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Politicians rely on voters having short memories. They all do it. Politicians and governments get swept out of power, they fester away on the opposition benches, and then a year before the next election, they make sweeping statements and promises about what they'll do if voters have the good sense to put them in. Chris Hipkins is no different from every other party. A lot of people might nod along with his comments and look at the price of butter or the whopping amount on their power bill and think ‘well this lot haven't fixed things the way they said they would, maybe I should vote Labour in 2026.' In the Herald's Front Page podcast, the Labour leader said he wants us to have a look at how MP works, so smaller parties don't call the shots. There should be some concessions and some trade-offs with the other parties to form a government, he says. That doesn't mean you should be doing things you specifically told the electorate before the election that you weren't going to do, Chris Hipkins said. The Treaty Principles Bill, he says, is a good example. The Regulatory Standards Bill. Some of these things no one knew they were voting for at the last election. And now they're being inflicted on them. I don't think that's the spirit of MMP or democracy. And amazingly, a bolt of lightning didn't strike him. Because can I remind the Labour leader, that Labour lost the last election - and absolutely tanked it. After their landslide win in 2020, ministers felt they could implement un-signaled projects and projects that arose because of agitation within their caucus - from Three Waters to a social insurance scheme - and didn't bother taking the public along with them. That was one of the main reasons that Labour tanked it. After their historic win, it was a historic defeat. ‘Bugger it', they thought to themselves. ‘We've got a mandate, we'll do what we like', which is not so very different from allowing minor parties to implement un-signaled projects, is it? A lot of people who voted Labour last time did so because in 2020 National was a complete disaster as a party. A lot of people were very grateful to Labour for getting them through Covid. There were still some people who believed the rhetoric, despite clear evidence that they had no idea how to implement a lot of the more progressive and visionary policies. There was no evidence they could actually implement them, but some people still believed it. But then they came and there were policies that nobody knew existed, even those who had done their homework. Where did this come from? Well, it came from an antsy Māori block within Labours caucus who said,' Well, if you don't do this, we'll go to Te Pati Māori!' and Labour caved. So, I am all for some reform around our electoral system. I think the party that wins the most votes on the night should be obliged to enter into negotiations with the minor parties. And, perhaps more pertinently, the minor parties (looking at you Winston) should be obliged to begin negotiations with the party that wins the most votes on the night. Forget about your petty power politics and your hurt feelings and your personal grievances. That's not what you should be there for. You should be there for the good of the people. So, the party that wins the most votes on the night should have the minor parties knocking on their door, by law. And if they cannot reach any kind of consensus, if they cannot agree on the principles that could help them form a government then by all means, shuffle the deck. Let's see what kind of government you can come up with. I would love to hear before the election from party leaders on who they will work with, which parties they will rule out, and which policies are non-negotiable. And again stressing, I would love to see petty power politics taken out of the equation too. New Zealand voters have said have reaffirmed MMP as the system by which they want to be governed. Incomprehensibly to me, but there we go, we live in a democracy. They've said yes, MMP is the way to go, that's the form of proportional representation we will have. But that doesn't mean that we can't tinker with it, make it better, or reform it. We don't agree on much Chris Hipkins and I, but on that, I do agree. Let's have a look at MMP and see how we can improve it. LISTEN ABOVE See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Labour's leader says Te Pati Māori should focus on the issues most New Zealanders care about. Parliament last week voted to hand down the harshest suspensions in history to three MPs over a haka performed during the Treaty Principles Bill vote. Labour's Willie Jackson and Adrian Rurawhe argued the punishments were too harsh, but also suggested the Party could compromise or say sorry. Chris Hipkins told John MacDonald housing, health, and education are the main things Māori around the country raise with him. He says that Te Pati Māori made their point around the haka, but he thinks people want to see them get back to debating the big issues now. LISTEN ABOVE See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

These past few weeks in politics have seen various issues that we spoke about in our weekly catchup with the National Party. First up, at the Aotearoa Music Awards, National MP Chris Bishop was heard making disdainful remarks such as “what a load of crap” during a performance by singer Stan Walker.  Second, Te Pāti Māori co-leaders Debbie Ngārewa-Packer and Rawiri Waititi were recently suspended from parliament for 21 days for their haka protesting the Treaty Principles Bill. The penalty is far harsher than any previous penalty for an MP, raising questions about whether it is justified or sets a dangerous precedent.  Finally, the government recently announced a new visa for parents of migrants, allowing them to come to New Zealand for a longer period of time than traditional visitors without having to acquire residency. Wire host Castor asked about each of these issues in our weekly catchup with National's Tom Rutherford, starting with Chris Bishop's comments at the AMAs. 

The recommended suspension for Te Pāti Māori MPs, Debbie Ngarewa-Packer, Rawiri Waititi, and Hana Rawhiti Maipi-Clarke, over the MP's haka in Parliament during the first reading of the Treaty Principles Bill last year. Co-leaders Ngarewa-Packer and Waititi will be suspended from the House for 21-days, with Maipi-Clarke facing a seven day suspension. This is Parliament's harshest sanctions in the country's history. Prior to this, the longest suspension an MP had faced in Parliament was three days. The debate had previously been delayed so that the MPs could participate in the Budget debate — however, both co-leaders were not present at the debate. During the debate MP Tākuta Ferris said that the debate was not about the haka, but at the heart, it was the House continuing to ignore Te Tiriti o Waitangi and Māori sovereignty, and that the “racism” in the House is hardly being hidden. For our weekly catch-up, News and Editorial Director and Monday Wire Host, Joel, spoke to Te Pāti Māori's Takutai Kemp about the suspension, and what's next for the party. They also discussed NZ First Party Leader Winston Peters' comments regarding Waititi's moko, referring to the MPs moko kanohi as “scribbles”. He was asked to apologise by the Speaker, which he did. But first, they discussed the suspension of the MPs.

Te Pāti Māori MPs, Debbie Ngarewa-Packer, Rawiri Waititi, and Hana Rāwhiti Maipi-Clarke have been suspended in Parliament. Co-leaders Ngarewa-Packer and Waititi faced a suspension of 21-days, with Maipi-Clarke facing a suspension of seven days, over their haka in Parliament during the first reading of the Treaty Principles Bill last year. News and Editorial Director and Monday Wire Host, Joel, spoke to Margaret Mutu, a Māori Studies Professor at the University of Auckland about the ruling, and what impact this will have on the party heading forward.

Parliament has been debating the proposed punishment for Te Pati Maori MPs who stood in front of ACT MPs and performed a haka in protest of the Treaty Principles Bill during its first reading. The proposed suspension is 21 days for the co-leaders, and 7 days for Hana-Rawhiti Maipi-Clarke. Last month's debate was cut short and delayed when Chris Bishop moved to postpone it until after the Budget. Political reporter Lillian Hanly spoke to Lisa Owen.

Parliament's revisiting potential penalties for three Te Pāti Māori MPs - after the hearing was initially postponed so as not to distract from the 2025 Budget. Proposed suspensions for the three MPs in question are being debated in the House, in relation to their actions during last year's Treaty Principles Bill vote. Political commentator Bryce Edwards has observed there's been plenty of fire from the major political parties - except for Labour. "They're trying to take a sort of middle way and it's hard work for Labour to sort of navigate when the public - or at least Labour's voters - are in favour of some tough measures against the Te Pāti Māori MPs." LISTEN ABOVESee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Tensions are high in the House, as MPs go head-to-head over proposed sanctions for Te Pāti Māori MPs. The Privileges Committee has recommended seven, and 21-day suspensions for three of its MPs - for actions during a haka performed at last year's Treaty Principles Bill vote. NZ Herald political editor Thomas Coughlan unpacks the action from the debate. LISTEN ABOVESee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Parliament's picking up where it left off last month, debating proposed sanctions on three Te Pāti Māori MPs. The Privileges Committee's suggested Rawiri Waititi and Debbie Ngarewa-Packer be suspended for 21 days, and Hana-Rāwhiti Maipi-Clarke for seven. The three had performed a haka during a vote on the Treaty Principles Bill last year. Leader of the House Chris Bishop told Mike Hosking he just wants the debate over and done with. He says we need to deal with the issue, but it's a distraction from the need for economic growth, and he hopes it's dealt with swiftly at Parliament this afternoon. LISTEN ABOVE See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

A stay - for Te Pāti Māori MPs expecting debate on possible suspension today. The Privileges Committee recommended suspensions for Rawiri Waititi, Debbie Ngarewa-Packer and Hana Rawhiti Maipi-Clarke for a protest haka during voting on the contentious Treaty Principles Bill. But 20 minutes after the debate began, Parliament's voted to adjourn it. Newstalk ZB political editor Jason Walls unpacked today's events - and discussed why National wanted the focus off this matter during Budget week. LISTEN ABOVESee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The Leader of the House says postponing the debate on Te Pāti Māori MPs' sanctions is the right thing to do. Debate began today on proposed suspensions for the Te Pāti Māori MPs who did a haka during voting on the now-rejected Treaty Principles Bill. But 20 minutes in, the Government moved to adjourn it - to leave this week free to be all about the Budget. The opposition were blindsided. Chris Bishop says he was under no obligation to tell them. "There'll be many a chance for people to have their say on the appropriate punishment in a couple of weeks. As it stands, the Government is in favour of the report of the Committee." LISTEN ABOVESee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The debate on Te Pāti Māori's proposed punishment has been paused until June - but it's still sparked discussion among some. Debate was set to begin today on proposed suspensions for the Te Pāti Māori MPs who did a haka during voting on the Treaty Principles Bill - before the Government moved to adjourn it. Despite this, former co-leader Te Ururoa Flavell has spoken in defence of Te Pāti Māori. "The bigger kaupapa here is around an ability for Māori to express their views in the Parliament of our land - and allow that to happen on the back of what has happened through history in Parliament." LISTEN ABOVESee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Last week the Privileges Committee proposed suspending Te Pāti Māori's co-leaders for 21 days for their haka during the first reading of the Treaty Principles Bill. Te Pāti Māori president John Tamihere spoke to Ingrid Hipkiss.

Political parties are gearing up for an extraordinary debate on Tuesday over the punishment that should be handed out to Te Pāti Māori MPs over their Treaty Principles Bill haka. Political Reporter Russell Palmer has more.

A former Speaker of the House has been worried Parliament's standards have been slipping over the past few years. It comes as the Privileges Committee report on Te Pati Māori's behaviour during last year's Treaty Principles Bill vote, will be debated and voted on this afternoon. It proposes a 21-day suspension for the party's leaders, and a seven-day suspension for MP Hana-Rawhiti Maipi-Clarke. Former Speaker Sir Lockwood Smith told Mike Hosking a decision to close the public gallery is wise. He says this will be a test for Speaker Gerry Brownlee because his judgement will be critical. Smith says it's up to him to make sure this debate, which will be watched by many, shows Parliament to be a better place than it's been in the last couple of weeks. LISTEN ABOVE See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

A former Speaker believes suggested punishments for three Te Pāti Māori MPs falls short. Parliament's Privileges Committee has recommended suspensions for the three - for their protest haka during voting on the Treaty Principles Bill. Parliament will vote next Tuesday on whether to suspend the co-leaders for 21 days, and MP Hana Rawhiti Maipi-Clarke for seven. David Carter says the haka was 'intimidating' and 'unacceptable'. "And then to refuse to appear before the Privileges Committee - again, it's yet another contempt of the rules of Parliament." LISTEN ABOVESee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Claimants in an urgent Waitangi Tribunal hearing say the ACT Party's Regulatory Standards Bill is a more aggressive and stealthier version of the Treaty Principles Bill. Their lawyers presented evidence to the Tribunal on Wednesday in a tight, online-only, hearing that had to be pushed forward by 3 weeks. Maori news journalist Tuwhenuaroa Natanahira filed this report.

Te Pāti Māori MPs will be temporarily suspended from Parliament for "acting in a manner that could have the effect of intimidating a member of the House" after performing a haka during the first reading of the Treaty Principles Bill. Hana-Rawhiti Maipi-Clarke will be suspended for seven days, while co-leaders Debbie Ngarewa-Packer and Rawiri Waititi will be "severely censured" and suspended for 21 days.

Te Pāti Māori has been granted a stay of execution from the Privileges Committee - at least until tomorrow. Te Pāti Māori was referred to the Privileges Committee following a haka performed during the first reading of the Treaty Principles Bill in November of last year. Newstalk ZB political editor Jason Walls says Committee Chair Judith Collins confirmed the decision on Te Pāti Māori's fate has been delayed until 8:30pm on Wednesday - after the next meeting. LISTEN ABOVESee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

We discuss the failed Treaty Principles Bill and potential for a geopolitical restructuring in the political economy instigated by Trump's tariffs. Where to from here? How can we make the most of the moment?This episode's co-hostsPhilip, Ginny, SimoneTimestamps0:00 Opening 1:41 David Losing the People9:24 Global Discourse of Treaty Principles23:44 Tariffs37:21 Pacific Partnership 50:20 ClosingsIntro/Outro by The Prophet MotiveSupport us here: https://www.patreon.com/1of200

On the Saturday Morning with Jack Tame Full Show Podcast for Saturday 12 April 2025, frontman of Aussie groove-makers the Jungle Giants Sam Hales joins Jack to discuss growing from simple lovers of music to fully fledged artists on the world stage. Jack considers the anti-climactic end to the Treaty Principles Bill. Awards are in the air... Chef Nici Wickes dishes on her top picks from the Outstanding Food Producer Awards and gives her top tips on how best to cook them. Plus, music reviewer Estelle Clifford previews an important night for Kiwi music, the Taite Music Prize, ahead of the awards ceremony on Tuesday. Get the Saturday Morning with Jack Tame Full Show Podcast every Saturday on iHeartRadio, or wherever you get your podcasts. LISTEN ABOVE See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The death knell was sounded for the Treaty Principles Bill at its second - and final - reading this week. All parties except ACT voted against the bill, with 11 votes in favour and 112 against. Newsroom's political editor Laura Walters talks to Susie Ferguson.

In the end it was kind of an anticlimax. After almost 18 months of anger, obfuscation, hīkoi and haka, and hundreds of thousands of submissions, the Treaty Principles Bill was voted down in fairly emphatic style. I suspect the majority of New Zealanders are so over it. Looking back, I'd say David Seymour and ACT largely got what they wanted. Te Pāti Māori were perhaps even greater political beneficiaries. And the whole saga will endure as a bit of a stain on Christopher Luxon's tenure as Prime Minister. It was telling that once again, just as for the first reading, this week's vote was scheduled for a time when the PM wasn't in the house. I think being there and suffering through it would have shown greater leadership. I watched the speeches in Parliament and thought David Seymour was right in his observation. Almost none actually considered the substance of the government's defined Treaty principles. Like most of the debate outside of Parliament, they were all emotion. At times, I think what was supposed to be a constitutional debate was boiled down to pretty a basic and unedifying level: pro-Māori vs anti-Māori! Personally, I tried to engage with the detail of the bill in good faith. I think one of the most underrated qualities in people is a genuine capacity to think critically or even change your mind. It's a curiously strange thing these days to come across someone who doesn't instantly default to their team or side. It seemed to me though that there was a fundamental problem with proposed principles. They didn't accurately reflect what the Treaty actually says. Te Tiriti specifically guarantees Māori tino rangatiratanga. It has, if you like, a Māori-specific carve-out that did not appear in ACT's interpretation. In my view, that absence was absolutely critical. Many of the bill's opponents accused ACT of a cynical approach to the debate. I can't speak for the party's motivations, but I do think the most honest approach would have been to define the principles by what is clearly said in the Treaty, rather than what anyone thinks should be said in the Treaty. And that leads me to my final point: the Treaty is clearly an imperfect document. The English and Māori versions say different things. There is no returning New Zealand to 1840, and in the context of the modern day, it's clunky. I do think David Seymour's broader desire about more purposefully defining the Treaty's application and meaning in modern New Zealand, is a good one (or at least worthy of more consideration). For example, I wonder if 200 years from its signing, New Zealand should aspire towards developing some sort of a written constitution underpinned by the Treaty, that gives it better and clearer effect in the modern World. I think the Te Tiriti o Waitangi / Treaty of Waitangi was meant to unify New Zealand. If we're honest, this debate probably had the opposite effect. But I still have faith that once the dust settles, we can collectively find a way to constructively have these conversations and move Aotearoa forward. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The Prime Minister is defending his absence from Parliament yesterday as the Treaty Settlement Bill was voted down. He said he doesn't regret not being there as he was preoccupied with trade issues. Senior Political Editor Barry Soper talks to Ryan Bridge about the Luxon's absence, Phil Goff's unfiltered comments on Trump, and Winston Peters 80th birthday. LISTEN ABOVE.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The Treaty Principles Bill has been defeated at its second reading. National and New Zealand First voted against the bill, as they indicated they would. Labour, the Greens, and Te Pati Maori also voted against the bill. The only party to vote in favour of the bill was ACT. Political reporter Lillian Hanly spoke to Lisa Owen. 

It's been called a "grubby little bill" and a "valuable" lesson by its opponents in parliament today. In the coming hours, it is expected the future of the controversial Treaty Principles Bill will be decided.  MPs have been engaging in fiery debates during its second reading in Parliament. Political reporter Lillian Hanly spoke to Lisa Owen. 

After months of public protest and coalition infighting, the contentious Treaty Principles Bill has finally reached the end of its road - voted down at a heated second hearing. The Prime Minister said now it is time to move on - but ACT's leader David Seymour is refusing to accept that the fight is over. Deputy political editor Craig McCulloch has more.

The Treaty Principles Bill is now dead but its architect Act Party leader David Seymour is looking to resurrect something similar at the next election. Political reporter Russell Palmer has more.

Act Leader David Seymour doesn't regret spearheading the Treaty Principles Bill. The widely unpopular bill was voted down by all but its own MPs at its second reading yesterday. MPs called it racist, divisive, ugly, grubby, and an assault on history and rights. Seymour told Mike Hosking he's standing up for equal human rights. He says the Crown has an obligation to uphold all people's rights, including Māori, and we are all equal before the law. LISTEN ABOVE See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

On the Mike Hosking Breakfast Full Show Podcast for Friday 11th of April, the Treaty Principles Bill is dead, so where does David Seymour go now? And we need to look at how the US' 145% tariffs on China will impact us. Tim Wilson and Kate Hawkesby discuss whether Mike would be the perfect host of the Chase as four episodes are being filmed in New Zealand. Get the Mike Hosking Breakfast Full Show Podcast every weekday morning on iHeartRadio, or wherever you get your podcasts. LISTEN ABOVE See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

On the Heather du Plessis-Allan Drive Full Show Podcast for Thursdsay, 10 April 2025, the Treaty Principles Bill is dead, but its architect David Seymour is already vowing a referendum might be his bottom line by the next election. China investment expert David Mahon on what New Zealand should do as the trade war between China and US escalates - who will blink first? Labour MP Kieran McAnulty on why he's championing a push for looser liquor laws on public holidays. Plus, it gets fiery on the Huddle as Ali and Jordan clash over making council meetings mandatory for elected councillors. Get the Heather du Plessis-Allan Drive Full Show Podcast every weekday evening on iHeartRadio, or wherever you get your podcasts. LISTEN ABOVESee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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The Treaty Principles Bill is dead, voted down by all parties except ACT - 11 to 112 - before a packed gallery. Fiery moments included Labour's Willie Jackson being kicked out for calling ACT leader David Seymour a liar. The Speaker reminded people multiple times not to clap, sing, or interject during speeches - in which the Bill was labelled 'embarrassing', 'grubby', and a 'stain on our country'. Newstalk ZB senior political correspondent Barry Soper recapped a memorable day in the House. LISTEN ABOVESee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Going, going - almost gone. MPs from all parties other than ACT are shutting down the Treaty Principles Bill today, with passionate displays of rhetoric. It's been called, 'embarrassing', 'grubby', and a 'stain on our country' during the debate. Architect of the failed Bill, David Seymour, says he'd be happy to push for a Treaty referendum in future coalition negotiations. "That is absolutely a possibility, we wouldn't rule that out. But sooner or later, the logic of this bill is going to prevail." LISTEN ABOVESee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Tonight on The Huddle, Ali Jones from Red PR and Jordan Williams from the Taxpayers' Union joined in on a discussion about the following issues of the day - and more! One Gisborne District Councillor has copped some backlash once it was revealed they attended just 41 percent of meetings since October. Should attendance for councillors and MPs be mandatory? After today's big reading - the Treaty Principles Bill is officially dead. Was it worth all the debate and discussion and fuss? LISTEN ABOVESee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Dividing and unifying, the Treaty Principles Bill was defeated in the House today. Former Minister for Treaty Negotiations Chris Finlayson reviews its impact.

The Treaty Principles Bill will have its Second Reading at Parliament Thursday. All parties except the ACT party have said they will vote it down. Political reporter Lillian Hanly spoke to Corin Dann.

The Treaty Principles Bill is all but dead, but the fallout from a protest haka in Parliament has Te Pāti Māori MPs at odds with the Privileges Committee After a haka in Parliament last November, three Te Pāti Māori MPs were referred to the Privileges Committee. They've refused to turn up, igniting a debate about the role of tikanga in Parliament.…Go to this episode on rnz.co.nz for more details

Three Te Pāti Māori MPs, Hana Rāwhiti Maipi-Clarke, Debbie Ngarewa-Packer, and Rawiri Waititi, did not attend the Privileges Committee over their contempt of the House, following their haka in Parliament protesting the Treaty Principles Bill. The party instead are planning on holding their own hearing regarding the matter. Privileges Committee chairwoman Judith Collins, called the no-show “unprecedented” and has given the MPs “one final chance” to attend the hearing. For our weekly catch up, News and Editorial Director and Monday Wire Host, Joel, spoke to Te Pāti Māori's Takutai Kemp about the party's action, and why they are going about the hearing in their own manner. We also spoke about the repeal of Section 7AA of the Oranga Tamariki Act passing its final reading. But first, we discussed the party not attending the Privileges Committee.

Recently, the Justice Select Committee has called for the Treaty Principles Bill to be thrown away. This comes as an analysis by Newsroom shows that 90% of public submissions were against the bill. The committee accepted close to 300,000 public submissions, with 90% opposing the bill, roughly 270,000, 8% in support, and 2% indifferent. News and Editorial Director and Monday Wire Host, Joel, spoke to the spokesperson for Toitu te Tiriti and Professional Teaching Fellow in the Faculty of Law at the University of Auckland, Eru Kapa-Kingi, about these recent developments and how he believes the Hīkoi mō te Tiriti has come into play regarding the public submission protest. They also spoke to Māori Studies Professor at the University of Auckland and Chair of Te Rūnanga-ā-Iwi o Ngāti Kahu, Margaret Mutu, also about these recent developments, and how Te Tiriti o Waitangi is viewed in the country overall.

This week on the Monday Wire: For our weekly catch up, News and Editorial Director and Monday Wire Host, Joel, speaks to Te Pāti Māori's Takutai Kemp about Te Pāti Māori MPs not attending the Select Committee over their contempt of the House due to their haka in Parliament over the Treaty Principles Bill and their plans to hold their own hearing, and the repeal of Section 7AA of the Oranga Tamariki Act passing its final reading. For our weekly catch up Producer Evie spoke to the ACT Party's Simon Court about the justice select committee releasing its report recommending the bill be scrapped, the tariffs imposed on New Zealand trade by the US last week, as well as ACT MP Andrew Hoggard facing criticism over potential conflicts of interest. Evie spoke to Senior Economics Lecturer at the University of Otago, Murat Ungor about the impact of Donald Trump's trade tariffs on Aotearoa and its economy. Joel spoke to the spokesperson for Toitū te Tiriti and Professional Teaching Fellow in the Faculty of Law at the University of Auckland, Eru Kapa-Kingi, and Māori Studies Professor at the University of Auckland and Chair of Te Rūnanga-ā-Iwi o Ngāti Kahu, Margaret Mutu, about the Justice Select Committee calling for the Treaty Principles Bill to be thrown away, with an analysis by Newsroom showing 90% of submissions were against the bill. And Global Innovator, Matt Hart, joins us in studio to discuss non-linear careers. Whakarongo mai!

