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In April 2023, 56-year-old Michael Dale paid over $11,000 to spend the night with OnlyFans model Michaela Rylaarsdam. Hours later, he was found with his entire head wrapped in plastic and duct tape, and women's shoes glued to his feet.Michaela told police it was consensual BDSM gone wrong. But investigators found videos on her phone showing Dale struggling to breathe—footage she allegedly recorded for her subscribers.She was charged with murder in 2025. Prosecutors say he was too drunk to consent. Her team says it was a tragic accident.What do you think—murder, or a fatal mistake?Get all the crime in half the time! Watch True Crime Recaps on Facebook, TikTok, YouTube or Snapchat! Follow us on Instagram and Twitter. New episodes weekly!

Timestamps (9:22) - Johnny Gosh Final Thoughts (17:00) - Fetish Crimes In this episode of the True Crime Society Podcast, we are going to discuss two separate cases involving fetish-related deaths. Californian wife and mom-of-three Michaela Rylaarsdam (31) has been arrested and charged over the death of Michael Dale (55) in 2023.  It is alleged his death happened following a consensual BDSM session that Michael paid for.  Michaela is alleged to have wrapped Michael in saran wrap, at his request.   She allegedly filmed OnlyFans content as he lay dying beside her. Brendan Banfield has been accused of murdering his wife Christine in 2023.  It is alleged that Brendan worked with the family au-pair Juliana Peres Magalhaes to conduct the crime.   Brendan and Juliana made an account on a fetish website and tried to set up a man named Joseph Ryan to come into their home.   The plan was that Joseph would assault Christine as part of a role-play and that her death would occur as part of that scenario.  Both Joseph and Christine ended up being killed. Also, Stephanie reveals some exciting news in this episode! Blog for this episode Check us out on: Instagram - For the latest crime news and updates Patreon - For exclusive ad-free content and weekly bonus episodes! This episode is sponsored by Nutrafol -  Start your hair growth journey with Nutrafol. For a limited time, Nutrafol is offering our listeners $10 off your first month's subscription and free shipping when you go to Nutrafol.com and enter the promo code TCS

This episode was originally published on The Murder Sheet's main feed on March 21, 2025.The Cheat Sheet is The Murder Sheet's segment breaking down weekly news and updates in some of the murder cases we cover. In this episode, we'll talk about cases from Maryland, New Jersey, New York, New Mexico, and California.NJ.com's coverage of the murder of Nancy Noga and the conviction of Bruce A. Cymanski: https://www.nj.com/middlesex/2025/03/man-gets-life-for-killing-teen-in-1999-and-leaving-her-body-behind-a-nj-strip-mall.htmlMy Central Jersey's coverage of the murder of Nancy Noga and the conviction of Bruce A. Cymanski: https://www.mycentraljersey.com/story/news/crime/2025/02/25/nj-man-writes-letter-maintaining-innocence-in-1999-sayreville-murder/80055632007/The post on Bruce A. Cymanski from Sedition Hunters: https://seditionhunters.org/bruce-a-cymanski-paymepb/Prince