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On today's episode of Hear Me Out: prosecuting parents. Ethan Crumbley's parents didn't pull the trigger that killed 4 students in 2021 — but they've been sentenced to prison time for it all the same.  School shootings are devastatingly common in this country, but punishing the parents of the killer is a new tactic of handling the aftermath. Even if you think the Crumbleys were bad parents, though, the questions should be posed: why are we punishing them under the law? And is this the best way to address, or even prevent, mass tragedies? Professor, writer, and legal contributor for ABC News Kim Wehle joins us to urge for a look at the bigger picture. If you have thoughts you want to share, or an idea for a topic we should tackle, you can email the show: hearmeout@slate.com Podcast production by Maura Currie. Want more Hear Me Out? Subscribe to Slate Plus to access ad-free listening across all your favorite Slate podcasts. Subscribe today on Apple Podcasts by clicking “Try Free” at the top of our show page. Or, visit slate.com/hearmeoutplus to get access wherever you listen. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On today's episode of Hear Me Out: prosecuting parents. Ethan Crumbley's parents didn't pull the trigger that killed 4 students in 2021 — but they've been sentenced to prison time for it all the same.  School shootings are devastatingly common in this country, but punishing the parents of the killer is a new tactic of handling the aftermath. Even if you think the Crumbleys were bad parents, though, the questions should be posed: why are we punishing them under the law? And is this the best way to address, or even prevent, mass tragedies? Professor, writer, and legal contributor for ABC News Kim Wehle joins us to urge for a look at the bigger picture. If you have thoughts you want to share, or an idea for a topic we should tackle, you can email the show: hearmeout@slate.com Podcast production by Maura Currie. Want more Hear Me Out? Subscribe to Slate Plus to access ad-free listening across all your favorite Slate podcasts. Subscribe today on Apple Podcasts by clicking “Try Free” at the top of our show page. Or, visit slate.com/hearmeoutplus to get access wherever you listen. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On today's episode of Hear Me Out: prosecuting parents. Ethan Crumbley's parents didn't pull the trigger that killed 4 students in 2021 — but they've been sentenced to prison time for it all the same.  School shootings are devastatingly common in this country, but punishing the parents of the killer is a new tactic of handling the aftermath. Even if you think the Crumbleys were bad parents, though, the questions should be posed: why are we punishing them under the law? And is this the best way to address, or even prevent, mass tragedies? Professor, writer, and legal contributor for ABC News Kim Wehle joins us to urge for a look at the bigger picture. If you have thoughts you want to share, or an idea for a topic we should tackle, you can email the show: hearmeout@slate.com Podcast production by Maura Currie. Want more Hear Me Out? Subscribe to Slate Plus to access ad-free listening across all your favorite Slate podcasts. Subscribe today on Apple Podcasts by clicking “Try Free” at the top of our show page. Or, visit slate.com/hearmeoutplus to get access wherever you listen. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On today's episode of Hear Me Out: prosecuting parents. Ethan Crumbley's parents didn't pull the trigger that killed 4 students in 2021 — but they've been sentenced to prison time for it all the same.  School shootings are devastatingly common in this country, but punishing the parents of the killer is a new tactic of handling the aftermath. Even if you think the Crumbleys were bad parents, though, the questions should be posed: why are we punishing them under the law? And is this the best way to address, or even prevent, mass tragedies? Professor, writer, and legal contributor for ABC News Kim Wehle joins us to urge for a look at the bigger picture. If you have thoughts you want to share, or an idea for a topic we should tackle, you can email the show: hearmeout@slate.com Podcast production by Maura Currie. Want more Hear Me Out? Subscribe to Slate Plus to access ad-free listening across all your favorite Slate podcasts. Subscribe today on Apple Podcasts by clicking “Try Free” at the top of our show page. Or, visit slate.com/hearmeoutplus to get access wherever you listen. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

JORGE VELA JOINS DAWN LIVE! JORGE JOINS DAWN TO EXPAND ON THE LATEST LEGAL UPDATES... TRUMP TRIALS AND WHAT'S NEXT... PARENTS HELD ACCOUNTABLE IN MICHIGAN - IS THIS A PATH FORWARD? LATEST ON HARVEY WINSTEIN... TRIED AGAIN? ALL PROMPTS BELOW...  (AP) — The parents of a Michigan school shooter were each sentenced to at least 10 years in prison Tuesday for failing to take steps that could have prevented the killing of four students in 2021.Jennifer and James Crumbley are the first parents convicted in a U.S. mass school shooting. They were found guilty of involuntary manslaughter after prosecutors presented evidence of an unsecured gun at home and indifference toward the teen's mental health. Ethan Crumbley drew dark images of a gun, a bullet and a wounded man on a math assignment, accompanied by despondent phrases. Staff at Oxford High School did not demand that he go home but were surprised when the Crumbleys didn't volunteer it during a brief meeting. Later that day, on Nov. 30, 2021, the 15-year-old pulled a handgun from his backpack and began shooting at the school. Ethan, now 17, is serving a life sentence for murder and other crimes... The couple had separate trials in Oakland County court, 40 miles north of Detroit. Jurors heard how the teen had drawn a gun, a bullet and a gunshot victim on a math assignment, accompanied by grim phrases: “The thoughts won't stop. Help me. My life is useless. Blood everywhere.” Ethan told a counselor he was sad — a grandmother had died and his only friend suddenly had moved away — but said the drawing only reflected his interest in creating video games. The Crumbleys attended a meeting at the school that lasted less than 15 minutes. They did not mention that the gun resembled one James Crumbley, 47, had purchased just four days earlier — a Sig Sauer 9 mm that Ethan had described on social media as his “beauty.” His parents declined to take him home, choosing instead to return to work and accepting a list of mental health providers. School staff said Ethan could stay on campus. A counselor, Shawn Hopkins, said he believed it would be safer for the boy than possibly being alone at home. No one, however, checked Ethan's backpack. He pulled the gun out later that day and killed four students... and wounded seven other people... The judge, over defense objections, allowed the jury to see excerpts from his journal. “I have zero help for my mental problems and it's causing me to shoot up the ... school,” he wrote. “I want help but my parents don't listen to me so I can't get any help.” Asked about Ethan reporting hallucinations months before the shooting, Jennifer Crumbley, 46, told jurors he was simply “messing around.” At the close of James Crumbley's trial, the prosecutor demonstrated how a cable lock, found in a package at home, could have secured the gun. “Ten seconds,” McDonald said, “of the easiest, simplest thing.” Read more. Will these sentences be upheld if challenged in court? If so, does this set a precedent that other parents of school shooters could be sent to prison? (Axios)Harvey Weinstein will be re-tried for sex crimes in New York City as soon as September, the Manhattan District Attorney's office said on Wednesday... Catch up quick: Weinstein, 72, was found guilty of a criminal sexual act in the first degree and rape in the third degree in 2020 by a Manhattan jury. He was sentenced to 23 years in prison.The conviction was thrown out by an appeals court on Thursday on the basis that the trial and conviction involved "egregious errors."State of play... Actress Jessica Mann, an accuser in the case, was in court on Wednesday with Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg. She is willing to testify again, the AP reported...Zoom out: Weinstein is serving 16 years in prison in a separate rape case in Los Angeles, unaffected by the New York decision. Read more. Jorge Vela, Criminal Defense Attorney & Former Federal ProsecutorVela Law Criminal DefenseAustin, Texas Tune in weekdays 10 AM - 12 PM EST on Talk Radio 1210 WPHT: or on the Audacy app!

On today's episode of Hear Me Out: prosecuting parents. Ethan Crumbley's parents didn't pull the trigger that killed 4 students in 2021 — but they've been sentenced to prison time for it all the same.  School shootings are devastatingly common in this country, but punishing the parents of the killer is a new tactic of handling the aftermath. Even if you think the Crumbleys were bad parents, though, the questions should be posed: why are we punishing them under the law? And is this the best way to address, or even prevent, mass tragedies? Professor, writer, and legal contributor for ABC News Kim Wehle joins us to urge for a look at the bigger picture. If you have thoughts you want to share, or an idea for a topic we should tackle, you can email the show: hearmeout@slate.com Podcast production by Maura Currie. Want more Hear Me Out? Subscribe to Slate Plus to access ad-free listening across all your favorite Slate podcasts. Subscribe today on Apple Podcasts by clicking “Try Free” at the top of our show page. Or, visit slate.com/hearmeoutplus to get access wherever you listen. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

 In this episode of DXP we discuss the recent verdict regarding the Crumbleys, who were held legally liable for their son's mass shooting. We talk a bit about comedy, and then hear from a listener about his experience with “ethical non-monogamy.” “Pastor Jack's Off” returns, where we learn how much God loves white Boomers who can afford to live in southern California. Biebers involve medicine and storytelling in reverse.

Chas & Dr Dave discuss Jim's Online Spaces, Trump's Playboys and How Christopher Columbus Was An Arsehole! 2:00 - Grateful For (Causation/ MS Dhoni/ The Denton B-Side) 19:36 - Correspondence (Eclipses/Libraries/Weather Girls/Inflation/Good Books) 33:30 - The Conviction of The Crumbleys 40:58 - Trump's NY Trial's First Week 1:04:51 - Congress: Foreign Aid Votes 1:18:16 - The All-New Mike Johnson 1:28:20 - Comstock Act 1:32:08 - James Comer Wants Biden's Audio 1:34:42 - 2024 Polling/RFK 1:46:34 - Supreme Court: Grants Pass Homelessness Case 1:58:05 - Arizona Abortion Law 2:00:33 - Weird Florida Law 2:02:40 - Stats Nugget (Crime Rates) 2:07:17 - Terrible Political Songs 2:14:15 - Chas Unleashed: Non-Compete Clauses Banned 2:29:39 - Chas Unleashed: New Federal Overtime Rules 2:39:30 - Chas Unleashed: Supreme Court EMTALA Case (Emergency Abortions)

On Tuesday, April 9th, Jennifer and James Crumbley, parents of Michigan school shooter Ethan Crumbley, were separately sentenced to 10-15 years in prison. Both Crumbley parents were convicted of four counts of involuntary manslaughter in connection to the 2021 attack conducted by their son which killed four students. WJR Senior News Analyst Marie Osborne lays out the details of the Crumbleys' sentencing and provides a look at the statements given in court this week. Follow Emily on Instagram: @realemilycompagno If you have a story or topic we should feature on the FOX True Crime Podcast, send us an email at: truecrimepodcast@fox.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Flame Monroe and resident flamette Bobby Clifford discuss the solar eclipse, the end of Ramadan, the Crumbleys' case in Michigan, the Boeing whistleblower and air safety concerns, the plummeting stocks of Trump's streaming service, the Hush Money trial, Marjorie Taylor Greene's call to remove Mike Johnson as Speaker of the House, reproductive rights, the upcoming election, student debt relief, women's sports. They emphasize the importance of women's voices in the election and the need for women to rally together and more. Tune in and comment in the socials below. Be sure to subscribe, rate and share.  Follow Laugh and Learn: @monroeflame @cliffordbobbiSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Colin and Russ have a final discussion on Jennifer and James Crumbley, who were both sentenced to prison after their convictions for Involuntary Manslaughter.  The convictions entered due to their failures as parents to prevent their son, Ethan, from killing four students in his school.  Colin and Russ also discuss new developments in the Preston Lord homicide case in suburban Phoenix, and more on the so-called Gilbert Goons.  As always, the fellas play Is This Legal and enjoy a laugh with an international DCOTW.  Listen here!

