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If any of you listened to the trailer I dropped a couple weeks ago, for We Met Online: Season 2, you might recognize the voice of today's guest, Dr Roger McFillin. Or you might recognize it from his own show, The Radically Genuine Podcast, which ranks in the top 2% of downloads worldwide Dr. McFillin is a clinical psychologist and a writer, who devoted his 20 year career to providing care for adults and adolescents struggling with depression, eating disorders, PTSD, and suicidal behavior, and has also become deeply disillusioned with the mental health system in this country, particularly its connection the pharmaceutical industry, which has led to what he believes is the rampant overprescription of ineffective — and often dangerous — psychotropic drugs. Sit back and listen as we discuss incels, loneliness, the mental health system, some pretty dark secrets about pharmaceuticals, and even a bit about my own firsthand experiences of late! "Anything, Anything (I'll Give You)" by Dramarama. 1985. Courtesy of Chameleon Records. ——————————————————————— Please check out my Patreon channel for bonus content, newsletters, community, and early, ad-free episodes on www.patreon.com/naamakates ——————————————————————— INCEL is created and produced by Naama Kates for Crawlspace Media. Music by Cyrus Melchor. —————————————————————— If you or someone you know is struggling emotionally, or having a hard time, please call someone, or contact one of the excellent resources provided below. —————————————————————— Suicide Prevention Lifeline w: https://suicidepreventionlifeline.org/ t: 1.800.273.8255—————————————————————— Samaritans Website: https://www.samaritans.org and telephone (UK): 116.123 —————————————————————— Please contact Naama at INCEL with any comments, inquiries, or just random thoughts: e: theincelproject@gmail.comThis show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/5608426/advertisement

WMO: Season Two is Naama's real-time investigation into the events that have transpired since the final episode of Season One: a gothic novel come to life.This show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/5608426/advertisement

Today's episode is with Vintologi, the founder of the eponymous "religion" and author of the Transmaxxing Manifesto. It was recorded in July of 2021 if certain references are out of date. It was certainly interesting to revisit after my recent episode with Tina, on The TRANSMaxxing Redux episode.------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Misery is a Butterly" by Blonde Redhead. 2004. Courtesy of Beggars Music Group. ——————————————————————— INCEL is created and produced by Naama Kates for Crawlspace Media. Music by Cyrus Melchor. —————————————————————— If you or someone you know is struggling emotionally, or having a hard time, please call someone, or contact one of the excellent resources provided below. —————————————————————— Suicide Prevention Lifeline w: https://suicidepreventionlifeline.org/ t: 1.800.273.8255 —————————————————————— Samaritans Website: https://www.samaritans.org and telephone (UK): 116.123 —————————————————————— Please contact Naama at INCEL with any comments, inquiries, or just random thoughts: e: theincelproject@gmail.comThis show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/5608426/advertisement

After a very brief TL;DR of this whole sordid business that's been ruining my life for the better part of a year, we dive into an interview with... another British criminologist... named Christopher Lowe (@ChrisLowe1994), who's working on his masters and focusing on incels. It's a lovely conversation that I'm sure you'll enjoy!PS Stay tuned at the end for a little public service announcement regarding certain behaviors that are COMPLETELY INAPPROPRIATE and their consequences, starting now."Every Breath You Take" by The Police. 1983. Polydor Records. ——————————————————————— INCEL is created and produced by Naama Kates for Crawlspace Media. Music by Cyrus Melchor. —————————————————————— If you or someone you know is struggling emotionally, or having a hard time, please call someone, or contact one of the excellent resources provided below. —————————————————————— Suicide Prevention Lifeline w: https://suicidepreventionlifeline.org/ t: 1.800.273.8255 —————————————————————— Samaritans Website: https://www.samaritans.org and telephone (UK): 116.123 —————————————————————— Please contact Naama at INCEL with any comments, inquiries, or just random thoughts: e: theincelproject@gmail.comThis show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/5608426/advertisement

Here's the second half of my conversation with Tonic! If you haven't listened to the first part, please go back and check it out, for more of his life story and a history of incel spaces, to lead into some deeper and darker waters about Elliott Rodger, r/IncelTear, macabre poasting, and the experience of having one's words transformed into art. Part 2 of 2. ——————————————————————— "Fuck it I love you" by Lana Del Rey. 2019. Interscope Records. ——————————————————————— Please check out my Patreon channel for bonus content, newsletters, community, and early, ad-free episodes on www.patreon.com/naamakates ——————————————————————— INCEL is created and produced by Naama Kates for Crawlspace Media. Music by Cyrus Melchor. —————————————————————— If you or someone you know is struggling emotionally, or having a hard time, please call someone, or contact one of the excellent resources provided below. —————————————————————— Suicide Prevention Lifeline w: https://suicidepreventionlifeline.org/ t: 1.800.273.8255—————————————————————— Samaritans Website: https://www.samaritans.org and telephone (UK): 116.123 —————————————————————— Please contact Naama at INCEL with any comments, inquiries, or just random thoughts: e: theincelproject@gmail.comThis show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/5608426/advertisement

