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In the end it was kind of an anticlimax. After almost 18 months of anger, obfuscation, hīkoi and haka, and hundreds of thousands of submissions, the Treaty Principles Bill was voted down in fairly emphatic style. I suspect the majority of New Zealanders are so over it. Looking back, I'd say David Seymour and ACT largely got what they wanted. Te Pāti Māori were perhaps even greater political beneficiaries. And the whole saga will endure as a bit of a stain on Christopher Luxon's tenure as Prime Minister. It was telling that once again, just as for the first reading, this week's vote was scheduled for a time when the PM wasn't in the house. I think being there and suffering through it would have shown greater leadership. I watched the speeches in Parliament and thought David Seymour was right in his observation. Almost none actually considered the substance of the government's defined Treaty principles. Like most of the debate outside of Parliament, they were all emotion. At times, I think what was supposed to be a constitutional debate was boiled down to pretty a basic and unedifying level: pro-Māori vs anti-Māori! Personally, I tried to engage with the detail of the bill in good faith. I think one of the most underrated qualities in people is a genuine capacity to think critically or even change your mind. It's a curiously strange thing these days to come across someone who doesn't instantly default to their team or side. It seemed to me though that there was a fundamental problem with proposed principles. They didn't accurately reflect what the Treaty actually says. Te Tiriti specifically guarantees Māori tino rangatiratanga. It has, if you like, a Māori-specific carve-out that did not appear in ACT's interpretation. In my view, that absence was absolutely critical. Many of the bill's opponents accused ACT of a cynical approach to the debate. I can't speak for the party's motivations, but I do think the most honest approach would have been to define the principles by what is clearly said in the Treaty, rather than what anyone thinks should be said in the Treaty. And that leads me to my final point: the Treaty is clearly an imperfect document. The English and Māori versions say different things. There is no returning New Zealand to 1840, and in the context of the modern day, it's clunky. I do think David Seymour's broader desire about more purposefully defining the Treaty's application and meaning in modern New Zealand, is a good one (or at least worthy of more consideration). For example, I wonder if 200 years from its signing, New Zealand should aspire towards developing some sort of a written constitution underpinned by the Treaty, that gives it better and clearer effect in the modern World. I think the Te Tiriti o Waitangi / Treaty of Waitangi was meant to unify New Zealand. If we're honest, this debate probably had the opposite effect. But I still have faith that once the dust settles, we can collectively find a way to constructively have these conversations and move Aotearoa forward. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
The Treaty Principles Bill is history. Done and dusted. But ACT leader David Seymour, who came up with the bill in the first place, has no regrets. And it's not done and dusted, as far as he's concerned. He could bring it back again. But I think what he's most likely to do is make it a campaign issue in next year's general election, or try to get a more explicit equality provision in the Bill of Rights Act. All he's saying is: “I accepted that they've decided on this particular bill at this point in time.” Going on to say: “watch this space”. But whatever happens in the future, the questions at this point are: was the whole thing worth it? And did we learn anything? I tell you what I've learned – although, it's probably something that I knew anyway. But what I've taken away from all this is that, wherever we are on the political spectrum, we are not as open to new ideas as much as we might like to think so. The Treaty Principles Bill got those on the left extremely agitated and excited. Just like 3 Waters got those on the right extremely agitated and excited. I was against it because I think any agreement shouldn't be tinkered with – especially when you get Parliament poking its nose in and tinkering with it. And that's what the Treaty is. It's an agreement. The real problem is how the Treaty has been interpreted and used. For example: I'm against the Treaty being used to influence criminal sentences. I'm against the Treaty being used as a reason not to hire the best person for the job. But that's not the Treaty's fault. That's the fault of the institutions and the organisations and the individuals who have enabled that to happen. Because let's say the Treaty Principles Bill hadn't been binned yesterday and it went through all the stages and ended up being law, do you really think it would have made things any better or any different? Because the idea behind it —as David Seymour is still saying today— was to ensure everyone is treated equally. But what does “treated equally” mean? I bet we've