Podcasts about science denier conversations

Scientists are increasingly finding their expertise questioned by non-experts who claim they've done their own “research.” Whether advocating Ivermectin to treat Covid, insisting that climate change is a hoax, or asserting that the Earth is flat, doubters are now dismissed by being told to “do your own research!” But is a Wiki page evidence? What about a YouTube video? What happens to our quest for truth along the way? Plus, a science historian goes to a Flat Earth convention to talk reason. Guests: Yvette Johnson-Walker – epidemiologist at the University of Illinois College of Veterinary Medicine, and affiliate faculty with the University of Illinois Chicago School of Public Health. Nathan Ballantyne – Professor of Philosophy at Fordham University, in New York. David Dunning – Social psychologist and Professor of Psychology at the University of Michigan. Lee McIntyre – Research fellow at the Center for Philosophy and History at Boston University, author of “Post-Truth,” and “How to Talk to a Science Denier: Conversations with Flat Earthers, Climate Deniers, and Others Who Defy Reason.” *Originally aired February 7, 2022 Featuring music by Dewey Dellay and Jun Miyake Big Picture Science is part of the Airwave Media podcast network. Please contact advertising@airwavemedia.com to inquire about advertising on Big Picture Science. You can get early access to ad-free versions of every episode by joining us on Patreon. Thanks for your support! Please take our listener survey! Help us get to know you and enter to win a $500 Amazon gift card!   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Scientists are increasingly finding their expertise questioned by non-experts who claim they've done their own “research.” Whether advocating Ivermectin to treat Covid, insisting that climate change is a hoax, or asserting that the Earth is flat, doubters are now dismissed by being told to “do your own research!” But is a Wiki page evidence? What about a YouTube video? What happens to our quest for truth along the way? Plus, a science historian goes to a Flat Earth convention to talk reason. Guests: Yvette Johnson-Walker – epidemiologist at the University of Illinois College of Veterinary Medicine, and affiliate faculty with the University of Illinois Chicago School of Public Health. Nathan Ballantyne – Professor of Philosophy at Fordham University, in New York. David Dunning – Social psychologist and Professor of Psychology at the University of Michigan. Lee McIntyre – Research fellow at the Center for Philosophy and History at Boston University, author of “Post-Truth,” and “How to Talk to a Science Denier: Conversations with Flat Earthers, Climate Deniers, and Others Who Defy Reason.” *Originally aired February 7, 2022 Featuring music by Dewey Dellay and Jun Miyake Big Picture Science is part of the Airwave Media podcast network. Please contact advertising@airwavemedia.com to inquire about advertising on Big Picture Science. You can get early access to ad-free versions of every episode by joining us on Patreon. Thanks for your support! Please take our listener survey! Help us get to know you and enter to win a $500 Amazon gift card!   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What exactly is science? It's something that philosophers have grappled with quite a bit. Well, the good news is that you don't have to have a philosophical understanding of the foundation of science to understand science. Lee McIntyre is a Research Fellow at the Center for Philosophy and History of Science at Boston University and an Instructor in Ethics at Harvard Extension School.He is the author of many many books, including “How to Talk to a Science Denier,” Post-Truth, and The Scientific Attitude.He sits down with Greg to look at science from a philosophical angle. They discuss flat earthers, anti-vaxxers and disinformation on the internet, paradigm shifts, the politicization of everything and becoming a philosopher of science.Episode Quotes:The problem with misinformation and science denial It's that it polarizes us and demonizes the other side. It creates a us versus them dynamic around empirical issues, so that we literally fall into, you know, and different teams and hate the people on the other side. And that gives scientists an impossible task to do good science communication.Science denial isn't newScience denial has been around for as long as science has. And I don't think anybody with a straight face can say that science denial is worse now than it was in Galileo's time. More on science deniersThey think of themselves as being more scientific than the scientists. More open-minded and more skeptical at the same time. That they're really the rigorous thinkers and that scientists are biased.Show Links:Recommended Resources:Richard Feynman - WikipediaKarl Popper - WikipediaMemoirs of an Unregulated Economist, StiglerBehind the Curve FilmGuest Profile:Faculty Profile at Boston UniversityLee McIntyre's WebsiteLee McIntyre on LinkedInLee McIntyre on TwitterLee McIntyre on FacebookHis Work: Lee McIntyre on Google ScholarHow to Talk to a Science Denier: Conversations with Flat Earthers, Climate Deniers, and Others Who Defy ReasonThe Scientific Attitude: Defending Science from Denial, Fraud, and PseudosciencePost-TruthThe Art of Good and EvilPhilosophy of Science: A Contemporary Introduction (Routledge Contemporary Introductions to Philosophy)The Sin EaterRespecting Truth: Willful Ignorance in the Internet AgeDark Ages: The Case for a Science of Human Behavior

