inmn ** 10:08 Yeah. Yeah. I'm wondering if you could tell us a little bit about what are the life cycles or growth cycles or logging cycles like in places that are being [testing words] harvested? Destroyed? Whichever word. **Eleanor ** 10:34 Yeah, that's that euphemism, right? "Oh, we're just harvesting." No! So, basically, there are several different cycles that can be used. I think one of the shortest ones for redwoods is 45 or 50 years. So if you clear-cut and then you--and redwoods are actually one of the few trees that can sprout, like from a stump. Like it's self...I can't remember what it's called. Self-sprouting or something? And so you have to wait 45 or 50 years. Now, whether they always do that or not, is up for debate, especially depending on what they're hoping to get from the products. But it's 45 or 50 years. Some will say, "Oh, we're gonna leave this plot for 100 years," or whatever. And again, whether that's done or not, is up for debate. And it's also difficult because industrial logging has only been around since like, you know, 120 years or so. So when we talk about the amount of time you really need to grow these forests, it's like we're going back to a time before this was even a conversation because you couldn't possibly tear down the forests that quickly. And so we're in this kind of odd liminal space where people are talking about, "Oh, we're gonna have to let this grow again for 100 years," but 100 years ago this wasn't even a contemplation. And so the cycles are based on, again, like the market forces. LIke, okay, well, at 45 or 50 years these trees will be ready to be harvested and then can be used to do whatever we want with them, you know? Truck them off to the sawmill. And that, again, is it.... Well, I could go off into so many different tangents, but I'll pause. **Inmn ** 12:36 I do.... We love tangents. We love rants. So this wasn't surprising to me, but I've spent like a little bit of time in the coal fields of West Virginia, and it seems like there's this kind of similar thing in logging where there's a strong guidance to preserve the cardboard frame of what things look like from a road or something, you know, so it's like the devastation appears a lot less impactful. I am curious what kind of lengths or strategies logging companies go to--or the State goes to--to make it seem like nothing all that bad is happening? **Eleanor ** 13:25 Yeah, absolutely. And it's funny you brought up West Virginia because my first documentary was actually about West Virginia. And I talked a lot about the coal fields. And I actually did a flight above them because you can't--I mean, to your point--you can't see it from the roads. And you can really only see the vast devastation if you're up in a plane. Or if you have a drone or something like that. So in California, they call it the 'visual impact' or commonly called 'the beauty screen.' And it's this idea that, particularly Inmnorthern California--because Northern California, unlike West Virginia, which is very proud of its coal, Northern California doesn't want you to think it's proud of logging--it wants you to think that it's super proud of the trees, which is really twisted. **Inmn ** 14:21 Yeah. Yeah. **Eleanor ** 14:22 It's like being a serial killer and then being like, "I have a human rights organization." So they will.... Right before you get to a lot of these THPs, that's timber harvest plans, you're driving through, for instance, the Avenue of the Giants, which is part of a redwood forest, Redwood National Forest, and it's gorgeous, right? And you would never think that just a few miles up in the hills there are these vast bald spots. And so they want to ensure that that stays the case, right? So you just keep driving and you keep driving up the one on one and you just see trees and then the Pacific Ocean is over here and you're like, "Oh my god, California is amazing!" **Inmn ** 15:06 "We love trees!" **Eleanor ** 15:07 Right. But it's being destroyed. And you can't see that. And it's very important that you can't see that because the companies that own this land--because most of it is privately owned logging land--and the companies have this like...one of the guys in the film says, "This eco groovy PR campaign and this facade." And they want you to think that everything is done respectfully and sustainably when, of course, you can't clear-cut sustainably. So they want to make sure that you can't see it because that would fly in the face of their 'eco groovy facade.' And part of that is also that they have a certification, which is called FSC, Forest Stewardship Council certification. Which if you've ever been to a Home Depot or Lowe's, oftentimes FSC wood will be more expensive because the idea is that it's sustainable. And so you get to feel good about yourself, you know, like, "Oh, sweet, this isn't from a clear-cut," but it is. And the Forest Stewardship Council, even if it started with honorable aims, is a complete...it's just a rubber stamp for the logging industry. And there's been a long list of horribleness, including stealing indigenous