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Pace (the Dervish) is a Sufi, a Pathfinding coach, a pansexual polyamorous transgender Dance Dance Revolution (DDR) player, and an Enneagram 3. Kyeli (the Mermaid) is a wildhearted witch, a self-love advocate, disabled, adventurous, and an Enneagram se


    • Nov 8, 2018 LATEST EPISODE
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    Final episode: Pace and Kyeli’s 10 House Rules

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 8, 2018 52:24


    Podcasting five years, it’s been swell! But now we are saying farewell. Let’s talk about why We’re saying goodbye With many more stories to tell. A last parting gift, our ten jewels, Ten easy-to-memorize tools For living intentionally And unconventionally: They’re what we call our House Rules. Pace & Kyeli’s House Rules Resilience, Not Perfection […]

    What if nobody cares about my art?

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 18, 2018 54:22


    Kyeli helps Pace deal with her attachment to other people being moved by her creation. Before my creation is hatched, I’m already hella attached. If nobody cares To sample my wares, My plan might as well stay unhatched. bitching vs. venting game jams Compass Rose September Safari Games The Usual Error Time & Again internal […]

    Why Undertale fans are both the best and the worst fandom

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 11, 2018 59:35


    This applies to any fandom that strongly relates to its characters. Spoiler warning for Undertale. To choose a new topic at random, Consider the Undertale fandom. Some say they’re the best, Some say they’re obsessed, But we want to just understand ’em. What is Undertale? What is a fandom? Immersion, empathy, and fourth-wall-breaking in Undertale […]

    Nobody takes you seriously if you’re 99% vegetarian

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 4, 2018 29:33


    Why is our culture obsessed with believing in some dogma and sticking to it 100% obsessively? Why doesn’t 99% count for partial credit? Another fine myth to debunk: 100 percent or you flunk. Eat one bite of meat And you’re now obsolete, 99 percent’s basically junk. allergic to chocolate If you’re a Quaker, you don’t […]

    Everyday philosopher

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 27, 2018 36:18


    You live, and you do, and you age. Why not go explore the backstage? What makes people tick? Is this safe to lick? Don’t go through the motions, engage! game like a designer observe without judgement ask why Myers-Briggs S vs. N everyday philosopher “I don’t know for sure, but here are my thoughts” Thanks […]

    Schrödinger’s Kitten

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 20, 2018 40:25


    When you’re watching a kitten be cute But your camera’s not all set to shoot By the time that you’re ready The cat has already Moved on, and so you follow suit. So unless one is very astute It is hard to get proof absolute Of a cute little cat. So why does just that […]

    Phoenix addiction

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 13, 2018 54:57


    Is it out of the question or sinful To live lives that are just uneventful? Can the phoenix be plucked, Or are we simply fucked? Can we just be at peace and contentful? “I don’t deserve happiness” comfort is outside my comfort zone a pattern of moving after trauma happens, moving to escape the pain […]

    Determinism vs. Free Will

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 6, 2018 37:06


    Philosophical geekery. No quantum mechanics. Liquids flow always downhill. Physics prohibits free will. But with complex machines Like computers or genes, There might be some wiggle room still… the dice-rolling machine “Any sufficiently complex system is indistinguishable from randomness.” -Paul Lagasse The Sims the butterfly effect the meaning of life How would you live your […]

    Spoonie Killjoy

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 30, 2018 44:19


    We each have a certain number of spoons each day, some more than others. If your spoons are limited, you’ll have to learn how to manage them, and how to deal with people who don’t understand. Plundering hoards of doubloons, Gallivanting in saloons, Using willpower, Heck, taking a shower: These things can exhaust all your […]

    Feminist Killjoy

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 23, 2018 41:32


    If there’s one thing we’d love to destroy, One missile we yearn to deploy, Its target would be Not the patriarchy, But the very emotion of joy. anti-joy vs. anti-cruelty Logical Fallacy #1: The Slippery Slope Logical Fallacy #2: The Scarecrow killing our own joy Hating the patriarchy does not mean hating men shoutouts to […]

    What do gender roles and whale legs have in common?