all got different ideas of what that is. For example, if the Treaty principles were changed in the way David Seymour wants them to be, what's to stop a judge (for example) seeing this so-called “equal treatment” being a licence to give a lighter sentence to someone from a disadvantaged background? So for me, the focus needs to be much more on how the treaty principles are applied, not the principles themselves. As to whether it's been worth the effort and whether it's been a waste of time – at this point, I think it has been a huge waste of time, energy, and money. But it won't have been a waste if we do learn from this and realise that it's not the Treaty itself but the way that it's applied that's the real issue. If we're big enough —even those of us who opposed David Seymour's bill— to see that we have learned something out of the process, then it won't have been a waste. But as I say, this whole thing has shown me again how incapable we are —as a country— of having the so-called “grown up conversations” David Seymour thinks we should be having. And if we can't get beyond that, then there's no doubt this whole thing has been a complete waste of time. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Act Leader David Seymour doesn't regret spearheading the Treaty Principles Bill. The widely unpopular bill was voted down by all but its own MPs at its second reading yesterday. MPs called it racist, divisive, ugly, grubby, and an assault on history and rights. Seymour told Mike Hosking he's standing up for equal human rights. He says the Crown has an obligation to uphold all people's rights, including Māori, and we are all equal before the law. LISTEN ABOVE See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
The draft secondary school English curriculum is ringing alarm bells for some teachers. The document contains no reference to Te Mataiaho - the framework that underpins every other curriculum area.Teachers say that's bizarre and they are worried it is part of a move push the Treaty of Waitangi out of schools. Education correspondent John Gerritsen spoke to Lisa Owen.
Honouring the Treaty of Waitangi
Gregor Paul's story in this morning's Herald confirms what many suspected at the time: that TJ Perenara's political statement before the haka, a rallying cry against the Treaty Principles Bill, had not been sanctioned by rugby officials. That many All Blacks, that many coaching staff, that many management, felt blindsided by the statement and that he spoke without the universal approval of his teammates, according to Gregor Paul's story. Perenara was playing his 89th and his final test for the All Blacks in Turin last year, and before the privilege of leading the All Blacks Haka for the final time, he gave a mihi speaking for the land, the strength of independence and the Treaty. Not the most strident political message, but a political message nonetheless. And I have absolutely no problem with people having an opinion on the Treaty Principles Bill —a strong opinion— provided the opinion is sound and nuanced and not filled with hateful, abusive language. You have your opinion for and against it – absolutely fine. But I do think that TJ Perenara abused his position and abused the trust put in him by his teammates. You cannot lead a team haka if you don't speak for your team. If TJ had been representing New Zealand as an individual, fine. If he gave his opinion on the bill in a post-match interview, fine. But it's a shame that he put his teammates in a position of defending a political stance of his own. They might all agree with him, they might have fully supported his decision in the wording of the mihi, but he never gave them the chance to do so, according to Gregor Paul's story. And if you cannot have a full, honest, open discussion about the Treaty Principles Bill with the band of brothers that is the All Blacks, what hope does the rest of the country bloody have? I think it's because if you support David Seymour's bill you run the risk of being called a racist. For the record, I don't support. I made a submission against it, but that doesn't mean I support the hijacking of the haka either. Although I'm not sure in this day and age the coalition of the perpetually aggrieved allows you to have a nuanced viewpoint. You can't have a ‘oh well, I think this, but I understand where you're coming from, but that's okay'. You just can't do that in this day and age among a certain group of people. Discussions quickly become partisan and reductive. Social media has become so binary – you're either for us or you're against us. The only thing that cohort seems to agree can be nonbinary and fluid is gender. Everything else you have to be one thing or the other, except for your gender. You certainly can't have fluid or nuanced discussions on race or Trump or Gaza or the Treaty Principles Bill. It's a shame. Perenara is passionate and committed and articulate but clearly on certain subject he feels his way is the only way. And isn't that the problem with the world right now? See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
The events that lead to the Treaty of Waitangi and it's legacy.