land, clear-cutting old growth forests, and you know, and yet they have that little FSC stamp. So people think, consumers think, that this is done sustainably. But of course, it's not. And so this is all part of that greenwashing campaign, whether it be the 'beauty screen' or the FSC stamp, it's all part of that push to ensure that the consumer remains in the dark and thinks that, particularly, Northern California is sustainably harvesting their, in quotes, 'harvesting' these trees and ensuring that they will be around forever. **Inmn ** 17:09 Golly, yeah. And I imagine people also...like the consumer on the end of like...they, you know, they go into Home Depot, or they're hiring a contractor to build their crappy deck, I'm sure they're really ecstatic that they have this...are getting this redwood deck. Like, I feel like it's just the name, you know, "Redwood," it sounds so majestic. It sounds so like, "Wow, this is gonna last me a really long time." Is that kind of like part of it too, do you think? **Eleanor ** 17:44 Yeah, I think it sounds.... You know, I was in bands for years, and people used to talk about the wood that went into their instruments like, "Oh, it's mahogany neck." and someone's like, "Oh! It's a mahogany neck." **Inmn ** 17:57 It's an electric guitar...like it doesn't matter. **Eleanor ** 18:01 And sure, I mean,as a former audio tech, I can be like, okay, I've heard the difference in acoustic guitars where you're like, "Okay. That. Yes." But it is also pretty.... I mean, mahogany is not endangered in that sense. But still, it's pretty twisted to be like, "Yeah, the best way to use this tree is to turn it into an instrument or a deck or whatever. It's that like, again, in Capitalism, nothing has inherent value in and of itself. Nobody's like, "Oh, wow, an oak tree! That's super cool!" Everyone's like, "Hmm, what can I do with that?" It's like, maybe you could just leave it the fuck alone. I don't know, Maybe that could be a thing? But nothing in Capitalism has inherent value in and of itself. So it always has to be twisted and contorted into something. And that carries with it a certain status, right? Like, oh, if you have this deck made out of redwood or if you have that guitar made out of mahogany, it becomes a status symbol. And so that is also part of like the poisoning that is Capitalism, psychologically, I feel. **Inmn ** 19:06 Golly, I wish--I know, this is a recurring theme on the show--but if only our lives were more like those of hobbits. I mean, they just have a Party Tree, and that's a community resource. And they're like, "We need a party tree. It needs to be like 3000 years old and that's a party tree." If it's not 3000 years old. It's not a Party Tree. Or, yeah, the forest on the edge of town that everyone's like too afraid to go into. **Eleanor ** 19:40 Yeah, well, and this is actually something that I think is funny, too, that we have so many stories, whether that be through, you know, Lord of the Rings, or like when I was growing up, I partially grew up in Sweden, and there's so many stories still today about the Forest and its power. And I feel like that's also an interesting relationship that we have with the forest is that we are a little bit afraid of it. And that also...that also pushes us into this relationship where, okay, well, I'm gonna conquer my fears, right? As opposed to the stories--and there are these stories even in European cultures--that talk about the beauty of the forest and what the forest gives us. But that's also an interesting dynamic between a lot of Indigenous stories that I've heard where, yes, there might be like some being that lives in the forest that you don't want to interact with. But a lot of it is also about how, "Oh my gosh, look at all of the beauty and the life that we get from the forest," as opposed to, "Woods are terrifying. Don't mess with them at all. Just don't go there." It's like, but that's also going to dictate how you feel about cutting down a bunch of trees. **Inmn ** 21:04 Yeah, it's wild that fear of the forest means we have to destroy the forest. It's a bad mentality. As much as I love a story about the Dark Forest, you know, and wish that that was like a more sustainable option, growing a more deep connection to the forest is probably a more sustainable way to go about things. Did you ever see Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind? **Eleanor ** 21:33 Yes, I did. **Inmn ** 21:34 Yeah. Incredible movie about a toxic forest that will fucking kill everyone who comes into it. Because it eventually was like, "No humans. You can't. No, I can't take anymore. Here's poison." **Eleanor ** 21:50 Don't blame it really. **Inmn ** 21:52 Yeah, and it's like, "No, I need several thousand years to recuperate from the harm that you've done and eventually I'll be a forest you can come in again." **Eleanor ** 22:04 Right. Right. Well, and I think... We talk about that in mutual aid spaces, or in organizing spaces, like, okay, if harm has been caused and there needs to be time to recover then possibly we can get to the point where we can be in community