Sports Cards Nonsense

Buckle up for a jam-packed, scandal-filled episode of Sports Cards Nonsense as Mike Gioseffi and Jesse Gibson dive into the latest controversies and updates in the hobby. We start with a discussion on the recent security issues and allegations surrounding Probstein. From a massing shilling scandal to a data breech, it only sounds like bad news when it comes to this story. Topps Chrome Basketball dropped this week and Mike has mixed reactions on the prices. We also talk with the management team of The National Sports Collectors Convention about upcoming changes, vendor expansions, and new features like Pokémon TCG. Thanks to Jim Ryan, Joe Drelich and Brian Coppola for joining us! Later, the guys discuss Geoff Wilson's interview with Dr. Beckett and claims that shill bidding isn't self bidding. *Insert your eye rolls here.* We finish with a Mike vs Jesse Arena Club slab battle giveaway. Tune in to see who wins, hear from The National team and get the latest on the hobby scandals. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In today's episode, Mike and Jesse discuss the end of the wax drought and the continued explosion of the grails market, highlighting significant sales and the potential for future investments. Mike and Jesse debate the merits of holding versus selling high-value cards, considering the fluctuating market dynamics. The episode also features a segment on the MLB MVP buyback program, where they analyze the impact of recent pricing changes on card values. They discuss the intricacies of the buyback process and offer insights into maximizing returns on specific card types. Additionally, they engage in a lively discussion about the latest updates from the Topps townhall meeting, including upcoming product releases and strategic shifts in the collectibles market. The episode ends with listener questions in the mailbag segment, offering perspectives on everything from saving spots in line at GameStop to the future of eBay's PWE service, and women's basketball's new leagues. Plus, Tory DCSports87 has an awesome update on their payout rates. Don't forget to vote for SCN for Best Media Platform in the Hobby Awards! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode of Sports Cards Nonsense Mike Gioseffi is joined by Joe Wysmierski as they dive into a variety of hobby topics, starting with a heartfelt moment as they address the absence of Jesse due to a personal loss. The conversation transitions into a lively discussion about the intricacies of selling personal collections, with Mike sharing his experiences and strategies for managing and selling sports cards. The episode also covers the excitement and challenges of the sports card market, including the impact of new releases and the dynamics of card shows. Plus. Joe previews some MASSIVE Pokemon releases and the value in Pokemon cases. Additionally, the guys are joined by Morgan Jon Fox to discuss the Mantle Awards, which Sports Cards Nonsense Media Network is nominated for! Morgan is a judge for the awards (and a SCN listener)! Be sure to vote for us for Media Platform of the Year! Don't make Mike break his TV over us losing... PLEASE! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jesse and Mike are joined by Shep of Shep's Cards to talk about the latest sports card and collectibles news, and drama... Shilling is the talk of the hobby right now, which Mike and Shep weigh in on in detail. Plus, Boston Card Hunter has a juicy scoop the guys discuss. Probstein is breaking off from eBay is there more there than meets the eyes? They also talk about the impact on the hobby of players such as Skeens and Yamamoto, and the shifting dynamics in the football market with non-quarterbacks. Jonathan Taylor and Jaxon Smith-Njigba have booming markets right now and other skill players are following suit. Additionally, the guys reflect on the sentimental value of collecting, encouraging listeners to find joy beyond monetary gains. Remember, this is a hobby after all! The episode concludes with insights into upcoming sports card releases and answering mailbag questions. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jesse Gibson is joined by Alex, AKA Clever Cuban Cards as they dive into the frustrations of trying to snag the 2025 Topps Black and White Baseball release, pointing out how poor communication left many collectors in the dark. The conversation heats up with a debate on shill bidding, where they break down the ethics and impact on the hobby. They also chat about how card shows are evolving, wondering if more polished setups could actually help the hobby grow. Meanwhile, they Jesse and Alex open a Costco Bundle of Panini Donruss Football, which Alex does pretty well on. Before answering mailbag questions, the guys also discuss Panini's future without key licenses and the role of non-licensed products. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Who wants SCN merch? Jesse Gibson and Mike Gioseffi start the show by going off-script with a live contract negotiation for Jesse. Then Adam Ireland, eBay's Vice President and General Manager, Global Collectibles joins the show to talk about all things eBay from sports cards to watches and more. We also dive into what Adam collects including 49ers players and lots of soccer. And, a fan of the show, he knows the guys love a quiz and hosted a round of "Who is the most searched athlete on eBay" guess-off. The guys also make a phone call to the UK before taking a mailbag question on the top NFL rookies this year. It's Jaxson Dart and then everyone else. Plus, which quarterbacks rank top 10 in quarterback ranking this season? Mike tries to guess. Can you do better than he did? Let us know in the comments! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

PSA and eBay have a new partnership. Is it actually good news for the hobby? Jesse Gibson is joined by Alex AKA Clever Cuban Cards for today's episode and they're joined by Doug Plagens, the radio voice of the Florida Panthers who will be joining the Sports Cards Nonsense Media Network with a new hockey podcast, Nonsense on Ice! Doug shares some expert tips on collecting hockey cards and the Young Guns to be keeping an eye on in the hockey world from Jimmy Smnuggeraud to Zane Parekin. They also talk Bedard, McDavid, Gretzky and more. Plus, the guys talk Shoehei Ohtani (yes, again) and whether a dip is coming for his market, as well as Jesse's MASSIVE Disney pull. After having the biggest pull of his career a few months ago, he topped it this past week. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In today's episode of the Sports Cards Nonsense, Mike and Jesse are joined by Professor Sports Cards, a seasoned collector and YouTube personality known for his candid takes on the hobby. The guys discuss the current state of the sports card market, the impact of overprinting, and the allure of vintage autograph rookies, which Professor enjoys collecting. They also debate the value of modern players like Shohei Ohtani and Patrick Mahomes, and explore the dynamics of card breaking and its influence on prices. Mike also shares his latest PC pickup, why community building is essential for successful card breaking businesses and the challenges faced by breakers in maintaining engagement, as well as the Babe Ruth sale that just lost $3 MILLION.Plus, will Ohtani prices come down or is the current market here to stay? The guys answer that question in today's mailbag. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The NBA is back and the first few games have certainly delivered and shaken up the hobby market. Mike Gioseffi and Jesse Gibson are joined by a slew of guests include BCW Tim, Adam Gray, Eddie and Papa Gio to talk about the NBA season and Topps basketball's release. Papa Gio has some mafia intel for us on the bombshell gambling arrests this morning. Tune in for a can't miss episode that talks Luka, Wemby, KD, Steph and so much more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Did Shohei Ohtani just play the best game of any baseball player in the history of Major League Baseball? Mike and Jesse are back with a new episode of Sports Cards Nonsense that keys in on Ohtani's massive sports card market. Drake Maye and Bo Nix continue to have their markets grow, too. The Hobby Handbook's Clever Cuban Cards joins the show via the phone to join the discussion on the Nashville Card Show, which all three of the guys were at over the weekend. Alex spent $20,000 on 1,700 cards at the show! Mike and Jesse had a great time meeting many of you... And some disrespectful children. Plus, they answer mailbag questions on the decrease in collectors but increase in repackers. And, is PSA all-in on repackers? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Mike and Jesse analyze the recent trends in the sports card market, focusing on the rising values of iconic players from legends like Kobe Bryant, and Ken Griffey Jr., to Willie Mays. But they're not the only ones whose market is up. The guys also delve into the factors driving these changes. Today's discussion also covers the impact of modern players such as Patrick Mahomes and the role of investment groups in shaping card values. We also take a look at a cool promotion from Arena Club featuring a $100,000 2003-04 Jordan Exquisite patch auto super grail. Be sure to use code SCN20 on your first Arena Club purchase. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Is the case hit era over? Are there too many case hits? Does the hobby know what THE case hit is? This week's episode covers that and more with JetBreakers' Trent who joined us on his day off from the Air Force. Trent also share his hobby history, how he got into breaking, and who he collects, with Pete Alonso top of the list. "This is a hobby, it shouldn't be stressful," is Trent's take on making the hobby a business for him, albeit not his full time job. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Mike and Jesse delve into the fluctuating values of quarterbacks like Drake Maye, Jayden Daniels and Bo Nix, as well as recent product releases and the strategies for buying, selling, and grading cards. Special guest Tory Hermens from DCSports87 joins to discuss the latest Bowman Chrome price trends, the impact of international prospects on the market, and leads a 'name the price of that card' game. Don't forget to download the dcsports87 app and check out their eBay Live auctions! Plus, we answer mailbag questions on everything from the MLB pitcher market to Aaron Judge's potential market fall, Whatnot repack policies, and more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Mike Gioseffi is joined by Cut the Nonsense's Joe Wysmierski as he fills in for a recovering Jesse. They discuss the rise of quarterbacks Bo Nix and Drake Maye, Jared Goff's long-term value and what to do with Aaron Judge cards this offseason. Then Matt Varao of Card Vault Breaks joins the show, who shares details on the company's expansion plans and unique collector experiences. The episode also examines the debate over licensed versus unlicensed rookie cards, offering a deep dive into market trends and player valuations. Mike and Joe end by answering your mailbag questions on everything from The Big Dumper to Black and White Shimmer Autos, offseason MLB pickups, breaker pricing and more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Mike joins us from vacation and catches us up on his time off. Jesse details a significant Disney card sale, highlighting the excitement and process behind the Walt Disney 1 of 1 transaction. We also cover the latest news on Card Vault's expansion, discussing the implications of new locations in the sports card market. Additionally, we touch on the current state of market competition -- or lack thereof -- and what it means for collectors. Plus, Mike teases some breaking news coming on Thursday's episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jesse and Mike discuss Whatnot's announcement that they'll be regulating the sale of repacks moving forward. Is this good news? Then, the guys sit down with Brian Lee, founder and CEO of Arena Club, to hear about his journey from being a young collector to a successful entrepreneur. They discuss the innovative use of AI in card grading, transparency of digital marketplaces and how he started Arena Club. They also discuss the booming international market, the intricacies of repacks, and Arena Club's 5-year outlook. Beyond the interview, Jesse and Mike discuss SGC being down big month over month and answer listener questions about the ideal schedule for Fanatics releases, the dynamics of card pricing, card show etiquette and the impact of player performance on card values. They also preview their upcoming live shows, including Jesse breaking WWE Finest on Fanatics Friday night. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

With Mike out on the road, Jesse is joined by Alex AKA Clever Cuban Cards to talk about the latest sports card market updates. Grading changes with PSA, expansion into Europe, and Topps' release frequency are all on the docket. PSA's pricing and turnaround times have been a hot topic of conversation over the last week, which Jesse and Alex reflect on. They also discuss the booming market for Pokémon cards, the impact of player likability on card value (Aaron Rodgers), and the challenges of maintaining affordability in the hobby. Be sure to check out Mike's eBay Live tonight with DC Sports 87! And, tune into The Hobby Handbook with Clever Cuban Cards each Thursday. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode of Sports Cards Nonsense, Mike Gioseffi takes the helm as Jesse recovers from an intense 16-hour card-breaking marathon. Mike dives deep into baseball prospects you need to know as a card collector, discussing the latest trends with special guest Aram Leighton from Just Baseball. They talk Bowman Chrome, early MLB Draft thoughts, and highlight standout players. The conversation also touches on the evolving market for pitchers, the MVP race in the American League, and the nostalgia that keeps collectors engaged. Tune in for a mix of expert analysis, personal reflections, and a look ahead at the 2026 baseball rookie class. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