George Police Department's update on the murder of Kathryn Donohue and the arrest of Rodger Zodas Brown: http://pgpolice.blogspot.com/2025/03/pgpd-cold-case-unit-identifies-charges.htmlNewsweek's report on the murder of Kathryn Donohue and the arrest of Rodger Zodas Brown: https://www.newsweek.com/murder-mystery-solved-breakthrough-after-46-years-2046965?fbclid=IwY2xjawJJDYlleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHfJsAqzbaEFhxBzbLbWjXy3zgE2Nc1p2lab3ynRuaDj2CDG0YoxWALaY1Q_aem_EKtr-OLR2Mqa8l4g5iEFMAThe Pilot's report on the murder of Kathryn Donohue and the arrest of Rodger Zodas Brown: https://www.thepilot.com/news/suspect-in-45-year-old-murder-case-arrested-in-moore-county/article_73f4c3be-041f-11f0-80ba-1f026116663f.htmlKOB's coverage of the arrest of 13-year-old Johnathan Overbay, 15-year-old William Garcia, and an 11-year-old in the vehicular homicide of Scott Dwight Habermehl: https://www.kob.com/news/top-news/a-look-at-the-criminal-history-of-11-year-old-teen-in-custody-for-cyclists-death/https://www.koat.com/article/albuquerque-police-arrest-teen-bike-murder/64235109KOB's coverage of the 11-year-old accused in the vehicular homicide of Scott Dwight Habermehl: https://www.kob.com/news/top-news/a-look-at-the-criminal-history-of-11-year-old-teen-in-custody-for-cyclists-death/ABQ Raw's coverage of the arrest of 13-year-old Johnathan Overbay, 15-year-old William Garcia, and an 11-year-old in the vehicular homicide of Scott Dwight Habermehl: https://abqraw.com/post/third-scum-bag-teen-arrested-in-murder-of-beloved-scientist-cyclist/Michael Shrader's article "Risk Factors for Delinquency: An Overview" for the United States Department of Justice: Office of Juvenile Justice and Delinquency Prevention: https://www.ojp.gov/pdffiles1/ojjdp/frd030127.pdfFox 5 San Diego's coverage of the arrest of Michaela Rylaarsdam in the death of Michael Dale: https://fox5sandiego.com/news/local-news/california-woman-facing-murder-charge-after-man-dies-in-paid-fetish-encounter/The New York Post's coverage of the case of would-be-hitman Khalid Mehdiyev, who targeted Iranian-American activist Masih Alinejad: https://nypost.com/2025/03/12/us-news/bumbling-hitman-botched-murder-of-iranian-american-journalist/The New York Post's coverage of the case of would-be-hitman Khalid Mehdiyev, who targeted Iranian-American activist Masih Alinejad: https://nypost.com/2025/03/19/us-news/plot-to-assassinate-iranian-dissident-in-nyc-is-lie-cooked-up-by-pizza-delivery-hitman-lawyer-claims/Pre-order our book on Delphi here: https://bookshop.org/p/books/shadow-of-the-bridge-the-delphi-murders-and-the-dark-side-of-the-american-heartland-aine-cain/21866881?ean=9781639369232Or here: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Shadow-of-the-Bridge/Aine-Cain/9781639369232Or here: https://www.amazon.com/Shadow-Bridge-Murders-American-Heartland/dp/1639369236Join our Patreon here! https://www.patreon.com/c/murdersheetSupport The Murder Sheet by buying a t-shirt here: https://www.murdersheetshop.com/Send tips to murdersheet@gmail.com.The Murder Sheet is a production of Mystery Sheet LLC.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