together with that person who did the harm.... It's like, we do that as humans. And it's necessary, right? And that is exactly what ecosystems need too. Like, the idea of--this is also how we fuck it up in terms of the Capitalist mentality--the idea of like, "Oh, we're going to leave that to grow for another 45 years before we cut it down again," that's not allowing a relationship to recuperate, right? That is, once again, treating something in that violent way, like the violence of ownership versus stewardship, right? Like, ownership is a violent relationship--I mean, just look at slavery--but stewardship suggests a respect. And I think there's also space for fear there, too, right? I think that, you know, when I was a kid walking through woods, I would feel a little...maybe a little scared, but I would also feel safe, like, "Oh, I'm safe within the woods." So I think we can carry both of those at once. And I think that sometimes when you have a deep respect for something, there might be a moment where you're like, "Oh, that's, that's creepy." But there's also this feeling of like, "I'm safe here." And I think that, you know, I think that carrying multiple truths at the same time and multiple thoughts is just beneficial. But yeah, I think that the idea of allowing places to recover is super important, while also recognizing that we have a role in that. And that's something that Marnie talks about in--and actually one of the tree sitters as well--talks about in the film is this idea that the relationship we need to have with nature is not removing ourselves from nature. And I always think of...I spoke with somebody who does work in Africa with the Maasai, and she was saying that the Maasai were removed from their ancestral lands in order to create a conservation park. But what happened with the ecosystem when they were removed is the ecosystem started to fall apart, because the Maasai were an integral--and had been for 1000s of years--an integral part of that ecosystem. And so it belies that notion that we are somehow outside of ecosystems. No, we are super reliant on them. And I think that kind of that kind of thinking is also super important to remember that like, you know, Indigenous peoples have used, for instance, wildfires, as a way to steward the land, because they're not the wildfires that we see today. They were wildfires that were able to replenish the soil and the land, get rid of invasives, and things like that. So the idea that humans are a part of these ecosystems, and that we have to learn those ways of being and rid ourselves of the notion that we can somehow be outside of, and other than, the ecosystems. **Inmn ** 25:29 I mean, it's like, it's.... I feel like, it's the same thing with most struggles out in the world is we have the tendency to want to remove ourselves from those things. And it is usually detrimental to those causes for us to think of ourselves as outside of everything--which, you know, obviously, there's struggles that we should send our specific voices around and that we should...like certain people should like not make about themselves--but like, for the most part, we are entrenched in all of in all of the thing. And we have to be an active part of them to fix them. **Eleanor ** 26:13 Totally. And I think that, you know, the idea of like, we should always be a part of these struggles, and not make them about ourselves, right, like the struggle to defend redwoods is not about us. It's just that in our own space, we can have these conversations about what it means for us humans to be in the struggle, just like I think, you know, right now, I've been in conversation with several fellow Jews about what's going on right now and what what we're dealing with as Jews. That is not something that I want to put out into the world like up on, you know, I don't want to spend a lot of time on it because it takes the focus away from Palestine. But within our Jewish community, I think it's an important conversation to have. So it's like...It's that...It's that way of being in the struggle. And then if you--just like I think white people need to have conversations with each other about what it means to...like what does Black Lives Matter really mean? And what does dismantling racism really mean? Don't do that at a Black Lives Matter protest, okay. That is not the time, but in our own space and time. So I think, again, you can hold both of those, and I think it's important to. **Inmn ** 27:29 Yeah, golly, to go tangent for a second on that, like, I don't know, I read this article yesterday, I think, about this.... It was an interview with this Palestinian man who was talking about being asked about antisemitism and like his response to it was like, Israel is.... Israel as a State. Israel displaced Jews living as Arabs in Palestine. Like, Israel is bad for Jewishness and Jewish people. **Eleanor ** 28:15 Yes, thank you. **Inmn ** 28:16 And this is like all part of this, like colonizing myth, and any colonizing myth, is to create these others to create a "side," or whatever. I don't know. **Eleanor ** 28:29 Yeah, that's so