Today's episode is a true return-to-form to very early days of the pod, as Tonic and I discuss the very early days of the community — long-gone places like love shy, r/incelswithouthate, r/askanincel and r/ inceltears. We also talk about the ER manifesto, the need for an affirmative incel identity, manipulative documentarians, the redemptive promise of the arts and connection, and his insights are absolutely brilliant. Part 1 of 2. "Change the World" by Eric Clapton. 1996. The Orchard Music. ——————————————————————— Please check out my Patreon channel for bonus content, newsletters, community, and early, ad-free episodes on www.patreon.com/naamakates ——————————————————————— INCEL is created and produced by Naama Kates for Crawlspace Media. Music by Cyrus Melchor. —————————————————————— If you or someone you know is struggling emotionally, or having a hard time, please call someone, or contact one of the excellent resources provided below. —————————————————————— Suicide Prevention Lifeline w: https://suicidepreventionlifeline.org/ t: 1.800.273.8255—————————————————————— Samaritans Website: https://www.samaritans.org and telephone (UK): 116.123 —————————————————————— Please contact Naama at INCEL with any comments, inquiries, or just random thoughts: e: theincelproject@gmail.comThis show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/5608426/advertisement

34-year-old John (@evilcorgi69) is a writer from North Carolina. He's an incel, and he's had a difficult life, he's a male survivor of childhood sexual abuse and he's been grossly mistreated by the travesty that is the mental healthcare system in this country. As you're about to hear, John is charming, articulate, insightful, and kind, so on one hand, I really enjoyed talking to him. But his account of his experiences was also utterly infuriating..."Protection" by Massive Attack. 1994. Wild Bunch Records. ——————————————————————— Please check out my Patreon channel for bonus content, newsletters, community, and early, ad-free episodes on www.patreon.com/naamakates ——————————————————————— INCEL is created and produced by Naama Kates for Crawlspace Media. Music by Cyrus Melchor. —————————————————————— If you or someone you know is struggling emotionally, or having a hard time, please call someone, or contact one of the excellent resources provided below.This show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/5608426/advertisement

Tina (@LlamatoTina) is a 23 year old transwoman from Germany - a former associate of Vintologi, the Swedish author of the eponymous Transmaxxing Manifesto. She is a transmaxxer qua transmaxxer, who endorses transitioning for all sorts of reasons besides gender dysphoria, including "personal gain" and escaping inceldom. But her own story is much more complex. "Our Lips Are Sealed" by The Go-Go's. 1981. Courtesy of I.R.S. Records. Check out Tina's YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@llamato ——————————————————————— Please check out my Patreon channel for bonus content, newsletters, community, and early, ad-free episodes on www.patreon.com/naamakates ——————————————————————— INCEL is created and produced by Naama Kates for Crawlspace Media. Music by Cyrus Melchor. —————————————————————— If you or someone you know is struggling emotionally, or having a hard time, please call someone, or contact one of the excellent resources provided below. —————————————————————— Suicide Prevention Lifeline w: https://suicidepreventionlifeline.org/ t: 1.800.273.8255—————————————————————— Samaritans Website: https://www.samaritans.org and telephone (UK): 116.123 —————————————————————— Please contact Naama at INCEL with any comments, inquiries, or just random thoughts: e: theincelproject@gmail.comThis show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/5608426/advertisement

While Katherine Dee is away on special assignment, Naama and special guest, Brooke (her IRL bessie) discuss the cultural phenomenon of Tradwives: Who are they? Do they have any influence? Are they... dangerous?References:RedPillWives:https://www.reddit.com/r/RedPillWives/Thoughts on Tradthots:https://didacticmind.com/2017/12/thoughts-on-tradthots.htmlAllie Beth Stuckey:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vd2B5NI6rfE&t=380sJustPearlyThingz:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vd2B5NI6rfE&t=380sThis show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/5608426/advertisement

Katherine and Naama explore the infinitely imaginative space of erotic fan fiction by discussing "Slash," the 2016 indie gem starring Michael Johnston and Hannah Marks.References:"Slash" (2016) IMDb: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4729990/ Archive of Our Own: https://archiveofourown.org/FanFiction.Net: https://www.fanfiction.net/Fansplaining (website and podcast): https://www.fansplaining.com/This show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/5608426/advertisement

Naama and Katherine briefly wade in the waters of the Manosphere, by reading some iconic posts and discussing them. This one gets lively. Part 2 of 2. References:Sex and Character, by Otto Weininger (1906): https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1692509/pdf/medlibhistj00008-0073.pdf 5 Reasons to Date a Girl with an Eating Disorder: https://web.archive.org/web/20131127074616/http://www.returnofkings.com/21313/5-reasons-to-date-a-girl-with-an-eating-disorderLadder Theory: https://laddertheory.com/The Unbearable Triteness of Hating: https://heartiste.org/2010/05/27/the-unbearable-triteness-of-hating/More Grim News for Carouselers: https://dalrock.wordpress.com/2012/11/24/more-grim-news-for-carousellers-hoping-to-jump-at-the-last-minute/This show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/5608426/advertisement