5100 Monument Avenue, Unit 401, Brookland District - 5,000, 820 SF (built in 1961), from Scott Goldberg, Kathleen Dunn and F. Wimer to Charles Phillips. 9601 Links Way, Unit G, Fairfield District - 9,500, 1,150 SF (built in 1998), from Michael Dale and Jeanine W. Ellis to Trinh Thieu and Tommy Phung. 2309 Beck Drive, Fairfield District - 0,000, 912 SF (built in 1959), from Jill C. Coleman to Marcie Carol Forbes. 4175 White Orchid Lane, Varina District - 5,990, 1,306 SF (built in 2024), from Mankin Properties LLC to Jasmine Aaliyah and Danielle A. Carter. 3301 Birchbrook Road, Brookland...Article LinkSupport the show

Good morning from Pharma and Biotech daily: the podcast that gives you only what's important to hear in Pharma and Biotech world.The FDA approved Ascendis' drug for a rare endocrine condition, while rejecting MDMA as a therapy aid for PTSD. Pfizer presented new data on their RSV shot for immunocompromised adults. Halda, a startup, raised $126 million to advance targeted cancer therapy. A journal retracted papers on MDMA-assisted therapy due to undisclosed unethical conduct. Biopharma Dive provides in-depth coverage of news and trends in the biotech and pharma industries, from clinical trials to FDA approvals and research partnerships. Companies like Pfizer and Lilly are shifting towards more patient-centric commercialization strategies.Stryker has announced plans to acquire smart hospital technology firm Care.ai, following a statement by CEO Kevin Lobo about an active deal pipeline for the second half of 2024. Unilabs has partnered with C2N Diagnostics to sell Alzheimer's blood tests in Europe, with C2N recently receiving an investment from Eisai, the developer of the Alzheimer's drug Leqembi. Smiths Medical is recalling infusion pumps due to software issues, while Solventum has raised its earnings forecast after a successful first independent quarter following its separation from 3M. Axogen has named ex-Abbott executive Michael Dale as CEO, replacing Karen Zaderej. Other news includes initial US commercial triclip cases offering hope, FDA rejecting MDMA as a therapy aid for PTSD, and the approval of an EpiPen alternative nasal spray for anaphylaxis. Medtech Dive provides industry news and insights on topics such as medical devices, diagnostics, digital health, regulation/compliance, and more, catering to decision-makers in competitive industries.For-profit health systems received a boost in earnings from Medicaid supplemental payments in the second quarter, although executives stated that it was not enough to cover their costs. Nonprofits in the healthcare sector experienced a record-low cash on hand in 2023, with little improvement in cash flow between 2022 and 2023. In a significant decision, the FDA rejected the use of MDMA as a therapy aid for PTSD, impacting the growing field of psychedelics research. The importance of integrating generative AI in healthcare organizations for success is highlighted, with advice on choosing the right vendor for AI solutions. Additionally, the newsletter covers topics such as data management for improving patient outcomes, navigating the future of mental healthcare, and updating sales approaches in healthcare. Healthcare Dive provides in-depth journalism and insights on trends shaping healthcare, covering areas such as health IT, policy and regulation, insurance, digital health, payer-provider partnerships, and value-based care.Pfizer has achieved a pivotal Phase III win for its RSV vaccine in immunocompromised adults, showing a strong neutralizing response against both subtypes of the virus. Ascendis Pharma's hypoparathyroidism drug has secured FDA approval after facing regulatory challenges. Halda Therapeutics has raised $126 million to advance two cancer candidates. In the obesity space, there are several clinical trials ongoing, with five candidates expected to release data by the end of 2024. Additionally, other news includes MDMA papers being retracted for unethical conduct, FDA approvals and rejections, and biopharma layoffs.The biotech and pharma industry has been experiencing layoffs due to economic uncertainty, with companies like Entero Therapeutics and Precigen announcing workforce reductions. However, there is hope that an increase in mergers and acquisitions (M&A) could help alleviate the trend of layoffs. Pharma companies are turning to smaller deals and taking companies private to navigate the tough market environment. The rise in M&A, fueled by the impact of the GLP-1 boom, couldSupport the Show.

Michael Dale was the President of Jaguar North America from 1990 until 2000. He was responsible for British Leyland's and Jaguar North America's racing activities, which involved joining forces with Group 44 to achieve numerous SCCA National Championships and bringing Jaguar back to its racing roots at the 24 Hours of Le Mans. Mike will be part of a panel on this year's Philadelphia Concours d'Elegance event discussing the racing and production history of Jaguar, the featured marque, on Sunday June 23 at the concours. The concours and discussion will take place at the Simeone Foundation Automotive Museum in Philadelphia.

Join us and Michael & Dale from It's True, All of It podcast as we finish up our dive deep into the Obi Wan Kenobi series, and talk future possibilities with some of the characters & arcs! Enjoy! Thanks to Mike and Dale from It's True, All of It podcast for providing our intro song. Thanks to James Arnold Taylor for our intro! We have t-shirts for sale! Please visit our Zazzle store for our latests designs! Start a ConverSWation with us: converswations.com converswations on twitter converswations on facebook converswations on instagram converswations linktree We are proud members of the Red 5 Network --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/converswations/message

The Obi Wan Kenobi series on Disney+ provided Star Wars fans so much to talk about - from new characters, characters plucked from other media & it's connections to the movie timeline. Join us with Michael & Dale from It's True, All of It podcast as we dive deep into the episodes. Part 2 will be out in two weeks. Enjoy! Thanks to Mike and Dale from It's True, All of It podcast for providing our intro song. Thanks to Rob LaBarre at Jedi Temple Archives Podcast & Hoop Dee Duo Review Show for our intro! We have t-shirts for sale! Please visit our Zazzle store for our latests designs! Start a ConverSWation with us: converswations.com converswations on twitter converswations on facebook converswations on instagram converswations linktree We are proud members of the Red 5 Network --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/converswations/message