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Research shows that most people believe themselves to be above average when it comes to most things. And, for some, being right has become less of a virtue and more of a defensive stance. Standing our ground on trivial issues may damage our relationships and make us more susceptible to disinformation campaigns. To discover the strategies that help us to increase our critical thinking skills and our intellectual humility, Positive Psychology Podcast Host, Lisa Cypers Kamen, speaks with two experts about their work in what motivates humans to think critically. Mark Leary, a professor emeritus at Duke, describes the three benefits to being intellectually humble, the history of the study of intellectual humility, and strategies to increase connection and creativity by increasing intellectual humility. Author and Research Fellow, Lee McIntyre, shares excerpts from his book, How to Talk to a Science Denier: Conversations with Flat Earthers, Climate Deniers, and Others Who Defy Reason and describes how to practice inclusion with those who absorb the information provided by disinformation campaigns.

This week my guest is Lee McIntyre, who is a research fellow at the Center for Philosophy and History of Science at Boston University and author of a series of books coming to the defense of science, including his latest book: “How to Talk to a Science Denier: Conversations with Flat Earthers, Climate Deniers, and Others Who Defy Reason.” In this discussion we explore the many aspects of science denial and conspiracy theories. This includes exploring the role of technology, personal motivations, societal disenfranchisement, disinformation, and more. Additionally, we also discuss some of the solutions to these issues, with a particular emphasis on a non-technological option that's luckily available to all of us: respectful, face-to-face conversations. Find out more about Lee's work at https://leemcintyrebooks.com/ ** Host: Steven Parton - LinkedIn / Twitter Music by: Amine el Filali

Scientists are increasingly finding their expertise questioned by non-experts who claim they've done their own “research.” Whether advocating Ivermectin to treat Covid, insisting that climate change is a hoax, or asserting that the Earth is flat, doubters are now dismissed by being told to “do your own research!” But is a Wiki page evidence? What about a YouTube video? What happens to our quest for truth along the way? Plus, a science historian goes to a Flat Earth convention to talk reason. Guests: Yvette Johnson-Walker – epidemiologist at the University of Illinois College of Veterinary Medicine, and affiliate faculty with the University of Illinois Chicago School of Public Health. Nathan Ballantyne – Professor of Philosophy at Fordham University, in New York. David Dunning – Social psychologist and Professor of Psychology at the University of Michigan. Lee McIntyre – Research fellow at the Center for Philosophy and History at Boston University, author of “Post-Truth,” and “How to Talk to a Science Denier: Conversations with Flat Earthers, Climate Deniers, and Others Who Defy Reason.”   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Scientists are increasingly finding their expertise questioned by non-experts who claim they've done their own “research.” Whether advocating Ivermectin to treat Covid, insisting that climate change is a hoax, or asserting that the Earth is flat, doubters are now dismissed by being told to “do your own research!” But is a Wiki page evidence? What about a YouTube video? What happens to our quest for truth along the way? Plus, a science historian goes to a Flat Earth convention to talk reason. Guests: Yvette Johnson-Walker – epidemiologist at the University of Illinois College of Veterinary Medicine, and affiliate faculty with the University of Illinois Chicago School of Public Health. Nathan Ballantyne – Professor of Philosophy at Fordham University, in New York. David Dunning – Social psychologist and Professor of Psychology at the University of Michigan. Lee McIntyre – Research fellow at the Center for Philosophy and History at Boston University, author of “Post-Truth,” and “How to Talk to a Science Denier: Conversations with Flat Earthers, Climate Deniers, and Others Who Defy Reason.”   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Lee McIntyre is a philosopher of science who serves as a research Fellow at the Center for Philosophy and History of Science at Boston University and an instructor in Ethics at Harvard Extension School. His new book, How to Talk to a Science Denier: Conversations with Flat Earthers, Climate Deniers, and Others Who Defy Reason, is about how we can actually successfully talk people out of dangerous erroneous beliefs. Lee recognizes that merely providing people with correct facts does little, but also believes it's a terrible idea to let bad ideas go unrebutted, or conclude that there's "no point trying to reason with people." His book discusses the importance of building relationships and trust as part of the process of getting people to be open to new ideas, and shows why it's essential in an age of vaccine skepticism and climate denial that we learn how to effectively defend scientific truths. He joined Current Affairs editor Nathan J. Robinson to discuss what works and what doesn't when it comes to talking people out of irrational beliefs. Nathan's article on QAnon is here. The story of the QAnoner who gave up his beliefs is from the Washington Post. The George Orwell piece about flat earth beliefs that Nathan quotes is here. If you enjoy the Current Affairs podcast, consider subscribing to our glorious print magazine. Current Affairs is entirely funded by the donations and subscriptions of readers and listeners, and depends on your support to survive.