true. Israel is the greatest threat to Jews in the world right now, I think. **Inmn ** 28:37 Um, too.... Not that I don't want to talk about this stuff more but to veer back towards the movie, I am curious about the collaboration between different...like attacking the problem from different angles. And in the movie, there's kind of this triple-pronged approach that is presented as there's people on the ground doing stuff in the trees, there's people doing legal work, there's indigenous people doing stewardship, and then there's people coming in to make movies about it. And I'm wondering if you could talk a little bit about how, like, all of these things interact and like help each other. **Eleanor ** 29:32 Sure. So, it was actually Tom Wheeler, who works at Epic in California, who said that we exist in an ecosystem with each other, which I liked. And he was talking about how--and he works on the legal side--and he was talking about why the tree sitters are important. And I really appreciated that because I think a lot of times we get, you know, the classic saying that like, "When anarchists meet, we meet in a circle. And that's also how I do firing ranges." And unfortunately, like it's true--not just with anarchists, it's just that my anarchist friend happened to say that. I think it's everybody on the left, regardless of what...if you have a title for your preferred angle. But I think it so often is the case that it's like, "No, my tactic is the most important. If you don't want to do my tactic then you're wrong and you're an asshole and you're standing in the way," and it's like, but not everybody can do the thing that you're doing. Like, I can't climb--I mean, I can climb a tree, but I won't, there's like, you know, the floor is lava or some shit--and not a lot of people have the ability to get up into the woods, to take that space and time. And a lot of people don't have the expertise to do legal battles. You know, we need a lot of good lawyers out there. I think the Lakota Law Project taught us that. Look what's happening in Atlanta. Like. you need good lawyers. So I think instead of getting on people's cases, about tactics, I think it's really important that we recognize that whatever your passion is, whatever your expertise or your drive is, there is a place and a need for that in our movements and in whatever struggle. And so I really appreciated that about the folks that I spoke with, is that they all were complementary and understanding of the other people in the struggle and understood that the goal was the same, was to protect these spaces and protect them out of this feeling of love for these spaces. And I think that's the other thing that's really important is that nobody was doing this for the, you know, the Instagram likes or because they thought it...because it paid the most money or because anything like...they were literally like, "Because I love these spaces," either because I have a strong ancestral connection to them or because I've just fallen in love with them from being around them. And so I think that that's the other thing and that this diversity of tactics is necessary when confronting something so vast and so disgusting as colonialism and Capitalism. We have to do whatever we can. And these folks are doing whatever they can. And Pat, one of the tree sitters, actually talks about this too in the film, like, sit wherever you can, do whatever you can in the ecosystem that you know, in the ecosystem that you love. Like, it doesn't have to be in a redwood. Cool if it is, but we don't have to choose the most superlative ecosystem or the most superlative place to do this. All ecosystems are worthy and Inmneed of our collaboration and protection. And again, in whatever ways we can. **Inmn ** 32:57 Yeah, yeah. It's really disheartening to watch spaces kind of rip themselves apart in being upset that everyone is not doing the tactic that they want. And that is something that I've always really appreciated about, especially, forest defense campaigns or like other kinds of extraction industry defenses--I can't think of words right now--is just the recognition that we need a lot of different kinds of people to do this work. And, you know, I feel like maybe part of that is people maybe having gone and done things and then gotten in a lot of legal trouble and being like, "Oh, fuck, we need lawyers," and then like, realizing like, "Oh, lawyers are really cool!" But, yeah, that's something I just really appreciate about those campaigns. Um, yeah, I don't know, maybe this is a funny question. Say I'm some random person--or not random--just I'm a person listening to this podcast who's been like curious about forest defense and doesn't really know where to start or how to get into that. Like, I want to.... I've never done forest defense and I want to go get involved in a forest defense campaign, either one that's near me or one that's, maybe, far away. Do you have any advice for someone like that? **Eleanor ** 34:48 Sure. I mean, I think just start digging into folks who have the knowledge that you're interested in. So like