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Josh & Taylor talk culture, pop-culture, a little bit of theology, the NBA, & host really cool guests.

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    • Mar 4, 2022 LATEST EPISODE
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    ... The Soul of a Helper

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 4, 2022 133:30


    in this episode ... Ukraine-Russia Baylor Mens bb Emerging TV Show Update from Taylor Josh Shares his favorite Sermon Illustrations of all Time bible character names frequency quiz In our main conversation we talk to Dr. Holly Oxhandler about her new book The Sou of the Helper. Special thanks to episode sponsor Ichiban

    ... A Life Transition

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 22, 2022 86:53


    Juwan Howard and Josh's colorblind sociological experiment ROC children and the Winter Olympics Russia invading Ukraine Palindrome Week Presidents Day Review All-Star Game Review In our main conversation we talk about Josh's big announcement and the nature of life transition. Special thanks to episode sponsor Mo's Cookies.

    ... Being Single on Valentines Day

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 15, 2022 87:10


    Social Media Addiction Global Supply Chain Issues Eminem Halftime Knee Stafford & the Lions Dave Aranda's Long Term ContractJosh reviews Marry Me We Pick Our Celebrity Friends (again)Kanye West vs. Pete DavidsonThe Harden Simmons Trade Enneagram FodderIn our main conversation, we talk about being single on valentines day and the lived reality of that experience inside and outside of the church. special thanks to episode Night Light Donuts

    ... Friendship

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 8, 2022 95:12


    Josh Reviews Hamilton Winter Olympics Aaron Rodgers Saga Joe Rogan and the future of Spotify Val gets cited for quiz correction Taylor quizzes Josh on Valentines Day in our main convo we talk about friendship.

    ... Compassion Part 2

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 1, 2022 75:36


    Chiefs Kingdom Mimics the Bills Mafia Neil young & Joe Rogan Sharing Worldle Scores Lindsay Graham and the latest evidence of the simulation Air pods salvation for Josh How to be friends with Tom Brady & J.K. Rowling RomCom Couple Quiz In our main conversation we talk about compassion and assuming the best about stories that lack context. Special thanks to episode sponsor Guess BBQ

    ... The Necessity of Kingdom Violence

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 25, 2022 72:26


    Taylor's Bad Week Love for Texas Aaron Rodgers Wordle Downton Abbey Convo Partner Lia Thomas Yellowjackets/Gilded Age/Ozark AirPods In our main conversation we chat about the inevitable nature and proper use of violence if ever? special thanks to episode sponsor Hewitt Veterinary Clinic

    ... Regional(isms) with a special emphasis on Texas

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 18, 2022 100:48


    Romantic Songs (continued) Top Gun Baylor's Women's B-Ball Winning vs. Moral Winning Externals future of Marvel Metaverse Downton Abbey (A Conversation on Classism) Asteroids in our main episode we talk about domestic Regional(isms) with specific emphasis on Texas. special thanks to episode sponsor Waco Lock & Key

    ... Community

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 11, 2022 84:45


    ... 2021

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 4, 2022 75:06


    Labor Shortage & Minimum Wage, Moon Positions, Home Alone Movies, Sweet Bobby, You've Got Mail, Aranda's 12 win season, cold weather In our main conversation we talk 2021, which is also the content of our quiz. Special thanks to episode sponsor Poco Loco.

    ... Racial Capitalism (with Dr. Jonathan Tran)

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 21, 2021 112:18


    The Winter Olympics/ Baylor's R1 Status/ Marshall Cook/ Home Sweet Home Alone Review/ In our main conversation we talk with Dr. Jonathan Tran about his new book Asian Americans and the Spirit of Racial Capitalism. Special Thanks to episode sponsor Eastside Revival Eatery

    ... Christmas

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 14, 2021 74:14


    We analyze the simulation poll/ Charlie Brewer's New QB Job/ Josh's Sleepless Night explained/ Sleepwalkers/ Seth Curry's 3 Point Record/ McAllister Family Tree/ Cleveland Guardians/ Banned Books/ In The Bleak of Midwinter/ Is Joe Biden Still President?/ Josh Quizzes Taylor on White Christmas In our main conversation we talk Christmas ... all the things. Best: songs, movies, traditions, foods. Get ready. Special thanks to episode sponsor Harp Design Co.

