Step up to The Line. A new podcast focused on highlighting the skilled trades. Showcasing men and women by sharing their stories and experiences. Our guests range from CEOs of 100 million-dollar businesses to a 21-year-old fabricator/welder. By sharing their experiences we aim to inspire the next generation of boys and girls hoping to break the generational miseducation surrounding the trades as an option. The Line is produced by Blackline whose mission is to continue to lift the view of the skilled trades. For trades by trades. Welcome to the Line. Tune in every Monday for a new episode.
In this episode of The Line, Joshua Mellott of Blackline sits down with Josh Moser of Moser Roofing Solutions to talk about what it means to be LOCKED IN.It's a phrase Josh's kids use, but it has become a powerful way to describe the focus, commitment, and intention it takes to build something that lasts.They dig into the origins of Moser Roofing, where Josh came from, the lessons learned along the way, and what it takes to build a strong culture around people. The conversation also looks ahead at leadership, growth, and the responsibility of leading people into the future as an organization continues to evolve.Where you come from matters. Where you're going matters too. And getting there requires people who are willing to lock in and do the work.Step up to The Line with us.--------------------------WHERE TO WATCH:Spotify https://open.spotify.com/show/07rT0hF...Apple https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast...-------------------------FOLLOW JOSH:X: https://x.com/Joshuadmellott... / joshuadmellott LinkedIn: / TikTok: / ucc11qg6hxwp7tmvmr_sv7vg --------------------------FOLLOW BLACKLINE: @blacklineltdInstagram: / blacklinelt. .Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?...LinkedIn: / YouTube: / @blacklineltd Website: https://www.blacklineltd.com/--------------------------EXPLORE THE PODCASTSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/07rT0hF...Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast...
THE LINE | GROUND ZEROThis is a first for us here at Blackline. Today, we're re-sharing a previous episode of The Line because we believe this story and these words are worth hearing again.Twenty-five years ago today, on September 11, 2001, the United States of America was attacked.We should never be surprised that there are those who seek to attack liberty and freedom. Throughout our country's history, both have had to be defended, protected, and fought for.And when our country has needed people to step up, the men and women of the skilled trades have answered the call.We saw it during COVID, when tradespeople were deemed essential and kept America moving. We saw it on 9/11, when first responders and tradespeople stepped into unimaginable circumstances to serve, rebuild, search, and help save lives.People like Andrew Brown.Andrew was at Ground Zero, working alongside first responders and fellow tradesmen, sifting through the rubble. What he experienced there changed his life and ultimately led him into the skilled trades.September 11 is a day to remember those we lost, those who served, and who we are as a country.Here at Blackline, we believe Andrew's story is worth telling again.Step up to the line. Remember. Tell your story.Never Forget. 9.11.01.--------------------------WHERE TO WATCH:Spotify https://open.spotify.com/show/07rT0hF...Apple https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast...-------------------------FOLLOW JOSH:X: https://x.com/Joshuadmellott... / joshuadmellott LinkedIn: / TikTok: / ucc11qg6hxwp7tmvmr_sv7vg --------------------------FOLLOW BLACKLINE: @blacklineltdInstagram: / blacklinelt. .Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?...LinkedIn: / YouTube: / @blacklineltd Website: https://www.blacklineltd.com/--------------------------EXPLORE THE PODCASTSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/07rT0hF...Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast...
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What is the purpose behind what you do?This week's Field Notes, The Call, is about finding fulfillment in the work we do by understanding the purpose behind it. It's about recognizing that our work is more than a job, a title, or a paycheck. There is a reason behind the work, the people we serve, and the way we lead.Sometimes fulfillment starts with understanding why we do what we do.Lessons Learned Through Experience. Shared From Those Who Are in the Field.--------------------------WHERE TO WATCH:Spotify https://open.spotify.com/show/07rT0hF...Apple https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast...-------------------------FOLLOW JOSH:X: https://x.com/Joshuadmellott... / joshuadmellott LinkedIn: / TikTok: / ucc11qg6hxwp7tmvmr_sv7vg --------------------------FOLLOW BLACKLINE: @blacklineltdInstagram: / blacklinelt. .Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?...LinkedIn: / YouTube: / @blacklineltd Website: https://www.blacklineltd.com/--------------------------EXPLORE THE PODCASTSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/07rT0hF...Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast...
This week on The Line, I step up to the line with Dan Hammarberg of Westfield Egg Farm and the Westfield Group.Dan shares his perspective on culture, leadership, and what it really means to care for the people who do the work. We talk about knowing your team, understanding what they're carrying, and creating opportunities for people to grow through intentional leadership development.We also get behind the scenes of an organization that has spent decades supporting small farms and helping bring their products to consumers in Manhattan, Chicago, and throughout the East Coast. It takes logistics, construction, facilities, operations, and a lot of people working together to make it happen.--------------------------WHERE TO WATCH:Spotify https://open.spotify.com/show/07rT0hF...Apple https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast...-------------------------FOLLOW JOSH:X: https://x.com/Joshuadmellott... / joshuadmellott LinkedIn: / TikTok: / ucc11qg6hxwp7tmvmr_sv7vg --------------------------FOLLOW BLACKLINE: @blacklineltdInstagram: / blacklinelt. .Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?...LinkedIn: / YouTube: / @blacklineltd Website: https://www.blacklineltd.com/--------------------------EXPLORE THE PODCASTSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/07rT0hF...Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast...
In this week's Blackline Field Notes: The Grind, we talk about the reality of hard work, fatigue, and what happens when the grind goes on too long.There are times when the work simply has to get done. But as leaders, we have a responsibility to understand what we're asking our teams to carry. Leadership isn't just about pushing people through the work. It's about helping them carry what they need to carry—and making sure we're not adding weight they were never meant to bear.The Grind is a field note on hard work, fatigue, and leading your people well when the pressure is on.--------------------------WHERE TO WATCH:Spotify https://open.spotify.com/show/07rT0hF...Apple https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast...-------------------------FOLLOW JOSH:X: https://x.com/Joshuadmellott... / joshuadmellott LinkedIn: / TikTok: / ucc11qg6hxwp7tmvmr_sv7vg --------------------------FOLLOW BLACKLINE: @blacklineltdInstagram: / blacklinelt. .Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?...LinkedIn: / YouTube: / @blacklineltd Website: https://www.blacklineltd.com/--------------------------EXPLORE THE PODCASTSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/07rT0hF...Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast...
What does the future look like when construction, technology, and the people who do the work come together?From the top of the NASDAQ Tower in Times Square, Joshua D. Mellott sits down with KP Reddy, Founder and CEO of Zero RFI, for a conversation that goes far beyond technology.They talk about AI and where technology is taking the construction industry, but the conversation quickly moves into something bigger: leadership, parenting, mentorship, hardship, and our responsibility to prepare the next generation.Technology will continue to change the way we work, but people still matter. Experience matters. And the knowledge we gain means very little if we aren't willing to pass it on.Whether it's our children, the people on our teams, or the person working beside us, we have a responsibility to teach, mentor, and share what we've learned so the next generation can take our industry, our culture, and our society further.KP understands construction. He understands technology. And he believes in finding better solutions while never losing sight of the people who actually do the work.Step Up to the Line and join the conversation.THE LINE Podcast x BLACKLINELifting the view of the skilled trades.#TheLine #Blackline #KPReddy #ZeroRFI #Construction #SkilledTrades #AI #Technology #Leadership #Mentorship --------------------------WHERE TO WATCH:Spotify https://open.spotify.com/show/07rT0hF...Apple https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast...-------------------------FOLLOW JOSH:X: https://x.com/Joshuadmellott... / joshuadmellott LinkedIn: / TikTok: / ucc11qg6hxwp7tmvmr_sv7vg --------------------------FOLLOW BLACKLINE: @blacklineltdInstagram: / blacklinelt. .Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?...LinkedIn: / YouTube: / @blacklineltd Website: https://www.blacklineltd.com/--------------------------EXPLORE THE PODCASTSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/07rT0hF...Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast...