THANKSGIVING WEEKEND / CLASSIC EPISODE FROM SEPTEMBER 23, 2021 --On the Show: --Lee McIntyre, Research Fellow at the Center for Philosophy and History of Science at Boston University and author of the book "How to Talk to a Science Denier Conversations with Flat Earthers, Climate Deniers, and Others Who Defy Reason," joins David to discuss how to most effectively talk to science deniers and anti-vaxxers. Get the book: https://amzn.to/3zB7T3Q --Is President Joe Biden fumbling his response to the Haitian border situation, allowing his approval rating to drop further while giving Republicans oxygen to criticize him? --Desperate Fox News reporter Peter Doocy tries another gotcha question with White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki, this time on the topic of the Haitian border situation --Notable discussions from the David Pakman Show subreddit, including about Tulsi Gabbard, COVID vs the 1918 flu, and much more --Former Trump advisor Steven Bannon admits that he was involved in planning the January 6 rally with Donald Trump as a means to hurt Joe Biden's presidency before it even started --Republican Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene makes a mockery of the House of Representatives with meme-filled speech on the floor of the House --Former Donald Trump National Security Adviser Michael Flynn suggests that vaccines will be secretly put in salad dressing to get people to be vaccinated --Voicemail caller asks whether David will interview more people from the personal financial influencer/YouTube space --On the Bonus Show: McConnell & GOP denounce games while they play horrible games, Matthew McConaughey could be viable TX Gov candidate, McDonald's phasing out plastic toys, much more... --Become a Supporter: http://www.davidpakman.com/membership --Follow us on Twitter: http://twitter.com/davidpakmanshow --Subscribe on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/thedavidpakmanshow --Like us on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/davidpakmanshow --Leave us a message at The David Pakman Show Voicemail Line (219)-2DAVIDP

Our Responsibility to Defend the Truth Science denialism has existed as long as science has existed. As a part of our social contract, we're responsible for challenging the spread of misinformation and understanding, especially when it comes to science. If we open ourselves up to these difficult conversations, we can offer up a path into more logical reasoning and avoid a culture where science and truth are rejected. Science Denialism is Dangerous All science denialism relies on a flawed blueprint of cherry-picking evidence, trusting conspiracy theories, trusting fake experts, and relying on illogical reasoning. The internet has given denialism a chance to be amplified, which is especially dangerous because it confuses people and muddies the line between fact and falsehood. Science denialism hurts us in so many ways, from killing our planet by ignoring climate change to taking lives because people don't trust vaccines and masks. Technique Rebuttal Content rebuttal is using facts to combat false claims. Technique rebuttal is challenging the logic of the argument. It may seem logical to defend the truth with the facts, but you can make more progress by talking about the core of people's beliefs. If someone has already made the choice to deny the facts, presenting them with even more facts will not be effective. Instead, build trust by making them feel heard, then point out inconsistencies in their reasoning and use facts judiciously. FIND OUT MORE: Lee McIntyre is a philosopher of science and the author of the 2018 book Post Truth. His new book How to Talk to a Science Denier, tries to figure out how we can have constructive dialogue with Flat Earthers, Climate Deniers, and Others Who Defy Reason. Research Fellow at the Center for Philosophy and History of Science at Boston University and an Instructor in Ethics at Harvard Extension School. Formerly Executive Director of the Institute for Quantitative Social Science at Harvard University, he has also served as a policy advisor to the Executive Dean of the Faculty of Arts and Sciences at Harvard and as Associate Editor in the Research Department of the Federal Reserve Bank of Boston. McIntyre is the author of several books, including Post-Truth, Respecting Truth: Willful Ignorance in the Internet Age, and How to Talk to a Science Denier: Conversations with Flat Earthers, Climate Deniers, and Others Who Defy Reason. Other work has appeared in such popular venues as the The New York Times, Newsweek, The Chronicle of Higher Education, the New Statesman, the Times Higher Education Supplement, and The Humanist. You can follow Lee on Twitter at @LeeCMcIntyre