    ... The Supreme Court

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 7, 2021 86:59


    Taylor's Wisdom Teeth/Josh Reviews CATS/Sleepless in Seattle vs. You've Got Mail/IHOP/India's Coroner's Policy/Dave Aranda's Oklahoma Field Goal/Elon Musk's Newest Worth/Kramer Robertson's Baseball Career/The Latest Evidence For the Simulation/ In our main conversation we made an attempt to talk about the Supreme Courts ruling on the Mississippi abortion law, but devolved into mostly talking about the politicization of the court itself.

    ... A Thanksgiving Special

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 16, 2021 90:52


    Why Are People Attracted to Pete Davidson/ Beto for Governor?/ Love Hard Review/ Hijacked Air Pods & The Simulation/ New NBA Ball/ Baylor Field Goal/ Hard Words for Josh/ Josh & Taylor Rankings/ In our main discussion we talk Thanksgiving history, traditions and make a few calls to listeners. Happy Holidays. Special Thanks to Episode Sponsor: Taylor Beard Real Estate Co.

    ... Aaron Rodgers

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 9, 2021 83:08


    The Music Man / Gen x vs Millennial (A Final Word on Josh)/ Waco Restaurant Occupancy/ Day Light Savings/ 1941-2021 (A brief analysis of time)/ Astroworld/ Finch (A Review)/ Taylor Quizes Josh On the NFL/ Special thanks to our episode sponsor Mo's Cookies In our main conversation we talk about the Aaron Rodgers's PR disaster and his vaccination choices.

    ... the harmonics triad

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 2, 2021 94:38


    ... Evil

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 26, 2021 87:34


    In this episode we talk: /Jesusween/ Alec Baldwin's Tragedy/ Restaurant Ethics/ Lula Jane's Economic lesson/ Prices Mako leaves Japanese Royal Family/ Josh is not loving The Divine Dance/ John Mulaney & Olivia Munn/ Josh saw Come From Away this weekend so we call Bev from Gander Canada./ In our main conversation we talk about the reality of evil in our world./ Special thanks to episode sponsor Lula Janes.

    ... Cancel Culture (Again (Again))

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 19, 2021 72:12


    Josh's car smell / Kardashian update: Courtney update / Colcord halloween / BU football schedule correction / Jamie costa's Robin Williams YouTube video / Richard schiff Jurassic Park 2 Appearance / Squid Game / Muppet Halloween Special / The Ginsburg Couric Edits / A Halloween Quiz / Taylor requests a return to cancel culture again. In this conversation we make key discoveries about our postures toward cancel culture and who its role in in our larger social ecosystem. Special thanks to episode sponsor @thebearmountain

    ... Paradigm Shift (the future of orthodoxy)

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 13, 2021 80:30


    Best Song Covers Sports Update (packers, baylor and a wild football weekend) NBA Top 100 Scary Movies Black Widow review in our main conversation we talk the paradigm shift taking place in western christendom and the future of orthodoxy in its expression. Special thanks to episode sponsor @circlehardward

    ... Binding & Loosing

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 7, 2021 74:29


    We discuss ... the new Matrix movie Alex Lux bear attack video Brady vs. the Pats 40 year old sleeping selves Zuckerbergs Facebook failures the Kardashians Charle's Graham's political ad in our main discussion we talk about liberal conservatives and the ancient rabbinical tradition of binding and loosing. is there another option for centrists? special thanks to episode sponsor Harvest on 25th

    ... Compassion

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 29, 2021 82:19


    An unexpectedly long conversation about the Jenner/Kardashians Ten Rings and the future of Marvel Meta Gala Gowns The truth about Ross & Rachel Women's Gymnastic Champions Boomer Cancel Culture Confessions BU Football & a conversation about Richard Rohr's compassion.