In this Field Notes episode, Joshua Mellott explores The Experience and why great customer service in the skilled trades is about more than simply doing good work. It's about being intentional with how clients experience you, especially when things get difficult. Strong character, clear communication, and genuine care can turn a project into a relationship and a client into a long-term partner.Lessons Learned Through Experience. Shared From Those Who Are in the Field.--------------------------WHERE TO WATCH:Spotify https://open.spotify.com/show/07rT0hF...Apple https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast...-------------------------FOLLOW JOSH:X: https://x.com/Joshuadmellott... / joshuadmellott LinkedIn: / TikTok: / ucc11qg6hxwp7tmvmr_sv7vg --------------------------FOLLOW BLACKLINE: @blacklineltdInstagram: / blacklinelt. .Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?...LinkedIn: / YouTube: / @blacklineltd Website: https://www.blacklineltd.com/--------------------------EXPLORE THE PODCASTSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/07rT0hF...Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast...
Great contractors don't document just to check a box. They document with intention.In this issue of Blackline Field Notes, we break down why accurate documentation protects the contractor, the client, the project, and the people doing the work.Lessons Learned Through Experience. Shared for Those in the Field.--------------------------WHERE TO WATCH:Spotify https://open.spotify.com/show/07rT0hF...Apple https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast...-------------------------FOLLOW JOSH:X: https://x.com/Joshuadmellott... / joshuadmellott LinkedIn: / TikTok: / ucc11qg6hxwp7tmvmr_sv7vg --------------------------FOLLOW BLACKLINE: @blacklineltdInstagram: / blacklinelt. .Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?...LinkedIn: / YouTube: / @blacklineltd Website: https://www.blacklineltd.com/--------------------------EXPLORE THE PODCASTSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/07rT0hF...Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast...
They're contractors building systems for contractors.Lou shares how their experience in the industry is shaping the technology they're developing and why understanding the men and women who actually use these systems matters.At Blackline, we say For Trades. By Trades. That same philosophy runs through what Lumber is building: listen to the people doing the work, understand the problems they face, and build solutions that make sense in the real world.Joshua and Lou talk about Lumber's growth, entrepreneurship, construction technology, the financial side of contracting, and what the future could look like for an industry ready for change.Recorded at the Nasdaq in New York City.Step up to The Line.#TheLine #Blackline #Lumber #Construction #SkilledTrades #ConstructionTechnology #FinTech #ForTradesByTrades--------------------------WHERE TO WATCH:Spotify https://open.spotify.com/show/07rT0hF...Apple https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast...-------------------------FOLLOW JOSH:X: https://x.com/Joshuadmellott... / joshuadmellott LinkedIn: / TikTok: / ucc11qg6hxwp7tmvmr_sv7vg --------------------------FOLLOW BLACKLINE: @blacklineltdInstagram: / blacklinelt. .Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?...LinkedIn: / YouTube: / @blacklineltd Website: https://www.blacklineltd.com/--------------------------EXPLORE THE PODCASTSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/07rT0hF...Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast...
What if one of the most important words in business is also one of the hardest to say?This week, David Hawthorne of Hawthorne Electric steps up to the line with Joshua Mellott of Blackline to share nearly 80 years of lessons learned in business and in life.Dave reflects on the word he wishes he had used more often, what it truly means to think and live like an owner, and why refusing to quit is only part of the equation. The other part is refusing to be the same tomorrow as you are today.From the story of his father, Leroy Hawthorne, starting the company with nothing more than a panel truck and a willingness to work, to hard-earned wisdom on leadership, mentorship, and perseverance, Dave shares practical insight for anyone building a business, building a family, or simply trying to build a life that is meaningful and fulfilling.This is a conversation about ownership, excellence, and having the courage to say no when it matters most.Step Up to the Line and join us for one of the most wisdom-filled conversations we've had yet.--------------------------WHERE TO WATCH:Spotify https://open.spotify.com/show/07rT0hF...Apple https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast...-------------------------FOLLOW JOSH:X: https://x.com/Joshuadmellott... / joshuadmellott LinkedIn: / TikTok: / ucc11qg6hxwp7tmvmr_sv7vg --------------------------FOLLOW BLACKLINE: @blacklineltdInstagram: / blacklinelt. .Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?...LinkedIn: / YouTube: / @blacklineltd Website: https://www.blacklineltd.com/--------------------------EXPLORE THE PODCASTSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/07rT0hF...Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast...
Blackline Field Notes – Issue 003: The Cost of SilenceWhat does silence really cost on the job site?In this week's episode of Blackline Field Notes, Joshua shares one of the most expensive lessons of his career. He explores the difference between being a nice guy and being a good man, and why avoiding hard conversations often creates bigger problems than having them.Healthy conversations protect projects, preserve profits, strengthen relationships, and demonstrate genuine honor and respect for the people you work with. Sometimes the conversation you're avoiding is the very thing that keeps the job moving forward.See you next week in the field.--------------------------WHERE TO WATCH:Spotify https://open.spotify.com/show/07rT0hF...Apple https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast...-------------------------FOLLOW JOSH:X: https://x.com/Joshuadmellott... / joshuadmellott LinkedIn: / TikTok: / ucc11qg6hxwp7tmvmr_sv7vg --------------------------FOLLOW BLACKLINE: @blacklineltdInstagram: / blacklinelt. .Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?...LinkedIn: / YouTube: / @blacklineltd Website: https://www.blacklineltd.com/--------------------------EXPLORE THE PODCASTSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/07rT0hF...Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast...
What does it take to build the next generation of skilled tradesmen?In this episode of The Line, Joshua D. Mellott sits down with the leadership team from the Blackline Institute to talk about apprenticeship, mentorship, and the responsibility of investing in people. As a new year of apprenticeship begins in Pennsylvania, the conversation explores why training is more than teaching a trade—it's about passing on a culture, developing leaders, and preparing men and women for long, meaningful careers.Together, they discuss what makes a great apprenticeship program, the role mentors play in shaping the future of the industry, and why companies that intentionally invest in their people build stronger teams, stronger businesses, and a stronger skilled trades community.Whether you're an apprentice, a journeyman, a business owner, or someone passionate about developing people, this episode is a reminder that the future of our industry is built one person at a time.Because the future of the skilled trades won't be left to chance. It will be built by those willing to teach.Step up to the line.--------------------------WHERE TO WATCH:Spotify https://open.spotify.com/show/07rT0hF...Apple https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast...-------------------------FOLLOW JOSH:X: https://x.com/Joshuadmellott... / joshuadmellott LinkedIn: / TikTok: / ucc11qg6hxwp7tmvmr_sv7vg --------------------------FOLLOW BLACKLINE: @blacklineltdInstagram: / blacklinelt. .Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?...LinkedIn: / YouTube: / @blacklineltd Website: https://www.blacklineltd.com/--------------------------EXPLORE THE PODCASTSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/07rT0hF...Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast...
Welcome to Blackline Field Notes, our weekly LinkedIn newsletter and companion conversation here on The Line.In this episode, Joshua D. Mellott explores Blackline Field Notes – Issue 002: Reputation Is Built Before the Bid. He shares why your reputation begins long before someone ever calls you, influences every opportunity you're given, and continues long after the project is complete.More than your work, your daily decisions, communication, character, and consistency shape the reputation others come to trust.Blackline Field Notes is dedicated to sharing practical lessons and hard-earned experience from those who have gone before you, helping you build a stronger career, business, and legacy in the skilled trades.Remember: your reputation is building.--------------------------WHERE TO WATCH:Spotify https://open.spotify.com/show/07rT0hF...Apple https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast...-------------------------FOLLOW JOSH:X: https://x.com/Joshuadmellott... / joshuadmellott LinkedIn: / TikTok: / ucc11qg6hxwp7tmvmr_sv7vg --------------------------FOLLOW BLACKLINE: @blacklineltdInstagram: / blacklinelt. .Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?...LinkedIn: / YouTube: / @blacklineltd Website: https://www.blacklineltd.com/--------------------------EXPLORE THE PODCASTSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/07rT0hF...Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast...