In this episode, I'm talking to Michael Dale Kimmel about open relationships.Michael has been a therapist since 1971 and a relationship therapist for many of his professional years. Having helped many couples and especially gay couples over the last decades, he really knows all the ins and outs of open relationships.This is part two of a mini-series about monogamy, infidelity, cheating, and possible alternatives to traditional relationships. If you haven't listened to episode one of this series, search my channel for an episode called “Why do people cheat” and listen to that episode first. That'll give you the full picture.More about MichaelBorn in North Western Ohio, Michael is now running his own therapeutic practice in San Diego, California. After a colorful period in Europe and Egypt, he moved back to the States where he earned a Master's Degree in Developmental Psychology while interning for “Sesame Street” in New York City.  Michael has since earned additional degrees and certifications in Clinical Social Work, Personnel and Group Development, Somatic Relational Psychotherapy, Internal Family Systems, and Bioenergetic Analysis.A true inspiration when it comes to lifelong learning! Next to his therapeutic work, Michael has published a book called “The Gay Man's Guide to Open and Monogamous Marriage” which offers all couples an easy-to-follow, practical framework that they can use to create, adjust and structure their relationship/marriage. Since its publication in 2017, the book has frequently been on Amazon's List of “Best-Selling Relationship Books”. Here's the link for you to order this book.Michael Dale Kimmel is currently working on his next book called “A Gay Man's Guide to aging well”. Subscribe to Michael's newsletter to be notified as soon as the book is published. Here's the link to subscribe. Last but definitely not least: Michael offers psychotherapy, counseling, and coaching via Zoom. For you individually or you and your partner, depending on what you need right now. And one of the upsides of the pandemic is that Zoom makes it possible for you to be Michael's client from wherever you are. As long as you're willing to meet him during California time business hours. All of Michael's contacts are on his website lifebeyondtherapy.com.Become a member of the Psychologist Reacts community on psychologistreacts.com. Subscribe for:special episodesproduct releasescoaching opportunitiesBONUS: Each month, one subscriber wins a FREE 45 min session which they can use for coaching or just asking questions that keep them up at that moment.Follow me on Instagram for fun & engaging discussions before, during, and after an episode is recorded and published @danilo.tesi To submit feedback, reactions, or content requests:Click here to send a voice message (I love voice messages)Or send an email to info@psychologistreacts.comTalk to you soon,Danilo

This week, we explore the importance of small, community, local, and regional pride events and recognize the loss of Congressperson John Lewis.First up, Aleksa and Egan speak with Stacy Bass-Walden, one of the founders of Alki Beach Pride, about some safely-distanced events they have planned for 2020. Then, we speak with Michael Dale, the board president for Boise Pride, and talk about their plans for a 2020 virtual pride (with some in-person elements). Finally, we meet with community activist Allison Fine Taylor who has been helping to lead up an effort to produce Federal Way's first Pride event in 2020. Sadly, they will have to wait until 2021. Happily, they've built quite an organization and have already done much of the work to prepare for an in-person Pride next year.Stacy Bass-Walden with Alki Beach Pride (https://www.alkibeachpride.org) @ 8:30Michael Dale, Boise Pride (https://www.boisepridefest.org) @ 25:00Allison Fine Taylor, Federal Way Pride (https://www.fwlgbtq.org/pride) @ 43:00

We talk to Michael Dale, founder of Fire Brand agency in Eastbourne, about why branding should be at the forefront of what you do as a business, big or small.

Tiff Stevenson joins Alice Fraser to bring you Commonwealth news!This is a Somethin' Else and Bugle Podcasts production.This episode was produced by Michael Dale and Chris Skinner. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

Tiff Stevenson joins Alice Fraser to bring you the news on energy!This is a Somethin' Else and Bugle Podcasts production.This episode was produced by Michael Dale and Chris Skinner. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

Alice is joined by Tiff Stevenson to look at TV for the apocalypse/future (delete as applicable).This is a Somethin' Else and Bugle Podcasts production.This episode was produced by Ped Hunter, Michael Dale and Chris Skinner. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

It's Mike Pence news on this episode with Alice Fraser and Josh Godelman.This is a Somethin' Else and Bugle Podcasts production.This episode was produced by Michael Dale and Chris Skinner. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

This Tuesday, Matt K and Alice give us a US Election update!This is a Somethin' Else and Bugle Podcasts production.This episode was produced by Michael Dale and Chris Skinner. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

As a new week commences on The Last Post, Anuvab and Alice chat the central excise date!This is a Somethin' Else and Bugle Podcasts production.This episode was produced by Michael Dale and Chris Skinner. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

Anuvab Pal joins Alice to share news of Tik Tok and the legendary Chicken Leg Piece Guy.This is a Somethin' Else and Bugle Podcasts production.This episode was produced by Michael Dale and Chris Skinner. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