Learn about how someone can change their identity (and their mind); and “mushballs” on Uranus and Neptune. Plus: trivia! More from Lee McIntyre: Pick up "How to Talk to a Science Denier: Conversations with Flat Earthers, Climate Deniers, and Others Who Defy Reason": https://www.amazon.com/How-Talk-Science-Denier-Conversations/dp/0262046105  Website: https://leemcintyrebooks.com/  Follow @leemcintyre on Twitter: https://twitter.com/leecmcintyre  More on Jim Bridenstine changing his mind about climate change:  Pomeroy, R. (2018, June 12). Trump's NASA Chief Changed His Mind on Climate Change. Space.com; Space. https://www.space.com/40857-trumps-nasa-chief-changed-his-mind-on-climate-change-he-is-a-scientific-hero.html  "Mushballs" may solve a mystery about the atmosphere on Uranus and Neptune by Briana Brownell Next-Generation NASA Instrument to Study Uranus & Neptune Atmospheres. (2019). NASA. https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/2019/next-generation-nasa-instrument-advanced-to-study-the-atmospheres-of-uranus-and-neptune  ‌NASA thinks it's time to return to neptune with its Trident mission. (2020). NASA thinks it's time to return to Neptune with its Trident mission. Phys.org. https://phys.org/news/2020-06-nasa-neptune-trident-mission.html  Episodes referenced in this month's Curiosity Challenge Trivia game:  Aging trick: https://www.curiositydaily.com/blowhole-origins-weather-manipulation-how-to-slow-aging  Emotional hangovers: https://www.curiositydaily.com/your-extra-artery-emotional-hangovers-leds-are-bad-for-bugs/  Painkillers: https://www.curiositydaily.com/pills-can-detect-radiation-metabolism-myth-waking-up-on-the-wrong-side-of-the-bed/  Follow Curiosity Daily on your favorite podcast app to learn something new every day withCody Gough andAshley Hamer. Still curious? Get exclusive science shows, nature documentaries, and more real-life entertainment on discovery+! Go to https://discoveryplus.com/curiosity to start your 7-day free trial. discovery+ is currently only available for US subscribers. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Learn about how to talk to someone who denies a scientific reality; and “raining sulfur” in the Biblical city of Sodom.  More from author Lee McIntyre: Pick up "How to Talk to a Science Denier: Conversations with Flat Earthers, Climate Deniers, and Others Who Defy Reason": https://www.amazon.com/How-Talk-Science-Denier-Conversations/dp/0262046105  Website: https://leemcintyrebooks.com/  Follow @leemcintyre on Twitter: https://twitter.com/leecmcintyre  Scientists think an impact event explains "raining sulfur" in the biblical city of Sodom by Briana Brownell Smithsonian Magazine, & Gershon, L. (2021, September 22). Ancient City's Destruction by Exploding Space Rock May Have Inspired Biblical Story of Sodom. Smithsonian Magazine. https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/destruction-of-city-by-space-rock-may-have-inspired-biblical-story-of-sodom-180978734/  ‌BBC - History - Ancient History in depth: The Destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah. (2011). Bbc.co.uk. https://www.bbc.co.uk/history/ancient/cultures/sodom_gomorrah_01.shtml  ‌Bressan, D. (2021, September 21). Study Suggests That A Tunguska Sized Explosion Destroyed A City 3,600 Years