Blackline Field Notes | Issue 001: Every Contract Is a Proposal. Welcome to Blackline Field Notes, our weekly series where we share notes from the field—real experiences from our team, our clients, and the men and women we've had the privilege of working alongside throughout the skilled trades.The goal is simple: to share lessons learned, mistakes made, and practical insights that can help you build your business, advance your career, and navigate your own journey in the trades.These are shorter, one-on-one conversations that expand on each week's Field Notes newsletter. In this first issue, Joshua D. Mellott shares lessons from more than 20 years as a specialty contractor, covering contract writing, contract negotiation, and some of the costly pitfalls he experienced early in his career.Whether you're starting your own company, leading an established business, managing projects, or reviewing contracts for your organization, this conversation is designed to help you better protect yourself, your team, and the people who depend on you.The biggest takeaway is simple:Every contract is a proposal. It isn't something you have to accept exactly as it's written. Learning when to ask questions, negotiate terms, and protect your organization can make all the difference.Step up to the line. --------------------------WHERE TO WATCH:Spotify https://open.spotify.com/show/07rT0hF...Apple https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast...-------------------------FOLLOW JOSH:X: https://x.com/Joshuadmellott... / joshuadmellott LinkedIn: / TikTok: / ucc11qg6hxwp7tmvmr_sv7vg --------------------------FOLLOW BLACKLINE: @blacklineltdInstagram: / blacklinelt. .Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?...LinkedIn: / YouTube: / @blacklineltd Website: https://www.blacklineltd.com/--------------------------EXPLORE THE PODCASTSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/07rT0hF...Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast...
In this conversation, Rob Stoppard of Heart Centered Entrepreneurship gets to the heart of what it means to lead well. We talk about the importance of not giving your family the leftovers after you've poured everything into your work, but instead leading in a way that allows you to be fully present for the people who matter most.Rob shares thoughtful insights on learning to respond instead of react, taking a moment to pause before speaking, recognizing where you are emotionally, and leading with calm authority rather than emotion. We discuss how those simple disciplines shape healthier relationships, stronger teams, and better organizations.Whether you're leading a business, managing a crew, or simply striving to become a better husband, wife, parent, friend, or leader, this conversation is a reminder that leadership begins in the heart. When we learn to lead ourselves well, we're better equipped to lead others both at work and at home.--------------------------WHERE TO WATCH:Spotify https://open.spotify.com/show/07rT0hF...Apple https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast...-------------------------FOLLOW JOSH:X: https://x.com/Joshuadmellott... / joshuadmellott LinkedIn: / TikTok: / ucc11qg6hxwp7tmvmr_sv7vg --------------------------FOLLOW BLACKLINE: @blacklineltdInstagram: / blacklinelt. .Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?...LinkedIn: / YouTube: / @blacklineltd Website: https://www.blacklineltd.com/--------------------------EXPLORE THE PODCASTSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/07rT0hF...Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast...
Trust is built through the experience.In this episode of The Line, Joshua sits down with Caleb Fetter, President and Managing Partner of RMS, for a conversation about trust, culture, leadership, and what it means to truly invest in your people.Caleb shares how trust shapes every part of the business, from relationships with clients to relationships with employees and partners across the industry. It starts with understanding people: who they are, what they want from their careers, and how you can help create opportunities that fit the life they're trying to build.Because success isn't always about chasing the biggest number. It's about building a career, a culture, and a business that fits.Whether it's the customer experience, the employee experience, or the overall business experience, the details matter. How you structure it. How you communicate it. How you deliver it.RMS embodies that philosophy. Even their brand reflects who they are: simple, subtle, clean, and clear. They don't need to be the loudest voice in the room or the cheerleader out front. Their focus is on creating a seamless, effortless experience for their clients and their people.That level of attention to detail, excellence, and understanding of people has the ability to change the industry.Check out this conversation with Joshua and Caleb as they talk trust, culture, careers, branding, and why, at the end of the day, it's all about The Experience.Step up to the line.--------------------------WHERE TO WATCH:Spotify https://open.spotify.com/show/07rT0hF...Apple https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast...-------------------------FOLLOW JOSH:X: https://x.com/Joshuadmellott... / joshuadmellott LinkedIn: / TikTok: / ucc11qg6hxwp7tmvmr_sv7vg --------------------------FOLLOW BLACKLINE: @blacklineltdInstagram: / blacklinelt. .Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?...LinkedIn: / YouTube: / @blacklineltd Website: https://www.blacklineltd.com/--------------------------EXPLORE THE PODCASTSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/07rT0hF...Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast...
This week on The Line, DJ Risk steps up to the line.In this conversation, DJ shares what leadership really looks like—not from behind a logo, a LinkedIn post, or a YouTube video, but when the boots hit the dirt and the work has to get done. He talks about the responsibility of leaving your fingerprints on every project, every relationship, and the culture you're building.At the heart of that perspective is a legacy. DJ reflects on the influence of his grandfather and father, who invested in him and helped shape the values that continue to guide Paul Risk Construction today. Through seasons of challenge and success, they built more than projects—they built leaders.If you've heard of Paul Risk Construction, seen DJ's posts online, or wondered who the people behind the company really are, this conversation offers an honest look beyond the brand. Our hope is that you'll discover not only the story of Paul Risk Construction and the men and women who make it what it is, but also the fingerprints of leadership that are left behind when people choose to lead with character, humility, and purpose.This is The Line—real conversations with the men and women who build America.--------------------------WHERE TO WATCH:Spotify https://open.spotify.com/show/07rT0hF...Apple https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast...-------------------------FOLLOW JOSH:X: https://x.com/Joshuadmellott... / joshuadmellott LinkedIn: / TikTok: / ucc11qg6hxwp7tmvmr_sv7vg --------------------------FOLLOW BLACKLINE: @blacklineltdInstagram: / blacklinelt. .Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?...LinkedIn: / YouTube: / @blacklineltd Website: https://www.blacklineltd.com/--------------------------EXPLORE THE PODCASTSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/07rT0hF...Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast...
Every career has a starting point.For Nathan Maughan, it began washing dishes, working at a gas station, and helping on a farm. It wasn't a glamorous beginning, but it became the foundation for something much greater.In this episode of The Line, Nathan shares the journey that took him from apprentice to owner, leading multimillion-dollar construction and engineering projects while building and investing in people along the way. He reflects honestly on who he was when he started, the lessons he learned from those who invested in him, and the opportunities he embraced that shaped both his career and his life.Nathan's story is a reminder that success isn't reserved for a select few. It's built one day at a time through hard work, humility, perseverance, and a willingness to keep learning from the people around you.Whether you're just beginning your career, working through an apprenticeship, or leading a team of your own, this conversation is filled with practical wisdom and timeless lessons on what it really takes to build a career—and a life worth building.Build your career. Build your character. Build something that lasts.--------------------------WHERE TO WATCH:Spotify https://open.spotify.com/show/07rT0hF...Apple https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast...-------------------------FOLLOW JOSH:X: https://x.com/Joshuadmellott... / joshuadmellott LinkedIn: / TikTok: / ucc11qg6hxwp7tmvmr_sv7vg --------------------------FOLLOW BLACKLINE: @blacklineltdInstagram: / blacklinelt. .Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?...LinkedIn: / YouTube: / @blacklineltd Website: https://www.blacklineltd.com/--------------------------EXPLORE THE PODCASTSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/07rT0hF...Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast...
Leadership isn't built in a boardroom. It's built through people, experience, and the stories that shape us.In this episode of The Line Podcast, I sit down with Ilya Tlumach, President of JM Lapp, for a conversation about leadership, legacy, and what it means to steward an organization you didn't found.We discuss Ilya's family's journey from Ukraine, the values that have been passed from generation to generation, and how those principles continue to shape the culture and leadership of JM Lapp today.Along the way, we dive into topics every leader wrestles with:The difference between flow and hustleBuilding systems without losing your peopleWhy proximity isn't the same as presenceHow leaders unintentionally become disconnected from their teamsPreserving a founder's vision while leading the next generation of growthWhether you're leading a business, building a team, or simply trying to become a better leader, this conversation is full of practical wisdom and timeless perspective.If you enjoy conversations about leadership, culture, the skilled trades, business growth, and building organizations that last, be sure to subscribe and share this episode with someone who would benefit from it.--------------------------WHERE TO WATCH:Spotify https://open.spotify.com/show/07rT0hF...Apple https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast...-------------------------FOLLOW JOSH:X: https://x.com/Joshuadmellott... / joshuadmellott LinkedIn: / TikTok: / ucc11qg6hxwp7tmvmr_sv7vg --------------------------FOLLOW BLACKLINE: @blacklineltdInstagram: / blacklinelt. .Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?...LinkedIn: / YouTube: / @blacklineltd Website: https://www.blacklineltd.com/--------------------------EXPLORE THE PODCASTSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/07rT0hF...Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast...