Oral hearings for the treaty principles bill get underway today, marking the start of 80 hours worth of hearings over the course of a month. Author of the bill and Act party leader David Seymour will be the first to give his submission later this morning. A total of 50 oral submissions will be heard on day one. Managing Director of Te Kōhao Health Lady Tureiti Moxon says she thinks the bill should be rejected and opposed by the select committee. LISTEN ABOVESee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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David Seymour's controversial Treaty Principles Bill has faced a fair bit of opposition since its introduction. The ACT Leader says it comes from two main camps, and in his opinion, it reinforces the need for a debate around the Treaty of Waitangi and its application. He told Tim Beveridge that the debate has shifted to the point where it's not about race or the Treaty, but rather about whether New Zealand is a society that gives respect and dignity to each person, or whether it's some “backwards-looking tribal place” where people have to say their race before their ideas are heard. Seymour believes the presentation of the bill by the media is “pretty hopeless”. He says there was one interview on TV1 where they gave more time to the protestors that interrupted his interview, than they did him. “It's pretty difficult not to despair with the standards of media coverage.” LISTEN ABOVE See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
David Seymour says he's anticipating a high volume of submissions on his Treaty Principles Bill, closing at midnight tonight. The bill passed its first reading last year, and is set to go through the Select Committee process. National and New Zealand First have promised to vote it down. The Act leader says he's been told 15,000 submissions were received within the first 10 days. LISTEN ABOVESee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
This 2014 episode covers the Treaty of Waitangi, a treaty between the British and the Maori that established New Zealand as a nation. The goal was to benefit both parties, but a hurried translation of the document led to some confusion.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Last week New Zealand parliament went viral when MP Hana-Rawhiti Maipi-Clarke performed a haka and tore up a controversial bill. And this week tens of thousands of New Zealanders marched in protest, opposing the bill. At the heart of the debate is the Treaty of Waitangi and a bill that seeks to reinterpret it, with some fearing it will dilute Maori rights. Guest: Taiha Molyneux, Māori News Editor Radio New Zealand RECOMMENDATIONS: Hamish - Rear Vision episode on the Treaty of Waitangi and the podcast The Last Voyage of the Rainbow WarriorGeraldine - Fateful mix: Great powers, strongman leaders and manifest destinies, essay by Michael Wesley in Australian Foreign AffairsGET IN TOUCH: We'd love to hear from you! Email us at global.roaming@abc.net.au
Pip Adams makes some personal recommendations around books and writing that she found useful when formulating her thoughts around the debate around the bill.
Former Treaty Negotiations Minister Chris Finlayson told Ryan Bridge that David Seymour has to realise this was never going to a civil debate due to the emotions involved. “The debate takes place against the backdrop of what I perceive to be hostile acts towards tangata whenua over the last year in terms of names and treaty principles… it's a culmination of a number of things.” He said he might not have gone into government with the bill on the table if he was still in office. Finlayson said he was “appalled” by the behaviour in Parliament from all sides. “You don't act that way in Parliament”. The former National MP also believes the party has moved away from its “conservative values”. Finlayson said he has had Māori approach him in public confused about who to vote for now as National no longer represents their values. LISTEN ABOVE See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
ACT leader David Seymour told Newstalk ZB's Mike Hosking that he refuted claims that the bill was dead post the first reading. He said the other parties see “that this far more constructive than anything they have seen before”. “I think it's very clear that more and more people see that this is an initiative that promotes equal rights.” He reiterated that Prime Minister Christopher Luxon had not taken him up on his multiple offers to “join the wagon”. “I think the National party is afraid of taking on hard issues.” Seymour said that this Bill is about giving “everyone a fair chance in life”. “Ultimately we are democratising the treaty... we are saying anyone gets a say in our constitutional future. “There has become this idea that the treaty is a partnership so therefore everything becomes about your identity and which side of the partnership you are on. “Until we remove the underlying idea that our treaty is a partnership between races and we each have a different role in our society based on our background those policies will all be back in the stroke of a pen.” He said Bill has produced a “difficult debate” on whether the Treaty allows people to have equal rights or provides a partnership based on identity. “If I am completely wrong and it never gets past the first reading, all that happens is that we produce the idea that each New Zealander has the right to have a say about their constitutional future. “My ultimate challenge to those who oppose this bill… where in the world has divided people up based on this background been a success?” LISTEN ABOVE See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Labour's questioning the Government's decision to bring forward the introduction of the Treaty Principles Bill. The bill was introduced to the House