Ago. Forbes. https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidbressan/2021/09/21/a-tunguska-sized-explosion-destroyed-a-city-3600-years-ago/?sh=a02c2028b207  Follow Curiosity Daily on your favorite podcast app to learn something new every day withCody Gough andAshley Hamer. Still curious? Get exclusive science shows, nature documentaries, and more real-life entertainment on discovery+! Go to https://discoveryplus.com/curiosity to start your 7-day free trial. discovery+ is currently only available for US subscribers. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Our Conspiracy Theories Series continues this month with Lee McIntyre, author of the new book "How to Talk to a Science Denier". To gather research for the book, Lee attended a flat earth convention to understand more about the followers who believe in the flat earth conspiracy. He shares what he learnt with with us. Lee is a Research Fellow at the Center for Philosophy and History of Science at Boston University and an Instructor in Ethics at Harvard Extension School. He's had a distinguished career in teaching and researching issues that we found fascinating. Topics  (9:33) Speed Round (11:36) Lee's experience attending a Flat Earth Convention. (14:56) How people become convinced by conspiracy theories. (17:09) The value of having face to face conversations. (22:10) How to have those difficult conversations with your family and friends. (26:08) The 5 common traits of science deniers. (31:31) Is the educational system really teaching us about how science works? (36:23) Why should we take science deniers seriously? (38:53) Why is science denial growing? (43:27) Political identity and science denial.  (58:14) The music that got Lee through Covid (1:06:14) Grooving Session with Tim and Kurt discussing what they talked about with Lee. © 2021 Behavioral Grooves Links “How to Talk to a Science Denier: Conversations with Flat Earthers, Climate Deniers, and Others Who Defy Reason” by Lee McIntyre: https://amzn.to/3qaV134 McIntyre, L. “Calling all Physicists” American Journal of Physics 87, 694 (2019); https://doi.org/10.1119/1.5117828 Beyond the Curve documentary: https://www.netflix.com/title/81015076 “Merchants of Doubt: How a Handful of Scientists Obscured the Truth on Issues from Tobacco Smoke to Climate Change” by Naomi Oreskes and Erik M. Conway: https://amzn.to/3q39Y7m Cranky Uncle: https://crankyuncle.com/ You're Not So Smart Podcast: https://youarenotsosmart.com/podcast/ Behavioral Grooves Patreon page: https://www.patreon.com/behavioralgrooves  Musical Links The Beatles “Here Comes the Sun”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQetemT1sWc The Beatles “While My Guitar Gently Weeps”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJDJs9dumZI The Beatles “Something”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UelDrZ1aFeY The Beatles “Blackbird”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Man4Xw8Xypo The Beatles “Hide your Love Away”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8nLraecPRY The Beatles, The Medley on the Flipside of Abbey Road: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAIUxGn9lCI The Beatles “Because”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hL0tnrl2L_U The Beatles “Strawberry Fields Forever”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtUH9z_Oey8

