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Collecting Cognition with Steve Sloman - 75th Conversation

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 1, 2024 48:53


Cognitive scientist and psychologist Professor Steve Sloman of Brown University (

Manon Revel: Is Democracy a Comma in History? - 74th Conversation

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 23, 2024 61:50


Martha White: Sparse is Rich - 73rd Conversation

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 2, 2024 56:10


Martha White, associate professor of Computing Science at University of Alberta (

Rich Sutton Brings Reinforcements - 72nd Conversation

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 31, 2023 54:48


The Living Computation Theory of Everything - 71st Conversation

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 28, 2023 79:33


Michael interviews Dave about his recent video (YouTube) on a 'theory of everything'. The conversation begins with Michael praising Dave for finally doing some theory, and descends from there.

Oren Etzioni All Over - 70th Conversation

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 22, 2023 53:23


Oren Etzioni, founding CEO of the Allen Institute for Artificial Intelligence and Professor Emeritus of Computer Science at University of Washington, (

Beautiful Messiness with Jonathan Frankle - 69th Conversation

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 2, 2023 58:34


Jonathan Frankle, the new Chief Scientist - Neural Networks at Databricks (

Love Hate Writing - 68th Conversation

Play Episode Listen Later Jul 2, 2023 60:12


Michael and Dave talk about their love and hate relationships with writing, in the context of Dave's foray into publishing "Companionate Caring" and Michael's upcoming MIT Press book "Code to Joy".   (This conversation is Part 2 of Where The Hell Have Michael & Dave Been?)

Busy Busy / Let's Blame AI - 67th Conversation

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 8, 2023 63:09


Michael and Dave catch up on where the hell they've been for the last couple months. (Mostly it's about busy, but Dave wants to blame everything on AI.)

Michael Levin TAMEs Life - 66th Conversation

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 5, 2023 63:27


The Understandable Cynthia Rudin - 65th Conversation

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 18, 2023 51:38


Cynthia Rudin, the Earl D. McLean, Jr. Professor of Computer Science, Electrical and Computer Engineering, Statistical Science, Mathematics,and Biostatistics & Bioinformatics at Duke University (

Vukosi Marivate: Deep Learning Africa - 64th Conversation

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 8, 2023 55:55


Vukosi Marivate, Associate Professor of Computer Science and ABSA UP Chair of Data Science at the University of Pretoria (

Andrew Davison's grand SLAM - 63rd Conversation

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 5, 2022 49:03


John Twelve Hawks - 62nd Conversation

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 2, 2022 48:45


Reclusive New York Times best-selling author John Twelve Hawks (

Peter Norvig: AI Then And Now - 61st Conversation

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 5, 2022 50:53


Minds, Brains, & Morals with Oriel FeldmanHall - 60th Conversation

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 1, 2022 53:37


Oriel FeldmanHall, Brown University assistant professor and director of the Social and Affective Neuroscience Lab (

Agency IoT Loyalty - 59th Conversation

Play Episode Listen Later Jul 1, 2022 62:35


Michael and Dave tackle the big questions and settle two of them: Is Agency A Zero Sum Game? Why Do (Internet of) Things Suck? How Can We Turn Computation Away From Centralization? [Image of ancient Philips Hue Controller operating without internet access, used by permission of Dave the owner]

Ellie Pavlick: As Artificial Intelligence Meets Natural Language - 57th Conversation

Play Episode Listen Later May 1, 2022 52:02


Andrew Critch on AI - 56th Conversation

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 2, 2022 52:53


Andrew Critch (

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What is the Self Image? - 55th Conversation

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 2, 2022 55:52


Dave tries to explain why he thinks the best way to understand people and other living things is via computation and programming languages, via codebases and code transmissions. Michael tries to help Dave sound slightly sane. [Image based on still frame from "We Are Coders"]

Bad Ideas and Dangerous Thoughts with Fiery Cushman - 54th Conversation

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 7, 2022 53:26


Fiery Cushman @fierycushman, professor of psychology at Harvard University

Neil Lawrence All Over the Map - 53rd Conversation

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 1, 2022 61:27


Neil Lawrence (home, @lawrennd), the DeepMind Professor of Machine Learning at the University of Cambridge, joins Michael and Dave for a rollicking hour discussing everything from cybernetics to machine learning, from oil rigs to New Jersey shopping malls, from inconsistent scientific reviewing to gods and robots and much more. Talking Machines podcast [Image courtesy of Neil Lawrence]  

Carla Brodley: From Machine Learning to Inclusive Computing - 52nd Conversation

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 4, 2021 48:18


Carla Brodley, professor and Dean of Inclusive Computing at Northeastern University (link), talks to Michael and Dave about applying Machine Learning to real problems from computer security to medicine, and how to move the needle for diversity, equity, access, and belonging in Computer Science education. [Title image courtesy of Carla Brodley]

Karen Levy Keeps On Trucking - 51st Conversation

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 1, 2021 55:23


Karen Levy, assistant professor in Information Science at Cornell University, joins Michael and Dave in a conversation ranging from AI, law, and smart contracts to CB radio, Road Dog Trucking, and Santa's narcs.