yesterday ahead of its first reading next week. If adopted, it would set treaty principles into law to be used when interpreting legislation. Labour's Justice Spokesperson, Duncan Webb, told Ryan Bridge that introducing the bill 11 days earlier than expected appears to have been a strategic move. Webb says introducing it during US election week has helped keep it on the "low down". LISTEN ABOVE See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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David Seymour is looking forward to discussing his Treaty Principles Bill with a Ngati Toa leader tonight. Helmut Modlik will debate Seymour two months after Modlik called him out. A draft of Seymour's Bill will be ready for public release and discussion next month, but National says it will support the bill only to its first reading. The ACT leader told Mike Hosking the debate is needed, because people think others can't have an opinion on something they're not an expert on. He says New Zealand needs to mature and let ordinary people have an opinion on the country's constitutional future. LISTEN ABOVE See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
On the Early Edition with Ryan Bridge Full Show Podcast for Tuesday 8th of October, Ngati Toa's Helmut Modlik is set to face David Seymour in a much anticipated debate on the Treaty of Waitangi. Modlik speaks to Ryan ahead of the debate. A mixed bag in Westpac's Regional Roundup, but things are looking good heading towards the New Year and Wednesday's OCR decision. Westpac Senior Economist Satish Ranchhod joins the show. TVNZ has proposed closing the 1News website from early next year as the state broadcaster tries to find $30 million in savings. Media Commentator and Spinoff Founder Duncan Grieve speaks to Ryan. Get the Early Edition with Ryan Bridge Full Show Podcast every weekday on iHeartRadio, or wherever you get your podcasts. LISTEN ABOVE See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
The chief executive of Ngati Toa agrees a robust debate is needed on the Treaty of Waitangi. Helmut Modlik will debate ACT leader David Seymour tonight, two months after Modlik called him out. A draft of Seymour's Treaty Principles Bill will be ready for public release and discussion next month, but National says it will support the bill no further than the first reading only. Modlik told Ryan Bridge the country needs a national conversation about the treaty, which is why he agreed to debate Seymour. He says the country was only getting curated sound bite versions of one position. LISTEN ABOVE See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
It will be compulsory for all first year Auckland University students to complete a new course covering the Treaty of Waitangi and place-based knowledge from next year. The university said Waipapa Taumata Rau is part of a curriculum overhaul and employers are demanding that students are knowledgeable in the Treaty, New Zealand history and te ao Maori. The course takes the place of previous general education papers. The ACT party said the plan could damage Auckland University's reputation, especially among foreign fee paying students, describing the course as a form of indoctrination. Pro vice chancellor Maori, Te Kawehau Hoskins spoke to Lisa Owen.
The troubled Treaty Principles Bill would appear to have virtually zero chance of survival. David Seymour says Cabinet discussed the Bill yesterday and made a few tweaks. Former Treaty Negotiations Minister Chris Finlayson told Mike Hosking he thinks the bill will die a natural death. Asked whether it's possible Seymour could persuade people, he simply responded, "get a life". Prime Minister Christopher Luxon has repeated this morning National MPs won't support the bill past the first reading. LISTEN ABOVE See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
The Government wants to override a Court of Appeal decision over Māori claims to coastlines. The Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations Minister has announced plans to tighten restrictions, requiring iwi seeking Customary Marine Titles to prove they've had continuous exclusive use and ownership of the area since 1840. Paul Goldsmith told Mike Hosking a 2023 court ruling went too far in weakening the eligibility test, and now they're having to tidy it up. He says while it is unusual for the Government to override the courts, a high threshold must be reinstated. LISTEN ABOVE See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Pharmac director Dr Anthony Jordan has announced he's resigning from the board over the Government's Treaty of Waitangi directive. Associate Health Minister David Seymour told the drug buying agency earlier this week it was inappropriate for them to keep considering the Treaty's place in the health sector. Newstalk ZB Political Editor Jason Walls says Jordan was due to end his tenure in December, but board chair Paula Bennett says he will now leave effective immediately. LISTEN ABOVESee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
David Seymour is outlining a new direction for Pharmac. The Acting Prime Minister and Associate Health Minister told Mike Hosking he'll be outlining new expectations for the Government's drug-funding agency this afternoon. He's eager to see Pharmac take a more holistic view on how it can save taxpayers' money, with fewer hospital admissions, more people working, and fewer people on benefits. He says the Treaty of Waitangi shouldn't affect something as technical and tangible as which drugs to buy. LISTEN ABOVE See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
If the success of a new book is anything to go by, New Zealanders are keen to gain a greater understanding of Te Tiriti, The Treaty of Waitangi. The book was released earlier this year by Roimata Smail, she speaks to Jesse.
