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New Zealand First is against the Regulatory Standards Act they just voted for. Maybe National is too. Judge Aitken spoke up against Winston Peters and is now in a kangaroo court process. Most schools in the country have committed to giving effect to Te Tiriti o Waitangi.This episode's co-hostsPhilip, Stephanie, SimoneTimestamps0:00 Opening / Introductions1:50 Regulatory Standards and Leadership23:00 Attacking Judicial Systems42:46 Double Standards48:17 Critical Assessments54:02 Bigger Picture58:54 ClosingsIntro/Outro by The Prophet MotiveSupport us here: https://www.patreon.com/1of200

The days of regional councils could soon be over. It's understood the Government will announce a proposal for a local government shake-up later this afternoon. It comes after Prime Minister Christopher Luxon hinted on Sunday that a major reform is coming. Earlier this year, regional development minister and New Zealand First deputy leader Shane Jones told a forum there was "less and less of a justifiable purpose" for keeping regional government once the RMA reforms went through. Which got us thinking about regional councils and their purpose... To help explain that and what today's announcement could be, political reporter Russell Palmer joins me.

New Zealand First is denying claims the party's lining up to work with Labour next election, despite David Seymour suggesting the idea. Seymour made the claim after New Zealand First Leader Winston Peters announced he'd campaign on repealing the Regulatory Standards Bill. Newstalk ZB political reporter Azaria Howell says it's unclear where this will go from here, given how Seymour championed the bill. LISTEN ABOVESee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Winston Peters says the Coalition is doing just fine after his change of position on ACT's Regulatory Standards Bill. The NZ First Leader says next year he will campaign on getting rid of the legislation, despite supporting it just last week. ACT Leader David Seymour finds that worrying. But Peters told Mike Hosking he rejects any claim the Coalition is crumbling. He says their number one responsibility is providing a stable Government, which it is doing. LISTEN ABOVE See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

David Seymour isn't impressed with New Zealand First's promise to campaign on repealing ACT's Regulatory Standards bill. The Bill passed last Thursday - supported by New Zealand First, National and ACT - and became law two days ago. NZ First leader Winston Peters has since called it a 'terrible overreach' and 'not fit for a modern democracy'. Seymour gave his opinion on this move. "People want to play politics - I mean, it's not even an election year yet." LISTEN ABOVESee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The Greens' new mining policy isn't just bold. Duncan calls it what it is - reckless economic sabotage. In today's episode, he breaks down exactly what it would mean if a future government tore up mining permits that companies had already spent years and millions securing. Investor confidence falls through the floor, regions lose jobs, and Kiwi workers head to Australia because the opportunities here get pulled out from under them. New Zealand First's Shane Jones joins the show to unpack the scale of the damage, from constitutional overreach to the reality of what foreign investors are saying behind closed doors. If the Greens want to scare off capital before projects even start, Duncan argues, this is exactly how to do it. We also hear from a government worker offering rare insight into real public sector cuts, despite claims to the contrary. It's all part of a bigger question - how do we build anything in this country, when every long-term project becomes a political football? Find every episode and discover your next favourite podcast on the rova app or rova.nz Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Well, welcome back Opportunity. I think I have that right. Opportunity is the former "The Opportunities Party". Now it's just "The Opportunity Party". It has a new leader and a new tax policy. They have been looking for a leader for ages and they even advertised. None of this is a good sign. Their biggest problem is the market is full – there is no room for another political party. There was no room 10 years ago and there's even less room now. Now, I don't, but you could argue that as the MMP environment evolves and matures some nuance is sought by a frustrated electorate. A boutique operator if you will. The major parties have faded and the days of National and Labour cracking 40% are gone. The days of a two-party Government might well be gone as well. So as it all fragments, surely there must be room for a small operator wedging its way in between, say, National and Labour as a sort of mid-way, subtle alternative. The trouble is, and I argued this years ago when Gareth Morgan was running the joint, 5% is actually a lot of votes and very few, if any, crack it. Look at ACT's journey – for years they needed a deal in Epsom to work the system and the coattail. There is a reason United vanished. What they should have done is run Morgan in an electorate. Name recognition would have helped, and he may have got the seat, got 2%, and had a party of 2-3 MPs. Being in and staying in is easier than getting there in the first place. Here is their other issue: nuance is not what we do. That's why radicals are gaining support all over the world, from Pauline Hanson in Australia to the minor players who make up Government's in the likes of Holland and Germany. You need to be more left, or right, than centre. Could we also argue that New Zealand First is centrist, given they are the only party that can legitimately claim the ability to deal with either National or Labour? So good on them for keeping the Opportunity dream alive. They're still here after a decade. They're either visionaries whose time is yet to come, or dreamers who can't read the room. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Coalition differences were aired at volume today - with Christopher Luxon and Winston Peters at loggerheads over the prospect of asset sales. The Prime Minister says it's a conversation worth having. The New Zealand First leader says it's a failed economic strategy. Acting political editor Craig McCulloch reports.

As one coalition partner speaks against asset sales, another is keen to welcome them with open arms. The Prime Minister reiterates he's ruled them out this term, but is keen to reconsider them in future, saying legitimate conversations should be held. New Zealand First's Winston Peters says he's going to stop the country's assets from being sold. "The reality is, the name of this game is getting an asset and extracting the maximum amount of value out of it for your your workforce, for your wealth, for your economy. Other countries do that, why don't we?" LISTEN ABOVESee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

For our weekly catch-up with the Labour Party, Wire Host Caeden spoke to Shanan Halbert about the draft primary school curriculum, the Regulatory Standards Bill passing second reading, New Zealand First's proposed ban on fireworks, and the government considering measures to move rough sleepers out of the Auckland CBD.  For International Desk, they spoke to Matt McDonald, Professor of International Relations at the University of Queensland, about high-level United States officials not attending COP30 next week. Producer Jasmine spoke to 350 Aotearoa's Adam Currie about the government's recent announcement to delay the carbon zero climate target to 2050. And Producer Sanat talked to Councilor Julie Fairey about the latest developments with Plan Change 120 and what it feels like to transition from campaigning to governance He also talked to the University of Auckland's Dr Lucy Hardie about youth vaping and how it is widening inequalities throughout our communities.

You know how we're a free trade country? It's our thing. We export, we earn, we sell, we get richer. And we want open supply chains and free movement of goods across borders, etc., etc. Well, today Trump and Xi of China are finally signing that deal—or at least the framework of a deal—to bring an end to this war. This should, in theory, benefit both of them. The region. And us. That's a good thing. We're also likely to sell our dairy consumer brands to the French today, in a deal worth $4 billion. That's a good thing. Yesterday, Westpac released some research—they reckon our GDP wasn't actually that bad in June.They revised down their estimate from a 0.9% contraction to just 0.1%. They say it all came down to an accounting glitch related to the closure of the Marsden Point oil refinery. In all of these stories, two ideologies are playing out. Are we a free trade, open-the-door, globalist sort of country? Or are we the Winston Peters, protectionist, don't-sell-your-milk-brands, keep-Marsden-Point-open type of place? Are we New Zealand First? Because the more countries out there protecting themselves, the stronger the argument becomes for us doing the same.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The mood appears to be souring between coalition parties over the sale of well-known New Zealand's dairy brands to French multinational Lactalis. New Zealand First says the move to sell Fonterra brands like Mainland and Anchor is not in the country's best interests. But ACT's leader David Seymour is championing a free market approach, saying it's the farmers that should be making the decision. Political reporter Russell Palmer has the details.

Health Minister Simeon Brown was met with booing at the senior doctors' annual conference before accusing doctors of "crossing an ethical line" and threatening compulsory arbitration. New Zealand First leader Winston Peters fired off some threats of his own suggesting regulation for Fonterra if the Lactalis sale proceeds. ACT leader David Seymour hit back at Peter's threats saying the decision is for the farmers, not the Government. Newstalk ZB senior political correspondent Barry Soper says 'politicking' tiffs like Peters and Seymour's will become more common as elections approach next year. LISTEN ABOVESee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

New Zealand First leader Winston Peters has doubled down on his criticism towards Fonterra's plan to sell Mainland and Anchor to the French company Lactalis. In an open letter to the company Peters threatened new regulations if the sale goes ahead. ACT leader David Seymour hit back saying the decision should be up to the farmers, not the Government, a sentiment echoed by Prime Minister Christopher Luxon on Monday. Peter's claims the letter was not a threat and he did not intend to interfere with the farming community or Fonterra. LISTEN ABOVESee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

David Seymour is welcoming New Zealand First's changes to his Regulatory Standards Bill as a 'win-win'. Political reporter Russell Palmer reports.

New Zealand First has started to voice concerns over the proposed Gene Technology Bill, breaking away from fellow coalition partners. NZ First claimed it wouldn't support the current bill - unless National agreed to some significant changes. The Country's Hamish McKay explained further. LISTEN ABOVESee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

National has dipped into the twenties, while New Zealand First has hit double-digits, in a new poll. The latest Taxpayers Union-Curia poll has National down 3.5 percentage points to 29.6%. Labour has also taken a bit of a hit- but the left bloc would have 21 seats in total - which would be enough to form a government. Political reporter Giles Dexter spoke to Lisa Owen.

New visa residence pathways for skilled workers has caused a rift between the government coalition, New Zealand First invoking the "agree to disagree" provision over "serious concerns". The Economic Growth and Immigration ministers today announced new visa pathways today, hoping to plug workforce shortages. But New Zealand first leader Winston Peters is refusing to back the policy, saying it will mean New Zealand turns into a stepping stone for people wanting to move to Australia. Giles Dexter reports.

New Zealand First is slamming the Government's latest immigration move - allowing more migrant workers to get a fast-tracked residency. The Government's announced two new pathways, one for skilled work experience and another for trades and technicians. NZ First has invoked the agree to disagree clause - voicing concerns that those who gain residency will become citizens and then leave for Australia. Deputy Leader Shane Jones claims New Zealand's had unfocused immigration policies for some time. He says the Government's focused on 'pumping up the tyres' of employers instead of training up Kiwis to fill the jobs. LISTEN ABOVESee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Celebrations for a big and bodacious Oriini Kaipara byelection victory were shortlived for Te Pāti Māori thanks to Tākuta Ferris's decision to double down on a social media post aghast at a multicultural group of Labour supporters for Peeni Henare on the campaign trail. That was compounded by party president John Tamihere entering the breach, and a mysterious reollaction of the role of party whip. Annabelle Lee-Mather, Ben Thomas and Toby Manhire talk through the fallout and ask what it means for TPM and their relationship with Labour. Plus: a bigger-than-expected contraction in the economy has seen GDP shrink by 0.9%: is the government running out of time for the weather to change? In other defeat from the jaws of victory news, New Zealand First's new champion Stuart Nash enjoyed about 10 minutes of acclaim before putting his foot in it. And as Winston Peters gives David Seymour yet another dressing down, what explains the government's refusal to simply announce its position on a Palestinian state? Oh, and we issue a formal apology for propagating disinformation in last week's audiocast. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Last week, New Zealand First leader Winston Peters announced plans to campaign for compulsory KiwiSaver at the next election, and increase the minimum contribution from 4% to 12%. He said there would be tax cuts alongside these changes to help fund the increase in contributions. LISTEN ABOVESee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

There were plenty of political attacks flying around New Zealand First's annual general meeting last weekend and it's government partners weren't spared from some friendly fire. Roughly one year out from the election, government parties are making a real effort to differentiate themselves for votes. RNZ political reporter Russell Palmer examines how this is going and what impact it might have on coalition relationships. Go to this episode on rnz.co.nz for more details

Former Labour MP Stuart Nash has resigned from his job at recruitment agency Robert Walters, after a formal review was initiated by the company. It comes after Mr Nash apologised for using vulgar language to describe women's body parts on an interview on the digital broadcaster, the Platform. It is also just days after Mr Nash spoke at New Zealand First's annual conference, and did not rule out campaigning for the party at the next election. Political reporter Lillian Hanly spoke to Lisa Owen.

Tonight on The Huddle, Infrastructure NZ chief executive Nick Leggett and CTU economist Craig Renney joined in on a discussion about the following issues of the day - and more! Right-wing activist and speaker Charlie Kirk was fatally shot and killed in Utah earlier today. Are we worried about what this means for the future of political discourse? Stuart Nash has resigned following his infamous comments about what makes a woman - did he have choice in the matter? And what could this mean for his chances in NZ First? Should non-elected council members be allowed to vote? ACT is looking to change that - do we agree with this? Dame Noeline Taurua was stood down as Silver Ferns coach - do we think this is fair or another case of Gen Z being too fragile? LISTEN ABOVESee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

In today's episode, we have our weekly political panel; New Zealand First minister Shane Jones wants his party to consider re-nationalising the gentailers; Israel has carried out a strike on senior Hamas leaders in the Gulf state of Qatar; An organisation that aims to get more New Zealanders exercising says a new initiative to make fitness more affordable could save the country billions in health costs.

New Zealand First minister Shane Jones wants his party to consider re-nationalising the gentailers. Jones spoke to Corin Dann.

On the podcast today... Media's treatment of the Māori Party  Special guest Shane Jones from New Zealand First shares his insights on the current political landscape, including the relationship between Labour and the Māori Party, their electoral performance, and the broader implications for New Zealand politics. Jones also comments on the media's approach to reporting on Māori politics and the challenges facing Māori representation Get in touch with Duncan - duncan@rova.nz and join us on the socials. Website: https://www.rova.nz/podcasts/duncan-garner-editor-in-chief-live Instagram: @DuncanGarnerpodcast TikTok: @DuncanGarnerpodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Sacked Labour minister and former MP Stuart Nash has said if he was ever going to stand for parliament again then it would be with New Zealand First. Nash spoke at New Zealand First's Annual conference over the weekend, claiming Labour has strayed from its core values and is acting as an arm of the union. Stuart Nash spoke to Lisa Owen.

Today on the show… Whistleblowers, Political Controversy & Party Scandal -  Christopher Luxon's ongoing struggles and the internal turmoil that may jeopardize the party's future. Joined by panelists Stu Nash and Ashley Church, the conversation also touches on Stuart Nash's alignment with New Zealand First and the changing dynamics within the Labour Party.   Website: https://www.rova.nz/home/podcasts/duncan-garner---editor-in-chief Instagram: @DuncanGarnerpodcast  TikTok: @DuncanGarnerpodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Stuart Nash turning up at the conference over the weekend - that was quite a coup for New Zealand First. Now, clearly what New Zealand First is trying to do is emulate what Reform - Nigel Farage's party - in the UK is doing. If you've been following what they're up to, they have had a huge number of politicians defect to Reform. And every single time it happens, the news media covers it and it makes Reform look like the party with the momentum. That is what New Zealand First is trying to do. That's why you had both Stuart Nash, formerly of Labour, and Harete Hipango, formerly of National, at the conference over the weekend. Now, despite the circumstances of Stuart leaving Parliament, he's actually a really big defection from Labour because he's a very capable politician. He managed to turn Napier into a red seat in 2014, despite the popularity of the Key Government at the time. He was one of the few ministers in the Ardern administration that voters on the right actually had time for. He is, and I think that's because he's a proper centrist in the Labour Party - not crazy left like a lot of them are, a little bit more to the right - which is why he's probably going to find a better home for himself in New Zealand First than the Labour Party of 2025. Now, I don't know if Labour realizes what they've lost with Stuart Nash leaving. I mean, of course, he's really been out of Labour since the moment Chippy fired him, but I don't think they even realized then what they'd lost because they haven't replaced him. And what I mean by that is they haven't gone looking for another true centrist politician. Back in the day, Labour had heaps of them. They had Phil Goff, David Shearer and just going back through time - Richard Prebble, Roger Douglas, Mike Moore - it wasn't that unusual to have a good little centrist or righty sitting in the Labour Party. Now, name one for me. I mean, you might have once been able to say Chippy, but he's allowed himself to be pulled so far to the left, I'm not sure you could call him a centrist anymore. Now, you cannot, as a Labour Party, win over the centre voter if you do not have politicians that the centre voter likes. And Stuart Nash, I think, was probably the last one of them. I would say: total coup for New Zealand First. LISTEN ABOVESee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