In a landmark ruling, James and Jennifer Crumbley, parents of the Oxford High School shooter Ethan Crumbley, were each sentenced to 10-15 years in prison for their role in failing to prevent the tragic shooting that claimed the lives of four students in 2021. Appearing at the Oakland County Court, the Crumbleys sat close together but barely exchanged glances as their attorneys argued for lesser sentences. Impact statements from relatives of the victims, Madisyn Baldwin, Hana St. Juliana, Tate Myre, and Justin Shilling, were delivered before sentencing. "The ripple effects of both James and Jennifer's failures to act have devastated us all," expressed Justin's mother, Jill Soave, highlighting the anguish felt by the victims' families. This case marks the first instance in U.S. history where parents have been convicted for their alleged role in a mass school shooting. During the sentencing, Jennifer Crumbley spoke of her anguish since the tragic event, while James Crumbley became emotional, expressing empathy for the victims' families. However, defense attorneys argued for lesser sentences, citing time served and the absence of intent. Judge Cheryl Matthews emphasized the Crumbleys' failure to address concerns about their son's behavior, stating, "Opportunity knocked over and over again, louder and louder, and was ignored." Her decision reflects the gravity of their negligence in preventing the tragedy. Relatives of the victims recounted their pain and loss, expressing deep-seated resentment towards the Crumbleys. "The lack of compassion you've shown is outright disgusting," remarked Nicole Beausoleil, mother of Madisyn Baldwin, addressing Jennifer Crumbley directly. Others reflected on the irreplaceable void left by the loss of their loved ones. Steve St. Juliana, father of Hana St. Juliana, expressed his conviction that the Crumbleys deserved long sentences, emphasizing the enduring anguish caused by their actions. The sentencing marks a pivotal moment in the aftermath of the devastating school shooting, underscoring the importance of accountability and justice for the victims and their families. The Crumbleys were also ordered not to contact the victims' families, with considerations for a no-contact order between them and their son, Ethan Crumbley. The judge indicated that Ethan and James Crumbley would likely be housed separately within the Michigan Department of Corrections. As the community grapples with the aftermath of the tragedy, the sentencing of the Crumbleys serves as a stark reminder of the profound impact of their actions and the ongoing quest for healing and closure. Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on The Downfall of Diddy, Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK's Unconfessed Crimes, Delphi Murders: Inside the Crime, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Malevolent Mormon Mommys, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

In a landmark ruling, James and Jennifer Crumbley, parents of the Oxford High School shooter Ethan Crumbley, were each sentenced to 10-15 years in prison for their role in failing to prevent the tragic shooting that claimed the lives of four students in 2021. Appearing at the Oakland County Court, the Crumbleys sat close together but barely exchanged glances as their attorneys argued for lesser sentences. Impact statements from relatives of the victims, Madisyn Baldwin, Hana St. Juliana, Tate Myre, and Justin Shilling, were delivered before sentencing. "The ripple effects of both James and Jennifer's failures to act have devastated us all," expressed Justin's mother, Jill Soave, highlighting the anguish felt by the victims' families. This case marks the first instance in U.S. history where parents have been convicted for their alleged role in a mass school shooting. During the sentencing, Jennifer Crumbley spoke of her anguish since the tragic event, while James Crumbley became emotional, expressing empathy for the victims' families. However, defense attorneys argued for lesser sentences, citing time served and the absence of intent. Judge Cheryl Matthews emphasized the Crumbleys' failure to address concerns about their son's behavior, stating, "Opportunity knocked over and over again, louder and louder, and was ignored." Her decision reflects the gravity of their negligence in preventing the tragedy. Relatives of the victims recounted their pain and loss, expressing deep-seated resentment towards the Crumbleys. "The lack of compassion you've shown is outright disgusting," remarked Nicole Beausoleil, mother of Madisyn Baldwin, addressing Jennifer Crumbley directly. Others reflected on the irreplaceable void left by the loss of their loved ones. Steve St. Juliana, father of Hana St. Juliana, expressed his conviction that the Crumbleys deserved long sentences, emphasizing the enduring anguish caused by their actions. The sentencing marks a pivotal moment in the aftermath of the devastating school shooting, underscoring the importance of accountability and justice for the victims and their families. The Crumbleys were also ordered not to contact the victims' families, with considerations for a no-contact order between them and their son, Ethan Crumbley. The judge indicated that Ethan and James Crumbley would likely be housed separately within the Michigan Department of Corrections. As the community grapples with the aftermath of the tragedy, the sentencing of the Crumbleys serves as a stark reminder of the profound impact of their actions and the ongoing quest for healing and closure. Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on The Downfall of Diddy, Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK's Unconfessed Crimes, Delphi Murders: Inside the Crime, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Malevolent Mormon Mommys, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

In a landmark ruling, James and Jennifer Crumbley, parents of the Oxford High School shooter Ethan Crumbley, were each sentenced to 10-15 years in prison for their role in failing to prevent the tragic shooting that claimed the lives of four students in 2021. Appearing at the Oakland County Court, the Crumbleys sat close together but barely exchanged glances as their attorneys argued for lesser sentences. Impact statements from relatives of the victims, Madisyn Baldwin, Hana St. Juliana, Tate Myre, and Justin Shilling, were delivered before sentencing. "The ripple effects of both James and Jennifer's failures to act have devastated us all," expressed Justin's mother, Jill Soave, highlighting the anguish felt by the victims' families. This case marks the first instance in U.S. history where parents have been convicted for their alleged role in a mass school shooting. During the sentencing, Jennifer Crumbley spoke of her anguish since the tragic event, while James Crumbley became emotional, expressing empathy for the victims' families. However, defense attorneys argued for lesser sentences, citing time served and the absence of intent. Judge Cheryl Matthews emphasized the Crumbleys' failure to address concerns about their son's behavior, stating, "Opportunity knocked over and over again, louder and louder, and was ignored." Her decision reflects the gravity of their negligence in preventing the tragedy. Relatives of the victims recounted their pain and loss, expressing deep-seated resentment towards the Crumbleys. "The lack of compassion you've shown is outright disgusting," remarked Nicole Beausoleil, mother of Madisyn Baldwin, addressing Jennifer Crumbley directly. Others reflected on the irreplaceable void left by the loss of their loved ones. Steve St. Juliana, father of Hana St. Juliana, expressed his conviction that the Crumbleys deserved long sentences, emphasizing the enduring anguish caused by their actions. The sentencing marks a pivotal moment in the aftermath of the devastating school shooting, underscoring the importance of accountability and justice for the victims and their families. The Crumbleys were also ordered not to contact the victims' families, with considerations for a no-contact order between them and their son, Ethan Crumbley. The judge indicated that Ethan and James Crumbley would likely be housed separately within the Michigan Department of Corrections. As the community grapples with the aftermath of the tragedy, the sentencing of the Crumbleys serves as a stark reminder of the profound impact of their actions and the ongoing quest for healing and closure. Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on The Downfall of Diddy, Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK's Unconfessed Crimes, Delphi Murders: Inside the Crime, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Malevolent Mormon Mommys, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com 

They admit they're bad parents. But are the Crumbley parents murderers? Manslaughterers? Howie and the callers discuss the landmark conviction of two parents for the murders their son committed.

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In a landmark ruling, James and Jennifer Crumbley, parents of the Oxford High School shooter Ethan Crumbley, were each sentenced to 10-15 years in prison for their role in failing to prevent the tragic shooting that claimed the lives of four students in 2021. Appearing at the Oakland County Court, the Crumbleys sat close together but barely exchanged glances as their attorneys argued for lesser sentences. Impact statements from relatives of the victims, Madisyn Baldwin, Hana St. Juliana, Tate Myre, and Justin Shilling, were delivered before sentencing. "The ripple effects of both James and Jennifer's failures to act have devastated us all," expressed Justin's mother, Jill Soave, highlighting the anguish felt by the victims' families. This case marks the first instance in U.S. history where parents have been convicted for their alleged role in a mass school shooting. During the sentencing, Jennifer Crumbley spoke of her anguish since the tragic event, while James Crumbley became emotional, expressing empathy for the victims' families. However, defense attorneys argued for lesser sentences, citing time served and the absence of intent. Judge Cheryl Matthews emphasized the Crumbleys' failure to address concerns about their son's behavior, stating, "Opportunity knocked over and over again, louder and louder, and was ignored." Her decision reflects the gravity of their negligence in preventing the tragedy. Relatives of the victims recounted their pain and loss, expressing deep-seated resentment towards the Crumbleys. "The lack of compassion you've shown is outright disgusting," remarked Nicole Beausoleil, mother of Madisyn Baldwin, addressing Jennifer Crumbley directly. Others reflected on the irreplaceable void left by the loss of their loved ones. Steve St. Juliana, father of Hana St. Juliana, expressed his conviction that the Crumbleys deserved long sentences, emphasizing the enduring anguish caused by their actions. The sentencing marks a pivotal moment in the aftermath of the devastating school shooting, underscoring the importance of accountability and justice for the victims and their families. The Crumbleys were also ordered not to contact the victims' families, with considerations for a no-contact order between them and their son, Ethan Crumbley. The judge indicated that Ethan and James Crumbley would likely be housed separately within the Michigan Department of Corrections. As the community grapples with the aftermath of the tragedy, the sentencing of the Crumbleys serves as a stark reminder of the profound impact of their actions and the ongoing quest for healing and closure. Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on The Downfall of Diddy, Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK's Unconfessed Crimes, Delphi Murders: Inside the Crime, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Malevolent Mormon Mommys, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

In a landmark ruling, James and Jennifer Crumbley, parents of the Oxford High School shooter Ethan Crumbley, were each sentenced to 10-15 years in prison for their role in failing to prevent the tragic shooting that claimed the lives of four students in 2021. Appearing at the Oakland County Court, the Crumbleys sat close together but barely exchanged glances as their attorneys argued for lesser sentences. Impact statements from relatives of the victims, Madisyn Baldwin, Hana St. Juliana, Tate Myre, and Justin Shilling, were delivered before sentencing. "The ripple effects of both James and Jennifer's failures to act have devastated us all," expressed Justin's mother, Jill Soave, highlighting the anguish felt by the victims' families. This case marks the first instance in U.S. history where parents have been convicted for their alleged role in a mass school shooting. During the sentencing, Jennifer Crumbley spoke of her anguish since the tragic event, while James Crumbley became emotional, expressing empathy for the victims' families. However, defense attorneys argued for lesser sentences, citing time served and the absence of intent. Judge Cheryl Matthews emphasized the Crumbleys' failure to address concerns about their son's behavior, stating, "Opportunity knocked over and over again, louder and louder, and was ignored." Her decision reflects the gravity of their negligence in preventing the tragedy. Relatives of the victims recounted their pain and loss, expressing deep-seated resentment towards the Crumbleys. "The lack of compassion you've shown is outright disgusting," remarked Nicole Beausoleil, mother of Madisyn Baldwin, addressing Jennifer Crumbley directly. Others reflected on the irreplaceable void left by the loss of their loved ones. Steve St. Juliana, father of Hana St. Juliana, expressed his conviction that the Crumbleys deserved long sentences, emphasizing the enduring anguish caused by their actions. The sentencing marks a pivotal moment in the aftermath of the devastating school shooting, underscoring the importance of accountability and justice for the victims and their families. The Crumbleys were also ordered not to contact the victims' families, with considerations for a no-contact order between them and their son, Ethan Crumbley. The judge indicated that Ethan and James Crumbley would likely be housed separately within the Michigan Department of Corrections. As the community grapples with the aftermath of the tragedy, the sentencing of the Crumbleys serves as a stark reminder of the profound impact of their actions and the ongoing quest for healing and closure. Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on The Downfall of Diddy, Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK's Unconfessed Crimes, Delphi Murders: Inside the Crime, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Malevolent Mormon Mommys, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

In a landmark ruling, James and Jennifer Crumbley, parents of the Oxford High School shooter Ethan Crumbley, were each sentenced to 10-15 years in prison for their role in failing to prevent the tragic shooting that claimed the lives of four students in 2021. Appearing at the Oakland County Court, the Crumbleys sat close together but barely exchanged glances as their attorneys argued for lesser sentences. Impact statements from relatives of the victims, Madisyn Baldwin, Hana St. Juliana, Tate Myre, and Justin Shilling, were delivered before sentencing. "The ripple effects of both James and Jennifer's failures to act have devastated us all," expressed Justin's mother, Jill Soave, highlighting the anguish felt by the victims' families. This case marks the first instance in U.S. history where parents have been convicted for their alleged role in a mass school shooting. During the sentencing, Jennifer Crumbley spoke of her anguish since the tragic event, while James Crumbley became emotional, expressing empathy for the victims' families. However, defense attorneys argued for lesser sentences, citing time served and the absence of intent. Judge Cheryl Matthews emphasized the Crumbleys' failure to address concerns about their son's behavior, stating, "Opportunity knocked over and over again, louder and louder, and was ignored." Her decision reflects the gravity of their negligence in preventing the tragedy. Relatives of the victims recounted their pain and loss, expressing deep-seated resentment towards the Crumbleys. "The lack of compassion you've shown is outright disgusting," remarked Nicole Beausoleil, mother of Madisyn Baldwin, addressing Jennifer Crumbley directly. Others reflected on the irreplaceable void left by the loss of their loved ones. Steve St. Juliana, father of Hana St. Juliana, expressed his conviction that the Crumbleys deserved long sentences, emphasizing the enduring anguish caused by their actions. The sentencing marks a pivotal moment in the aftermath of the devastating school shooting, underscoring the importance of accountability and justice for the victims and their families. The Crumbleys were also ordered not to contact the victims' families, with considerations for a no-contact order between them and their son, Ethan Crumbley. The judge indicated that Ethan and James Crumbley would likely be housed separately within the Michigan Department of Corrections. As the community grapples with the aftermath of the tragedy, the sentencing of the Crumbleys serves as a stark reminder of the profound impact of their actions and the ongoing quest for healing and closure. Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on The Downfall of Diddy, Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK's Unconfessed Crimes, Delphi Murders: Inside the Crime, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Malevolent Mormon Mommys, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com 