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 21, 2018 62:00


    To live life as wholly intentional, Be truly unique and original, Instead of conform To the cultural norm, You must leave behind what’s vestigial. amygdala gender roles dodgy evolutionary biology the “default male” assumption the commodity model of sex (and a debunking of it that Pace only read after recording the episode – sorry!) shame […]

    What you love, what you rock, and what’s needed

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 14, 2018 22:11


    For your path to proceed unimpeded There are three things that all must be heeded. You’re on the right map When these three overlap: What you love, what you rock, and what’s needed. Creepy Lemons” WCML 035: The 3 Circles of Pathfinding (and how perfectionism can skew them) with Julica Hermann Thanks for listening to […]

    Morality, manipulation, and marketing

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 7, 2018 68:03


    On the one hand, a strong demonstration. On the other, a sly exploitation. How far can you go And still certainly know That it isn’t a gross manipulation? why Pace is so obsessed with morality Olive Garden, waffles and cats, and bankruptcy two moral extremes: personal (keep my soul pure) vs. utilitarian (60% live the […]

    Paradigm glue: why people get angry at you for simply existing

    Play Episode Listen Later May 31, 2018 34:29


    Gluey Gus has completed the brick wall around his heart. Nothing gets to him. He’s strong, invulnerable, tough. Gluey Gus always gets the job done. Gluey Gus believes he’s making the right choice – the realistic choice. It’s a dog eat dog world out there, and you’ve got to be tough if you want to […]

    Creepiness in service of love

    Play Episode Listen Later May 24, 2018 43:49


    There are certain things it’s unacceptable to say. I’m going to say some of them. A trolley is crashing, and you Choose who lives and who’s smushed into goo. Unlike what you’re taught, In real life you cannot Always hack Kobayashi Maru. trolley problem kobayashi maru liberal moral high ground What You Can’t Say by […]

    The backwards law: Chasing happiness makes you miserable

    Play Episode Listen Later May 17, 2018 50:17


    There are two kinds of wanting: one that makes you miserable and one that brings you peace. Here’s the difference. This paradox feels like a flaw: Alan Watts even called it a law. The more that you chase Your joy, love, or grace The more that it seems to withdraw. the difference between wanting and […]

    To follow your heart you need a compass, not a map

    Play Episode Listen Later May 10, 2018 36:55


    If you just live your life off the cuff, You might feel you’re not up to snuff. If you “Find Your Path Now” Then you’re worthy somehow, But otherwise you’re not enough. This is an insidious lie! A path’s not a thing you can buy. Don’t fall for that trap: It’s compass, not map. Your […]

    What even are miracles?

    Play Episode Listen Later May 3, 2018 55:10


    I write you this poem most lyrical To question: just what is a miracle? Is it some kind of sign? Is it from the Divine? Or is there an answer empirical? Weird stuff we've experienced, part 1 The “grey dots” optical illusion impossible colors the misinformation effect the lost in the mall experiment physics envy […]

    The elephant in the bathroom

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 26, 2018 24:01


    The strong status quo makes you hesitant. “It’s not my place” is the impediment. But you can’t be intentional And default conventional So go on, relocate that elephant! Kyeli tells the story of when she rearranged a restaurant’s bathroom and what it taught her about Maslow’s Hierarchy of needs, complacency, and empowerment. Thanks for listening […]

    Carrie Poppy and science/magick bias

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 19, 2018 40:49


    “10 times out of 10, science wins” Assuming you use a clear lens. Be open and kind, The truth you will find, Instead of believing your friends. Carrie Poppy’s TED talk: “A scientific approach to the paranormal” Mock witches, then say “keep an open mind” – microaggression scientism Spiral Dynamics: orange vs. blue (and accidentally […]

    It’s okay to not be happy all the time

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 12, 2018 38:05


    For decades I’ve worked toward subtraction: Removing all pain my main action. Well, I fell in that hole; Now I’ve found a new goal: Befriending my dissatisfaction. “I will never be satisfied.” -Pace (and Alexander Hamilton) Joy as the villain of Inside Out When there's something you can't stand about yourself and you keep trying […]

    Stack the lizard deck in your favor

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 5, 2018 61:53


    Life is a deck-building game. You draw randomly in the moment, but you can stack the deck in your favor beforehand. What does it mean to be good, If you act like a Romulan would? Your choice is foreseen By the moments between, Hope you stacked the deck best as you could! WCML 113: Caging […]

    Social Justice Cleric

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 29, 2018 22:32


    We hear a lot about the Social Justice Warriors, but what about the Social Justice Clerics? A person who’s skilled in barbarics Fights hard, then goes back to the barracks. And that’s where one finds (Not on the front lines) The healers, the shamans, the clerics. “silence is compliance” WCML 059: Self-care is a form […]

    Lifelogging to find weird stuff

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 22, 2018 33:20


    A camera that’s on round the clock Is something at which most would balk. But the stuff we could learn Outweighs this concern. I think, for weird stuff, it could rock. We could solve etymological mysteries! e.g. nerd (1951), zit (1960s), “Earl-aye in the morning” XKCD on weird stuff and the prevalence of cameras lifelogging […]

    “Free to play” is (usually) evil

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 15, 2018 64:28


    We’re torn between two distinct factions: Stay young, or spout grumpy detractions. In this case, the schism Is not race or sexism, But games based on microtransactions. How this applies to all kinds of social change, not just video games The psychology of the marketplace: bookstore vs. info-product PDF, PC game vs. mobile game “Outrage […]