On the Heather du Plessis-Allan Drive Full Show Podcast for Monday, 8 September 2025, the tragic story of the missing Tom Phillips and his kids has come to a close today. The kids are with authorities, Tom Phillips is dead and a police officer critically injured. Police Minister Mark Mitchell and former police negotiator Lance Burdett speak with Heather as the situation unfolded. It was a terrible weekend for Labour, with an embarrassing overwhelming by-election loss and the defection of former Labour MP Stuart Nash to New Zealand First. The Ministry of Education has doubled its pay offer to secondary school teachers, but they won't have a bar of it. Plus, the Huddle reflects on the sad end to the Tom Phillips story and whether getting Stuart Nash on board is a coup for New Zealand First. Get the Heather du Plessis-Allan Drive Full Show Podcast every weekday evening on iHeartRadio, or wherever you get your podcasts. LISTEN ABOVESee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

New Zealand First is backing major changes to KiwiSaver ahead of the election and it's sparked discussion about what this could mean going forward. The party's announced it will campaign on compulsory employee and employer contributions rising to 10 percent, to be offset with tax cuts. Finance Minister Nicola Willis says this will likely be a significant issue ahead of the election, but she's voiced concerns about the tax cuts. "For context, our tax package that we delivered after the election was $3.7 billion - so that is a heck of a lot of tax cuts. So the question then becomes - how do we fund that?" LISTEN ABOVESee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

In today's episode, New Zealand First held its annual meeting over the weekend, and with election year ahead, hints of campaign rivalry are beginning to creep into the coalition; The Black Ferns now who have sent an emphatic message as they seek to defend their Rugby World Cup title, as they beat Ireland 40-nil; University students in Auckland are feeling the pinch when it comes to the cost of public transport; We cross the Tasman for the latest from Kerry-Anne Walsh.

New Zealand First held its annual conference over the weekend with compulsory KiwiSaver and a migrant values contract put on the table. Leader Winston Peters spoke to Ingrid Hipkiss.

New Zealand First wants to make KiwiSaver compulsory, and increase contributions to eight, then 10 percent. Political reporter Russell Palmer has more.

New Zealand First held its annual meeting over the weekend, and with election year ahead, hints of campaign rivalry are beginning to creep into the coalition. Prime Minister Christopher Luxon spoke to Corin Dann.

The New Zealand First election campaign may have begun, and Winston Peters believes the party is marching forward with practical solutions. MPs and supporters gathered in Palmerston North over the weekend for the party's annual conference. Members discussed 55 remits, which could end up being policy proposals in next year's election campaign. Party Leader Winston Peters told Mike Hosking NZ First is compellingly different from other parties, doing the right thing for Kiwis. He says the party sits in the middle, is pragmatic, and talks about common sense solutions. LISTEN ABOVESee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The New Zealand First Conference is being held this weekend in Palmerston North. 