Inmnorthern California, there's the tree sitters union, I think they're on Instagram @thetreesittersunion. There's also, like down around where I am, close to Appalachia, there's Appalachians Against Pipelines. Greenpeace does a lot of like trainings, like climbing trainings and things like that. And those are also spaces where you might be able to meet folks that are like minded. But honestly, like in terms of getting started on a campaign, like.... You know, in the film, again, they just say, just, you know, I" walked up...we walked up and we saw that there was a chainsaw at the bottom of this tree And were like, 'Oh, I guess we'll sit in this tree.'" I think people feel like there has to be this, you know, there has to be the war room where you got all the plans and you got the poster board and you got paper clips and all that. But you don't! Like yes, plan is good so you have water and shit, but it doesn't have to be this really elaborate. campaign to start with. And earlier this year, I was in Germany because I was doing a tour of my film about West Virginia coal in the coal regions of Germany. And I went to this tree village that is absolutely gorgeous. And folks were still living there, even though the campaign had kind of moved on, and I was asking them, like, "Okay, so what's the story here?" And it was the same thing. It was like, "Well, we just didn't want them to cut down this forest." I mean, it really is that simple. Like, I think, again, there is this...there's kind of this mystique to the idea of frontline defense. And, yes, it can build to something where you've got several tree villages or you have, you know, a resistance camp blocking a pipeline that's also like a food forest. Like, sure it can become that. But you don't need to start with that. You just need to start with yourself and some comrades, and this, again, this feeling of love for this place that is threatened. And again, like looking for organizations or like minded folks--and the ones that I mentioned are good places to start--but there are definitely others that I don't know of personally. **Inmn ** 37:14 Yeah. I'm having...I guess having witnessed campaigns in a lot of different places, I'm curious about this. Are there any kind of differences that you noticed between forest defense campaigns here in the United States, or like Turtle Island, versus in Europe, or any kind of like other places that you've been? Either in terms of repression, tactics, or just like how people organize? **Eleanor ** 37:52 So, I'd say in terms of the repression tactics, I mean, people in Europe--I can only speak to, currently, Germany and Sweden--but people were very shocked and disgusted at what happened to Tortuguita and what happened down in Atlanta in terms of facing terrorism charges and Rico charges. But there is also, I mean, in Germany, earlier this year, the cops brutally beat people who were trying to save a small town, Lützerath, from being destroyed for an open coal pit mine. So in terms of the direct pushback, the violence, they're not getting shot, but they are getting the shit beat out of them. And so there's absolutely that understanding that, you know, fascism is on the rise across the globe. And neither Europe nor the United States have to look very far in their history, or their present really,to find ways of emulating the fascist state that they are moving towards. And so, in terms of repression, I think it's mostly like the legal battles that are the main difference between the US and Europe. And I think in terms of organizing, I do see a lot of similarities, basically, because it's the same story. It's people who were like, "Actually, you know what, no, you can't fucking do that. I'm not gonna let you ruin this." And I do find a little bit of the same problems in terms of organizing. Like, for instance, Inmnorthern Sweden--which a lot of people don't know that Sweden, Finland, and Norway have indigenous peoples that were then colonized--so the Sami are the indigenous people of the far-north and their ancestral lands blanket across what is now Norway, Finland, Sweden, and parts of Russia. And that's also where a lot of forests are. And it's up in the Arctic Circle. And there's a lot of still culturally important practices, like reindeer herding, that happen there that are being disrupted by deforestation and mining. You know, like Sweden announced recently that, "Oh, we found lithium in the north." Oh, great! **Inmn ** 40:24 Oh no. Leave it there! **Eleanor ** 40:26 Yeah, exactly. Don't tell Elon Musk. So, yeah, there's a push to protect these spaces but also this difficulty of like, okay, how do we, as non-indigenous people in Sweden make these inroads. And the Sami are historically very reticent of working with Swedes--I don't blame them--or Norwegians or what have you, because of what's happened in the past. And I noticed that here, too, right. It's difficult sometimes for people who are not indigenous to make those connections in indigenous communities. And so I see a lot of that struggle as well. But at the same time, again, when you are coming at