    ... The Beginning

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 14, 2021 58:03


    In this episode Taylor & Josh catch up on the summer. Sports: Olympics Russell Westbrook OU/UT Big 12 Departure Milwaukee Bucks World Champions Entertainment: Ross/Rachel Bob Ross Documentary Pray Away Documentary 5 part 9/11 Netflix Miniseries Turning Point Summer TV

    Summer Special

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 20, 2021 69:18


    -mystery of the missing communion bread solved -Gloria Steinem -the Olympics (duh) -Sha'Carrie Richardson & other Olympic troubles -Ted Lasso season 2 -Cruella -NBA Finals (Go Bucks) -Travel Report from Josh

    ... The Future of the Church

    Play Episode Listen Later May 31, 2021 94:13


    It was either this or ... - culturally significant television - music vs lyrics and the stance repression - Taylor confronts Josh about some things she heard on last weeks podcast - Josh tells about his 911 fiasco - we debrief Rollings Stones 100 best sitcom list - NBA analyst Elliot Krey gives us a look at playoffs in our main conversation we talk about the future of the church and being back in person. special thanks to episode sponsor The Tire House.

    ... A Seminary Degree

    Play Episode Listen Later May 24, 2021 66:29


    Guess what! Guest Host Bri Childs fills in for Taylor! - Dear Evan Hansen - Shrek 20 years later - Baylor's LGBTQ statement - Giving What You Can from An Enneagram - George Floyd Anniversary - Greg Abbott's Performance In our main conversation we talk about the seminary experience and thank Bri for all the good things. Special thanks to episode sponsor the Waco Zoo.

    ... Futurism

    Play Episode Listen Later May 17, 2021 72:57


    - Israeli/Palestinian conflict - self-preserving future enneagram numbers and capitalism - gas shortage? - Wonder Years reboot with Dule Hill - Nikole Mitchell's vocational shift - women in ministry Taylor quizzes Josh on Pixar films. In our main conversation Josh and Taylor talk about futurism and the future of religion. Special thanks to episode sponsor Hawks Chicken.

    ... Post Christendom Culture

    Play Episode Listen Later May 10, 2021 77:55


    In this Episode: - Mothers Day -NBA Update -1981 Best Picture Winner -Nadia Bolz Webber vs Rachael Denhollander on porn -Elon Musk SNL thoughts In our main discussion we talk about the advantages and disadvantages of living in a post-christendom culture that seems inevitable.

    ... Rich Rohr

    Play Episode Listen Later May 3, 2021 78:58


    josh gives a doge coin update, which engenders an interesting conversation about billionaires. Josh mourns the Aaron Rodgers situation in Green Bay. Andrew S-C gets a twitter comparison shout out. We investigate the mystery of the stolen communion bread. We unpack Kaitlyn Jenner’s transgender athletics comments. Why did the Oscar’s ratings suck. Josh gives Taylor a “which college should you have attended quiz?” In our main conversation we talk the final chapter of Richard Rohr’s The Universal Christ. Special thanks to episode sponsor HEB.

    ... Atonement

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 26, 2021 88:02


    In this episode Josh talks cryptocurrency NFT & doge coin investments. Taylor is watching all the marvel movies. They explore which of the five sense they’d be willing to live without. Kathy Krey vets our Friends knowledge. Josh comments on the josh fight. Kim Mulkey is leaving Waco. We talk about how great it was watching church on T.V. In our main conversation Josh discloses what he’s learning about atonement from Richard Rohr’s the Universal Christ and T & J work on translating that to cancel culture and race relationship discussions. Special, special thanks to episode sponsor Harvest on 25th.

    ... Languishing

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 19, 2021 56:49


    In this episode J & T talk about the Derek Chavin trial, kids putting instagram/tictok id stickers on their car windows, Fauci Ouchies and other words we don't like, the Andrew Sabonis-Chafee Billie Jean special, Draymond Green being overrated, and the friends end cap at Barnes & Noble. That inspired a Friends quiz. In our main conversation we talk Adam Grant's New York Times article about languishing. Special thanks to episode sponsor Teriyaki Park.

    ... Reconstruction

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 14, 2021 94:27


    Hello friends. Today T & J talk Rachel Hollis anger videos, Jess Smith clears up appearing “with” in the title sequence, the evolution emojis, Dirk getting drafted by the Bucks and wearing a Baylor natty t-shirt, stats on queer identification, and Taylor reviews the HBO film Unpregnant. In our main conversation T & J delve into reconstruction and suggest some ways forward. Special thanks to episode sponsor East Side Market.

    ... Resurrection

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 5, 2021 93:57


    in this episode T & J talk West Wing updates, Dav Pilkey’s self censoring, satan shoes, UBC brackets, Baylor’s national championship hopes, Easter @ UBC, & and Taylor finally saw A Week Away and offers her thoughts. in our main conversation we talk about historical, bodily resurrection and what’s essential for the faith. Special thanks to our episode sponsor Waco Paddle Company.

    ... A Mediator

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 29, 2021 101:09


    J & T talk enneagram triad primal sins, the NCAA tournaments, the most confusing Netflix musical ever A Week Away, the Last Blockbuster, the purpose of being credited “with” in the title sequence of a show, & Josh quizzes Taylor on celebrity deaths from the last decade. In our main conversation we talk with Cheryl Miller about her amazing work in reconciliation as we look for new ways to think about cancel culture. Special thanks to episode sponsor Katie’s Frozen Custard.

    ... Cancel Culture (Again)

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 23, 2021 68:51


    J & T talk driving habits, Brene Brown quotes, enneagram gift ideas, NCAA tournament results & Taylor quizes Josh on NCAA tourney history. In the main part J & T talk about the newest David Brooks article. Thanks to episode sponsor Skinny's iPhone Repair.

    ... A Mount Carmel Survivor

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 15, 2021 112:35


    In this episode J & T talk Dr. Suess, the royal family, mask mandates, Dan Prescot's contract, & much more. Josh gives Taylor a quiz based off of the Ringer's best TV character of the 20th C bracket, & it's Marty's birthday. In our main discussion we talk with Mt. Carmel Survivor David Thibodeau about the Waco siege, life after David Koresh and his experiences with the Waco cast. Special thanks to episode sponsor Midway Automotive.

    ... A Lesson On Apologizing

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 1, 2021 71:43


    We finally remember to talk about Ted Lasso. Also, Disney qualifying offensive content, the longevity of Harry Potter, TikTok/Twitter realities, and we revisit the Sam Seaborn political tactic we discussed last week. Our main topic is an exposition on apologies and their function in culture and close relationships. Special thanks to episode sponsor Waco Lock & Key.

    ... A Metaphysical Rewards Program

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 22, 2021 87:41


    In this episode J & T use prompt offered by Dr. Harris Bechtol to talk through motif of being rewarded by your heavenly father in secret found in Matthew 6 (which was one of our ash wednesday readings BTW). This motif forces to ask why are we really Christian and for what reason would one follow Jesus? In the weekend round up we talk TV (Community, West Wing), Britney Spears Documentary, Josh's enneagram epitaph experiment, and Taylor quizzes Josh on Bible verses. Special Thanks to episode sponsor Smoot Anderson.

    ... Failed Leadership

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 15, 2021 81:25


    In this episode J & T talk serendipity, Texans grocery shopping in stress, & "no one:" memes. Josh quizzes Taylor on the most important events in the last 30 years. In the main section we talk about the tweet thread of Steve Bezner on pastors who flame out and why. Special thanks to episode sponsor Newks.

    ... Tom Brady

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 8, 2021 77:28


    In this episode J & T talk about having proximity and or friendship to others whom you disagree with over moral matters. As an example they talk about being a fan of Tom Brady and whether or not his political convictions should have a role in that. In the weekend round up they talk Community, SNL Zillow videos, Wendell Berry, a new review and Taylor gives Josh an NFL quiz. Special thanks to episode sponsor CenTex Manufacturing .

    ... A Linguist

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 1, 2021 55:32


    In this episode J & T talk about evolution of words and their acceptable usage in with particular reference to Paul and his military imagery. In the weekend round up they talk sitcoms, Community (the show), Alexi Navalny, Russia, lawyers and much more. Josh quizzes Taylor on her Office knowledge. Special thanks to episode sponsor The Waco Farmers Market.