Last year CiscoLive overlapped with Ramadan which was not a lot of fun for the Muslim attendees. This year it conflicts with Shavuot, requiring observant Jews who planned to attend to arrive a week in advance. Add those challenges to the normal stress an IT person with a strong religious, moral, or ethical POV has: finding a place to pray, navigating how "outwardly" they want to present as a religious person (and if that's even a choice), managing work-mandated venue choices for food and "entertainment" that push personal boundaries, etc, and it's a wonder we're able to make convention attendance work at all. In part 2 of this discussion, I continue the conversaion with Mike Wise, Al Rasheed, and Keith Townsend about how they make conventions not only possible, but a positive experience religiously as well as professionally. Listen or read the transcript below. Doug: 00:00 W1elcome to our podcast where we talk about the interesting, frustrating and inspiring experiences we have is people with strongly held religious views working in corporate IT. We're not here to preach or teach you our religion. We're here to explore ways we make our career as it professionals mesh - or at least not conflict - with our religious life. This is Technically Religious. Leon: 00:24 This is a continuation of the discussion we started last week. Thank you for coming back to join our conversation. Leon: 00:30 Okay. So I think another aspect with food is, um, and you touched on it, dinners out with the team, right? When it's like, "no, no, no, it's gonna be a team meeting. It's going to be a team dinner. We're all going out." And uh, again, just speaking for myself, it's like, "okay, I'm going to have the... Glass of water. Al: 00:51 Yeah, that's me New Speaker: 00:51 "It's, yeah, it's, no, it's fine." You know, like you want to be a team member, you want to be part of it, but all of a sudden the meeting becomes, at least part of the meeting becomes about Leon and his food issues. Like, I don't want, I don't want that to be that either. Al: 01:06 Right. I was just going to say in some cases, uh, at some conventions or maybe the parties at the conventions, they hand out those drink coupons that you can redeem at the bar. I ended up giving it to others that are with me and I'd get this look like, "Don't you want to drink?" I'm like, "No, water's is fine." Mike: 01:24 Al, come on. You're missing a major opportunity here. You got to SELL them. Right. You know, these, these are trades, right? You're, you know, Leon: 01:33 So the first episode of Technically Teligious was myself and Josh Biggley, who's, uh, he's now ex-Mormon. At the time that we were working together, he was Mormon. And so we we worked together in the same company. And so we had this whole shtick. We'd walk into these spaces and it's like, "Oqkay, so I'm drinking his beer, he's gonna eat my chicken wings, and he's driving me home." So you just have to find our roles, you know? Yes, yes. Yeah. We just have to find that synergistic relationship where we can, you know, hand things out. So, uh, but yeah, it's, you know, when they're handing out coupons for things like, "yeah, thanks." Al: 02:13 yeah, "Don't you want to use it? It's free. It's like you're saving yourself 20 bucks." "No. I don't really want it." Leon: 02:18 Okay. So, um, moving on. Uh, I think another aspect of, of conventions that can be challenging are just the interactions. Keith, you mentioned, um, just people in general that you don't like people which, uh, may not be your best advertising or marketing slogan, "CTO, Adviser. I hate people" Keith: 02:38 Yeah, I'm not what you'd call a people person. Mike: 02:41 But a lot of people, but a lot of CTOs are introverts, right? Keith? I'm sure of it Keith: 02:47 That's absolutely the case. You know what it is, is what I find is that, you know, obviously, um, I'm high profile. So I have to interact with people. Uh, people stopped me in the hall. We have great conversations. Uh, that is actually, I enjoy the interactions at conferences like Vmworld, vMugs, and to some extent AWS because you know it's kind of the same community that I have on Twitter. What I find exhausting is when I go to something like an open source conference where I have like, I've never met these people in slack, I've not met them, uh, online, and I have to work so hard to meet people and get out of my, uh, shell. Like when someone comes up to me and says, "Hey, Keith," I'm like, Oh, okay. It's, I don't have to say hello. I the, the, I had this thing when I was a kid. Like I didn't understand why you had to say hello to someone you saw every day. That kind of didn't make any sense. Like, I see you every day. Why would I say hi to you every morning? That just doesn't make any sense. So that's a carry over I've learned, but it's still exhausting to, uh, to interact and give and give of yourself and be with people. And it's so many people that want your time. Leon: 04:06 So that's, that's in the, in general. Again, I think a lot of introverts, introverts share that same, uh, challenge. And, and just to clarify, I know we were teasing you earlier is, you know, you're really good with individuals, with people when you're having a conversation, you're