it from this place of, "Well, I too want to protect this out of love. And not because I'm looking for some kind of accolade or whatever," that I think that you can make those connections and you can make that struggle collaborative, as long as you're coming at it from that space. And, so I do see that happening in places outside of the US and I think it's rad. **Inmn ** 41:43 Hell yeah. That's really great. Golly, this is a really weird question, but, you know, my brain's always on a tangent. Are there any forest defense influencers? Is this a thing in the internet and the internet world? I'm imagining the person who's just there for, you know, Instagram likes, or something, and I'm like, is that real? **Eleanor ** 42:10 So like, not like the straight up forest defenders, but there's definitely like the Sierra Club type that are like.... You know, so, again, it's like this kind of gray area--I'm a big fan of recognizing nuance--it's like this nuanced space where the person cares and doesn't want to see it destroyed but also wants to virtue signal to people that they care. And that gets all gummed up in the whole Capitalist shit show. So yeah, it's a gummy area. **Inmn ** 42:48 Yeah, and this is--golly, whatever, I love funny questions--so I'm curious about this from, you know, I've had my own experiences with different with different organizations, but is there any kind of tension or like problems that you do see between on the ground direct action campaigns versus these larger NGO or like nonprofit structures like the Sierra Club or Greenpeace? Yeah, I don't know. I'm not asking for a shit post about these groups or anything, just some of the nuances or complications that can come up? **Eleanor ** 43:38 Yeah, I mean, again, Capitalism fucks everything up. There were a couple of organizations that I reached out to when I was in California, and they were first happy to talk to me, but then when they realized that I was there supporting and speaking to tree sitters, who are, by definition, breaking the law, because it's private timber land, did not want to speak to me anymore. And I think that's very clearly--like whether they personally wanted to or not is not the point--but as an organization, I think they realized, "Oh, well, our donors are, I don't know, some rich asshole over here. And if we do that, if we engage with people who are very overtly breaking the law, then that's not good for our bottom line. And we need our bottom line in order to keep protecting the forest.: So in their mind, they were doing that so that they could continue to protect the forest. But of course, this creates that splintering that is so useful for the system. In reality, they should be working with the tree sitters. Like, you have the ability to work together to protect these spaces but because you have to make sure that you get the foundation money or these rich donors or whatever, you can't. And so I absolutely see that and I think that's also a global problem because a lot of this does cost money, you know? Like, rope is not cheap. Just making sure that people have supplies and food and things. Like shit costs money. And it's not like tree sitters get paid. So it is difficult, but I tend to--I shouldn't say...I don't want to be prejudiced ahead of time, but I've I find that I often am--be prejudiced against a big organization that says, "We are protecting the forest." It's like, are you? Or are you doing like forest walks and shit--which is cool--and like picking up trash. But that is not the same thing as standing between a chainsaw and a tree. And that's not to say that like, "I'm more radical than you." It's just a necessary context, I think, for understanding, again, this ecosystem that we're a part of. Like, we need more people to be the ones standing in between the trains on the tree. And I think we need fewer people being the ones, you know, typing up newsletters about this forest walk where you can plant a sapling or some shit, just in terms of what we need. That's what I would say. **Inmn ** 46:25 Yeah. Yeah, It's weird how similar the idea of an NGO or something being getting donors to lead a forest walk.... It's the trap of building an organization that gets too big and has too many dependencies on Capital to sustain itself. It's, yeah, it's.... I don't know. I think about this a lot with different projects that I've been a part of. Like I'm part of this community theater group and I'm like, we can't get too big or it's gonna cause huge problems. We can't be too successful or else it all falls apart. Yeah, I think that would be my biggest thing with some larger NGOs is it's cool if y'all's thing is like bringing in money, that's cool. But it seems like the real problem is an organization like that's inability to accept a diversity of tactics or donors to really look past--and maybe this is a shitpost--but the idea wealthy donors who want the experience of like donating to an environmental nonprofit and want that experience of like bringing their kids on the forest walk, this is the same thing as getting a like, quote, "heirloom redwood forest