Today's episode, officially 100, brings you a timeless theme: a currycel comes to the West with hopes of living out the immigrant dream. But it doesn't quite work out as planned, as ThirdWorldCel describes alienation, disappointment, and depression from his ubiquitous perspective. "Born to Die" by Lana Del Rey. 2011. Interscope Records. ———————————————————————Discord: thirdworldcel#4881 —————————————————————————————————————————————— Please check out my Patreon channel for bonus content, newsletters, community, and early, ad-free episodes on www.patreon.com/naamakates ——————————————————————— INCEL is created and produced by Naama Kates for Crawlspace Media. Music by Cyrus Melchor. —————————————————————— If you or someone you know is struggling emotionally, or having a hard time, please call someone, or contact one of the excellent resources provided below. —————————————————————— Suicide Prevention Lifeline w: https://suicidepreventionlifeline.org/ t: 1.800.273.8255—————————————————————— Samaritans Website: https://www.samaritans.org and telephone (UK): 116.123 —————————————————————— Please contact Naama at INCEL with any comments, inquiries, or just random thoughts: e: theincelproject@gmail.comThis show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/5608426/advertisement

Naama and Katherine briefly wade in the waters of the Manosphere, by reading some iconic posts and discussing them. This one gets lively. Part 1 of 2. References:Sex and Character, by Otto Weininger (1906): https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1692509/pdf/medlibhistj00008-0073.pdf 5 Reasons to Date a Girl with an Eating Disorder: https://web.archive.org/web/20131127074616/http://www.returnofkings.com/21313/5-reasons-to-date-a-girl-with-an-eating-disorderLadder Theory: https://laddertheory.com/The Unbearable Triteness of Hating: https://heartiste.org/2010/05/27/the-unbearable-triteness-of-hating/More Grim News for Carouselers: https://dalrock.wordpress.com/2012/11/24/more-grim-news-for-carousellers-hoping-to-jump-at-the-last-minute/

Today Katherine and Naama discuss Nora Ephron's 1998 romantic comedy, "You've Got Mail" along with a host of questions about falling in love online, digital psychosis, and if it's possible to pairbond during cybersex.Subscribe on Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts and follow on Twitter @wemetonlinepod.

Today's episode is about what they're all about - obsessions, rejections, frustrations, and putting one foot in front of the other in the face of it all. It features Trevor (@mrmapleleafrag), a 26-year-old incel and writer from far up North in Canada, who works in local news, and struggles with OCD. We discuss his experiences with the mental health system and dating, and a savage one-itis on a counselor that still haunts him. "LOVE." by Kendrick Lamar. 2017. Courtesy of UMG. Read Trevor's substack on: mapleleafrag.substack.com——————————————————————— Please check out my Patreon channel for bonus content, newsletters, community, and early, ad-free episodes on www.patreon.com/naamakates ——————————————————————— INCEL is created and produced by Naama Kates for Crawlspace Media. Music by Cyrus Melchor. —————————————————————— If you or someone you know is struggling emotionally, or having a hard time, please call someone, or contact one of the excellent resources provided below. —————————————————————— Suicide Prevention Lifeline w: https://suicidepreventionlifeline.org/ t: 1.800.273.8255—————————————————————— Samaritans Website: https://www.samaritans.org and telephone (UK): 116.123 —————————————————————— Please contact Naama at INCEL with any comments, inquiries, or just random thoughts: e: theincelproject@gmail.com

Katherine and Naama discuss the phenomenon of Spreadsheet Dating: an optimized approach to love for the #girlboss of recent history. Read the piece in Vice: https://www.vice.com/en/article/4a3dew/optimisation-dating-hustle-culture-match-makingAnd take the love calculation based on the 37% rule: https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/math/a30859888/calculate-love-valentines-day/Subscribe on Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts and follow on Twitter @wemetonlinepod.

Naama and Katherine discuss all things cam girls: the history, psychology, and cultural context from whence they came, and discover that they might be the first to do so. Subscribe to "we met online" for new episodes every Monday and listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4LKzPoXGP5ov2aVQdQT0ue?si=53ea613072bc47e1

Katherine and Naama discuss the popular personal advertisement section known as "Missed Connections," made popular on Craigslist. Who and what are the authors of these ads really hoping to attract? Subscribe to "we met online" for new episodes every Monday on anchor.fm/we-met-online, substack.com/wemetonline and follow us on twitter @wemetonlinepod.

A bonus episode that will most likely self-destruct within 24 hours about the events of this week and weaponized concern trolling.Bartók: Dance Suite, Sz. 77 - 1. Moderato. London Philharmonic. 1965 Decca Music Group Limited.