not so good with crowds of people. Like that's the part that like, "I just don't want to deal with the 800 folks who are standing in front of me right now all trying to get to lunch at the same time. I want all them to go away." Keith: 04:32 But you know, Chicago, we have some big festivals here and I, I'd go to none of them. I don't like amusement parks. I just don't like crowds. So, you know, the conferences are probably the worst place to go if you don't like crowds. The one of the reasons I don't go to the parties at night because it's just too many people. Leon: 04:52 And at that point your battery's empty. Keith: 04:54 Already because you've just spent the whole day. Uh, you know, I go to a Tech Field Day and talk to folks like Al and Mike or whoever and just have a really great time, but I'm exhausted because I've spent the whole day socializing. Now I have to go by and be around a bunch of people that I generally don't know. It's even tough. Al: 05:13 I was just going to add, not a knock on any of the conferences again, but what I appreciate the most about Tech Field Day is you're introduced to your fellow delegates weeks in advance. You have an opportunity to, you know, get to know them in some way, you know, via Twitter, Linkedin or the slack channel. So I think that helps break the ice and it definitely makes it a lot easier when you first meet them for the first time in person. Keith: 05:36 And then going back to kind of a religious thing, uh, I'm pretty, you know, all of us pretty much where our faiths on our sleeves. No one in the community would be a surprise that we're, uh, we, that we follow Islam, Orthodox Jew or devout Christian. Uh, one of the other things that is possible Mike: 06:00 Hopefully, anyway. Hopefully they wouldn't be surprised. Keith: 06:00 Especially if you have an evangelistic type faith and your call to share your faith. You know, I'm really not great at that. My wife is awesome at it and it can be really a challenge where I'm at a dinner where I don't know a bunch of people in a bunch of people don't know us and Melissa has no problems, you know, saying, "Hey, uh, before we start, can we say kind of a nondenominational prayer before meal" and, and I'm like, oh, I don't, it doesn't bother me. But it again is just one of those things. It's uncomfortable and, and, and, and sometimes our faith calls us to do uncomfortable things. Leon: 06:37 Right? Yeah. It's not that you wouldn't volunteer that as, as readily as she does. Al: 06:42 I'm just curious, since we're speaking of faith and saying a small prayer, I'm sure we all do it, but I don't want to single anybody out. But anytime I fly I always say a prayer and you know, so I'll clasp by hands together and I'll say a few words and then I'll do this. It'll make this motion. And sometimes I'll get a look from someone beside me. Like, "what's wrong with them? Is Everything okay?" Mike: 07:04 "Is there anything wrong with the plane?" Al: 07:06 I don't explain myself. I just stay focused. I stay looking straight ahead. I don't even get caught up in it. Keith: 07:12 So I, I do, I do a small prayer too, but, you know, I don't have, you know, my faith doesn't have traditions like that where it's obvious that I'm doing something of, uh, of, uh, of inference and, you know, we talk about it, you know, Leon talking about prayer and this is a theme that's at conferences. So Scott Lowe a of VMware of, of, VMWare and then Heptio and then at VMware again, uh, at VMWorld does a, a prayer group in the morning. So, uh, it's common for us, uh, faithful, whether it's regardless of religion to pray for one another. You know, Leon has three congregations praying for my wife. Uh, so I, I, you know, I really, uh, appreciate that. So, you know, I don't think there's anything, uh, uncommon about, I think it's actually fairly common. Leon: 08:03 So in, in Orthodox Judaism, there's a specific traveler's prayer and, uh, that's, but I, I think to your point, like on a plane, um, you know, just like there's no atheists in foxholes. There are very few atheists before the airplane has taken off. I think lots and lots of people are very like, you know, there's also no atheist right before... Mike: 08:24 "Do you pray?" Yes I do. "Could you pray for us?". Yes. Okay. Leon: 08:26 Yeah. Yeah. It's also, you know, it, you'll still find the same sort of, uh, preponderance of prayer right before a pop quiz the teacher just called. Like lots of people will, you know, I think it's the same sort of reaction there. That's, that's less, uh, I think that's less uncommon or less confusing for folks. Um, then again, at the team meeting, you know, at the, I'm sorry, at the team dinner where, you know, all of a sudden it's like, "But, uh, I have to go wash my hands and then I can't talk between washing my hands and eating this bread." And like, then, and people want to have this conversation. I was like, "Mmm. uh-huh" like, you know, so it becomes an interesting, uh, hiccup or, you know, an awareness thing. Mike: 09:13 Well, I think it just, I think it just adds richness, you know, I, as long as it's honest. Okay. So in Christianity, there's a couple of stereotypes that you don't want to become. You don't want to become the