timber deck that is sustainably 'harvested'" Like it's the same thing. **Eleanor ** 48:15 Yeah, it is very twisted. And of course I think that's the problem is that there's no such thing as money without strings. And so when you have these big donors--and I know this from just other spaces that I've organized, even outside of the environment--okay, well, so-and-so is gonna give this much money, but then they also want us to build the website this way or they want us to make sure that the action looks like this. And it's like, but also these people don't know anything about organizing. So then their ideas are shit and you're like, "Look, the whole entire campaign is falling apart because you want this sign to say something completely stupid," and it happens all the time. And that's why, unfortunately, we as organizers have to have this balance of like, "Okay, we need this much money, but if we just get it from one or two donors, what do they want in return for all of this cash?" And there's always going to be something. They're not just going to be like, "Hey, really happy that we can support you in whatever you're doing," like, that's never the case. So yeah, it sucks. But yeah, until we can just, you know, pay rent in good deeds or something, that's gonna be the problem. **Inmn ** 49:35 Or like shift our cultural mindset beyond like...you know, if I'm a wealthy donor or something, then the important thing is that the people have the money and resources to do the work, not that I get anything in return from it. I don't know, I feel like--and maybe this is my bias, having not traveled much outside of the States--is that we have this very individualistic mentality around everything, and that that extends to forest and extraction resource defense and like.... I don't know. **Eleanor ** 50:15 It is a.... And one of the people in the film Marni, a member of the Wiyot tribe, talks about this individualistic paradigm that has perpetuated, that we as children of Empire have, because it's been passed down to us. And even those of us who have been radicalized, I like to say that there's no way that you can ever be like 100% AntiCapitalist. Like it's a daily struggle, just like you have to be antiracist everyday and antifacist. Like, there is no like, "Got it! No, I'm done." So she talks about this like this--and you know, to go back to Lord of the Rings-- **Inmn ** 50:18 The real goal podcast, right? It's not. But... **Eleanor ** 50:27 It all has to do with Lord of the Rings. She likens it to Gollum. And if anybody listening has not read Lord of the Rings, first of all, please do so. But secondly, Gollum is not a character that you want to emulate. Like, that is not how you're supposed to read that. Like, oh, Gollum is cool? Like, he is literally driven to mental anguish and dismay and physical like breakdown because he's so obsessed with this one ring. And that is not a good thing, right? It's not something where you're like, "Yeah, Gollum!" and he loses like all his community. Like, he's just by himself. And yet, we have built an entire system on the paradigm of Gollum. Like be by yourself. Fuck community. Care only about the thing that you can own and that can thereby, of course, own you in return. It's so fucked up. And yet, that is like the foundation of Capitalism. And so of course, when we step into a forest...and is one of the lines that I have in my first film about West Virginia is "How can you look at a mountain and think 'mine.'" Which is, of course, a double entendre. Which, I'm a sucker for those. But it's like, that's what we do. We've been programmed into stepping into these beautiful spaces and thinking, "Oh, I wonder how much this would be worth if I destroyed it?" Like, what kind of fucked way is that to look.... And it happens, you know, I have a toddler and people will kind of laugh when I'm like, "We go outside and we hug trees together," and they'll laugh. And I'm like, "So that's kind of weird that you think it's funny in like a derogatory way, because wouldn't it be more fucked up if I had like a toddler axe, or some shit, and I was teaching him how to destroy these things? Like, why do we have this paradigm where it's weird to teach your kids to love nature but totally cool to give a five year old a hunting rifle or something. Like what in the hell? And I'm not saying that you shouldn't hunt. But we hunt for fun. Like we don't hunt because we need food. We hunt because it's fun. **Inmn ** 53:17 Or for the trophy. **Eleanor ** 53:20 Right, for the trophy, which you can say is the same with the redwood deck. It's a trophy. It's something to show off to people. You don't need it. Like you could, you could stack stones and have a deck. Like, you don't need the fucking redwoods. And she also made...Marni makes this point in the film too, like, of course, people have used wood for generations, to use for firewood, to widdle sculptures, to build things. And she's like, "I totally get that, but you can't do it at this scale. You have to have this relationship with nature so that you only take what you need and make sure that