In this episode of The Line, Joshua sits down with Arlan King of Bevanda Products to explore how something as simple as a coffee mug, cooler, or water bottle can tell a much bigger story.The conversation goes beyond branded merchandise and into the heart of what it means to build a company culture that values its people. Arlan shares how Bevanda has become a trusted partner to contractors and businesses across the skilled trades by creating products that crews are proud to carry and companies are proud to give.Together, they discuss relationships, leadership, branding, and why investing in people is always a worthwhile investment. They also explore the importance of honoring the men and women who do the work, building lasting partnerships, and creating organizations where people feel seen and appreciated.Whether you're a business owner, a leader, or someone who simply values craftsmanship and culture, this episode is a reminder that the little things often leave the biggest impression.Because at the end of the day, it's never just about the product. It's about the people who carry it.--------------------------WHERE TO WATCH:Spotify https://open.spotify.com/show/07rT0hF...Apple https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast...-------------------------FOLLOW JOSH:X: https://x.com/Joshuadmellott... / joshuadmellott LinkedIn: / TikTok: / ucc11qg6hxwp7tmvmr_sv7vg --------------------------FOLLOW BLACKLINE: @blacklineltdInstagram: / blacklinelt. .Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?...LinkedIn: / YouTube: / @blacklineltd Website: https://www.blacklineltd.com/--------------------------EXPLORE THE PODCASTSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/07rT0hF...Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast...
--------------------------WHERE TO WATCH:Spotify https://open.spotify.com/show/07rT0hF...Apple https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast...-------------------------FOLLOW JOSH:X: https://x.com/Joshuadmellott... / joshuadmellott LinkedIn: / TikTok: / ucc11qg6hxwp7tmvmr_sv7vg --------------------------FOLLOW BLACKLINE: @blacklineltdInstagram: / blacklinelt. .Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?...LinkedIn: / YouTube: / @blacklineltd Website: https://www.blacklineltd.com/--------------------------EXPLORE THE PODCASTSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/07rT0hF...Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast...
This past weekend marked the 82nd anniversary of D-Day, a time to remember the men and women who fought for the freedoms we enjoy today.What many people may not know is that the story of C.W. Matthews begins in the shadow of that generation. After returning home from World War II, C.W. Matthews founded the company in 1946. As Georgia grew, so did C.W. Matthews, investing in roads, infrastructure, communities, and the people who made it all possible.Nearly eighty years later, that legacy continues.In this episode of The Line, we sit down with John Faress, Vice President of Equipment at C.W. Matthews, at one of the company's newest asphalt plants. What starts as a conversation about asphalt, process, and what John calls "the kitchen" quickly becomes a discussion about leadership, culture, stewardship, and the responsibility of preparing the next generation.We talk about what leadership looks like today, how culture is built and maintained, and what it takes to invest not only in equipment and infrastructure, but in people. We explore the lessons learned from those who came before us and the responsibility we have to build something that will outlast us.Join us as we explore what it takes to build roads, build teams, and build a legacy that lasts far beyond the work itself.This is The Road.--------------------------WHERE TO WATCH:Spotify https://open.spotify.com/show/07rT0hF...Apple https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast...-------------------------FOLLOW JOSH:X: https://x.com/Joshuadmellott... / joshuadmellott LinkedIn: / TikTok: / ucc11qg6hxwp7tmvmr_sv7vg --------------------------FOLLOW BLACKLINE: @blacklineltdInstagram: / blacklinelt. .Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?...LinkedIn: / YouTube: / @blacklineltd Website: https://www.blacklineltd.com/--------------------------EXPLORE THE PODCASTSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/07rT0hF...Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast...
In this episode of The Line, we sit down with Marc Andrew, a firefighter from Detroit, for a real and honest conversation about leadership under pressure, purpose through hardship, and what it means to carry responsibility when the heat is on.Marc shares stories from the fireground, moments of intensity, sacrifice, and humanity that have shaped the way he leads both on and off the job. We talk about the importance of people understanding their value and worth, the need for young men and women to realize there are opportunities beyond the traditional four year degree, and how every individual learns and communicates differently.This conversation challenges leaders to think deeper about how they communicate, not just speaking, but truly connecting in a way that crosses barriers and reaches people where they are. Marc also opens up about his passion for the work, the love he has for serving others, and why these lessons mattered enough for him to write a book and share them with the world.This is a conversation about pressure, people, purpose, and leading through the heat.Step up to the line. --------------------------WHERE TO WATCH:Spotify https://open.spotify.com/show/07rT0hF...Apple https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast...-------------------------FOLLOW JOSH:X: https://x.com/Joshuadmellott... / joshuadmellott LinkedIn: / TikTok: / ucc11qg6hxwp7tmvmr_sv7vg --------------------------FOLLOW BLACKLINE: @blacklineltdInstagram: / blacklinelt. .Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?...LinkedIn: / YouTube: / @blacklineltd Website: https://www.blacklineltd.com/--------------------------EXPLORE THE PODCASTSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/07rT0hF...Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast...
The finish line has been crossed.One team is celebrating, and the rest are already preparing for next year.Those were the words Erik Cowden shared with us as we sat down together at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway to talk about the realities of racing, the highs and lows of competition, the pressure of performance, and what it takes to continue moving forward whether you win or lose.In this fourth and final episode of The Brickyard Series, we celebrate not only the greatest spectacle in racing, the Indianapolis 500, but also the men and women behind it all. The crews, the tradespeople, the teams, and the individuals whose hard work makes an event of this magnitude possible year after year.After experiencing the 110th Indianapolis 500 firsthand, we also want to take a moment this Memorial Day to honor the men and women in uniform. To our soldiers, sailors, airmen, Marines, and all those who have served and sacrificed, both past and present, thank you. Your sacrifice is what allows moments like these to exist.So step up to the line with us and hear what Erik Cowden of Arrow McLaren has to say as he shares his story, his perspective, and the reality of what it takes to keep pushing forward.--------------------------WHERE TO WATCH:Spotify https://open.spotify.com/show/07rT0hF...Apple https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast...-------------------------FOLLOW JOSH:X: https://x.com/Joshuadmellott... / joshuadmellott LinkedIn: / TikTok: / ucc11qg6hxwp7tmvmr_sv7vg --------------------------FOLLOW BLACKLINE: @blacklineltdInstagram: / blacklinelt. .Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?...LinkedIn: / YouTube: / @blacklineltd Website: https://www.blacklineltd.com/--------------------------EXPLORE THE PODCASTSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/07rT0hF...Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast...
In episode three of the Brickyard Series, Blackline goes behind the scenes at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway with Tyrone Garrison ahead of the 110th Indy 500.In this conversation, we walk the track, drive the facility, and uncover what it really takes to operate and maintain one of the most iconic race venues in the world. From the history of the bricks to the responsibility of preparing for race day, Tyrone shares the care, planning, and hard work that happen long before the green flag ever drops.But this conversation goes beyond racing.For Tyrone, the Indy 500 represents honoring the men and women who came before us, respecting the tradespeople and workers who make events like this possible, and remembering the people who do the work when nobody is looking.At Blackline, these are the stories we want to shine a light on because the comforts we enjoy and the experiences we love only exist because someone was willing to show up and do the hard work.One of the biggest takeaways from this episode:Hard work creates opportunity.Step up to the line with us as we go behind the scenes before the race starts. --------------------------WHERE TO WATCH:Spotify https://open.spotify.com/show/07rT0hF...Apple https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast...-------------------------FOLLOW JOSH:X: https://x.com/Joshuadmellott... / joshuadmellott LinkedIn: / TikTok: / ucc11qg6hxwp7tmvmr_sv7vg --------------------------FOLLOW BLACKLINE: @blacklineltdInstagram: / blacklinelt. .Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?...LinkedIn: / YouTube: / @blacklineltd Website: https://www.blacklineltd.com/--------------------------EXPLORE THE PODCASTSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/07rT0hF...Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast...
Episode 2 of The Brickyard Series: “The Track — What Lies Beneath the Surface”At Blackline, we believe the stories worth telling are often found beneath the surface.In this episode of The Line, Joshua Mellott sits down with Bill Pine of The Heritage Group at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway — or, as Bill calls it, “the track.”What starts as a conversation about asphalt quickly becomes something much deeper.Recorded near Victory Circle, this episode explores the engineering, science, craftsmanship, and intentionality required to build and maintain one of the most iconic racing surfaces in the world. From designing asphalt capable of enduring speeds over 200 miles per hour to thinking generationally about infrastructure, Bill shares what it means to care for something bigger than yourself.But this conversation is not just about the track.It's about the men and women who do the work. The people behind the projects. The responsibility of stewardship. The pursuit of excellence. And what lies beneath the surface not only in the asphalt, but in ourselves.This is The Brickyard Series.Real people. Real conversations. At the Brickyard.Step up to The Line.--------------------------WHERE TO WATCH:Spotify https://open.spotify.com/show/07rT0hF...Apple https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast...-------------------------FOLLOW JOSH:X: https://x.com/Joshuadmellott... / joshuadmellott LinkedIn: / TikTok: / ucc11qg6hxwp7tmvmr_sv7vg --------------------------FOLLOW BLACKLINE: @blacklineltdInstagram: / blacklinelt. .Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?...LinkedIn: / YouTube: / @blacklineltd Website: https://www.blacklineltd.com/--------------------------EXPLORE THE PODCASTSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/07rT0hF...Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast...