holier-than-thou person. You know, "oh, well, you know, if you were real Christian." You wouldn't do that. Right. You don't want to be the in-your-face Christian. Right. Who is, you know, preaching to people the entire time. Right, right. But if you're just sort of, you know, walking your faith. Um, so one of the things that happens to me almost all the time is that people will say, "oh, Mike, yeah. So good to see you," or "So good to meet you." You know, and, and we'll, we'll talk about children, right. They'll ask me. "So, you know, are you married?" "Yeah, my wife and I are empty nesters." Okay. "So, well do you have any kids?" "Yes, I've got a 30 year old son and a 28 year old daughter." "Well, what are they doing?" "Well, my son is in the army, you know, and he's been deployed twice and now he's getting into navigators, which is, uh, army discipleship ministry. And my daughter is a missionary in Cambodia." And so, you know, that just opens up a whole rich conversation about why and what's going on and how did they get there? And you know, what's their goal and how does that impact you? "Gosh, your son was deployed, you must've been on your knees the whole time," you know, all of this stuff. So to me, I really see there's really no way around unless you really get into a shell. There's really, I mean, faith just, you know, always comes up. You know what I mean? Leon: 10:57 It certainly, it certainly can. And I think also it comes up in ways that, especially at conventions, that are either unexpected or I'm going to say, uh, not normal. And I don't mean like abnormal, but what I mean is that when we're home and we're in our neighborhood, we're in our space, certain kinds of interactions just don't come up because we structured our lives around around not having them. Um, and an example that I'll, an example I'll use is that, um, in, in Orthodox Judaism, generally speaking, men and women don't touch. It just, you know, unless somebody is, you know, it's, it's your kid or whatever, you just, you know, there's no, there's no hugging, there's no any of that stuff. It's just, yeah, so here I am working in the booth and people are coming up of, you know, all different types and you know, whatever. And all of a sudden, you know, you've, people have extended their hand. Now what's interesting is that having that, that physical contact is not a sin. It's not a problem. It's just not, it's just not done. I'll say it's not done and it's not done for particular reasons, but it's not like you violated a tenant of your faith to do it. It's just not done. What's worse is publicly embarrassing somebody. That is actually akin to like murder, you know, really like it's, you know, considered, right? So if, if a person, if a woman puts her hand out, I am going to shake her hand like absolutely no doubt about it. But over the course of multiple days. After a while it just becomes tiring. Like every time a woman puts her hand down, it's like, of course I'm going to shake your hand. Of course I'm would be gracious. Of course I'm doing it. But it is something that is contra. It's just contra normal to my normal experience and it feels like that. And so, uh, you know, those kinds of of interactions are still religious and they're still, you know, happening. But you have to find ways to navigate them. I, I don't know if you folks have had, you know, any other like things that push those limits in any way. Um, Al: 13:09 I guess if I'm approaching, a Muslim woman that's wearing hijab, and I don't know her. There is a bit of, there is a moment of awkwardness. I don't know if that's the right word. I'm, I'll probably wait for her to initiate the conversation where, or the handshake per se. But uh, in terms of, you know, hugging and whatnot. Yeah. You know, sometimes you just have to know your limits. Mike: 13:38 Now as a Christian, Al, should I be doing that too? I'm just curious. Should I be waiting for them to initiate a conversation if I, if I'm approaching somebody with hijab? Al: 13:49 Um, probably so to be honest with you, and to Leon's point it is slightly awkward. It's not fair to both parties. There is a sense of uneasiness. But I would, if you asked me my opinion and I'm a, I'm a Muslim, as I mentioned, I would allow the lady in this case to, uh, initiate the, um, the, uh, the handshake or the greeting. Keith: 14:14 Yeah. That makes a point of lot of a, a lot of these conferences are international and you get not just religious cultures, but different cultures in general, you know, giving the thumbs up to the wrong culture who, you know, looks completely different than a thumbs up here in the US or the "OK" sign. You know, it's, so, it's, it's one of those things that I try to be... It's like Twitter in real life. Like you can easily offend another person, uh, just by your body language and gestures or saying hi or not saying hi. Leon: 14:51 Yeah. I think, yeah, that cultural sensitivity, it puts the concept I'm going to use, I mean there's a word that started a little bit charged in today's society, but it's, it's, it puts the concept of consent. Did that person invite that contact or that interaction? Again, you know, the thumbs up sign or whatever it was, you know, you in one