In a landmark ruling, James and Jennifer Crumbley, parents of the Oxford High School shooter Ethan Crumbley, were each sentenced to 10-15 years in prison for their role in failing to prevent the tragic shooting that claimed the lives of four students in 2021. Appearing at the Oakland County Court, the Crumbleys sat close together but barely exchanged glances as their attorneys argued for lesser sentences. Impact statements from relatives of the victims, Madisyn Baldwin, Hana St. Juliana, Tate Myre, and Justin Shilling, were delivered before sentencing. "The ripple effects of both James and Jennifer's failures to act have devastated us all," expressed Justin's mother, Jill Soave, highlighting the anguish felt by the victims' families. This case marks the first instance in U.S. history where parents have been convicted for their alleged role in a mass school shooting. During the sentencing, Jennifer Crumbley spoke of her anguish since the tragic event, while James Crumbley became emotional, expressing empathy for the victims' families. However, defense attorneys argued for lesser sentences, citing time served and the absence of intent. Judge Cheryl Matthews emphasized the Crumbleys' failure to address concerns about their son's behavior, stating, "Opportunity knocked over and over again, louder and louder, and was ignored." Her decision reflects the gravity of their negligence in preventing the tragedy. Relatives of the victims recounted their pain and loss, expressing deep-seated resentment towards the Crumbleys. "The lack of compassion you've shown is outright disgusting," remarked Nicole Beausoleil, mother of Madisyn Baldwin, addressing Jennifer Crumbley directly. Others reflected on the irreplaceable void left by the loss of their loved ones. Steve St. Juliana, father of Hana St. Juliana, expressed his conviction that the Crumbleys deserved long sentences, emphasizing the enduring anguish caused by their actions. The sentencing marks a pivotal moment in the aftermath of the devastating school shooting, underscoring the importance of accountability and justice for the victims and their families. The Crumbleys were also ordered not to contact the victims' families, with considerations for a no-contact order between them and their son, Ethan Crumbley. The judge indicated that Ethan and James Crumbley would likely be housed separately within the Michigan Department of Corrections. As the community grapples with the aftermath of the tragedy, the sentencing of the Crumbleys serves as a stark reminder of the profound impact of their actions and the ongoing quest for healing and closure. Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on The Downfall of Diddy, Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK's Unconfessed Crimes, Delphi Murders: Inside the Crime, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Malevolent Mormon Mommys, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

In a landmark ruling, James and Jennifer Crumbley, parents of the Oxford High School shooter Ethan Crumbley, were each sentenced to 10-15 years in prison for their role in failing to prevent the tragic shooting that claimed the lives of four students in 2021. Appearing at the Oakland County Court, the Crumbleys sat close together but barely exchanged glances as their attorneys argued for lesser sentences. Impact statements from relatives of the victims, Madisyn Baldwin, Hana St. Juliana, Tate Myre, and Justin Shilling, were delivered before sentencing. "The ripple effects of both James and Jennifer's failures to act have devastated us all," expressed Justin's mother, Jill Soave, highlighting the anguish felt by the victims' families. This case marks the first instance in U.S. history where parents have been convicted for their alleged role in a mass school shooting. During the sentencing, Jennifer Crumbley spoke of her anguish since the tragic event, while James Crumbley became emotional, expressing empathy for the victims' families. However, defense attorneys argued for lesser sentences, citing time served and the absence of intent. Judge Cheryl Matthews emphasized the Crumbleys' failure to address concerns about their son's behavior, stating, "Opportunity knocked over and over again, louder and louder, and was ignored." Her decision reflects the gravity of their negligence in preventing the tragedy. Relatives of the victims recounted their pain and loss, expressing deep-seated resentment towards the Crumbleys. "The lack of compassion you've shown is outright disgusting," remarked Nicole Beausoleil, mother of Madisyn Baldwin, addressing Jennifer Crumbley directly. Others reflected on the irreplaceable void left by the loss of their loved ones. Steve St. Juliana, father of Hana St. Juliana, expressed his conviction that the Crumbleys deserved long sentences, emphasizing the enduring anguish caused by their actions. The sentencing marks a pivotal moment in the aftermath of the devastating school shooting, underscoring the importance of accountability and justice for the victims and their families. The Crumbleys were also ordered not to contact the victims' families, with considerations for a no-contact order between them and their son, Ethan Crumbley. The judge indicated that Ethan and James Crumbley would likely be housed separately within the Michigan Department of Corrections. As the community grapples with the aftermath of the tragedy, the sentencing of the Crumbleys serves as a stark reminder of the profound impact of their actions and the ongoing quest for healing and closure. Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on The Downfall of Diddy, Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK's Unconfessed Crimes, Delphi Murders: Inside the Crime, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Malevolent Mormon Mommys, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

In a landmark ruling, James and Jennifer Crumbley, parents of the Oxford High School shooter Ethan Crumbley, were each sentenced to 10-15 years in prison for their role in failing to prevent the tragic shooting that claimed the lives of four students in 2021. Appearing at the Oakland County Court, the Crumbleys sat close together but barely exchanged glances as their attorneys argued for lesser sentences. Impact statements from relatives of the victims, Madisyn Baldwin, Hana St. Juliana, Tate Myre, and Justin Shilling, were delivered before sentencing. "The ripple effects of both James and Jennifer's failures to act have devastated us all," expressed Justin's mother, Jill Soave, highlighting the anguish felt by the victims' families. This case marks the first instance in U.S. history where parents have been convicted for their alleged role in a mass school shooting. During the sentencing, Jennifer Crumbley spoke of her anguish since the tragic event, while James Crumbley became emotional, expressing empathy for the victims' families. However, defense attorneys argued for lesser sentences, citing time served and the absence of intent. Judge Cheryl Matthews emphasized the Crumbleys' failure to address concerns about their son's behavior, stating, "Opportunity knocked over and over again, louder and louder, and was ignored." Her decision reflects the gravity of their negligence in preventing the tragedy. Relatives of the victims recounted their pain and loss, expressing deep-seated resentment towards the Crumbleys. "The lack of compassion you've shown is outright disgusting," remarked Nicole Beausoleil, mother of Madisyn Baldwin, addressing Jennifer Crumbley directly. Others reflected on the irreplaceable void left by the loss of their loved ones. Steve St. Juliana, father of Hana St. Juliana, expressed his conviction that the Crumbleys deserved long sentences, emphasizing the enduring anguish caused by their actions. The sentencing marks a pivotal moment in the aftermath of the devastating school shooting, underscoring the importance of accountability and justice for the victims and their families. The Crumbleys were also ordered not to contact the victims' families, with considerations for a no-contact order between them and their son, Ethan Crumbley. The judge indicated that Ethan and James Crumbley would likely be housed separately within the Michigan Department of Corrections. As the community grapples with the aftermath of the tragedy, the sentencing of the Crumbleys serves as a stark reminder of the profound impact of their actions and the ongoing quest for healing and closure. Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on The Downfall of Diddy, Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK's Unconfessed Crimes, Delphi Murders: Inside the Crime, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Malevolent Mormon Mommys, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com 

James and Jennifer Crumbley are set to be sentenced next month after separate juries convicted them of involuntary manslaughter for failing to prevent their son from killing four classmates in a 2021 mass shooting at a Michigan high school. The Crumbleys' convictions mark the first time in U.S. legal history that the parents of a school shooter have been found criminally liable for their child's actions. Some legal analysts say the highly specific facts of the case mark it as an outlier. But others say it could set precedent for parental liability — for gun crimes and beyond. We'll talk about the verdicts and their potential ramifications. Guests: Erik Ortiz, senior reporter focusing on racial injustice and social inequality, NBC News Ekow Yankah, professor of law and of philosophy and associate dean, University of Michigan Anthony Portantino, state senator, 25th district in Southern California -he authored Senate Bill 53, which would expand existing firearm safe storage laws. Senator Portantino authored California's safe storage law in 2019

James Crumbley, the father of the teenager responsible for a deadly shooting at Oxford High School in Michigan, has been convicted of involuntary manslaughter in a trial that concluded Thursday, marking a significant development in the legal aftermath of the tragic incident. The verdict, delivered more than two years after the shooting that claimed the lives of four students and left several others injured, carries a weighty maximum punishment of up to 15 years in prison for each count. Crumbley was found guilty on four counts of involuntary manslaughter, mirroring the charges previously faced by his wife, Jennifer Crumbley, who was convicted of the same charges last month. As the judge announced Crumbley's sentencing date for April 9th, emotions ran high in the courtroom. Crumbley, shackled and escorted out after the verdict, faced tearful family members of the victims, who found solace in the legal outcome. Prosecutors argued that Crumbley was culpable due to his "gross negligence," emphasizing his role in purchasing the firearm used by his son, Ethan Crumbley, just days before the attack. They pointed to his failure to secure the weapon, neglecting signs of his son's deteriorating mental health, and disregarding foreseeable dangers. "James Crumbley is not on trial for what his son did. James Crumbley is on trial for what he did and what he didn't do," remarked Oakland County Prosecuting Attorney Karen McDonald during closing arguments. In response, Crumbley's defense contended that the prosecution's case lacked substantial evidence, characterizing it as based on "assumptions and hindsight." They maintained that Crumbley had no knowledge of his son's intentions and argued against holding him responsible for the tragic events. The case against James and Jennifer Crumbley marks a notable shift in legal scrutiny, challenging the boundaries of parental responsibility in cases of mass shootings. By holding the parents directly accountable for the deaths, prosecutors have pushed the envelope of liability in such incidents. Jennifer Crumbley's guilty verdict, delivered last month, marked the first instance of a school shooter's parent being held directly responsible for the killings. Her sentencing, alongside her husband's, underscores the judicial response to preventable tragedies and seeks to bring closure to the families affected by the devastating loss. As the legal proceedings continue, the verdicts against the Crumbleys serve as a stark reminder of the profound impact of gun violence and the complexities surrounding accountability in such cases. Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK's Unconfessed Crimes, Delphi Murders: Inside the Crime, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Malevolent Mormon Mommys, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

In a compelling episode of "Hidden Killers With Tony Brueski," featuring Robin Dreeke, a retired FBI Special Agent, the trial of James Crumbley is scrutinized, following the conviction of his wife, Jennifer Crumbly, for her role in their son Ethan Crumbley's tragic actions at Oxford High School. Key points from their discussion include: Unique Trials: Although James faces similar charges to Jennifer, the trial may diverge due to their distinct roles in Ethan's life. The focus will likely be on James's specific involvement and knowledge of Ethan's actions and state of mind. Parental Responsibility and Firearms: The crux of the trial will examine the parents' responsibility in securing firearms and their awareness of Ethan's mental health issues, emphasizing the legal and moral obligations of gun ownership and parental oversight. Mental Health Awareness: A significant aspect of the trial will be the parents' response to Ethan's explicit cries for help, including a note indicating his distress and violent inclinations, raising questions about their awareness and actions regarding his mental health needs. Community and Systemic Failures: The conversation acknowledges broader failures, noting Ethan's clear pleas for assistance went unaddressed, highlighting a catastrophic breakdown in family, school, and possibly community support systems. Implications for Parental Accountability: This case may set a precedent for how the legal system addresses parental responsibility in their children's actions, especially concerning awareness and intervention in mental health issues and access to firearms. Jury Perception and Legal Strategy: The defense strategy, including the potential appointment of a special prosecutor due to procedural issues, aims to introduce doubt among jurors regarding the Crumbleys' culpability, emphasizing the legal nuances of "reasonable" parental actions. This episode delves deep into the tragic complexities surrounding the Oxford High School shooting, exploring the intersection of parental responsibility, mental health awareness, and legal accountability in the face of unimaginable violence. Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK's Unconfessed Crimes, Delphi Murders: Inside the Crime, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Malevolent Mormon Mommys, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com 

James Crumbley, the father of the teenager responsible for a deadly shooting at Oxford High School in Michigan, has been convicted of involuntary manslaughter in a trial that concluded Thursday, marking a significant development in the legal aftermath of the tragic incident. The verdict, delivered more than two years after the shooting that claimed the lives of four students and left several others injured, carries a weighty maximum punishment of up to 15 years in prison for each count. Crumbley was found guilty on four counts of involuntary manslaughter, mirroring the charges previously faced by his wife, Jennifer Crumbley, who was convicted of the same charges last month. As the judge announced Crumbley's sentencing date for April 9th, emotions ran high in the courtroom. Crumbley, shackled and escorted out after the verdict, faced tearful family members of the victims, who found solace in the legal outcome. Prosecutors argued that Crumbley was culpable due to his "gross negligence," emphasizing his role in purchasing the firearm used by his son, Ethan Crumbley, just days before the attack. They pointed to his failure to secure the weapon, neglecting signs of his son's deteriorating mental health, and disregarding foreseeable dangers. "James Crumbley is not on trial for what his son did. James Crumbley is on trial for what he did and what he didn't do," remarked Oakland County Prosecuting Attorney Karen McDonald during closing arguments. In response, Crumbley's defense contended that the prosecution's case lacked substantial evidence, characterizing it as based on "assumptions and hindsight." They maintained that Crumbley had no knowledge of his son's intentions and argued against holding him responsible for the tragic events. The case against James and Jennifer Crumbley marks a notable shift in legal scrutiny, challenging the boundaries of parental responsibility in cases of mass shootings. By holding the parents directly accountable for the deaths, prosecutors have pushed the envelope of liability in such incidents. Jennifer Crumbley's guilty verdict, delivered last month, marked the first instance of a school shooter's parent being held directly responsible for the killings. Her sentencing, alongside her husband's, underscores the judicial response to preventable tragedies and seeks to bring closure to the families affected by the devastating loss. As the legal proceedings continue, the verdicts against the Crumbleys serve as a stark reminder of the profound impact of gun violence and the complexities surrounding accountability in such cases. Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK's Unconfessed Crimes, Delphi Murders: Inside the Crime, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Malevolent Mormon Mommys, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