In this conversation kicking off our Brickyard Series, we sit down with Keaton Turner for a real one.We start a little differently. The first 20–30 minutes are an homage to his podcast, The Per Diem Podcast—a walk-and-talk around the Indianapolis Motor Speedway where Keaton does what he's known for… a straight-up rant. No video. Just real conversation.We talk about leadership, what it takes to surround yourself with the right people, and the importance of knowing who you are.Then we transition into the format you know from The Line—sitting down for an honest conversation about hardship, hard work, and what it means to invest in people and the future. We get into faith, business, and leadership, all while sitting near the finish line at the Speedway, surrounded by the history of those who came before us.This episode is a reminder that it's not just the people in the arena who make it happen. It's the men and women doing the work behind the scenes—the ones who build it, maintain it, and make the experience possible for everyone else.Tradesmen and racers alike—this one's for you.We're grateful for the people who make race day possible.This is what it means to go from the bedrock to the Brickyard.More to come in the Brickyard Series. --------------------------WHERE TO WATCH:Spotify https://open.spotify.com/show/07rT0hF...Apple https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast...-------------------------FOLLOW JOSH:X: https://x.com/Joshuadmellott... / joshuadmellott LinkedIn: / TikTok: / ucc11qg6hxwp7tmvmr_sv7vg --------------------------FOLLOW BLACKLINE: @blacklineltdInstagram: / blacklinelt. .Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?...LinkedIn: / YouTube: / @blacklineltd Website: https://www.blacklineltd.com/--------------------------EXPLORE THE PODCASTSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/07rT0hF...Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast...
The Only Easy Day Was Yesterday | Part 2 with Herb SargentIn part two of our conversation with Herb Sargent, we go beyond business and get into perspective.We start with something simple—an incredible conference table, a gift from the Sargent family back to the company. But what it represents isn't simple at all. It's legacy. It's ownership. It's a reminder of who you're building for.From there, Herb shares what he, his grandfather, and the Sargent family have seen over the past 100 years—the lessons, the mistakes, and what it really takes to build something that lasts.We talk honestly about today's construction economy and what it's doing to contractors and their people. How many are hanging on for dear life, like they built a rocket… but don't know how to fly it.This conversation is raw. It's honest. And it gets to the heart of building with intention.This episode is about being strategic, being effective, and building companies designed to last 100 years—not just survive the next one.Grateful for the time, the conversation, and what Sargent continues to model.--------------------------WHERE TO WATCH:Spotify https://open.spotify.com/show/07rT0hF...Apple https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast...-------------------------FOLLOW JOSH:X: https://x.com/Joshuadmellott... / joshuadmellott LinkedIn: / TikTok: / ucc11qg6hxwp7tmvmr_sv7vg --------------------------FOLLOW BLACKLINE: @blacklineltdInstagram: / blacklinelt. .Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?...LinkedIn: / YouTube: / @blacklineltd Website: https://www.blacklineltd.com/--------------------------EXPLORE THE PODCASTSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/07rT0hF...Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast...
The Hard Work Starts Today | Sargent 100-Year Story (Part 1 of 2)Most companies won't make it 100 years.Even fewer do it on purpose.This episode of The Line by Blackline LTD tells the story of Sargent, a 100% employee-owned company, and what it actually looks like to build something that lasts.In this conversation, Herb Sargent (chatgpt://generic-entity?number=0) shares how their team invests in people, develops the next generation, and thinks long-term, not just about the next project, but the next hundred years.We also sit down with Chandler, one of their operators, for a real, honest look at what that culture feels like on the ground and what the future of Sargent means to the people doing the work every day.This isn't just a story about longevity.It's about servant leadership, ownership, and choosing to invest in people so the work, and the impact, carry on long after you're gone.The hard work starts today.SUBSCRIBE + FOLLOW THE LINEIf you're in the skilled trades, leadership, or building something that matters, this is for you.Subscribe for more stories from the people who do the workFollow Blackline for more episodes and field conversationsShare this with someone building something that lasts⸻#Leadership #SkilledTrades #EmployeeOwnership #Construction #CompanyCulture #Blackline #TheHardWorkStartsToday--------------------------WHERE TO WATCH:Spotify https://open.spotify.com/show/07rT0hF...Apple https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast...-------------------------FOLLOW JOSH:X: https://x.com/Joshuadmellott... / joshuadmellott LinkedIn: / TikTok: / ucc11qg6hxwp7tmvmr_sv7vg --------------------------FOLLOW BLACKLINE: @blacklineltdInstagram: / blacklinelt. .Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?...LinkedIn: / YouTube: / @blacklineltd Website: https://www.blacklineltd.com/--------------------------EXPLORE THE PODCASTSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/07rT0hF...Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast...
I went to Massachusetts to sit down with Blue Collar Bobby.This is a real conversation about the sprinkler fitter trade, fire protection, and what it actually means to do the work.Bobby is also the host of The Dope and Tape Show, where they're talking with anyone in the fire protection industry, real conversations with the people actually doing it.We get into what it takes to earn your place.Not talking your way in, but proving you're worth investing in. Showing up in a way the older generation respects.Bobby shares stories from the field, some of the more complicated projects he's been a part of, and what it takes to figure things out when it matters.And like any honest conversation in the trades, there's plenty of laughter along the way. Because if you've done the work, you know the job comes with stories you can't make up.This one's real.
If you're not measuring your work, you don't actually know what you're doing.This Monday, I sit down with Marcos from Ruby-Collins as he leads a pipe crew and breaks down what that really means in the field.We talk about what it takes to understand your work, have the right tools in your hands, and see what others miss. Marcos shares how their team builds culture, trains the next guy up, and mentors for the future, not just for the job, but for life.This isn't just about pipework. It's about leadership, accountability, and learning how to balance the demands of the trades with the responsibility of a family.It's about knowing where you stand, where you're going, and making sure you measure up.Step up to the line with us and hear what Marcos has to say. --------------------------WHERE TO WATCH:Spotify https://open.spotify.com/show/07rT0hF...Apple https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast...-------------------------FOLLOW JOSH:X: https://x.com/Joshuadmellott... / joshuadmellott LinkedIn: / TikTok: / ucc11qg6hxwp7tmvmr_sv7vg --------------------------FOLLOW BLACKLINE: @blacklineltdInstagram: / blacklinelt. .Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?...LinkedIn: / YouTube: / @blacklineltd Website: https://www.blacklineltd.com/--------------------------EXPLORE THE PODCASTSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/07rT0hF...Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast...
This week, Blackline spent time in Georgia with Ruby-Collins, a general contractor that does things a little differently.From civil work to plant work, underground, boring, and more—this is a team that's been building for nearly 60 years out of Smyrna, Georgia.In this episode of The Line, we sit down with Jason Hyde, one of their VPs, inside their newly built office to talk about what they do, how they operate, and how they've been able to bridge the gap between generations.Not just talk about it—actually do it.What we saw is this: when leadership is intentional—when you care about people, when you listen, and when you have a clear vision for the future—you can bring the office and the field together… and you can bring generations together.And when that happens, both get stronger.Jason shares what their leadership has done to create a culture where people collaborate, grow, and move forward together.If you want to be a champion, you've got to be willing to pay the dues.This is The Line.See what Ruby-Collins is building. --------------------------WHERE TO WATCH:Spotify https://open.spotify.com/show/07rT0hF...Apple https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast...-------------------------FOLLOW JOSH:X: https://x.com/Joshuadmellott... / joshuadmellott LinkedIn: / TikTok: / ucc11qg6hxwp7tmvmr_sv7vg --------------------------FOLLOW BLACKLINE: @blacklineltdInstagram: / blacklinelt. .Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?...LinkedIn: / YouTube: / @blacklineltd Website: https://www.blacklineltd.com/--------------------------EXPLORE THE PODCASTSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/07rT0hF...Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast...