On the inaugural episode of "we met online," Naama and Katherine discuss 2011's seminal doc, Catfish: the film that launched the TV show, the phenomenon, and the prolific career f its star, Nev Schulman. Subscribe at: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/we-met-online/episodes/CATFISH-e21os99/a-a9k7oeo

Here's a bonus episode with Dr Sohom Das (@dr_s_das), a London-based forensic psychiatrist, author, and YouTuber who I met on the Shaun Attwood Show, answering some of my questions about violence, criminal behavior, mental illness and where they all meet. Check out Dr. Das's YouTube channel, "A Psych for Sore Minds": https://t.co/NyhrUHxWkc——————————————————————— Please check out my Patreon channel for bonus content, newsletters, community, and early, ad-free episodes on www.patreon.com/naamakates ——————————————————————— INCEL is created and produced by Naama Kates for Crawlspace Media. Music by Cyrus Melchor. —————————————————————— If you or someone you know is struggling emotionally, or having a hard time, please call someone, or contact one of the excellent resources provided below. —————————————————————— Suicide Prevention Lifeline w: https://suicidepreventionlifeline.org/ t: 1.800.273.8255—————————————————————— Samaritans Website: https://www.samaritans.org and telephone (UK): 116.123 —————————————————————— Please contact Naama at INCEL with any comments, inquiries, or just random thoughts: e: theincelproject@gmail.com

Today's episode features a young man who'll go by Paul, in his 30s, from England, who's not quite an incel - he lost his virginity at 27 and had a brief relationship of a couple months - but otherwise, he basically is. He thinks that his relationship with his mother might have had something to do with it, a theme that seems to run quietly throughout the incelosphere. "Momma Said" by the Shirelles. 1961. Courtesy of UMG. ——————————————————————— Please check out my Patreon channel for bonus content, newsletters, community, and early, ad-free episodes on www.patreon.com/naamakates ——————————————————————— INCEL is created and produced by Naama Kates for Crawlspace Media. Music by Cyrus Melchor. —————————————————————— If you or someone you know is struggling emotionally, or having a hard time, please call someone, or contact one of the excellent resources provided below. —————————————————————— Suicide Prevention Lifeline w: https://suicidepreventionlifeline.org/ t: 1.800.273.8255—————————————————————— Samaritans Website: https://www.samaritans.org and telephone (UK): 116.123 —————————————————————— Please contact Naama at INCEL with any comments, inquiries, or just random thoughts: e: theincelproject@gmail.com

This week's guest is Jake (@FIat_Stanley), a 23 year-old American incel who doesn't really identify as such; he isn't much of a joiner. He's also abstinent from alcohol and mind-altering substances, and he believes there's a connection. We discuss, and get into a fascinating discussion about ethics, consent, and social engineering. J.I.D. performing "151 Rum" by J.I.D. 2019. Dreamville Records. Check out Jake's YouTube channel, @Jakester897: here. ——————————————————————— Please check out my Patreon channel for bonus content, newsletters, community, and early, ad-free episodes on www.patreon.com/naamakates ——————————————————————— INCEL is created and produced by Naama Kates for Crawlspace Media. Music by Cyrus Melchor. —————————————————————— If you or someone you know is struggling emotionally, or having a hard time, please call someone, or contact one of the excellent resources provided below. —————————————————————— Suicide Prevention Lifeline w: https://suicidepreventionlifeline.org/ t: 1.800.273.8255 —————————————————————— Samaritans Website: https://www.samaritans.org and telephone (UK): 116.123 —————————————————————— Please contact Naama at INCEL with any comments, inquiries, or just random thoughts: e: theincelproject@gmail.com

Today we sit down with Joe Whittaker (@CTProject_JW), an extremism researcher who teaches cybercrime at Swansea University in Wales, to continue our series about the wonderful world of Countering Violent Extremism. We talk about his research on online radicalization and get into the nuts and bolts of some of these "derad" programs everyone's always talking about.——————————————————————— "untitled 07 | levitate" by Kendrick Lamar. 2016. Courtesy of Universal Music Group.——————————————————————— Read Joe's article about online radicalization: https://www.universiteitleiden.nl/binaries/content/assets/customsites/perspectives-on-terrorism/2022/issue-4/whittaker.pdf——————————————————————— Please check out my Patreon channel for bonus content, newsletters, community, and early, ad-free episodes on www.patreon.com/naamakates——————————————————————— INCEL is created and produced by Naama Kates for Crawlspace Media. Music by Cyrus Melchor. —————————————————————— If you or someone you know is struggling emotionally, or having a hard time, please call someone, or contact one of the excellent resources provided below. —————————————————————— Suicide Prevention Lifeline w: https://suicidepreventionlifeline.org/ t: 1.800.273.8255—————————————————————— Samaritans Website: https://www.samaritans.org and telephone (UK): 116.123 —————————————————————— Please contact Naama at INCEL with any comments, inquiries, or just random thoughts: e: theincelproject@gmail.com

Today you're in for another treat with Gio (@giantgio), host of Gio's Content Minded Corner, a fellow podcaster and fantastic artist (and a truecel, according to him, for those of you listeners griping about the excess of normies on the lineup). We discuss inceldom, romance, philosophy, the e-Right, gatekeeping, turning 30, critical theory, wrestling, Law & Order SVU, the gender wars, pay-pigs, and much more. Dig in. "Never Meant" by American Football. 1999. Courtesy of Polyvinyl Records. ——————————————————————— Check out Gio's podcast, Content Minded, at https://www.youtube.com/@GiantArtProductions, and more of his art on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/giantproductions ——————————————————————— Please check out my Patreon channel for bonus content, newsletters, community, and early, ad-free episodes on www.patreon.com/naamakates ——————————————————————— INCEL is created and produced by Naama Kates for Crawlspace Media. Music by Cyrus Melchor. —————————————————————— If you or someone you know is struggling emotionally, or having a hard time, please call someone, or contact one of the excellent resources provided below. —————————————————————— Suicide Prevention Lifeline w: https://suicidepreventionlifeline.org/ t: 1.800.273.8255—————————————————————— Samaritans Website: https://www.samaritans.org and telephone (UK): 116.123 —————————————————————— Please contact Naama at INCEL with any comments, inquiries, or just random thoughts: e: theincelproject@gmail.com