On this episode of Booklist's Shelf Care: The Podcast, host Susan Maguire talks to librarians Anna Mickelsen and Alene Moroni about best practices for weeding, and Audio Editor Heather Booth shares what she's been reading and loving. Find the full show notes with links at booklistonline.com/shelf-care Here's what we talked about: Anna and Alene's weeding guidelines by Dewey Burn for Me, by Ilona Andrews Caste: The Origins of Our Discontents, by Isabel Wilkerson, read by Robin Miles You Had Me at Hola, by Alexis Daria, read by Seraphine Valentine Alene on Twitter: @surlyspice Anna on Twitter: @helgagrace Float Plan, by Trish Doller Island Queen, by Vanessa Riley, read by Adjoa Andoh Fever 1793, by Laurie Halse Anderson A Carnival of Snackery: Diaries, 2003-2020, by David Sedaris How to Talk to a Science Denier: Conversations with Flat Earthers, Climate Deniers, and Others Who Defy Reason, by Lee McIntyre No One Goes Alone, by Erik Larson, read by Julian Rhind-Tutt and Erik Larson

We're not to blame for climate change. It's a part of the natural cycle. The earth is flat. The round Earth conspiracy is orchestrated by NASA and other government agencies. No one should get the coronavirus vaccine. Bill Gates wants to use it to implant microchips in people. This is, of course, all bunk. But how can we change the minds of people who believe it to be true? Lee McIntyre offered thoughts and suggestions to try and reach, communicate, and change the minds of science deniers in How to Talk to a Science Denier. And, he warned, it's best not to just dismiss them and ignore them. Why? Science denial can kill. From attending a flat earth conference to chats with anti-vaxxers, McIntire presented the five factors involved in science denial: cherry-picking evidence, belief in conspiracy theories, reliance on fake experts, logical errors, and setting impossible expectations on what science can achieve. Can we achieve understanding with the irrational? Not through belittling them or through anger, McIntyre said, but through calm, respectful rationality. Lee McIntyre is a Research Fellow at the Center for Philosophy and History of Science at Boston University. He is the author of Dark Ages: The Case for a Science of Human Behavior, Post-Truth, and The Scientific Attitude: Defending Science from Denial, Fraud, and Pseudoscience. Buy the Book: How to Talk to a Science Denier: Conversations with Flat Earthers, Climate Deniers, and Others Who Defy Reason (Hardcover) Third Place Books  Presented by Town Hall Seattle. To become a member or make a donation online click here. 

I don't know if you've noticed but there is a lot going on in the world and a lot of misinformation being spread. This past week YouTube committed to removing anything containing anti vaccine misinformation. That includes anything related to vaccines causing autism, which they don't, cancer, which they don't, microchips, which they don't have, and so on. In an unprecedented step they also committed to terminating the accounts of anti-vaccine influencers that spread this type of false information. It is timely because Youtube came up in this week's episode. In a time of mistrust, misinformation, and propaganda, we need voices of truth, voices of clarity, and voices of reason to cut through all the noise. One of those voices is that of this week's guest Lee McIntyre (insert credentials). He's a research fellow at the Center for Philosophy and Science at Boston University and he is the author of the new book: How to Talk to a Science Denier: Conversations with Flat Earthers, Climate Deniers, and Others Who Defy Reason  You can find this latest book and his others by visiting his website:  leemcintyrebooks.com You can also follow him on Twitter @LeeCMcIntyre How to Talk to a Science Denier: Conversations with Flat Earthers, Climate Deniers, and Others Who Defy Reason. It is among other things a guide to how all of us, not just scientists, can tackle the machine of deception and obfuscation of facts. And we need this help. On Tuesday September 28th a man in Illinois died after a month-long battle with...rabies. I know you probably thought I was going to say covid, but no rabies. He had an interaction with a bat and was bitten. He refused the post exposure treatment when offered, which led to what must have been an excruciating and horrible death. It was the first time someone died of rabies since 1954. The treatment he refiused was a combination of human rabies immune globulin, basically an antibody cocktail and a series of rabies vaccine shots (3 of them). Three shots is also how many you need to pre-protect yourself. There was no information on why he refused treatment. All the chatter I have heard has been about anti-vaxx and its important to consider that we don't actually know why he refused. The reason I bring this up is not because the treatment costs a ridiculous 10K with insurance in most places in the the US while it is $20 per does in Mozambique, for example. I bring it up because a new MRNA rabies vaccines was in human clinical trials in 2017. Rabies, though rare was chosen as the first virus to test the new MRNA technology for a few reasons. According to Dr Armbuster and colleagues, 1) the virus was well understood so they knew exactly what to target, 2) we have had an effective vaccine for a while now so there was great baseline data to compare the new vaccine with the old one, 2) trials in mice and pigs showed good results 3) and most people hadn't been exposed to rabies so they could get clean responses. I've got a link to the paper below. The point is that by the time the covid vaccine was underway we had already had several years of human clinical trials on the safety of mrna vaccine for rabies, of course. Yet that was not the conversation we were all having about how lucky we were that scientists had been trying to solve a problem- cheap safe, non-needle deliverable vaccines for rabies and because of that we were ready to move on using the same technology for a new virus.  https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6963972/ Please join the growing Wild Connection Podcast community and subscribe. You can follow the show on Itunes, Google Play, or wherever you listen to podcasts.Share it with others too so they can find it.  Follow the show on Twitter: @WildConnectPod and you can follow me on  Twitter and Instagram: @realdrjen Facebook https://www.facebook.com/RealDrJen There is also a YouTube Channel where you can find a range of videos, some of them tied to podcast episodes. More are on the way so subscribe to Wild Connection TV  