Building What Can't Fail. Moms are an interesting thing for me. My mother is one of the most influential people in my life, and I don't think that's uncommon. But I do think we underestimate what's really out there — the opportunities, and the women willing to do what it takes to make a difference not just in their kids' lives, but in our country and our future. I sat down with Liddy Fair of Micro Facture inside their manufacturing facility, where they produce precision components for companies like SpaceX, the United States Navy, and other critical industries. What they build cannot fail. And yet, most people have no idea what modern manufacturing actually looks like — the precision, the responsibility, and the opportunity that exists. In this conversation, Liddy shares: What it means to be a woman in manufacturing. The misconceptions around the trades. The reality of working in a family business. And what it looks like to be a mom while building something that matters. When I walked into her office, she had one of her kids on her hip before taking me out onto the floor to show me what they do. That moment stuck with me. This isn't just about manufacturing. It's about legacy, responsibility, and the people who are quietly building the future around us. Let's honor the women in the trades — in manufacturing, construction, and beyond — for the role they play in shaping our world and investing in the next generation. Because in more ways than we realize… They're building America.
In this episode of The Line, Joshua D. Mellott sits down with George Bee of U.S. Gold Corp to talk about what it actually takes to develop the next American gold mine. George shares insights into the exploration and development process, what his team is working on in the United States, and why domestic mining still matters for our economy and our country's future. Along the way, the conversation moves beyond mining into leadership, building organizations, and lessons learned from years in the industry about patience, discipline, and long-term thinking. It's an honest conversation about mining, leadership, and the industries that quietly power our economy. Step up to the line and join the conversation.
What happens when a company actually has a plan—not just to win work, but to change an industry? In this episode of The Line, I sit down with Garret Barbush of Warfel Construction. As he walked me through their strategic plan, one thing became clear: They're not just building projects. They're building a culture. At Blackline, we talk a lot about elevating the view of the skilled trades. Listening to Garret describe the investment they're making in people and in their organization, I realized something simple: Our plans align. Because the truth is, it doesn't really matter who gets the credit. What matters is that we're willing to step up to the line and make a difference. That means being intentional about how we treat people. Intentional about how we invest in our teams. From the field to the office.Because the reality is this: When a building goes up, every trade matters.If one of them didn't matter, they wouldn't be there.You can look successful for a while by chewing people up and spitting them out. Some companies do. But it won't last. You won't have a legacy. You'll have a horror story.Real success—the kind that lasts—comes when you value every member of the team. So today, step up to the line with Garret and me. Let's talk about The Plan.
In this episode of The Line, I sit down with Shane Stolp, CEO of Wescom, Inc., and host of the Energizing America Podcast.We talk about how we attract new talent to the trades — and the real opportunities that exist. The trades aren't a dead end. They're a launching point. The skills learned in the field can transfer into leadership, ownership, entrepreneurship, and countless other paths. In this conversation, Shane shares real wisdom — about his company, their success, and the broader opportunity we have in this country if we're willing to invest in people and elevate the view of blue-collar work. He's not only leading an electrical company — he's using his voice to champion the trades and the men and women who power America every day. I invite you to step up to the line with us and hear what Shane has to say. This was a great conversation. I truly enjoyed it.
The definition of the word trademark is simple. It's a symbol that identifies a company, a product, or a body of work. But at its origin in America, a trademark was something even more personal. It was your mark. It was how you gave your word. It was how you signed a contract, how you did business, how blacksmiths, stonemasons, and silversmiths marked their work so people knew exactly who stood behind it. I've always found that interesting. If you ever work with someone who doesn't want to mark their work, it's probably worth asking why. Why wouldn't you want people to know what you built, what you fixed, what you created? This week's episode is a little different. I'm not sitting down across from a guest. Well, I guess I am. I'm making you the guest. Step up to the line. We want to tell you what we're doing with Trademark magazine and why. This first issue is titled Leave Your Mark, and the purpose behind it matters. I could try to explain it all in writing, but the reality is that's why we recorded the podcast. If you want a deeper understanding of why we're doing this, I open up about some things that aren't always easy to admit. I ask myself the same questions I ask everyone else. What mistakes have you made? Where have you gotten it wrong? I try to answer honestly, even when it's uncomfortable.Here's the truth. Whether you ever listen to the podcast or just read this post, leaving your mark matters. It requires intention. If you're a business and you're not telling your story, if you're not communicating who you are and what you believe, you will struggle to find the right clients and the right people who align with your why. When you communicate your story and build your brand, you begin to attract the people who are aligned with what you're doing. And when that happens, your work becomes effective on a level that's hard to explain until you experience it. The podcast is now available wherever you listen. If you're curious about the heart behind Trademark and why leaving your mark matters, I'd encourage you to tune in. This episode is personal. Step up to the line.
This one was cold. As I write this post, I can still feel it.I sat down in the snow on a project with Christopher Maharg , Vice President of Legacy Electrical Services Inc. We were out there while his teams worked behind us to complete the project on time and under budget—words clients absolutely love to hear.We talked about what's needed in the trades and how his company sometimes feels called to provide a kind of nursery—a place where people can learn, where it's okay not to have it all figured out, and where those with experience understand that growth takes time. Chris shares some real and honest things about who he is, how he handles situations, and how he and his team are working to build electricians for the next generation.He challenges others in the field to do the same, because he believes it's something our industry desperately needs. Now an owner of the construction company he's been part of for so many years, he reflects on the opportunities he was given. Without what I'll call those “nursery” seasons, he wouldn't have come up through the trades with the knowledge, confidence, and ability to make decisions—or to have a vested interest in where the company is going.I joke about the cold, but we truly believe our studio is the jobsite. We stood in the cold because the men and women who do this work stand in the cold. They work in the heat. They work no matter what to bring projects out of the ground—to build a legacy that you and I get to live in and be a part of.Their sacrifice is what the trades are all about: serving others for their success in work and in life.I encourage you to check out this new episode of The Line by Blackline LTD , wherever you listen to podcasts.