Today's guest is the writer Mary Gaitskill, whose novels and short stories have been adapted into motion pictures and nominated for major literary prizes like the PEN/Faulkner award, the National Book Award, and the National Critics Circle Award, and if you've read any of them, you know why, you know how her characters make you feel seen, for all the cruelty and strength and fragility and beauty and ugliness you possess, how they remain alive within you long after you turn the last page, and change the way you move through the world. We first met when she interviewed me for it, actually, to talk about incels — with whom she feels a kinship for many reasons that we get into today... ———————————————————————"Hallelujah" (cover) performed by Jeff Buckley. 1994. Courtesy of Columbia Records. ——————————————————————— Read Mary's brilliant essays from "Out of It": https://marygaitskill.substack.com/ and listen to our first interview if you missed it: https://marygaitskill.substack.com/p/only-the-lonely ——————————————————————— Please check out my Patreon channel for bonus content, newsletters, community, and early, ad-free episodes on www.patreon.com/naamakates ——————————————————————— INCEL is created and produced by Naama Kates for Crawlspace Media. Music by Cyrus Melchor. —————————————————————— If you or someone you know is struggling emotionally, or having a hard time, please call someone, or contact one of the excellent resources provided below. —————————————————————— Suicide Prevention Lifeline w: https://suicidepreventionlifeline.org/ t: 1.800.273.8255 —————————————————————— Samaritans Website: https://www.samaritans.org and telephone (UK): 116.123 —————————————————————— Please contact Naama at INCEL with any comments, inquiries, or just random thoughts: e: theincelproject@gmail.com

Today's guest , Matt, is also a former incel, who ascended at 23, and is currently married — essentially — with four children, and studying psychology. He also has a YouTube channel, sort of a self-help for incels, called @BlackPillMedicine. It's a tiny channel, in a sea of similarly themed content - self improvement, DIY psychology, red pillers, and the like — but Matt stands apart from this crowd, for a number of reasons, including his comprehensive theory of inceldom as a social disorder. Check out his channel at https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwqK6Px_Vjiha_-wxOEwUAw "Children Will Listen / Finale" from Into the Woods by Stephen Sondheim, cast recording. 2022. Courtesy of Craft Records. ———————————————————————Please check out my Patreon channel for bonus content, newsletters, community, and early, ad-free episodes on www.patreon.com/naamakates ——————————————————————— INCEL is created and produced by Naama Kates for Crawlspace Media. Music by Cyrus Melchor. —————————————————————— If you or someone you know is struggling emotionally, or having a hard time, please call someone, or contact one of the excellent resources provided below. —————————————————————— Suicide Prevention Lifeline w: https://suicidepreventionlifeline.org/ t: 1.800.273.8255 —————————————————————— Samaritans Website: https://www.samaritans.org and telephone (UK): 116.123 —————————————————————— Please contact Naama at INCEL with any comments, inquiries, or just random thoughts: e: theincelproject@gmail.com

Happy New Year, world! Before our first official episode of the year, with Black Pill Medicine, here's a little bonus -- the audio from my chat with Dr. Carolina Hermes of Brazil, that she graciously let me share with you all here. Carolina's YouTube channel is youtube.com/@carohermes, and her Twitter account is @Manosphere101. (The bio is "satire of the Manosphere" and I know some listeners were curious if this would be an anti-incel perspective, but it really wasn't -- very interesting though!) Enjoy! ———————————————————————Please check out my Patreon channel for bonus content, newsletters, community, and early, ad-free episodes on www.patreon.com/naamakates ——————————————————————— INCEL is created and produced by Naama Kates for Crawlspace Media. Music by Cyrus Melchor. —————————————————————— If you or someone you know is struggling emotionally, or having a hard time, please call someone, or contact one of the excellent resources provided below. —————————————————————— Suicide Prevention Lifeline w: https://suicidepreventionlifeline.org/ t: 1.800.273.8255 —————————————————————— Samaritans Website: https://www.samaritans.org and telephone (UK): 116.123 —————————————————————— Please contact Naama at INCEL with any comments, inquiries, or just random thoughts: e: theincelproject@gmail.com

Welcome back to the Clip Show. Today we continue on our journey, commemorating 2022, with four fantastic guests and what we learned from them... There's still one more week of the year, so enjoy, and stay tuned for the final installment of 2022: RECOIL! Merry Christmas from your Faerie Podmother!