In a compelling episode of "Hidden Killers With Tony Brueski," featuring Robin Dreeke, a retired FBI Special Agent, the trial of James Crumbley is scrutinized, following the conviction of his wife, Jennifer Crumbly, for her role in their son Ethan Crumbley's tragic actions at Oxford High School. Key points from their discussion include: Unique Trials: Although James faces similar charges to Jennifer, the trial may diverge due to their distinct roles in Ethan's life. The focus will likely be on James's specific involvement and knowledge of Ethan's actions and state of mind. Parental Responsibility and Firearms: The crux of the trial will examine the parents' responsibility in securing firearms and their awareness of Ethan's mental health issues, emphasizing the legal and moral obligations of gun ownership and parental oversight. Mental Health Awareness: A significant aspect of the trial will be the parents' response to Ethan's explicit cries for help, including a note indicating his distress and violent inclinations, raising questions about their awareness and actions regarding his mental health needs. Community and Systemic Failures: The conversation acknowledges broader failures, noting Ethan's clear pleas for assistance went unaddressed, highlighting a catastrophic breakdown in family, school, and possibly community support systems. Implications for Parental Accountability: This case may set a precedent for how the legal system addresses parental responsibility in their children's actions, especially concerning awareness and intervention in mental health issues and access to firearms. Jury Perception and Legal Strategy: The defense strategy, including the potential appointment of a special prosecutor due to procedural issues, aims to introduce doubt among jurors regarding the Crumbleys' culpability, emphasizing the legal nuances of "reasonable" parental actions. This episode delves deep into the tragic complexities surrounding the Oxford High School shooting, exploring the intersection of parental responsibility, mental health awareness, and legal accountability in the face of unimaginable violence. Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK's Unconfessed Crimes, Delphi Murders: Inside the Crime, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Malevolent Mormon Mommys, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

Here's a special (limited-time) deal for our listeners. Right now, get 50% off a ONE-TIME PAYMENT FOR A LIFETIME Babbel subscription - but only for our listeners - at https://babbel.com/collier *Rules and restrictions may apply. James Crumbley Declines to Testify in His Involuntary Manslaughter Trial, unlike his wife, Jennifer Crumbley, who was convicted last month. Witness testimony in the trial ended on Wednesday. Mr. Crumbley faces involuntary manslaughter charges for the four students killed by his son, Ethan Crumbley. Testimony concluded Wednesday morning in the trial of James Crumbley, whose son carried out Michigan's deadliest school shooting more than two years ago and whose wife was convicted last month in the same courtroom for failing to prevent the rampage. Prosecutors took the rare step of seeking to hold the Crumbleys partially responsible for the shooting at Oxford High School on Nov. 30, 2021, in which their son, Ethan, who was 15 at the time, killed four people and injured seven others. “That nightmare was preventable, and it was foreseeable,” Marc Keast, an Oakland County prosecutor, said in an opening statement last week. He accused Mr. Crumbley of failing to secure the gun that his son used in the shooting. Mr. Crumbley has been jailed since December 2021, when he and his wife, Jennifer Crumbley, were each charged with four counts of involuntary manslaughter. They requested separate trials, and unlike his wife, Mr. Crumbley chose not to testify in his own defense. Link to this episode on YouTube: https://youtube.com/live/8-8tD0dqHZw Check out Collier Landry's links below! ➡️ Wanna say thanks for a great episode? https://www.buymeacoffee.com/collierlandry ➡️ Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/collierlandry ➡️ Check out my Merch Store: https://www.collierlandry.com/store ➡️ Amazon Affiliate Link: https://www.collierlandry.com/amazon ➡️ Become a Channel Member: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCYIJGxnTPGxaKRZc-Gq63iA/ • Sources used in this video may include public news sites, interviews, court documents, dedicated Facebook groups, and news channel segments. When quoting others, their statements are considered alleged until confirmed. It's important to note that my videos reflect my independent opinion, and I encourage you to do your own research. • Disclaimer: The views expressed in this video are personal and may not represent the official position of any agency, organization, employer, or company. The assumptions made are solely the creator's own. These views are subject to change and should not be considered permanent. I do not guarantee the accuracy, completeness, suitability, or validity of the information in this video, and I am not liable for any errors, omissions, or damages resulting from its use. All information is provided as-is. It is your responsibility to verify the facts. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In a bid for a fair trial, James Crumbley, the father of the Michigan school shooter, is seeking jurors from a different county to decide his involuntary manslaughter case. Amid concerns of excessive publicity and the recent conviction of his wife, defense attorney Mariell Lehman argued that the Crumbleys have already been "clearly convicted in the court of public opinion." James Crumbley, 47, stands accused of charges related to making a gun accessible to his son, Ethan Crumbley, and failing to secure mental health care for him. The tragic events unfolded when 15-year-old Ethan carried out a mass shooting at Oxford High School in 2021, resulting in the deaths of four students and injuries to others. The upcoming trial in Oakland County has raised significant challenges in securing an impartial jury due to the extensive media coverage and the recent conviction of James's wife, Jennifer Crumbley. Despite these hurdles, jury selection is scheduled for March 5, with the defense team advocating for jurors from a different county. The unusual move to seek jurors from elsewhere in Michigan reflects concerns about the potential influence of preconceived notions and biases stemming from the intense scrutiny surrounding the case. Oakland County, with its population of 1.27 million people, poses a unique challenge in ensuring an unbiased jury selection process. The issue of jury selection is expected to be addressed during an upcoming hearing before Judge Cheryl Matthews, where defense objections to certain witnesses and evidence will also be considered. Prosecutors, bound by a gag order, have previously opposed efforts to relocate the trial or bring in jurors from outside the county. The legal proceedings follow Jennifer Crumbley's conviction for involuntary manslaughter on February 6, with sentencing pending. Meanwhile, Ethan Crumbley, now 17, has pleaded guilty to murder and terrorism charges, receiving a life prison sentence with no chance for parole. Despite the complexities surrounding the case, both the defense and prosecution remain committed to ensuring a fair trial that upholds the principles of justice and accountability. With jury selection looming, the court faces the formidable task of assembling an impartial jury capable of rendering a verdict based solely on the evidence presented during the trial. As the community grapples with the aftermath of the tragic school shooting, the legal proceedings serve as a critical step towards addressing accountability and seeking justice for the victims and their families.   Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK's Unconfessed Crimes, Delphi Murders: Inside the Crime, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Malevolent Mormon Mommys, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

In a bid for a fair trial, James Crumbley, the father of the Michigan school shooter, is seeking jurors from a different county to decide his involuntary manslaughter case. Amid concerns of excessive publicity and the recent conviction of his wife, defense attorney Mariell Lehman argued that the Crumbleys have already been "clearly convicted in the court of public opinion." James Crumbley, 47, stands accused of charges related to making a gun accessible to his son, Ethan Crumbley, and failing to secure mental health care for him. The tragic events unfolded when 15-year-old Ethan carried out a mass shooting at Oxford High School in 2021, resulting in the deaths of four students and injuries to others. The upcoming trial in Oakland County has raised significant challenges in securing an impartial jury due to the extensive media coverage and the recent conviction of James's wife, Jennifer Crumbley. Despite these hurdles, jury selection is scheduled for March 5, with the defense team advocating for jurors from a different county. The unusual move to seek jurors from elsewhere in Michigan reflects concerns about the potential influence of preconceived notions and biases stemming from the intense scrutiny surrounding the case. Oakland County, with its population of 1.27 million people, poses a unique challenge in ensuring an unbiased jury selection process. The issue of jury selection is expected to be addressed during an upcoming hearing before Judge Cheryl Matthews, where defense objections to certain witnesses and evidence will also be considered. Prosecutors, bound by a gag order, have previously opposed efforts to relocate the trial or bring in jurors from outside the county. The legal proceedings follow Jennifer Crumbley's conviction for involuntary manslaughter on February 6, with sentencing pending. Meanwhile, Ethan Crumbley, now 17, has pleaded guilty to murder and terrorism charges, receiving a life prison sentence with no chance for parole. Despite the complexities surrounding the case, both the defense and prosecution remain committed to ensuring a fair trial that upholds the principles of justice and accountability. With jury selection looming, the court faces the formidable task of assembling an impartial jury capable of rendering a verdict based solely on the evidence presented during the trial. As the community grapples with the aftermath of the tragic school shooting, the legal proceedings serve as a critical step towards addressing accountability and seeking justice for the victims and their families.   Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK's Unconfessed Crimes, Delphi Murders: Inside the Crime, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Malevolent Mormon Mommys, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

In a landmark decision that may very well redraw the boundaries of parental responsibility in the face of school shootings, Jennifer Crumbley has been convicted of involuntary manslaughter for her indirect role in the harrowing tragedy at Oxford High School, Michigan, in 2021, where her son Ethan Crumbley fatally shot four students. This verdict, as Tony Brueski of the "Hidden Killers" podcast points out, is poised to echo through the corridors of justice for decades, potentially setting a new precedent for parental accountability. Brueski, in a compelling conversation with retired FBI Special Agent Robin Dreeke, delves into the multifaceted implications of this case. Dreeke, with his extensive experience in behavioral analysis, brings a unique perspective to the table, questioning the broader societal impacts of this verdict. "This really is a case that could set quite a bit of precedent," Brueski observed, highlighting the gravity of the situation. As the nation grapples with the aftermath of yet another school shooting, the Crumbley trial forces us to confront uncomfortable questions about the role parents play in preventing such tragedies. Dreeke, reflecting on the case, suggests that while it's crucial to hold parents like the Crumbleys accountable, the solution to preventing future incidents lies deeper within our societal fabric. "We've gotten away from community...from healthy interactions with other human beings," Dreeke lamented, emphasizing the importance of rebuilding those connections to mitigate the risk of such tragedies. The discussion between Brueski and Dreeke ventures into speculative territory, pondering whether this verdict will prompt a reevaluation of past cases where parents might have played a role in enabling their children's actions. With no statute of limitations on homicide in many jurisdictions, the door is open for potentially revisiting cases as far back as the Columbine and Parkland shootings. However, Dreeke warns that such actions could unearth trauma without necessarily providing closure or preventing future incidents. Moreover, the dialogue shifts towards the practicalities of enforcing this new precedent. Can good parenting or healthy relationships be legislated? Dreeke and Brueski wrestle with this question, acknowledging the challenges of implementing such a standard. Dreeke proposes a more holistic approach to addressing the issue, emphasizing the need for societal change that fosters healthier relationships and situational awareness to prevent these tragedies before they occur. Yet, as the conversation unfolds, it becomes clear that while the Crumbley verdict is a significant step towards holding parents accountable, it is but one piece of a much larger puzzle. The systemic issues that contribute to school shootings — from mental health support to gun access — remain daunting challenges that require comprehensive solutions beyond the courtroom. As Brueski and Dreeke conclude their discussion, the question remains: Will the Crumbley verdict indeed mark a turning point in how society addresses the complex interplay between parental responsibility, mental health, and school violence? Or will it simply become another chapter in the ongoing struggle to protect our children from the scourge of school shootings? The Crumbley case forces us to confront the uncomfortable reality that preventing such tragedies requires more than just legal accountability. It demands a collective effort to address the underlying issues that lead to school shootings. As we move forward, the dialogue sparked by this case offers a crucial opportunity to reflect on our societal values and the measures we are willing to take to ensure the safety of our children. The path ahead is fraught with challenges, but it is a journey we must undertake if we are to prevent future tragedies and build a safer, more connected society for all.  Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK's Unconfessed Crimes, Delphi Murders: Inside the Crime, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Malevolent Mormon Mommys, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