Finally, we have a serious party who has spent time thinking about it - and is now seriously suggesting that New Zealand should pull out of the Paris Climate Agreement. Now, that was what came from that ACT Party announcement that I told you would be coming today that you needed to keep an eye out for. ACT says Paris isn't working for New Zealand and it says we should push for the agreement to be reformed - and if it isn't reformed, then we should pull out of it. It isn't working, ACT says, because it's pushing up our food prices and it's pushing up our power prices and it's forcing the farmers off the land to make way for trees. And you can add to that list something that we've seen a lot of this winter and last winter - it is shutting down industry because of those high power prices. Now, there will be a lot of people who hear this from ACT and write it off as nutty climate change denier stuff. It is not. Think about the Paris Agreement critically, right? Set aside, you know, your vibes, whether you want to help the climate, set all of that stuff aside. Just think about this critically as to whether it works or not. And you can see it doesn't work. I mean, I stand to be corrected, but I cannot see any country that is meeting the targets. We will not meet the targets. The US, one of the world's biggest polluters, has pulled out. China, the world's biggest polluter, is still building coal-powered plants. I mean, we are fretting about the one coal-powered plant that we've got and they're building heaps of them. India, another one of the biggest polluters, is also doing the same with coal-powered plants. In which case, why would a country responsible for 0.17 percent of the world's emissions - or something like that - continue to persist with the Paris Agreement? Because we're not saving the planet, we're just making Kiwis poorer. And power is so expensive that we now have people who cannot turn on the heater every time Huntley burns expensive coal. Coal, by the way, which is not expensive, but which we have decided to artificially make expensive in order to save the planet. Now, the Nats have shot this down already and say it's not happening. That's smart politics for them, because they've got to hold on to the swing voters who might react badly, you know, without thinking things through to anything that looks like climate change denial. The Nats might want to be careful about what they rule in or out hard before the election, because they might need flexibility afterwards, given both of their coalition partners want out of Paris. ACT officially wants out unless things change, New Zealand First keeps hinting at it. And if National is honest with itself, they should want to get out of it too, because Paris is making us poorer, but not doing anything to save the planet. LISTEN ABOVESee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The government has announced changes to the foreign buyers ban, letting some wealthy foreigners back into the housing market, but only if they're spending at least $5 million. It is a significant turnaround for New Zealand First, which helped put the ban in place back in 2018 when it was in a coalition government with Labour. Acting political editor, Craig McCulloch spoke to Lisa Owen.

High value foreign investors will now be able to buy a home in New Zealand, as long as it's worth $5 million plus.The government today loosened the foreign buyers ban that was introduced in 2018 by Labour with New Zealand First's help. Caleb Paterson from Paterson Real Estate spoke to Lisa Owen.

Wealthy foreigners who invest here will now be able to buy high end property. New Zealand First leader Winston Peters spoke to Ingrid Hipkiss.

New Zealand First Leader Winston Peters says he wasn't dragged kicking and screaming into a new foreign investors deal. The Government's approved changes to allow people with an investor residence visa to buy or build one home, starting at $5 million. They're required to invest an extra $5 million into the economy to qualify. Peters told Mike Hosking he supports the changes and wants to make very clear it's not a change to the foreign buyers ban. He says it's a change to investment rules to attract money to the country that we desperately need. LISTEN ABOVE See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

We got there at last. If you are a Golden Visa holder, that's a person who puts $5-10 million into the country, you can now buy a house. The idea that we expected you to put that sort of money into a country and then rent was, and is, absurd. Not to get into the weeds too deeply, but the Golden Visa is different to the 183 days rule. The Golden Visa means you can invest but not be here the 183 days. But it now means you do qualify for a $5m+ home. None of this is complex. None of this needed to be as hard as it has turned out to be. You will note from Winston Peter's comments yesterday he has preserved his ongoing dislike for so-called foreigners coming here and snapping up the countryside and locking the rest of us out of the market, none of which happened of course, but the xenophobic streak runs deep in that party. But if you go back to National's original idea of $2m, a lot of water has gone under the bridge. A lot of banging of heads has happened and some people have had to be dragged kicking and screaming to what I would've thought was a fairly obvious finish line. The weird thing for me about Peters is this is the same bloke who is out in the world pleading with said world to come and invest. He's saying come and do business, we are open. He is trying on one hand to desperately rectify the damage of the Labour Government Covid era, while at the same time doing the old New Zealand First "cake and eat it too" trick. "Please come, please bring your money but, oh, given you're a foreigner you can use Airbnb". It's nonsense. At $5m it changes little for you and me. It's a tiny portion of homes. Its two million pounds and it's three million US dollars. For some global citizens it's pocket change. But it all helps, and man do we need help. The worry is the difficulty in getting here. Easy, obvious decisions should not be hard. They should be quick and slick. But we got there. It all helps. It was a good day for NZ Inc. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