Hello world! Today's episode is a bonus, year-in-review medley, as a way to take inventory before heading on into 2023. PodMother loves all her children equally, so we're not going to a "Best Of" list. Instead, this is going to be a clip show, like they do on TV, to recap what we've learned, and check in our lovely guests.Outro: "We Are Born When We Die" by Apollo Sunshine. 2008. Courtesy of Headless Heroes. ——————————————————————— INCEL is created and produced by Naama Kates for Crawlspace Media. Music by Cyrus Melchor. —————————————————————— If you or someone you know is struggling emotionally, or having a hard time, please call someone, or contact one of the excellent resources provided below. —————————————————————— Suicide Prevention Lifeline w: https://suicidepreventionlifeline.org/ t: 1.800.273.8255 —————————————————————— Samaritans Website: https://www.samaritans.org and telephone (UK): 116.123 —————————————————————— Please contact Naama at INCEL with any comments, inquiries, or just random thoughts: e: theincelproject@gmail.com

Today we're going to continue this streak of exceptional interviews and our branching out of the WEIRD world we often inhabit (that's the acronym WEIRD: Western, Educated, Industrialized, Rich and Democratic) with Karun, a currycel living in India. This is a timely interview in part because just last week we had a mind numbingly bad article in GNET (the global network on extremism and technology) titled “Incel Extremism in India: A view from the global south.” I won't be including that link in the notes but you can google. I'm sure you'll all be shocked when I tell you that none of its “insights” are reflected in the conversation you're about to here... Outro: "Take Me Out" by Franz Ferdinand. 2004. Courtesy of Domino Records. ——————————————————————— INCEL is created and produced by Naama Kates for Crawlspace Media. Music by Cyrus Melchor. —————————————————————— If you or someone you know is struggling emotionally, or having a hard time, please call someone, or contact one of the excellent resources provided below. —————————————————————— Suicide Prevention Lifeline w: https://suicidepreventionlifeline.org/ t: 1.800.273.8255 —————————————————————— Samaritans Website: https://www.samaritans.org and telephone (UK): 116.123 —————————————————————— Please contact Naama at INCEL with any comments, inquiries, or just random thoughts: e: theincelproject@gmail.com

Happy Thanksgiving, fellow Yanks! In honor of NatSec November, I decided to continue the discussion about the state of security and intelligence today, and there's absolutely no one know who understands it better than Phil Gurski (@borealissaves), president and CEO of Borealis Threat & Risk consulting, 20 year veteran of CSIS - the canadian security and intelligence service, author of multiple books, and host of the "Canadian Intelligence, Eh" podcast... Listen to Phil on NATO's Deep Dive podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/deep-dive/id1591430137 And check out Phil's podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/canadian-intelligence-eh/id1455756173 and check out the Borealis Threat and Risk national security blog: https://borealisthreatandrisk.com/blog/ Outro: "Burn the Witch" by Radiohead, 2016, c/o XL Records.——————————————————————— INCEL is created and produced by Naama Kates for Crawlspace Media. Music by Cyrus Melchor. —————————————————————— If you or someone you know is struggling emotionally, or having a hard time, please call someone, or contact one of the excellent resources provided below. —————————————————————— Suicide Prevention Lifeline w: https://suicidepreventionlifeline.org/ t: 1.800.273.8255 —————————————————————— Samaritans Website: https://www.samaritans.org and telephone (UK): 116.123 —————————————————————— Please contact Naama at INCEL with any comments, inquiries, or just random thoughts: e: theincelproject@gmail.com

This past Tuesday was Election Day in the United States, so in keeping with the vaguely political climate around here, it's time for a State of the Union episode, if the union here is the global village of experts in countering violent extremism.We haven't had such an episode in quite some time, because I've been rather frustrated with that community's fixation on incels, and I couldn't think of an "incel expert" to have on the show. Instead, today we talk about what terrorism actually is, and what it actually isn't, with Liam Duffy (@LiamSD12). Liam is an advisor to the Counter Extremism Project, a friend, and a great writer, and graciously agreed to come on and talk a little shop and dispel some stubborn myths about how this all works…Read Liam's work for UnHerd at https://unherd.com/author/liam-duffy/Outro: Nobody Speak by DJ Shadow feat. Run the Jewels. 2016. Courtesy of Mass Appeal.——————————————————————— INCEL is created and produced by Naama Kates for Crawlspace Media. Music by Cyrus Melchor. —————————————————————— If you or someone you know is struggling emotionally, or having a hard time, please call someone, or contact one of the excellent resources provided below. —————————————————————— Suicide Prevention Lifeline w: https://suicidepreventionlifeline.org/ t: 1.800.273.8255 —————————————————————— Samaritans Website: https://www.samaritans.org and telephone (UK): 116.123 —————————————————————— Please contact Naama at INCEL with any comments, inquiries, or just random thoughts: e: theincelproject@gmail.com