Christopher Luxon says he has no regrets about the Treaty Principles Bill. Parliament's Justice Committee has recommended the bill not proceed when it returns to the House, after public submissions were overwhelmingly opposed to it. The Prime Minister says it's time for the debate to end. He told Mike Hosking allowing the bill to proceed to committee stage, but refusing to support it any further, is the right approach. LISTEN ABOVE OR WATCH BELOW See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The Treaty Principals Bill is on its way to the gallows as the select committee came back Friday and suggested it wasn't getting its support. It was voted past first reading but it wont get past round two. What I learned out of it was several things. 1) This country is not up for much of a debate around complex or big ideas. We are myopic in our approach. We hate and we love and middle ground is irrelevant. There was a venom and aggressiveness to a lot of submissions. 2) From those who submitted that actually knew what they were talking about, as opposed to merely having an opinion, it very quickly became clear there is massive disagreement over interpretation. These were scholars and lawyers and historians, in other words, "experts". They couldn't agree. That to me was the big clue. If the “learned” can't agree, surely that means we need something, legally speaking, to define what we are dealing with. There is a major case in Christchurch at the moment between Ngai Tahu and the Crown over water rights. It is in the court because there is nothing definitive in law as to what the Treaty does, and doesn't, do. We seem to accept that Parliament is the ultimate court, yet on the Treaty we appear happy to litigate for decade after decade, have a tribunal that is wildly tainted and nothing like a proper court, and each and every time we dabble in this area you and I are picking up the tab. The other outworking of course is the ongoing grief and angst. This is a very divided nation. This is not a harmonious nation with an agreed legal stance around the Treaty. But putting it out to a vote the way Act wanted was a mistake It's too important for that. Pik N Mix democracy never works. The other thing I learned politically is it should never have seen the light of day if it wasn't going all the way. This goes to the Chris Luxon negotiation skills. It should have been either dead before it started, or it got the full treatment. What we got was a half-baked, deeply divided mess that ended up achieving nothing. Even those who argue it started the debate are wrong. Because if it's floated for another day we won't carry on where we left off. We will have to start all over again.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Global markets plunge in reaction to President Trump's tariffs, South Korea's court upholds President Yoon's impeachment, The EU and Central Asian nations deepen ties in their first-ever summit, An Israeli strike kills a Hamas commander in Lebanon, A New Zealand committee rejects the Treaty Principles Bill, President Trump claims Iran wants direct talks amid mounting tensions, Donald Trump fires high-level national security officials, The Pentagon launches an investigation into Pete Hegseth's Signal use, A US tourist is arrested for visiting an isolated tribe in the in the Andaman Islands, and Africa's first AI global summit kicks off in Rwanda. Sources: www.verity.news

After 300,000 submissions, tens of thousands of feet on the road in one of the biggest hikoi this country has ever seen - and tens of thousands of tax-payer dollars spent on the debate, the Parliament's Justice Committee has recommended that ACT's Treaty Principles Bill not proceed. ACT campaigned on holding a public vote to scrap the principles that have been established through the courts - such as partnership - and codifying in law a new interpretation focused on what it says is "all New Zealanders being "equal under the law". The Justice Committee revealed that 90 percent of submissions were opposed, 8 percent supported the bill and and 2 percent were unsure. Massey Professor of Politics Richard Shaw speaks to Mihi.

On the Heather du Plessis-Allan Drive Full Show Podcast for Monday, 4 April 2025, human error and incompetence were the main issues that led to the Manawanui's sinking. And the Defence Minister makes a shocking revelation in her interview with Ryan Bridge. The Treaty Principles Bill has been given the thumbs down by Parliament's Select Committee. Ryan asks chair James Meager whether it was all a waste of time and money. ASB's Nick Tuffley explains what Trump's tariffs mean for your mortgage. Plus, the Sports Huddle debates Red Bull's claim they were protecting Liam Lawson's mental health by dropping him, and why are four of the six top Super Rugby teams from Australia? Get the Heather du Plessis-Allan Drive Full Show Podcast every weekday evening on iHeartRadio, or wherever you get your podcasts.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Three MPs from Te Pati Maori say they will refuse to attend a hearing with Parliament's Privileges Committee tomorrow because their - quote fundamental rights - are being ignored. Party co-leaders Rawiri Waititi and Debbie Ngarewa-Packer plus Hana-Rawhiti Maipi-Clarke were summoned to face the committee over their peformance of a haka at the first reading of the Treaty Principles Bill last year. Maori News Journalist Tuwhenuaroa Natanahira spoke to Lisa Owen.

Labour's Peeni Henare has apologised for leaving his seat to perform a haka during the Treaty Principles Bill's debate - but he stands by performing it, and says he would do it again.

From a substantial cabinet reshuffle, the start of oral submissions on the Treaty Principles bill, and lately, talk of privatisation - there's lots happening in politics.