In a landmark decision that may very well redraw the boundaries of parental responsibility in the face of school shootings, Jennifer Crumbley has been convicted of involuntary manslaughter for her indirect role in the harrowing tragedy at Oxford High School, Michigan, in 2021, where her son Ethan Crumbley fatally shot four students. This verdict, as Tony Brueski of the "Hidden Killers" podcast points out, is poised to echo through the corridors of justice for decades, potentially setting a new precedent for parental accountability. Brueski, in a compelling conversation with retired FBI Special Agent Robin Dreeke, delves into the multifaceted implications of this case. Dreeke, with his extensive experience in behavioral analysis, brings a unique perspective to the table, questioning the broader societal impacts of this verdict. "This really is a case that could set quite a bit of precedent," Brueski observed, highlighting the gravity of the situation. As the nation grapples with the aftermath of yet another school shooting, the Crumbley trial forces us to confront uncomfortable questions about the role parents play in preventing such tragedies. Dreeke, reflecting on the case, suggests that while it's crucial to hold parents like the Crumbleys accountable, the solution to preventing future incidents lies deeper within our societal fabric. "We've gotten away from community...from healthy interactions with other human beings," Dreeke lamented, emphasizing the importance of rebuilding those connections to mitigate the risk of such tragedies. The discussion between Brueski and Dreeke ventures into speculative territory, pondering whether this verdict will prompt a reevaluation of past cases where parents might have played a role in enabling their children's actions. With no statute of limitations on homicide in many jurisdictions, the door is open for potentially revisiting cases as far back as the Columbine and Parkland shootings. However, Dreeke warns that such actions could unearth trauma without necessarily providing closure or preventing future incidents. Moreover, the dialogue shifts towards the practicalities of enforcing this new precedent. Can good parenting or healthy relationships be legislated? Dreeke and Brueski wrestle with this question, acknowledging the challenges of implementing such a standard. Dreeke proposes a more holistic approach to addressing the issue, emphasizing the need for societal change that fosters healthier relationships and situational awareness to prevent these tragedies before they occur. Yet, as the conversation unfolds, it becomes clear that while the Crumbley verdict is a significant step towards holding parents accountable, it is but one piece of a much larger puzzle. The systemic issues that contribute to school shootings — from mental health support to gun access — remain daunting challenges that require comprehensive solutions beyond the courtroom. As Brueski and Dreeke conclude their discussion, the question remains: Will the Crumbley verdict indeed mark a turning point in how society addresses the complex interplay between parental responsibility, mental health, and school violence? Or will it simply become another chapter in the ongoing struggle to protect our children from the scourge of school shootings? The Crumbley case forces us to confront the uncomfortable reality that preventing such tragedies requires more than just legal accountability. It demands a collective effort to address the underlying issues that lead to school shootings. As we move forward, the dialogue sparked by this case offers a crucial opportunity to reflect on our societal values and the measures we are willing to take to ensure the safety of our children. The path ahead is fraught with challenges, but it is a journey we must undertake if we are to prevent future tragedies and build a safer, more connected society for all.  Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK's Unconfessed Crimes, Delphi Murders: Inside the Crime, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Malevolent Mormon Mommys, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

As the nation watches the trial of Jennifer Crumbley unfold, a crucial question emerges: Are we on the verge of redefining parental responsibility in the wake of school shootings? This inquiry, catalyzed by the tragic events at Oxford High School and the subsequent legal proceedings against the Crumbleys, probes deep into the fabric of our societal norms and legal frameworks. Tony Brueski, in a compelling session on the "Hidden Killers" podcast with Bob Motta, defense attorney and host of "Defense Diaries," delves into the complexities surrounding the Crumbley case. This dialogue not only scrutinizes the actions of Jennifer and James Crumbley but also casts a broader net over the implications for parental accountability and the systemic failures that often precede such tragedies. At the heart of the discussion is the chilling evidence presented during the trial, notably Ethan Crumbley's distressing math paper, which should have served as a glaring red flag. Bob Motta echoes the sentiments of many, asserting that "everything else is the same, but instead of buying him a gun, they got him a car for him to use... But everything else... is the same." This hypothetical scenario sharpens the focus on the real issue at hand: the weapon is incidental to the broader question of recognizing and addressing a child's cry for help. The Crumbley trial exposes a harrowing truth: the intricate dance between parental rights to pursue personal interests and the paramount duty to safeguard their children's mental health and societal well-being. Motta challenges the narrative that engaging in hobbies such as horseback riding equates to neglect, a sentiment that resonates with many parents who strive to balance personal fulfillment with the demands of parenthood. Yet, the case against Jennifer Crumbley is laden with nuances that defy straightforward judgment. The involvement of school counselors, lacking in child psychology expertise, and the reliance on their reassurances, present a cautionary tale about misplaced trust in perceived authority. Motta's critique underscores a pivotal flaw in the system: the assumption that titles equate to expertise, a dangerous premise that can lead to catastrophic oversight. As the legal battle wages on, the potential for a precedent-setting verdict looms large. Motta speculates on the ramifications of a guilty outcome, pondering the floodgates it may open for prosecuting parents in similar future cases or even revisiting past incidents. This prospect raises profound ethical and legal dilemmas about the extent of parental culpability and the mechanisms for preventing youth violence. The conversation ventures into the realm of hypotheticals, touching on scenarios where parents of gang members or those who inadvertently enable their children through other means, such as providing a vehicle, could face legal scrutiny. These speculations not only highlight the gun issue but also probe deeper into the societal and cultural factors that shape our perceptions of responsibility and accountability. Amidst this legal and moral quagmire, Motta and Brueski touch upon a critical yet often overlooked aspect of the debate: the availability of resources for parents grappling with troubled teens. The stark reality is that many families, particularly those living at or below the median income level, lack access to the necessary mental health services that could potentially avert tragedies. As the Crumbley trial progresses, it becomes a mirror reflecting the multifaceted challenges confronting our society: from the nuances of parental responsibility to the inadequacies of our mental health support systems. It beckons us to ponder not just the fate of the Crumbleys but the broader implications for all parents navigating the turbulent waters of raising children in an increasingly complex world. In the aftermath of this landmark case, one question remains tantalizingly unanswered: How will we, as a society, rise to the challenge of safeguarding our children while equipping parents with the tools and resources they desperately need? As we contemplate this, the trial of Jennifer Crumbley stands not only as a legal battle but as a pivotal moment in our collective quest for answers in the face of unspeakable tragedy. Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK's Unconfessed Crimes, Delphi Murders: Inside the Crime, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Malevolent Mormon Mommys, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

As the nation watches the trial of Jennifer Crumbley unfold, a crucial question emerges: Are we on the verge of redefining parental responsibility in the wake of school shootings? This inquiry, catalyzed by the tragic events at Oxford High School and the subsequent legal proceedings against the Crumbleys, probes deep into the fabric of our societal norms and legal frameworks. Tony Brueski, in a compelling session on the "Hidden Killers" podcast with Bob Motta, defense attorney and host of "Defense Diaries," delves into the complexities surrounding the Crumbley case. This dialogue not only scrutinizes the actions of Jennifer and James Crumbley but also casts a broader net over the implications for parental accountability and the systemic failures that often precede such tragedies. At the heart of the discussion is the chilling evidence presented during the trial, notably Ethan Crumbley's distressing math paper, which should have served as a glaring red flag. Bob Motta echoes the sentiments of many, asserting that "everything else is the same, but instead of buying him a gun, they got him a car for him to use... But everything else... is the same." This hypothetical scenario sharpens the focus on the real issue at hand: the weapon is incidental to the broader question of recognizing and addressing a child's cry for help. The Crumbley trial exposes a harrowing truth: the intricate dance between parental rights to pursue personal interests and the paramount duty to safeguard their children's mental health and societal well-being. Motta challenges the narrative that engaging in hobbies such as horseback riding equates to neglect, a sentiment that resonates with many parents who strive to balance personal fulfillment with the demands of parenthood. Yet, the case against Jennifer Crumbley is laden with nuances that defy straightforward judgment. The involvement of school counselors, lacking in child psychology expertise, and the reliance on their reassurances, present a cautionary tale about misplaced trust in perceived authority. Motta's critique underscores a pivotal flaw in the system: the assumption that titles equate to expertise, a dangerous premise that can lead to catastrophic oversight. As the legal battle wages on, the potential for a precedent-setting verdict looms large. Motta speculates on the ramifications of a guilty outcome, pondering the floodgates it may open for prosecuting parents in similar future cases or even revisiting past incidents. This prospect raises profound ethical and legal dilemmas about the extent of parental culpability and the mechanisms for preventing youth violence. The conversation ventures into the realm of hypotheticals, touching on scenarios where parents of gang members or those who inadvertently enable their children through other means, such as providing a vehicle, could face legal scrutiny. These speculations not only highlight the gun issue but also probe deeper into the societal and cultural factors that shape our perceptions of responsibility and accountability. Amidst this legal and moral quagmire, Motta and Brueski touch upon a critical yet often overlooked aspect of the debate: the availability of resources for parents grappling with troubled teens. The stark reality is that many families, particularly those living at or below the median income level, lack access to the necessary mental health services that could potentially avert tragedies. As the Crumbley trial progresses, it becomes a mirror reflecting the multifaceted challenges confronting our society: from the nuances of parental responsibility to the inadequacies of our mental health support systems. It beckons us to ponder not just the fate of the Crumbleys but the broader implications for all parents navigating the turbulent waters of raising children in an increasingly complex world. In the aftermath of this landmark case, one question remains tantalizingly unanswered: How will we, as a society, rise to the challenge of safeguarding our children while equipping parents with the tools and resources they desperately need? As we contemplate this, the trial of Jennifer Crumbley stands not only as a legal battle but as a pivotal moment in our collective quest for answers in the face of unspeakable tragedy. Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK's Unconfessed Crimes, Delphi Murders: Inside the Crime, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Malevolent Mormon Mommys, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

Could the tragic school shooting at Oxford High School, perpetrated by Ethan Crumbley, become the legal linchpin that redefines parental accountability? This pressing question sits at the heart of Jennifer Crumbley's ongoing trial, as she faces involuntary manslaughter charges for her alleged role in her son's actions. The case, underscored by Tony Brueski in conversation with Defense Attorney Bob Motta on the "Hidden Killers" podcast, delves into uncharted legal and ethical territory. Bob Motta, a voice of authority and reason in the legal community, shared his insights into a trial that could potentially "change the fabric of our society." As we dissect the layers of this landmark case, the discourse oscillates between legal precedent and the profound societal implications of holding parents criminally responsible for their children's violent crimes. At the core of the prosecution's argument against Jennifer Crumbley is the notion of negligence. The state posits that the warning signs were glaring, yet Jennifer's actions—or lack thereof—failed to prevent the impending tragedy. Motta and Brueski challenge this narrative, exploring the nuanced reality that parenting, especially in crisis, is fraught with complexity and uncertainty. The defense's spotlight on Jennifer Crumbley's hobbies, particularly her affinity for horses, has sparked a debate on whether pursuing personal interests can or should be construed as neglect. Motta offers a poignant analogy, comparing the Crumbleys' situation to any parent who might momentarily prioritize their passions or responsibilities over direct supervision of their children. This comparison lays bare the delicate balance between parental autonomy and duty. As the conversation unfolds, the focus shifts to the school's response to Ethan Crumbley's alarming behavior. Motta critiques the lack of expertise among school counselors in child psychology, questioning the reliability of their reassurances to Jennifer Crumbley. This critical examination underscores a broader issue: the misplaced trust in perceived authorities and the dire consequences of such misjudgments. Motta articulates a compelling perspective on the day of the shooting, emphasizing the missed opportunities for intervention. The chilling discovery of Ethan's disturbing drawings and messages—cries for help that went unheeded—marks a pivotal failure by both the Crumbleys and the school. This moment, for Motta, crystallizes the argument for Jennifer's accountability, yet he also acknowledges the systemic failures that allowed this tragedy to unfold. Looking ahead, the discussion turns to James Crumbley, slated for trial in the coming months. Motta posits that the case against him may be weaker, given the lack of direct communication and involvement with Ethan's deteriorating mental state. The strategic decision by prosecutors to try Jennifer Crumbley first suggests they deemed her case stronger, yet the outcome of her trial could significantly influence the approach to James's case. As we navigate this legal and moral maze, several questions loom large: Can the trial of Jennifer Crumbley indeed set a new precedent for parental responsibility? More importantly, how do we reconcile the instinct to protect our children with the imperative to recognize and act upon signs of distress? The Crumbley trial forces us to confront these questions, challenging us to redefine the boundaries of accountability in an era marked by recurring school shootings. In closing, the Crumbley trial not only seeks justice for the victims of the Oxford High School shooting but also prompts a profound reevaluation of parental oversight in the shadow of potential violence. As society grapples with these issues, one cannot help but wonder: Will this case be the catalyst for a seismic shift in our understanding of parental duty, or will it simply raise more questions than it answers? Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK's Unconfessed Crimes, Delphi Murders: Inside the Crime, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Malevolent Mormon Mommys, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

Could the tragic school shooting at Oxford High School, perpetrated by Ethan Crumbley, become the legal linchpin that redefines parental accountability? This pressing question sits at the heart of Jennifer Crumbley's ongoing trial, as she faces involuntary manslaughter charges for her alleged role in her son's actions. The case, underscored by Tony Brueski in conversation with Defense Attorney Bob Motta on the "Hidden Killers" podcast, delves into uncharted legal and ethical territory. Bob Motta, a voice of authority and reason in the legal community, shared his insights into a trial that could potentially "change the fabric of our society." As we dissect the layers of this landmark case, the discourse oscillates between legal precedent and the profound societal implications of holding parents criminally responsible for their children's violent crimes. At the core of the prosecution's argument against Jennifer Crumbley is the notion of negligence. The state posits that the warning signs were glaring, yet Jennifer's actions—or lack thereof—failed to prevent the impending tragedy. Motta and Brueski challenge this narrative, exploring the nuanced reality that parenting, especially in crisis, is fraught with complexity and uncertainty. The defense's spotlight on Jennifer Crumbley's hobbies, particularly her affinity for horses, has sparked a debate on whether pursuing personal interests can or should be construed as neglect. Motta offers a poignant analogy, comparing the Crumbleys' situation to any parent who might momentarily prioritize their passions or responsibilities over direct supervision of their children. This comparison lays bare the delicate balance between parental autonomy and duty. As the conversation unfolds, the focus shifts to the school's response to Ethan Crumbley's alarming behavior. Motta critiques the lack of expertise among school counselors in child psychology, questioning the reliability of their reassurances to Jennifer Crumbley. This critical examination underscores a broader issue: the misplaced trust in perceived authorities and the dire consequences of such misjudgments. Motta articulates a compelling perspective on the day of the shooting, emphasizing the missed opportunities for intervention. The chilling discovery of Ethan's disturbing drawings and messages—cries for help that went unheeded—marks a pivotal failure by both the Crumbleys and the school. This moment, for Motta, crystallizes the argument for Jennifer's accountability, yet he also acknowledges the systemic failures that allowed this tragedy to unfold. Looking ahead, the discussion turns to James Crumbley, slated for trial in the coming months. Motta posits that the case against him may be weaker, given the lack of direct communication and involvement with Ethan's deteriorating mental state. The strategic decision by prosecutors to try Jennifer Crumbley first suggests they deemed her case stronger, yet the outcome of her trial could significantly influence the approach to James's case. As we navigate this legal and moral maze, several questions loom large: Can the trial of Jennifer Crumbley indeed set a new precedent for parental responsibility? More importantly, how do we reconcile the instinct to protect our children with the imperative to recognize and act upon signs of distress? The Crumbley trial forces us to confront these questions, challenging us to redefine the boundaries of accountability in an era marked by recurring school shootings. In closing, the Crumbley trial not only seeks justice for the victims of the Oxford High School shooting but also prompts a profound reevaluation of parental oversight in the shadow of potential violence. As society grapples with these issues, one cannot help but wonder: Will this case be the catalyst for a seismic shift in our understanding of parental duty, or will it simply raise more questions than it answers? Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK's Unconfessed Crimes, Delphi Murders: Inside the Crime, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Malevolent Mormon Mommys, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

Jennifer Crumbley becomes the first parent in the United States to be found guilty of involuntary manslaughter for a mass school shooting committed by her son, Ethan. She was convicted of four counts of involuntary manslaughter and faces a maxium sentence of 60 years in prison. Prosecutors said Jennifer Crumbley knew her son was struggling with mental health issues. They alleged instead of getting him the help he needed, Jennifer and her husband, James Crumbley, bought Ethan the gun he later used in the attack. The prosecution also showed the Crumbleys were attempting to flee when they realized they were going to be charged in the crime. James Crumbley faces the same charges as his wife, on March 5.   Joining Nancy Grace Today: Kathleen Murphy - North Carolina, Family Attorney, TriangleDivorceLawyers.com Dr. Bethany Marshall - Psychoanalyst, drbethanymarshall.com, Instagram & TikTok: drbethanymarshall, Twitter: @DrBethanyLive, appearing in the new season of “Paris in Love” on Peacock  Sheryl McCollum - Cold Case Investigative Research Institute Founder, ColdCaseCrimes.org, Host of new podcast: Zone 7, Twitter: @ColdCaseTips  Dr. Jeffrey M. Jentzen - Professor of Forensic Pathology and Director of Autopsy and Forensic Services at the University of Michigan Medical School, former Medical Examiner in Milwaukee County, Wisconsin Cassidy Johncox - Senior Digital News Editor for ClickOnDetroit, ClickOnDetroit.com, X: @cassidyjohncox  Elisa Mula - EMD Physical Security Strategist, Child/School Safety & Security expert & advocate, elisamula.com, Twitter: @EMDNYC1, IG: @emd_nyc, YT: @emd6271  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Could the trial of Jennifer Crumbley, charged with involuntary manslaughter after her son Ethan's devastating attack at Oxford High School, redefine parental responsibility in the wake of school shootings? This critical question resonates deeply as the legal proceedings against the Crumbleys unfold, potentially setting a groundbreaking precedent for how society addresses the complex interplay between gun ownership, parental oversight, and the tragic outcomes of school violence. Jennifer Coffindaffer, a retired FBI Special Agent and contributor to the "Hidden Killers" podcast, joined host Tony Brueski to dissect the implications of this landmark case. "This will be a huge precedent if it's set," Coffindaffer remarked, highlighting the case's potential to scrutinize not just the Crumbleys but any parent whose actions—or inactions—might enable a child to commit such heinous acts. The core of the prosecution's argument hinges on the assertion of gross negligence on the part of Jennifer and James Crumbley, accused of providing their son with a firearm despite his evident psychological distress. Coffindaffer's analysis paints a picture of parents who, metaphorically, buried their heads in the sand, ignoring glaring signs of their son's homicidal ideation. "They just didn't know who their son was at all, and maybe didn't even care," she observed, critiquing the Crumbleys' apparent disengagement from their son's escalating crisis. The conversation also ventured into the broader societal and legal ramifications of holding parents criminally accountable for their children's actions. The discussion pondered the potential for this case to extend beyond school shootings, questioning whether parents of individuals who commit other forms of mass violence might also face scrutiny. Coffindaffer raised the concern of a slippery slope, asking, "Where does it stop?" Moreover, Coffindaffer drew parallels between the Crumbley case and other instances where familial responsibility for criminal acts has been debated, such as the case of accused serial killer Bryan Kohberger. She highlighted the challenges of attributing blame to parents for the actions of adult children, emphasizing the complexities of discerning when parental responsibility should translate into legal liability. The conversation underscored the difficulty of navigating these uncharted waters, particularly when faced with tragic outcomes like those at Oxford High School. The Crumbleys' alleged failure to act upon their son's distress signals, coupled with their decision to provide him with a firearm, forms a chilling narrative of missed opportunities for intervention. "Without their actions, Tony, without their negligence, those four students would be alive," Coffindaffer poignantly noted, reminding listeners of the human cost at the heart of this legal debate. Yet, as Brueski and Coffindaffer explored, the case also touches on broader issues of mental health awareness and the societal impulse to find blame in the aftermath of tragedy. The discussion highlighted the importance of understanding and addressing the underlying factors that contribute to such catastrophic events, beyond simply assigning legal culpability. As the trial progresses, the potential conviction of Jennifer Crumbley looms as a momentous decision that could reverberate through legal, societal, and familial realms. The Crumbley case asks us to consider the limits of parental oversight, the responsibilities of gun ownership, and the ways in which society can prevent future tragedies. In navigating this complex landscape, one question remains paramount: How can we balance the need for accountability with the recognition of the myriad challenges facing parents and guardians in today's tumultuous world? As we ponder this, the Crumbley trial may very well chart a new course in our collective effort to safeguard our schools and communities from the scourge of violence. Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK's Unconfessed Crimes, Delphi Murders: Inside the Crime, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Malevolent Mormon Mommys, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

In a pivotal moment that could reshape our understanding of parental accountability, Jennifer Crumbley, alongside her husband James, faces involuntary manslaughter charges in connection to a tragic school shooting executed by their 15-year-old son, Ethan Crumbley, at Oxford High School in Michigan in November 2021. This case, potentially precedent-setting, challenges us to examine the extent of influence and responsibility parents hold in their children's actions, especially when those actions lead to catastrophic outcomes. Tony Brueski, in his podcast "Hidden Killers," engaged with Robin Dreeke, a retired FBI Special Agent and former Chief of the Counterintelligence Behavioral Analysis Program, to delve into the intricate layers of this case and its possible long-reaching effects, both retrospective and prospective. "How much influence, how much assistance, or lack thereof, did the parents play?" Brueski posed, highlighting the essence of the debate surrounding the Crumbleys. Dreeke emphasized the importance of scrutinizing the roles of those in a child's immediate environment, especially parents who are in a position to observe and respond to warning signs. "There are a lot of signs that unhealthy people give off, and this child was giving off a lot of them, and the parents knew about it," he stated. The case against Jennifer Crumbley is bolstered by evidence, including text messages and her presence at the school on the day of the shooting, raising questions about her awareness of her son's mental health issues and the appropriateness of her response—or lack thereof. This situation invites a broader discussion on parental responsibility and the societal expectation for parents to actively engage in preventing potential harm caused by their children. Dreeke referenced historical practices, such as those during the era of Genghis Khan, where family members shared collective responsibility for the actions of individuals within their household, suggesting a framework where closer scrutiny of family dynamics and accountability might be warranted in modern times. The debate extends beyond the legal ramifications for the Crumbleys to a moral and societal inquiry about the extent to which parents should be held responsible for their children's actions. "You know, people really in our society in the last bunch of years have... shuffled the responsibility of raising their children off on someone else," Dreeke remarked, underlining the need for a return to a more engaged and responsible form of parenting. However, the conversation also acknowledged the complexity of such cases. Not every instance of a child's wrongdoing can be directly attributed to parental negligence or lack of intervention. There are cases where despite a healthy and supportive environment, an individual may still choose a path of violence and destruction. This raises the question of how to distinguish between these scenarios and determine the appropriate level of parental accountability. As the legal proceedings against Jennifer and James Crumbley unfold, the outcome may indeed set a legal precedent, influencing how similar cases are viewed and handled in the future. Yet, as Dreeke and Brueski discussed, the implications of such a precedent are nuanced and multifaceted, encompassing legal, moral, and societal dimensions. The Crumbley case forces us to confront uncomfortable questions about parental responsibility, mental health awareness, and the societal mechanisms in place to prevent such tragedies. As Dreeke concluded, the investigation into Jennifer Crumbley's actions and awareness could offer insights into how society might better address these challenges, focusing not solely on the parental role but on the broader context of awareness and action in the face of potential violence. This case beckons us to ponder: If a precedent is set, where do we draw the line between parental oversight and intrusion, between guidance and control? And crucially, how can society support parents in navigating this complex terrain, ensuring the safety of all while fostering a nurturing and healthy environment for the next generation? Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK's Unconfessed Crimes, Delphi Murders: Inside the Crime, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Malevolent Mormon Mommys, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

In the wake of numerous tragic school shootings across the United States, a pressing question emerges: Should parents be held criminally responsible for the actions of their children? This debate has been reignited by the ongoing trial of Jennifer Crumbley, the mother of the teenager who carried out a deadly shooting at Oxford High School in Michigan in November 2021. Facing involuntary manslaughter charges, the case against Crumbley could set a significant legal precedent, underscoring the responsibility parents might bear for their children's actions. Tony Brueski, host of the podcast "Hidden Killers," alongside attorney and former felony prosecutor Eric Faddis, delved into the complexities of this landmark case. "This trial is very interesting, one we have not seen before with this sort of a dynamic," Brueski remarked. The crux of their conversation revolved around the potential implications of the Crumbley trial for future cases and the broader societal obligation of parents to monitor their children's activities and mental health closely. The prosecution's challenge in the Crumbley case lies in proving causation and the parents' knowledge or willful ignorance of their son's violent tendencies. "The prosecutor is going to have to prove that the Crumbleys' actions had a causal relationship with this school shooting," Faddis explained. This entails demonstrating that the parents knew or should have known of their child's proclivity for violence and yet facilitated his access to a firearm. However, the discussion raised concerns about where to draw the line in holding parents accountable. "Parenting is hard as shit," Faddis candidly observed, highlighting the inherent challenges in navigating a child's mental health issues and the potential for unjust criminal prosecution of parents who may be struggling themselves. The dialogue underscored the nuanced distinction between negligence and criminal liability, questioning whether the prosecution of parents like the Crumbleys could indeed deter future tragedies. Brueski and Faddis also touched upon the broader issue of mental health care accessibility and the societal tendency to seek simple solutions for complex problems. "We need to get a grip on the importance of mental health in our country, not just a grip on, let's try and punish everyone we possibly can," Brueski argued, suggesting that punitive measures against parents might not address the root causes of such devastating events. The conversation ventured into the potential for retroactive prosecution, should the Crumbley case set a new legal standard. "If Jennifer Crumbley, the mother, is convicted, do they then go back to... Dylan Klebold's mother from Columbine?" Faddis pondered, illustrating the slippery slope of applying this precedent broadly and the ethical implications of revisiting past tragedies through a new legal lens. Ultimately, Brueski and Faddis highlighted the delicate balance between ensuring accountability and recognizing the multifaceted challenges parents face, especially those with limited resources or knowledge. The discussion concluded on a note of caution, emphasizing the need for a thoughtful, comprehensive approach to preventing school shootings that goes beyond simply holding parents criminally responsible. As the Crumbley trial unfolds, it prompts us to reflect on the broader societal responsibilities we share in preventing such tragedies. The questions raised in the "Hidden Killers" podcast leave us pondering: Can, and should, the law compel parents to be the frontline defense against school shootings, or does the solution lie in addressing the deeper issues of mental health care, firearm access, and societal support for struggling families? Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK's Unconfessed Crimes, Delphi Murders: Inside the Crime, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Malevolent Mormon Mommys, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

A significant development unfolded in the case of the 2021 Oxford High School shooting as a jury has delivered a verdict in the trial of Jennifer Crumbley, the mother of the teenage perpetrator responsible for the tragic incident that claimed the lives of four students and left seven others injured. Jennifer Crumbley has been convicted of four counts of involuntary manslaughter, marking a crucial step in this high-profile case. The verdict carries significant consequences, with Jennifer Crumbley now facing a potential sentence of up to 60 years in prison. The court has scheduled her sentencing for April 9, where her fate will be determined. Her husband, James Crumbley, is set to stand trial on identical charges in March, making them unique in being the first parents of a school shooter to face trial under allegations that they may have played a role in their son's actions through negligence or disregarding potential threats. This development comes after Jennifer and James Crumbley's 17-year-old son received a life sentence without the possibility of parole in December. The younger Crumbley had previously pleaded guilty to a total of 24 charges, including first-degree murder and terrorism, for his role in the tragic events at Oxford High School. Prosecutors have argued that the Crumbleys allowed their son access to a firearm and failed to exercise the "reasonable care" necessary to prevent him from intentionally harming others. They presented evidence suggesting that the parents were aware of concerning signs exhibited by their son before the shooting took place. Months before the incident, the teenage shooter had reported hallucinations to his parents and had asked for help. Additionally, he confided in a friend that Jennifer had laughed at his troubles, while James had responded by telling him to "suck it up." The prosecution also highlighted the circumstances leading up to the shooting. James Crumbley purchased the firearm used in the attack just three days before the tragic event, violating regulations by gifting it to his son and signing a form stating that it was illegal to buy a firearm for someone else. Jennifer Crumbley further contributed to the situation by bringing her son to a shooting range the day after the firearm purchase. The day of the shooting itself brought a series of alarming events. The Crumbleys were called to Oxford High School for a meeting with a counselor after their son was caught watching a shooting video on his phone, followed by the discovery of disturbing drawings and writings. The counselor recommended removing him from school and immediate medical attention, but the parents declined. Tragically, just two hours later, the shooter opened fire, claiming the lives of Madisyn Baldwin, Justin Shilling, Tate Myre, and Hana St. Juliana. The verdict in Jennifer Crumbley's trial marks a significant moment in a case that has garnered widespread attention and raised critical questions about parental responsibility in such tragic events. As the legal process unfolds, the community continues to grapple with the profound impact of the Oxford High School shooting. Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK's Unconfessed Crimes, Delphi Murders: Inside the Crime, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Malevolent Mormon Mommys, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

A significant development unfolded in the case of the 2021 Oxford High School shooting as a jury has delivered a verdict in the trial of Jennifer Crumbley, the mother of the teenage perpetrator responsible for the tragic incident that claimed the lives of four students and left seven others injured. Jennifer Crumbley has been convicted of four counts of involuntary manslaughter, marking a crucial step in this high-profile case. The verdict carries significant consequences, with Jennifer Crumbley now facing a potential sentence of up to 60 years in prison. The court has scheduled her sentencing for April 9, where her fate will be determined. Her husband, James Crumbley, is set to stand trial on identical charges in March, making them unique in being the first parents of a school shooter to face trial under allegations that they may have played a role in their son's actions through negligence or disregarding potential threats. This development comes after Jennifer and James Crumbley's 17-year-old son received a life sentence without the possibility of parole in December. The younger Crumbley had previously pleaded guilty to a total of 24 charges, including first-degree murder and terrorism, for his role in the tragic events at Oxford High School. Prosecutors have argued that the Crumbleys allowed their son access to a firearm and failed to exercise the "reasonable care" necessary to prevent him from intentionally harming others. They presented evidence suggesting that the parents were aware of concerning signs exhibited by their son before the shooting took place. Months before the incident, the teenage shooter had reported hallucinations to his parents and had asked for help. Additionally, he confided in a friend that Jennifer had laughed at his troubles, while James had responded by telling him to "suck it up." The prosecution also highlighted the circumstances leading up to the shooting. James Crumbley purchased the firearm used in the attack just three days before the tragic event, violating regulations by gifting it to his son and signing a form stating that it was illegal to buy a firearm for someone else. Jennifer Crumbley further contributed to the situation by bringing her son to a shooting range the day after the firearm purchase. The day of the shooting itself brought a series of alarming events. The Crumbleys were called to Oxford High School for a meeting with a counselor after their son was caught watching a shooting video on his phone, followed by the discovery of disturbing drawings and writings. The counselor recommended removing him from school and immediate medical attention, but the parents declined. Tragically, just two hours later, the shooter opened fire, claiming the lives of Madisyn Baldwin, Justin Shilling, Tate Myre, and Hana St. Juliana. The verdict in Jennifer Crumbley's trial marks a significant moment in a case that has garnered widespread attention and raised critical questions about parental responsibility in such tragic events. As the legal process unfolds, the community continues to grapple with the profound impact of the Oxford High School shooting. Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK's Unconfessed Crimes, Delphi Murders: Inside the Crime, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Malevolent Mormon Mommys, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

In a pivotal moment that could reshape our understanding of parental accountability, Jennifer Crumbley, alongside her husband James, faces involuntary manslaughter charges in connection to a tragic school shooting executed by their 15-year-old son, Ethan Crumbley, at Oxford High School in Michigan in November 2021. This case, potentially precedent-setting, challenges us to examine the extent of influence and responsibility parents hold in their children's actions, especially when those actions lead to catastrophic outcomes. Tony Brueski, in his podcast "Hidden Killers," engaged with Robin Dreeke, a retired FBI Special Agent and former Chief of the Counterintelligence Behavioral Analysis Program, to delve into the intricate layers of this case and its possible long-reaching effects, both retrospective and prospective. "How much influence, how much assistance, or lack thereof, did the parents play?" Brueski posed, highlighting the essence of the debate surrounding the Crumbleys. Dreeke emphasized the importance of scrutinizing the roles of those in a child's immediate environment, especially parents who are in a position to observe and respond to warning signs. "There are a lot of signs that unhealthy people give off, and this child was giving off a lot of them, and the parents knew about it," he stated. The case against Jennifer Crumbley is bolstered by evidence, including text messages and her presence at the school on the day of the shooting, raising questions about her awareness of her son's mental health issues and the appropriateness of her response—or lack thereof. This situation invites a broader discussion on parental responsibility and the societal expectation for parents to actively engage in preventing potential harm caused by their children. Dreeke referenced historical practices, such as those during the era of Genghis Khan, where family members shared collective responsibility for the actions of individuals within their household, suggesting a framework where closer scrutiny of family dynamics and accountability might be warranted in modern times. The debate extends beyond the legal ramifications for the Crumbleys to a moral and societal inquiry about the extent to which parents should be held responsible for their children's actions. "You know, people really in our society in the last bunch of years have... shuffled the responsibility of raising their children off on someone else," Dreeke remarked, underlining the need for a return to a more engaged and responsible form of parenting. However, the conversation also acknowledged the complexity of such cases. Not every instance of a child's wrongdoing can be directly attributed to parental negligence or lack of intervention. There are cases where despite a healthy and supportive environment, an individual may still choose a path of violence and destruction. This raises the question of how to distinguish between these scenarios and determine the appropriate level of parental accountability. As the legal proceedings against Jennifer and James Crumbley unfold, the outcome may indeed set a legal precedent, influencing how similar cases are viewed and handled in the future. Yet, as Dreeke and Brueski discussed, the implications of such a precedent are nuanced and multifaceted, encompassing legal, moral, and societal dimensions. The Crumbley case forces us to confront uncomfortable questions about parental responsibility, mental health awareness, and the societal mechanisms in place to prevent such tragedies. As Dreeke concluded, the investigation into Jennifer Crumbley's actions and awareness could offer insights into how society might better address these challenges, focusing not solely on the parental role but on the broader context of awareness and action in the face of potential violence. This case beckons us to ponder: If a precedent is set, where do we draw the line between parental oversight and intrusion, between guidance and control? And crucially, how can society support parents in navigating this complex terrain, ensuring the safety of all while fostering a nurturing and healthy environment for the next generation? Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK's Unconfessed Crimes, Delphi Murders: Inside the Crime, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Malevolent Mormon Mommys, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

A significant development unfolded in the case of the 2021 Oxford High School shooting as a jury has delivered a verdict in the trial of Jennifer Crumbley, the mother of the teenage perpetrator responsible for the tragic incident that claimed the lives of four students and left seven others injured. Jennifer Crumbley has been convicted of four counts of involuntary manslaughter, marking a crucial step in this high-profile case. The verdict carries significant consequences, with Jennifer Crumbley now facing a potential sentence of up to 60 years in prison. The court has scheduled her sentencing for April 9, where her fate will be determined. Her husband, James Crumbley, is set to stand trial on identical charges in March, making them unique in being the first parents of a school shooter to face trial under allegations that they may have played a role in their son's actions through negligence or disregarding potential threats. This development comes after Jennifer and James Crumbley's 17-year-old son received a life sentence without the possibility of parole in December. The younger Crumbley had previously pleaded guilty to a total of 24 charges, including first-degree murder and terrorism, for his role in the tragic events at Oxford High School. Prosecutors have argued that the Crumbleys allowed their son access to a firearm and failed to exercise the "reasonable care" necessary to prevent him from intentionally harming others. They presented evidence suggesting that the parents were aware of concerning signs exhibited by their son before the shooting took place. Months before the incident, the teenage shooter had reported hallucinations to his parents and had asked for help. Additionally, he confided in a friend that Jennifer had laughed at his troubles, while James had responded by telling him to "suck it up." The prosecution also highlighted the circumstances leading up to the shooting. James Crumbley purchased the firearm used in the attack just three days before the tragic event, violating regulations by gifting it to his son and signing a form stating that it was illegal to buy a firearm for someone else. Jennifer Crumbley further contributed to the situation by bringing her son to a shooting range the day after the firearm purchase. The day of the shooting itself brought a series of alarming events. The Crumbleys were called to Oxford High School for a meeting with a counselor after their son was caught watching a shooting video on his phone, followed by the discovery of disturbing drawings and writings. The counselor recommended removing him from school and immediate medical attention, but the parents declined. Tragically, just two hours later, the shooter opened fire, claiming the lives of Madisyn Baldwin, Justin Shilling, Tate Myre, and Hana St. Juliana. The verdict in Jennifer Crumbley's trial marks a significant moment in a case that has garnered widespread attention and raised critical questions about parental responsibility in such tragic events. As the legal process unfolds, the community continues to grapple with the profound impact of the Oxford High School shooting. Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK's Unconfessed Crimes, Delphi Murders: Inside the Crime, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Malevolent Mormon Mommys, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

A significant development unfolded in the case of the 2021 Oxford High School shooting as a jury has delivered a verdict in the trial of Jennifer Crumbley, the mother of the teenage perpetrator responsible for the tragic incident that claimed the lives of four students and left seven others injured. Jennifer Crumbley has been convicted of four counts of involuntary manslaughter, marking a crucial step in this high-profile case. The verdict carries significant consequences, with Jennifer Crumbley now facing a potential sentence of up to 60 years in prison. The court has scheduled her sentencing for April 9, where her fate will be determined. Her husband, James Crumbley, is set to stand trial on identical charges in March, making them unique in being the first parents of a school shooter to face trial under allegations that they may have played a role in their son's actions through negligence or disregarding potential threats. This development comes after Jennifer and James Crumbley's 17-year-old son received a life sentence without the possibility of parole in December. The younger Crumbley had previously pleaded guilty to a total of 24 charges, including first-degree murder and terrorism, for his role in the tragic events at Oxford High School. Prosecutors have argued that the Crumbleys allowed their son access to a firearm and failed to exercise the "reasonable care" necessary to prevent him from intentionally harming others. They presented evidence suggesting that the parents were aware of concerning signs exhibited by their son before the shooting took place. Months before the incident, the teenage shooter had reported hallucinations to his parents and had asked for help. Additionally, he confided in a friend that Jennifer had laughed at his troubles, while James had responded by telling him to "suck it up." The prosecution also highlighted the circumstances leading up to the shooting. James Crumbley purchased the firearm used in the attack just three days before the tragic event, violating regulations by gifting it to his son and signing a form stating that it was illegal to buy a firearm for someone else. Jennifer Crumbley further contributed to the situation by bringing her son to a shooting range the day after the firearm purchase. The day of the shooting itself brought a series of alarming events. The Crumbleys were called to Oxford High School for a meeting with a counselor after their son was caught watching a shooting video on his phone, followed by the discovery of disturbing drawings and writings. The counselor recommended removing him from school and immediate medical attention, but the parents declined. Tragically, just two hours later, the shooter opened fire, claiming the lives of Madisyn Baldwin, Justin Shilling, Tate Myre, and Hana St. Juliana. The verdict in Jennifer Crumbley's trial marks a significant moment in a case that has garnered widespread attention and raised critical questions about parental responsibility in such tragic events. As the legal process unfolds, the community continues to grapple with the profound impact of the Oxford High School shooting. Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK's Unconfessed Crimes, Delphi Murders: Inside the Crime, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Malevolent Mormon Mommys, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