Today's guest is one you've all been looking forward to, and he does NOT disappoint. In fact, one of the reasons I was inspired to drop this early Halloween episode on y'all was this conversation, which we just recorded a few days ago. Paul is psychotherapist, in his 50s, from England, and our conversation left me rather speechless… so sit down, pour yourself a drink, and have a listen. Happy Halloween. "Wild World" by Cat Stevens. 1970. Courtesy of Island Music. ——————————————————————Today's episode is sponsored by Magic Mind Elixir! Hack your brain by heading over to magicmind.co/incel and using promo code INCEL for a 40% discount on your first subscription to Magic Mind, or 20% off your one-time purchase. —————————————————————— Please check out my all new Patreon for ad-free, uncensored episodes and weekly blogs! https://www.patreon.com/NaamaKates ——————————————————————— INCEL is created and produced by Naama Kates for Crawlspace Media. Music by Cyrus Melchor. —————————————————————— If you or someone you know is struggling emotionally, or having a hard time, please call someone, or contact one of the excellent resources provided below. —————————————————————— Suicide Prevention Lifeline w: https://suicidepreventionlifeline.org/ t: 1.800.273.8255 —————————————————————— Samaritans Website: https://www.samaritans.org and telephone (UK): 116.123 —————————————————————— Please contact Naama at INCEL with any comments, inquiries, or just random thoughts: e: theincelproject@gmail.com

Today's is guest is Helena, a 29 year-old female virgin from Russia. She doesn't describe herself as a femcel, but she'd probably fit the definition according to the standards of many of these piece from trendy women's magazines of late… but Helena is not one to feel sorry for herself, nor to blame men or the world at large for her situation, she's really something of a hopeless romantic, who's been through a lot in her life, including a long-distance crush on an incel... or two... "How Come You Don't Call me" by Alicia Keys. 2001. Courtesy of J Records/Legacy. —————————————————————— Helena's Discord: Darkmare900#8241 ——————————————————————— INCEL is created and produced by Naama Kates for Crawlspace Media. Music by Cyrus Melchor. —————————————————————— If you or someone you know is struggling emotionally, or having a hard time, please call someone, or contact one of the excellent resources provided below. —————————————————————— Suicide Prevention Lifeline w: https://suicidepreventionlifeline.org/ t: 1.800.273.8255 —————————————————————— Samaritans Website: https://www.samaritans.org and telephone (UK): 116.123 —————————————————————— Please contact Naama at INCEL with any comments, inquiries, or just random thoughts: e: theincelproject@gmail.com

Today we have an interview with Donga, a 22 year old black man from Johannesburg, South Africa who identifies as incel. Donga is incredibly wise for his years, and brought a macro sort of perspective on the whole phenomenon that's been sorely needed… and in his perspective, the urbanization of his own country is yielding similar results to John B. Calhoun's “mice utopia” experiments… “Crapa Pelada (Blind Mice)” by Quartetto Cetra. 1945. Atlas Music Group. ————————————————————————————————————————————— INCEL is created and produced by Naama Kates for Crawlspace Media. Music by Cyrus Melchor. —————————————————————— If you or someone you know is struggling emotionally, or having a hard time, please call someone, or contact one of the excellent resources provided below. —————————————————————— Suicide Prevention Lifeline w: https://suicidepreventionlifeline.org/ t: 1.800.273.8255 —————————————————————— Samaritans Website: https://www.samaritans.org and telephone (UK): 116.123 —————————————————————— Please contact Naama at INCEL with any comments, inquiries, or just random thoughts: e: theincelproject@gmail.com

This week was derailed by horrible studies and even worse media coverage on incels, which I'll be getting to in detail next week! But I didn't want to leave you all hanging, so here's a special bonus from Patreon, edited down for Main! —————————————————————— In case you all haven't had enough (and we sure haven't), more on the curious case of Keffals vs. KiwiFarms! Thanks to @default_friend, this discussion goes beyond mere ogling and into important issues like how to distinguish a credible threat from garden variety internet trash talk, and how to establish proper boundaries in parasocial relationships! Dig in. —————————————————————— "Territorial Pissings" by Nirvana. (1991). Courtesy of Geffen Records. ————————————————————————————————————————————— INCEL is created and produced by Naama Kates for Crawlspace Media. Music by Cyrus Melchor. —————————————————————— If you or someone you know is struggling emotionally, or having a hard time, please call someone, or contact one of the excellent resources provided below. —————————————————————— Suicide Prevention Lifeline w: https://suicidepreventionlifeline.org/ t: 1.800.273.8255 —————————————————————— Samaritans Website: https://www.samaritans.org and telephone (UK): 116.123 —————————————————————— Please contact Naama at INCEL with any comments, inquiries, or just random thoughts: e: theincelproject@gmail.com

In case you all haven't had enough (and we sure haven't), more on the curious case of Keffals vs. KiwiFarms! Thanks to @default_friend, this discussion goes beyond mere ogling and into important issues like how to distinguish a credible threat from garden variety internet trash talk, and how to establish proper boundaries in parasocial relationships! Dig in. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Territorial Pissings" by Nirvana. (1991). Courtesy of Geffen Records. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Listen to this episode and many more, and all episodes early and ad-free by becoming a patron! http://www.patreon.com/naamakates