The Line… it's quite an interesting term.Sometimes it means a podcast where two men sit and have an honest conversation.Sometimes it's a line in the sand—things you're not willing to cross.Sometimes it's a line on the battlefield, like Gettysburg, where men stood firm and held the line, refusing to let it be crossed.In this conversation, Dan Garcia and I are sitting in a farmhouse on the battlefield of Gettysburg as he steps up to the line with me on a podcast about the skilled trades. He shares his non-negotiables in leadership, talks about what he would do differently, and invites me to share those lessons with you.In this episode with Dan of CW Matthews, we unpack some important leadership truths about building strong teams and making a difference in our industry
If you don't want to micromanage, the simple answer is this: don't. Because if you're going to do it anyway, you might as well have done it yourself. In this conversation with Laurence Sisco of IronStrong Metal Fabrication , we talk about what it really means to build teams—and to build businesses that are strong. Not perfect, but strong. The kind of strength that comes from working through failure, not avoiding it, and using those moments to build people up.As our businesses grow—and as we age in business—it's easy to forget this. But building up the people on our teams, and the teams we work alongside, is paramount to long-term success.It's hard work. But it's worth it.And while we never want to forget that this is a business, we also can't forget that a business is made up of people—people with lives, families, friends, and responsibilities outside of work. The environments we create as owners, founders, leaders, and operators matter. They matter for the next generation and for those learning and growing in an industry that desperately needs healthy, strong leadership environments.--------------------------WHERE TO WATCH:Spotify https://open.spotify.com/show/07rT0hFAsPAZYCUF4OMBB7 Apple https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-line/id1722664848--------------------------FOLLOW JOSH:X: https://x.com/JoshuadmellottInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/Joshuadmellott LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joshua-d-mellott-0b0525118/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@UCC11qG6HXWP7TmVMr_Sv7Vg--------------------------FOLLOW BLACKLINE: @blacklineltd Instagram https://www.instagram.com/blacklineltd?igsh=a2wwbzJ3Y3Jjd2o4Facebook https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100095504736514https://www.linkedin.com/company/blackline-ltd/YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@blacklineLTDWebsite https://www.blacklineltd.com/-----------------------Explore the podcast https://open.spotify.com/show/07rT0hFAsPAZYCUF4OMBB7?si=0da16a8fb2574ca4https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-line/id1722664848
The Backyard is the final episode in our four-part series with Better In Our Back Yard—and it brings the conversation home.In this episode, we hear from members of the organization, as well as from Ryan Sistad , who leads Better In Our Backyard and serves as the primary leadership voice in this conversation. Ryan shares what he hopes people take away from being part of this work, and why the organization exists—to bring real value to its members and to advocate for something larger than any one company or project: a better backyard for all of us.At a time when minerals, strategic reserves, and national security dominate the news, this conversation serves as an important reminder. Mining—and the resources beneath our feet—have always played a critical role in sustaining our way of life. That hasn't changed. What often changes is our awareness of it.We've been honored to walk alongside the Better In Our Backyard team and to better understand the work they're doing. Our hope is that these conversations uncover something for you as well—reminding us of what matters, what deserves our focus, and why perseverance matters, especially in an industry that knows difficulty and pressure firsthand.From the entire Blackline team to Better In Our Backyard, thank you—for your leadership, your conviction, and your commitment to helping companies and organizations bring value, raise awareness, and operate responsibly. This is The Backyard—yours and ours. May we all take responsibility for making it a better one.--------------------------WHERE TO WATCH:Spotify https://open.spotify.com/show/07rT0hFAsPAZYCUF4OMBB7 Apple https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-line/id1722664848--------------------------FOLLOW JOSH:X: https://x.com/JoshuadmellottInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/Joshuadmellott LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joshua-d-mellott-0b0525118/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@UCC11qG6HXWP7TmVMr_Sv7Vg--------------------------FOLLOW BLACKLINE: @blacklineltd Instagram https://www.instagram.com/blacklineltd?igsh=a2wwbzJ3Y3Jjd2o4Facebook https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100095504736514https://www.linkedin.com/company/blackline-ltd/YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@blacklineLTDWebsite https://www.blacklineltd.com/-----------------------Explore the podcast https://open.spotify.com/show/07rT0hFAsPAZYCUF4OMBB7?si=0da16a8fb2574ca4https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-line/id1722664848
The Bedrock is where the resources sit—and what everything above it is built on. It's what we build with, and ultimately, what determines the strength and longevity of what we leave behind.In this episode, we bring together conversations with Jon Cherry , Stephen Donohue , and J.T. Starzeki —leaders who are focused on the bedrock of America and the responsibility that comes with stewarding its resources. They speak candidly about where we need to be more intentional, how we need to change the way we look at domestic resources, and what it means to lead that change rather than wait for it.These are men who are stepping up to the line—pioneering new approaches, leading with conviction, and doing the work required to make a real difference. This is why they are part of Better In Our Back Yard , and why they are committed to building a future that is stronger, more responsible, and more sustainable—for you and for me.As Better In Our Backyard recently gathered for its Annual Dinner, this conversation serves as an important reminder. While most of us go about our daily lives, there are men and women across mining organizations and companies doing the work that makes those lives possible—providing the materials, energy, and foundation our future is built on. The Bedrock is about recognizing that responsibility and choosing to build on it the right way.--------------------------WHERE TO WATCH:Spotify https://open.spotify.com/show/07rT0hFAsPAZYCUF4OMBB7Apple https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-line/id1722664848-------------------------FOLLOW JOSH:X: https://x.com/JoshuadmellottInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/JoshuadmellottLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joshua-d-mellott-0b0525118/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@UCC11qG6HXWP7TmVMr_Sv7Vg--------------------------FOLLOW BLACKLINE: @blacklineltdInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/blacklineltd?igsh=a2wwbzJ3Y3Jjd2o4Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100095504736514LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/blackline-ltd/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@blacklineLTDWebsite: https://www.blacklineltd.com/--------------------------EXPLORE THE PODCASTSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/07rT0hFAsPAZYCUF4OMBB7?si=0da16a8fb2574ca4Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-line/id1722664848
The Ground is the second episode in our four-part series with Better In Our Back Yard , as we continue reflecting on 250 years of building in the United States of America during the opening weeks of January 2026.In this episode, Jessica Johnson , Vice President of Talon Metals Corp. , walks through an important distinction—preservation versus conservation—and why that difference matters. She speaks honestly about the reality that simply by living and breathing, we are using the ground every single day. Everything we rely on is either mined from the ground or grown from it. If it's not mined, it's grown.Jessica explains, with clarity and conviction, why conservation—not avoidance—is the responsible path forward. She shares thoughtful insight into who we are as people and how we canuse the resources we've been entrusted with efficiently, responsibly, and respectfully—so that this ground can continue to sustain life not just today, but for generations to come.The Ground drops Monday, January 12, 2026. If these conversations resonate, we invite you to follow along—and stand alongside other like-minded men, women, and organizations committed to ensuring the ground beneath our feet is better in our backyard.--------------------------WHERE TO WATCH:Spotify https://open.spotify.com/show/07rT0hFAsPAZYCUF4OMBB7 Apple https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-line/id1722664848-------------------------FOLLOW JOSH:X: https://x.com/JoshuadmellottInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/JoshuadmellottLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joshua-d-mellott-0b0525118/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@UCC11qG6HXWP7TmVMr_Sv7Vg--------------------------FOLLOW BLACKLINE: @blacklineltd Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/blacklineltd?igsh=a2wwbzJ3Y3Jjd2o4Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100095504736514LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/blackline-ltd/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@blacklineLTDWebsite: https://www.blacklineltd.com/--------------------------EXPLORE THE PODCASTSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/07rT0hFAsPAZYCUF4OMBB7?si=0da16a8fb2574ca4Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-line/id1722664848
For 250 years, this country has been built by men and women willing to step up to the line—willing to walk on the dirt, stand on the ground, and do the work that begins at the bedrock. Long before headlines and soundbites, there was responsibility. There was stewardship. There was an understanding that what lies beneath our feet matters, because it supports everything above it—our communities, our economy, and our way of life.As we enter the first four weeks of January 2026, Blackline—in partnership with Better In Our Backyard—will be sharing a four-part series of real, honest conversations rooted in that foundation. Each week, we'll release an episode leading into the Better In Our Backyard Annual Dinner on January 15, centered on responsible industrial development, strong local economies, and the people who do the work that sustains modern life.The series unfolds in four parts: The Dirt. The Ground. The Bedrock. And The Backyard.These conversations are about more than industry—they're about responsibility. About developing resources the right way. About investing in local workforces, strengthening communities, and educating people on why domestic mining, manufacturing, and infrastructure matter. Better In Our Backyard exists to bring value to the companies, organizations, and men and women who walk on the dirt, stand on the ground, and build on the bedrock of this country—so families can thrive and communities can endure.Over the next four weeks, follow along—and stand alongside other like-minded men, women, and organizations who believe a stronger future is built locally, intentionally, and with care. If that resonates, you can learn more and register to attend the Better In Our Backyard Annual Dinner on January 15 through the link. Because a better economy, a better community, and a better future all start the same way—right here, in our backyard.--------------------------WHERE TO WATCH:Spotify https://open.spotify.com/show/07rT0hFAsPAZYCUF4OMBB7 Apple https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-line/id1722664848-------------------------FOLLOW JOSH:X: https://x.com/JoshuadmellottInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/JoshuadmellottLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joshua-d-mellott-0b0525118/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@UCC11qG6HXWP7TmVMr_Sv7Vg--------------------------FOLLOW BLACKLINE: @blacklineltd Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/blacklineltd?igsh=a2wwbzJ3Y3Jjd2o4Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100095504736514LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/blackline-ltd/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@blacklineLTDWebsite: https://www.blacklineltd.com/--------------------------EXPLORE THE PODCASTSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/07rT0hFAsPAZYCUF4OMBB7?si=0da16a8fb2574ca4Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-line/id1722664848
Dave is familiar to audiences through shows like Gold Rush, but what stood out most in this conversation had nothing to do with television. It was his perspective on work. On the trades. And on what happens when a person is given the dignity, responsibility, and opportunity to build something with their hands.Dave talks openly about how the trades can be therapy. How work itself can be a pathway through hardship—helping people process difficult seasons, regain confidence, and even escape abusive or limiting situations. In a country that offers the freedom and opportunity to work, the trades can quite literally change the trajectory of a life. But only if we choose to see their value. That choice matters. Because when we recognize the importance of the work being done, we begin to understand the people doing it. And when we understand the people, we begin to see the true power of the skilled trades. This conversation dives deeply into mining—an industry that has been part of America since the very beginning. Mining has provided not only gold and precious metals, but opportunity, stability, and long-term security. It has helped build the foundation of this country, and it continues to play a critical role in what lies ahead. Dave is clear about one thing: he doesn't want to be the story. He wants their stories to be told—the men and women who show up, do the work, and quietly carry the weight of industries most people never think about. His hope is that through understanding the trades, others will recognize the pride, purpose, and potential found within them. In this first episode of Season Three of The Line Podcast, we invite you to step up to the line with us. To have a real, honest conversation. To reflect on where we've come from—and to look ahead at the future in front of us. As we approach 250 years of America, we believe that future is still built by hands willing to work.Happy New Year. Welcome to 2026.--------------------------WHERE TO WATCH:Spotify https://open.spotify.com/show/07rT0hFAsPAZYCUF4OMBB7 Apple https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-line/id1722664848-------------------------FOLLOW JOSH:X: https://x.com/JoshuadmellottInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/JoshuadmellottLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joshua-d-mellott-0b0525118/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@UCC11qG6HXWP7TmVMr_Sv7Vg--------------------------FOLLOW BLACKLINE: @blacklineltd Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/blacklineltd?igsh=a2wwbzJ3Y3Jjd2o4Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100095504736514LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/blackline-ltd/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@blacklineLTDWebsite: https://www.blacklineltd.com/--------------------------EXPLORE THE PODCASTSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/07rT0hFAsPAZYCUF4OMBB7?si=0da16a8fb2574ca4Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-line/id1722664848
As we look back on 2025, we're reminded just how meaningful this year has been.Through our podcasts, we've had the privilege of sitting down for some truly powerful conversations — stories of leadership, grit, failure, growth, and conviction. These weren't just interviews; they were moments that reminded us why this work matters.At Blackline, we exist because of the men and women who show up every day to build — the infrastructure, the systems, the companies, and ultimately the world we all live in. Your work often goes unseen, but it is never unnoticed here.As we recap a few of the conversations from this past year, we simply want to say thank you for investing in the future and for carrying the weight that real work requires.From all of us at Blackline,Merry Christmas and Happy New Year. --------------------------WHERE TO WATCH:Spotify https://open.spotify.com/show/07rT0hFAsPAZYCUF4OMBB7 Apple https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-line/id1722664848-------------------------FOLLOW JOSH:X: https://x.com/JoshuadmellottInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/JoshuadmellottLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joshua-d-mellott-0b0525118/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@UCC11qG6HXWP7TmVMr_Sv7Vg--------------------------FOLLOW BLACKLINE: @blacklineltd Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/blacklineltd?igsh=a2wwbzJ3Y3Jjd2o4Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100095504736514LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/blackline-ltd/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@blacklineLTDWebsite: https://www.blacklineltd.com/--------------------------EXPLORE THE PODCASTSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/07rT0hFAsPAZYCUF4OMBB7?si=0da16a8fb2574ca4Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-line/id1722664848
Merry Christmas. As Christmas approaches, and as we drop our podcasts every Monday here at Blackline LTD , our team wanted to give our listeners a gift, the gift of leadership. We sat down with Wally Adamchik CMC, CSP, MBA on the battlefields of Gettysburg to talk about what leadership really is, how you attain it, how you keep it, and how you build it.It is truly one of the most powerful locations we've recorded in so far, and standing there, it's impossible not to think about the men and women who sacrificed so that you and I could live the lives we live today.The symbols of leadership on the battlefield translate clearly to life and to the jobsite. While we may not be getting shot at, and the risks may not be as obvious as they were then, they are no less real. The decisions we make as leaders are noless important. When you lead people, you affect their lives, for good or for bad, toward a brighter future or toward no future at all.Wally shares wisdom from more than two decades of being invited into boardrooms and companies across the country. He shares his heart, and he shares the truth. For me, thisconversation was a gift, which is exactly why we're calling this episode The Gift of Leadership. And Wally is bringing it to you this Christmas. I hope everyone in our industries, and beyond, has a very Merry Christmas and a prosperous and amazing New Year. Remember, that's a decision you can make with a little bit ofoptimism. Those are Wally's words, not mine, but they're true, and that's what matters.--------------------------WHERE TO WATCH:Spotify https://open.spotify.com/show/07rT0hFAsPAZYCUF4OMBB7 Apple https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-line/id1722664848--------------------------FOLLOW WALLYWebsite: https://www.wallyadamchik.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/wallyadamchik/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/wallyadamchik--------------------------FOLLOW JOSH:X: https://x.com/JoshuadmellottInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/JoshuadmellottLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joshua-d-mellott-0b0525118/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@UCC11qG6HXWP7TmVMr_Sv7Vg--------------------------FOLLOW BLACKLINE: @blacklineltd Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/blacklineltd?igsh=a2wwbzJ3Y3Jjd2o4Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100095504736514LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/blackline-ltd/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@blacklineLTDWebsite: https://www.blacklineltd.com/--------------------------EXPLORE THE PODCASTSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/07rT0hFAsPAZYCUF4OMBB7?si=0da16a8fb2574ca4Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-line/id1722664848
Lou brings a rare perspective—rooted in the blue-collar world and shaped by time spent doing the work himself, from carpentry to self-performing in the field. Through that experience, he saw a gap in the industry: technology that actually serves the trades and helps companies operate more effectively.In this conversation, Lou unpacks the why behind Lumber—how it was built to support the men and women who do the work by improving how teams manage resources, finances, and certified payroll without slowing them down. Together, Joshua and Lou discuss what it looks like to operate as a team, adopt technology that can keep up with growth, and continue innovating in an industry that can't afford to stand still.This episode is a thoughtful look at where the trades have been—and where they're headed.
In this episode of The Line, Joshua D. Mellott sits down with Ryan and Lisa from Better In Our Back Yard at their inaugural Better In Our Backyard Mining & Energy Expo. They talk about the importance of this industry and the people who make it work. Ryan Sistad breaks down what can happen when you don't let your concerns hold you back—why being intentional matters, why choosing to make an impact matters, and why doing something that genuinely makes our world a better place benefits you, me, and everyone who lives in it.Lisa Bodine shares some phenomenal marketing insight and has an honest, real conversation as we talk about what it takes to communicate the stories of the men and women who do this work—work that is so important and so often overlooked.We encourage you to check this one out. It drops Monday at 5 AM wherever you listen to podcasts.
What do you do?It's a question we get a lot at Blackline. How do you do it? Why do you do it?In this episode, I sit down with you—the listener, the one asking the questions—and we talk about exactly that. We talk about what we do at Blackline, why we do it, and where we're headed.At the core of the Lifting the View of the Skilled Trades is one simple mission: communicate the value of the men and women who do the work.We are so appreciative of the lives we get to live and the comfort we live them in, and we recognize that the people who do the work are the reason why. Their stories matter. Their stories need to be told.We believe the best way to build your brand is by telling the story of your people—the ones who raise the organization, who collaborate, who recognize that they are leaders, part of the solution and not the problem. Those are the stories we want you to know. Those are the people we need to be training, investing in, and building into for the next generation.In this episode of The Line, I talk about that. I talk about who these people are—and how you might not realize it, but you're one of them too.Check out this episode everywhere you listen to podcasts.It drops tonight at 5 PM.#SkilledTrades #TheLinePodcast #Tradespeople #LeadershipInTheTrades #TradeCulture #StorytellingInTheTrades #BlueCollarExcellence #SkilledTradesRise #BuildYourLegacy #BlacklineBuilt #TradesLeadership #LiftTheView--------------------------WHERE TO WATCH:Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/07rT0hFAsPAZYCUF4OMBB7 Apple :https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-line/id1722664848--------------------------PREVIOUS PODCASTSMike Holt: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cs14jbGEHU&t=17sMarcus Sheridan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yik8zOjRR3Y&t=18s--------------------------FOLLOW JOSH:X: https://x.com/JoshuadmellottInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/JoshuadmellottLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joshua-d-mellott-0b0525118/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@UCC11qG6HXWP7TmVMr_Sv7Vg--------------------------FOLLOW BLACKLINE: @blacklineltdInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/blacklineltd?igsh=a2wwbzJ3Y3Jjd2o4Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100095504736514LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/blackline-ltd/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@blacklineLTDWebsite: https://www.blacklineltd.com/--------------------------EXPLORE THE PODCASTSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/07rT0hFAsPAZYCUF4OMBB7?si=0da16a8fb2574ca4Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-line/id1722664848
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