Anita Nikolich: From Three Letter Agency to AI Security - 50th Conversation

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 2, 2021 51:29


Anita Nikolich, Director of Research and Technology Innovation at the University of Illinois School of Information Sciences (webpage), joins Michael and Dave in a conversation ranging over decades and disciplines, from computer network security and the DEFCON hacker conferences to creating games for teaching about mis- and dis-information. [Title image courtesy of Anita Nikolich]

More than Games with Michael Bowling - 49th Conversation

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 6, 2021 75:09


Michael Bowling, professor of Computer Science at the University of Alberta, talks with Michael and Dave about robots playing robots at soccer, and how a computer program beat professional poker players at heads-up no-limit Texas Hold'em, and what it all means. [Image courtesy of Michael Bowling]

The Embodied George Konidaris - 48th Conversation

Play Episode Listen Later Jul 5, 2021 59:06


Michael and Dave talk to George Konidaris, assistant professor and director of the Intelligent Robot Lab at Brown University, about building generally intelligent robots, or anyway trying, and the importance of both embodiment and abstraction in artificial intelligence. [Title image courtesy of George Konidaris]

Mike Lesk: Data Scientist OG - 47th Conversation

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 5, 2021 56:36


Rutgers Professor Michael Lesk talks to Michael and Dave about everything from computing and information retrieval in the 1960s, to railroad signaling and recognizing giraffes, to the difference between astronomers and computer scientists, to Colonial Pipeline and the real AI challenge.   [Title image courtesy of Mike Lesk]

Closing Triangles with Tina Eliassi-Rad - 46th Conversation

Play Episode Listen Later May 1, 2021 53:52


Professor Tina Eliassi-Rad of Northeastern's Network Science Institute talks with Michael and Dave about topics ranging from graph structures and machine learning to AI ethics and the nature of democracy. [Title image courtesy of Tina Eliassi-Rad]

Glum About Tech - 45th Conversation

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 2, 2021 46:01


Dave is feeling glum about technology -- and by extension about the impacts of computer science, the exploitation of science in general, and the hope for sustainability and truth in society. Michael helps sort it all out.

Computing Penguins with Heather Lynch - 44th Conversation

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 1, 2021 51:30


Michael and Dave talk to Heather J. Lynch, Associate Professor of Ecology and Evolution at Stony Brook University, about awards and leaving physics, about saving penguins and the planet, and more.

Heather Lane Beyond Academia - 43rd Conversation

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 2, 2021 56:30


Heather Lane, machine learning researcher and senior architect at athenahealth, joins Dave and Michael in a talk of many things, of the thermodynamics of life, of the US healthcare industry and life after academia, of coming out as transgender.

Fil Menczer: From Artificial Life To Social Bots - 42nd Conversation

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 1, 2020 61:10


Fil Menczer, professor and director of the Observatory on Social Media at Indiana University, joined Michael and Dave on the day after the 2020 USA presidential election. Fil revealed how his 1990s Artificial Life research set the stage for his current work, focusing not just on the facts of disinformation and hoaxes and conspiracy theories and social bots, but also how to identify and fight them. [Title image based on photograph licensed CC BY-SA 3.0 by Tracey Theriault]

Jeff Bigham: Humanizing AI - 41st Conversation

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 1, 2020 50:42


Jeff Bigham, an Associate Professor at Carnegie-Mellon's Human-Computer Interaction Institute, joins Michael and Dave in a wide-ranging discussion of human-computer interactions, AI threats and opportunities, and systems and organizations made of both computers and humans. [Episode transcript (PDF)] [Cover photo courtesy of Jeff Bigham]

The Reward Function and the Structure of Meaning - 40th conversation

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 6, 2020 42:45


Michael and Dave discuss the meaning of the reward function, and its consequences for AI and human society.