Today's episode is one that I've been looking forward to for a long time, featuring Miss Audrey Brynn (@AudreyBrynn1), a professional domanitrix from London, whose perspective on men, sex, incels, desire, and this podcast is worth its metaphorical weight in gold! She even has a background in criminology, which I didn't know until we spoke… She reached out a few months ago, after having listened to a bunch of episodes, and said she loved the show, and had some clients that were probably incels. She didn't offer to come on as a guest, I asked her — something just told me she'd be amazing… she said she'd think about it. We talked again, a couple weeks later, she agreed, and we set a date!_________________________________________ "This Year's Girl" by Elvis Costello. 1978. Courtesy of Universal Music Group.——————————————————————Check out Miss Audrey's blog on her website at: www.missaudreybrynn.com ____________________________________________________Today's episode is sponsored by Magic Mind Elixir! Hack your brain by heading over to magicmind.co/incel and using promo code INCEL for a 40% discount on your first subscription to Magic Mind, or 20% off your one-time purchase. —————————————————————— Please check out my all new Patreon for ad-free, uncensored episodes and weekly blogs! https://www.patreon.com/NaamaKates ——————————————————————— INCEL is created and produced by Naama Kates for Crawlspace Media. Music by Cyrus Melchor. —————————————————————— If you or someone you know is struggling emotionally, or having a hard time, please call someone, or contact one of the excellent resources provided below. —————————————————————— Suicide Prevention Lifeline w: https://suicidepreventionlifeline.org/ t: 1.800.273.8255 —————————————————————— Samaritans Website: https://www.samaritans.org and telephone (UK): 116.123 —————————————————————— Please contact Naama at INCEL with any comments, inquiries, or just random thoughts: e: theincelproject@gmail.com

Today's episode features an interview with Bottle Blank, an incel-adjacent singleton from the United Kingdom, whose shyness and social difficulties make him feel like a passive actor in his own life, somewhere in the background or at the whim of other people. His experiences with women have been awful and relatable, and we discuss them with great candor in this intimate, old-school return to form. "Use Me" by Bill Withers, 1972. Sussex Records.——————————————————————Today's episode is sponsored by Magic Mind Elixir! Hack your brain by heading over to magicmind.co/incel and using promo code INCEL for a 40% discount on your first subscription to Magic Mind, or 20% off your one-time purchase. —————————————————————— Please check out my all new Patreon for ad-free, uncensored episodes and weekly blogs! https://www.patreon.com/NaamaKates ——————————————————————— INCEL is created and produced by Naama Kates for Crawlspace Media. Music by Cyrus Melchor. —————————————————————— If you or someone you know is struggling emotionally, or having a hard time, please call someone, or contact one of the excellent resources provided below. —————————————————————— Suicide Prevention Lifeline w: https://suicidepreventionlifeline.org/ t: 1.800.273.8255 —————————————————————— Samaritans Website: https://www.samaritans.org and telephone (UK): 116.123 —————————————————————— Please contact Naama at INCEL with any comments, inquiries, or just random thoughts: e: theincelproject@gmail.com

Okay here it is! My solo editorial, behind-the-scenes rambling about making an episode, from start to finish, the thoughts I had while recording, the feedback I got, my opinions about the subject and the guest and the response compared to what I expected. "Dancing with Myself" by Billy Idol. 1981. Hear this episode in its entirety (1 hour, 30 seconds!) by heading over to patreon.com/naamakates and subscribing at the All-Access tier. That's www.patreon.com/naamakates ... Thanks for supporting the show and can't wait to see you there!

Today's chat is another one with my soul sister, Default Friend, with whom podding is always such a pleasure that we're going to start doing it more often. Make it a regular thing. The prompts for today include a piece in Countere, an always interesting digital magazine, about an online support group for people with homicidal ideation. Specifically mass-homicidal ideation - Mass Murderers Anonymous - followed by a response piece, to a response piece about a response to a film review, a meta-criticism (of a criticism of a criticism) of the downtown New York arts scene known as Dimes Square. The art created by the scene has mostly been contained to substacks and podcasts, apparently, which is also fitting. So this is just one more of those to add to the list.  ——————————————————————“I Don't Like Mondays” by Tori Amos, 2001, courtesy of Atlantic Recordings.—————————————————————— Read the Countere article: Mass Murderers Anonymous: https://www.countere.com/home/mass-murderers-anonymous-how-recovery-groups-could-stop-the-next-mass-shooting, Crumps's piece: https://mcrumps.substack.com/p/my-own-dimes-square-fascist-humiliation/ and Default's piece about Crumps's piece:https://defaultfriend.substack.com/p/bad-anthropology—————————————————————— Today's episode is sponsored by Magic Mind Elixir! Hack your brain by heading over to magicmind.co/incel and using promo code INCEL for a 40% discount on your first subscription to Magic Mind, or 20% off your one-time purchase. —————————————————————— Please check out my all new Patreon for ad-free, uncensored episodes and weekly blogs! https://www.patreon.com/NaamaKates ——————————————————————— INCEL is created and produced by Naama Kates for Crawlspace Media. Music by Cyrus Melchor. —————————————————————— If you or someone you know is struggling emotionally, or having a hard time, please call someone, or contact one of the excellent resources provided below. —————————————————————— Suicide Prevention Lifeline w: https://suicidepreventionlifeline.org/ t: 1.800.273.8255 —————————————————————— Samaritans Website: https://www.samaritans.org and telephone (UK): 116.123 —————————————————————— Please contact Naama at INCEL with any comments, inquiries, or just random thoughts: e: theincelproject@gmail.com