Paul Diamond reviews Treaty Law: Principles of the Treaty of Waitangi in Law and Practice by Kevin Hille, Carwyn Jones and Damen Ward, published by Thomson Reuters.
David Seymour: The Treaty of Waitangi has been misinterpreted!! David Seymour is a New Zealand politician. He is the leader of ACT New Zealand and soon to be Deputy Prime Minister of New Zealand. HIs party, ACT, formed part of the current coalition government in New Zealand, along with National Party and New Zealand First. David sat down with me for the second time to talk about the changes currently taking place in New Zealand, his new role in government, why he is so passionate about the Treaty of Waitangi, and what he sees for the future of NZ.Please share this episode with your loved ones.Check out ACT Party here - https://www.act.org.nzLearn more about David here - https://www.act.org.nz/david-seymour/Connect with David here - https://www.act.org.nz/david_seymour_contact----Click here to Become a VIP supporter of Lead On Purpose: https://www.buzzsprout.com/1583287/supportIf you would like to help James continue to bring on world-class guests, please consider making a small recurring donation to cover the back end, admin and editing costs. For many years, James has dedicated countless hours to the show and would LOVE to continue bringing you global thought leaders.Thank you for your support. It is greatly appreciated.With much gratitude.Full Transcript, Quote Cards, and a Show Summary are available here:https://www.jjlaughlin.com/blog-----Website: https://www.jjlaughlin.comYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6GETJbxpgulYcYc6QAKLHAFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/JamesLaughlinOfficialInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/jameslaughlinofficial/Apple Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/nz/podcast/life-on-purpose-with-james-laughlin/id1547874035Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3WBElxcvhCHtJWBac3nOlF?si=hotcGzHVRACeAx4GvybVOQLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jameslaughlincoaching/James Laughlin is a High-Performance Leadership Coach, Former 7-Time World Champion, Host of the Lead On Purpose Podcast and an Executive Coach to high performers and leaders. James is based in Christchurch, New Zealand.Support the Show.
A new temporary display of the Treaty of Waitangi at Te Papa which replaces the defaced version is already attracting critics. It opened today at Te Papa after the previous one was spraypainted and attacked with an angle grinder in December as part of a protest action. Pretoria Gordon reports.