Entering Hyperspace - 39th Conversation

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 6, 2020 44:47


Dave tries to explain his "We are coders" approach to cognition to Michael, as part of developing the second lecture in the "Introduction to Classical Hyperspace" series. First lecture

Channeling Hari Seldon for Safer and Fairer AI - Computing Up 38th Conversation

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 1, 2020 60:32


Computer scientists Emma Brunskill of Stanford and Phil Thomas of UMass Amherst join Michael and Dave in a four-way discussion of safety and fairness in AI and machine learning. [The primary paper discussed, Preventing undesirable behavior of intelligent machines, is by Philip S. Thomas, Bruno Castro da Silva, Andrew G. Barto, Stephen Giguere, Yuriy Brun, and Emma Brunskill, and can be accessed for free via paper in Science ]

Jenna Burrell Has Some Thoughts - Computing Up 37th Conversation

Play Episode Listen Later Jul 6, 2020 54:18


Michael and Dave talk with UC Berkeley sociologist Jenna Burrell about topics ranging from algorithmic fairness and transparency, to anthropology and epistemology, to viral tweets and why small is beautiful. [Title image courtesy of Jenna Burrell]

Cranky About Theory - Computing Up 36th conversation

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 7, 2020 44:02


Dave hates theory.  Michael disagrees.

Catching up with Peter Winkler - Computing Up 35th conversation

Play Episode Listen Later May 3, 2020 41:41


Michael and Dave talk with mathematician, computer scientist, and puzzle maker Peter Winkler, about topics ranging from randomness to free will, and combinatorics to Sleeping Beauty, and John Horton Conway to Erdős number 1. And don't miss the bonus puzzle! Conway's (first) Princeton Lecture [Title photo courtesy of Peter Winkler]

Artificial Death - Computing Up 34th Conversation

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 1, 2020 38:54


Michael and Dave talk about pandemic models and simulation journalism, programming languages, and what people really want. Washington Post's simulator is here

The Multilevel Michael Frank - Computing Up 33rd Conversation

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 1, 2020 55:36


Michael and Dave talk to Brown University neuroscientist Michael J Frank about topics from brains and minds, to engineering and machine learning, to dopamine and Parkinson's disease and New Age woo.

Melanie Moses Scales Up - Computing Up 32nd Conversation

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 1, 2020 54:50


Computer scientist and biologist Melanie Moses joins Michael and Dave in a conversation ranging from biology nerds vs computing nerds to the future of justice in the United States, with a whole lot of scaling along the way.

Michael Carbin Computes the Winning Ticket & More - Computing Up 31st Conversation

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 31, 2019 48:07


Michael Carbin, Assistant Professor of Electrical Engineering and Computer Science at MIT, joins Michael and Dave to discuss neural net lottery tickets, computing with uncertainty and more. [Cover photo courtesy of Michael Carbin]

Zander Furnas on Politics as Computation - Computing Up Thirtieth Conversation

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 30, 2019 44:27


Zander Furnas helps Dave get a clue about political science, in theory and in practice -- from authoritarianism to democracy, and from Congressional staffer's incentives to Elizabeth Warren's plan for lobbyists, and whether there's hope for society after all. [Background image by www.GAUPERphoto.com used by permission of Zander Furnas]

Living Computation and Society - Computing Up Twenty-Ninth Conversation

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 2, 2019 39:52


Dave and Michael revisit the meaning of life (the subject of the second Computing Up conversation) in the context of politics and society and human destiny. [Photo by Jeffrey Lee on Unsplash]

Theories of Theories of Everything - Computing Up Twenty-Eighth Conversation

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 30, 2019 35:57


Inspired by a WIRED profile of Karl Friston, Dave and Michael talk about theories of everything, and theories thereof. [WIRED Article: https://www.wired.com/story/karl-friston-free-energy-principle-artificial-intelligence/ ]

Brian Christian's Algorithms - Computing Up Twenty-Seventh Conversation

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 31, 2019 47:10


Author Brian Christian talks about "Algorithms to Live By", and computing writ large, with Michael and Dave. [Cover photo by Michael Langan courtesy of Brian Christian]

Technologies more true: Glen Weyl is recomputing democracy - Computing Up Twenty-Sixth Conversation

Play Episode Listen Later Jul 27, 2019 48:59


Glen Weyl joins Michael and Dave to talk about democracy, mechanism design, quadratic finance, blockchain, and the RadicalXChange. [Image courtesy of Gley Weyl]

Is Progress Real? - Computing Up Twenty-Fifth Conversation

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 30, 2019 38:36


Democratic debates and Dave darkness raise the question of whether progress is even possible.

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