    A bridge between Flat Earth and Round Earth

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 8, 2018 41:04


    I recently had a nice chat With someone who says Earth is flat. I know that it’s round And my reasons are sound, But how do I justify that? Why do we believe the things that we believe? How can we have good conversations about things like this instead of just calling each other idiots? […]

    Hating men vs. hating the patriarchy

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 1, 2018 58:58


    A fantasy realm is made worse By not being somewhat diverse. I speak of The Sims, And with pseudonyms About these issues we’ll converse. Kyeli feels like a bad feminist for creating a male sim in a male-dominated profession. At the root is the difference between hating men and hating the patriarchy. Thanks for listening […]

    Games Done Quick doing their best against transphobia

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 22, 2018 38:02


    Each year at each AGDQ The chat will spew transphobic spew. To censor the trolling They became more controlling And that’s when these hijinks ensue… why it’s easier to be mean when you’re virtual and anonymous taking a stand for politics vs. taking a stand for values how to create a community that’s both safe […]

    The universe is a meaningless uncaring void (but whatevs)

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 15, 2018 25:55


    We didn’t believe this a month ago. But now, thanks to Zoloft and Lexapro, we kinda do! And what’s worse, we’re not even bothered by this. Here’s what it’s been like. I wager you might be surprised To hear Pace and Kyeli advise To give up intervening ‘Cause life has no meaning. Thanks so much, […]

    Misleading is just as bad as outright lying

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 8, 2018 25:53


    If it’s technically true but you’re trying To mislead the questioner’s prying, Then the words that you spew Although technically true Are morally equal to lying. Thanks for listening to The Dervish and the Mermaid! If you enjoyed this episode, please review us on iTunes and send your friends to PaceSmith.com. That’s also where you […]

    What the heck even is gender?

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 1, 2018 48:58


    Let’s tackle a topic that’s tender: What the heck even is gender? Identity, role, What’s skin and what’s soul? Can we fight it, or must we surrender? WCML 073: The future of gender WCML 083: The future of gender (part 2) with Ealasaid Haas WCML 093: Don't “should” all over yourself: self-love and reducing negative […]

    Relationships don’t exist

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 25, 2018 37:49


    How to avoid “leading on” a friend? This is “No blood no trust” in the other direction. If relationships do not exist, Then how can I not become pissed When my so-called friend Was only pretend. What was the clue that I missed? Pace Explains why relationships don't exist No blood, no trust. Friendships as […]

    Sensitivity readers

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 18, 2018 43:53


    A recent and needed activity Is pre-reading for sensitivity. But where to assign That very fine line Between censorship and subjectivity? Sensitivity readers are people who read manuscripts before they’re published to check for racist or otherwise offensive tropes so they can be rewritten before publishing. The article that spawned this conversation (h/t Kelly Kingman) […]

    Two dumb reasons for making New Year’s Resolutions

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 11, 2018 20:15


    Pace and Kyeli each dodge a bullet of making a New Year’s resolution for a misguided reason. Hint: It has to do with being an Enneagram 3 and 4, respectively. (We didn’t manage to record this episode before the new year, but it’s never too late to wholeheartedly abort if you’re doing something for the […]

    How is the Law of Attraction like criminalizing marijuana?

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 4, 2018 54:19


    To understand cults and regimes You must unstitch all of the seams. What makes a belief Last long or be brief? Memetics: the study of memes. WCML 104: High-demand groups, part 1 of 2 (with Emma and Kelly) and WCML 105: High-demand groups, part 2 of 2 (with Emma and Kelly) What’s a meme, and what makes […]

    Pace and Kyeli’s words of the year for 2018

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 28, 2017 47:11


    2018 is nigh here; Let’s focus on being right here. We’ve always preferred To choose just one word To set our intent for the year. Pace’s previous words of the year: acceptance, annihilation, surrender, pantry, easy mode, warm bread with butter on it Kyeli’s previous words of the year: courageous, open, mermaid, epic, loud How […]

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    Chasing your dream vs. running away from your life

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 21, 2017 38:36


    Say you turn down a high-paying job. Are you following your dream, or running away from your life? How can you tell the difference? When you set out to follow your dream, Your choices diverge from mainstream. Are you finding your way, Or running away? Things might be more mixed than they seem. Why someone […]

    Intent doesn’t matter

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 14, 2017 39:05


    Meaning well is not enough – you also need followthrough. There once was a fellow named Hal Who was honest and good for morale. But Hal always falls through. Every time. So would you Rely on this so-honest pal? Thanks for listening to The Dervish and the Mermaid! If you enjoyed this episode, please review […]