respect, it's nice to be aware, sensitized or sensitive to that, but a, in another it's, you know, again, it challenges us in some very particular ways. Al: 15:23 I think it's situational awareness. It just depends on the situation you're in, the surroundings you're in and just making good judgment and as long as you have good intent, I think ultimately that's what really matters. Mike: 15:34 Well, I think one of the problems, one of the challenges with conferences in particular is that they have a tendency of of amping up the adrenaline that's coursing through your body. You got all these people, you know, if you're, if you're in sales or business development, you got all these prospects around, you know, you've, you've also got the glitz and glamour of the location. You know, these places are always in nice places, you know, and so not something that you normally do. You know, gee, this is like a pretty nice place, you know, and then, then you have the, the alcohol, right? The effects of alcohol. And then you have the effects of travel, which we talked about before, um, where you're tired or you're suffering from jet lag. And so, you know, it changes your whole, you know, you would like, you know, how many times have you heard somebody come back from a conference and tell some story in the board room, you know, the next day about, "hey, did you see what that person did? Can you believe they did that?" You know, but this is what happens at conferences. So you really, you know, it's even extra important for us that are really out there with our faith, uh, to really be careful with what we're doing. Leon: 16:58 Well, and I'll just, I'll add onto that, that along with the social lubricant and things like that, I think there's also a lot of folks running around feeling a lot of pressure in the sense of, uh, you know, maybe they're looking for their next job or maybe they're a little starstruck. You know, you've got some of these big CEO, CIOs, uh, or people like, yeah, I mean, and, and as much as you know, I want to tease Keith, the fact is the reality is that you're a very visible face and if somebody has been following you on Twitter and finally gets a chance to meet you and say a few words to you, it's easy to imagine them sort of losing some filters along the way. Keith: 17:37 People feel like they know you in and there's nothing wrong. They mass share a lot of my life, uh, you know, end the public. So, you know, a lot of people are going on this journey with me and wife. So, you know, when they see Melissa, uh, if she makes it to VMWorld, when they see her, there's going to be like this automatic feeling that they know them. You know, we don't have any women on the podcast today, and maybe it's a good topic for future podcasts. You know, we get, um, Melissa or some of the wives on to talk about their experiences in the community and around the community. But, uh, you know, I absolutely have been in those situations. I, I'm in that situation sometimes when I walk up to a, somebody who I've been following them on Twitter for years, I'm like, "Oh, Larry, don't... Wait. How do, how do you not know me?" Like I'm certainme and Michael Dale are like best friends, right? Security felt otherwise the first time I tried... Leon: 18:36 Right? Right. Exactly. So, so there's all those pressures. Leon: 18:40 We know you can't listen to our podcast all day. So out of respect for your time, we've broken this particular conversation up. Come back next week and we'll continue our conversation. Destiny: 18:49 Thanks for making time for us this week. To hear more of Technically Religious visit our website, https://www.technicallyreligious.com where you can find our other episodes, leave us ideas for future discussions and connect to us on social media. Leon: 19:03 Hey, there's this great convention happening next week in Cleveland who's in? Everyone: 19:06 (a lot of nope)  

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Jim & Pat's Glasgow West End Chat, Episode 14: Michael Dale, Director of Glasgow West End Festival: From Egypt to Glasgow via London's Old Vic In this episode Jim chats with Michael Dale, the Director of the West End Festival. Michael tells us about his early adventures booking Pink Floyd and Fairport Cenvention for St Andrew's University Film & Music Festival - a formative experience, which prepared him to later run the word's largest Arts Festival, The Edinburgh Festival Fringe. Along the way Michael has met a Woolworth's mixture sized bag of the famous and the good – including Cliff Richard, Tom Paxton, Margo MacDonald and many many more. For the last 24 years Michael has been running the Glasgow West End Festival while putting on numerous other festivals along the way includng The River Festival and previously the Glasgow Garden Festival and the European Special Olympics. Sit back and listen as Michael tells us about his fascinating journey. Anything I write in this intro couldn't tell you the half of it. This years West End Festival starts on Thursday 31st of May and continues thru Sat 30th June 2018. Links Pat's Guide To Glasgow West End The West End Festival   Music by Jim Byrne Photo @ Jim Byrne  

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