there's enough for the next time," and you see this throughout indigenous cultures. You know, Robin Wall Kimmerer talks about it in "Braiding Sweetgrass," the idea that--and I don't remember if it was her tribe or another one that she's talking about--would go out and get fish, but then they wouldn't get all of the fish. They'd just get the ones that they needed, right? And they would know that there's all these fish 'getting away'--in the white perspective--but they're not 'getting away,' they are surviving so that you can go fishing next time. And so again, it's like this...it's a very short sighted paradigm that is totally individualistic and totally destructive, that doesn't.... And again, like Gollum is totally destroyed but he doesn't see it himself. It's only people on the outside that are like, "Oh, God, that guy's not doing well." And yet again, we don't, we don't see it from the inside. And so I think that's why it's so important to step outside of that programming and just see the logic or the illogic of these situations and allow ourselves to fall in love with nature and question why that sounds corny when we say it out loud. Like, why is it corny to fall in love with a tree or a river or what have you. I mean, like, that is actually really beautiful. And it is necessary if we are to get to the space where we can say, "Defend what you love." Because if you don't love something, you're less likely to defend it, right? Like, you know, of course, that's why parents always defend their children because you have this natural need, like you love your child so much, or your partner, or your friend, or what have you. You're less likely to defend a total stranger. It's just like a human thing, or an animal thing. And so if we don't love these places, these spaces, then we're less likely to be moved to defend them. **Inmn ** 56:01 Yeah. Golly, so don't be like Gollum. Don't hoard ultimate power and destruction. Be like a hobbit and enjoy the 3000 year old party tree because it's a beautiful tree. **Eleanor ** 56:19 Amen. **Inmn ** 56:23 Well, this seems like a great place to kind of tie it off, and because we're also almost at time, but do you have any final thoughts or questions that I didn't ask you that you wish I'd asked you? And then after that, anything that you want to plug? **Eleanor ** 56:43 Just, I mean, it was something that I included at the end of the film, my good friend Carla Bergman co-wrote a book "Joyful Militancy," which I also recommend to everyone. **Inmn ** 56:53 Oh, yeah. We had Carla on not too long ago. **Eleanor ** 56:57 I love Carla so much. So one of the things that they talk about in that book, Carla and Nick, is this idea of rigid radicalism and the need to be fluid but not flimsy. And I think that that's something that...that's another practice that I'm trying to get more into, because I think a lot of times when we have a stance or when we have a perspective, we can get stuck in it. And then, we can let it weigh us down. And I think it's really important, no matter what fight we're fighting, to be able to be fluid because it will allow us to confront the next struggle, the next shitstorm, the next fire, or whatever. But if we are too rigid, we will get caught up in the flood or the flames and be carried away. And so I think it's important to stay fluid but not flimsy. And yeah. **Inmn ** 57:59 Sick. Are there any places that you can be found on the internet where you would like to be found or where your work can be found? I know you plugged stuff at the beginning but we'll throw stuff in the show notes. **Eleanor ** 58:14 All of my work is at artkillingapathy.com That's where my films are, my music, my poetry, and journalism. This specific film To the Trees is at tothetreesfilm.com and I am on Instagram and Twitter @RadicalEleanor. **Inmn ** 58:32 Wonderful. And are you working on anything? Got anything coming up soon that you're working on? **Eleanor ** 58:38 I think I'm going to work on some of the footage that I got in Germany as kind of like an addendum, or a compliment, to my first film about coal regions in West Virginia. I have footage from coal regions in Germany that I think I'm gonna put into something. **Inmn ** 58:58 Great. Well, thanks so much for coming on the show today. **Eleanor ** 59:01 Thanks so much for having me. **Inmn ** 59:08 If you enjoyed this episode, Defend the Party Tree. You can also tell people about the show. You can support the show financially by supporting our publisher, Strangers in a Tangled Wilderness. And you can find us on Patreon at patreon.com/strangersinatangledwilderness. You can also go to tangledwilderness.org and check out some cool books that we have for sale, because we are a publisher. We put out books, we put out zines, we put out podcasts, obviously. And we're working on all kinds of really fun stuff. So, go check it out and get a cool book. We also do this zine of the month club where for like 10 bucks a month, you can get a zine version of our monthly feature mailed to you anywhere in the world. 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