While certainly the minor party with the greatest longevity, have the Greens achieved more than other minor parties like ACT or New Zealand First? Political scientist Natalia Albert discusses.

I can't blame you if your assessment of Parliament today is that it's become a circus, because what happened today is kind of hard to defend or even explain. Chlöe was kicked out, Brownlee suspended her for a week and all of the Government parties voted for that punishment - and that includes New Zealand First, before Winston Peters then got up to tell Jerry Brownlee that the punishment wasn't fair, even though he just voted for the punishment. And then Debbie got up and said the C-word again. Now, Chlöe did actually break the rules. I mean, this is another one of those seemingly arbitrary or hard to explain rules in Parliament - that MPs can't accuse each other of being cowards. Nick Smith did it in 2003, he accused MPs across the house of not having the spine to debate a vote. He withdrew and apologized. Steve Chadwick did it in 2007, she accused the opposition of being absolutely gutless and spineless. She withdrew and apologized. John Key did it in 2015, quite famously when he yelled at Labour to get some guts over the war, but he got away with it and actually probably shouldn't have. So Chlöe did break the rules. But then, Debbie got up and said the C-word, and she didn't break the rules. So explain that. How is accusing other MPs of being spineless worse than dropping the C-bomb in the House of Representatives? I mean, sure, one is aimed at someone and the other one is just a swear word that's been dropped. But when you get into explaining that level of nuance on offensiveness, I think you've lost the audience. Plus, why is Gerry Brownlee all of a sudden the tough cop? I mean, this is the guy who was wringing his hands over the Māori Party getting kicked out of Parliament for 3 weeks for the haka in David Seymour's face and for refusing to turn up to the Privileges Committee and for them leaking the recommended punishment from the Privileges Committee. But when Chlöe says basically the same thing that John Key once said without punishment, Jerry comes down on her like a ton of bricks. Frankly, none of this makes sense anymore. I mean, it does on a level of detail and minutia, sure, but explaining it to a normal person, no sense whatsoever. But guess who's loving this? Chlöe's loving this, because Chlöe's learned from Te Pāti Māori and the haka that there's one surefire way to get attention, and that's to break the rules of Parliament and not be sorry. What a circus. LISTEN ABOVESee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

National and ACT campaigned on ending the oil and gas exploration ban, but it is New Zealand First - who were part of the government that put it in place - that has taken the lead. Labour's climate spokesperson Megan Woods spoke to Ingrid Hipkiss.

Under government direction, Sport New Zealand has scrapped guidelines for the inclusion of transgender people in community sport. The removal comes after a review showing the principles did not reflect legitimate community expectations that sport should prioritise fairness and safety. New Zealand First is claming full credit for the change as its coalition partners struggled to explain why the change was needed. Russell Palmer reports.

New Zealand First should be stripped of the tobacco and vaping portfolio, according to an advocacy group set up to keep kids off nicotine. The call comes after RNZ published documents alleging close ties between tobacco giant Philip Morris and New Zealand First. Guyon Espiner broke the story, and spoke to Melissa Chan-Green.

Retail NZ has said it believes forcing vendors to take real folding money would be a step backwards. It comes after New Zealand First introduced a members bill that would make it illegal to refuse cash for essential services like food, fuel and telecomunications. Retailers and service providers would also have to take cash payments up to $500. The "Cash Transactions Protection Bill " would also require vendors to hold enough cash in case of a digital outage of more than twenty-four hours. Retail NZ CEO Carolyn Young spoke to Lisa Owen.