Last week I said that I think Act are onto something. It was referencing the angst we saw at Waitangi and how those who gather at such places and those who cover such places have no real connection to middle New Zealand and the real world. What Act are trying to do with the Treaty is have a conversation. They argue that the intent was we are all equal and you don't get excluded because of race and you don't get special treatment because of race. That has been turned by those who fear all this into a shambles of a campaign where it is claimed that the Treaty is being destroyed, or rewritten, or Maori rights are being stripped. This is not the first time some good, old fashioned open debate has been skewed and screwed into a partisan mess Then there were the numbers. The Curia poll out over the weekend tells you where middle New Zealand is. Parties at this stage of the political cycle don't rise or fall the way Act have without something tangible happening. For this poll, what has happened is a growing number of New Zealanders have tuned into what Act are trying to do and have decided they are on board. They have waded through the noise and the BS and they have worked out that quite a lot of us actually like the idea that we should all be treated equally. It's also why the Greens have tanked. When a leader quits and a member is in court, that tends to see support drift. The downside for Act and their campaign is twofold. They are battling the large party in the coalition and that large party also went up in the poll. That is as a result of a growing number seeing the Government move and re-introduce a series of practical sensible decisions and laws so many have been crying out for, for years. The fuel tax and light rail and cultural reports, these decisions have come thick and fast and middle New Zealand likes that stuff. Big picture, the Government are enjoying some fruits of a busy 100 days. Act are on the right side of the big race debate and it lends weight to Seymour's argument that by the time they write the draft bill, get it in front of a committee and let us have a say, it might just well turn out that we have a groundswell of support National can't afford to ignore.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
I was wondering how long it would take, given what we have seen this week at Waitangi. ACT have launched a campaign to outline some facts on their Treaty Principles Bill. They have done this because, like most of these sort of debates, what you start out with by way of an idea very quickly turns into something else, due largely to those who oppose it and start to spread the misinformation. The Treaty Principles Bill has turned into, if you listen to those who don't want it, a law to rewrite the Treaty, trash the Treaty, change the Treaty, strip rights away from Māori and so it goes. The original idea was a referendum. We listen, we debate, we vote. What is being pointed out in this campaign is that what we started with i.e. the same rights and duties for all New Zealanders, has been over the past few decades twisted into a series of ideas, not to mention laws, that somehow leaves us with a system whereby Māori, because they are Māori, get things non-Māori don't. That, in simple terms, is not what was signed up to. The Māori Health Authority, and its future for example, will be part of a Waitangi Tribunal case. Firstly, the tribunal has no teeth, and they don't make law. Secondly, the Māori Health Authority is, comparatively speaking, brand new and is a good example of what ACT argue. The Treaty wanted all New Zealanders to have equal access to healthcare, and we do. Healthcare does not discriminate on race. But a Māori Health Authority is a race-based organisation. The interpretation of the Treaty has become an industry. The simplicity of a 200-year-old document has turned into an exercise in minutiae, with outworkings that may or may not have anything to do with the original intention. And that is all ACT want to do - debate it, not rewrite it. You could argue that if this goes nowhere it's a lot of energy for nothing, especially given the state the country is in elsewhere. But as the Curia poll showed, 60% of us broadly like the idea. I think ACT are onto something. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Joel shares some thoughts on the Treaty of Waitangi and how we can journey in our current Aotearoa New Zealand context as followers of Jesus. What does it mean to be the people of God in the midst of the current discussions and debates around the Treaty?
Hundreds of protesters have arrived as part of a hikoi at Te Tii Marae. The march has travelled 200km over five days, leaving Cape Reinga on Friday. Senior Political Reporter Sophie Trigger is at Waitangi. LISTEN ABOVESee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Finance Minister Nicola Willis is stressing the importance of open discussion on the evening before Waitangi Day. The Government is facing anger and concern over the proposed Treaty Principles Bill, with David Seymour and Winston Peters being heckled during today's speeches. Nicola Willis says the gathering in Waitangi left room for a range of approaches- but most people have been peaceful. "There has been an attempt to understand each other, to listen, and to find those areas where we can make good progress. Over the past few days, I and other ministers have had hui with iwi, with a number of Māori entities." LISTEN ABOVE See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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In this episode of Half-Arsed History, hear all about the Treaty of Waitangi - how and why it was written, translated, and signed, as well as the many important consequences it had for Aotearoa New Zealand. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
There's growing fear and anger from Māori over moves by the coalition government to revisit the rules around the Treaty of Waitangi.