Could the trial of Jennifer Crumbley, charged with involuntary manslaughter after her son Ethan's devastating attack at Oxford High School, redefine parental responsibility in the wake of school shootings? This critical question resonates deeply as the legal proceedings against the Crumbleys unfold, potentially setting a groundbreaking precedent for how society addresses the complex interplay between gun ownership, parental oversight, and the tragic outcomes of school violence. Jennifer Coffindaffer, a retired FBI Special Agent and contributor to the "Hidden Killers" podcast, joined host Tony Brueski to dissect the implications of this landmark case. "This will be a huge precedent if it's set," Coffindaffer remarked, highlighting the case's potential to scrutinize not just the Crumbleys but any parent whose actions—or inactions—might enable a child to commit such heinous acts. The core of the prosecution's argument hinges on the assertion of gross negligence on the part of Jennifer and James Crumbley, accused of providing their son with a firearm despite his evident psychological distress. Coffindaffer's analysis paints a picture of parents who, metaphorically, buried their heads in the sand, ignoring glaring signs of their son's homicidal ideation. "They just didn't know who their son was at all, and maybe didn't even care," she observed, critiquing the Crumbleys' apparent disengagement from their son's escalating crisis. The conversation also ventured into the broader societal and legal ramifications of holding parents criminally accountable for their children's actions. The discussion pondered the potential for this case to extend beyond school shootings, questioning whether parents of individuals who commit other forms of mass violence might also face scrutiny. Coffindaffer raised the concern of a slippery slope, asking, "Where does it stop?" Moreover, Coffindaffer drew parallels between the Crumbley case and other instances where familial responsibility for criminal acts has been debated, such as the case of accused serial killer Bryan Kohberger. She highlighted the challenges of attributing blame to parents for the actions of adult children, emphasizing the complexities of discerning when parental responsibility should translate into legal liability. The conversation underscored the difficulty of navigating these uncharted waters, particularly when faced with tragic outcomes like those at Oxford High School. The Crumbleys' alleged failure to act upon their son's distress signals, coupled with their decision to provide him with a firearm, forms a chilling narrative of missed opportunities for intervention. "Without their actions, Tony, without their negligence, those four students would be alive," Coffindaffer poignantly noted, reminding listeners of the human cost at the heart of this legal debate. Yet, as Brueski and Coffindaffer explored, the case also touches on broader issues of mental health awareness and the societal impulse to find blame in the aftermath of tragedy. The discussion highlighted the importance of understanding and addressing the underlying factors that contribute to such catastrophic events, beyond simply assigning legal culpability. As the trial progresses, the potential conviction of Jennifer Crumbley looms as a momentous decision that could reverberate through legal, societal, and familial realms. The Crumbley case asks us to consider the limits of parental oversight, the responsibilities of gun ownership, and the ways in which society can prevent future tragedies. In navigating this complex landscape, one question remains paramount: How can we balance the need for accountability with the recognition of the myriad challenges facing parents and guardians in today's tumultuous world? As we ponder this, the Crumbley trial may very well chart a new course in our collective effort to safeguard our schools and communities from the scourge of violence. Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK's Unconfessed Crimes, Delphi Murders: Inside the Crime, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Malevolent Mormon Mommys, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

Could the trial of Jennifer Crumbley, alongside her husband James, over their son Ethan's tragic school shooting at Oxford High School, redefine the concept of parental accountability in America? This question looms large as the Crumbleys face involuntary manslaughter charges, sparking a legal and societal debate that could have far-reaching consequences. Tony Brueski, host of the "Hidden Killers" podcast, delved into this complex issue with defense attorney and podcast host Bob Motta. "This really is a case that could set quite a bit of precedent," Brueski noted, underscoring the potential for this trial to alter the legal landscape surrounding parental oversight and gun ownership. The Crumbleys' case is not merely about the horrific events of November 2021, when Ethan Crumbley opened fire at his Michigan high school, killing four students. It's about examining the extent to which parents can, and should, be held legally responsible for their children's actions. Bob Motta, reflecting on the gravity of the case, remarked, "It very well could change the fabric of our society... It's a game changer." At the heart of the prosecution's argument is the claim of negligence on the part of Ethan's parents. They are accused of missing glaring warning signs and failing to take necessary actions that might have prevented the tragedy. However, the defense challenges this narrative, arguing that pinpointing responsibility is not so straightforward. Motta raised concerns about the implications of a guilty verdict, suggesting that it could pave the way for prosecutors nationwide to hold parents accountable for their children's violent crimes committed outside of their presence. "Every prosecutor in every state will look at it and say, well, they've shown it's possible," he emphasized, highlighting the precedent-setting nature of the trial. The discussion also touched on the challenges faced by the state in proving involuntary manslaughter. "They have to prove that they had knowledge that the kid was going through some serious mental health issues," Motta explained, addressing the burden of proof required to establish the Crumbleys' guilt. The trial has sparked a broader conversation about the role of parents in monitoring their children's mental health and activities. Jennifer Crumbley's cross-examination and the closing arguments were streamed live by Brueski, underscoring the case's significance and public interest. The prosecution's focus on selected text messages between Jennifer and Ethan has drawn criticism for potentially oversimplifying a complex situation. Defense attorney Shannon Smith's handling of the case has been noteworthy, with Motta praising her preparedness and ability to challenge the state's narrative. Smith's argument that parents are entitled to hobbies and interests, even as they navigate the challenges of parenting, resonated with Motta, highlighting the unrealistic expectations placed on parents by the prosecution. As the trial progresses, it raises critical questions about the limits of parental responsibility and the societal expectations of how children should be raised. With the Crumbleys' legal battle underway, the case could indeed set a new standard for how the law views parental accountability in the context of tragic events like school shootings. As we await the outcome of this landmark trial, one cannot help but ponder: How will this case influence the legal and moral obligations of parents across the nation? And more importantly, can legislation and legal action alone address the underlying issues that lead to such devastating outcomes? Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK's Unconfessed Crimes, Delphi Murders: Inside the Crime, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Malevolent Mormon Mommys, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

Could the trial of Jennifer Crumbley mark a pivotal moment in how parents are held accountable for their children's actions, particularly in tragic instances of school shootings? This question looms large as Jennifer Crumbley faces involuntary manslaughter charges after her son, Ethan Crumbley, perpetrated a deadly attack at Oxford High School in Michigan in 2021, killing four students. The case is under intense scrutiny, with potential implications that reach far beyond the immediate tragedy. Jennifer Coffindaffer, a retired FBI special agent and contributor to the podcast "Hidden Killers," sheds light on the significance of this trial. "This will be a huge precedent if it's set," Coffindaffer states, emphasizing the broader ramifications for gun owners and parental accountability. The heart of the matter lies in proving gross negligence, which Coffindaffer suggests is palpable in this case. The Crumbleys' alleged failure to recognize and act upon clear warning signs exhibited by their son paints a troubling picture of neglect. "I gotta tell you, she was just an ostrich putting her head in the sand," Coffindaffer reflects, criticizing the apparent disconnect between the parents and the reality of their son's deteriorating mental state. The trial brings to the forefront the complex interplay between gun ownership and responsible parenting. If Jennifer Crumbley is found guilty, it could signal a new era where parents are legally obliged to ensure their firearms are secure and out of reach, especially for children showing signs of distress or violence. Further complicating the Crumbleys' narrative is the backdrop of past challenges, including issues with alcoholism and previous involvement with Child Protective Services, pointing to a pattern of problematic behavior. Yet, despite these challenges, Coffindaffer notes that both parents were seen as hardworking individuals, a dichotomy that adds layers to the unfolding legal drama. The digital evidence, particularly text messages between Jennifer Crumbley and her son on the day of the shooting, offers a chilling glimpse into a missed opportunity for intervention. Coffindaffer is particularly struck by Jennifer Crumbley's response to her son's disturbing drawings found at school, which she seemingly dismissed with plans to go horseback riding. This case not only challenges the Crumbleys but also prompts a broader societal reflection on the responsibilities of parenthood, gun ownership, and the importance of recognizing and addressing mental health issues in children. "Very much someone, it seems, to have put their head in the sand and pretended that their son was not capable of doing these things," Coffindaffer concludes, highlighting a dangerous form of denial that could have catastrophic consequences. As the legal proceedings against Jennifer Crumbley unfold, the outcome may indeed establish a new standard for parental accountability in the context of gun ownership and the prevention of school shootings. This landmark case forces us to confront uncomfortable truths about the role of parents in recognizing and mitigating the potential for violence within their own homes. The Crumbley trial raises the pivotal question: In the aftermath of tragedy, where do we draw the line between personal responsibility and societal failure? And crucially, how can we better equip parents to navigate the complex terrain of modern parenthood, ensuring the safety and well-being of all children? Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK's Unconfessed Crimes, Delphi Murders: Inside the Crime, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Malevolent Mormon Mommys, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

How Do You Legislate Stupidity In The Case Of School Shooter Mom Jennifer Crumbley In a courtroom drama that may well redefine the contours of parental responsibility, Jennifer Crumbley stands trial for her part in a tragedy that left four students dead at Oxford High School in Michigan. Charged with involuntary manslaughter, alongside her husband James, for their son Ethan Crumbley's harrowing act, the case pierces the heart of a national crisis: the recurring nightmare of school shootings. But could this trial set a precedent that stretches beyond this single incident, reshaping the landscape of gun ownership and parental oversight? Psychotherapist and author Shavaun Scott joined Tony Brueski on "Hidden Killers" to explore the profound implications of this landmark case. "It's a tricky issue," Scott begins, acknowledging the delicate balance between safeguarding children and overburdening parents with the weight of potential legal repercussions for their child's actions. The Crumbley case strikes at the core of an American epidemic: gun violence as the leading cause of death among children ages one to nineteen. Scott points to a stark variable distinguishing the United States from the rest of the world: "easy access to firearms." She cites a revealing survey where 70% of gun-owning parents believed their children couldn't access their firearms, yet interviews with their children told a different story. One third claimed they could retrieve the gun in under five minutes, and another 50% said they could do so within an hour. "This is carnage," Scott asserts, describing the collective trauma inflicted on American society by the specter of school shootings. The frequency of these tragedies, she argues, has led to a state of cultural PTSD, driving some parents to homeschool their children out of fear. The Crumbley trial, therefore, represents a critical juncture in confronting this crisis head-on. The evidence against Jennifer Crumbley, as detailed by Scott, paints a damning portrait of parental negligence. Ethan Crumbley was not just a troubled teenager; he was a young man tormented by violent fantasies and hallucinations, known to have harmed small animals and even harbored plans to abduct, torture, and rape a classmate. Despite these glaring red flags, his parents' response was to gift him a firearm for his 15th birthday—a decision that would have catastrophic consequences. Scott is unequivocal in her belief that parents like the Crumbleys must be held accountable. "This really is a glaring case where I think we've got to hold parents responsible," she says. Her stance is informed by a career spent studying violence and its prevention, where she has seen the lethal combination of accessible firearms and untreated mental illness time and again. The broader issue, Scott suggests, lies in the American culture's unique relationship with guns. Unlike other countries that face similar challenges with mental health and internet exposure, the U.S. stands alone in its number of firearms exceeding its population. The solution, in her view, lies not only in addressing mental health care and internet culture but in confronting the easy access to guns that has enabled such tragedies. As the trial unfolds, the question remains: Can the legal system legislate against parental negligence in the face of clear warning signs, or is this an attempt to legislate against "stupidity," as Brueski puts it? The Crumbley case may indeed set a precedent, but the broader challenge of preventing future tragedies requires a multifaceted approach, addressing the root causes of America's gun violence epidemic. In a nation grappling with the consequences of its gun culture, the Crumbley trial forces us to confront uncomfortable truths about responsibility, oversight, and the measures necessary to protect our children. As we await the verdict, one question looms large: Will this case mark a turning point in our collective effort to stem the tide of school shootings, or will it be a mere footnote in the ongoing saga of America's struggle with gun violence? Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK's Unconfessed Crimes, Delphi Murders: Inside the Crime, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Malevolent Mormon Mommys, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com