Science historian Lee McIntyre discusses his new book, "How to Talk to a Science Denier: Conversations with Flat Earthers, Climate Deniers, and Others Who Defy Reason." See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

--On the Show: --Lee McIntyre, Research Fellow at the Center for Philosophy and History of Science at Boston University and author of the book "How to Talk to a Science Denier Conversations with Flat Earthers, Climate Deniers, and Others Who Defy Reason," joins David to discuss how to most effectively talk to science deniers and anti-vaxxers. Get the book: https://amzn.to/3zB7T3Q --Is President Joe Biden fumbling his response to the Haitian border situation, allowing his approval rating to drop further while giving Republicans oxygen to criticize him? --Desperate Fox News reporter Peter Doocy tries another gotcha question with White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki, this time on the topic of the Haitian border situation --Notable discussions from the David Pakman Show subreddit, including about Tulsi Gabbard, COVID vs the 1918 flu, and much more --Former Trump advisor Steven Bannon admits that he was involved in planning the January 6 rally with Donald Trump as a means to hurt Joe Biden's presidency before it even started --Republican Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene makes a mockery of the House of Representatives with meme-filled speech on the floor of the House --Former Donald Trump National Security Adviser Michael Flynn suggests that vaccines will be secretly put in salad dressing to get people to be vaccinated --Voicemail caller asks whether David will interview more people from the personal financial influencer/YouTube space --On the Bonus Show: McConnell & GOP denounce games while they play horrible games, Matthew McConaughey could be viable TX Gov candidate, McDonald's phasing out plastic toys, much more...

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As part of background research for his new book How to Talk to a Science Denier: Conversations with Flat Earthers, Climate Deniers, and Others Who Defy Reason, philosopher, educator, and author Lee McIntyre attended the 2018 Flat Earth International Conference in Denver Co. In this episode, Professor McIntyre discusses that experience, describes the nature of science denialism, and suggests what to do when we encounter it.

“Climate change is a hoax — and so is coronavirus.” “Vaccines are bad for you.” These days, many of our fellow citizens reject scientific expertise and prefer ideology to facts. They are not merely uninformed — they are misinformed. They cite cherry-picked evidence, rely on fake experts, and believe conspiracy theories. How can we convince such people otherwise? How can we get them to change their minds and accept the facts when they don't believe in facts? In this conversation based on his new book, Lee McIntyre shows that anyone can fight back against science deniers, and argues that it's important to do so.

(8/16/21)"Climate change is a hoax and so is coronavirus." "Vaccines are bad for you." These days, many of our fellow citizens reject scientific expertise and prefer ideology to facts. They are not merely uninformed—they are misinformed. How can we get them to change their minds and accept the facts when they don't believe in facts? In his new book, How to Talk to a Science Denier: Conversations with Flat Earthers, Climate Deniers, and Others Who Defy Reason, Lee McIntyre, a research fellow at the Center for Philosophy and History of Science at Boston University, shows that anyone can fight back against science deniers. Join us for a look at why science denial can kill in this installment of Leonard Lopate at Large on WBAI.

The rejection of scientific expertise has been one of the most consequential social trends of the 21st century and, for those of us who remain committed to the scientific method, it may also be the most frustrating. After years of being bombarded with evidence (and often having their intelligence insulted), science deniers seem even more committed to alternative explanations of the world and the leaders who promise to undermine science-based policy. How did we get here and how can we make things better? In this episode, we get answers to those questions from Dr. Lee McIntyre, who shares what he learned from studying the ways that science deniers see the world, how we can use those insights to fight that worldview, and why a little bit of good faith goes a long way in communicating with others. Dr. Lee McIntyre is a Research Fellow at the Center for Philosophy and History of Science at Boston University. His book How to Talk to a Science Denier: Conversations with Flat Earthers, Climate Deniers, and Others Who Defy Reason (MIT Press, 2021) hits shelves on August 17, 2021. (You remember that study that said confronting people with evidence that disproved their position only made them more convinced of their beliefs? It didn't hold up in subsequent experiments. There's more on that in this episode.) This episode was edited by Gary Fletcher. The Road to Now is part of the Osiris Podcast Network.