Tonight on The Huddle, Neale Jones from Capital and Trish Sherson from Sherson Willis PR joined in on a discussion about the following issues of the day- and more! James Shaw stepped down as co-leader of the Green Party. Was this expected? What will Shaw's legacy be? The Government changes their minds on the status of the country's UNRWA funding, with contributions pausing until Foreign Minister Winston Peters approves. What inspired this rethink? Is this the right decision? Chris Luxon and David Seymour are at odds over the Treaty, with Luxon now saying the Treaty is akin to a partnership - exactly what Seymour doesn't think. Was it a good move for Luxon to take a stand? LISTEN ABOVE See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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David Seymour is remaining defiant in the face of a lack of enthusiasm for his treaty plans from his boss. The Prime Minister is making it clear that National has no interest in meddling with the Treaty of Waitangi. Christopher Luxon's party has promised to support ACT's proposed bill on treaty principles to first reading, but no further. But Seymour told Tim Dower that public opinion might sway them. He says it may be more popular than National and New Zealand First think, and their support could continue further than just to select committee stage. LISTEN ABOVE See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
National is again pouring cold water on ACT's Treaty Principles bill. ACT Leader David Seymour plans to introduce a bill to redefine the Treaty of Waitangi by May. National will support the bill to the Select Committee stage, but no further. Māori Development Minister Tama Potaka told Tim Dower that they aren't interested in rewriting the Treaty. He says the Treaty stands as it is, and is important for the past, present, and future. LISTEN ABOVE See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
A Te Papa exhibit with the English translation of Te Tiriti o Waitangi has been trashed by protestors. The wooden panel displaying the english words hangs on the fourth floor of the museum near the cafe. A protestor appears to have abseiled down the wall and sprayed it in paint. Police say 12 people have been arrested. Te Papa kaihautu, Maori co-leader, Dr Arapata Hakiwai speaks to Lisa Owen. [embed] https://players.brightcove.net/6093072280001/default_default/index.html?videoId=6342755518112
A Māori legal expert is urging Te Papa to listen to protestors and remove its large display of the English version of the Treaty of Waitangi. Twelve people were arrested yesterday after attacking the exhibition and using spray paint and an angle grinder to damage a wooden display panel. The group, Te Waka Hourua says the English text wrongly states that Maori ceded sovereignty. Jemima Huston reports.
A former National Minister's urging the Government to back down on any idea of a referendum on the Treaty. ACT Leader David Seymour says debate about a referendum on the Treaty of Waitangi Principles Bill being introduced to Parliament could be deferred until later in the legislative process. He says it's helpful if the content of the bill and the referendum are dealt with separately. Former Minister for Treaty of Waitangi Chris Finlayson told Mike Hosking that Seymour should scale back his efforts in this space. He says the temperature's rising too high and there're bigger issues the Government needs to tackle right now. LISTEN ABOVE See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
The new National-ACT-NZ First coalition government says it will introduce a Treaty Principles Bill, based on ACT policy, and support it to a Select Committee. So what could this mean for Maori? Annabelle Lee Mather is a producer and reporter on TVNZ's Mata Reports and co-host of The Spinoff's political podcast Gone by Lunchtime.
A New Zealand First MP's showing sympathy towards David Seymour's position on Te Tiriti o Waitangi. ACT wants a referendum on Treaty principles, and signalled it's a priority in post-election talks. Shane Jones told Radio Waatea the courts have been liberal in their interpretation of the Treaty, and he understands why Seymour wants it tidied up. Former National Party Treaty Minister Chris Finlayson told Mike Hosking that while he is against the referendum, Jones did raise a good point about the Waitangi Tribunal. The Tribunal was formed in 1975 so, he said, a 50-year review of its role is a good idea. LISTEN ABOVE See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
On this week's podcast: Is the Indigenous Voice Australia's Treaty of Waitangi moment? There are differences. If the forthcoming referendum is successful, how will it affect government and life in Australia? The debate is splitting the country. If passed, the Voice will likely lead to separatism and bitterness, not reconciliation. From the Menzies Research Centre and The Australian, Nick Cater analyses the threats and any benefits there may be. Also, the Australian Communications and Media Authority, and the damage it could cause to freedom of speech in general. And The Mailroom with Mrs Producer. File your comments and complaints at Leighton@newstalkzb.co.nz Haven't listened to a podcast before? Check out our simple how-to guide. Listen here on iHeartRadio Leighton Smith's podcast also available on iTunes:To subscribe via iTunes click here See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Frederick Maning was one of the first Europeans to settle in Aotearoa, he married a high-ranking Ngāpuhi woman, and wrote two books filled with romantic anecdotes of his time living alongside Māori. So why did so many of his private letters express such violent, racist attitudes towards Māori? RNZ's Black Sheep podcast investigates.