    Emotional labor and privilege

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 7, 2017 47:48


    The underprivileged are expected to bear the burden of educating the privileged and also making them feel okay when they do harm. Here’s why that sucks and what we can do to make it suck less. I walk up to greet my new neighbor Who then runs me through with a saber. I say, “Oops, […]

    Package deal and duplicate jars

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 30, 2017 36:30


    “Package deal” is a technique to find peace out of dissonance when you feel regret or longing. “Duplicate jars” is a way to find out the truth when your mind is lying to you. Sometimes, when I have been damaged, I want to just toss out my baggage! But I cannot release One troublesome piece […]

    Radical Wholeness, with Philip Shepherd

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 23, 2017 58:54


    Our culture’s all brain and no soul, No connection and too much control. Philip Shepherd’s the man With a radical plan: Reconnecting our parts with the whole. The Story of a culture (e.g. Why should wearing a necktie make you feel respectable or competent?) independence is an illusion “The very idea that reality can be […]

    Futz without fear

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 16, 2017 38:25


    One of my favorite shortcuts Is learning by having the guts To try without fear And so today we’re Gonna teach you how to futz! How to futz in a safe sandbox Kitchen “common sense” Self-confidence Staying young Thanks for listening to The Dervish and the Mermaid! If you enjoyed this episode, please review us […]

    Bulldozer and Doormat

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 9, 2017 41:48


    More detail (including live roleplay examples!) about the bulldozer/doormat pattern, in which one person dominates (often subconsciously) and one person submits (often subconsciously). Pace runs the bulldozer pattern and Kyeli runs the doormat pattern. I’m bent on achieving a goal. I’ll build up some steam, then I’ll roll. But don’t be afraid; If I am […]

    We got creeped by a creeper, and what it taught us about politeness, rape culture, and gender roles

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 2, 2017 45:38


    Kyeli and I were accosted by a creepy stalker recently, and so we want to talk about politeness, being a “nice girl,” placating, salespeople, creepers, and other folks who violate the social contract. “Buy this vacuum from me ’cause it’s cheaper,” Says the salesperson. Now go deeper: We respond so politely ‘Cause rude is unsightly, […]

    Feminism 101

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 26, 2017 45:39


    We’ve been throwing around terms like “the patriarchy” and “feminism” without ever explaining what we mean by them. Here’s an introduction to what feminism is (and isn’t!) and why we think it’s important. It’s Feminism 101! There’s plenty of work to be done, But let’s start with equality And a dash of frivolity And hopefully […]

    Talking back to podcast guests

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 19, 2017 33:19


    When we have a guest on the podcast, and the guest says something we disagree with, do you want us to interrupt or let it slide? Each time I talk back to a guest, I feel some internal unrest. Is just keeping silent Implicitly violent? Or am I just being a pest? WCME 022: A […]

    Spiritual bypass

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 12, 2017 52:33


    A spiritual bypass is when you focus on only the internal work to the exclusion of an external problem that needs to be addressed. Here’s what it looks like. The Law of Three starts with fixation. The second point is the negation. The third transcends both, If it’s actual growth, But what if it’s minimization? […]

    Gnomes all the way up

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 5, 2017 55:01


    How to heal and/or manipulate others by whispering to their invisible gnomes. The gnomes are a metaphor. We hope…. If you read some thick, scholarly tomes Your predictions surpass Sherlock Holmes. You’ll soon see the fnords And reap the rewards Once you know the invisible gnomes. Pace Explains who to trust WCME 051: How to […]

    Direct vs. subtle communication (aka ask culture vs. guess culture, low context vs. high context communication)

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 28, 2017 44:20


    Direct communication vs. subtle communication, ask culture vs. guess culture, low context vs. high context: different names for the same two communication styles. In direct communication, it’s always okay to ask and it’s always okay to say no. In subtle communication, it’s polite to be indirect, and being direct is seen as rude. If you […]

    Blood, more racism, laughter, and kindness: IEA 2017 part 3 of 3

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 19, 2017 55:28


    This is it! Here is everything else I learned at IEA 2017. Some fabulous speakers on scene, A focus on practice: that’s keen. We’re still old and white, But there’s a lot we got right at IEA 2017! Part 1: Wholeness and sensing with the belly center (learned from Philip Shepherd) Part 2: HeartMath and […]

    How to use the internet if you’re sensitive, part 1

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 14, 2017 43:42


    How to spend time online without getting triggered, stressed out, or turning into a rat pushing a lever. In part 1, we explore the problem, commiserate, and begin to explore possible solutions. Use Facebook without reading news. More connection, and less shallow schmooze. When your phone dings, don’t drool; Don’t be your phone’s tool. Connect […]

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