It's a packed week in the hobby. Chris Sewall, the Baseball Card Collector, Investor, Dealer, joins Jesse Gibson and Mike Gioseffi to share stories from the buying side of the business, including his $3,000 purchase of a 3-million card collection that ended up being a money loser, and what lessons he took away from it. He also breaks down the most common types of sellers he encounters and how bulk collections get valued. On the release side, Bowman Chrome is back and after several down years, this year looks loaded. The crew also covers the Disney Topps Chrome drop, featuring autos like Tim Allen and Chris Evans as Buzz Lightyear, and Sully from Monsters Inc. And as always, they dig into the mailbag: Is Topps Finest Basketball overpriced? What's the outlook for ultimate card collecting rooms? And, we'll be breaking with DCSports87 next Monday, which you won't want to miss. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Mike and Jesse are joined by Matt from Slabnomics to talk about Shohei Ohtani's latest accomplishments and why he is the GOAT of the baseball market right now and for the foreseeable future. Plus, there are a ton of big releases coming starting next week, the soccer market is up big, and Bowman Chrome FINALLY has a winner with their latest release. Plus, Matt explains the equilibrium point in sports cards and how that relates to demand for the best players' cards. And don't miss out on Mike's big eBay Live on Friday night with MASSIVE singles starting at $1 - it starts at 7:30 pm ET. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Mike and Jesse are joined by Jason Shepherd of Shep's Cards to discuss the crashing NFL quarterback market after Week 2 of the season. Brock Purdy Joe Burrow, Trevor Lawrence, and Bo Nix are all trending down while it's probably a good time to hold onto Justin Herbert and Jordan Love. Is Mac Jones actually trending up? Probably not. Plus, the guys answer mailbag questions including the best ways to move low-end cards, thoughts on Topps Chrome Baseball MVP buy-backs, which five NBA players would be ideal to start your basketball collection with, and how hard it is (or isn't) to own a local card shop. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

August was a record-breaking month for the sports card hobby, and the guys are here to break it all down. Mike and Jesse are joined by Kristina from Card Ladder to dive into the $416.8M spent online on sports card in August, up from $314M in July, and which athletes fueled the surge. They also cover: Topps Collector Appreciation Day, why collectors are frustrated with card prices, and Card Ladder's August market report and top auction house results. They also play some Trivia with Kristina on the biggest public athlete card sales in August. Plus, thoughts on eBay comps, Fanatics Fest potentially adding another day and answer your mailbag questions. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

NFL Week 1 is in the books, and Jesse Gibson and Mike Gioseffi are here to break down what it means for the hobby. From Aaron Rodgers looking like his 2017 self to Daniel Jones possibly having the best game of his career, the guys sort through which QBs are buys, sells, or completely off the radar (sorry, Cam Ward fans) following Week 1. They also touch on Justin Fields' card market, Fanatics Fest updates, and how Ken Griffey Jr. and Michael Jordan collectors are shaping the hobby as their disposable income grows. Later, Gordy Bonker joins to preview his new podcast, The Gordy Bonker Show, launching next week on the SCN Network. Together, the guys dive into big-picture market trends, including why Willie Mays is still a hold and why Shohei Ohtani might be the only modern baseball player who can keep pace with legends. Be sure to follow Gordy on social and keep an eye out for the first episode of The Gordy Bonker Show, debuting next week! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Mike Gioseffi goes solo on today's episode and covers a wide range of hobby talk. Is it time to go sell crazy due to big market moves across the sports card industry? There's never a reason to sell a $2 prospect auto. But what should you be selling? From buy/sell lessons to a rant on ethics in sports cards, Mike breaks down how sustainable today's wax and breaking scene really is. He also dives into singles and trends, buzz around side hustles at card shows, and why “everything is up.” Plus, why can't there always be a checklist released for a new sports card drop? Speaking of, there are a bunch of new releases dropping, which will be featured in our eBay Live shows. Be sure to check that out! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Mike Gioseffi and Jesse Gibson are joined by Papa Gio to break down their Top 10 NFL quarterbacks of all time, through the lens of sports cards. From refusing to debate Tom Brady to weighing in on Patrick Mahomes, Peyton Manning, and Aaron Rodgers, the guys explain their rankings and look at recent card sales for each QB. They also spotlight the most underrated NFL sports card GOATs, highlighting players whose cardboard still deserves more love. In hobby news, they cover: Why you shouldn't get swayed by recent record-breaking sales MLB prospect chatter featuring Red Sox pitcher Payton Tolle and Mets pitcher Jonah Tong A mailbag on non-quarterbacks who could make a splash this NFL season Plus, a reminder: don't buy what you don't understand. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jesse may be out but we have a jam-packed show today as Mike Gioseffi is joined by Adam Gray (9:43) to discuss his Top 25 Cards of the 2000s list. Not only did experts weigh in on the list, but the community voted, too. Did they agree? Of course not! Mike is then joined by Brian from BWA Cards to preview (44:05) his upcoming live shows on eBay. You're not going to want to miss them! And, we finish with your mailbag questions. Will Fanatics start making Bowman and pro jerseys for the NFL and NBA? With Topps taking over the NBA in October, what does that mean for Panini? Which NBA players need a change of scenery for their sports card markets to bounce back? Are mystery packs worth the money? Will Drake Maye's card market grow? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Mike Gioseffi is joined by Ryan Alford, the host of the new Collectibles on SI Podcast to discuss the record-breaking Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant sports card that EVERYONE is talking about. Plus, we get to know Ryan who is relatively new to the sports cards space, after recently getting back into it. He cannot believe how much money is in the hobby, for starters. What's the value of an SGC 9 vs a Beckett 9 vs a PSA 9. And why is a 9 not a 10?  Plus, Mike answers your questions on the NFL Topps product he's most looking forward to, how to manage card flipping, his favorite cards right now, and the piece of memorabilia he wants most. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Mike Gioseffi and Jesse Gibson are joined by BCW Tim to talk about the Top 10 NBA players of all time and the value of their sports cards. Is the low-end sports card market crashing? Jesse shares how he scored on some Savannah Bananas trading cards. And, we check in on Mike's latest eBay Live auctions. The guys also answer your mailbag questions including about some of the top card releases coming this fall, driving ROI in collectibles, the most popular NFL player today, and the value of Michael Penix Jr. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In what might be a first, we're actually talking about the Toronto Blue Jays. As Mike says, “Vlad Guerrero Jr. is absurdly cheap.” It's time to buy in on the Jays' stars. We also break down our Top 10 picks to start a baseball franchise, debate whether Drew Brees is one of the most overrated quarterbacks ever, and unleash a full-on YouTube rant. Plus, with NFL season around the corner, we rank the Top 10 QB cards right now and dig into the record-breaking basketball sales and wild auctions shaking up the market. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Sports Cards Nonsense is now available on YouTube! In today's episode, Jesse Gibson and Mike Gioseffi preview the 2025 NFL starting quarterbacks and whether it's time to buy, sell or hold on their sports cards and collectibles. Why are JJ McCarthy cards selling for so much money when he hasn't played a snap? Are Jalen Hurts, Josh Allen and Patrick Mahomes about to take a big step backward while Joe Burrow takes another step forward? Plus, the guys talk MLB Awards, who's hot in baseball right now (and who's not), as well as answering mailbag questions! Oh, and did we mention - Straight Cash Homies returns! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Mike and Jesse are back and joined by Jason Shepherd to discuss one of the bigger bad deals that went down recently involving a Tom Brady card. Then, they talk about the news of Topps making new boxing cards for the first time in decades, along with a new trend of testing multiple graders at once. Hosts: Mike Gioseffi and Jesse GibsonGuest: Jason ShepherdProducer: Steve Ahlman Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The guys are back again to talk about new sets, as well as have a fun chat and game with Tory Hermens to guess some over/unders on cards. Then, they get to your crazy mailbag questions. Hosts: Mike Gioseffi and Jesse Gibson Guest: Tory Hermens Producer: Steve Ahlman Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The boys are back home from Chicago and here to discuss the best and the worst of their weekend at the National. They discuss the celebrity meetings, all of the new and exciting exhibitors, and the drama. They finish off with your mailbag questions. Hosts: Mike Gioseffi and Jesse GibsonProducer: Steve Ahlman Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Mike and Jesse are live from Chicago on the show floor of The National with Michel Rubin and Mike Mahan on behalf of Fanatics collectibles to talk about all the news you need to know about the year in collectables. Hosts: Mike Gioseffi and Jesse Gibson Guests: Michel Rubin and Mike Mahan Producer: Steve Ahlman Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The guys are back to talk about the things they are excited to see at the National. They exchange tips and tricks on what you should look out for and do to prepare for one of the biggest hobby shows around. They also have a little talk about ‘The Fantastic Four: First Steps' and a few more movies. Hosts: Mike Gioseffi and Jesse Gibson Producer: Steve Ahlman Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jesse and Mike are here to discuss the major news of Ryan Hoge stepping into an expanded role as president of PSA grading. They discuss what it means for the company and what new directions he is looking to take things. They are then joined by Brian Walders to talk about his ascent in the breaking business and what it takes to start from nothing and make a name for yourself. Hosts: Mike Gioseffi and Jesse GibsonGuests: Ryan Hoge and Brian WaldersProducer: Steve Ahlman Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Mike and Jesse are joined by Cliff Panezich and Steve Grad to discuss a story that has rocked the hobby, a multimillion-dollar forgery scandal that came out last week. Cliff and Steve offer unique perspectives on both sides of the story to help illuminate where the hobby currently is and how a scam of this scale could possibly be achieved. Hosts: Mike Gioseffi and Jesse Gibson Guests: Cliff Panezich and Steve Grad Producer: Steve Ahlman Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Mike and Jesse report from the road to discuss their journey to Indiana and proclaim their excitement for the National, fun card pulls, top-tier road snacks, as well as in-car entertainment. Hosts: Mike Gioseffi and Jesse Gibson Producer: Steve Ahlman Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jason Shepherd joins Mike and Jesse to discuss the latest news in the hobby, including new policies and initiatives for sellers on eBay Live, the ongoing preferences of grading in PSA verses SGC, along with your mailbag questions. Hosts: Mike Gioseffi and Jesse Gibson Guest: Jason Shepherd Producer: Steve Ahlman Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Tim joins Mike and Jessie this week as they discuss the biggest breaks and pulls from the Panini WNBA Rookie Royalty boxes. They also talk about some mid-year grading stats and how that can reflect future market analysis. They also answer your questions about the new Topps Chrome set, movies, and so much more. Hosts: Jessie Gibson and Mike GioseffiGuests: BCW TimSenior Producer: Steve Ahlman Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jesse and Mike stop in for some news regarding the latest on a record-breaking Jordan card sale (08:02). Later, Mike talks about the near-universal appeal of Shohei Ohtani and what makes him a great card investment. They also talk about Aaron Rodgers (21:59) and get to your mailbag questions (25:49). Hosts: Mike Gioseffi and Jesse Gibson Producer: Steve Ahlman Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Mike and Jesse are back to talk about some of the newest news in the world of cards, along with a monster Caitlin Clark auction (04:18). Then, they are joined by Adam Gray to revisit his "25 Most Iconic Cards" list, and the guys reveal some of their personal favorites (14:51). Later, Chris McGill joins to talk about market trends, as well as a little game of "Pokemon vs. Athlete" (43:10). Hosts: Mike Gioseffi and Jesse Gibson Guests: Adam Gray and Chris McGill Producer: Steve Ahlman Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices