That Blasted Salami presents: Wavedash & Fightin' Words

0:00 We're back!0:58 General thoughts on Tekken 807:53 Heat System24:32 Forced 50/50s in Tekken 833:00 Chip Damage40:55 Rage Arts and Comebacks49:59 Combos in Tekken 81:05:45 Throws in Tekken 81:17:50 Chickens and Complexity01:25:00 Jin Kazama in Tekken 801:41:52 Kazuya Mishima in Tekken 802:05:20 Heat Smashes02:08:19 Claudio Serafino in Tekken 802:21:23 Round-upSupport the show

0:00 Intro0:44 Hello!1:40 How do you juggle work, family and practicing Tekken?5:50 How much do you practice?9:40 Tekken is a social game ★11:49 How do you split your time to improve, if you have 6 hours? ★16:40 Which character did you study for TWT? 21:54 Zoom alert popped out22:11 The advantage of choosing Katarina ★25:42 Katarina is a “Tekken 7 Character” ★27:27 What are the most important tools that the character needs to be good in T7?36:08 What is a constructive mindset for improvement? ★42:48 Which match gave you the most trouble / memorable moment in Group A?50:25 How was the Match vs Nobi? ★59:03 Meeting Ghirlanda's daughter 1:00:43 Cassandra wants to go to EVO1:01:55 Sponsorships, difficulties with tournaments (issues with tournaments) ★1:09:13 Thoughts about Tekken 8 ★1:18:01 Importance of cultivating constructive / positive interactions in the community ★1:23:25 Cassandra sings1:24:41 Cassandra rocking the Spag glasses1:25:58 Shout outs1:34:06 Other tips for improvingSupport the show

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Arya and Hannah talk about Kojima's masterpiece - P.T. and the birth of "domestic horror".Watch Revisitations on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFWq28rUm-cSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/ThatBlastedSalami)

Leon Massey and TheoryFighter join me to discuss their thoughts on Guilty Gear Strive after the February 2021 open beta.Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/ThatBlastedSalami)

Speedkicks, Dinosaur, Spag and Arya share their thoughts on the role of movement in fighting games and Tekken design philosophy.Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/ThatBlastedSalami)

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Arya is joined by MainSpagSWE and Manghetti Rip to share their thoughts on Season 4.Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/ThatBlastedSalami)

We're joined by 2 Nina specialists to discuss the deadly assassin.Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/ThatBlastedSalami)

Old men continue reminiscing about old gamesSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/ThatBlastedSalami)

Cuddle Core, Celina and Fergus discuss how women are portrayed in fighting games, especially Tekken.Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/ThatBlastedSalami)

King Jae, Cuddle Core, Spag and Arya talk about the unique challenges that life as a Tekken content creator brings.Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/ThatBlastedSalami)

Arya, Spag, Frame & Fergus are joined by a new guest to Wavedash - Celina to discuss some of the technical and social barriers with getting into Tekken and fighting games.Buzzsprout - Let's get your podcast launched! Start for FREEDisclaimer: This post contains affiliate links. If you make a purchase, I may receive a commission at no extra cost to you.Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/ThatBlastedSalami)

Ryan Hart, Dinosaur, Starscream and Arya take a trip down memory lane.0:00 Intro2:22 The Tekken 2 meta4:47 A trip down memory lane13:50 Ryan Hart the fightstick wizard15:27 more fightstick talk17:50 The Tag 1 scene20:43 How Ryan Hart learned about wavedashing for the first time23:40 How strong sidestepping was in Tag 126:10 The spread of wavedashing28:44 The generational divide between old and new players34:14 Older Tekken games felt more unique36:17 Movement is something that keep players unique, even today37:34 The amount of media out changed the way people learned 45:48 Tournaments then vs now51:15 How did EVO change competitive fighting games?54:00 Maybe salt on its own is a good thing54:30 Tournaments have gotten away from finding out who's the best57:18 The Tekken 4 days1:01:10 What did Ryan Hart think of Tekken 4, as a Mishima main1:03:56 What did Dino think of Tekken 4?1:05:52 Current Jin's initial reception1:09:50 When did people start figuring out Jin was ridiculous1:14:30 Starscream's dominance in UK Tekken 41:25:32 Tekken 4 was the only time everyone didn't move on to the newest Tekken1:26:50 "For the grand"1:30:20 Back then, tournament format wasn't standardizedSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/ThatBlastedSalami)

We discuss what we want to see in Tekken 7 Season 4, focusing on balancing changes.Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/ThatBlastedSalami)

0:00 Intro2:04 Why do you play Hwoarang?5:34 What do you think about his Fated Retribution redesign?9:53 Hwoarang's history, Tekken 3 to now23:15 The "Hwoarang is OP! oh wait...no" cycle27:23 Has Hwoarang ever gotten a tool that completely changed him?38:25 Starscream's opinion on Hwoarang's punch parry 43:30 Thoughts on some of Hwoarang's new tools in Season 3?46:33 In the current meta, what are Hwoarangs major strengths and weaknesses? 51:42 Just sidestep to the direction of Hwoarang's stomach!53:25 Back to strengths, weaknesses, and match-ups1:50:00 The Pakistani community's ban on Fahkumram1:58:17 Dinosaur pinpoints what made Leroy and Fahkumram so strong2:18:37 Is Baek redundant now?2:23:03 Hwoarang and Baek differences2:26:55 Top 5 Hwoarangs?2:42:35 Advice for players looking to pick up Hwoarang or learning how to fight him2:52:50 What buffs / nerfs / general changes would you like to see for Hwoarang?Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/ThatBlastedSalami)

0:00 Intro2:53 Why do you play Steve?7:16 Steve's history9:29 Dinosaur's list of Steve tools in previous games that were either broken or terrible18:37 Dinosaur goes extinct19:10 What is the weakest iteration of Steve?33:21 Did Steve see any tournament success despite being strong in Bloodline Rebellion?36:51 Steve in Tag 2 wasn't a good fit for the system42:20 Steve in Tekken 7.0 and T7 Season 145:14 Steve in T7 Seasons 1, 2, and 31:11:44 Do you use manual FLK~WS+1?1:14:24 Thoughts on his new S3 low?1:20:28 Round up on T7 S1-3 changes, what was your favorite version between the 3 seasons?1:29:17 Comeback factor isn't always based on strong mix-ups1:31:49 Thoughts on Steve's matchups in T7?1:51:56 Steve's 1 jab has the worst range in the entire game 2:04:50 Steve benefits heavily from the system in T72:06:28 Low parry activation times?2:08:52 When do you use Steve's evasive options? (sidestep, weave, side weave)2:17:38 On paper, b+1 is strictly whatever. What makes it so special?2:23:45 Who are your top 5 Steve players?2:34:38 What advice would you give to a beginner or intermediate Steve player?2:47:47 What nerfs, buffs, or changes would you like to see for Steve?3:14:40 What direction do you want to see Steve headed towards in the future?Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/ThatBlastedSalami)

00:00 Recorded in May00:30 Introductions01:24 General thoughts on the Strive Beta04:13 The wall-break mechanic16:07 The perception of Guilty Gear being too difficult20:58 The untapped potential of tutorials23:05 Bringing in new players to FGs25:57 Fighting games are for boomers27:52 NRS are ahead of the curve28:55 Engagement30:44 COVID forcing developers to reconsider FGs as a complete package33:17 Characters run fighting games38:35 Developing a package that CAN attract new players, instead of a game explicitly focused on attracting new players43:47 Guest characters as marketing tools46:12 You can’t compare Terminator to Negan47:42 Fahkumram and Leroy50:37 Leroy “destroyed” the Tekken scene53:29 Kokonoe “destroyed” the BlazBlue scene 54:48 Tekken fans have short memories01:00:21 Outrage culture & listing the problems with Strive01:02:44 Rollback in Strive is bigger than Guilty Gear / listing good points01:04:05 The command list in Strive is amazing01:07:54 Fuck the GG vets01:09:04 Why BlazBlue is more complex than Guilty Gear now01:13:16 Thoughts on GranBlue Fantasy Versus01:15:02 The effects of no arcade release01:17:10 GBVS patches01:18:51 GBVS had a vision…(until Zooey came out)01:19:55 Why does Ferry have a DP?01:23:18 #NotMyStreetFighter01:26:19 GBVS as a secondary game / challenges of writing Tekken Overviews01:28:18 Eddy, Zafina and Akuma01:32:59 Capcom vs SNK 3 / Tekken X Street Fighter / Tekken 801:36:12 Season Pass: Remove Noctis, Negan and Chloe01:39:56 Events hard-carry promoting fighting games01:45:39 What do recent ArcSys games say about the direction they’re going in?01:46:58 Should Strive have been a new IP?01:47:33 Intermission -01:48:53 How many new FG I.P.s have there been in the past 10 years?01:52:37 The removal of Gatlings in Strive01:54:29 Strive changes betray a lack of confidence in GG02:07:22 Airdashes in Strive02:10:33 The trend in modern fighting games towards volatility02:11:43 Will Strive undergo a massive overhaul before release?02:16:03 The first version will be rough around the edges02:20:42 Setting pride aside02:24:33 Hopes for Zato in Strive02:28:41 Rev 2 Story Mode was for people who lurk GameFaqs02:31:02 CHRISTIE IS HER OWN CHARACTER #WaitingForMileena02:35:44 Being in the public eye02:37:55 Complexity isn’t what’s turning people away02:39:10 Let’s cut the dumb-shit for 2022Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/ThatBlastedSalami)

0:00 Introduction1:25 Is Akuma a good addition to Tekken?3:41 What does Akuma bring to the table? Akuma - yay or nay?6:01 What drew GoukiAkuma to Akuma7:03 What drew SuperAkouma to Akuma10:23 The Wong factor12:34 Which Akuma players inspire you?17:05 Cross ups in Tekken19:26 The good and bad things about Akuma25:00 Does Akuma require too much labbing?33:14 Akuma going against the grain35:29 Fated Retribution Akuma39:43 The best Akuma players in the world40:10 I. SuperAkouma’s Akuma40:34 II. Caiper’s Akuma41:04 III. Awais Honey’s Akuma42:49 IV. GoukiAkuma’s Akuma and the value of Shoryuken FADC on block45:06 V. Farzeen’s Akuma and child prodigies47:54 VI. Rickstah’s Akuma and slow-mo51:32 Kuma vs Akuma55:33 VII. Atif Butt’s Akuma57:03 VIII. Chikurin’s Akuma and his new power-crush59:18 Top 5 Akumas01:00:06 IX. Kashi Snake’s Akuma and Pakistani Tekken01:02:37 X. Bilal’s Akuma01:05:00 How Akuma has changed since Season 101:06:33 Were Akuma’s nerfs since Season 3 justified?01:11:01 Has Akuma’s identity been diminished?01:15:56 Akuma’s S2 unescapable ki-charge Raging Demon01:21:12 Listing Akuma’s recent nerfs01:23:50 Punish hellsweeps with EX air fireball01:25:10 Akuma’s useless moves01:28:38 The rationale behind nerfs on red fireball and ff+401:37:07 SuperAkouma’s famous comeback vs Chikurin01:40:26 Is Tekken 7 balanced?01:43:48 Homogenisation in Season 301:46:18 Season 3 changes were more cosmetic01:48:42 Balance =/= fun01:52:43 The need for better netcode01:59:13 Akuma’s bad match-ups02:20:18 Akuma’s good match-ups02:36:35 Akuma vs Geese02:37:22 Akuma vs other top-tiers02:39:52 What if Akuma had less health like in Street Fighter?02:42:13 Why doesn’t Akuma’s d+4 cause a stagger on block?02:54:15 Akuma (and Mishimas) are genuinely hard to play02:57:56 60 homogenized characters, or 30 unique characters?03:00:12 Has balance in Tekken 7 come at the cost of homogeneity?03:05:21 Panda slaps backSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/ThatBlastedSalami)

Top competitors, commentators and content creators from around the world come together to share their thoughts on the recent controversies surrounding Tekken, and try to find constructive solutions for them.00:40 Positive Solutions & Introductions04:41 Arslan’s thoughts on character balance24:35 Should all characters be tournament viable?36:36 Transparent patch notes47:55 Stealth changes57:57 How much should Bandai Namco listen to their community?01:04:33 Should pro-players have a big hand in balancing?01:18:32 Modernising Tekken01:36:27 Should tournaments be best of 5?1:41:44 The trend towards volatility2:00:15 Summarising Positive Solutions2:02:17 Season 4 or Tekken 8?2:07:24 The witch hunt on Michael Murray2:23:47 Thoughts on the Tekken community, recent patch etc 2:34:41 Training mode and tutorials3:01:30 Difference between Western and Eastern communities3:19:28 Lack of empathy online3:28:22 What needs to get improved in Tekken 73:47:02 Is Law top 3?Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/ThatBlastedSalami)

Ryan Hart, Dinosaur, Sephiblack and Arya discuss how developers and community can work together to create a more positive and welcoming environment for fighting games.Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/ThatBlastedSalami)

TheMainManSWE, FrameWhisperer and Arya are joined by Spaghetti Rip, Mihawk, and for the first time on Wavedash, Fergus to discuss how and why public opinion on Tekken 7 has soured recently.Timestamps:02:25 Fahkumram - general opinions21:43 Balancing based on tournament wins26:50 Fahkumram’s command throw37:02 The diminishing role of movement in Tekken49:26 Unnecessary buffs in 3.3001:03:37 The delicate balance of simplification01:16:40 Alternatives to buffing Hellsweep / Godfist01:19:30 The need for transparency01:24:20 Focusing on fundamentals01:39:09 Balancing around low level play01:46:54 3.30 Devil Jin and Qudans01:50:40 Global playstyles01:56:25 Devil Mihawk01:59:20 Fixing the online ranked system2:00:41 The effect of COVID-19 on the FGCSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/ThatBlastedSalami)

Spaghetti Rip joins FrameWhisperer and Arya to discuss global playstyles, Season 3 balancing, how Spag got his name and the importance of flossing.Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/ThatBlastedSalami)

In the first episode of Fightin' Words Joe and Arya discuss their favourite games, finding a family in the FGC, the death of arcades, Street Fighter V, Death Stranding, the Star Wars sequel trilogy and rank From Software titles00:50 How Joe and Arya know each other, making friends in the FGC03:06 What needs to be done to help boost the FGC?08:15 Should Fighting Games have a mandatory level of execution?11:22 Preference: Street Fighter IV or V. How SFV's meta changed over the years19:00 Street Fighter V netcode20:28 The Garou rollback resurgence21:58 Arcades in the late 90s / early 00s - CVS2, KoF98, Third Strike, Soul Calibur II25:05 Street Fighter V technical issues26:04 Intentional input delay, variable delay28:30 The FGC should be more unified34:06 The death of arcades36:30 Finding a family in the FGC39:07 Killer Instinct was incredibly ahead of its time40:42 Top 5 games44:00 Why Silent Hill 2 is so important to Joe and Arya50:00 The golden age of gaming (1997 - 2004)52:00 Catching lightning in a bottle53:19 The Star Wars sequel trilogy01:09:10 Splitting the story across multiple forms of media, Final Fantasy XV01:10:33 Visionaries need a check and a balance01:12:25 Death Stranding01:18:51 Ranking From Software gamesSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/ThatBlastedSalami)

Dinosaur joins TheMainManSWE, Frame Whisperer, Sephiblack and Legandary Mihawk to discuss whether Tekken is too bloated as well as discussing Rangchu's Season 3 tier list03:13 Is Tekken Too Unapproachable?12:24 Should movement be tied to execution?21;23 The difference between “depth” and “stuff”25:59 The effect of large movelists34:48 Training wheel characters44:22 Frank Tekken47:53 Was Leroy intentionally overpowered?50:20 The amount of stuff you have to learn 54:47 Generic moves are often the best moves01:01:12 Is it better to remove or normalize generic tools?01:03:38 Why Gigas is so “weak”01:09:50 Simple characters tend to do well in tournaments 01:14:58 Normalizing crush moves01:19:58 Focusing on character archetypes so players can express themselves01:24:28 Should characters be balanced around community feedback?01:32:55 Is Tekken 7 balanced?01:47:57 Rangchu’s tier list01:49:05 Xiaoyu is overrated01:54:14 Is Zafina top tier?02:01:01 Mid-tier Lee – strong but hard to use02:03:20 Dragunov is overrated02:08:58 The Goose is loose02:12:16 Is Law overrated?02:26:22 Marduk in tournaments02:26:55 Ganryu too similar to TTT2 version?02:28:53 Heihachi is underrated, but perhaps the hardest character in the game02:42:16 Is Negan good now?02:47:44 Lei and Miguel are underrated02:49:30 Bryan is underrated, but his jab sucks02:53:25 Asuka isn’t very effective at the highest level of play due to her inability to punish minor whiffs02:54:30 Claudio is simple and has strong space control02:59:03 Josie is risky but easy to use and also has excellent block punishment Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/ThatBlastedSalami)

Wavedash 04 - Sephiblack joins us to discuss Leroy and his effect on Tekken 7Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/ThatBlastedSalami)

Sephiblack and Legendary Mihawk join FrameWhisperer and Arya to discuss TWT Finals 2019, Leroy, Ganryu and Fahkumram, the "Global Tekken Race", the 3.10 Balance Patch and Miguel's shortcomings in Tekken 7Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/ThatBlastedSalami)

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TWT Finals predictions 01:30Leroy hype 07:13Gender issues in fighting games 13:40Back to TWT predictions 27:10Are characters in Tekken too similar? 34:40Why Armor King struggles 43:30Character trends 50:20Tekken tips: Consistency over damage 54:27Tournament, long-play and online tiers 56:56Screw vs Bound 01:13:20 Season 3 top tiers 01:24:11The limits of human execution 01:28:50What Lars would sound like in Swedish 01:37:33Katarina's VA 01:48:00Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/ThatBlastedSalami)