    ... An MLK Quote

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 25, 2021 53:22


    In this episode J & T talk about the inauguration, Amanda Gorman, Mary from Baris, Harry Potter, the "A OK" symbol, & Atypical. In our main episode we talked white people posting MLK quotes an performative allyship vs white silence. Special thanks to our episode sponsors Fabled and Baris

    ... Fortnite

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 11, 2021 73:14


    In this episode J & T talk to guests David Tran & Roy Carney about playing video games. In the weekend round up we talk Soul (again), that Christmas River song by Joni Mitchell, and sedition @ the capital building. Special thanks to episode sponsors AG Realty & Lola's Coffee and Pastries.

    ... A Dick Clark New Year

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 5, 2021 86:56


    In this episode Josh & Taylor recall the 2020 year by reviewing political events, cultural events, music, movies, tv and more. In the weekend round our they talk PROM, Soul, Awoman, Enneagram 3 emotional repression (again), and much more. Special Thanks to episode sponsors @shellytaylorphotography and @dicamolinos

    ... The Walk of Shame

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 23, 2020 85:31


    Josh & Taylor discuss Josh's aversion to cancel culture based on his location within the heart triad and its relationship to shame. In the weekend round up we cover: Esquire John Wright, Giannas's Supermax deal, West Wing details, Christmas wars, & a final Christmas quiz.

    ... A Vaccine

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 15, 2020 87:47


    In this episode Josh & Taylor discuss how vaccine's work (or try and remember) and speculate about the effectiveness the coming vaccine. In the weekend round up they get to the bottom of cannibal sandwiches with a phone call to Milwaukee, discover Josh's Twilight character during quiz time, and review the ESPN's NBA Top 10.

    ... Christmas With The Krank Yankers

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 7, 2020 78:21


    In this episode Josh & Taylor prepare for the coming of the Lord by cold calling some of Waco's finest to talk through holiday favorites. In the weekend roundup get the latest on West Wing, Christmas traditions, and a special Christmas quiz. Special thanks to guests: Jamie McGregor, Dr. Jackson Griggs, Dr. Leslie King, Dr. Kathy Krey, Esquire Martha Wright, & Kareem Shane.

    ... A Rock & Roll Star

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 1, 2020 87:41


    Mark "the Shark" Waldrop joins us to talk about being a Christian? rock & roll star. We also chat the history of UBC. In the weekend roundup we conclude our Schitt's Creek analysis and Taylor quizzes Josh on broadway musical songs.

    ... A Trip To Hell

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 24, 2020 82:24


    In this episode Josh & Taylor talk with psychologist Dr. Joseph Leman about his research on the psychological effects of hell on individual's mental health. Dr. Leman also takes Josh and Taylor through their own hell assessment and they discuss the Dunning-Kruger Effect. Listeners can also expect to hear a bit about LL Cool Jay, Pfizer update, & and a really fun literary quiz for book nerds.

    ... A Mulligan

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 17, 2020 77:52


    sorry, not about golf at all. in this episode Taylor and Josh take a second shot at parsing this differences in the approaches of justice and unity post election. Also this episode we review every number 1 song from 2000-2019, talk a second about the West Wing, lament our first covid positive family member on team Carney and send our gratitude to reviewers.

    ... A Political Pundit

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 10, 2020 66:06


    Taylor & Josh talk about themes of justice & unity in light of the recent election results. They also cover Schitt's Creek, The West Wing, Reviews, and other items.

    ... A Comedian (with Holly Laurent)

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 3, 2020 92:37


    Holly Laurent is a 2nd City survivor, comedian and host of Mega, a satirical podcast that makes fun of megachurch life. In this episode we talk to Holly about her journey out of Christianity, how she currently holds faith and podcast life. In the weekend round up you get updates on Taylor's house buying effort, the West Wing, Schitt's Creek & we bid farewell to Sean Connery.

    ... Losing Followers (with Kelly Harp)

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 26, 2020 79:45


    We host our first guest Kelly Harp. In this episode we talk to Kelly about having a large social media platform and speaking about issues she believes in at the expense of losing that following. Also in the weekend round up we cover: NBA start up, Taylor buying house, all the famous Chris's, Adam Sandler, and much more.

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